The Most Misunderstood Porsche? The 911 996 Turbo S | Raj's Garage
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
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Our October addition to the CAS fleet is this limited edition RHD Porsche 996 Turbo S with the all important manual gearbox. The 996 rewrote the script for the 911, with the most significant change being a water-cooled engine replacing the previously air-cooled engine. Plus that controversial 'fried-egg' front re-design of the lights definitely split opinions!
In this episode, Raj introduces the new car to the channel as well providing a little history lesson and the reasons behind the redesign. Let us know in the comments what you think of this new car and also Raj's cooking skills!
Link to the previous episode for this car which includes the pre-purchase appraisal carried out by Paul of Northway Porsche Limited: • Porsche 996 Turbo S - ...
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I haven’t seen a 993 turbo next to a 996 turbo for a while… boy do I love the 996 more than a 993🖤
after owning an 85 g-body for years and always salivating over the 993 sleekness by comparison i semi-begrudgingly got into an '02 turbo, wooed by the performance but always with a wishful softspot for the 993. Now seeing them side by side, as you point out, i'm having a rethink. The 996 is waaaaay sexier..... ruclips.net/video/o1voHMU3KD0/видео.htmlsi=z42k7GENdcewVA30&t=469
The 996 turbo and 4S will become the most wanted 911's in 10 years! (next to the gt2 and gt3 off course)
The mk2 "egg" headlights are NOT ugly 🙂
First water-cooled and first real drivable 911. Buy now, have the fun of your live and never loose money on it!
I love 996 mk2 Porsches!
(as a 996 targa owner maybe a bit biased...)
People always fussed about the fried egg headlights but they should really differentiate them. There are two versions. The first ones that came out with the regular 996 and this Turbo version, which was later added onto the non turbo cars as well. The early cars' headlights are what I really don't like. That is the real fried egg version because of the orange part for the turning signal. The Turbo version actually looked so much better. As the years go by, it's looking even more beautiful. At 5:47 the 996 Turbo actually looked more aggressive than the 993.
We totally agree with your comments and prefer the ‘softer’ Gen2 996 lights - thanks for watching and the feedback 👍🏽
I’ve never considered the second gen 996 lights as the fried egg headlights only the V1s
I have a 2002 996 Turbo with X50 pack - basically the same car without the ceramic brakes. Moved up from a 1986 3.2 Carrera Supersport (turbo body), so quite a change. As you say, it can be used everyday. Drives happily off boost and is very docile. On boost it turns into a completely different car with eye-widening acceleration - love it.
As a bit of history the car was designed by Pinky Lai who previously designed the BMW E36 (And it is surprising how many people have owned both E36 and 996 cars!) Also the main reason for the much maligned headlights was that the 993 was hideously expensive to build so Porsche got Toyota involved to try and “Productionise” the design. One of Toyota’s suggestions was rather than fit 2 headlights, 2 indicator lights and 2 fog lights to every car if instead all lights were built into single units (Which can be fitted into the car in seconds) then Porsche could shave time and money off the building of the car, an important factor given the common parts across the build of both 996 and 986.
Regards upgrades? Given its task as a daily driver I’d suggest the fitting of the Porsche PCM (Or any double din) but I hardly need to tell you guys that!
Beyond that? As others have said upgraded engine mounts (I have RSS semi solid ones) make a hue difference to the car when cornering.
Others have recommended KW though I have Ohlins those these might be a little stiff for a daily. Another highly optimised option is Centre Gravity are developing a special kit developed with Bilstein specifically for fast road use. No doubt you are aware of Centre Gravity already but their reputation in the community is second to none. Oh, and the 996 is very sensitive to good geometry and good tyres.
Love the car having had a 996 Turbo as a daily a few years ago and absolutely adored it. The vacuum assisted clutch might feel a bit “Wooden” but means that even in heavy traffic the manual box is a joy.
Finally the CAE shifter mentioned elsewhere is a work of art but might be a bit too “Racecar” for a daily. A more subtle option would be the Numerik shifter (Which is invisible when fitted) or alternatively for the “OEM plus” route I fitted the 997 GT3 factory shifter. Slightly shorter shift than you’ll have now and metal bearings for a more precision feel.
Look forward to following more on the car!
Appreciate the history feedback and also the modification suggestions 👍🏼
Thanks for the history on the design.
The intro was sick, CAS is stepping up with their videography, love it! 🔥 In my opinion, this gen 996 isn't as bad as people say, I like this headlight design over the previous gen 996. Cooking with Raj needs to come out soon, love the reference😂😂😂 Congratulations Raj, very nice daily, looking forward to see what mods you're gonna put on this. I would get a new headunit along with some coilvers.
Appreciate the feedback as always 🙌🏼
I know everyone Loves the air cooled Turbo's! But I live in Orlando Florida and when our rally group goes out on Summer Days on a Children's Benefit Rally the air cooled guys can't get enough air conditioning to work, the cars are running really HOT and they hate to run them. We are talking 95 -100 degrees in the shade when its a normal summer in Orlando. So, air cool is so very cool to have. Just not what my Porsche Club Rally guys like to drive in the summer and in Florida, its basically always Summer here. Most of our vintage guys run 996 and up. Just my opinion...
Turbo S owner here used as a daily. You got a bargain at 53k quid. Keep the HOLLOW SPOKED wheels. You now have a safer, faster, and more predictable ride. Your friends should read up on Porsche history, air cooled snobs. One of the rarest 911s out there.
As someone who has a 4S for a daily (and a 993 for the weekends), I would say first thing is Porsche's PCCM+ and one of these wireless CarPlay adapters. The guys that did mine managed to hide the USB thing to the left hand side of the glove box (but in a way you can't see it). Game changer if you are indeed going to use it as a daily. You start the car and your Waze, Google Maps, Spotify and everything connects automatically. No cables anywhere :)
The plan is to update the stereo to a new Kenwood wireless Carplay double din screen and then also upgrade the audio 👍🏼
Don't forget. That engine you have is a Mezger engine. It's LeMans derived.
Hans Mezger designed that engine. The best engine Porsche ever made.
UPGRADES:
1. CAE ULTRA shifter - Must HAVE
2. RSS Engine mounts - Must HAVE
3. RACRO Pole Positions
4. 19" (BBS) wheels
5. KW 3 Coilovers
6. Sachs clutch and light weight flywheel
7. RSS suspension kit.
8. Half role cage painted same colour as calipers
9. Braided break lines
I could go on. The first two.... Are a must though.
Same car ;) in seal grey.
Great point! The engine is mega - thanks for the feedback 👍🏽
Great Vid! Moody brothers need to put some respect on the name of the 996 turbo! Not fried eggs for a start. Love my 996 turbo. My mods: Full geo setup with Chris and Pete at Center Gravity (transforms front end), Kline exhaust 200 cell cats (bit more noise and free flowing), 997 GT3 shifter kit (not too short but reduces the long factory shift), Markski intercoolers (efficient), Markski remap...transforms an already fantastic setup from the factory and subtle too.
Thanks for watching and the feedback, we’ve just upgraded the suspension and changed the wheels. Episode drops very soon 👍🏽
Great content and awesome purchase. Love the fried egg segment at the start and the history of this particular model. I would like to see some stepped-up rims on this.
The gen 2 996 doesn’t have fried egg headlights. There’s no yoke!! I love the 996. I have a black 2004 Carrera 4 cabrio. Great fun!
you want a tune by the expert Deejay Markski. he specializes in 996TT's
Great vid. I have the same car. I have done these mods. Techart steering wheel, lighter wheels(still have the minty oem ones), Ti X pipe exhaust. Next short shifter and I think that’s it. Cheers
I have a 2002 C4S in Sydney as my daily. Couldn’t stretch to a Turbo here (stupid prices in Australia). Upgrading stereo for 2DIN wireless with nav was a game changer. Numeric short shift upgrade too (no need for you probably). These cars don’t need any major mods for daily road use, and I think will benefit long term value. Plenty of power and amazing grip levels in all weather…and they are reliable which is a must for a classic daily. Have fun.
Great video. Being a 996.2 C2 owner I am biased but I love the overall design, including the lights. I like having all the lights in the single unit rather than separate fog lights stuck somewhere in the front bumper. Very enjoyable and honest review.
Hey man!, I just jumped on this channel by chance and must say I like the effort put in the videography side of things plus I’m here because I proudly own a 997 c4S which I bought with a Hartech rebuilt engine , tan leather everywhere dash included! In a midnight ocean blue with oem staggered multi spokes rims wrapped on Bridgestone runflats , factory aero kit , Makkasar sycamore package & sports chrono plus . The 911 was a childhood dream car I would one day own and now I have one .. love it to bits! It it’s the 993 & the 1989 models was my lust over pin-up models 😅.
... at 7:28 to be precise, the spoiler on the 996 Turbo adjusts itself hydraulically. It's one of the 996TT's trouble spots as the car ages. For anyone who thinks the 993 Turbo is car perfection, I would point out its rather outdated and non-integrated interior design, which still shared elements with 20 year older cars. And whether on the outside it's more beautiful than the 996, that's personal taste, I would argue. The 993's oversized spoiler undermines its otherwise great looks.
Boxster never had those lights , they are gen2 996 Carrera C4S and Turbo only....the so called fried egg headlights were the early 996/986 cars with amber lights...which in my opinion look the best.
Don't think I'd daily it personally but if you can afford it then yes what a car.
Respectful nod in the video to the 986 and subsequent 996 that saved the day for Porsche.
Loved the display of cooking skills Raj. The car is awesome especially at the price u payed for it
Thanks for watching.. Raj is many hidden talents 😉
Glad to see you finally got one Raj! We raced our Turbo S on Carwow a few years ago. I have the Dark Olive Metallic 996 Turbo S.
Agreed that the 996 Turbo S is such a usable car. Only upgrade I've considered are light savers for the rear light mounts which tend to crack.
Appreciate the feedback - these are awesome cars and so under-rated!
Credit to the team for the cinematography. Reminds me of old school Top Gear / Clarksons motoring world. Deserve more views!
996 and 986 did help save Porsche, along with the introduction of SUV’s, but because of all the cost cutting in manufacturing and material quality, not because it was an amazing car!
996 4S and Turbo are the best looking ones though.
Great point! Appreciate the feedback
@@CarAudioSecurityUK To clarify, I looove a Turbo S, I have a 997.2 version.
Your blues brothers appear to know sweet bugger all about Porsche.
I own a 2004 911 TT Cabriolet my 3rd Porsche and my most favorite
Imagine a 996 with an aircooled engine swap
Great Wideo ..I like the UNDA BREAD reference to the Lights
I own the same car as a Cabriolet! Leave it stock with top brand tires! Unbelievable car and top performance. Old school driving experience where you drive the car and not the reverse! Enjoy it
What complications are there if one wanted to switch out the Tiptronic unit to the 6-speed manual or Hollinger sequential? Cost obviously but hacking the computer or upgraded diff. as well?
I’ve got a gen 1 cayman and my next upgrade was to be a 997 turbo but but… I don’t kno why but the 996 turbo is really really growing on me!!!
Great car. The more you drive it the more it will grow on you. That's how I feel about mine. I'm running a bit more power then standard though so probably have a bit too much fun. Will be interesting to know what audio upgrades you carry out. I'm looking to upgrade my speakers etc.
Appreciate the feedback, CarPlay and audio upgrades are imminent 👍🏽
Great video and car. Though I'm not sure whether I would have opted for a 997 Turbo instead, similar price.
👍🏽 for me, watching from state. Upgrades for me would be going with rims blacked out with brake calipers to match the red of the seat belts. Headlights hmmmm 😏 definitely have to slightly darken them to complement the black on black. 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks for watching and appreciate the feedback on the modifications👍🏼
Borderline too good to use as a daily would be my concern if I was so lucky to own. Depends how far that journey is I suppose? ULEZ compliant?
40 mile round drip every day, with a nice open run to open the car up 👍🏽. Yes, ULEZ compliant (which was a must)!
996's are soo underrated. Great cars... Objectively better than a 993 by any measurable metric. We would all want a 993 of course. Be careful with the turbo twists - on my 996 C4S the spokes aren't hollow whereas genuine 996 Turbo alloys have hollow spokes to make the unsprung mass lighter. Great purchase in any case.
Not all of them. Early 996tt had solid spokes
@@jra55417 apologies I should have specified that all 996 Turbo S’ had hollow spoke twists… apologies.
@@ineedthatcar7169 :)
Perfect daily, brilliant. I too would love to have one of these as a daily
I love both, and prefer the 993 overall, but in raw performance and capability the 996 pummels the 993. 993 wins on aesthetics, interior quality, and sound. For the money the 996 turbos are a bargain, even with the recent rise in prices.
I was from the school of thought that the polarizing Porsche SUV Cayenne is what actually saved Porsche from certain bankruptcy?
I love your 996 Raj and you got it for an excellent price.
I have always admired this model and would own one just like yours if I was in a position to do so, especially as a daily driver .
Congratulations on a great purchase mate 😊
Great cars and such good value for money!
This new editing is 🔥
Thank you 🙌🏽
I have a C2 996.2. Not a Turbo, but man, I love it. Had it for quite a while now. I would love to snag a manual Turbo though. Great vid.
Get yourself a PCCM plus from Porsche, it’s basically a new head unit with CarPlay from Porsche
Driving 996 turbo since 2014 best upgrades
Suspension
Motor / transmission mount
Computer chip to 500 hp
Only upgrade I can think of it the Porsche head unit for older Porsches, (Porsche Classic Communication Management Systems)
At 4:15 you can hear the broken egg shell hitting the pan just before the egg. 🍳 Nice mic btw. Cracking the egg on a flat surface away from the pan can prevent this.
Eggcellent episode I have always love the 996 shape your car is stunning 👍
996 was the only departure from the round headlight. Now add in The Turbo S and its ultra limited production, even more so in a manual and the Mezger engine. Just saying no place to go but up in these cars.
One can only dream of daily-ing a turbo of any generation 😅🙈 but what a daily 👌🏿 perfection.
Agree, fantastic car to daily - thanks for watching 👍🏽
996tt is an amazing machine. I’ve had one since 2014. X50 Markski tuned with bolt ons.
Love it 👍 Got to ditch those wheels though! 🤮
Yes, we feel the same way 🤣🤣
I think augment wheels would make a nice set for that thing by the way
We have just checked them out - good looking wheels and definitely one we would consider
Random question but where is the location of the intro filmed?😂
Are you going to do an audio upgrade?
Yes, CarPlay upgrade first and then a complete audio overhaul
The intro 🔥🔥
I love those headlights 🖤
Stunning car glad you bought it
Thanks 👍
These look great slightly lower on BBS Le mans alloys
The 996 turbo lights were called 'crying eyes' the gen1 996 and boxtser were 'fried eggs' ..... fantastic car by the way!
Thanks for watching and also the feedback 👍🏽
I grown to like the 996. The 993 is a way better looking car but I was hoping you'd answer, which is the better driving car. I would find 3pc speedlines twist wheels and suspension, and sound system a must.
He literally said that the 996 Turbo S is a better driving car in every way. I can attest to this because I've also owned both.
The 996 Turbo S is a better driving car, however the 993 Turbo is definitely the better looking of the two (possibly event the best looking 911 Turbo ever manufactured)!
Seeing a 993 next to a 996 I can see why it was such a big disaster. That being said, the 996 is still a beautiful machine in its own way
Yes raj 👍👍car is perfect
thank you 🙌🏼
I absolutely love it👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
So much wrong here I’m afraid. Boxster has fried egg 996.1 lights nothing like the turbo
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Love it❤👌🙂
I hope the hate never ends or blue collar, working guys like me never would have been able to afford the car of our dreams. The "purists" may scoff at us, but we're laughing at them. We pay $10's of thousands less than our cars are worth while they pay $10's of thousands more than their actually worth...
I LOVE my runny eggs and literally everything about my car...
Let those beemer guys drive it. They’ll eat crow…
Less Breakfast more cars please.
Nice ride, insufferable critics.
I love porsche 😍😍
Disagree the best 911 turbo is the 997.
The intro 🔥🔥
The intro 🔥🔥