The Mysterious Death Of The Eight Day Bride
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_"wait a minute..."_
_"were they s m o o c h i n'?"_
Gay Grumps *Smoochin’ levels: 100*
h m m m m m a y b e
yes they smooch
"wait a minute...... were they smoochin??" - shane 👌👌👌👌
I'm using this quote
Join A Movement Of 6M To Adopt Klaus Hargreeves *who WOULDN’T use this quote?*
Join A Movement Of 6M To Adopt Klaus Hargreeves I love your name lol
Completely irrelevant but I would love to adopt Klaus
“And they were beneficiaries.”
* gasp * “and they were beneficiaries.”
i want to like this but it’s at 469
@@pogchamp2675 a noble choice
"And they were roommates"
*o m y g o d t h e y w e r e r o o m a t e s*
someone else broke the 69 so i’m going to like this comment now
Ahhhh I miss vine
Christina: I can't see another girl have him.
Ronald: That won't be a problem.
Jack: *Remarries*
OH MY GOD-
@@slikxs808 rt
im going to say the n word
@@BreakingWhite don't do it
Or, hear me out: Bisexual Jack
CP 781 I’d think it to be a questioning gay. It wasn’t accepted at the time so I would think that it was only by the time that Jack and Christine were deeper into their relationship that he would realize that he had stronger feelings for Ronnie (since they’d all known each other for a long whole).
I have a question. Would bi people at the time try to ignore their “unusual” feelings and push to have straight relationships, since they knew they were attracted to the opposite sex?
@@greatvalue_ethelcain well here's the thing, back then they didn't really make that distinction between gay and bi. sort of how people haven't made the distinction between sexual attraction and romantic attraction until rather recently. The more open society becomes the more people talk freely about their individual experiences and the more our understanding of the lgbt+ community changes. They did not have the vocabulary that we have today, and so most would not have quite the same sense of identity that we have.
What that means is that back then, if you liked someone of your own gender, you were a homosexual. If you liked someone of your own gender *sometimes* you were also a homosexual. They didn't have really a broad understanding of trans people either, so they were also called homosexuals. Asexual people? Frigid, but when in doubt, also a homosexual, probably. And so, most understanding queer people had of themselves were kind of cobbled together out of a life of shame and opression, if they didn't have imediate access to the underground queer scene. Some gay people would push for straight relationships cause "that's what you're supposed to do", some people would get married and maybe truly love their spouse, but also maybe still have side affairs, and sometimes it would be like "Aunt Geraldine was a spinster and may or may not have lived with her very close roommate Olivia till one of them died" And then you'd have someone like, Idk, James Dean, who was very "dude ya wanna smooch this weekend" about everything.
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@Must Han um, no? back then it was simply whether you were with the same or opposite gender that would determine it, and nowadays bi/pan ppl are not in more "straight" relationships (it wouldn't technically be a straight relationship anyway). What you're describing is bi erasure in both past and present.
The real question no investigator asked: Did Ronald say "no homo" after saving Jack?
Oh yeah that would have cleared things up.
LMFAOO
we need to hire cp hope to find cc tinlsey….hes somewhere in Kentucky....poor guy went missing looking for a sodder child or something...we dont really know ...
YOU'REEEEEEEE HEREEEEEEEEEE-
"bro we're lovers" "yeah bro" "I saved you" "yeah bro" "no homo though bro" "yeah no homo"
"Jack is gay but he's straight for me, but he's gay for Ronald, and Ronald is really gay for Jack. And I hate Ronald."
- Ludgate
huh
@@Syndra_maximoff1 its a quote from parks and recreation
OH MY GOD IM DYING
I’m not gay. Just my boyfriend who’s gay!
"I can't bear to see another girl have him...". Jack: "Well, good news..."
Yes 👍🏽 I’m
LMFAO
"I cannot bear to see another girl have him"
Gurrrllll, not a problem!
Mustö Han that’s the whole point of the original poster’s comment 😂😂👍🏼
Mustö Han he’s talking from Christina’s POV, obvi.
l r 🤣
Okay, this is crazy, and you probably don’t care, but I read this comment literally right as he said. Like, my head and his voice we’re in sync.
He remarried to a woman. He was bi
Shane: "I'm putting myself into Christina's mind right now" *becomes Jeff Goldblum*
🤣
I literally laughed out loud from this comment!!! 😂 Thank You, I needed that!! 😂 👍🏻👍🏻
I appreciate this so much. 👌 this is a top notch comment
LMAOOOO
This is the most accurate and delightful thing I have ever read, thank you for pointing this out
Historians: ah yes very good *friends*
Historians with Hamilton and Laurens
The Patrochilles ComplexTM
@@imaghostytoasty Fun fact: I started studying Hamilton back in '99 as a teenager, and even I picked up on that. I did in fact go on to become a historian, and I *still* think there was more to it than just a friendship. It wasn't unusual for men to speak in flowery terms about each other back then, but these two really were a bit, uh...*excessive.* I remember reading another historian pointing out that Hamilton's family (I think it was his kids later) burned some of his letters either to or from Laurens because even for the times, they veered too far into romantic territory.
Oh my god they were roommates
It’s so funny cause it’s not like they minced words like “unnaturally close” is contextually pretty damn explicit
"There was no evidence of this relationship" except being the benefactors on each other's wills, going on dates, going on the same honeymoon and explicitly stating that they were in a relationship. But other than that.
As historians would say "They were just very good friends"
"And they were roommates."
How nice for two totally platonic bros to be so close! 😂 this is the dude version of "Gal paaaals"
@@LD-hs9iv "Oh my god they were roommates"
Oh my god they were Homies
Christina: This is my husband Jack and that’s his boyfriend Ronald.
I’m sorry, but-
And I oop
theyre polyamorus
Kirsten The Cat there’s an interesting theory...
imagine being the person she said that to tho like wtf would you say “ohhhh niCe tOo mEeT yOu”
Never apologize for being the smartest one in the room
nO EVIDENCE THAT THEY WERE LOVERS?????
BUT THEY WERE BENEFICIARIES
*gasp* oH MY GOD THEY WERE BENEFICIARIES
Oh my God, they were beneficiaries.
oh black death they was beneficiaries
oh my god, they were beneficiaries
historians: they were really good friends
"you are a liar of the most blatant kind whose sinister figure permeates the whole of this tragedy but whose purpose and design are shrouded in mystery"
he just wanted to be gay bro
now i want to memorize this line and recite it whenever I'm playing Among Us
@@chocobean8219 lmao 🤣🤣
Didn’t have to murder his wife to sleep with another man, maybe just maybe don’t marry her and move somewhere u don’t know anyone and live ur life
@@leahfinlay8971 I mean ... that's dangerous for people Now, and this was 1947. and she had threatened his life and her own if he didn't devote himself wholly to her, so like? everyone in this situation is terrible but I don't think it rlly fully fits a criteria of selfish adultery murder or w/e, there's a Lot more going on here.
@@OmqSparklez still no excuse for murder weather it’s 1947 or 2021
Normal brain: love triangle
Big brain: bisexual Jack
Galaxy brain: polygamy
The Medicated Artist my brain: *gay love story*
Polygamy never ends well.
@Rowan Melton At that point it's just selfish. Children need a stable household to develop in.
@@SirDankleberry polygamous households...can be perfectly stable....if the parents are all in a stable relationship, too. Plenty of monogamous relationships are unstable and unsafe for the children, and the base issue is between the parents, whether it’s monogamous or poly. A poly relationship between parents is not inherently unhealthy for a child. A mono relationship between parents is not inherently unhealthy for a child, and often winds up unstable and unsafe anyway. So it’s not about poly or mono, it’s about parenting and actual dynamic.
@@nobody_5982 Aw yeah mum's just plowing three different guys.
why jack be like.. attractive 😳
Ikr
evelyn m true
He kinda reminds me of a 1950’s superman
Samedt😂 got me distracted
ronnie is lucky damn
Ryan: They were beneficiaries.
Me: *gasp* They were beneficiaries.
Oh my God they were beneficiaries
Oh lord! They were beneficiaries.
And they were beneficiaries
Cloey Robertson pardon what’s a beneficiaries
So you could call them...friends with beneficiaries? (I'm not sorry)
Me at the beginning: I think this episode is going to be gay.
Shane: were they smoochin’?
Me: hell yeah
I have no idea this episode's gonna be gay until they showed a photo of ronald and jack smiling and giving autographs at the wife's trial and i said yep they're f*ckin' on the side
Super gei
Them being gay makes sense in motive
My gaydar senses are tingling
"not only are they being suspected for murder, but they're also being outed, which is not cool."
Stan Ryan squad ⬇️
Arrow pointed at reply button so here I am
@@p_4225 Valid 🥂
off topic, but i’m honoured to have been the 420th like:))
Da f are you even saying
Mad respect. I do think they did it it but also being outed is not a good response to this type of situation
"i almost burned down my apartment making cheesy bread" the college energy ryan radiates hurts
skz aussie line 🤣🤣🤣
OOP- hello FeLLOw Stay :)
this makes me think of the office ryan and his cheesy pita
I almost set my hair on fire by trying to sneak-light a candle in my dorm. 👀
Wait... RYAN STARTED THE FIRE?!
Imagine dying a tragic murderous death and your employee describes you as "capable".
"Oh her? Yeah I mean she was.... capable."
"Capable?"
"Yeah she did things I guess."
Lauren Tedesco i thought it meant she was able to do a lot of things lol
I mean, it is only a teller job so... Capable seems fine.
hahaha how depressing
Capable can be used in different ways, I imagine what the boss meant was that she was able to handle anything that was thrown her way.
Lol..i was thinking the same thing..what an epitaph
I feel sorry for women back then so caught up in getting married as if life holds nothing else for them 😢 to drive them to either murder or commit suicide
It is really sad, it was like their only purpose in life 😥
@@meganoflint6645 Or to think that she would never be able to find another husband or boyfriend again. Back then it was... get married(once), be a housewife and have 3 kids before you are 25. (I wasn't alive then but from what I have heard) I think it was rare for women to even go to university.
@@peggypeggy4137 yeah I'm really proud to see that women have come such along since then even tho it could still be lots better for us, but you make a good point also
It could also be that she was really just THAT in love, some people do crazy things when obsessed with someone. You could be right though.
@@WangxianFF7 Do you think she was madly in love with her husband and the other guy got in the way?
so you're telling me Ryan Bergara almost burned down his home while making cheesy bread and Ryan Howard from The Office almost burned down the building making a cheesy pita?? coincidence? i think not.
RYAN STARTED THE FIRE!
this story is literally just "you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about"
More like the distracted boyfriend, but instead of another girl, its another guy
You vs. the guy HE tells you not to worry about 😂
I JUST was thinking about this! XD
Theory 5: this was all a giant meme
he***
Christina on her honeymoon be like: I can’t believe that it’s finally me and you, and you and me, just us, _AND YOUR FRIEND STEVE_ Dudurududurudu _STEVE_
bUT HOW MANY HOURS WITH HIM COULD YOU SPEND...
It's the Goatman 👀
THIS IS THE BEST COMMENT IN THE WORLD
I love this reference so much
I read this as:
AND YOUR FRIEND EVE DUDUDUDUDDUDUDUDUD AND YOU'RE FRIEND FEE
Do u think when ronald went in to save jack from the fire that he danced his way to avoid the fire just like salsa dance to jack and salsa dance out the cottage....like that would be hilarious
🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺
As someone who's intrusive thoughts frequently tell me that someone is inside my house, I really hate that I enjoy true crime so much
so trueee 😅
6:06 the “fantastic” comment was misunderstood. They were implying that his statement seemed... almost fake, because it was like a FANTASY.
Not that it was great.
Exactly! "Fantastic" as in outlandish.
Thank you! Was looking for a comment about this. Prime example is the movie title: Fantastic Beasts & Where to Find them
oh lmao I honestly couldn't interpret what they meant for the life of me
TheElolicious Haha, yeahh. That word isn’t use in that context very often. Kinda like the word awesome, people use it to just mean cool/great/fun, but when it’s used in its most literal sense meaning awe inspiring, people often miss the context clues to figure out which meaning is intended.
@@---nobody--- I see, I feel like the word 'fantastical' be more apt in this situation lol
Theory 2 sounds a lot like "be gay, do crime"
I probably laughed at this comment a lot harder than necessary.
Xd
Based
are you saying do the crime get it from behind...
Iv lived my life by that motto
Christina: I can’t imagine Jack being with another woman.
Ronald: Hold my beer.
"this week on buzzfeed unsolved we are solving the mystery on how me and shane carry buzzfeeds entire company on our backs"
They have been doing this for 4 years now...
@@ipshitakanungo3025 and now they're fully leaving
@@leviathxns yeah....I mean am a little sad, coz the unsolved series will probably come to an end, but am really happy for them... They Bois deserve so much more
So true lol
@@ipshitakanungo3025 the reason behind this is for them to start their own youtube channel
That picture they have of Christina is heck creepy.
She looks like a corpse in that picture
It reminded me of Elizabeth Short AKA The Black Dahlia which is, to me, a heck creepy case. 🙃
Yep, and honestly the picture of Jack weirds me out too. Dude looks like a mannequin, or like he's got a thick layer of foundation and drawn-on eyebrows.
Whispering Mischief it’s because of the picture quality of the time
And unclear
shane HIGHKEY got possessed by christina in this episode
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@@babygorillagod7638 It starts at about 1:47
omg
I have 3 theories.
1.) I think during the honeymoon, Ronnie told Christina that he and Jack were in love. Perhaps he told her that Jack marrying Christina was just a coverup so that he and Jack could be together without anyone figuring out their gay affair. That would explain Christina being emotionally unstable. She finally decides to kill herself and Jack along with her because after all, he was the one who was lying about his love for her the whole time. Also, it would have been much harder for her to manage to kill BOTH Jack and Ronnie. So she decides to take out the one who hurt her the most. So, after Ronnie leaves the cabin for a while, she poisons Jack and herself, leaves Jack inside the cabin, sets the cabin on fire as a crime of passion, and then either
A. intentionally drowns herself in the river, possibly with the motives of framing Ronnie as a way to punish him as well
B. while walking by the river, she passes out due to the drugs and drowns
2.) Ronnie was in love with Jack but Jack didn't know. So, to get back at Jack for marrying Christina, he decided to kill them both. He drugged them both, hit Jack over the head so that he wouldn't interfere while trying to kill Christina, Christina runs out of the house in fear and heads towards the river, Ronnie catches up to her and drowns her, went back to the cabin, sets it on fire, realizes that either there's no reason to kill Jack now that Christina is out of the picture or he realizes the horror in what he's done/doing, decides to rescue Jack, and grabs the letters in order to frame Christina.
3.)supporting one of the theories mentioned in the video, perhaps Christina was so paranoid about losing Jack, she decided to kill him and herself so that no one else could have him and because she was nothing without him. And Ronnie, sensing something was off, went along with them on the honeymoon to make sure things didn't go south. But he also never said anything to Jack because he didn't want to ruin things between him and Christina
I think maybe the number is ture but maybe chiristina knew about them already that she couldnt handle maybe smooching or sum and she even told that no one could have him so thats why she drugged jack when ronnie wasnt there
Jack and Christina got married.
Christian found out that Jack is in love with Ronald.
She (already unstable) decides to kill Jack and then herself. Drugs him and set the house a blaze. Drugs herself and drowns in the water.
Ronald finds Jack and saves him (awwww)
Done and done. You cant tell me any different. *slap hands together to remove dust* any questions? None. GREAT!
I think you got it spot on. I feel this is what happened.
You're telling me this DIDN'T happen? It totally did, bravo to you.
Except for the fact that they were beneficiaries to each of their own insurance. Drove Christina to take such drastic steps, either emotionally or physically (drugs) OR both. Burned down the cottage to claim the insurance, with the knowledge that Christina killed herself.
@@nirvanalama8493 i think jack used ronald making jack benifitiary of the cabins insurance as the perfect ‘excuse’ for jack to then take out a life insurance on himself and Christina. She probably then started getting suspicious or it confirmed ones she already had
**Ronald saves Jack**
and that’s on brokeback mountain.
Mustö Han brokeback Mountain is a movie about closeted cowboys that can’t be together because back then being homosexual was “wrong”
Highly underrated comment omfg
@@Nekromancer98 oh, you are clever
Omfg
I was so confused at the beginning of the movie. Like they were all pissy and then they just started... Out of nowhere? Granted I was 14 and trying to fill the void that cmbyn left me so I had no idea what I was in for.
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Especially not Ryan:
Shane: A PROFESSIONAL BALLROOM DANCER
Kaylah Oneal
More like
*bAllET dAncEr*
"OH MY STARS" that part cracked me up XD
That whole monologue reminded me of jeff goldblum
😄
hama mama oh oh
she already had mental issues, she couldn’t bear the fact that jack loved another man, so she tried to kill them both and then poison herself- when the poison didn’t work she drowned herself, thus why the water was so shallow because she did it willingly. Also explaining the fact that the firefighter didn’t see her - because she hadnt drowned herself yet as she was waiting for the poison to kick in.
Nice take
Christina: "Oh Ron, I really don't know if Jack loves me! I would hate to see him with another woman!"
Ronald: "Yeah, that would be a shame..."
beautiful girl ??? jack???? italian friend???? titanic who
anna rossetti Lol
Roflmao
BOI HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
titanic was kinda gay too
can't change my name i thought titanic was the literal embodiment of the fantasy heterosexual relationship
"The largest piece of evidence that she killed herself are the *several suicide notes*"
I mean
That's a pretty damning piece of evidence id say
So is the husband's life insurance policy, TBF.
Poochie Collins except if they were truly lovers they could have wrote each other in as beneficiaries secretly and taken their families who didn’t approve out.
I'ts weird he thought about saving the letters instead of searching for her a little bit more. I think she killed herself but was driven to it by them. They just let her do it. Which, not to justify them, but seems like a not so unreasonable idea since she had thought about killing Jack before.
You have to move the quotation marks to make it bold
The thing about this is that she might have planned to kill herself but was killed before she could do that
I really think Christina may have had drug issues and paranoid tendencies, so when she either found out or assumed the relationship between Jack and Ronald she snapped. She took drugs, drugged Jack and tried to murder him by knocking him out and setting the house on fire. Ronald showed up just in time to save Jack and when Christina found her plans to be ruined she ran off. Not sure how she drowned in 9 inches of water, but I also don’t know how much codeine was in her system. Also I def believe she was so dramatic she threw the ring into the lake titanic style.
I think you're right, this doesn't sound like a murder, just a very tragic, sordid love story. and 9 inches is enough water to submerge your face if you're lying down, so its enough to drown in. you can drown in incredibly shallow water, especially intoxicated
This one really broke my heart because if Jack and Ronald really were lovers, they had to deal with all those people interested in the case trying to out their sexuality. I do really believe that they were together because the fact that Jack cut all of his family out of his life is very telling especially in such a time back then when being LGBTQ+ was considered “unnatural”
It broke your heart because of your over speculative mind? There's no evidence that they had anything beyond friendship. I'm a male who's been really good friends with a bisexual male since 2008. Does that mean we're interested? This logic is laughable. There's not even any evidence that either of them had an interest in men.
@@billbertboyce324 stuff
@@billbertboyce324 I mean, it's not disprovable. It could be true. Doesn't mean it is, of course, but there is some evidence to back it up, so don't get all upset that someone believes it.
@@koolkat-hq5xc what sort of evidence? I've seen none. It's just speculation. The assumption is that it isn't true. It's assumed nonsense until there's satisfactory evidence to support it.
@@billbertboyce324 dude did you even watch the video
Everyone, logical: Jack was gay
Me, a fool: threesomes
Jojo L. THATS WHAT I THOUGHT IN THE LOVE TRIANGLE
Like one of those poly relationships
I THOUGHT THAT LOL
SEE I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS WHY HE WENT ON THE HONEYMOON
lmao if this wasn't me as soon as they mention Ronnie coming on the honeymoon!!
Ryan: Ronnie joined them during the honey moon
me: oh so they in that kinda love triangle,,,,
Ok, I’m gonna say it.... Jack was HOT! That jawline tho
AicraG G Same thought here 😅
had to look far off the comment section to find this.
ik sis i would have eloped with him too
I would gladly be in a secret gay relationship with him too. Can anyone blame Ron?
yazzzz
Alternate title “90 day fiancé gone wrong”
This case is truly bizarre....all 3 people come across as profoundly guilty. Yet nothing is really ever explained. Even the widespread assumption that Jack/Ronald were lovers is total speculation and is never substantiated.
Exactly! The idea that the woman was suicidal has more evidence to support it than the idea that jack and Ronald were interested in each other.
I mean yes, but she literally was suicidal, so that’s not saying much. It’s pretty obvious that the two guys were also in a relationship with each other. All the stuff about leaving their money yo each other, and Ronnie going with them on their honeymoon. It’s a safe assumption to make.
Also, "fantastic" back in the day meant "unbelievable" or "beyond the realm of reality" not like, "oh, wow! That was awesome!"
BiggerinRealLife hmm... that explains....a lot
I was wondering about that, like maybe they meant "fantastical" or something
Used to sorta mean fantasy
And “awesome” meant kind of the same thing
Back when definitions weren’t confused and words meant what they meant.
ok but jack is a snack
lmao i was just thinking that
Omg!!! That's what I thought 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jacc a snacc?
he's a SNACCC
a gay snack
The fact that Jack was poisoned may have something to do with her statement of not wanting any other girl to have him. Killing both herself and Jack.
I think the 2 had a romantic relationship and she kinda knew so she decided to kill him and herself, thy way they could be together forever but she couldn’t actually kill jack and that’s when Ronald came in and found him with blood on his face. But she killed herself because she couldn’t be married to him after having knowing he didn’t lover her how she wanted. I think they didn’t really try to find her cause they kinda wanted her to be gone.
During this time frame, the word “fantastic” meant more like imaginative or like it was made up rather than what it means today. Fantastic comes from the word fantasy.
Yes! Like a fantastic stretch of the imagination.
Omg yes! Its fantastic how my dad never came back!
BeeHAVE oh jeez-
Thank you. I was scrolling the comments to see if someone had already explained this.
@@beehave2331 Ouch.
"they listed each other as beneficiaries and jack gave ronnie his money and didn't talk to his family for some reason"
me, a gay person that involves my partner in financial decisions instead of my homophobic family: huh very mysterious
lmao nooo
@@justhitwick im so sorry what does this mean
that's kinda gay
Just HitWick I’m getting a headache trying to understand this, what are you saying?
Just HitWick explain
My questions is...
Why is Jacks picture the only clear one? The other ones are super blurry but Jack’s is really clear and sharp...
It looked like his was from some sort of ID card maybe? Which would make sense considering he was a veteran. The others looked like they were pulled from casual family photos
the picture of Jack comes from a newspaper story of the police taking him somewhere
maybe it was a better camera used?
he used an iphone the others used andriods
@@amor7886 well i think it might be the opposite?
Copyright/ privacy policy
there’s nothing like falling asleep to sound of shane and ryan talking about unsolved mysteries
heheh
I think Shane's theory that whilst the two men did not directly cause her death, they knew what she was planning and took advantage of it. Ronald may have shared the letters with Jack and the two may have further encouraged this mental state in her and her worry over Jack's love. They knew she was planning something drastic so they took out the insurance policies, and ensured Ronald came with them in case anything went wrong and she tried a murder suicide. This theory would also explain why Ronald saved the letters from the burning cottage, so that they could prove her mental state and show their innocence. Christina left the cottage after attempting to murder Jack and then either drowned accidentally when she maybe passed out, or Ronald found her after saving Jack and the letters and kills her in revenge for almost killing Jack.
I'd stem off and almost say in her declining state they took advantage after she wrote letters he showed them to Jack and they then setup an elaborate plan to murder her at the cabin and burn it down but to make it look like she tried murdering jack. Because in my eyes if I was Jack and he showed me those letters saying she wanted to murder me I wouldn't want to be left alone with her. I'd be too afraid she'd do something and coincidentally something does happen. So it makes me wonder if they murdered her and staged it too look like she tried killing Jack. Mmm not sure though not sure. Unsolved
Except when they found the body there was no evidence of foul play if she was drowned FORCIBLY there would be indications of this unless she was just drugged and thrown into the water.
I'm buying all the thing you said EXCEPT the idea that they murderd her. She probably committed suicide, intentionally drugged herself while on the river, then passed out and drowned.. well intentionally, after her "failed" attempt to murder Jack.
This is exactly what I have been thinking. Who saves a bunch of letters when there’s a fire unless the person knows the letters are a chance for him (or them in this case) to escape? I’ll take it a bit further and say they were gay and had intentionally made Christina more paranoid about the whole “jack not marrying her” situation.
Or maybe the two buddies planned everything beforehand (marriage, honeymoon, etc.) so they take the insurance money by manipulating Christina, knowing she was mentally unstable.
Shane putting himself in the shoes of Christina has very strong Jeff goldblum energy
where is the lie tho
Omg yes
I was just about to comment the same thing
Ryan's reaction was a mood
Alskshahahah the truth
Wife burns something
Husband is probably in love with his best friend
Wife has no idea
What is this? Hamilton?
This is seriously underrated
YESSSS
That's what I was thinking
I-
SHUT UP ABOUT HAMILTON!! SHUT UP ABOUT HAMILTON!!
I’d like/hate to think that when this case was over, media was still all over Jack and Ronnie’s lives, seeing as they kept up with Jack’s marriage, and to save their gay relationship, they went separate ways so as to not sensationalize their connection to each other. Unfortunately, it led to them never seeing each other again. Kinda like “if you love something, set it free” and also like the trauma of what went down is pretty intense and put a strain on their relationship. Obviously I’d like to spin my own made up version of what happened after the case went cold, but i think this much sadder version is closer to reality ☹️
Nothing against them being gay, but both of them being beneficiaries to each other's insurance right before the incident doesn't sit well with me.
shane calling himself out for the heteronormativity 😂 what did we do to deserve him
"heteronormative" also known as, normal.
@@-scrim nah
@@wagon2961 Objectively wrong. Fantasy land? Unsurprising.
@@-scrim Dude, look up heteronormative. The definition is more complex than you are representing it to be.
@@liz.213 Okay, dude;
> denoting or relating to a world view that promotes heterosexuality as the normal or preferred sexual orientation
Refer to my original comment.
Shane putting himself into the mind of a woman was the highlight of this episode (and I'm only at the 3 minute mark) 😂😂😂
The Haves and the Have Nots Review, same
That part made my day😹😹😹
“Oh my stars”
Kim Palonen for me I think a war vet has a lot more going for them than a professional ball room dancer.
Shane's mind palace
Plot twist: when Ronald moved to New York he became super famous and is the icon Ronald McDonald.
No one else think it’s weird that no one heard from Ronnie again? 🤔
Sounds like another unsolved case to me!
When the police described Ronald's statement as "fantastic" they were using the word's old meaning; unbelievable, literally relating to a fantasy. They thought he was talking absolute codswallop.
codswallop
It's just like when in the room 1046 case when they didn't realize "commercial woman" meant prostitute. I love these boys, but I don't think they read much.
New favorite word
How can he write a 3k word confession in 13 hours????? i can't even write a 1.5k word paper over the weekend without having a breakdown
well you're lucky you didn't do IB
dude he was probably high off some kind of medieval marijuana and had at least like 30 breakdowns
Adrenaline tbh...
currently doing the IB and already having mental breakdowns by doing nothing
Facts
Me, a Canadian watching this: Oh no! The cottage burned down? Oh dear
Shane: 15:47
Ryan's unsolved voice is strangely calming
Anthony Garcia I've seen every episode but I still rewatch them in the background while I do other things because his voice is so good
Anthony Garcia what u mean? he sounds like the burger king foot lettuce guy
Anthony Garcia ikr
Cierra Creek I do that too
I've fallen asleep before to a video
This is why I prefer True Crime to Supernatural. So much more exciting! While I'm enthralled by the idea of ghosts and demons, the human psyche is so much more complex to explore.
I am torn. But with the supernatural ones you also have ghosts asking for food.
True crime is fun, but I love supernatural because unlike other supernatural shows, they bring Shane, a skeptic along with them to debunk most of it, and try and antagonize the ghost/demons into attacking him.
As a Canadian I’ve never heard of this case so this was actually pretty interesting but I think that Jack and Ronald were gay and Christine either 1: knew about their relationship and was angry and sad that Jack would never love her as much as she loved him and tried to kill Jack and commit suicide by setting the house on fire but failed and either due to the drugs or intentionally. Theory number two would be that because she had tried to kill Jack Ronnie decided to kill her because he was angry and drowned her. Theory number three is that maybe that Jack and Ronnie has been “doing the deed” and Christina walked in on them and I was horrified and maybe she got angry and told Ronnie to leave so she could talk to Jack alone and tried to murder jack but failed and tried to set the house on fire and then left to commit suicide and threw the ring into the water and drowned. 🤔
@2:08 -
My thoughts exactly..
"What's happening right now?!" 🤔🤨
"Fantastic" did not have the same connotations in the 40s as it does now. The police did not mean to say that Barrie's statement was wonderful or great in some way, but that it was "fantastical," seeming like a fantasy rather than reality, an exaggerated or fabricated story rather than a true account.
Avery Nelson ohhh yeah that makes more sense, thanks for commenting
was just about to say this myself. i'm surprised they didn't realise that after all the stuff they've read by now. A fantastic tale is one considered pure fiction, so wild and outrageous it doesn't seem remotely likely.
That make sense
Thanks! I'm pretty I knew that, but it was buried deep in the vault and there are spiders down there.
What I came down here to say :)
I'm a policing student in Canada and we're required to write a paper on a Canadian case that was never solved. I never thought I would credit Buzzfeed for an assignment, but thanks lol
Paloma Burnham Thank you! I got a 27/30 thanks to Ryan and Shane 😂
ネイサン omg that’s amazing!! congrats
lmao my teacher referenced their video on roanoke for a class project
ネイサン bro u just got handed your paper lol
ネイサン lmao good luck
My theory:she tried to end it all and kill Jack by drugging him and herself and setting the house ablaze. In her delerious state she wandered outside and fell, drowning in the water. Ronnie was both a lover of Jack's but also going along out of concern for him. Alternatively, some drug induced threesomes may have just gotten out of hand...
Me: is vibing watching true crime
true crime: love triangle
Me, very bi: hah, what if they were gay
True crime: they might be gay
Me: OH MY GOD THEY'RE GAY
This comment is hilarious 😂
throuple throuple throuple
ME IN A NUTSHELL OMG
repent and turn to Christ before it’s too late and don’t take God’s Name in vain 🥰
@@oliviagrace6914 bruh
jack and ron be like yeah we gay keep scrolling
fyi Jack was bisexual me Ronnie gay it's so obvious
Miss Amanda's world well that’s just a wild assumption
@@majormana1 the fact that this prob true lmfao
@@janes8714 it's not that wild. Ronnie admitted he was gay. Jack said he wasn't never said straight just not gay he invited Ronnie to come with. He married another female.
They should do a unsolved mystery on my dad going to the shop
@Mustö Han He never came back after going for the milk
@Mustö Han it's a joke that has been going around about dad leaving for milk and ultimately decided to never return to pay for the child support
Same here dude 😞😰😭
dudeeeeeeee
You guys want hugs?
two bros, chilling in a cabin....
“This was disturbing, I didn’t like it” - me working retail
I think you should put a poll on every video,with all the theories so you can see what everyone thinks is the most plausible theory.just an idea.Like of u agree
Elite Gamer great idea!! That would be awesome to see what everyone else is thinking!! I'm down 💯
neon_lights glad u agree with me man.did not expect over a 100 people to agree also lol
Elite Gamer it's a wonderful idea!!
Yes!!!!
Thats super smart
The only difference is that in this version of the story,Jack survived and Rose drowned😂😂
lata priya THIS NEEDS MORE LIKES
OMG YES😂😂
WHEEZE
*CHOKES*
And that Jack and Hockley were in love?
Ronnie: "You was here. And you was *SMOOCHIN'* with my lover!"
A Culkin reference!🤣
"Wait a minute.... were they smoochin?"
Yes, Shane. Yes they were
is it sad the gay love triangle idea popped into my head immediately
Yam The Cow nope. I did too.
Same haha
nope i thought of it too lol
Same as soon as I heard I thought huh maybe their gaaaayyyyy
I lowkey think they all banged 😂
Shane: *yelling about "strapping professional ballroom dancers"*
Ryan: *reevaluating all of his lifes choices that lead him to this point in time*
Jack was smokin' hot tho.
Historians would say Ronald and Jack would just be “close friends”
Jack was a SNACK
Ok... I'm glad I'm not the only one that was thinking that 😂😂
Thank you! I'm not the only person seeing him that way
Did we just call a possible murderer cute 😁
Unicorn Redheart Exactly, possible. Not garunteed
I don't understand why women are attracted to gay men.
Shane: Wait a minute.... Were they smoochin'?
Me: They were probably doing more than that my dude.
Crazy Caity 1,000 like
Me: HOLD UP WERE THEY GAY?!?!??!?!
Allie Chef plot twist: Jack and Ronald are gay and they are together
What, like holding hands?
Crazy Cai yeah like muff diving and rim jobs
my INSTANT thought was that it was a secret poly relationship but as the story unfolded I realized it couldn’t have been possible
the pictures of the people involved in the cases always terrify me
RYAN THRIDWHEELS WITH SHANE AND SARA xD
Liza Evelyn isn't ryan in a relationship
Yes pretty sure unless they Broke up but highly doubt it xD But it is just sweet
Well, there's Ricky Goldsworth
Lakela Deangelis I just checked both Ryan and Helen's instagrams, it looks like she may have moved to NYC and they haven't posted any pics together since January so they could be long distance but who knows
are shane and sara actually a thing i kinda hate that
80% of this comment section: “but jack is hot”
Lmao you aren't wrong
Hey, Ronnie’s pretty cute too
Hahahaha true
its true tho
Always the cute ones haha 😂 he is cute
12:41 you really need to take that with a grain of salt because Italians in Canada during this time were usually not treated kindly...
16:16 DISRESPECTFULLY, YOU CAN CATCH THESE “UNNATURAL” HANDS MR POLICE COMMISSIONER
My gaydar says “Yep, they were lovers.”
Same, I thought they were bi and she was a beard.
^ I was thinking this too, kinda in a fleeting " that would be funny if-" scenario, but when they explored it- woo my pride skyrocketed
tooearlyforapril Me too! I wish they had made the video longer though...
Even in the 40's being a ballroom dancer was pretty gay
Marcy Lynn I love your pfp =) 💕
Ryan looked so lost and uncomfortable when Shane was talking with his eyes closed
Livvy Castro yeah lol
I think Christina really killed herself, and Jack and Ron were lovers and decided to end the relationship because of this horrific happening. And they would be both sus if they lived together after that
their relationship is literally “I can’t believe it’s finally you and me and you and me just us and your friend Steve do-do-do-dododo Steve”
**BuzzFeed Unsolved uploads**
Me: **drops everything and clicks on video furiously**
KayleeKat *drops phone in the process*
Lmfao
KayleeKat MEEEEE
KayleeKat honestly