Makes a ton of sense! Getting my eyes opened after 30+ years of struggling with the modern golf swing and instruction. So excited about this as I try to ingrain the positions. Thanks Todd!
Just FYI. I’ve been a single planer for 10 months (ish. Allowing for multiple lockdowns etc). It’s only been this year (March) that I really worked on it. Last week I shot 35 (front nine, Letchworth GC. England). This is 7 under par to my handicap. I’m hitting it further but far more importantly, straighter than ever before. At 58 and a12.5 handicap I want to thank you for the instruction. BTW, I’m still shite out of the bunkers (even having bought a Sandy Andy). Fortunately, as I’m hitting it straighter I’m rarely in a bunker. But I’ll work on it. Thanks Graves Golf. And thanks Moe 🏌️♂️
Todd, love your instruction. I recommend your channel to anyone who will listen. I am a 62 year old 7 HDCP. Been playing for nearly 50 years. Never had a lesson, except for the school of hard knocks on the course. Shot my all time low score of 66 eighteen months ago. Then I discovered your channel. Am in the process of changing over to the single plane. Just wanted to say thanks to you and Moe.
Todd, bought the book and watched half of your videos. I can not thank you enough! You have made golf fun again! I was doing a single plain golf swing that I came up with, but it was all arms. I also didn’t cock my wrists at the the top of my swing. As you could imagine I lost a lot of distance but kept it fairly accurate. You had the final piece to my swing and added 60 yards of distance to my driver.
We are lucky to have a guy that knew how to pick Moe’s brain. I wish I had known Moe 55 years ago. Never too late to try something different if it works. You have a wealth of knowledge Todd, watching all your videos and hitting balls. Would love to make it to Ok. To have a few lesson. After playing 55 years with a two plane swing, the one plane is a lot easier to learn. I can hit the ball harder now by keeping that right foot down and also straighter. ( I always fought coming over the top.)
Thanks Todd. Great foundational stuff here. I attended my first 1-day Single Plane Experience school earlier this month in Maryland. Working on my SPS swing, short game and putting every day. It's slowly happening, coming around, improving every day. Played a round yesterday. Hit 1 bad driver off the tee, out of 14 driver holes. Chipping was the best it's ever been. Had several birdie putts under 10 feet. It's all due to the SPS and getting my swing closer to The Model day by day. Long way to go, but it is truly a great feeling -- thanks again, Todd!
Hey Todd really enjoy your videos. Biggest change to my swing and rotation was a tip I heard from Moe a week ago. I’ve been struggling for 8 years with getting my weight into my lead side and rotation, I couldn’t understand how to use the ground and catch my weight in my lead side until I heard Moe say “you gotta keep your front knee flexed”. I tried it and it has made the biggest impact as far as power, accuracy, and consistency of anything I’ve ever done with my swing before. I can feel the ground now with my feet and am finally using it to push off of, forever I’ve been straightening my lead knee while trying to transfer my weight and it had me stuck and flipping my arms through the hitting zone. Now my legs and leading and rotation is 100x better. I know Moe talked and thought that he didn’t rotate, but clearly he had great hip rotation. I’m not a single plane guy but there so much useful information in Moe it’s crazy. Just wanted to ask you if you’d ever make a video about what Moe would do with buried lies in bunkers? In fact everything he thought about bunker play would be amazing. I know some videos exist of him somewhere but would you ever make an in depth one? Thanks man keep up the great work.
Great stuff. Had 5 of 6 positions working yesterday after a rest 14 years of no Moe Swing and a couple off days of tips... at about 105ml/hr Except the Bent Lead leg... And hense the slight strain in the back. Ha ha. I thought, wow, after hitting balls, this seemed a bit exhaustive on the body... So at high speed (and any speed) right foot down was key, and, braced lead knee is required also to save technique shots and the body. Great content, Todd. 6 Positions model is so excellent (and driver foot alignment - closed). Yesterday's session felt like a Mechanic working on known positions. To be continued
Thanks Todd. Just got the fitted clubs. Huge help. I don’t think I have ever seen you make a video where you talk about teeing up with irons for shorter holes or fairway woods. Thank you
Todd, The last point about always reverting back to the model cannot be overstated and NEVER trying to ‘self-correct’. In systems thinking, making adjustments based on the last one or two outcomes is called ‘tampering’ and actually increases variability, decreases consistency, and makes outcomes worse. Going right back to the model is the fastest way to get back on track. I’ve found it works every time. Great stuff and can’t be emphasized enough!
My wife and I just returned from a golf trip in South Carolina, we played five rounds and I played the most consistent in years thanks to the single plane golf swing and your instruction, thank you Todd. Don’t get me wrong, I had the occasional hook into the tree line but I was able to walk away with no worse than a bogey on those holes and I have eliminated the right side miss! I’m a true believer of staying with the model and NOT self-correcting on the course, I didn’t panic and really tried to focus on the fundamentals of the single plan golf swing and it saved me.
While I admittedly still need more work, I can't express how big of a deal your #5 is in this video. KNOWING the SPS works is very reassuring on the course when you hit a rough stretch. Hit it right or left, top it, chunk it? Now instead of overcompensating to correct something I didn't really understand in the first place, I KNOW what the model is and can just try to re-set and go back to it. Great stuff as always.
Bought your book and training aids , drilled all Wyoming winter . 50 swings or until I was frozen. First time at the range hitting balls remembering your " rules " . Great stuff.
I would like to thank you for all the hard work you put in to show us the golf swing I been playing with this swing and what a difference in my golf game thank you again
How true? I fall into the self-correct school of wrong thinking and it leads to inconsistent golf with poor scores & less enjoyment. Learn the OPS model, practice the OPS model, play the OPS model, makes sense. Enlightening! Thanks Todd
@@ToddGravesGolf Thanks for replying Todd. I understand and agree to the benefits gained from using Training Aids. I’d like to purchase a RH-ABT but the freight costs + Import Tax from the USA to Melbourne, Australia are prohibitive. Do you have a retailer in Australia or a purchase solution? I look forward to receiving your reply🏌🏻♂️👍
Hi Todd, I have been trying to change over to Moe’s single plan swing. I am 67 years old on disability ,and restricted budget. I barely afford playing once or twice a month, but still want to gain some of the distance I lost. I can’t afford your school, but trying to learn from the videos. I have your booklet on the swing. I still have trouble with setting up right and hitting far ,but when I hit it right if does feel good and goes straight!
My ball striking is improving with every round now. It's such a great feeling! I'm not even going to complain about how awful my short game is at the moment 😂
@@ToddGravesGolf then there was yesterday! The worst I have hit the ball in a long time. I think I was over-rotating but need to get onto the practice ground and get back to basics. What a game!
This point may not mean anything but in the reply to question 1 there is a lot of reference to arm rotation or hand rotation. Technically you cannot rotate your hand. At least independently. Your hand is fused to your arm so it only rotates when your arm rotates. I only bring this up if there is question about what is actually rotating . Once again,a very great video Todd. The way you explain things makes the swing motion so much easier to understand. Thanks again.
That's what's awesome about this swing. You don't have to worry about anything complicated as things happen naturally with it. You've just got to nail the address position, guard against pelvis shift and then do the broomstick drill and your away !
Lots of great tips in there! I'd like to hear you talk about the right forearm cups at address, like Ben Hogan said the Forearm cups had to aim out towards the sky? I recently started rotating my right forearm cup clockwise to the right and all of a sudden everything started clicking in the single plane swing for me.
Amazing timing and great video; am driving to the range as this is playing; (I know!!) about once a year swing totally goes haywire as i become anal working on minutia and stuff I should be long over!! Still working on that transition but this video reinforces just stick to the model and some tapes you reviewed of my swing many many years ago; the info is still there and really has not changed
Single plane has made my ball striking much more consistent. I will be in the market for new clubs soon and I am wondering if a set of single length clubs is compatible with the single plane swing
My question is about ball position. I know how important setup is to my consistency. Where should the ball be for fairway woods and hybrids. The setup board had DBP and IBP.
After almost 30 years of golfing, I am going to try and transition to a single plane swing this season. I haven’t been able to hit any balls yet, just practice swings trying to get the feel and keeping my lower body in a stable position. So far I think I am getting the hang of it all, but I am feeling tension in my right knee. (I am right handed). My old way of swinging, my right foot comes off the ground much earlier than the new way. when I am “rolling” my right ankle trying to keep it planted longer, I am getting some tension in my right knee. Just wondering if this is normal, for any of the others out there making the moe normal switch.
What about standing up in backswing; seems to be my nemesis for over 20 years; I imagine it’s lack of rotation or too much rotation; once I stand up I imagine rest of that swing is doomed?!
Todd, do you think that right side bend will be changing throughout the dynamic motion of the swing? For instance: if you started at say 16 degrees of right side bend at address, as you complete your backswing, you might be in 16 degrees of left side bend, (32 degree change) and then at impact you are in 20 degrees of right side bend. (36 degree change from top of backswing)?
@@ToddGravesGolf so even if you start in side bend, wouldn’t you come out of right side bend(rh golfer) in the backswing and then have to get back into right side bend on the way down?
@@jeffcaminiti162 Good question. Yes, however, the sidebend establishes the position of the body and spacing from the ball. The sidebend allows the alignment of the club with the lead arm and trail arm. This establishes the most efficient position to start and makes the swing and impact easier.
@4:10 Would you say you and Moe have the crease of your elbows pointed as inwards as possible? I don't mean actually fully pointed inward, just as inward as possible to prevent the lead hand from turning too far left, and the right wrist from turning too far right? I've found these limits and opposing forces together can really help keep the clubface consistent and on plane. But, it's often difficult to tell if you or Moe are doing something similar because of your long sleeves :)
position trainer ? 100 bucks is 100 bucks for a 33 inch piece of neatly painted wood . what I can't find is any reviews on this trainer that will help me to decide if this product is worth my hard earned retirement money . I think I know what Todd will say but I need to know from folks who actually bought and use the item . Any reviews out there ? where can I find them ?
I’ve had one for 5+ years. It’s great if your going to follow the swing system. If your going to vacillate between Moes swing and other stuff on RUclips, save your money.
The SPS works if you are serious about wanting to improve. Once you decide that, as I did, the SP alignment trainer is critical to developing (and maintaining) your progress. I still use it at the range every time as a check because it can be easy to revert to bad habits. It was definitely worth it if you are serious about improving.
They certainly didnt make this to help people and just earn a little bit from. This was absolutely to make as much money as possible for them. A bit sad really because if Todd and his brother were really interested in more people taking up and spreading the word about Moes swing, they would of made it a reasonable price. I used to be in manufacturing and I can tell you now, each one of those would cost about 5-8$ to make.
Some day you started simple. Now these days, you make it so complicated that people need you to get it. money money. Let me tell you people, there is no concept for golf.
Makes a ton of sense! Getting my eyes opened after 30+ years of struggling with the modern golf swing and instruction. So excited about this as I try to ingrain the positions. Thanks Todd!
Just FYI. I’ve been a single planer for 10 months (ish. Allowing for multiple lockdowns etc). It’s only been this year (March) that I really worked on it. Last week I shot 35 (front nine, Letchworth GC. England). This is 7 under par to my handicap. I’m hitting it further but far more importantly, straighter than ever before. At 58 and a12.5 handicap I want to thank you for the instruction. BTW, I’m still shite out of the bunkers (even having bought a Sandy Andy). Fortunately, as I’m hitting it straighter I’m rarely in a bunker. But I’ll work on it.
Thanks Graves Golf. And thanks Moe 🏌️♂️
Todd, love your instruction. I recommend your channel to anyone who will listen. I am a 62 year old 7 HDCP. Been playing for nearly 50 years. Never had a lesson, except for the school of hard knocks on the course. Shot my all time low score of 66 eighteen months ago. Then I discovered your channel. Am in the process of changing over to the single plane. Just wanted to say thanks to you and Moe.
Todd, bought the book and watched half of your videos. I can not thank you enough! You have made golf fun again! I was doing a single plain golf swing that I came up with, but it was all arms. I also didn’t cock my wrists at the the top of my swing. As you could imagine I lost a lot of distance but kept it fairly accurate. You had the final piece to my swing and added 60 yards of distance to my driver.
We are lucky to have a guy that knew how to pick Moe’s brain. I wish I had known Moe 55 years ago. Never too late to try something different if it works. You have a wealth of knowledge Todd, watching all your videos and hitting balls. Would love to make it to Ok. To have a few lesson. After playing 55 years with a two plane swing, the one plane is a lot easier to learn. I can hit the ball harder now by keeping that right foot down and also straighter. ( I always fought coming over the top.)
Thanks Todd. Great foundational stuff here.
I attended my first 1-day Single Plane Experience school earlier this month in Maryland. Working on my SPS swing, short game and putting every day. It's slowly happening, coming around, improving every day.
Played a round yesterday. Hit 1 bad driver off the tee, out of 14 driver holes. Chipping was the best it's ever been. Had several birdie putts under 10 feet. It's all due to the SPS and getting my swing closer to The Model day by day. Long way to go, but it is truly a great feeling -- thanks again, Todd!
Hey Todd really enjoy your videos. Biggest change to my swing and rotation was a tip I heard from Moe a week ago. I’ve been struggling for 8 years with getting my weight into my lead side and rotation, I couldn’t understand how to use the ground and catch my weight in my lead side until I heard Moe say “you gotta keep your front knee flexed”. I tried it and it has made the biggest impact as far as power, accuracy, and consistency of anything I’ve ever done with my swing before. I can feel the ground now with my feet and am finally using it to push off of, forever I’ve been straightening my lead knee while trying to transfer my weight and it had me stuck and flipping my arms through the hitting zone. Now my legs and leading and rotation is 100x better. I know Moe talked and thought that he didn’t rotate, but clearly he had great hip rotation. I’m not a single plane guy but there so much useful information in Moe it’s crazy. Just wanted to ask you if you’d ever make a video about what Moe would do with buried lies in bunkers? In fact everything he thought about bunker play would be amazing. I know some videos exist of him somewhere but would you ever make an in depth one? Thanks man keep up the great work.
Great stuff.
Had 5 of 6 positions working yesterday after a rest 14 years of no Moe Swing and a couple off days of tips... at about 105ml/hr Except the Bent Lead leg... And hense the slight strain in the back. Ha ha. I thought, wow, after hitting balls, this seemed a bit exhaustive on the body...
So at high speed (and any speed) right foot down was key, and, braced lead knee is required also to save technique shots and the body.
Great content, Todd. 6 Positions model is so excellent (and driver foot alignment - closed).
Yesterday's session felt like a Mechanic working on known positions. To be continued
I'm a high school teacher. I'm learning from you how to be a better one. Well done! GOD Bless!
Glad to help!
Thanks Todd. Just got the fitted clubs. Huge help. I don’t think I have ever seen you make a video where you talk about teeing up with irons for shorter holes or fairway woods. Thank you
Todd,
The last point about always reverting back to the model cannot be overstated and NEVER trying to ‘self-correct’. In systems thinking, making adjustments based on the last one or two outcomes is called ‘tampering’ and actually increases variability, decreases consistency, and makes outcomes worse.
Going right back to the model is the fastest way to get back on track. I’ve found it works every time. Great stuff and can’t be emphasized enough!
My wife and I just returned from a golf trip in South Carolina, we played five rounds and I played the most consistent in years thanks to the single plane golf swing and your instruction, thank you Todd. Don’t get me wrong, I had the occasional hook into the tree line but I was able to walk away with no worse than a bogey on those holes and I have eliminated the right side miss! I’m a true believer of staying with the model and NOT self-correcting on the course, I didn’t panic and really tried to focus on the fundamentals of the single plan golf swing and it saved me.
Nice. Great job.
While I admittedly still need more work, I can't express how big of a deal your #5 is in this video. KNOWING the SPS works is very reassuring on the course when you hit a rough stretch. Hit it right or left, top it, chunk it? Now instead of overcompensating to correct something I didn't really understand in the first place, I KNOW what the model is and can just try to re-set and go back to it. Great stuff as always.
Bought your book and training aids , drilled all Wyoming winter . 50 swings or until I was frozen. First time at the range hitting balls remembering your " rules " . Great stuff.
I would like to thank you for all the hard work you put in to show us the golf swing I been playing with this swing and what a difference in my golf game thank you again
How true? I fall into the self-correct school of wrong thinking and it leads to inconsistent golf with poor scores & less enjoyment. Learn the OPS model, practice the OPS model, play the OPS model, makes sense. Enlightening! Thanks Todd
Absolutely
@@ToddGravesGolf Thanks for replying Todd. I understand and agree to the benefits gained from using Training Aids. I’d like to purchase a RH-ABT but the freight costs + Import Tax from the USA to Melbourne, Australia are prohibitive. Do you have a retailer in Australia or a purchase solution? I look forward to receiving your reply🏌🏻♂️👍
Great explanation about trail hand non rotation. It's the key to single plane.
Hi Todd, I have been trying to change over to Moe’s single plan swing. I am 67 years old on disability ,and restricted budget. I barely afford playing once or twice a month, but still want to gain some of the distance I lost. I can’t afford your school, but trying to learn from the videos. I have your booklet on the swing. I still have trouble with setting up right and hitting far ,but when I hit it right if does feel good and goes straight!
My ball striking is improving with every round now. It's such a great feeling! I'm not even going to complain about how awful my short game is at the moment 😂
Yes...short game is important.
@@ToddGravesGolf then there was yesterday! The worst I have hit the ball in a long time. I think I was over-rotating but need to get onto the practice ground and get back to basics.
What a game!
This point may not mean anything but in the reply to question 1 there is a lot of reference to arm rotation or hand rotation. Technically you cannot rotate your hand. At least independently. Your hand is fused to your arm so it only rotates when your arm rotates. I only bring this up if there is question about what is actually rotating .
Once again,a very great video Todd. The way you explain things makes the swing motion so much easier to understand. Thanks again.
Good Point about hand rotation.
Agree agree. Set up with proper tilt seems to work like magic for me. I hit it solid and don’t worry about rotation, it just happens.
That's what's awesome about this swing. You don't have to worry about anything complicated as things happen naturally with it. You've just got to nail the address position, guard against pelvis shift and then do the broomstick drill and your away !
Trying to get to Orlando this summer for a session. awesome upload.
great!
The rotation.demo is great 👍
Another Eureka moment. 👍🏾👏🏾
"...the secret is right here... it's about how you move the body." Love that Todd!
Thanks Paul
Awesome video's graves golf ⛳️ thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Lots of great tips in there! I'd like to hear you talk about the right forearm cups at address, like Ben Hogan said the Forearm cups had to aim out towards the sky? I recently started rotating my right forearm cup clockwise to the right and all of a sudden everything started clicking in the single plane swing for me.
Tons of good information here.
Amazing timing and great video; am driving to the range as this is playing; (I know!!) about once a year swing totally goes haywire as i become anal working on minutia and stuff I should be long over!! Still working on that transition but this video reinforces just stick to the model and some tapes you reviewed of my swing many many years ago; the info is still there and really has not changed
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing.
You bet
Single plane has made my ball striking much more consistent. I will be in the market for new clubs soon and I am wondering if a set of single length clubs is compatible with the single plane swing
Compatible but not necessary.
My question is about ball position. I know how important setup is to my consistency. Where should the ball be for fairway woods and hybrids. The setup board had DBP and IBP.
Good stuff!!!
Thanks!
@@ToddGravesGolf I appreciate what you are doing!
After almost 30 years of golfing, I am going to try and transition to a single plane swing this season.
I haven’t been able to hit any balls yet, just practice swings trying to get the feel and keeping my lower body in a stable position.
So far I think I am getting the hang of it all, but I am feeling tension in my right knee. (I am right handed). My old way of swinging, my right foot comes off the ground much earlier than the new way. when I am “rolling” my right ankle trying to keep it planted longer, I am getting some tension in my right knee.
Just wondering if this is normal, for any of the others out there making the moe normal switch.
Todd I at times am hitting the ground before the ball. What should I work on ???
What are your thoughts on single length Irons? I read that Moe used them at some point in his career, is that true?
What about standing up in backswing; seems to be my nemesis for over 20 years; I imagine it’s lack of rotation or too much rotation; once I stand up I imagine rest of that swing is doomed?!
Todd, do you think that right side bend will be changing throughout the dynamic motion of the swing? For instance: if you started at say 16 degrees of right side bend at address, as you complete your backswing, you might be in 16 degrees of left side bend, (32 degree change) and then at impact you are in 20 degrees of right side bend. (36 degree change from top of backswing)?
Yes - of course. Sidebend is both negative and positive. It changes as you move.
@@ToddGravesGolf so even if you start in side bend, wouldn’t you come out of right side bend(rh golfer) in the backswing and then have to get back into right side bend on the way down?
@@jeffcaminiti162 Good question. Yes, however, the sidebend establishes the position of the body and spacing from the ball. The sidebend allows the alignment of the club with the lead arm and trail arm. This establishes the most efficient position to start and makes the swing and impact easier.
I would love to hear about the troubles you have in your game for some perspective.
Watch the playing videos on my channel - where I’m on the course.
At address is the lead hand flexed down creating tension on the upper wrist/hand or is it more relaxed?
Just release the wrist. If there is too much tension, make sure your grip pressure comes from under the club not on top.
@@ToddGravesGolf ok. Thank you for the response.
The Boss strikes again
Where can I buy the ball and feet position Ruler?
email me at toddg@gravesgolf.com and I will send you a link for the discounted price
@4:10 Would you say you and Moe have the crease of your elbows pointed as inwards as possible? I don't mean actually fully pointed inward, just as inward as possible to prevent the lead hand from turning too far left, and the right wrist from turning too far right?
I've found these limits and opposing forces together can really help keep the clubface consistent and on plane. But, it's often difficult to tell if you or Moe are doing something similar because of your long sleeves :)
No .
@@ToddGravesGolf thanks, are the creases of the elbows pointed in any general direction toward any limit?
I try the tilt but my problem is I feel like I am turning too much on my back foot and feel out of balance, what am I doing wrong?
Watch out for pelvis shift. You can't have any lateral movement of your pelvis in the backswing
position trainer ? 100 bucks is 100 bucks for a 33 inch piece of neatly painted wood . what I can't find is any reviews on this trainer that will help me to decide if this product is worth my hard earned retirement money . I think I know what Todd will say but I need to know from folks who actually bought and use the item . Any reviews out there ? where can I find them ?
I’ve had one for 5+ years. It’s great if your going to follow the swing system. If your going to vacillate between Moes swing and other stuff on RUclips, save your money.
The SPS works if you are serious about wanting to improve. Once you decide that, as I did, the SP alignment trainer is critical to developing (and maintaining) your progress. I still use it at the range every time as a check because it can be easy to revert to bad habits. It was definitely worth it if you are serious about improving.
They certainly didnt make this to help people and just earn a little bit from.
This was absolutely to make as much money as possible for them.
A bit sad really because if Todd and his brother were really interested in more people taking up and spreading the word about Moes swing, they would of made it a reasonable price.
I used to be in manufacturing and I can tell you now, each one of those would cost about 5-8$ to make.
Todd I'm 68 ,I laugh when you talk about 300 yd.drives ,help us to hit it 225-250
u make it look too easy big t
Some day you started simple. Now these days, you make it so complicated that people need you to get it. money money. Let me tell you people, there is no concept for golf.