Lowenstein Prisma20A Vs Prisma Smart Comparison Guide

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  • @rameshm78
    @rameshm78 11 месяцев назад +11

    Hey Uncle Nicko,
    I got the Prisma 20 A based on your advice and wow what a machine it is. The sleep quality is on a totally different level as compared to the Resmed 10 that was given to me for a 4 week trial. There is a slight wheezing sound from the blower which most people can't hear. I met the technician for Lowenstein at their Brisbane service center to get it fixed. The wheezing was present in his own machine too but he hadn't noticed it till I made him switch off the room ac and listen carefully as I breathed. He finally said that there is nothing to fix in it, that's the blower revving up between breaths to provide the Soft Pap
    Amongst other things, what he very clearly told me was that there is no Bluetooth in the modem that is attached. I tried arguing with him that Uncle Nicko said there is and he said he works with these machines and neither my 3G modem, nor the 4G one he already had, has any Bluetooth chip in it.
    Another piece of news that he gave was that he was expecting a batch of the 4G modems pretty soon (possibly in a week or so). He said that as soon as he gets them, he'll send it out to all the Sleep Clinics and it is up to them regarding how to contact their Lowenstein customers and provide it to them.
    Waiting eagerly for Prisma 20A support on Sleep HQ. But if you are waiting for Bluetooth, then as far as the technician was concerned, the 20A has no Bluetooth.

  • @CPAPReviews
    @CPAPReviews  11 месяцев назад +8

    In this video, I discuss the significant differences between the Lowenstein Prisma20A and the more affordable Prisma Smart.
    The significant differences can be summarised as follows.
    1. Prisma20A has more advanced humidification with higher levels
    2. Prisma20A heated tube is powered from the CPAP and not from an external power supply
    3. Prisma20A has a Swiss Micronel Blower. The Smart has a German-made EBM Papst blower. Both are very good but the Micronel is a lot more expensive.
    4. Prisma20A has a big color touch screen (physical) and is a highlight for me. The Smart screen and menu system is not nearly as nice
    5. Prisma20A has SoftPap level 3 which reduces pressure on exhalation and provides a burst of inhalation pressure. Smart only has 1&2, which reduces the pressure on exhalation but no increase on inhalation.
    6. The Smart has Bluetooth as standard (the module is internal). The Prisma20A requires an external cellular modem + Bluetooth module
    7. Prisma20A is a 37V device, the Smart is a 24V
    Other differences i left out so not bore you to death.
    - Prisma Smart firmware updates are done OTA (over the air), and Prisma20A are done via SD card.
    - Prisma20A has an alarm clock & dimmable screen
    - Prisma20A has different language options
    - Prisma20A has a setting option for bacterial filter
    - Prisma20A has breathing displayed during operation
    - Prisma20A has micro-usb cable
    - Prisma20A has extra detailed clinical information on the device menu after operation.
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    • @rodrigoretamal3301
      @rodrigoretamal3301 10 месяцев назад

      Great additional differences Nick !!
      Finally i bought the 20A ! The softpap 3 gives an excepcional performance, goes 1 cm h2O up in inhale and goes 3 down in exhalation without any leap, very soft. I experienced leaps in the smart max model in level 2, i asked here in chile and only one another person made complaints about this. I think as i am an old cpap user and tried many machines, i can have a more fine perception. So for me , the 20a should be the nirvana cpap.

    • @badrigegenava1890
      @badrigegenava1890 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the great comparison, Nicko!
      Currently I'm renting Prisma Smart Plus (white) and considering 20A for purchasing.
      You've mentioned that Prisma 20A has extra detailed clinical information on the device menu after operation.
      Would you pls advise what exactly extra clinical info is available on 20A menu but missing on the Prisma Smart menu, and vice versa?
      I'm especially interested whether Cheyne-Stokes respiration duration is displayed DIRECTLY on 20A menu (without modem), as well as deep sleep duration.
      In the Smart Max, for instance, deep sleep is not displayed directly on the device menu, but is shown only in Prisma App after replication via bluetooth.
      Any other points of extra detailed clinical information on the 20A device menu would be of great interest as well.
      Thank you in advance )

  • @LoewensteinMedicalGlobal
    @LoewensteinMedicalGlobal 9 месяцев назад +6

    Hey Nicko,
    We are delighted that you are so enthusiastic about our products! Thank you for your great and detailed content, we really appreciate your feedback.
    Greetings from Bad Ems in Germany to Melbourne,
    Your Löwenstein Marketing Team

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  9 месяцев назад +2

      Hey team! That's very nice of you to reach out and say thanks. Really appreciate it.
      Cheers from Phillip Island, Melbourne. Home of the MotoGP and the penguin parade
      Keep up the great work with your awesome machines! Let me know when you're going to take on the USA

  • @user-qm5vw5zq6m
    @user-qm5vw5zq6m 11 месяцев назад +7

    Great review nicko. I have the Storm trooper version and love it 😍. I use the blue tooth connection to my smart phone to control the unit there by I don’t need to use the screen (albeit push button I don’t find a problem if I need to). Great to hear that it will soooon be compatible with sleep HQ🎉🎉 looking forward to the release date

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  11 месяцев назад +2

      Awesome! Thank you for sharing your experience with the device. I haven't fully checked out the app yet but heard mixed reviews. All the best. Nicko

  • @MountainDiva
    @MountainDiva 11 месяцев назад +5

    Damian is a bloody brilliant guy! Hoping for Bluetooth streaming from these machine to SleepHQ. That would be fantastic!!

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  11 месяцев назад +1

      keep your fingers crossed Kath

  • @AllenCampbell-s2w
    @AllenCampbell-s2w 6 месяцев назад +3

    Where can I purchase a Battery Cable Kit for the Prisma 20A that you showed in your comparison video?

  • @kschulz4626
    @kschulz4626 6 месяцев назад

    Love my Lowenstein! I’ve used them all, Philips, F&P, Resmed… the Lowenstein is the best on the market. I just can’t wait until you add it to your platform!

  • @minemine7902
    @minemine7902 2 месяца назад +1

    Could you please tell us how to turn off flight mode on the Prisma 20A?
    I have a little green plane that is on the screen and don't know how to turn it off.
    Could you also tell us when the G3 is turned off and where to get a new updated modem for the Prisma 20A?
    Thank you.

  • @694PDPX6R4
    @694PDPX6R4 9 месяцев назад +2

    hi yah where can you buy the cable your mate damo makes charge with the battery on the 37 volt A20 machine

  • @michaelmarchei8539
    @michaelmarchei8539 9 месяцев назад +1

    My prisma 20a came with 3G modem but not Bluetooth 🤔🤔
    Props to Damo also. Spoke to me personally and helped me out. Great customer service from Lowenatein Aus 🙏🙏

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  9 месяцев назад

      That's awesome mate, Damo is a legend. Cheers

  • @user-uc1jw5qe8l
    @user-uc1jw5qe8l 3 месяца назад

    Greetings Uncle Nicko. You are a wonderful teacher. I love watching your videos. i learn a lot each time. Kudos

  • @marcus577
    @marcus577 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have the White one. But not the attachment left of the air pipe I've just adjusted the hour because in the United Kingdom two times change in a year. Also linked my Android phone to the CPAP machine using Bluetooth. I have a complete rundown of my sleep pattern. This device of the White Lowensteinn device is supplied free by the NHS after a sleep test by the GP and the hospital.

  • @user-hi1tr4vv7c
    @user-hi1tr4vv7c 6 месяцев назад +3

    where can i buy the 37v power usb-c power adaptor i can't find the link anywhere below

    • @YongfangZhang
      @YongfangZhang 4 месяца назад

      I also want to know.

    • @sheldons231
      @sheldons231 27 дней назад

      I am sure almost everyone who has the 20A would love to get their hands on one of these!

  • @macrobinson5457
    @macrobinson5457 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’m REALLY looking forward to hooking up my Löwenstein Prisma SmartMAX to SleepHQ and with Apple Health biometric data.

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  11 месяцев назад

      Won't be long mate! Cheers

  • @rasmusstubert7523
    @rasmusstubert7523 7 месяцев назад +1

    Where can I buy the 37v to 24v adapter?

  • @moem1164
    @moem1164 9 дней назад

    I really would like to get the Prisma20A, where can i get one if I'm in the US? thank you

  • @mehmethos8599
    @mehmethos8599 11 месяцев назад

    The comparison was very useful. Thanks

  • @Throssellznest
    @Throssellznest 3 месяца назад

    i’ve got the storm trouper! ❤️ i don’t have the heated tube but it works for me! 😀

  • @poeterritory
    @poeterritory 11 месяцев назад +5

    The 20A is the best I've ever owned. The downside is that its data is very limited. As for price, it's not that far off the AS11.
    Also, great about the adapter. Was one of things I was looking for. Hopefully you'll put links for where to buy it from soonish.
    Hopefully you'll add this to Sleep HQ soon.
    Thanks.

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  11 месяцев назад +2

      Hey mate, we've done it. Got a few meetings to discuss bluetooth but it won't be long now until you have full Prisma20A data charting on SleepHQ. Cheers buddy. Nicko

    • @poeterritory
      @poeterritory 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@CPAPReviewsLooking forward to it. I'll check back for those links to the adapters, etc, from time to time.

  • @RodricWeiland
    @RodricWeiland 4 месяца назад

    @CPAPReviews Hey Uncle Nicko!
    Can you please tell me, is it possible to use these Lowenstien machines to blow air back into the hoses after washing and cleaning the hoses to help dry them like you can with the resmed machine that you did a cleaning video on?
    New subscriber here. I've learnt more about CPAP from your channel than from anywhere else. It's been very helpful. Thank you for all your efforts.

  • @xCharlus
    @xCharlus 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hello and thank you for that very complete comparison guide. Could you say anything about noise ? Are they really that much quieter than all other CIPAPs on the market ? Also, is there a (big) difference in that regard between the two ? Thank you

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  11 месяцев назад +2

      Hey, no problem. in the dead of night the noise can make a difference especially at higher pressures however at lower pressure perhaps not as important. Whenever i make a purchase i always consider how often i will be using the product. If it something i'm using every day then i'm happy to spend a little more and i think the same is true with a cpap. I think it's worth it personally. Cheers

    • @rodrigoretamal3301
      @rodrigoretamal3301 10 месяцев назад +1

      The lowenstein are by far the most quiet cpaps i ever used. For me no difference in noise between the 20A and smart plus.

  • @danbaror3248
    @danbaror3248 9 месяцев назад +2

    Interesting and useful video, but why is there no explanation of the differences between the different algorithms between the devices?

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  9 месяцев назад

      thanks. Because they have same algoirthm

  • @makear3
    @makear3 4 месяца назад

    When will the sleephq support for Lowenstein CPAP devices be available? We are awaiting it.

  • @BrettMoore66
    @BrettMoore66 11 месяцев назад

    I wish I had looked at this a few months ago. Anyhoooow. That big power unit you used to run.. pure sine you said.. What is that ?( not the sine but the battery unit ? and how long will it run for ?) I want something that will give me a good sleep despite being in a blackout. I also never use heated hoses.. hate them.

  • @DeepfriedVampire
    @DeepfriedVampire 2 месяца назад

    Is it compatitble now with sleepHQ?

  • @Marcos-SB
    @Marcos-SB 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hi Nicko What is your opinion between the Smart and the Airseense 11

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  11 месяцев назад +1

      Hmmmmm it's a great question! I don't know to be honest. I'll have to think about it. They both have different strengths so it probably depends on the end user and what they are looking for in a device.

    • @Marcos-SB
      @Marcos-SB 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@CPAPReviews Does the 20A and the smart have the same algorithm? If yes it’s a great point to consider the smart over the airssense 11

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  11 месяцев назад +3

      it does@@Marcos-SB

    • @rodrigoretamal3301
      @rodrigoretamal3301 10 месяцев назад +3

      I rented for 3 weeks the airsense 10 and my conclusión is: 20a is by far better, you feel better, resmed pressure release is very tight, resmed is more noisy and lowenstein looks better build. The cons for the lowenstein is only the weight. Airsense 11 is the same and even more noisy

  • @AshleyLevinsohn
    @AshleyLevinsohn 11 месяцев назад

    Lowenstein Prisma SMART PLUS (With Bluetooth)
    I have just spoken the help line of Lowenstein in the England, I told them I am switching from my ResMed to Prisma SMART PLUS.
    I asked if I could take out the SD card and upload it from my Windows11 computer like I do with ResMed.
    He said no problem, but I should check with the receiver if they can use the file I upload. He said I should also download the “prisma APP” and ask if it can be used, as the SMART PLUS has Bluetooth and it is uploaded to the prima APP automatically.
    My question:
    Can my weekly or daily report be uploaded through my Microsoft computer the same way as Resmed 10
    Ashley

    I bought this in Haifa Israel, on Sunday the 8th of October it was made in Hamburg sometime in July 2023.
    I will remain using my ResMed10 until I find away to upload my daily report from the Prisma APP or if not available, if possible using the Prisma SD card. I also hope with long history on the ResMed that I have uploaded, and that I joined the Pro club to learn how improve to my leakage and other settings.

  • @damian2079
    @damian2079 Месяц назад

    Cheeky bugger! Pipebomb indeed.. . Maybe I should trademark the name for all my prototypes.
    PVC pipe & heatshrink for the win though when roughing out a concept.

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  Месяц назад

      Hahaha, is this the first time you've seen this?

  • @msantos999
    @msantos999 11 месяцев назад

    Great Video. How would you compare Airsence 11 vs Prisma 20A?

  • @chrishopkin9273
    @chrishopkin9273 3 месяца назад

    Do they use the same power supply?

  • @frankpohl4377
    @frankpohl4377 11 месяцев назад

    Löwenstein comes from Hamburg my city in germany. I am not a friend of this CPAP. As I remember- the only pressure constant is the Resmed Airsence Group.

  • @PaulBiba
    @PaulBiba 11 месяцев назад +1

    Unfortunately it does not seem to be available in the US.

    • @Rampart.X
      @Rampart.X 6 месяцев назад

      Air Liquide Healthcare rebadged them under their own name. Try visiting their website to see if they import them into the US.

    • @Rampart.X
      @Rampart.X 6 месяцев назад

      Or Sleep Institute California

  • @brownnath
    @brownnath 9 месяцев назад

    G'day Mate, any update when you will be adding the Prisma 20A to Sleep HQ, joined up hoping I could manually upload data, but no go. Also cant wait for the release of the USB power adapter it will make traveling as a FIFO a lot easier.

  • @mehmethos8599
    @mehmethos8599 11 месяцев назад

    I hope Prisma Smart will be added to sleepHQ soon.

  • @clivegaunt1230
    @clivegaunt1230 11 месяцев назад

    Looking to buy a ASV machine with SleepHQ branding that you teased us about a few weeks ago .. what's the word on that ?

    • @exxr
      @exxr 11 месяцев назад

      Only Resmed, Philips and Lowenstein have ASV. None of the Chinese brands have it, including the supplier that SleepHQ are using. I'm not sure if they are working on it, maybe Nicko knows something?

  • @Rampart.X
    @Rampart.X 6 месяцев назад

    Purchased smart max today from Air Liquide $1443 incl. Philips mask and plain hose.

    • @YongfangZhang
      @YongfangZhang 6 месяцев назад

      Are you in Canada as well? Do you buy it online or in the store? Do you have insurance covered?

    • @Rampart.X
      @Rampart.X 6 месяцев назад

      @@YongfangZhang Australia. AUD. No insurance. In store but available online (but not at that price in Aust).

  • @shg1833
    @shg1833 11 месяцев назад

    Where can I get one from?

  • @johntaylor7478
    @johntaylor7478 6 месяцев назад

    Can't find this in the US.

  • @wetrock2766
    @wetrock2766 8 месяцев назад +1

    I still have heart palpitations, please, your explosion stunt got me baad!

  • @abrahamg00
    @abrahamg00 7 месяцев назад

    Is there a vendor that ships to the US?
    Would really love to purchase this machine 🙁

    • @Rampart.X
      @Rampart.X 6 месяцев назад

      Sleep institute California

  • @DanSme1
    @DanSme1 11 месяцев назад +1

    Do they allow for oxygen?

    • @CPAPReviews
      @CPAPReviews  11 месяцев назад

      Hey, you can add O2 to any CPAP device via a little adapter

  • @leticiabambini7883
    @leticiabambini7883 5 месяцев назад

    Dont know why, but we dont have this machine in Brasil

  • @JokerdanFF
    @JokerdanFF 11 месяцев назад

    Good information

  • @timkarcher6724
    @timkarcher6724 10 месяцев назад

    Can you buy a Prisma 20A in the US?

    • @Rampart.X
      @Rampart.X 6 месяцев назад

      Sleep institute California

  • @denniss1211
    @denniss1211 7 месяцев назад

    Bipap?

  • @dakinejeb7890
    @dakinejeb7890 11 месяцев назад

    Where can I buy one in the US?

    • @Rampart.X
      @Rampart.X 6 месяцев назад

      Sleep Institute California

    • @moem1164
      @moem1164 9 дней назад

      @@Rampart.X Do you know of any online distributor ?

  • @yogibear2k220
    @yogibear2k220 6 месяцев назад

    I don't get why these are so expensive when all they are are vacuum cleaners in reverse. I was given my smart for free. I would never pay £600 for one!

  • @SH3V3K_14
    @SH3V3K_14 5 месяцев назад

    Are you seriously trying to teach german people how to make things simple??? Good luck, mate! 😊