Is this the best miter saw stand you've never heard of?
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2019
- You've probably never heard of Cut Hub, and you aren't alone. I hadn't heard about them until just recently when they reached out telling me they had an amazing product that I'd love. This is not a review video at all. Purely a video showing you all what is out there and as I use this more I will talk more about it. Make sure you are following along on Instagram @rrbuildings where I will show the ins and outs as we get used to it on site. Look for a future video where I will talk more in depth about my thoughts in regards to its efficiency and safeness factor, which is why it was made originally.
check it out at www.cuthub.com
These systems aren't cheap, and nothing 100% American made ever is. But it truly does look to be a quality system. The setup you see in this video is their professional package and top of the line. check with them for current pricing as these are basically made one at a time. Mention you saw it here and they might cut you a deal lol... Also I was not paid to make this video or any future videos, but they did bring this out for me to try and to talk about. I will be 100% honest with my thoughts on it if you are looking at it seriously. This is NOT a sponsored Video, but I love sharing small time people trying to make big differences in our industry! 
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I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
*First mitre saw and it really improved my trim work **MyBest.Tools** Hard to believe the price on this tool when My 2nd trim blade was 2/3rds of the cost of this saw.*
With Ryan's ruclips.net/user/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE plan I was like one taken by the hand and led step by step from start to finish. Thank you very much Ryan!
So, I checked their website and there’s no pricing. To request a quote you have to provide them all this information, which only guarantees more endless unsolicited phone calls and emails.
Sorry, I’m not much for having to go through all that just to get a price list.
yup that's a turnoff
They are not a big corprate company who keeps calling endlessly, i spoke with the owner a couple months ago to get pricing. He is a very good guy not pushy just gave me the facts on how it helped him and his company and how it could help me, no other unsolicited calls
agreed. absolutely absurd that they don't have pricing on their site. they must be embarrassed by their pricing to not make it public
they dont sell your enquire , they will call you back and discuss pricing options, the gentelman i spoke to was very nice and well informed , not a sales pitch kinda thing
@@reginaldwhite7944 I am not commenting about data collection. My point is I should have to ask for a quote on a product that isn't custom. It is like walking into a store and being required to talk to a salesperson before grabbing something off the shelf.
Add prices to your site. No need for a quote. If we want it, we’ll buy it.
$1500 to $3500+
@@ocp1669 I will keep my dewalt....phew!!!
Fastcap's Best Fence on a Dewalt stand. Check it out.
I have nothing nice to say except thank you for trying to show us interesting and unique tools and equipment
Looks like something that will work well with y’all. Can’t wait to see what you think.
Only one thing could make this better for us guys who have corded saws is some pre wired outlets with a pig tail that comes apart to break it down for storage .that way you only have one cord and less of a chance of tripping on multiple cords
I agree this would be a nice feature. I've built several cut 'stations' to use on long term projects and always zip tie a splitter somewhere for this exact reason. Biggest benefit is gained when you're working indoors and have an extractor/vacuum set up on the miter saw and table saw. Cord management really becomes an issue then when you have 4 cords from the saws/extractors as well as needing power to a jigsaw, grinder, biscuit joiner etc set up on the outfeed table for the table saw. Usually end up with a second splitter or more often a heavy duty power strip to power those tools tied up underneath the outfeed table so I don't have to be constantly swapping extension cords.
Glad to see this thing see the light of day. Cool product. Once the saws are aligned on their mounting plates, the consequent setups are quick.
Looks like it would take to long to set up on a construction site ,I own a Rousseau table saw stand with a extension stand for a out feed table and also I put one for a in feed table allows me to lay a pc of 3/4 sheet of plywood on it and not have to hold and just slide it through the saw to the out feed never dropping it , and the best part easy to put together and fast just unfold the legs put the saw into it ready to go , also you can ad an side extension for a router table lot of possibility, check it out Rousseau table saw stands
Amazing tools thank you RRbuilings for sharing
Hey, man. I appreciate the genuine sentiment of this video. I subscribe to your same line of thinking on tool purchases and trust in your honesty when reviewing the products you use. Looking forward to the follow up!
Wasn't it light out when they started setting the work station up?
Yeah, I'm going to need to see a full site review. I wasn't too sold on it from your shop demo. Lol
Looking forward to the follow-up review.
"Looked like." lol. Guy retiring here last week said that I had potential in my job. I've been doing this job going on six years...
I see a lot of people saying this is too much of a pain to set up. My question is once you have the initial set up done (miter saw and table saw in plane with the tables) is it repeatable? Or does every set up take this much finesse to get your tools dialed in?
thats a dope set up.. well thought out and a lot of surface room.. well done..
Sweet setup. Looking forward to see how much you use it.
I can't wait to see the real world use of this to see how it holds up on a job site.
Looks real quality - really keen to see how it performs on the job. 👍
Sweetness!
Reminds me of the Ron Paulk work station though.
3 grand for the pro set is crazy. The other brands still give you something pretty similar for way less. The table saw stand is really just a fancy outfeed. I was interested until the sticker shock. I'm know it's a well made system, but I guess I never really felt like the other brands were really that far off the mark.
At half the price I'd go for it, but yeah its a lot for that extra bump in quality
i like the table saw/tracksaw table potentials of this system. i have a best fence for my kapex, always looking for some thing to take to track saw/table saw, even jigsaw and routing, sanding potential to the next level.
The idea of the miter saw stand is great, your wood always nice flat and supported. Would be nice to have something like this in the Netherlands for my Metabo.
Kyle, what is the make and model of the miter saw that you are using on this stand in the video? Thanks
Great video. Well done for giving Dave the opportunity to market his product. Hope it works out well.
I wouldn't call it a 'job site' stand, but it is nice if you have a dedicated space for it. Love the versatility, chaining of multiple tables and add-ons.
Looking forward to the on-site review. I was a bit concerned that the table saw was rocking even after he tried to level it (on a pretty flat concrete floor). But let's see what it can do in the real world.
Yeah that was not a huge vote of confidence for something in the 1500-3500+ range.
Very cool!!!...worth the investment...looks like a quality system..I want one
The Paulk bench and total station look comparable and you can build them your self. Seems to definitely be geared to framing as I don’t see that outfeed table being very useful for much other than support. Wouldn’t work that well as a bench surface or assembly table. Anyways, looking forward to seeing you use it onsite.
Sure looks lime a good bit of kit. Can't wait to see how it works for you on the always uneven surfaces of the job site yards. I'll be waiting for the true and honest review.
Way AWESOME for any job. Wow. Impressive.
I used a miter saw system like this for years framing houses.I would use it to cut all the window and door packages. That kept my guys just banging walls as fast as they could. But then I was the only one in the development with an old boom truck also. Could build the gable truss on the ground and fly her into place etc. I like the idea of the rip station but...I bet you burn up a few of the little job site saws. This system is ideal for the crew that employs a sawyer.
A professional mechanic doesn’t walk onto a Snap- On tool truck to purchase tools, equipment and storage systems with price at the top of his list. Somehow he thrives and enjoys working with high quality, long lasting tools that make his job better, faster, simpler and considers it a worthy lifetime investment even though they are costly.
If this gear outperforms and outlasts a locally available item and the purchaser can believe in it then it should be an easier buy and a recommendation can be made. No matter how nice it may be, it may not be for everyone but I’m sure there will be plenty who will be interested in more than price if it can pay for itself in safety, accuracy, time and lasting durability.
Great words right there and I totally agree
That looks really damn nice.
Im anxious to see it in action!
There are a few other videos out there if you really look, but there is nothing really about it that is revolutionary. Some of the videos go on and on about the stop block and how it speeds up cutting multiple pieces the same length, but that isn't something that would be hard to do elsewhere. I have a delta mobile saw stand paid around 250 for it and it has a stop on the wings. Yes it would take maybe a few seconds longer to set it up, but it's there. Even without one there are other ways to get it done. Paying at the very least 6 times what I paid for the delta and it's not mobile?
I am not saying it doesn't have its place, I can see it easily being fine for someone that does a lot of trim work but outside of that I don't see it being worth the price. Which is $1500 at the absolute lowest end.
Interested to see how this stacks up against the know how you seem to calculate before getting on the job site! Best of luck great video!
that looks brilliant.hope you sell well.from england
Very interesting design station he came up with .
To be honest, I would use this in the shop as well as on site. Looks really good! Interested to see how it holds up on-site.
I think it is pretty sweet. I'm sure it would be great on a job site but where I live I'm not sure we would have the space on a job site that is level enough for that size of a miter station. I know it has adjustable feet but I'm talking more about hills in backyards and such. Nothing like the land you typically work on. I do like the table saw stand though. Both seem great but seems like you would have to rely on the property you're working on to determine if it can be used or not
Looks professional and well made. Setup does not look as difficult as some are making it out to be. Of course it cost a lot. Aluminum is expensive.
The round tube style Ridgid is awesome. Ive had it for 10 yrs...
1st impression is that is a nice bit of kit. Looks like it should perform well on site. However, the proof is in the pudding. Here's to hoping it is all it looks like it can be.
Looks like a cool product! 👍🏻👊🏻
Looks well thought out and portable. If it gets adjusted right for stability it should create a workshop away from home. The only concern is will it hold up to the lumps and bumps of throwing it in the truck and are there so many parts that pieces go missing. Can't wait to see your review.
Would this stand up to big, heavy 16 ft econo d logs used on log homes?
Very cool portable system! Even on a job site it would be a nice work area. I agree with Steve it might be a pain to set it up. However after a couple of set ups it would be second nature. I am sure the curve would come way down.
took me 6 full minutes the very first time by myself on site to get it out and setup....
RR Buildings not bad at all. I’m sure in the video for the audience you guys went a tad slow. But six minutes is great 👍
I had guys take that long after a break to get back to there work station. Lol
Gorgeous tool
Looks really promising. As an amateur, I have 'made' various tools, pieces if plywood with plunge cuts blade guides bolted to the ply..... yep, hillbilly as they come..... but this looks really good.
What did you make with blades?
that is very impressive it kinda looks complicated but i think once you set up saws it looks like it would be quick set up i like it
takes no time to set up actually very quick
how much time would you lose a day setting it up and packing away ,
I spoke with him in november about the system its a nice product you do pay a premium for it but it is a premium product
What was the price?
@@jamesbailand4311 for just the contractor package it was $3500 that doesn't come with the extra table for the table saw, the contractor package you just put it on the end of the mitersaw stand
Aaron Stone $3500?! That’s ludicrous. This thing looks waaay over engineered to this trim guy.
@@aaronstone5899 that's a serious price.
If building a house from the ground up, or regularly setting up a mobile workshop for 1week+ at a time it could then be viable to set up.
I like that it's built in North America, (or any industrelised country and not in China or wherever) to me that's worth more money, everytime.
Very nice setup.. however some time could be spent on figuring out how to support the table saw with out the use of the front legs. Make for easier setup and more consistent results
I'm 76, still working and have used a few stands. The one shown will not work on a traditional construction site. To complicated, slow, and it would have to be removed from the site daily. Fore many reasons the best I've used is from Ridgid.
How can this guy say he’s sick of Dewalt and ryobi stands
This stand looks like a pain in the ass to set up from job to job
People really make me laugh
Thanks for the amusing vid man
Looks good, stay looking good. I’m keeping my DeWALT.
Now that looks like a really nice bit of kit, shame it will probably never make it to the uk
It looks beautifully made, I would be concerned about how much time it takes to set up / run down as you would need to do this every day because there is no way you would leave it setup on an un secured site, as it won't be there when you return in the morning.
I made my own a while back. I need a back fence
that is parallel with the mitre saw's. It assures 90 degree
cuts.
Very cool Good job.
absolutely kick ass.
Can’t wait to set that up when I’m on price 😂😂😫😫
It's a great concept ... Still seems really complicated to put together . This is probably why the major brands haven't put it on the market. If there was some way to simplify set up , maybe pre-settings to accommodate different saw brands , or quick release type setting connections so adjustments can be done quickly and accurately.
Still, it's a good start .
It is all quick release and super easy to setup on site. I’m not sure why everyone is saying it looks complicated??? I truly don’t understand. It’s not difficult after you’ve done this one time
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I guess it was the presentation. This whole video make the entire system look way too complicated. And on this vid ... the very last thing shown was a wobbly mounting plate and table saw.
That plus 3 giant boxes holding all the parts for this system. As far as the quick release .. it wasn’t clearly shown.
I’m sorry I missed that, but it all came across in the vid as screw type adjustments .
Like I said , it does look like a good concept ... but this showing of a new product made the whole thing look cumbersome and complicated.
I’ll take your word on it that it’s not complicated, but that’s not how it came across on video.
Hope it works well. Have a good day sir 👍
Sorry bout the typos . Wasn’t trying to make a joke
Love it! I need one! I think this is one of the best tools I have ever seen! We’re do I buy one ?
Nice system!
Looks pretty nice. I wonder how it does on uneven ground which is where I'm typically working.
I have the Best Fence system from FastCap which is pretty nice but really heavy with everything all together.
has adjustable legs and its super easy
Also my dewalt table folds up small and works fine with a saw 🐎
good job nice saw stand
On youtube looks good, have not seen anything like it in Queensland tool shops, maybe not looking hard enough. Easy setup
Right away, if the guy is willing to come on the video, preach his product, and let your guys take it through site testing, that shows belief in a good product. Cant wait to see how it performs.
The dewalt miter stands have crap ends and extension clamps, but I still have a few in service. Still the best ive had so far.
Add Fastcap best fence to your Dewalt stand.
Looks like a serious kit for the right type of graft.
Anyone know the price for the pro kit?
This is an interesting product. I weighed up all my options for a mitre saw stand and settled on a WST01. it takes 4 minutes Maximum to setup. The setup time is critical if you want to make money in this game. This guy is a framer and i cant see how when you are framing from the ground up and taking literaly hours out of your day to set up, them move it around as the frame goes up and have to deal with such an expensive system. The table saw stand has merit but i dont see how this is in any way innovative. It seems like something that i would set up if i was fitting a 30 room house and needed a reliable one time setup solution but i dont see the dividends from a framers perspective.
Do you do a material list? I love your buildings but unfortunately not in your area. I am skilled when it comes to building things, but I’m a little scared to jump on something this large without a proper list of material
“Now that it’s all setup, all we have to do” after an hour to set it up lmao
The first time, he has used it many times since and it goes up much faster once you have it set up for your particular saws. I would definitely still buy it just for the room to spread out and the stop for repetitious cuts. I do HVAC so it is hard to justify for myself though.
I'm all about quality, speed and accurate cuts. I believe this is the ticket. Thanks for showing us. This guy needs a buy it now button on his website. I'm sorry but I'm not gonna let my customers see me using aluminum step ladders to cut my material. . Smh...and for those guys who say it's complicated, well so was your first smartphone and all those tick marks on your tape measure. Plus you can still sell your old stand. Kyle, maybe on the next video you can show a stopwatch on a field set up (yes on uneven ground).
Really you wont let your customers see you using aluminum steps and plywood for an outfeed table. WHY? What a joke! Do u even have customers ? Give your head a shake. Do you let your customers see dirt on your hands or that would be horrific?
@@mikejackson6862
Come on, you should know better. They are called gloves and they cover all your fingers including your thumb when its not up something...soap is also an inexpensive item you might want to consider. In my opinion only professionals invest, others buy more ladders.
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I checked out their (his) web site. No prices listed. You have to e-mail your information to get pricing.
Looks cool. I think Ron Paulk’s setup is faster to set up. This is too complicated
not sure how this is complicated...its actually super simple
Looks pretty simple to me???
It is
I have a Ron Paulk bench but this table saw bench certainly looks awesome
AND... So great for picnics!
I want this!
Ron Paulk will use Dave’s saw stand to hold his beer cooler while Dave holds his beer.
That's a beautiful miter saw stand but I have a couple of concerns, how would it perform on uneven ground, it looks like more of a semi-permanent shop saw stand than a field saw stand and perhaps that is what it is intended to do? Set up time, seems like quite a bit of time to tune this rascal in. The cost, while admittedly a beautiful saw stand with all that aluminum I can't see it being cheap. That said I would be interested in learning more about the Cut Hub for my shop. Great video.
I've fully set it up once so far on site...fully and easily adjustable feet for uneven ground...took me 6 minutes by myself first time on site
Can see it clearly has adjustable feet.
6 minutes is actually faster then I expected
And I'm sure it would be quicker than 6 minutes once you get used to it.
Need to see each step of set up, what brands of saws will it fit( if it doesn't accept any because of size, height, etc), and the cost, as well. All features, benefits, differences.
Chrisell looks like each leg has a part that slides out. Also I bet when Kyle goes out and uses it on-site we’ll get better answers to that.
Doesn’t really seem like a ‘shop’ tool though. It’s so expensive because it’s designed around being portable.
Looks like a great product! I think it has to grow on you,.. it needs some setup time and setup thinkering, but if you have that done ✅ it easy. I believe I n your work situations you show on RUclips, you mostly do not have concrete slab available. So this setup needs always leg adjustment because it is used on earth or gravel underground.
I am surprised that you weren't at the Northern Illinois farm show in DeKalb this week. You would have been the only real builder there.
I want to know how it is
Looks really well made, but I can’t imagine that setup and even the cheapest jobsite saw around is gonna be cheaper than a high end tracksaw. With Festool, Makita, and Dewalt all having cordless setups with as much power as a corded I think the jobsite tablesaw is on its way out of many of the trades.
Nothing will replace a table saw for fast, repeatable, accurate rips in small or large stock.
Uh, no. The table saw isn't going anywhere in carpentry. What trade are you in that made you think that was true?
Hehehe
Very well built and smart design, best feature is the table saw outriggers, love it!
If it's half as good as it looks, it'll be a winner!!!
I can't belie all the Condemnation prior to investigation. Chill out till we see the next video. It's not like some guy walked onto a job site and after 2 weeks starts saying ya'll are doing it all wrong...
The guy who built this has had the same thoughts everyone is mentioning.
Looks like a quality piece of gear. My only concern is it’s size. That’s a decent chunk of real estate you’re giving up in your trailer. Have you found a permanent storage solution in your trailer Kyle? Just laying it in the floor when it’s not setup. I’d be interested to hear about how well it stores because if it’s a pain to get out and store every day...
Like the guy. Love the look and concept of the products.
But like so many others have said - not posting the price is a horrible marketing strategy.
It's the same as those people who put a car to the road for sale but don't bother to include the asking price on the windshield or the sign. Do these people think they can sell it to me "if they can just talk to me."
The average customer knows what they can afford. If your product is worth it to them, and they can afford your asking price, then they will either buy it or at least pursue negotiations.
By not including the pricing, they have turned away untold numbers of people - including some who,had they known the price or price range, would have purchased the product. I'm one of them. If a seller doesn't include the price, I walk away. I'm not going to chase after a seller to find out the price. Like someone else stated here, if they don't post their prices it tells me that even they, the seller, know the number is too high. News flash - a seller will NEVER convince me to buy an item. Show me the item, give me a number and then "I" decide. Why don't people understand this. It's like the Lambo dealership - "if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it". But again, it looks to be an amazing product. And the guy seems very likable. I respect and wish him well in this business.
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So the idea is to set this up every morning on site? I guess it’ll be ready by lunch time for an hour or ripping before they need to start dismantling it all.
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As a DIYer, I can tell straight off the bat that this is out of my price range and requirements. But then I might only make a dozen cuts a day. A professional/team who makes hundreds of cuts a day might well find the sticker shock easier to get over once the safety and time efficiencies are accounted for.
The only real efficiency I can see is the setup time. Other than it being a status symbol and or being "perty", it doesn't do anything that can't be accomplished through other much cheaper means. A professional/team may buy it if they are very light on their tools, and haven't had any issues with theft then I could see it especially for trim work.
All in all I can see this being bought from the occasional diyer with more money than sense, and the occasional professional who's just starting out and don't know any better.
To clarify on the "light on their tools" bit. If you notice when they lean on it how much flex it has. That isn't a huge deal, it's mainly the way it is made. Lateral forces like if a 2x10 fell from say 5ft and hit it on the corner and pushed it inward it would almost certainly buckle. That or any number of scenarios that could happen. That's why a lot of these kinds of things are cheap because they will need to be replaced when shit happens. Spending 1500 to 3500 or more on something like this you would just about expect to be able to back a truck into it and it be fine.
As a framer this wouldn't be very useful. Get a $34 kreg rip guide and cut your plywood on your sawhorses. And you don't need chopsaw accurate cuts on long lvls that are structural components. Might be nice for TJIs but I prefer floor trusses for the labor savings. Would market this to trim guys, that can leave it set up for a few days or weeks.
Ron paulk total work station all the way
Paulk Compact Station (once built) is way cheaper, more functional and abuseable/mendable .. nice shot, but way too prissy and not developed at the details
@@gregcoste5332 I'm sticking with my Paulk Miter Station and Paulk Compact Workbench for now, but I really do need to build a Paulk Workbench 2 at some stage and probably the new Paulk Total Station 2 at some stage. Doesn't matter what job you're doing, you never seem to have quite enough work surface or clamps. :)
I just did a large 4 br 2 bath vaulted ceiling home's crown molding. I did custom molding for the kitchen cabinets. Set up my Ron Paulk modified 3'x 6' table, with my ridgid 1/2" drop in router, along with my ridgid R4517 table saw. My miter saw which is an older 7.25" lightweight Kobalt(which i love) on a ridgid miter saw stand i got on sale for last year on black friday for $100. I so wish i'd of bought two. Anyway, i modified it with a reinforced half inch thick plywood support, and sliding maple stops. I backed up to the houses garage, and was operational in an easy 30 minutes. While that saw stand is a bit bulky, i have no problems loading it into my van or trailer with the saw on it. It is tough and sets up in a minute. I have a dedicated vacuum with one of those switches that turns the vacuum on as you cut. Clients really appreciate no dust. I'm not building houses, but as a finish or trim guy, i've found this set up to be better than anything other than a shop, and wherever i go, people seem pretty impressed with it. Total cost for all of this? Way under $1k. Way. Oh, and super good high end blades and bits for all tools.
@@deanaoxo Got it.
Thats exactly what I was thinking throughout this entire video.
Look for the Paulk Total station, way more practical, and less expensive.
Easy to Use
Interested to see the version 2.0...perhaps less costly, easier to set up, faster to setup type thing...peace