The Conjuring: The History of Isla Kastner (The Occultist) | Horror History

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  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 года назад +5224

    I find the fact that she's actually Father Kastner's daughter to be a cool twist. When your own daughter becomes the very culmination of what you hate.

    • @aliciadinar1600
      @aliciadinar1600 2 года назад +180

      Very true but the moment Father Kastner was at the bottom of the stairs when Lauraine met him, there was an ominous feeling. If you're intuitive you knew this meant right away that he is involved in the very crimes they are investigating.

    • @pranavmohata4044
      @pranavmohata4044 2 года назад +30

      ur everywhere just like me

    • @kingbroseph9773
      @kingbroseph9773 2 года назад +7

      why are you here

    • @erpmo3326
      @erpmo3326 2 года назад +42

      MY PASTOR UNCLE'S DAUGHTER IS AN ATHEIST LESBIAN

    • @dragonrider4339
      @dragonrider4339 2 года назад +11

      Dam i was like number 666 ✝️🙏🏻 Scary to see after viewing the video i become like number 666 😂🤣🤷🏻‍♂️ Ah well… Demons wont posses me.. Maybe cause i like really really fast metal music.. or maybe cause im an italian they dont want to mess with someone like me.. 😂🤣🇺🇸🇮🇹🤙🏻John Gotti watches over me..

  • @4X3MEDIA
    @4X3MEDIA 2 года назад +3654

    I like the idea that Isla was afraid of her own undoing and failure to finish the curse, and the demon chose to appear as her for that reason. Kind of like how Valak takes the form of the nun to torment Lorraine and Irene, which really makes you wonder if this may be our good friend Valak popping in

    • @OxOx_XoXo1
      @OxOx_XoXo1 2 года назад +179

      *good friend*

    • @a7x_nomadiceagle482
      @a7x_nomadiceagle482 2 года назад +85

      My mind has been blown, thats rlly likely actually

    • @frozen_eyes25
      @frozen_eyes25 2 года назад +64

      I guess I can see that... but honestly, I was hoping g to see the actual version of the demon.

    • @gregglira9947
      @gregglira9947 2 года назад +106

      I got the same vibe based on Valak eye colors

    • @KristenKras
      @KristenKras 2 года назад +13

      TBH, I've heard the Warrens made a lot of stuff up and they did make money from certain cases, at least that is what I read. One is the real story of the Conjuring, absolute baloney the film is, nothing like the real story. Also, the family ended up getting pretty peeved off by the Warrens.

  • @Beximuzy
    @Beximuzy Год назад +1151

    While the real Ed and Lorraine Warren were a very controversial couple, I absolutely adore their fictionalized selves. The love that stands strong is just so sweet

    • @Beximuzy
      @Beximuzy Год назад +1

      @whoa_Nelly while they may have been true believers in their psychic and exorcist abilities, there is definitely elements of preying on people in vulnerable moments and manipulating the truth about their "investigations" The Warrens are alleged to have greatly exaggerated the cases or straight up lying about them.

    • @LyraDavis
      @LyraDavis Год назад

      @whoa_Nellymaybe because they were manipulative, money grabbing con artists who capitalised on people’s misfortunes?

    • @showyouhowtopartyright42069
      @showyouhowtopartyright42069 Год назад +101

      @10 foot didgeridoo idk about Lorraine but Ed was known to be an abusive pos predator

    • @sushihater
      @sushihater Год назад +10

      @@showyouhowtopartyright42069😦

    • @iambatman7190
      @iambatman7190 Год назад

      ​@@showyouhowtopartyright42069allegedly. I haven't seen anything from a legit good source. Do you have a source or did you just read a title to an article trying to get the conjuring movies cancelled.

  • @bcbabbles
    @bcbabbles 9 месяцев назад +114

    I feel like Lorraine's power in this movie is heavily understated. I mean, the fact that she was able to use her gift to forcibly interrupt and block Isla's spell is pretty cool. She almost crosses the boundary of being a psychic into a near mystic herself.

  • @walpurgisnight7
    @walpurgisnight7 Год назад +400

    Isla's mostly calm demeanor is way more intimidating than the rage of other demons in the film universe.

    • @JoyBoy0606
      @JoyBoy0606 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah definitely

    • @razrv3lc
      @razrv3lc 2 месяца назад +1

      This is why I like the third movie so much. She’s scarier than the other ones lol

  • @anthonylara5784
    @anthonylara5784 2 года назад +394

    “You promised a demon a soul and he can’t return to hell without one” that scene hit different in theaters 😂

  • @sandraaa8496
    @sandraaa8496 2 года назад +623

    I loooove how the video just starts instantly. I don’t mind intros or sponsors but it’s so refreshing & satisfying to have the content begin immediately and lead into the intro like you did here. I have such a short attention span, I’ll unfairly click off videos after getting bored a couple mins in. This is how you get my ADD brain to stay in tune 😂

    • @Tekillyah
      @Tekillyah 2 года назад +12

      Have you played Raid Shadow Legends?

    • @sandraaa8496
      @sandraaa8496 2 года назад +3

      @@Tekillyah omg nooooo lol you just had to go there 😂

    • @Jason.cbr1000rr
      @Jason.cbr1000rr 2 года назад

      @@sandraaa8496 lool how old are you? You look to old to even type/write and even talk like that 🤣 AND you play fortnite.... thats impossible. I just camt see a .... 30 year old woman doing those haha 😄

    • @zodiacqueen4523
      @zodiacqueen4523 2 года назад +1

      I have ADD too. See where your coming from.

    • @zodiacqueen4523
      @zodiacqueen4523 2 года назад

      Nope.

  • @icekamus78
    @icekamus78 2 года назад +1663

    Love Horror History. Also to point out, going along with the theme of growing up in isolation, her name is derived from the word island, and in Spanish Isla literally means island.

    • @gawkgawk1000
      @gawkgawk1000 2 года назад +5

      "Going along with the theme of growing up in isolation" that line makes no sense.

    • @icekamus78
      @icekamus78 2 года назад +44

      @@gawkgawk1000 don't worry about it, CZ understood it.

    • @gawkgawk1000
      @gawkgawk1000 2 года назад

      @@icekamus78 idk man. It only irritates me not worrying me.

    • @freneticgamer4174
      @freneticgamer4174 2 года назад +47

      @@gawkgawk1000 According to him, she grew up alone and that was a core theme of her story. How does that not make sense?

    • @samhaines8228
      @samhaines8228 2 года назад +6

      good catch!

  • @ultramusiq5507
    @ultramusiq5507 2 года назад +153

    when Isla told Lorraine her God has dammed her, I think she meant her gift also opened a doorway, that someone she wasn't protected, but what Isla failed to realised is that Lorraine has a unique gift.

    • @brandondaniels9471
      @brandondaniels9471 Год назад +8

      Never saw it that way before. That's a VERY interesting point bc Isla's statement wasn't really explained in the movie.

    • @davypuppy
      @davypuppy 4 месяца назад +4

      personally I took it as “You can see me and control the things around me, I can also see and control the things around you.”

  • @DylanleeStott
    @DylanleeStott 2 года назад +484

    Going be honest, I absolutely love horror history although I've barely watched any of the films these characters are in but every HH video I still clock in and watch.

    • @LaurenHayley16
      @LaurenHayley16 2 года назад +6

      Hey! Me too! I’ve probably seen like 1 out of every 10 movies he talks about…

    • @kfactor20
      @kfactor20 2 года назад

      You should watch them, they're all mostly pretty good

    • @stay_my
      @stay_my Год назад +2

      samee i get scared super easily but i enjoy horror lore as long as i dont have to see it 😭

    • @valenciageode25
      @valenciageode25 3 дня назад

      Same here. I watch so much content about horror and so little horror.

  • @the_glitter_is
    @the_glitter_is Год назад +33

    Can we all stop & take a moment to appreciate this youtuber for having ads in appropriate places so they dont interrupt?

  • @TheGreekPianist
    @TheGreekPianist 2 года назад +634

    I actually find Isla a very terrifying and dangerous villain in The Conjurverse since she’s a human!

    • @spoilty
      @spoilty Год назад

      And also because she is malnourished

    • @Nobodylikesanarutorunninazzlib
      @Nobodylikesanarutorunninazzlib Год назад +13

      Yeah she gave me trauma💀💀

    • @Siile_
      @Siile_ Год назад +6

      Creepy as hell for sure

    • @chegrikshira8121
      @chegrikshira8121 4 месяца назад +4

      A human who knows magic(black magic)
      They are pure evil, truly terrifying n deadly...in my life i have seen a person(victim of black magic)..my oh my! What a terrifying experience that was to see it with my own eyes... beleive me guys u will not want to see how the victim suffered n endured,it was horrific n terrifying..

  • @BryceEdwardBrown
    @BryceEdwardBrown 2 года назад +858

    Yes, more conjuring videos. Bring in the conjuring videos!!!! Conjuring videos!

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  2 года назад +134

      OK deal

    • @eljay2224
      @eljay2224 2 года назад +3

      Could you do a terminator one bro?

    • @charfree6888
      @charfree6888 2 года назад +7

      Yow, bro. Can you say "conjuring videos" one more time?

    • @craycray8098
      @craycray8098 2 года назад +10

      You could say he's conjuring videos

    • @msmoonshine7225
      @msmoonshine7225 2 года назад

      Yesss moreee

  • @kingdomofnerdz1497
    @kingdomofnerdz1497 2 года назад +1492

    I didn't expect this video to be that long, as we didn't get much lore behind Isla, but you did very good!

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  2 года назад +203

      We had to dig for this one.

    • @kingdomofnerdz1497
      @kingdomofnerdz1497 2 года назад +21

      @@CZsWorld I'd say you did a damn good job :)

    • @HunterEQGtribute
      @HunterEQGtribute 2 года назад +11

      @@CZsWorld amazing. You are a horror lore genius CZ! Keep up the amazing and horrific work. We will survive forever. 😈

    • @perraru
      @perraru 2 года назад +3

      @CZsWorld we appreciate it!

    • @strikingmachine2975
      @strikingmachine2975 2 года назад +3

      @@CZsWorld the most recent Cult is the M andatory V a c c ine Cult :P

  • @jenna6082
    @jenna6082 2 года назад +141

    He was so worried about the occult, but not worried about owning up to having a child and giving her as good a life as possible in that situation .
    I knew a man who always brought homeless people in to help them. It turns out he was molesting his daughters.
    Some people get so caught up in these outward things and don’t focus on just being a decent human being to the people who most heavily rely on him. The man I knew was so into praise for helping the homeless, but was an actual monster behind closed doors.
    This priest was too wrapped up in studying the Occult, and not in actually taking care of his kid.

    • @Vor567tez
      @Vor567tez 2 года назад +4

      Yeah but I think his research on cult might hv paranoid him to take extreme measure. He somewhere thought he is keeping his daughter safe afterall he actually cares for her.

    • @candicefrost4561
      @candicefrost4561 Год назад +7

      Lots of child molesters know how to hide well by making themselves look to good to be capable of horrible things in case their victims come forward.

  • @monroerobbins7551
    @monroerobbins7551 2 года назад +77

    The fact that Arnie was so willing to take spirit from David just added the extra twinge of tragedy to this.

  • @johnecoapollo7
    @johnecoapollo7 2 года назад +676

    The Conjuring 3 was mediocre compared to some of the first entries into the series but by God, the Demon scene gave me legitimate goosebumps. Silence with only the steps as a sign of its arrival, a face that's the definition of the uncanny valley, dispatching her with a single move of its hand.
    It perfectly encapsulated the nature of the evil that the characters face through these movies. Powerful entities that care little for others as long as they get what they want and they win in some way or another every time, the Warrens being able only to contain them for a little while.

    • @OxOx_XoXo1
      @OxOx_XoXo1 2 года назад +33

      but conjuring 3 was the realistic.

    • @ultramusiq5507
      @ultramusiq5507 2 года назад +20

      They also cut out many scenes from the movie, what we saw in the trailer and what saw in the movie, didn't add up.

    • @UselessCardboardbox957
      @UselessCardboardbox957 2 года назад +2

      @@ultramusiq5507 true I think 2&1 we're good

    • @monroerobbins7551
      @monroerobbins7551 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, I feel like certain things could’ve been done better, but I do feel they emphasized less on family, and more on love like romance or intimate bonds like a spouse. It was warded off by love, it went after a kid through his girlfriend, and got ammunition through his insecurities about his relationship, so it makes sense thematically. But the fact that it was so different from the other Conjuring Movies, as well as emphasizing on something that’s seen as admittedly more sappy, may’ve taken away from the whole horror, if that makes sense. But they did compensate in the scary moments, it just wasn’t enough, IMO. That’s just my opinion, though, I’m not trying to say it’s good or bad. Edit: Though I do wish they kept the rules consistent. The dust blowing, the possession of corpses, etcetera, I feel it was too much rule flexing, IMO. Effective filmography, but lore wise it was pushing it.

    • @Zarastro54
      @Zarastro54 2 года назад +1

      @@OxOx_XoXo1 It was the least realistic imo.

  • @usmanmazhar6208
    @usmanmazhar6208 2 года назад +73

    "the malnourished lady was also malnourished from love" LOL THIS....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @sabastianravenoak3811
    @sabastianravenoak3811 2 года назад +243

    Quick note. The dust was probably Devils breath. Real life drug and creepy asf. Look it up it's both cool and terrifying

    • @pennyp6125
      @pennyp6125 2 года назад +4

      Commonly used by drs back in the day.

    • @joebridger3339
      @joebridger3339 Год назад

      Yes, either that or Goofer Dust, which was a plot point in an X-Files episode en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theef

    • @Feedyourchickens
      @Feedyourchickens Год назад +3

      @@joebridger3339supernatural too

  • @bori16
    @bori16 2 года назад +317

    The powder blown from her hand was probably “devil’s breath” which is a drug believed to put people into a zombie like or suggestible state. If you use conjuring universe rules, it would make sense that she’s able to control Ed with it. 🙂

    • @nicbrandt6259
      @nicbrandt6259 Год назад +2

      I don’t think she was controlling him jsut that the powder made him go crazy

    • @OscarStensballe
      @OscarStensballe Год назад +1

      I know I'm late, but how the hell is she going to get her hands on a street-drug from Columbia? :-P

    • @MiguelGarcia-tg2km
      @MiguelGarcia-tg2km 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@OscarStensballe My best guess is that Isla either got the stuff by supernatural means or learned how to make the stuff herself.

  • @willmillwood5512
    @willmillwood5512 2 года назад +9

    Eugenie Bondurant aka “The Occultist” was my acting instructor for many years. Wonderful person and I still remember nervously asking her about the Elite Acting Studio in St. Pete, FL & how to get in. She helped me get in to Andi Matheny’s Acting Studio. Didn’t even hardly know me, but helped me. This was after she was Tigris in Hunger Games.
    Wonderful & Sweet Woman. Extremely talented Singer, as well.
    I remember telling her and Andi I was moving to Atlanta and she gave me the best hug!!! I am 6’4” and she is almost my height. I admire this woman.
    Also, Patrick Wilson is from the same area. I worked at a local news station in Tampa where his dad worked & brother works now and I asked him for advice and he told me to get into Theatre. Which I did and I’ve been in the acting game for 8 years and still going strong.
    It’s awesome to see people you know personally in Blockbuster movies.

  • @suhanisharma1812
    @suhanisharma1812 2 года назад +102

    The fact that he keeps cracking jokes on her malnourishment is too good 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and he says it with no experssion is just oil in the fire 😂😂😂😂

  • @CTuna-uo3pq
    @CTuna-uo3pq 2 года назад +15

    Couldn't sleep last night so I turned on utube and this video came on. After 3 of your videos I passed out and had some of the worst nightmares in a long time. Great videos. There's a reason other tubers are stealing your videos shot for shot.

  • @vaibhavsoni9667
    @vaibhavsoni9667 2 года назад +56

    *SPOILER ALERT*⚠️
    Man, I wish we could discuss personally about this lesson before you put the video...
    Coz there are many things you didn't know about. I requested cz last time on the malthus or valak one, that make one on Isla and include the comics part.. but maybe, he didn't see that Comment.
    Ok so, DC released a comic series on The Conjuring as The Conjuring : The Lover, explaining that it's all about the Lover part of the curse, which Isla targeted much before the child, David.
    This comic goes with the story of Jessica, and how she died due to the curse. So, DEFINITELY, Jessica is the Lover.
    In the last comic, issue 5 of the series, there is the backstory of Isla set in west Germany, 1951, matten abbey, near czechoslovakian border. Here, Isla worked in a library. Also, the Librarian was a strict head of a cult full of witches. She had the chalice in her possession which Isla stole from her, after murdering her. This is the same chalice she uses in her rituals.
    So, we find that Isla already left her father in 1951, however he has her photo from 1952, so maybe she came back to meet his father. But as father says, she disappeared later. I don't think that she would try going back to germany again. So, she most probably disappeared in the tunnels and lived there for years. That's the reason why father already knows where she is or else why would he say to Lorraine that she is in the tunnels and send her there?
    Next, in between the comics, Isla meets Jessica in person and brings her to an isolated room in a library full of books about witchcraft, referencing to the source where she knew more about the curse and it's processes. This library would most probably be the same one in Germany, and as we know, Isla makes people see things and she had already started controlling Jessica halfway through her curse that time.
    Explaining the knowledge of that exotic curse from around Europe.
    Next, Isla's curse never take full control of a person until its been long. It's like as the time passes the curse gets stronger and it's easier to control the target, especially if the target is emotionally weakened. Thus, through the process, Isla does several things to torment its targets and makes them feel weak. Like Ed feels very angered (and weakened) when he (is made) feel that he couldn't protect his house and family from an invader, that too, Isla herself, their enemy. Thus he gets possessed in the end and Lorraine strengthens him by saying those things.
    In Jessica's case, she is already emotionally broken due to her lesbian sexuality and social abuse. But she ends up going against the curse fighting Isla emotionally and Isla has to convince her hard enough so that she commits suicide. It's a long scene at the cliff in the comic.
    Everytime we see Isla controlling someone, it's at that point of time when the person is emotionally weakened.
    Also, Each targeted person needs to perform, as you called it, step 1 of the curse. I.e., each person needs to murder another human and then commit suicide, which is very clear with Jessica. David was the child but arne took his curse over himself, the child one curse now acts upon Arne. So, Arne murders his landlord and tries to commit suicide at the end. Also, Ed tries to murder Lorraine at the warrens residence, coz he was the man of God.
    Second time, Ed is just possesed by Isla to stop him from ruining her curse, with that powder.
    So folks, that was the comment version of my horror history, explanation, faq and everything episode.
    I know nobody would read such a long comment, still I hope one day cz would see this and respond.

    • @vaibhavsoni9667
      @vaibhavsoni9667 2 года назад

      @Lari Nongsiej we can discuss... :)

    • @janentshileleni6766
      @janentshileleni6766 2 года назад +1

      I read the whole thing and it kinda make sense to me

    • @vaibhavsoni9667
      @vaibhavsoni9667 2 года назад

      @@janentshileleni6766 ha! At least someone...

    • @vaibhavsoni9667
      @vaibhavsoni9667 2 года назад

      @Lari Nongsiej lol I wonder how do you reply mentally. Haha, interesting. Well, actually, I'm too obsessed with the storylines of TCU ig.

  • @ashleighstratmann7783
    @ashleighstratmann7783 Год назад +73

    Since you seem to enjoy doing videos on witchcraft and Paranormal, CZsWorld, I got just the topics for you to cover: Tobi from the Paranormal Activity Franchise as well as the Witches from the Midwife Occult (that way you can include the Marked Ones in the timeline since the witches tied to Tobi is largely involved in the Marked Ones). Possibly even videos on Kristie and Katie, the two sisters that like Tobi, tied the franchise together.

    • @mroutdaway216_5
      @mroutdaway216_5 Год назад +1

      Good one

    • @ashleighstratmann7783
      @ashleighstratmann7783 Год назад

      @@mroutdaway216_5 Thanks.

    • @ashleighstratmann7783
      @ashleighstratmann7783 Год назад +4

      It should be noted Tobi isn't the demon's real name that's just what the caracters refer him as. His real name is Asmodius one of the Princes of Hell which ties Next of Kin to the Franchise as that's what they called the demon in it. Although if you ask me it might be that Next of Kin is some form of requel that avoids Ghost Dimension (and possibly Marked ones with the portals and time travel stuff also being in it) so Toby never got his physical body.
      Although if you ask me, those portals might do more than time travel but also cross the multiverse into other universes which would explain where Tobi been in the first four movies and why in Ghost Dimension Katie and Kristie was trained in the paranormal and supposedly died in the fire instead of surviving it. I think it ties Marked Ones as well since we see Katie and Kristie as children with black eyes and the ending Hector time traveling to the ending of the first movie.

  • @jillkcalia
    @jillkcalia 2 года назад +58

    I don’t like horror movies, I don’t like to be scared even, but I absolutely love your videos and content. I love a good timeline and I love all the background information and lore that you put into understanding the universe is in which these horror stories take place. Keep up the good work

    • @kgomezmontantes9789
      @kgomezmontantes9789 Год назад +1

      Me too, couldn't have said it better myself. Here is a 🏆 for this comment.

  • @emansayeddd
    @emansayeddd 2 года назад +260

    In 19:59 when Isla blows magic dust into Ed’s face to control him, I used to like thinking that it was the recreational drug, devil’s breath, which is some odourless white powder that makes the taker become obedient to the person that gave it to them, thought it was sort of fitting to the situation haha

    • @MrMaike3009
      @MrMaike3009 2 года назад +15

      There's such a thing ? Damn human beings are scary

    • @imjustapancake3188
      @imjustapancake3188 2 года назад +2

      @@MrMaike3009 oh yeah, it’s been around for a while

    • @KimmySaurusRex44
      @KimmySaurusRex44 2 года назад

      @@MrMaike3009 yeah its a real thing, the technical term.for it is scopalamine, and it's naturally occurring. In a certain type of flower. I remember watching a documentary about it being used on people to Rob them. Scary stuff.

    • @girleyreds11-11
      @girleyreds11-11 2 года назад +3

      My husband keeps avoiding 2 projects at my house...where can I get this powder at...!!!??? Lol

    • @jaeboogie2786
      @jaeboogie2786 2 года назад +3

      I know its plentiful in Rio and most surrounding area. One blow and in about 10 minutes you can convince a stranger into signing over their car, go ATM to ATM giving you all their money or even commit horrible crimes. And the victim looks and acts like a normal sober person. But the real kicker is when they wake up the next day they don't remember a single thing and I mean nothing after the dust hit their face. Scary shit folks, be kind and be careful.

  • @einnarmendoza806
    @einnarmendoza806 2 года назад +25

    "By the blood of Calvary I command it" most powerful scene so far

  • @Anonymous-gq4gq
    @Anonymous-gq4gq 2 года назад +226

    I always love seeing Conjuring Videos! When you can, is it possible to do a HH for Janice/Annabelle Higgins? She’s definitely one of the pretty interesting villains in the Conjuring universe.

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  2 года назад +49

      I've thought about it, but haven't yet because I'm afraid of it being similar to Malthus.

    • @NigerianHandles
      @NigerianHandles 2 года назад +2

      @@CZsWorld guess what......chicken butt

  • @aurorawalsh8937
    @aurorawalsh8937 Год назад +6

    16:17 i love those parts when she screams and speaks angryly to an entity or whatever, it gives her so much power, in my opnion

  • @andrewmichael651
    @andrewmichael651 2 года назад +26

    My friend, your conjuring and insidious videos are simply the best!
    More conjuring videos!! Thumbs up all around !!🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @bryansierra0909
    @bryansierra0909 2 года назад +82

    Nice video, but you forgot to talk about Father Kastner’s other children, Boromir and Faramir.
    After his eldest son Boromir went to an expedition to a volcano and died halfway there, Father Kastner went insane and sent his youngest son Faramir to his death but Faramir returned alive (barely) and in his depression and delusion he tried to burn Faramir alive, but failed.
    After that he tried to kill himself but failed and ended up in USA as Father Kastner.

    • @Hiihtopipa
      @Hiihtopipa 2 года назад +5

      Yeah, surprised he looks so good. He took a pretty long dive after all

    • @morganlivers9912
      @morganlivers9912 2 года назад +4

      What he has other kids? I thought it was just Isla cause of the photos in the movie. I didn't see other kids, might be wrong

    • @bryansierra0909
      @bryansierra0909 2 года назад +9

      @@morganlivers9912 I’m referencing The Lord of The Rings. He is in it, he has 2 sons in LOTR.

    • @morganlivers9912
      @morganlivers9912 2 года назад +1

      @BryanSerria oh ok thanks for explaining. It makes more sense now

    • @AkiTerry
      @AkiTerry 2 года назад +5

      @@Hiihtopipa He was stage diving & fortunately some orcs caught him.
      Great performance, he was on fire that day 😀

  • @chloecalver2117
    @chloecalver2117 2 года назад +25

    The research and work you put into your videos. Thank you for your awesome analysis. I am a big fan.

  • @orchidrose1410
    @orchidrose1410 2 года назад +189

    I never understood what this “curse” was supposed to do. Does anyone know? Was it supposed to make her immortal? Powerful? I don’t remember them explaining that in the movie.

    • @siddhuzplace3737
      @siddhuzplace3737 2 года назад +9

      Same....

    • @OxOx_XoXo1
      @OxOx_XoXo1 2 года назад +11

      @@Leon_the_wildcat correct answer

    • @GenericCommenter-by4zi
      @GenericCommenter-by4zi 2 года назад +38

      @@Leon_the_wildcat I do mostly agree with you but I also think she did this to get back at her Father by working for the very thing he fights against to make him feel guilty

    • @saswatisamanta6613
      @saswatisamanta6613 2 года назад +18

      She wanted to summon a demon, that's why
      She believed that summoning the demon would honour her

    • @orchidrose1410
      @orchidrose1410 2 года назад +2

      @@Leon_the_wildcat oh! Yeah, yeah, yeah! That was it, now I remember!! Thanks ❤️👍❤️

  • @siddhuzplace3737
    @siddhuzplace3737 2 года назад +457

    I laughed everytime when u say 'The malnourished lady'😂
    Btw amazing analysis!
    I wanted to ask why did Isla put a curse on these people, was it only because she wanted to offer a soul to the devil?
    Or she hates Ed and Lorrain (She obviously does).

    • @vaibhavsoni9667
      @vaibhavsoni9667 2 года назад +35

      She wanted to be more powerful than a normal witch. She was introduced to warrens in between her ritual.

    • @Juno-nw9cw
      @Juno-nw9cw 2 года назад +16

      Well, we dont know because the movie itself doesnt explained it.

    • @vaibhavsoni9667
      @vaibhavsoni9667 2 года назад +5

      @@Juno-nw9cw but, father kastner already said in the movie, the only reason these occult people do such things Is chaos. So, that's all we know.

    • @Juno-nw9cw
      @Juno-nw9cw 2 года назад +15

      @@vaibhavsoni9667 Yeah, but not isla. We dont know what her 'real' motive, why her victim our protagonist 😭

    • @noor_tasheel_ahmed
      @noor_tasheel_ahmed Год назад +1

      @@Juno-nw9cw "The soul that has conceived one wickedness can nurse no good thereafter"- Sophocles,
      its as simple as that

  • @ny-tylekker4972
    @ny-tylekker4972 2 года назад +12

    Cz love your content bro appreciate all the time to gather all the information available and give it us your followers its amazing

  • @icewarriorr
    @icewarriorr Год назад +13

    Why did I only find this channel today? That’s an amazing analysis!
    Also, I have a theory for those who were wondering what would Isla gain from this, or why couldn’t have Isla used Arne to complete her list of souls to be offered:
    Looking at the flow of the movie, it looks like the curse’s powers are conditioned, where each time she uses it to possess someone, it has to follow the “murder then suicide” pattern, meaning each time she uses it to her advantage, it in turn claims something back from her, in this case, her killing “vessel”. It probably gets its power from a willful sacrifice of one “hell-bound” (which I talked about below) soul. If that’s the case, after Arne murders Bruno from the curse, it’ll first complete its turn claiming Arne’s soul before Isla can use it again.
    Talking about Isla’s motives, I feel the demon Isla wants to summon ultimately wants to claim hell-bound souls that is offered on will aka the “suicide”, and Isla’s job is help it reach its goal by leading people to “murder” an innocent, which theologically speaking, will essentially rip them off their right to live and will be annihilated by the second death. Or in other words, hell-bound.
    I feel Isla, at the heights of her obsession, had ignorantly awakened some sealed off demon, and inadvertently lost her soul to it, and it used her as a vessel to wield its weapon, which is the curse, to continue from where it stopped. This explains why in the end, Isla is killed when she actually acts upon her own will to use her powers to kill the Warrens, by a killer that looked like herself. That’s when she sees the demon’s true colors, and how powerless she was in reality. The demon already has full control of her, and she was only serving its interests all along while she thought it’s increasing her own power to do what she wills. Therefore, the movie’s angle of omitting focus on what Isla gains from this is reflective of the one fact: she isn’t truly gaining anything, the demon used her weakness against herself and tricked her to give it what it wants, and the moment she’s of no use to it, the demon discarded her. Though we’ll never know why the specific people in the movie were chosen for this in the first place.
    Thanks for reading this far ;)

  • @ir2264
    @ir2264 2 года назад +17

    Dust is an easy way in folklore for witches to curse or possess another. Grinding up the dirt of a grave amongst other ingredients. It does make sense as a method, especially with all the symbolism with the eyes and soul.

  • @sebastien4908
    @sebastien4908 11 месяцев назад +22

    Fun fact: most Satanists don't worship Satan, and don't actually believe that he's real, they view him as a metaphor

    • @VCanDefeatYou
      @VCanDefeatYou 4 месяца назад +7

      There are two kinds of Satanism, LaVeyan, and Theistic,
      Theistic Satanists believe in his existence, LaVeyan ones think of him as a metaphor for free will, and willingness to punish the ignorant and evil

    • @NotoriousD_M_C
      @NotoriousD_M_C 2 месяца назад +1

      Tell me you hate your father without telling me you hate your father.

  • @quaviolewisjriii3756
    @quaviolewisjriii3756 2 года назад +4

    So good to see u working again I been a fan of yours since your Kevin McCallister days.

  • @jossettehernanddez3697
    @jossettehernanddez3697 2 года назад +17

    I’m a new fan and I’m really loving these documentaries and wanted to say thanks for all the hard work @CZsWorld

  • @skunke2290
    @skunke2290 2 года назад +95

    I believe the demon could still be from the Ars Goethia. The Symbol you used as the picture in the horror history classroom looks a lot like an A. And there are a bunch of demons from the goethia who’s names begin with A. Examples being Amy, Andrius and Andromalius. I believe this demon could be one of these and in that case I hope to see a future film about it!

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  2 года назад +25

      That's just the A symbol from the movie Annabelle. It could be a demon for Ars Goetia but we don't know anything about it.

  • @joannierice7435
    @joannierice7435 2 года назад +13

    I love these videos!!!!, Can u please do more? Thank u for all of ur research and ur time that u take to do all of this. Ur one of my favorite RUclipsrs.

  • @itsmeliza3700
    @itsmeliza3700 8 месяцев назад +2

    I dont know why, but Ive been addicted to your videos for the past view weeks

  • @koolkat3432
    @koolkat3432 2 года назад +3

    stumbled upon this channel and am so glad I did. subscribed and very excited to binge all your videos !

  • @Kroggnagch
    @Kroggnagch Год назад +2

    Dude.. i JUST discovered your channel. I am upset that I’ve not known of it sooner, but glad I found it now.

  • @paulpoumet773
    @paulpoumet773 2 года назад +64

    She would be an interesting DnD character, like a fiend warlock half-elfe daughter of a human cleric of Lathander who spent his whole life exterminating a demonic cult of Orcus.

    • @likeAflamingo-i2e
      @likeAflamingo-i2e 2 года назад +1

      ....if I ever play another dnd session, this really seems lile a fun character to use!

  • @BrocktonLazarus3397
    @BrocktonLazarus3397 2 года назад +2

    Finally you made this! I've been waiting for one on Isla the Occultist

  • @samwalkzzyt7469
    @samwalkzzyt7469 2 года назад +14

    When watching this, I always thought Ed could have used some Occulemency classes in Hogwarts to keep Isla out of his mind.

  • @simonkelly1410
    @simonkelly1410 4 месяца назад +1

    I keep coming back to your videos, love them. So much!!!

  • @gavvo-7640
    @gavvo-7640 2 года назад +6

    Awesome horror history Zac! I did find Conjuring 3 a bit confusing at times but you have made sense of the whole plot! Nice 1 man! Love your channel btw :)

  • @gingersnapps
    @gingersnapps Год назад +2

    I just came across this channel and i love it!! You put alot of good information in these videos that helps me understand the movies i love even better ❤

  • @michaelscottoriginal
    @michaelscottoriginal 2 года назад +6

    CZ you never disappoint. The wait was worth it. With your wry humor and attention to detail, this video seemed short.
    PS. Hope you had a blast during SB. I am assuming you were a fan so you held off the release of this vid?

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  2 года назад +2

      I'm a Bears fan but it was more that I didn't want to compete with the Super Bowl for viewership.

    • @michaelscottoriginal
      @michaelscottoriginal 2 года назад

      @@CZsWorld oh yeah, that makes sense.

  • @jenniferthorne2964
    @jenniferthorne2964 Год назад +1

    I'm loving all these vidoes.. you earned another subscriber!!

  • @shardascarapace9811
    @shardascarapace9811 2 года назад +12

    My biggest mind flip is that John Noble also acted as Denethor in Lord of the Rings, who is one of the more recognizable side characters in that movie since he literally goes insane and throws himself off of a building 😅 Fun times

  • @motherofhounds3837
    @motherofhounds3837 Год назад +1

    Wow! This channel is so good! Where have I been? Marathon starts now!!

  • @elliem6396
    @elliem6396 2 года назад +14

    Hey, I was wondering if you had something in the works about the continuation of the purge franchise? I was interested in your opinion on it as well as how you think the franchise continued with this new film and if it took into consideration any inspiration from the Purge series? Maybe even a new updated timeline? Love your videos keep up the great work!

  • @Pewpewpew182
    @Pewpewpew182 2 года назад +25

    I thought they could of done so much more with her.

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  2 года назад +19

      She might be the only one not to get her own spin-off.

    • @Pewpewpew182
      @Pewpewpew182 2 года назад +3

      @@CZsWorld
      Agreed. (Besides her death)
      She was pretty interesting, just the film was okay.
      Wanted to say thank you for such an amazing channel!

    • @sp00kyg1rl
      @sp00kyg1rl 2 года назад +1

      @@CZsWorld should one be worried to have a child named Isla? 🤣🤣
      Omg hahaha

  • @dorianxanyn
    @dorianxanyn 2 года назад +16

    You explained the story way better than the movie did

    • @brandondaniels9471
      @brandondaniels9471 Год назад +2

      He explained it so well that I actually thought Isla was based upon someone IRL

  • @saikhmfa
    @saikhmfa 2 года назад +1

    omg ive been waitin for this tysm 😭😭

  • @mirandasalazar8935
    @mirandasalazar8935 2 года назад +3

    I was having the worst day... thank you for giving me something else to think about.

  • @aysiskyle9458
    @aysiskyle9458 2 года назад +1

    I binged all your vids before even the music vid you had awhile back and I have been waiting to return for more and you still have great content ❤️👋

  • @alexmunroe5473
    @alexmunroe5473 Год назад +4

    First off let me clarify on topics that I am familiar with. Witchcraft, which could be linked to most occults in those times, could be what Isla is using in here. Most of the questions that you have in this video like how Isla controls Ed Warren at the end and other similar questions can be answered by looking at her Altar and her powers. If you notice she is a devout practictioner of witchcraft. In some of the basic spells of witchcraft you can control a person and make them do a lot of things by the combination of certain herbs mixed together and burnt and using their ashes. These ashes need to be inside a person to work and since she makes him inhale them it works. Also another popular method is adding them to food.

  • @andrewc1015
    @andrewc1015 2 года назад +11

    This character is so interesting and fascinating for me. The origin, process, and climax is interesting. I love how she become an occultist because of her dad's researches in Satanism.

  • @KingaKucyk
    @KingaKucyk 2 года назад +14

    "The malnourished lady" damn that fits so much XDDDDDD would You mind exploring Lanie Bouchard's story from "The Birch"? 💖🌳

  • @Austin53095
    @Austin53095 2 года назад +2

    Great video CZ I was waiting for this video . I really enjoyed , the devil made me do it .

  • @cityrat3237
    @cityrat3237 Год назад +3

    To me the demon that Isla was gonna summon has to be one of the most strongest ones, it requires a very complicated summoning that is really hard to pull off more then then Valak and the one attached to Annabelle. Also it’s one of the few demons ever shown to not go crazy over it being sabotage. It’s very calm and collected and didn’t even care for Ed and Lorraine being there. Valak and the one attached to Annabelle would of tried something or go crazy on Ed an lorrain but this demon was very calculated. Leading me to believe it’s one of the highest ranking ones who just knows it doesn’t need to attack, yet.

  • @xxblack_cloverxxerror5778
    @xxblack_cloverxxerror5778 2 года назад +4

    Idk if i was the only one to think of this (I probably wasent) but if you look closely at the demons eyes its glowing yellow so it might be that Isla tried to re-summon Valak. It would also make a little sense because Valak was the main villain of the conjuring series for a while.

  • @samhaines8228
    @samhaines8228 2 года назад +4

    CZ, you artfully illuminate the characters & lore of your subjects~ Very insightful, thorough & entertaining!

  • @shinobukocho3459
    @shinobukocho3459 2 года назад +8

    This guy never fails to scare the living sh*t out of me 🤧

  • @Hi-NuAetherling
    @Hi-NuAetherling 2 года назад +8

    Never underestimate the power of pocket sand.

  • @renamon5658
    @renamon5658 2 года назад +7

    Once the crooked man conjuring movie comes out. Please do the horror history of the crooked man

  • @bomos94
    @bomos94 2 года назад +4

    Even if I don’t like the subject matter I still watch your videos because of the style and quality

  • @honestro1388
    @honestro1388 2 года назад +1

    I love your channel setup and your videos are so professional and entertaining. 😄 great work!

  • @truegrit7697
    @truegrit7697 2 года назад +9

    The narrator looks like he's a direct relative of Isla. GREAT video - wonderfully detailed!

    • @lesazwane
      @lesazwane 2 года назад

      Especially with that outfit

    • @stolenart9290
      @stolenart9290 2 года назад

      It's funny that he calls her malnourished lady.

  • @hey_michelleb
    @hey_michelleb 2 года назад +2

    NEEDED THIS today 🙌 thank you 🙏

  • @epiprany
    @epiprany 2 года назад +4

    I really want you to make a video about the Medium. It’s a Thai and Korean horror movie but more toward exorcism. It is full of theories, complicated messages, and rituals that I would love to hear 😭 If you don’t want to make a video out of it, it’s fine 😅

  • @DowntownTasty
    @DowntownTasty Год назад +2

    I’m sorry but those clips of Charles Manson speaking gibberish in court make me laugh so fucking hard lmao

  • @sparklight0964
    @sparklight0964 2 года назад +4

    You calling her the malnourished lady at the end gave me a good old laugh

    • @brandondaniels9471
      @brandondaniels9471 Год назад +1

      If she could've conjured up a spell to make her Dad bring down a plate of nice, juicy stake... maybe all of this could've been avoided.

  • @SkylusTarotandCrochet
    @SkylusTarotandCrochet 2 года назад +1

    Been waiting for a video of this 🌻

  • @DarkDesperado25
    @DarkDesperado25 2 года назад +8

    "The validity of this book has been debated" That is a masterclass in understatement.

  • @nrgbunni.
    @nrgbunni. 2 года назад +2

    The dust blown in eds face is probably scopolamine which is dust formed from a plant that is said to make its victims go into a suggestive zombie like state to do whatever you wish. It's been shown in many movies also

  • @randomvidzandedits1403
    @randomvidzandedits1403 2 года назад +12

    Please keep posting Conjuring videos. Thanks for the upload. 👻😀
    Edit: If you haven't already, could you upload the history if Samara Morgan from The Ring?

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld  2 года назад +9

      I would probably go for the original Sadako.

    • @edizicu9853
      @edizicu9853 2 года назад +3

      @@CZsWorld
      Please don't !!!!

    • @randomvidzandedits1403
      @randomvidzandedits1403 2 года назад

      @@CZsWorld yeah that sounds good. 👍

  • @masoomehkhazaee5811
    @masoomehkhazaee5811 2 года назад +2

    That was awesome 👌 👏
    I love Horror history 😍
    You tell us what we don't know about these stories

  • @ppgg997
    @ppgg997 2 года назад +4

    It's amazing how you can create 20minutes video just from less than 5 minutes of Isla history in the movie. Just a notice, on 17:35 i think all the gifts were given that time cause of Ed's health problem.

  • @ericgardner3140
    @ericgardner3140 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video, as usual. Keep up the great work!

  • @DjDannyD88
    @DjDannyD88 2 года назад +7

    I've been meaning to watch the Conjuring and Annebelle movies. Is their a specific order I should watch them in given how many movies there are?

    • @emansayeddd
      @emansayeddd 2 года назад +7

      Tbf you could watch them in release order and still be fine because you’d get all the shocks that the fans did as each film was released. However, the chronological order of the movies are:
      The Nun
      Annabelle: Creation
      Annabelle
      The Conjuring
      Annabelle Comes Home
      The Conjuring 2
      The Curse of La Llorona
      The Conjuring 3
      Hope this helps :)

    • @DjDannyD88
      @DjDannyD88 2 года назад +1

      @@emansayeddd it does. Thanks.

    • @urekmazino6800
      @urekmazino6800 2 года назад

      @@emansayeddd didn't realize la llorona was part of the same universe till now 🤣

  • @matthewmedina7874
    @matthewmedina7874 2 года назад +1

    I righty love all you honor history so much keep up the good work. And I have a question are you planning to do the history of the shining soon?

  • @still_fatmatic
    @still_fatmatic 2 года назад +3

    For a second there, when Charles started talking gibberish, I could have sworn I understood him for the first few seconds before I realized he wasn’t speaking anything. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @anthonyhosea8780
    @anthonyhosea8780 2 года назад +1

    What an amazing breakdown!! Oh & the lullaby music was a great way to end the video. lol Well done CZ!!
    🤘🏾😜

  • @r_k7457
    @r_k7457 2 года назад +6

    For some reason, every non purely demonic entity, I mean human at one point like the Satanist, the crying lady or the witch seem to be insanely more powerful than the demons themselves

  • @valenciageode25
    @valenciageode25 Год назад

    I noticed Annabelle in the background of CZ’s classroom. Now I must rewatch each conjuring episode to look for Annabelle!

  • @nightangel972000
    @nightangel972000 2 года назад +3

    Zac can you do a video on the history of Pazuzu from the Exorcist franchise?

  • @tannerjohnson847
    @tannerjohnson847 2 года назад

    that sub plug was quite possibly the smoothest yet. bravo sir.

  • @JH-nf9in
    @JH-nf9in 2 года назад +22

    A+ research! I'm always impressed by your videos. I think the dust blown into Ed's face might be an allusion to zombie lore - using a powder blown into the face as a way to control someone. I think there was an example in A Serpent and the Rainbow, but I'm not sure. Thanks for the literal hours of entertainment!

  • @jayesh8649
    @jayesh8649 2 года назад +1

    You are so intelligent and visionary think. Keep it up bro. Really inspiring

  • @kamkrueger9729
    @kamkrueger9729 2 года назад +13

    Just an assumption....I think the "dust" isla blows in Ed's face is actually the ashes of a former victim. Much like how Lorraine established a connection by touching a dead victim, isla could manually create one with the ashes on theory.

  • @ajaxwillis3962
    @ajaxwillis3962 2 года назад +1

    I've been watching CZ's World for YEARS and yet it's taken until just now to realize that CZ has a dimple... how is this possible; how did I miss this!?

  • @KenDawg25k
    @KenDawg25k 2 года назад +7

    4:49 my parents wouldn’t care who I’m sub to on RUclips 😂😂😂
    Also I kinda want a Horror History on the version of Spencer Charnas from the Silver Scream music videos, I hope it happens and I think that would be a fun video to watch.

  • @JayyGeezy
    @JayyGeezy 2 года назад +1

    I love these! Great video once again!