The cheetah made them not mahomes or anything else even coach. He dink n dunk because of the cheetah! Also fyi he is a WideOut! Where u get slot from!? He’s all around receiver.
He isn’t just a slot wide receiver his speed is unlike any other and opens up the entire field for everyone else including Kelce and he lines up outside a lot
Hill was just speed. He barely got open during a route, made most of his money on broken plays and cross routes. Couldn't escape even decent double teams with his moves
@@mr.castle You gotta be kidding right? Debo and davante are the only 2 really top 5 out the guys you named IMO, chase and Jefferson are still young and cupp just had a breakout season
I think he's at his best in the slot though wouldnt you say? They used him in certain ways that took advantage of his speed. He didnt just line up and run fly routes on the outside. I hope he's happy being irrelevant in Miami with a nice payday.
He was yes but at the end of 2020 and all last year 2021. Teams neutralized Hill's deep threat by using cover-2............ Chiefs were at the bottom with least amount of 20+ yard passes last year............
Lets talk Hill and the game against the Bills, remember that punt return where he got big yards but there was a flag and the chiefs and to return again? He Andy Reid did not use a rested player, Hill took the return again, broke off an even bigger return; you cant teach or coach what Tyreek does he is the formula X that makes you super
They will survive and move on. You may not replace speed factor but you got free agents and a nice draft if wr comming up. Remember they found t. Hill and k . hunt in the draft they can find them again.
Chiefs Gen Manager Veach, just pulled off a Belichick move by unloading expensive players for multiple draft picks. This is a great move and now they can get more balanced
In KC our motto is “ In Veach we Trust”! The Chiefs didn’t want to pay Hill top WR money especially for multiple years! They also thought enough of Hill to tell him to get his big payday!! As for the guy way left on this panel, You really should find a way to work with Skippy Brainless so you 2 Mahomes/Chiefs HATERS can sit around comparing notes on being HATERS of Red Kingdom! I personally can’t stand hearing either one of you 2 JERKS even mentioning the 4-time Super Bowl Champions Kansas City Chiefs!!! ❤🏈🏆🏆🏆🏆❤
No they didnt want to do what every other AFC team is doing right now and way over pay for aging talent. Hill is great but should nto be the highest paid WR, good for him getting his but better on KC for not overpaying. Hill was good before Mahomes but Mahomes made him great with the way he plays, thats why Mahomes is the one you pay. Hill will be good in Miami but if anyone thinks he will have the same greatness they are crazy, definitely not 30 mil a year greatness.
@Steven H Bro any good quarterback going to make there receivers better that's a no brainer. But you still try to find some way to keep them together these guys was on pace to be the best Duo. But it's a business league So It Is What It Is
@@Bryan-hd3xx no WR should be paid 30 million, that was the issue. Thats a huge chunk of the salary for a single player that can be completly taken out of the game with 2 decent DBs, it happened all season. Not to mention, hill has alot of drops. Good for Hill on making his money, but also good on KC for not overpaying and recognizing hiw it was going to play out in time to get great draft compensation. Now KC needs to get another good WR to pair with JuJu to make up alot of the ground they lost.
HIll is a generational talent and extremely hard to replace. I don't know if the Dolphins will be able to bring out his highest potential, but I'm 90% sure the Chiefs will regret trading him.
Marks take is really out dated... wrs play different positions and are schemed in the slot to abuse coverage. Some guys do play exclusively in the slot but Hill wasn't one of them.
@Benjamin Keating you need to learn how to recognize when someone is giving their own personal opinion vs ehn they are commenting on someone else's viewpoint. He never says at any point that HE personally does not believe Hill or slot receivers in general can be #1 receivers. He said that ORGANIZATIONS in the NFL have the viewpoint that slot receivers should not be paid like true number ones. He's commenting on how the CHEIFS view Tyreke Hill not on how HE views Tyreke Hill.
This changes the whole dynamic on how defenses will strategize against the chiefs. Sure wr's are a dime a dozen, but u are delusional if u believe that any draft pick chiefs get will have an impact on defense scheme like tyreek did. So many drafted players are complete busts and sure it's a 1st round pick but it's a late 1st. I think chiefs are much weaker now.
I’m a chiefs fan and I totally agree. The only sliver of hope I have is that the chiefs draft so well (hill, Jones, Mahomes) that maybe they will draft 2-3 players with these picks that end up being good starters.
@The BenC the definition of a SLOT receiver is a WR who plays on the slot. HILL does not play in the SLOT. He plays X, and Y. A player SIZE dont determine if they are a slot receiver dude.
He is the #1 Receiver. And a Tyreek Hill slant across the Middle has Pucker Factor 10x the next closest Player. Kelce is a Beast, but Tyreek kept the underneath wide open because the safeties had to stay back.
@@OscarUnrated As a ⚡️Chargers⚡️ Fan, it’s music to my ears Tyreek Hill have left, but I give respect where respect is due. T.Hill has been putting in work to be just labeled as a “Slot Receiver.” 🐬 have stacking up as well, so we’ll see what they do nxt szn!
@@mosmooth2421 yeah he’s a lot better than just a slot receiver, kind of like people disrespect Kupp by saying that, but there’s way too much talent in the AFC for a team quarterbacked by Tua to do anything in the playoffs. If they even make it, they haven’t been there in 7 years
Honestly have you EVER seen andy reid without an explosive offense?? Bc I haven’t, does desean jackson ring a bell? He finds and brings out the best in these guys i say tyreek just went from the baddest man on the planet to trindon holliday lol… atleast he’s getting paid tho right he’ll be back at a discount after miami releases him year after next BET!
Marcellus actually had a great point this time. They needed to evolve the passing game. However, Wiley resume his hating ways because Marcellus's last two points were completely wrong and off the mark but initially he was on point.
The price was too high, Hill was right to get his money though, and obviously the Chiefs will miss him he's an amazing player, but also I believe in Andy Reid getting the most out of the offense. I say this as an Eagles fan who saw him time and time again get the most out of an eagles offense that had Todd Pinkston as the number 1 WR.
I don’t think hill is right to get $30 million dollars. I might be bias, but I honestly think 30 million for a wideout is RIDICULOUS. That’s decent qb money. Only players that should get paid that much are decent qbs and Aaron Donald type players
No one is spooked about any other Chiefs pass catcher! Period! Patrick is going to be under assault all season!!! In the AFC West particularly! Yeah they got draft picks, but all those will be going against top tier NFL caliber talent...
@@KSU-ce2uc who doubled Kelce every play when you had two high safeties for Tyreek? At most the teams played zone and you're mistaking that for double coverage?? Without Tyreek no one's afraid of KC or their aging tight end🤷
Building a true Dynasty in the modern day NFL, with the Salary Caps, extensive trading, other teams improving & changing, free agency coupled and different lengths contracts for different positions means that predicting what your team will look like 4-5 years down the line from now is so hard outside of 6 or so key players.
It takes two key components... 1. Winning rings. 2. Star players not taking 500 million dollar contracts.. Brady takes less money, Mike Evans just restructured to allow more room... You cannot sustain a "super team" with one or two players making ridiculous amounts of money.
Are so-called dynasties good or bad for sports? I’m trying to figure that out. I think any city that has a champion wants a dynasty, but the cities with teams trying to win hate dynasties. There are more cities on the outside than n the inside. Idk if they’re good or bad. Predictability is comfortable and we love stories. Rematches are great stories. But predictability is also boring, and a lot if deserving players, coaches and executives miss out.
I agree that Tyreek is not just a slot receiver. And I also believe that the immediate impact of this trade will be felt in the AFC West more than the East.
I think everyone is forgetting how this Chiefs team drafts.. tyreek outside the first round, Hunt outside the first round. where was Kelce drafted? Or jones? While the Bears completely gaffed the Chiefs drafted Mahomes, they got more out of Pringle, Conley, and Robinson than anyone else ever will. What was the last thing you heard about Sammy Watkins? What about the offensive line they rebuilt in one offseason??? All these guys are acting like the chiefs make jets type personnel decisions. Get real. Talking heads 🙄
Hill enable all of those guys. Mahomes hail mary to Hill hit >50% of the time. Everyone had to play back. However I am not saying this is a Culpepper/Moss situation, but don't act like Hill isn't special AF.
He doesnt have to take it off the top he can turn a bubble screen to a td or a slant short routes like that. He can do it all they acting like hill just another good receiver, uh no hes a great WR..
"Dynasty! DYNASTY? Don't talk about dynasty," (I said in my best Jim Mora impression).🤭 I love my Chiefs & am so grateful for our SB Win! Tyreek got his ring, & now he's gonna get paid. We remain cautiously optimistic. Go CHIEFS!!❣️
I thought that this was Wiley’s strongest take in weeks! The truth is that Mahommes is an undisciplined quarterback at times and needs to become more of a technician like Ric said. Truthfully, I really don’t trust Andy Reid either for the long term. All of his teams tend to underperform in the biggest games historically. As the AFC gets tougher, KC will have to play smarter and more disciplined football to get to and win another Super Bowl. 🏈
@@apaulcalypse8305 but you do lose one Super Bowl and an AFC championship that way. Sorry KC fan! Andy has a history of being undisciplined and so does Patrick. Sorry pal. Truth hurts. 💯
As a football fan that is tired of KC I am soooo glad he left for the $$$. Defenses around the league will not FEAR KC offense as with Hill. No one on the KC offense now will DEMAND double to triple coverage. The dynasty that was supposed to be is now over. The receivers, tight ends, and running backs job just got harder.
“Dynasty is now over” KC is undefeated in the playoffs since this comment. Mahomes has never not won SB MVP since this comment. 😂😂😂 if you were tired of KC 2 years ago you must be in shambles now
I love this show sometimes but some of these guys are really haters lol Wiley can never admit when he’s wrong the no one will win 6 rings in 19 years like Brady
Fun fact slot receiver in the pass years Julian Edelman with Brady 3 rings, Matthew Stafford with Cooper kupp 1 ring, Brady with Evans and Godwin rotating at slot ring, and Mahomes with hill ring. Game has change even the 49ers have an SB appearance with a slot receiver
You don’t get better trading great talent... this is always the problem with teams they think they know better like they made the talent and not the talent made the team better...
@@susanconger5110 you're clearly just a PM hater, because this post or my comment had nothing to do with him. Since you clearly missed my point let me say it like this. I don't care if everyone else on the team made $10, no receiver is worth $30 million a year.
Marlon Phillips maybe your right but in my opinion you want the best you gota pay the best! Let’s see how they do in a few years! You can’t win without a top QB and a great WR aka 49ers Cowboys Stealers Raiders! Pats cheated so they don’t count
Tua ain't going to be able to sling it far enough for hill I see alot of reverses and screens like how sf use deebo Samuel I mean their o.c is in Miami now.
Tyreek is not on DeVante's level as far as playing the WR position. Don't get production confused with skill. Tyreek's game is predicated on mostly speed and the threat of it....not route running. With that being said....Chiefs might be in trouble. You can't replace speed like that.
There's a thing called when a qb gets paid it handicaps the team example Aaron Rodgers no Adam's, Mahomes no tyrekk dak no amari, the nfl owners are cheap and might pay one guy but everybody not getting paid
This didn't age well AT ALL. Watching in 2024. They actually PAID these analysts. Mahomes will fall off? Hill left, Chiefs win back to back. GREAT trade!
Tyreek almost had 1,200 yards when Alex Smith was throwing him the ball, he can adjust to any QB. There's more pressure on Mahomes to keep- the machine going with a bunch of new WRs.
True. In '17, which was only Hill's sophmore season, Smith was #1 for 40+ yd completions, too. And Smith was also much more accurate than PM (completion %). It will be interesting to see if PM ''elevates'' his team this season without Hill. Time will tell.
Chiefs issue last year wasn't about the league figuring out hill or mahomes, it was more about what chiefs didn't have. If they had a big power back going against all these two high safetys, they would of been unstoppable because you couldn't defend them and more running would of helped they're defense. Hope they plan on getting a better RB this year if they're smart.
@@Nedo_ao Well, I noticed Andy doing typical Philly Andy things; same thing he did to Smith at times. He just plain stopped the run second half, and poor clock management. One season I kept track; every game Reid gave 30-35 run touches, KC won. The games he only called for 15-20 run plays, they lost. With or without exceptional RBs.
@@susanconger5110 Yeah Mahomes going to have to grow and take charge of that and demand they run more or they done. Brady was playing bad with the Bucs, running Arians system until Brady started running the offense how he wants to run it. Mahomes gotta do the same.
the Dolphins will be interesting to watch. Hill is that special player you can't guard. He is too fast. Now, if the Giants decide to get rid of Jones. that would be a perfect storm for the Dolphins.
This guy drags coverages all over the place. He made Kelce a lot better... They are going have to find some real burners in the draft. How confident are the scouts..? Justyn Ross - you better go work out right now...
@@franciscoguzman1065 they probably going to go with the back up forgot his name he did show promise I don't even know why I'm going this deep it's because I'm a jets fan and there isn't anything to look forward to😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
The picks they got KC needs to help rebuild the defense. The offensive will have to be different and that is fine. I believe the numbers without Hill for Patrick are still great numbers so they have opportunity to now rebuild the defense and get a better running game. You can't do either of that paying Hill.
At the end of the day he got his money that’s all tht matters. If Patrick Mahomes is a 500 million dollar QB then prove it. The NFL will learn to equally pay their starters. QBs are overpaid
I love Schlereth, but calling Tyreek a “slot guy” is like calling steph curry a wing shooter. Tyreek has been the chiefs #1 WR for 5 years… BAD take by Schlereth
He may play in the slot, but you cannot deny his impact on the field. The NFL CBA is complete garbage. Imagine if the NBA's pay was segregated by position. They're trying to downplay Tyreek Hill because he plays in the slot. Why not blame Mahomes or Kelce for failing to score? Lol it takes more than one player or position to get into the end zone.
Basketball are 2 completely different sports 1 player is 20% of what is on the court not on Football where a player is 9% of what is on the field, and QB's get that value because yo need a perfect team on defense and Special tems to win a SB with a ok QB
Probably the best take ive ever heard from Wiley regarding KC. Kc needs to switch gears because what they have been doing the last few years has become unsustainable with teams playing shell coverage/ cover 2. Lifelong KC fan.
The chiefs made out with this trade. 5 draft picks was more than GB got for Adams. Considering this draft is deep at wr, I think this is perfect timing.
It was a much different situation. Davante was a free-agent and they franchise tagged him. And he told them that he wouldn’t play under a franchise tag. And since he didn’t want to resign theywere either keeping him one more year or they would have gotten something for him and teams are smart enough to not give up much for a player they know they’ll get for free next year. Hill was under normal contract, not a free agent.
As a chiefs fan, Reek is just a slot receiver, just a “slot receiver”? You must be out of your mind, He can play special teams and play outside too, and KC’s dynasty isn’t over, the league year just started two weeks ago and they already added Marques Valdes-Scantlling and Juju Smith-Schuster. They are not reek but it doesn’t mean that the season is over, It’s easier to replace Tyreek than to replace Mahomes, I am pretty sure they’ll find someone that can play, and don’t forget Andy Reid (is one of the best head coaches in history) and Greg Lewis (Tyreek’s wide receivers coach, who taught him from 2016 until he moved to running backs coach) are still on the team, They’ll find someone to replace him, yet Reek is one of my favorite players, I know Veach and those two will find a plan to get the offense a new number one, They’re still playoff contenders on offense but as super bowl contenders, that’s still questionable, receiver isnt just a need, you got almost the whole defense that needs work, But KC’s offense has carried them into the playoffs for numerous years, They’ll be fine.
The "KC dynasty" isn't over... but it's also not a dynasty either. You can't claim dynasty with only one super bowl win. That's just idiotic. Stop using the term "dynasty" until you WIN THREE.
The issue with Mahomes is fundamentals. His gadget plays get him out of sync and he has to do something dynamic to get back in rhythm. Chiefs will decline and we’ll see if they can adjust not having Hill to stretch the field
@Gold Tau ... with Hill taking the top off of defenses. How does he look when he can't play backyard football with the fastest, most dangerous weapon in the league?
Half of mahomes ints was on hills hands..people are crying over him..He had a major drop in tds..2020 he had 15 tds 2021 he had 9 and lead the team in dropped passes
this was the most honest analysis of the trade. others are just saying they still have kelce and mahomes they will be fine... no kelce is good.. and mahomes is good, but hill made them great. hill called for safety help which in turn gave kelce mismatches. the improvs that mahomes did and crazy escapability in pocket than deep bombs were because hill is out there. he could just throw in a direction of open space and know hill is either going to get there first or it's going to be incomplete. the elite oline they supposedly have now.. are mainly new guys and career backups outside of orlando brown that haven't had to face constant pressure because you can't bring consistant blitzes and jam the box when you got a speedy guy with solid route-running and jump ability like hill. now that oline will face more pressure, the box will get jammed so the run game will also be effected. this changes everything. broncos and chiefs are in a battle for last place.
Its really simple - Hill did not deserve to make 30 mil a year let alone be the highesr paid WR in the league. Hill is great with the right QB and the right scheme, his speed is unparralleled, but its simple math. 2 DBs take away 1 great WR - get 2 good WRs for less than the 1 great and with Kelce youll always have a good WR one on one. Hill wasnt the same before Mahomes and wont be the same after. He was going to leave no matter what, and good for him getting paid, this way KC got good draft capital for him while the rest of the AFC is way over paying for old talent. It was a very smart move.
I think the problem with your logic is that the chiefs can't start 12 players on offense. And Hill isn't just a great WR, he's a transcendent player who's speed functions as a cheat code for the Chiefs offense. With that element gone, defenses don't fear the Chiefs offense anymore.
@@BossRoller yet he was shut down alot this year, so thats not true. Pre Mahomes, Hill still had his speed but wasnt a top 10 WR in the league. Not to mention, Hill is regualrly at the top of the list in drops. He has avg hands and is an avg route runner....his speed coupled with mahomes ability and reid play calling made him great. You dont pay that WR 30 mil a year. In games without Hill, Mahomes is 5-1 and the offense is actually more potent due to not trying to force him the ball so much.
@@stevenh3508 Hill put up nearly 1200 yards and 7TDs in just his 2nd season with Alex Smith at QB. That was 7th in the league in terms of yardage. I think people just assume Hill was just pedestrian before Mahomes but it's not true. Look at his stats. There's a reason why everyone said that Mahomes landed in the ideal situation in KC.
@@BossRoller you just proved my point by having to cherry pick his only stat other than drops that he was top 10 in. He was 7th in the league in yards as the only recieiving option outside of kelce in KC before anyone started double teaming him. Pff had him ranked as a top 15 WR....then Mahomes started and he jumped to a top 6 WR where he has hovered around. Hes never cracked top 5 overall but has always been at the top of the league in drops and been rated a middle of the pack route runner. He has games where he completely goes off and then has games where he completely disappears. Hes a good # 1 that needs another #1 recieving threat as well as a QB that can scramble and throw a good deep ball that has nothing to do with the original route to be a great #1...thats not tua or bridgewater. His speed is what makes him a #1 and as was shown last year can be taken away with the proper coverage. Also, Hill led the league last year in passes to him with a 70% catch percentage that resulted in Int.
KC may not have scored a td in the sb against Tampa but Mahomes DID hit Tyreek Hill right in his Chevy Chase in the end zone, Tyreek let it slip through his hands hit his face mask and fumbled away a chance of being competitive. Just one of a number of huge howlers by Tyreek Hill that have cost KC, Bengals twice, 3 of Mahomes INTs last season etc etc... just sayin'....
Mahomes was finished the minute Russ signed with the Broncos, and look at what else has transpired in the AFC West. The Broncos, Raiders and Chargers have acquired an embarrassment of riches. I hope DK and/or Lockett joins Russ in Denver.
That's Patrick's main weakness. It's hard for him to just dink and dunk his way down the field. He needs to work on his mechanics. That's why he had so many interceptions because he was trying to do the offense that used to work before and teams had figured that out now he's lost his number one receiver. So I see them taking a major step back
How can Mahomes be considered the best QB in the league if it affects him to THAT extent. It isn't as if he's surrounded by scrubs without Hill. He has the best TE in the game, an amazing O-line and good talent at the RB position. If you are the premier QB in the league, that should be enough to elevate the rest of the offense. The truth is that Hill has been Mahomes' crutch and was the most important element of that offense. Hill was the element that other teams feared, moreso than Mahomes.
@@BossRoller everyone knows that to beat mahomes you have to have two high safeties and make them dink and dunk and he was having a lot of trouble doing that last season. Actually that's how the bucks beat them in the super bowl they didn't score touchdown. If you look at his mechanics they're not very good. He can throw deep but he doesn't have the patience to dink and dunk his way all the way down and score.
@@victoranguiano7401 I agree completely. We're going to get a chance to see if Mahomes can adapt to a true pro-style offense without the stress that Hill places on a D. I don't think that's his game but we will find out.
@@byronsmith3152 ikr... the NFL tries to lower the worth of certain positions and raising QB. This has cussed a problem for them in league where half the QBs including backups or overpaid. It’s the QB that’s usually overpaid...
These guys gave some of the strangest takes I've ever heard. The were speaking like Tyrek was just a guy that was on the roster. The Chiefs get zero rings without him. We'll see how good they are without him.
People in KC are NOT freaking out about this. This is better for the Chiefs than it is for Miami. Get one #1 receiver with those picks and the rest at that WR position are just fine. Spend the rest on defense. This is the opportunity to balance out this team and slow down those improved offenses in the AFC West.
When I was a kid... I was introduced to the 'water bug.' The water bug could move against the current and was virtually impossible to be caught. THIS is what Tyreek Hill is. Hill is a generational talent. Good luck KC at replacing him.
I don't think people realize how fast Hardman is. He's blistering. That's why teams had such a hard time covering both of those speed demons Hill and Hardman. Without Hill They will double hardman. Losing Hill is tremendous, especially since he is responsible for like 2/3s of thier big plays. Everyone acts like his speed is unique, but many lightning fast guys have been in the NFL. Hill is fast and quick. His stop/start and cut ability is what's unparalleled by other current athletes. The guy is lightning in a bottle. But He's not the fastest Ive ever seen in pads. Chris Johnson was faster. So was Don Beebe.
Deebow Samuel is unique and superior versitility. He is also such a beast that he often just runs over, literally, defenders, lol. A QBRunningbackReceiver all rolled into one. Amazing player this season.
Wait, when did KC become a dynasty?? They won one ring lmao. The patriots were a dynasty... Alabama is a dynasty.. KC was (and may still be ) a really talented team, like... unbelievably talented... Doesn't make them a dynasty though.
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The cheetah made them not mahomes or anything else even coach. He dink n dunk because of the cheetah! Also fyi he is a WideOut! Where u get slot from!? He’s all around receiver.
I would love for you guys have to give back some of the money you get paid when you make clown a** statements like Marcellus🧂🤡
@@dondaddydollazjr.6159 😂😂😂😂 yeah thats all cap
He isn’t just a slot wide receiver his speed is unlike any other and opens up the entire field for everyone else including Kelce and he lines up outside a lot
Cooper kupp was a slot receiver for a while before the last like year or so, and how'd that turn out ? Lol mark is sniffing glue
Dude sounded like a complete idiot there lol only a slot wr lol
There are 15 wrs in the draft with 4.4 speed and under definitely could b find someone to open up
Hill was just speed. He barely got open during a route, made most of his money on broken plays and cross routes. Couldn't escape even decent double teams with his moves
And still put up crazy stats after all that lol that’s crazy right yea they wild for trading Hill
Why is this guy trying to undermine Tyreek Hill's departure lmfao. Stop it. He's top 5 in the LEAGUE
Let me see:
Adams
Kupp
Chase
Jefferson
Samuel
That's 5, no top 5 for Hill. 🤷🏾♂️👀
You really think he’s top five without Mahomes
@@mr.castle Jamar Chase is not a top 5 receiver, or better than Tyreek, off a rookie year.
@@UniversallyRy LMAO, yes he is. Not only had better numbers, also played great during the playoffs. Is in a rookie contract. What more 🤣
@@mr.castle You gotta be kidding right? Debo and davante are the only 2 really top 5 out the guys you named IMO, chase and Jefferson are still young and cupp just had a breakout season
Tyreek Hill is a no.1 WR, he can play on the outside and inside the slot..
Hes in a league of his own.
I think he's at his best in the slot though wouldnt you say? They used him in certain ways that took advantage of his speed. He didnt just line up and run fly routes on the outside.
I hope he's happy being irrelevant in Miami with a nice payday.
He was yes but at the end of 2020 and all last year 2021. Teams neutralized Hill's deep threat by using cover-2............
Chiefs were at the bottom with least amount of 20+ yard passes last year............
Lets talk Hill and the game against the Bills, remember that punt return where he got big yards but there was a flag and the chiefs and to return again? He Andy Reid did not use a rested player, Hill took the return again, broke off an even bigger return; you cant teach or coach what Tyreek does he is the formula X that makes you super
Let’s not forget about that late 4th QT 75 yard TD in that game that should won it then. X factor supreme.
They gne learn the hard way
@@drizzyuzumaki8753 facts
With Hill on the field, Mahomes was able to find open man. Opps are too busy with double guarding Hill.
@@drizzyuzumaki8753 😅
Hill deserved every dollar and the Chiefs will regret trading him.
I'm a Broncos fan and the Chiefs couldn't pay Hill 30 mill a year and fill a roster
Obviously. He's more impactful than Mahomes. They'll see...
They will survive and move on. You may not replace speed factor but you got free agents and a nice draft if wr comming up. Remember they found t. Hill and k . hunt in the draft they can find them again.
@@keenannorris3309 mahomes overrated
@@michaelcooke8989 lol if it was so easy to find a t.hill why HASN’T ANOTHER T. HILL POPPED UP ?
Chiefs Gen Manager Veach, just pulled off a Belichick move by unloading expensive players for multiple draft picks. This is a great move and now they can get more balanced
In KC our motto is “ In Veach we Trust”! The Chiefs didn’t want to pay Hill top WR money especially for multiple years! They also thought enough of Hill to tell him to get his big payday!! As for the guy way left on this panel, You really should find a way to work with Skippy Brainless so you 2 Mahomes/Chiefs HATERS can sit around comparing notes on being HATERS of Red Kingdom! I personally can’t stand hearing either one of you 2 JERKS even mentioning the 4-time Super Bowl Champions Kansas City Chiefs!!! ❤🏈🏆🏆🏆🏆❤
Its a business decision. You can't have the highest paid QB and the highest paid receiver along with a O line and premier tight end.
Tyreek Hill is not just a slot receiver! Disrespectful
Thank you. You took the words right out of my mouth.
How many times did he line up outside the numbers?
Right this is so wrong lol
That’s what I’m saying! They are disrespecting skill and talent
Absolutely not a slot receiver......
Long story short the Chiefs didn't have the money to pay Tyreek.
Exactly they gave Pat all that money. These guys just talking. Trust me they wanted to keep Rek
No they didnt want to do what every other AFC team is doing right now and way over pay for aging talent. Hill is great but should nto be the highest paid WR, good for him getting his but better on KC for not overpaying. Hill was good before Mahomes but Mahomes made him great with the way he plays, thats why Mahomes is the one you pay. Hill will be good in Miami but if anyone thinks he will have the same greatness they are crazy, definitely not 30 mil a year greatness.
@Steven H Bro any good quarterback going to make there receivers better that's a no brainer. But you still try to find some way to keep them together these guys was on pace to be the best Duo. But it's a business league So It Is What It Is
@@Bryan-hd3xx no WR should be paid 30 million, that was the issue. Thats a huge chunk of the salary for a single player that can be completly taken out of the game with 2 decent DBs, it happened all season. Not to mention, hill has alot of drops. Good for Hill on making his money, but also good on KC for not overpaying and recognizing hiw it was going to play out in time to get great draft compensation. Now KC needs to get another good WR to pair with JuJu to make up alot of the ground they lost.
@@stevenh3508 💯
"Dynasty"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 A dynasty is 3 Rings in 10 years... When did that even become close to happening for mahomo and the quiefs.
3 in 5 years or 4 in 6 years is dynastic
So i ? Guess we 1 ring away 🤷
Update?
HIll is a generational talent and extremely hard to replace. I don't know if the Dolphins will be able to bring out his highest potential, but I'm 90% sure the Chiefs will regret trading him.
No way the chiefs could give him that kinda of $$$. Kelce or Hill, once Mahommes got paid, not both.
@@dsmith3134 I would rather trade mahomes than hill
@@chiefsguy7236 kelce*
Crazy. Hes a track star with a great QB. What Hill lacks is size and jump balls.
@@chiefsguy7236 you would be fired immediately when you mentioned that to the owner.
Cell with his Wileyisms 🤣. "They didn't draw the line in the sand, they READ the line in the sand" Got me ☠️
That was fire thou...
Marks take is really out dated... wrs play different positions and are schemed in the slot to abuse coverage. Some guys do play exclusively in the slot but Hill wasn't one of them.
He's old school which is his best and worse trait
He's not old school. He's saying organizations are still old school and they're paying WR based on an old philosophy.
@Benjamin Keating you need to learn how to recognize when someone is giving their own personal opinion vs ehn they are commenting on someone else's viewpoint. He never says at any point that HE personally does not believe Hill or slot receivers in general can be #1 receivers. He said that ORGANIZATIONS in the NFL have the viewpoint that slot receivers should not be paid like true number ones. He's commenting on how the CHEIFS view Tyreke Hill not on how HE views Tyreke Hill.
@Benjamin Keating I agree he too shallow
@@brandonaldridge3169 They didn't even listen to what Mark said nor tried to understand what Mark said..and what you said
This changes the whole dynamic on how defenses will strategize against the chiefs. Sure wr's are a dime a dozen, but u are delusional if u believe that any draft pick chiefs get will have an impact on defense scheme like tyreek did. So many drafted players are complete busts and sure it's a 1st round pick but it's a late 1st. I think chiefs are much weaker now.
I’m a chiefs fan and I totally agree. The only sliver of hope I have is that the chiefs draft so well (hill, Jones, Mahomes) that maybe they will draft 2-3 players with these picks that end up being good starters.
@@mattstone9364 I see u guys trading multiple lower round picks for a high first round young wr
@@virgilbrink7555 yeah I agree or maybe moving up to select a DB…I just hope with hills 20m off the cap that we can get Mathieu to come back.
@@mattstone9364 I was thinking that also, hopefully there's no love lost thou. He was a leader on that defense.
Yah I totally agree
Tyreek Hill is not a slot WR. Wtf is STINK talking about? He literally can play all 3 WR spots.
He is a small fast WR. That is the definition of a slot receiver.
Big facts bro!!!
Hardman is the slot WR
@The BenC the definition of a SLOT receiver is a WR who plays on the slot. HILL does not play in the SLOT. He plays X, and Y. A player SIZE dont determine if they are a slot receiver dude.
He is the #1 Receiver.
And a Tyreek Hill slant across the Middle has Pucker Factor 10x the next closest Player.
Kelce is a Beast, but Tyreek kept the underneath wide open because the safeties had to stay back.
The disrespect to try to label Hill only a “slot receiver”! Get your money Tyreek! ✊🏾✊🏾
he'll get what 4-5mil more than he would've on the chiefs? He wont be the same without Mahomes and wont see the playoff success
@@OscarUnrated
As a ⚡️Chargers⚡️ Fan, it’s music to my ears Tyreek Hill have left, but I give respect where respect is due. T.Hill has been putting in work to be just labeled as a “Slot Receiver.” 🐬 have stacking up as well, so we’ll see what they do nxt szn!
@@mosmooth2421 yeah he’s a lot better than just a slot receiver, kind of like people disrespect Kupp by saying that, but there’s way too much talent in the AFC for a team quarterbacked by Tua to do anything in the playoffs. If they even make it, they haven’t been there in 7 years
He is a slot reciever. Its not disrespect. Its job description. He lines up i the slot therefore he is a slot guy.
@@OscarUnrated
✊🏾💯Facts💯✊🏾
Never will be able to replace him. This changes everything.!Those instant bombs are over!!!
Honestly have you EVER seen andy reid without an explosive offense?? Bc I haven’t, does desean jackson ring a bell? He finds and brings out the best in these guys i say tyreek just went from the baddest man on the planet to trindon holliday lol… atleast he’s getting paid tho right he’ll be back at a discount after miami releases him year after next BET!
Update?
Marcellus actually had a great point this time. They needed to evolve the passing game. However, Wiley resume his hating ways because Marcellus's last two points were completely wrong and off the mark but initially he was on point.
The price was too high, Hill was right to get his money though, and obviously the Chiefs will miss him he's an amazing player, but also I believe in Andy Reid getting the most out of the offense. I say this as an Eagles fan who saw him time and time again get the most out of an eagles offense that had Todd Pinkston as the number 1 WR.
facts big facts
I don’t think hill is right to get $30 million dollars. I might be bias, but I honestly think 30 million for a wideout is RIDICULOUS. That’s decent qb money. Only players that should get paid that much are decent qbs and Aaron Donald type players
@@PC-tf6jt he is almost like an aaron donald. He only getting like 2 million more than davante Adam's. Happy dolphAn here
Its a different league.
He Didn’t Win Anything With The Eagles Tho😂
??? "Is KC's dynasty over?" 2 super bowl wins in 50+ years... yeah that's a real dynasty alright 😂
The show didn't say anything about a dynasty... That was the youtubers headline watch the clickbait
The chiefs never were a dynasty n the chiefs made the biggest mistake in there life the chiefs so called dynasty is been dead. For a while.
@@randywatson6583 doesn't matter who put it up, only an idiot would say that... click bait or not
@@spartacusrex1144
Define a dynasty? In NFL terms.
LOL, just what I was thinkin. What 'dynasty'?
No one is spooked about any other Chiefs pass catcher! Period! Patrick is going to be under assault all season!!! In the AFC West particularly!
Yeah they got draft picks, but all those will be going against top tier NFL caliber talent...
Huh, Kelce had every team scared. What are you talking about? He got doubled and grabbed nearly every game.
@@KSU-ce2uc who doubled Kelce every play when you had two high safeties for Tyreek? At most the teams played zone and you're mistaking that for double coverage?? Without Tyreek no one's afraid of KC or their aging tight end🤷
@@jasontucker9344 I don't disagree with that.
@@jasontucker9344 kelce is still a dog but without a legit #1 receiver he's going to get covered like never before.
@@KSU-ce2uc 😂😂😂😂 queefs dont put fear in noone now
Thank-you Tyreek Hill ! You just did a HUGE favor for the Chiefs ! You freed up Patrick ...
It was never a dynasty tho, just a very talented team, with only one Chip 😂
The people that consider the Chiefs right now a dynasty, may consider the 90's Bills a dynasty🤣🤣🤣
Exactly. This is football. Dynasties are extremely hard to come by.🤣🤣 Patriots made it LOOK easy
@@lets_play_a_game268 true by cheating 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you thank you thank you
@@obarbeito lmaooooo. U right about that!!!
This off-season is insane 😳
Tyreek Hill made Mahomes good. Mahomes didn’t make Hill good.
So can you say the same thing for Alex Smith?
@@voiceoverduleey6176 yes. Tyreek’s first season as a full starter was Alex Smith’s best season in his career. The next year Mahomes took over.
You crazy why didn't Hill make Alex Smith this good? Let's see if he make Tua good
@@imSLO- let's see if he make Tua good
Should've traded mahomes instead
Building a true Dynasty in the modern day NFL, with the Salary Caps, extensive trading, other teams improving & changing, free agency coupled and different lengths contracts for different positions means that predicting what your team will look like 4-5 years down the line from now is so hard outside of 6 or so key players.
For comparison, Brady didn’t have any highly paid receivers during the dynasty years.
@@jrad410 only the best coach that didn't mind afew things
It takes two key components... 1. Winning rings. 2. Star players not taking 500 million dollar contracts.. Brady takes less money, Mike Evans just restructured to allow more room... You cannot sustain a "super team" with one or two players making ridiculous amounts of money.
Are so-called dynasties good or bad for sports? I’m trying to figure that out. I think any city that has a champion wants a dynasty, but the cities with teams trying to win hate dynasties. There are more cities on the outside than n the inside.
Idk if they’re good or bad. Predictability is comfortable and we love stories. Rematches are great stories. But predictability is also boring, and a lot if deserving players, coaches and executives miss out.
@@jrad410 Exactly. PM chose to keep his huge $$ contract and not restructure. So time will tell this season.
I agree that Tyreek is not just a slot receiver. And I also believe that the immediate impact of this trade will be felt in the AFC West more than the East.
I think everyone is forgetting how this Chiefs team drafts.. tyreek outside the first round, Hunt outside the first round. where was Kelce drafted? Or jones? While the Bears completely gaffed the Chiefs drafted Mahomes, they got more out of Pringle, Conley, and Robinson than anyone else ever will. What was the last thing you heard about Sammy Watkins? What about the offensive line they rebuilt in one offseason??? All these guys are acting like the chiefs make jets type personnel decisions. Get real. Talking heads 🙄
Hill enable all of those guys. Mahomes hail mary to Hill hit >50% of the time. Everyone had to play back. However I am not saying this is a Culpepper/Moss situation, but don't act like Hill isn't special AF.
@@BryceJ80 exactly what I was going to say. He enabled all those open receivers. I love it, he's gone.!!! Bolt up ⚡⚡⚡⚡😋
Let's just be honest tyreik was utilized to the best of his ability in Kansas City
Who said he wasn't?
Tyreek*
Better to let go of a player one year too earlier than two years too late.
28?
Lol.... Copium is at all time high in Narrowhead right now
@@silent1826 Is it though? 😂
@@silent1826remember that time yall sold the farm to get Russ thinking you could compete, then watched us win back-to-back chips? 😂😂😂😂
Seriously. Marcellous is absolutely right. Someone record this and play this back in January.
so what happened lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thus didn't age well
Play it back every February! Let’s make it an annual tradition. KC hasn’t lost a playoff game since this take 😂😂
He doesnt have to take it off the top he can turn a bubble screen to a td or a slant short routes like that. He can do it all they acting like hill just another good receiver, uh no hes a great WR..
"Dynasty! DYNASTY? Don't talk about dynasty," (I said in my best Jim Mora impression).🤭 I love my Chiefs & am so grateful for our SB Win! Tyreek got his ring, & now he's gonna get paid. We remain cautiously optimistic. Go CHIEFS!!❣️
I thought that this was Wiley’s strongest take in weeks! The truth is that Mahommes is an undisciplined quarterback at times and needs to become more of a technician like Ric said. Truthfully, I really don’t trust Andy Reid either for the long term. All of his teams tend to underperform in the biggest games historically. As the AFC gets tougher, KC will have to play smarter and more disciplined football to get to and win another Super Bowl. 🏈
Factual!!
I agree with everything you said
You don't almost make it 4 Super Bowls in a row being undisciplined. Sorry Mahomes makes it look too easy
@@apaulcalypse8305 but you do lose one Super Bowl and an AFC championship that way. Sorry KC fan! Andy has a history of being undisciplined and so does Patrick. Sorry pal. Truth hurts. 💯
@@BeyBrightOfficial You're delusional. You got a better coach to take his place? Lets hear whos better
Dynasty? They weren't even close they only won one SB in the last couple of years but losing hill will make it difficult for them to get back
Update?
3rd best team in the division 😂😂 bum doesn't even know the Dolphins swept the Patriots
As a football fan that is tired of KC I am soooo glad he left for the $$$. Defenses around the league will not FEAR KC offense as with Hill. No one on the KC offense now will DEMAND double to triple coverage. The dynasty that was supposed to be is now over. The receivers, tight ends, and running backs job just got harder.
Lol clown now youe gonna have to cover Hardman kelce juju good good luck
This didn't age well 🤣
Yea try again
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Dynasty is now over”
KC is undefeated in the playoffs since this comment.
Mahomes has never not won SB MVP since this comment.
😂😂😂 if you were tired of KC 2 years ago you must be in shambles now
I love this show sometimes but some of these guys are really haters lol Wiley can never admit when he’s wrong the no one will win 6 rings in 19 years like Brady
The fact that he's a lamar fanboy negates all his opinions. He's a clown
Prediction for Tyreek in 2022, 8 TDs and 5 drops and 3 ints off of his hands.
Sounds about right
More like 13 drops.
What happened to 7 rings 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
🤣
Yall couldn't honestly have believed right?
He said they were chasing Jordan
Fun fact slot receiver in the pass years Julian Edelman with Brady 3 rings, Matthew Stafford with Cooper kupp 1 ring, Brady with Evans and Godwin rotating at slot ring, and Mahomes with hill ring. Game has change even the 49ers have an SB appearance with a slot receiver
Too bad Russ and Tyler Lockett couldn’t get one, all because Pete Carroll has mush for brains.
You don’t get better trading great talent... this is always the problem with teams they think they know better like they made the talent and not the talent made the team better...
You also don't get better paying a receiver $30 million.
Tell that to the Cowboys who traded Hershey Walker and then built a Super Bowl team.
@@TumultuousM Or an average+ QB $50 MIL. ;-) This season, PM got exposed. ;-) Way over paid and over hyped.
@@susanconger5110 you're clearly just a PM hater, because this post or my comment had nothing to do with him. Since you clearly missed my point let me say it like this. I don't care if everyone else on the team made $10, no receiver is worth $30 million a year.
Marlon Phillips maybe your right but in my opinion you want the best you gota pay the best! Let’s see how they do in a few years! You can’t win without a top QB and a great WR aka 49ers Cowboys Stealers Raiders! Pats cheated so they don’t count
Big trade for Miami,gonna make Tua look good.
TUNA
@@VaanRavi Good looking I fixed it.I just got finished smokin some Kush when I made that comment.
We can all hope...
Tua ain't going to be able to sling it far enough for hill I see alot of reverses and screens like how sf use deebo Samuel I mean their o.c is in Miami now.
Can someone tell me when the chiefs got a dynasty? I thought you needed multiple chips to do that 😂
Acho and Nick Wright put that mess out there
Dynasty? What Dynasty? They only have one ring in 4 years!
Dynasty is 3 chips or better… Chiefs never been a dynasty lol
Tyreek is not on DeVante's level as far as playing the WR position. Don't get production confused with skill. Tyreek's game is predicated on mostly speed and the threat of it....not route running. With that being said....Chiefs might be in trouble. You can't replace speed like that.
Right, and he’s not as good as D. Hopkins or J. Chase either IMO.
So now he’s just a slot receiver? Go Fins 🐬🐬🐬🐬🐬
Can't believe he said that. Hill can line up everywhere.
Wrong..Patrick is a winner..He won without Hill👏🏾👈🏽
WOW!!!!!!!!! Why did they do that, for?!?!?!?!? The best, or one of the best, WR in the game; definitely the fastest.
He not close to the best adams cupp dk
To save money Miami had to give up 5 draft Picks for a receiver this ain't Madden
@@cjfrm3658 🤣😂🤣
There's a thing called when a qb gets paid it handicaps the team example Aaron Rodgers no Adam's, Mahomes no tyrekk dak no amari, the nfl owners are cheap and might pay one guy but everybody not getting paid
@@sgtslaughter573 U laughing Dolphin making to The AFC Championship Game Yes Or No
This didn't age well AT ALL. Watching in 2024. They actually PAID these analysts. Mahomes will fall off? Hill left, Chiefs win back to back. GREAT trade!
He was the offense still think Andy gets 10 wins behind the raiders with 11-12
Not with that defense in that division hahaha.
Tyreek almost had 1,200 yards when Alex Smith was throwing him the ball, he can adjust to any QB. There's more pressure on Mahomes to keep- the machine going with a bunch of new WRs.
True. In '17, which was only Hill's sophmore season, Smith was #1 for 40+ yd completions, too. And Smith was also much more accurate than PM (completion %). It will be interesting to see if PM ''elevates'' his team this season without Hill. Time will tell.
The Chiefs will be fine without Tyreek Hill #10
Chiefs issue last year wasn't about the league figuring out hill or mahomes, it was more about what chiefs didn't have. If they had a big power back going against all these two high safetys, they would of been unstoppable because you couldn't defend them and more running would of helped they're defense. Hope they plan on getting a better RB this year if they're smart.
chiefs was never unstoppable (Post season Brady and his squad always been Mahomes & Chiefs kryptonite)
@@UnknownRaiderGuy I said they "would of been" unstoppable if they got a power run game, definitely not they're kryptonite. That's your bias talking.
@@Nedo_ao Well, I noticed Andy doing typical Philly Andy things; same thing he did to Smith at times. He just plain stopped the run second half, and poor clock management. One season I kept track; every game Reid gave 30-35 run touches, KC won. The games he only called for 15-20 run plays, they lost. With or without exceptional RBs.
@@susanconger5110 Yeah Mahomes going to have to grow and take charge of that and demand they run more or they done. Brady was playing bad with the Bucs, running Arians system until Brady started running the offense how he wants to run it. Mahomes gotta do the same.
the Dolphins will be interesting to watch. Hill is that special player you can't guard. He is too fast. Now, if the Giants decide to get rid of Jones. that would be a perfect storm for the Dolphins.
This guy drags coverages all over the place. He made Kelce a lot better... They are going have to find some real burners in the draft. How confident are the scouts..?
Justyn Ross - you better go work out right now...
These are 3 awesome takes... I mean, wow... not a bad take out of the entire bunch. Keep these 3
😂😂😂 chiefs kingdom
Miami dolphins going to be a serious contender with Hill and Waddle ...Tua going to have to prove himself
Bridgewater is their QB
Wait what since when idk that....that's crazy Bridgewater I like but since the leg he ain't the same
Doofins have no QB.
@@franciscoguzman1065 they probably going to go with the back up forgot his name he did show promise I don't even know why I'm going this deep it's because I'm a jets fan and there isn't anything to look forward to😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@franciscoguzman1065 Yeah but they'll have the best jet sweep game in the league.
The picks they got KC needs to help rebuild the defense. The offensive will have to be different and that is fine. I believe the numbers without Hill for Patrick are still great numbers so they have opportunity to now rebuild the defense and get a better running game. You can't do either of that paying Hill.
The Chiefs never had a dynasty.
We do now😂
@@midwesttraffikc271 Almost. 1 more within the next 3 seasons will do it.
Lol... Wiley: "that ain't all 😏"
At the end of the day he got his money that’s all tht matters. If Patrick Mahomes is a 500 million dollar QB then prove it. The NFL will learn to equally pay their starters. QBs are overpaid
Two rings without Tyreek
I love Schlereth, but calling Tyreek a “slot guy” is like calling steph curry a wing shooter. Tyreek has been the chiefs #1 WR for 5 years… BAD take by Schlereth
Imagine if the Chiefs would have drafted Taylor instead of CEH🤔
Andy probably wouldn’t have used him. The Chiefs can’t stop throwing the ball but they need some balance and need to run more.
Keep that same energy Spears
He may play in the slot, but you cannot deny his impact on the field.
The NFL CBA is complete garbage. Imagine if the NBA's pay was segregated by position. They're trying to downplay Tyreek Hill because he plays in the slot. Why not blame Mahomes or Kelce for failing to score? Lol it takes more than one player or position to get into the end zone.
Basketball are 2 completely different sports
1 player is 20% of what is on the court not on Football where a player is 9% of what is on the field, and QB's get that value because yo need a perfect team on defense and Special tems to win a SB with a ok QB
I wonder do they go back and look how stupid they sounded since the Chiefs has won 2 back to back Superbowl
why does he keep calling him a slot WR lol
Probably the best take ive ever heard from Wiley regarding KC. Kc needs to switch gears because what they have been doing the last few years has become unsustainable with teams playing shell coverage/ cover 2. Lifelong KC fan.
Their game must change
Starting to really love Wiley's takes. Very intellectual brother.
He's a lamar fanboy lol lamar hasn't even made it to an afc championship game
KC "dynasty" is done. SB win, SB loss, Championship game loss, and next year 1st round wild-card loss.
The chiefs made out with this trade. 5 draft picks was more than GB got for Adams. Considering this draft is deep at wr, I think this is perfect timing.
No one in Chiefs nation is happy with this lol
It was a much different situation. Davante was a free-agent and they franchise tagged him. And he told them that he wouldn’t play under a franchise tag. And since he didn’t want to resign theywere either keeping him one more year or they would have gotten something for him and teams are smart enough to not give up much for a player they know they’ll get for free next year. Hill was under normal contract, not a free agent.
As a chiefs fan, Reek is just a slot receiver, just a “slot receiver”? You must be out of your mind, He can play special teams and play outside too, and KC’s dynasty isn’t over, the league year just started two weeks ago and they already added Marques Valdes-Scantlling and Juju Smith-Schuster. They are not reek but it doesn’t mean that the season is over, It’s easier to replace Tyreek than to replace Mahomes, I am pretty sure they’ll find someone that can play, and don’t forget Andy Reid (is one of the best head coaches in history) and Greg Lewis (Tyreek’s wide receivers coach, who taught him from 2016 until he moved to running backs coach) are still on the team, They’ll find someone to replace him, yet Reek is one of my favorite players, I know Veach and those two will find a plan to get the offense a new number one, They’re still playoff contenders on offense but as super bowl contenders, that’s still questionable, receiver isnt just a need, you got almost the whole defense that needs work, But KC’s offense has carried them into the playoffs for numerous years, They’ll be fine.
The "KC dynasty" isn't over... but it's also not a dynasty either. You can't claim dynasty with only one super bowl win. That's just idiotic. Stop using the term "dynasty" until you WIN THREE.
The issue with Mahomes is fundamentals. His gadget plays get him out of sync and he has to do something dynamic to get back in rhythm. Chiefs will decline and we’ll see if they can adjust not having Hill to stretch the field
Did watch mahomes in college😂😂😂
Lol!
@Gold Tau ... with Hill taking the top off of defenses. How does he look when he can't play backyard football with the fastest, most dangerous weapon in the league?
This didn't age well 🤣
@@smac1130 true. I dont hide when I’m wrong. I actually mean what I say and hold myself accountable. Unlike most.
Marcellus Wiley has some of the worse takes and he played the game! This didn't age well....
Just started the video, already expecting Wiley to talk about Hubert alot.. *cross my fingers* hope he doesn't
He didn't bring him up lol
@@jctslice man.. ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE
This is why Marcelus Wallace is on local TV and majority of the time, “Kansas City went first to worst”, LMAO.. what a clown
Half of mahomes ints was on hills hands..people are crying over him..He had a major drop in tds..2020 he had 15 tds 2021 he had 9 and lead the team in dropped passes
I love when Stink is on the show. He's respected by his peers & players a like. And he knows the game inside out.
liked him on ESPN but late night on the radio he would slur his words. not sure if it was the hits to the head or the bending of the elbow
slot receiver?? wtf is he talking about?
Hardman is the slot WR
this was the most honest analysis of the trade. others are just saying they still have kelce and mahomes they will be fine... no kelce is good.. and mahomes is good, but hill made them great. hill called for safety help which in turn gave kelce mismatches. the improvs that mahomes did and crazy escapability in pocket than deep bombs were because hill is out there. he could just throw in a direction of open space and know hill is either going to get there first or it's going to be incomplete. the elite oline they supposedly have now.. are mainly new guys and career backups outside of orlando brown that haven't had to face constant pressure because you can't bring consistant blitzes and jam the box when you got a speedy guy with solid route-running and jump ability like hill. now that oline will face more pressure, the box will get jammed so the run game will also be effected. this changes everything. broncos and chiefs are in a battle for last place.
Perfect example of a gm tryna b too smart and end up being stupid 🤷🏾♂️hill is a beast and made them really ungaurdable
Its really simple - Hill did not deserve to make 30 mil a year let alone be the highesr paid WR in the league. Hill is great with the right QB and the right scheme, his speed is unparralleled, but its simple math. 2 DBs take away 1 great WR - get 2 good WRs for less than the 1 great and with Kelce youll always have a good WR one on one. Hill wasnt the same before Mahomes and wont be the same after. He was going to leave no matter what, and good for him getting paid, this way KC got good draft capital for him while the rest of the AFC is way over paying for old talent. It was a very smart move.
I think the problem with your logic is that the chiefs can't start 12 players on offense. And Hill isn't just a great WR, he's a transcendent player who's speed functions as a cheat code for the Chiefs offense. With that element gone, defenses don't fear the Chiefs offense anymore.
@@BossRoller yet he was shut down alot this year, so thats not true. Pre Mahomes, Hill still had his speed but wasnt a top 10 WR in the league. Not to mention, Hill is regualrly at the top of the list in drops. He has avg hands and is an avg route runner....his speed coupled with mahomes ability and reid play calling made him great. You dont pay that WR 30 mil a year. In games without Hill, Mahomes is 5-1 and the offense is actually more potent due to not trying to force him the ball so much.
@@stevenh3508 Hill put up nearly 1200 yards and 7TDs in just his 2nd season with Alex Smith at QB. That was 7th in the league in terms of yardage. I think people just assume Hill was just pedestrian before Mahomes but it's not true. Look at his stats. There's a reason why everyone said that Mahomes landed in the ideal situation in KC.
@@BossRoller you just proved my point by having to cherry pick his only stat other than drops that he was top 10 in. He was 7th in the league in yards as the only recieiving option outside of kelce in KC before anyone started double teaming him. Pff had him ranked as a top 15 WR....then Mahomes started and he jumped to a top 6 WR where he has hovered around. Hes never cracked top 5 overall but has always been at the top of the league in drops and been rated a middle of the pack route runner. He has games where he completely goes off and then has games where he completely disappears. Hes a good # 1 that needs another #1 recieving threat as well as a QB that can scramble and throw a good deep ball that has nothing to do with the original route to be a great #1...thats not tua or bridgewater. His speed is what makes him a #1 and as was shown last year can be taken away with the proper coverage. Also, Hill led the league last year in passes to him with a 70% catch percentage that resulted in Int.
KC may not have scored a td in the sb against Tampa but Mahomes DID hit Tyreek Hill right in his Chevy Chase in the end zone, Tyreek let it slip through his hands hit his face mask and fumbled away a chance of being competitive. Just one of a number of huge howlers by Tyreek Hill that have cost KC, Bengals twice, 3 of Mahomes INTs last season etc etc... just sayin'....
Mahomes was finished the minute Russ signed with the Broncos, and look at what else has transpired in the AFC West. The Broncos, Raiders and Chargers have acquired an embarrassment of riches.
I hope DK and/or Lockett joins Russ in Denver.
Russ is a bum
That's Patrick's main weakness. It's hard for him to just dink and dunk his way down the field. He needs to work on his mechanics. That's why he had so many interceptions because he was trying to do the offense that used to work before and teams had figured that out now he's lost his number one receiver. So I see them taking a major step back
How can Mahomes be considered the best QB in the league if it affects him to THAT extent. It isn't as if he's surrounded by scrubs without Hill. He has the best TE in the game, an amazing O-line and good talent at the RB position. If you are the premier QB in the league, that should be enough to elevate the rest of the offense. The truth is that Hill has been Mahomes' crutch and was the most important element of that offense. Hill was the element that other teams feared, moreso than Mahomes.
@@BossRoller everyone knows that to beat mahomes you have to have two high safeties and make them dink and dunk and he was having a lot of trouble doing that last season. Actually that's how the bucks beat them in the super bowl they didn't score touchdown. If you look at his mechanics they're not very good. He can throw deep but he doesn't have the patience to dink and dunk his way all the way down and score.
@@victoranguiano7401 I agree completely. We're going to get a chance to see if Mahomes can adapt to a true pro-style offense without the stress that Hill places on a D. I don't think that's his game but we will find out.
He actually had most of his interceptions off Tyreek Hill drops lol
@@gs3635 lol that is true but he also should have had more interceptions with all the interceptions that defenders dropped lol
Gotta win more than 1 Super Bowl to be considered a Dynasty 🤣
Hill isn’t just a slot guy he’s a nuclear weapon now that’s over
Tyreke was overpaid for what he produced but the Chiefs problem was all the overpaid defensive players that produced nothing.
How was he overpaid when he was their #1 wr playmaker all the while getting doubled/tripled the entire game?
@@byronsmith3152 ikr... the NFL tries to lower the worth of certain positions and raising QB.
This has cussed a problem for them in league where half the QBs including backups or overpaid.
It’s the QB that’s usually overpaid...
Well this may be the dumbest take on here lol
You fail to take into account How honest the Defense has to play when the Cheetah is lined up on the field.
@@PD-qu8dq thats what opposing defenses wanted to do. They dared the Chiefs to run, played cover 2 and the Chiefs couldn't figure out how to beat it.
These guys gave some of the strangest takes I've ever heard. The were speaking like Tyrek was just a guy that was on the roster. The Chiefs get zero rings without him. We'll see how good they are without him.
Pretty good I'd reckon
Marcellus always be telling the truth too early 🤣🤣
People in KC are NOT freaking out about this. This is better for the Chiefs than it is for Miami. Get one #1 receiver with those picks and the rest at that WR position are just fine. Spend the rest on defense. This is the opportunity to balance out this team and slow down those improved offenses in the AFC West.
You obviously haven't been checking out any of the Chiefs podcasts or messageboards. Some of them are on suicide watch.
I think they’re forgetting hill is the most feared player when he has the ball
When I was a kid... I was introduced to the 'water bug.' The water bug could move against the current and was virtually impossible to be caught. THIS is what Tyreek Hill is. Hill is a generational talent. Good luck KC at replacing him.
It’s gonna be some FUN FF Football this year👌✔️
I don't think people realize how fast Hardman is. He's blistering. That's why teams had such a hard time covering both of those speed demons Hill and Hardman. Without Hill They will double hardman. Losing Hill is tremendous, especially since he is responsible for like 2/3s of thier big plays. Everyone acts like his speed is unique, but many lightning fast guys have been in the NFL. Hill is fast and quick. His stop/start and cut ability is what's unparalleled by other current athletes. The guy is lightning in a bottle. But He's not the fastest Ive ever seen in pads. Chris Johnson was faster. So was Don Beebe.
Deebow Samuel is unique and superior versitility. He is also such a beast that he often just runs over, literally, defenders, lol. A QBRunningbackReceiver all rolled into one. Amazing player this season.
Great show! Yep, Andy Reid will be outta there before this trade could pay off. Bad trade KC, Bad!
All 3 of these guys make good points about the Chiefs, they need to evolve in their approach to winning.
Wait, when did KC become a dynasty?? They won one ring lmao. The patriots were a dynasty... Alabama is a dynasty.. KC was (and may still be ) a really talented team, like... unbelievably talented... Doesn't make them a dynasty though.
The Hill disrespect is astounding