I think he knows people have an interest in this subject so he’s milking it. Instead of giving us more content and richer context he’s milking this subject making quick soundbites for clout
Because one was a cartoon that wasn’t watch by the vast majority of general audiences. The black Panther movie on the other had was seen by many many people. You’re comparing how people weren’t upset about it then versus now, yet outside of comic book fans and kids who watched EMH? The black Panther movie was marketed world wide. Several people didn’t even know EMH existed till after it cancelled unfortunately
@@nont18411 true but in the movie itself, I think his performance is OK at best and then they end up, killing off his most iconic villain, and then nerfing his other big name villain to a sidekick role. Then everyone else praising Killmonger like he’s the second coming of Christ just bugs the hell out of me and they still kill him off
The Black Panther movie lost me when they killed off the supporting villains. Not only was it a waste of good characters (I legitimately liked what they were doing with Klaw) but it also made me wonder: what the point of the first half of the movie? Why didn't Killmonger's plan start with killing Klaw when they first met, and then enacting his master plan? Maybe the movie did explain that, but I never cared enough to rewatch it to find out. Also, what they did with the Skrulls was criminal. ....Unless they are revealed to be the evil force we know and hate from the comics, in which case Carol Danvers is the true villain for letting them settle on Earth!
For the Thanos fights, it is greatly implied that he was holding back and that with each stone, there was a choice to either give up the stone or sacrifice someone (though with the soul stone, he had to give up his person to get it).
Everything in the MCU is a little nerfed compared to their comic counterparts. Especially the infinity gauntlet. 1. The movie itself states that with just 2 stones, Thanos is the most powerful being in the galaxy. Therefore, he should have been able to handle the Avengers easily. 2. Another limitation the movie added is that he had to clench his fist to use the stones - to give the heroes a chance and seemingly wasn't capable of using more than one, maybe 2 at a time (might just be he didn't think to combine them). 3. He had to have been holding back otherwise he would have just killed people on sight. Instead he merely incapacitated the Guardians, everyone defending Vision and didn't kill anyone on Titan.
And I love how MCU fanboys are claiming that Thanos in the comics was a simp, and killed only because of that. No, Thanos doesn't kill in the comics because he's a simp. He kills in the comics simply because he can. Thanos in the comics is a madman, who seeks infinite power to call hymself a god, but when he gets it, he has no idea what to do with it (plus, somewhere deeply he understands that he isn't worthy of said power, which is why he keeps loosing). There was even a short comic where Thanos just decided to ruin one guy's almost every birthday simply because flark him, I guess. The dude got himself a nickname Mad Titan not because he came out with the idiotic plan to "fix" overpopulation by comitting a genocide, but because he was a living incarnation of insanity. Even him "simping" for Lady Death was there more to show just how insane Thanos truly is, since the only person he fallen in love with was a literal incarnation of Death itself. Also, in "Infinity Gauntlet" it was Lady Death who wanted half the population in the Universe gone, not Thanos. She brought him back to acomplish this mission, but Thanos himself didn't give a shit about it. He used it as an excuse to collect all stones, and then was mostly busy having the time of his life playing God and bossing around Mephisto. When he eventually did snaped half the population of the Universe, he did it only to please Lady Death who was pissed at him for using her.
You know how bad the creatives of the C.U.M. are WHEN EVEN THE CW ARROWVERSE HAS MORE MEMORABLE VILLAINS WITH COMIC ACCURATE SUITS (Deathstroke, Wintergreen, Reverse Flash, Dark Archer, Zoom, Bizarro Superman, Onomatopoeia, etc.)
I think the mcu needs to take itself more seriously. People love serious super hero stuff. It doesn't have to be super action but the mcu should stop seeing itself as a joke and quick cash grab and start telling amazing stories again and the money will come naturally
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 but the reboot card despawned. They would have to can all of their new stuff and start fresh. No monopoly would do that even if it would be the correct move
I agree with most of what you’re saying but there’s one thing I take issue with. That being when you said Thanos could have doubled resources or something. The thing is that that isn’t the point. Thanos is a narcissist and wants to prove to the universe that he was right all along. Doing anything differently would go against his motivation. This becomes especially apparent after Endgame where he decides to create a new universe full of people grateful to him. Thanos was never about actually helping people
That may be true, but it's also a little lame and doesn't really address his arguments, instead merely saying he's wrong because he's simply a delusional asshole (it is also contradicted slightly by the "What If?" series, where he's actually talked out of it by T'challa). Not helping things is that behind the scenes video and interviews with the writers indicate that they seem to think Thanos actually does have a valid argument, which suggests that he's only a narcissist because they couldn't think of a way to rebut him and just went the easy route. In truth, there is a bunch of problems with his arguments beyond the fact that he's egotistical and resorts to genocide, such as overpopulation not actually working the way he says it does, but the film doesn't contradict him (un-filmed scenes would have even implied he was factually correct) as the characters don't even attempt to poke holes in his logic...because, as said, the writers didn't seem to realise what these holes even were (not did way too many fans of him). It also undermines the fact that they changed him into a more sympathetic villain who at least likes to believe that he's actually working for some greater good, rather than the cruel and sadistic death-obsessed madman he was in the comics- might as well have kept him as he was in that case.
I disagree with a lot of this. For one I don’t really care what the team behind it says though the Russo brothers have said Thanos only wants to prove he’s right. For What If, I don’t love what it did but it’s not the fault of IW or Endgame. And finally I disagree with the idea that the movies imply Thanos’ actions to be helpful. He says he’d helped Gamora’s people but we only have his word and for all we know he might simply believe this to be the case without actually knowing. From what we’re shown, Thanos’ actions are portrayed as a very bad thing. They cause extreme economic distress, tons of collateral damage such as car crashes, and extreme trauma for the survivors. Never once is he portrayed as noble despite what idiots on the internet seem to think.
@@ethanmillward675 Cap says that pollution has lessened since the Snap, although he's obviously trying to see the positive side of a crappy situation. We only have Thanos's word that Gamora's people are doing better, but we don't see anything to contradict his claim either. My point though was that there was going to be a scene where Thanos was in space prison and saw Titan slowly die from his window, which implies Thanos was correct or at least that nobody on Titan ever found an alternative. I don't think Thanos would dispute that his actions lead to trauma or economic disaster; he would just say that it's a necessary and temporary evil, although of course he's genocidally annoyed that five years isn't enough for people to "get over it".
My response to the whole Titan situation is that we only have Thanos’ word to go by. He’s going to find ways to make himself the one who’s right. Another thing I noticed about it is how simplistic he makes the situation out to be. I know this is more real world logic than movie logic but usually when there’s a very easy answer to anything it’s at best incomplete and outright wrong at worst. I think this applies here. To me, Thanos is pretty clearly made to be seen as a delusional madman
@@ethanmillward675 The fact that you keep saying "to me" undermines your argument- it might be clear "to you" but it isn't clear to anyone else. It doesn't matter that we only have Thanos's word to go on these things, because nothing else in the film contradicts him, and my point about the unfilmed scene is that the writers themselves believed he was telling the truth about how things went down. The movie doesn't show any characters poking holes in his logic- in real life, overpopulation doesn't work the way he thinks it does (it's as much about resource management as scarcity); furthermore killing a mere 50% of the population would be traumatic but recoverable in only a few decades (going purely by his own logic, he should have killed MORE than 50%, honestly); nobody actually visits the world's he culled to see if things really have improved or not (indeed Cap's comments about the rivers being cleaner than before the Snap indicates Thanos was on to something) etc No characters properly challenge Thanos on his logic or evidence- they express horror at his actions and they (correctly) think he's being arrogant and single-minded, but nobody actively tries to disprove him...because, based on behind-the-scenes stuff the writers have said, they themselves seem not to see any holes in his logic either (such holes exist, they just didn't see them), probably because they don't know enough about the topic of overpopulation in the first place (neither do most viewers, which is why so many people wrongly think Thanos had a point). They make Thanos a narcissist because that's their way of making a villain who (in their eyes) "has a point", while still making him fundamentally a villain who needs to be stopped, and Endgame Thanos opting to destroy the entire universe and remaking it into a more grateful one is just to illustrate that (along with simply being a way to "up the stakes", and not be a total repeat of Infinity War, which again just means they are screenwriters). But no character sits down and says "Thanos, you're an idiot- here's why", and if you aren't taking it for granted that he's wrong to begin with (and the writers themselves did not), then the movie itself is suggesting he is seeing a real problem and offering a real solution, rather than seeing an imaginary problem or offering a solution that wouldn't actually solve the problem even if it was real, instead saying Thanos is un the wrong simply because he's a dick.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that mask Killmonger wore. Honestly he should gave worn it through out the movie. That thing looked sick. Also kinda funny how Disney never kills off there heros, but then they allow interesting Villiains to die after just one movie.
IRON MAN VR MADE A GREAT JOB MODERNIZING GHOST: -They made her ambigously evil(She's Bad but you can make a truce with her) -Her powers are used in a creative way -The Game EXPLOTES & TAKES ADVANTAGE of her terrifying nature -They Made her AN ACTUAL THREAT -She was played masterfully by Chantelle Barry -They show her being sympathethic but also remember she's a SUPERVILLAIN
& also Armored adventures took a lot of advantage of the character showing him as a recurrent treat & being the main mind behind the Armor Wars *MEN, WHAT A GREAT SHOW WAS ARMORED ADVENTURES*
I saw that show too! It was Awesome! MCU could taken some notes and used those villains in the iron man movies. Imagine If In Iron Man 2, The Mandarin Be The Big Villain Instead And Tony Stark Had To Fight His Rouge Gallery Like Madame Masque, Crimson Dynamo, Blizzard, The Living Laser, etc.
With The Help Of Some Avengers Like War Machine and Hawkeye For Example, They Would Have To Defeat Those Villains One By One To Build Up To The Mandarin As The Final Boss. The Movie Would Of Been Way Better If It Weren’t For Shane Black… 😑😑😑
They Could Of Had Iron Man 3 And Used The Full Comic Book Storyline As Justin Hammer As the Main Villain. Then Iron man 4 With Armor Wars. Such A Missed Opportunity.
@@CartoonSociety-in9ci too bad Shane Black appeared in the equation *FORTUNATELY* he's currently blacklisted from Hollywood for multiple x*n*ph*bic acusations
I pointed out the Killmonger issue a while back. It frightens me that people think of him as "tragic" villain. He is basically black Hitler and Wakanda is a bit dodgy as well. A racially pure, technological advanced, isolationist, military dictator state. Adolf would be jealous
I don’t have an issue with wakanda but you’re right on killmonger. Wakanda is just an isolationist nation with lots of technological advancements. That’s perfectly fine that they wish to protect their own interests and stay out of global affairs. And since it’s an African nation that has stayed completely out of global affairs, why would there be non black people there? It’s like saying why aren’t there tons of white people in Mongolia. But killmonger basically being black hitler, I wouldn’t say that’s EXACTLY right but close enough.
@@srstriker6420 well with the high evolutionary he wants to CREATE a new species which I presume would have separate races. Maybe, maybe not. The genocide part absolute yes, but I think his motivations and goals were very different from Hitler’s whereas killmonger, he isn’t EXACTLY the same but he really isn’t that far off
I've been wondering what's your opinion on how Guardians 3 handles Adam Warlock, there are small references to the religious themes of the Roy Thomas and Jim Starlin runs with a short shot mirroring the painting "The Creation of Adam". But Adam's actual character is treated as a naive child-like man who can barely process what's actually happening, with little resemblance to the comics. I don't even know how they could go about adapting the Magus Arc in this state.
I feel like he's like that for the next film maker who takes on the Guardians to improve on what Gunn set up This was his last movie and you can tell he was far more interested in wrapping up the stories of the team he's been in charge of for the past 9 years Could Adam been handled better? Absolutely but the next film maker they get can improve where Gunn left off
With Thanos, the key thing is that he is the MAD titan. He doesn't want to double resources, he wants to prove his point. Also, before you rip into Endgame Thanos, you have to remember that it's the younger and more bloodthirsty Thanos (the one who promised to bathe the stairways with Ronan's blood). Thanos in inifity war seems to mellow out with each stone he gets. He takes off his armor, he knows he is unstoppable, he is determined, and it is his movie. I'm Endgame, the younger Thanos didn't go through the ordeals to get the gauntlet. He is sure he will win. He is cocky and bloodthirsty, and it isn't his movie, it's the swan song for the original lineup of Avengers. So yeah, he takes a bit of a downgrade, but they do kill off the wiser and older Thanos at the start, so that character basically served his purpose.
The Problem With The Film Is That They Didn’t Showcase T’challa Intelligence (In The Comics, He’s a Scientist/Inventor.) Or his Martial Art Skills We Saw At Civil War. Also Shuri Should Of Been Like Okoye. She’s A Strong Warrior Who’s Strict And Discipline.
They Forgot To Introduce Thanos Father (Mentor) And His Grandfather, (Kronos) Who Brought Drax Back To Life, (Who was a human at the time) and turn him into a Secret Weapon.
I don't mean to be fixing up holes for Marvel, but I think it's pretty safe to say that that wasn't the full power of the Infinity Stones. I mean, we SEE what happens when someone uses the full power of the Infinity Gauntlet. In general, the Gauntlet is significantly nerfed from the comics with characters like Captain Marvel and Iron Man being capable of tanking Power Stone attacks
thor mentions something along the lines of the dwarves having made the gauntlet, and the dwarves also made stormbreaker, so they’re able to destroy each other… doesn’t explain how it beats the stones though
*5:38** SPEAKING OF, IRON MAN ARMORED ADVENTURES SHOWED FUNIER & MORE CREATIVE THE USE OF COSMIC POWERS WITH THE MANDARIN'S RINGS, Instead of just being an exchange of Beams & Punches like RICK HARRISON'S GAUNTLET in the C.U.M.*
I will never like Thanos, simply because his big "tragedy" was that he had no imagination. He had the INFINITY stones. He had, by the name's very definition, INFINITY ways to solve the problem of overpopulation and lack of resources: he could make the universe bigger, he could slow down metabolism, he could create planets with the sole purpose of agriculture or farming. But no, he used them to kill. The stones are tools. He CHOSE to turn them into a weapon -,-
Comic book Drax was human jazz musician Arthur Douglas, he and his family were killed by Thanos. Thanos' father A' Lars (Mentor) had long been plagued by the horror his son became. He was haunted by his responsibility in the mad titans genocide, deicide, infanticide, and most painful to Mentor was the matricide Thanos commuted when he murdered his own mother, Mentor's wife Sui-San. Desperate to bring an end to the evil he sired, he reached out to Thanos' grandfather, Kronos an elder celestial and one of the original rulers of the Eternals of earth before the colonies in Uranus and Titan were formed. Kronos transformed himself into a cosmic god of space and time through experimentation with cosmic energy. Together Kronos and Mentor plotted to build the perfect weapon to fell their son/grandson. Arthur Douglas was a perfect vessel due to the tragedy he suffered as Thanos' hands. They could not save his family, but Arthur has a flicker of life left, and a begin born of an inherent vengeance was the perfect foundation. Mentor and Kronos used their combined abilities to fashion a formidable corporeal humanoid body far superior to average beings and enhanced in many ways. They then transferred Arthur's consciousness to the body. His memories were fuzzy and unclear, but he absolutely knew his purpose, and among his many physical abilities he also had the innate ability to seek and find the mad Titan anywhere in the cosmos. Drax eventually succeeded in his mission, but it was all for naught as after he used his superhumanly dense hand to rip out Thanos' beating heart, he watched in awe as the Titan was reconstituted before his eyes. It seems death herself, Thanos' lady love had forsaken him, and he was truly deathless. (Drax killed Thanos several more times, but that was inside the cancerverse where death had died and life was unchecked). Fun fact, Thanos and his brother Eros(star fox the horny avenger) are the only two Eternals ever to be conceived and born biologically. The celestials created the Eternals to be essentially sterile and forbade them from attempts at reproduction. While they simultaneously creates the deviants with the ability to breed out of control and each birth created and entirely new species regardless of the parentage. So 100 Eternals remained 100, but 100 deviants became millions.
Great Video Dude!!!👍 1:43 Now I definitely agree On That Part. In the Comics Originally, T'challa Didn't Made His Suit Out Of Armor. It was Just Made Out of Cloth. It would of Been way better if the suit was just all cloth and not armor. It would've have to show T'challa having to dodge attacks that would been lethal and raise the stakes. The Same Scene We Saw In Civil War. When He Fought Bucky In the Stair Scene Without The Suit. Panther was Showing Off his Super human Strength and Skills. If the Movie Did That, The Fight Scenes Would Of Been Way Better. It would of shown the True Powers of the Black Panther. Imagine If Black Panther Fought Erik Killmonger in A Brutal Hand To Hand Fist Fight With The Same Level Of Emotion Like Iron man Vs. Cap And Bucky. No CGI Mess, No Suit Of Armor, None of That Boirng Same Power Abilities…
I know right! They could do much more than have The Standard Final Battle with both the hero and villain having the same powers without any stakes. Especially now that basically Everyone has an Iron Man Suit….
The Infinity gauntlet in the MCU doesn't really seem to be exactly like the one in the comics When you put on the gauntlet in comics, it's like you see and know everything and it doesn't seem to hurt you after each use. You are a god essentially, with an unlimited amount of power The MCU one just hurts you and might kill the user
It would imo make more sense if you could know or do anything and everything with the Gauntlet. Also I guess I'm the only nerd that thinks powers need drawbacks. I didn't mind that some people needed to be strong enough to withstand it. But yeah, the comic version sounds cooler
Erik Killmonger's actual backstory: Parents were killed by raiders led by a traitor of the Golden Realm who sold out secrets of his home nation to Ulysees Klaue. Killmonger was taken and raised abroad by hateful people, and given a new name N'Jadaka, and identity by those who had robbed him of paradise. He was exploited N'Jadaka for his gifts of intelligence by his surrogate father M'Demwe, the very same who murdered his family before taking him into the outside world. All the while, N'Jadaka fostered a deep resentment towards everyone and everything for all the horrible events that he experienced, while his future nemesis T'Challa would be crowned king after the death of his father. Eventually, N'Jadaka grew tired of his life in servitude and his childhood of hardship, and executed M'Demwe, brutally shooting, then stabbing the traitor to death, before going out on his own path and changing his name to Erik Killmonger. Marvel: Nah, we gotta black this shit up. Commence operation, pander to black people. Insert "The black plight."
I like your takes because they’re not just “Marvel woke, evil company, hurdur”. I can tell that you have a genuine passion and want to see the company do better as opposed to wanting to laugh at their failures.
Marvel is woke though, but the good thing that having these nuanced takes is that, outside of the obnoxious socio-political narratives pushed in these films today, it allows us to view from another angle. That angle being that there has been major writing flaws throughout this franchise from day one.
@@CIA871 yeah but everyone says the same generic line with the same takes. Woke is bastardized atp said for anything. In fact the original term has nothing to do with virtue signaling bs.
@@bully61 "Original meaning" wtf does that even matter? The fact you know what i'm referring to shows that this is the consensus meaning, also i've never head it used any other way lol. I still use the term personally because it's important to call out political propaganda in films. But yes I would say there are grifters, who call everything woke just for money.
@@CIA871 the original meaning matters because it is now being applied to where it doesn't make sense. Being woke is like being outside of the matrix being attentive to reality and uncovering truth; exposing the way the government treats people. This can apply to any community that feels they are under attack in regards to certain policy's and what not. It has nothing to do with identity politics or LGBTQ movements or whatever bs that gets coined and thrown in. One point I'd like to leave on to explain why it's important to know the original meaning of something, is that the swastika for example was once know as a sign for peace and harmony in many civilizations. It was stolen to be used for negativity. Today it is exclusively known as a hate sign. Woke is slowing being turned into nothing but a buzz word for the crazies atp.
I'm not sure why they seem so afraid of powerful villains, Thanos being the exception before. I know its something we've talked about before, but I don't think there's really a limit to how strong writers should make villians, the more powerful they are, the more interesting it will be to see how the heroes manage to go against them, assuming you avoid plotholes/cheap macguffins/inconsistency in the writing and work out the solution to the villians power in some way with integrity. Heroes being too powerful just makes things be uninteresting and have no drama. I miss the stakes being high.
My favourite thing is people saying “what makes you think thanos could create infinite resources? That’s just too much” meanwhile they’re literally the INFINITY stones.
These videos are fantastic! And I wouldn't mind seeing you discuss Spy Kids either. Those films were my childhood. As were those Inspector Gadget live-action movies, lol.
To the Killmonger part I would like to add that his goal and origins stand from the fact neither he or his father learned that every race, culture and country participaded in slavery at that time period
I'll be honest... And this is speaking from the perspective of having only seen the first film before Chadwick's passing... They rushed Killmonger's character. They should've found a way to keep him as a returning enemy for T'Challa. Or save him for a sequel. That said, given what ends up happening in real life... I'm flad we got to see them both conclude they're character arcs early.
Ant Man and the Wasp's biggest misstep was teasing Bill Foster growing big (meaning Giant Man could've had a rival on equal footing), making him work with the villain... and never involving him in the final battle! I wanted to see a giant Lawrence Fishburne sock Giant Man in the face, dammit!
Well I think that they should have brought Mitchell Carson in Antman and the Wasp to up that loose end, Maybe Whirlwind should have been the movie as he had a infatuation on the Wasp in the comics that he disguised himself as her personal driver and Moonstone for Captain Marvel. Don’t forget to mention the Sovereign in the next video as the high priestess is supposed to be Adam Warlock’s Eve in the comics and the High Evolutionary, Mysterio being a Stark employee was pretty forced and lazy, Gorr just feels like he’s from a different movie like a horror movie monster.
You forgot to mention the most evil villain of the bunch: The Don. While characters like Loki may want to invade a planet, The Don asks women to smile. Thank goodness Captain Marvel broke his hand and stole his motorcycle to end his villainous career.
@@changvasejarik62 I was thinking more of Legal Eagle interpretation. If I was thinking EFAP, I would have mentioned his tragic backstory of losing his wife to cancer 6 months earlier.
Ghost Is Like DeathStroke Mixed With Spike From Cowboy Bebop. In The Comics. Would Of Been Cool If They Showed That Version Of Him. He’s an Iron Man Villain Though…
Regarding Thanos..... Snapping his finger nearly killed him. Creating infinite resources is probably not a single snap thing, as different worlds need different recourses and that's very complicated to do. 1 snap to cut the population in half is pretty much to the point.
Really??? You aren't that pissed off by how they utilized the scrolls and the kree??? The scrolls most especially??? They made them the good guys fighting for freedom and they only want to leave the galaxy and they're now helping fury to act as a double whilst he does other stuffs... Do you think with the way they were represented in captain marvel as oppressed groups of the kree that the scrolls would ever be used as a villain??? I was expecting more push back from you concerning the wasted scrolls... They're never going to be used as a villain again which would be a waste because of how their shape shifting would have good for a compelling secret invasion, but there's no way captain marvel would ever make a mistake with who she chooses to save... They're good now and we have to love with it...
@@bobthebuilder5680 thanks 😊😊😊 I listen to the audio comics, I don't read them so I had no idea how to spell it... Even their name sounds evil, it's just skull with an R and a different pronunciation, you can tell what a writer was thinking for a character or group just based on their name alone...
i liked man ape in EMH there he killed T'Chaka and took over wakanda . i really miss the villain side of him because no way in hell would man ape let himself be sidelined for being ruler of wakanda when the black Panther dies , there is just no way especially to a freaking teenager
The MCU lost me after Dr Strange scanned 14,000,000 timelines, and none of them involved him portal-chopping Thanos's head or arm like he did to bad guy earlier in the movie. Endgame was made on your ability to overlook that glaring plot hole. That said, I've been a DC comic guy. Never read marvel comics with a few Captain America, Iron Man and X Men exceptions growing up. So if there was a legitimate reason Dr Strange couldn't do that while Thanos was hypnotized, or why he couldn't rewind tim to before Star Lord threw his tantrum, it escaped me or was not terribly obvious
@@lithosagymfan they could have teleported him elsewhere or told him "Hey man, he's going to say some effed up things, just wait until we get the gauntlet off to beat the crap out of him". Or they could have just told star lord to not act like a pissed off teenager on the rag. 14M time lines and they all. Included star lord being as emotionally intelligent as a high school kid and no one being able to do anything about it? Nah I don't buy it
@@lithosagymfan then that sounds like lazy writing to me, especially since, again, arguments like these typically include people doing the storytelling FOR the writers, but without pay. The only "greater good" i can think of is a money-making sequel surrounded by plot armor. Endgame was entertaining, indeed, but it didn't need to happen if strange just took the extra 1 to 2 seconds to do some portal-chopping. Could have been at the shoulder so his cape and Spiderman didn't get hurt. Or at the very least, he should have explained at some point after that incident why not a single of the 14M timelines would have worked. No I'm not saying to go line-by-line, but at least something. "If we cut his arm off and got the gauntlet now, then X, Y, Z might have happened." Otherwise, if it was for this "greater good," why not explain to them to just let him have the gauntlet abs that they'll get it later? Which he kind of hinted at. But again, why resist at all at that point? I just don't see the logic.
only issue with killmonger is that if he woulda just wanted to offer more resources to africa and african americas then i thnk tchalla would agree given thats what he did in the end of the movie.
Killmonger is relatable because he does have a legitimate grievance. That he had a point to make, a lesson to teach the hero, and an actual injustice to rectify, but went too far in trying to do so, is the point. The goal of liberation shouldn't be to swap the power dynamics and get the oppressed people to the top. It should be to end oppression, period. The ending fight still sucked though.
3:21. As a young black man, the only thing I can say in response is a quote from my favorite captain america movie "By holding a gun to everyone on earth and calling it protection..... This isn't freedom, this is fear."
@@clarenceandgennymcneil251 MCU tony stark's character arc is suppoused to be he no longer make weapons but HE KEPT CONTINUE MAKIKG MASS DESTRUCTION WEAPONS(even after his death) I can only say XD
The stones doesn't give you forever powers... What you do with the stones still has to follow what the stones can do... The people that disappeared was from the reality, time and soul stones, reality to take away the body, time to increase how long the effects of the stones last for which is forever and soul stone to take away their souls, the mind stone made him reach everyone in the universe using their mind and randomized them, the space stone increased the reach of the stones and the power stone increased the power of the stones... He can't just wish food into existence, he can't just wish anything into existence... But I do agree that they freaking nerfed him in that fight... That's because Hollywood don't know how to use powers creatively and they follow power scaling a lot with generic blasts and punches... Dr strange should have been the one in charge of messing with the power of the gauntlet... Spider man should have been doing the restraining not punching, he should only focus on restraining from a distance... Drax would be their close range and be the one in harge of punches, it would have made sense if it was the hulk instead of wasting him in wakanda for no freaking reason, war machine or bucky should have been the one riding that hulk buster not freaking banner, what a waste... Star lord would be the mid ranger, peppering Thanos with mid range continuous shot whilst zooming around him with his levitation shoes and utilize other gadgets like granades and the gravity thing to destabilize Thanos continuously and they can add some coolness with gun Fu like fighting also involved... Tony would be the long ranger who would be firing lasers and missiles and blinding Thanos with dust clouds, doing all these from a distance, only swooping in unexpectedly from thanos' back with blinding speed (this is to give Thanos a chance to catch him during the change of the tables, it makes sense here because tony swooping in would also add to the pandemonium Thanos is facing against the constant barrage from different places before he has time to recover and face one person, so Tony's sudden unpredictable swoops would help add to the confusion)... And big girl does what she did in the movie, waiting on the sidelines for strange to teleport her in when Thanos has been wared down and temporarily restrained by drax holding his hands, spiderman continuously webbing him in place, strange holding down his movements and nerfing the magic of the stone, star lord now continuously shooting him with stuns not bullets, to keep Thanos immobilized and losing his strength whilst tony grabs on to the gauntlet and revs his engines trying to fly at top speed away with the gauntlet and using that force to pull out of thanos' hand as the mind girl does what she did in the movie... This way, Thanos breaking out of his trance won't be from something as very very stupid and pointless and unsatisfying as star lord freaking punching Thanos, as in that was very very very dumb and unbelievable... Star lord would either shoot Thanos very wildly starting from his face and around his body because he's shaking in anger with his real gun continuously which doesn't kill thanos but hits with enough impact on his face first to bring him out of the trance from his pain and the mind girl would get overwhelmed by the pain as well, and star lord's remaining bullets to thanos' torso would start ripping Spiderman's webs restraining Thanos apart and make it easier for Thanos to break free and some of the bullet would hit drax on the face making him let go of Thanos immediately from the pain which just destroyed everything for them making mind girl and Tony seating ducks with no protection or star lord would be so lost at the news of gamora's death and stop the stunning and become out of it and stop participating when Thanos enters back into the fight which destroys their teamwork and makes drax a seating duck... Either way works and doesn't rely on a convenient bout of stupidity from star lord to achieve something so pointless and not realistic at all... This way, everyone is unique to the fight and adding their specialization to the teamwork rather than punching each other and destroying the power levels... This way, Thanos never gets to use not even half of the true power of the stones or override with thought the simple nerfing magic strange his using on the gauntlet because his focus and attention would be broken and extremely divided with different types of attacks coming from different places continuously, simultaneously and extremely swiftly one after another with the webs to deal with and the constant explosion and dust clouds and sudden swoops of Tony... He won't be able to focus or breathe... They made a mistake making the fight a blow to blow fight instead of letting them overwhelm him with attacks after attacks, numbers and teamwork before he even has the chance to counter... That is fighting smart but they wanted a back and forth for the cool aspect which just makes Thanos look weak and not make the avengers look intelligent for not planning on how they would face him...
The sheer amount of people who thought that Thanos' plan made sense is mind melting. Less people dosen't mean there are more resources to go around. Where do people think resources come from? PEOPLE MAKE THE RESOURCES!!! Less people = less resources
Thanos did deliberately hold back, he genuinely thought that his 50/50 genocide was the right thing to do, and wanted to kill as little people as possible before hand so that the snap would be 100% fair, hence why none of the avengers died (other than the snap).
Killmonger was a billion times better than Thanos as a villain and a character. There's literally nothing about Thanos outside of being a big CGI action scene generator, which is probably why all the RUclips movie bros flock towards him. He's literally Malekith with slightly better screen presence.
My problem with killmonger is that they try to make him a sympathetic and understandable villain but then he acts randomly evil like killing that old lady in the garden...
Missed a HUGE joke opportunity by not going, "And now it's time to talk about the villain of Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel." then give a completely straight-faced review of her villainous actions and costume design.
Infinite War was good for the most part but it made 5 decisions that I cannot overlook and forgive: 1. Vibranium is suddenly easily damaged by the Black Order for no reason after being built up as the strongest metal in the universe. 2. Stormbreaker is turned from Mjolnir's equal to a deus AXE machina that somehow surpasses the power of ALL infinity stones with the faintest explanation of it being a king's weapon. HOW??? "Infinity Stones/Gauntlet gotta be nerfed for the casual audience, ok~" 3. Hulk turning into a coward then later a joke. 4. Thanos portrayed as a tragic hero as opposed to an unstoppable evil. 5. Worst of all, no explanation for what the power of the Soul Stone is, EVER.
Killmonger was also a massive hypocrite, which makes him more interesting. He has zero respect for Wakandan ways, will gladly steal a tribal mask cos "he feels it" despite raging against such practises and kills his own girlfriend/allies for a hint at power. The film however never quite acknowledges this, nor does a lot of the fandom, which blunts the impact.
Wonderful take on the villains. Props 👏 BUT. Every point you made about Thanos and his gauntlet or the power shifts. Easily answered if you were paying attention to the little dialogues or scenes in the film. Watch it agajn
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Babe wake up the mcu villain problem part 4 just dropped
I literally just thought of that line when I saw the video on my feed lol.
@@dzigayu4944 same here
these are my favorite comments to read
@@braedenalberti and these are some of my favorite videos to watch, cheers bruv
@@braedenalberti lol
My biggest issue with these videos is that they're not longer.
I genuinely enjoy watching them and they feel like they go by so quickly.
Same
"keep em coming back harr harr" like no GIMMIE THE GOOD SHIT IM ALREADY HERE
gotta get that ad revenue
I think he knows people have an interest in this subject so he’s milking it. Instead of giving us more content and richer context he’s milking this subject making quick soundbites for clout
@@universaldragonninja spot on
I remember Michael B Jordan saying the costume was an homage to Vegeta as he saw similarities in the script to the Sayian arc.
He's an anime WEEBU, don't forget he made THE ATROCIOUS GEN LOCK
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 Gen:Lock is the best thing Rooster Teeth ever made after Monty Oum died.
@@wolfiewoo3371 Nomad of Nowhere: *FALSE*
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 Awe shucks. I haven't seen that one.
No way 😂😂😂
Man Ape had that big ape costume in Avengers Earths Mightiest Heros and nobody seemed to have a problem with it in that show.
People are way too sensitive nowadays
Because one was a cartoon that wasn’t watch by the vast majority of general audiences.
The black Panther movie on the other had was seen by many many people.
You’re comparing how people weren’t upset about it then versus now, yet outside of comic book fans and kids who watched EMH? The black Panther movie was marketed world wide. Several people didn’t even know EMH existed till after it cancelled unfortunately
Well that show is from 2010, a time when not a lot of people were concerned with racial implications or any implications in that matter
PC culture is stupid bro.
@@KingMercury_
People are just
Irritating about it
Now, people are
So sensitive everything
Is seen as offensive.
THANK YOU I don’t understand why everyone praises Killmonger
Michael B Jordan is too charismatic
That movie as a whole gets too much praise too me. Only good part was Chadwick Boseman himself
@@gideonqwikfut4622 after watching that movie I always like to go back to marvels animated Black panther series
@@nont18411 true but in the movie itself, I think his performance is OK at best and then they end up, killing off his most iconic villain, and then nerfing his other big name villain to a sidekick role. Then everyone else praising Killmonger like he’s the second coming of Christ just bugs the hell out of me and they still kill him off
@@gideonqwikfut4622 T Challa was better in Civil War. To be honest
The Black Panther movie lost me when they killed off the supporting villains. Not only was it a waste of good characters (I legitimately liked what they were doing with Klaw) but it also made me wonder: what the point of the first half of the movie? Why didn't Killmonger's plan start with killing Klaw when they first met, and then enacting his master plan? Maybe the movie did explain that, but I never cared enough to rewatch it to find out.
Also, what they did with the Skrulls was criminal. ....Unless they are revealed to be the evil force we know and hate from the comics, in which case Carol Danvers is the true villain for letting them settle on Earth!
For the Thanos fights, it is greatly implied that he was holding back and that with each stone, there was a choice to either give up the stone or sacrifice someone (though with the soul stone, he had to give up his person to get it).
It was NEVER implied & He hadn't any reason to do it
I thought the reason was that he had no idea what the stones could actually do besides snap away the universe
Everything in the MCU is a little nerfed compared to their comic counterparts. Especially the infinity gauntlet.
1. The movie itself states that with just 2 stones, Thanos is the most powerful being in the galaxy. Therefore, he should have been able to handle the Avengers easily.
2. Another limitation the movie added is that he had to clench his fist to use the stones - to give the heroes a chance and seemingly wasn't capable of using more than one, maybe 2 at a time (might just be he didn't think to combine them).
3. He had to have been holding back otherwise he would have just killed people on sight. Instead he merely incapacitated the Guardians, everyone defending Vision and didn't kill anyone on Titan.
I thought he would bring up he is a simp in the comics because that’s why he kills
And I love how MCU fanboys are claiming that Thanos in the comics was a simp, and killed only because of that. No, Thanos doesn't kill in the comics because he's a simp. He kills in the comics simply because he can.
Thanos in the comics is a madman, who seeks infinite power to call hymself a god, but when he gets it, he has no idea what to do with it (plus, somewhere deeply he understands that he isn't worthy of said power, which is why he keeps loosing). There was even a short comic where Thanos just decided to ruin one guy's almost every birthday simply because flark him, I guess. The dude got himself a nickname Mad Titan not because he came out with the idiotic plan to "fix" overpopulation by comitting a genocide, but because he was a living incarnation of insanity. Even him "simping" for Lady Death was there more to show just how insane Thanos truly is, since the only person he fallen in love with was a literal incarnation of Death itself.
Also, in "Infinity Gauntlet" it was Lady Death who wanted half the population in the Universe gone, not Thanos. She brought him back to acomplish this mission, but Thanos himself didn't give a shit about it. He used it as an excuse to collect all stones, and then was mostly busy having the time of his life playing God and bossing around Mephisto. When he eventually did snaped half the population of the Universe, he did it only to please Lady Death who was pissed at him for using her.
You know how bad the creatives of the C.U.M. are WHEN EVEN THE CW ARROWVERSE HAS MORE MEMORABLE VILLAINS WITH COMIC ACCURATE SUITS
(Deathstroke, Wintergreen, Reverse Flash, Dark Archer, Zoom, Bizarro Superman, Onomatopoeia, etc.)
Okay half of the villains you named are either not memorable or not comic accurate.
Also where was onomatopoeia in the arrowverse?
@@TheHaas123 last season of superman & lois
I think the mcu needs to take itself more seriously. People love serious super hero stuff. It doesn't have to be super action but the mcu should stop seeing itself as a joke and quick cash grab and start telling amazing stories again and the money will come naturally
You can't get more serious than comedy.
I feel it almost has to be rebooted at this point.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754we’re well past that, they should’ve rebooted after endgame lol
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 but the reboot card despawned. They would have to can all of their new stuff and start fresh. No monopoly would do that even if it would be the correct move
I agree with most of what you’re saying but there’s one thing I take issue with. That being when you said Thanos could have doubled resources or something. The thing is that that isn’t the point. Thanos is a narcissist and wants to prove to the universe that he was right all along. Doing anything differently would go against his motivation. This becomes especially apparent after Endgame where he decides to create a new universe full of people grateful to him. Thanos was never about actually helping people
That may be true, but it's also a little lame and doesn't really address his arguments, instead merely saying he's wrong because he's simply a delusional asshole (it is also contradicted slightly by the "What If?" series, where he's actually talked out of it by T'challa).
Not helping things is that behind the scenes video and interviews with the writers indicate that they seem to think Thanos actually does have a valid argument, which suggests that he's only a narcissist because they couldn't think of a way to rebut him and just went the easy route.
In truth, there is a bunch of problems with his arguments beyond the fact that he's egotistical and resorts to genocide, such as overpopulation not actually working the way he says it does, but the film doesn't contradict him (un-filmed scenes would have even implied he was factually correct) as the characters don't even attempt to poke holes in his logic...because, as said, the writers didn't seem to realise what these holes even were (not did way too many fans of him).
It also undermines the fact that they changed him into a more sympathetic villain who at least likes to believe that he's actually working for some greater good, rather than the cruel and sadistic death-obsessed madman he was in the comics- might as well have kept him as he was in that case.
I disagree with a lot of this. For one I don’t really care what the team behind it says though the Russo brothers have said Thanos only wants to prove he’s right.
For What If, I don’t love what it did but it’s not the fault of IW or Endgame.
And finally I disagree with the idea that the movies imply Thanos’ actions to be helpful. He says he’d helped Gamora’s people but we only have his word and for all we know he might simply believe this to be the case without actually knowing. From what we’re shown, Thanos’ actions are portrayed as a very bad thing. They cause extreme economic distress, tons of collateral damage such as car crashes, and extreme trauma for the survivors. Never once is he portrayed as noble despite what idiots on the internet seem to think.
@@ethanmillward675 Cap says that pollution has lessened since the Snap, although he's obviously trying to see the positive side of a crappy situation.
We only have Thanos's word that Gamora's people are doing better, but we don't see anything to contradict his claim either.
My point though was that there was going to be a scene where Thanos was in space prison and saw Titan slowly die from his window, which implies Thanos was correct or at least that nobody on Titan ever found an alternative.
I don't think Thanos would dispute that his actions lead to trauma or economic disaster; he would just say that it's a necessary and temporary evil, although of course he's genocidally annoyed that five years isn't enough for people to "get over it".
My response to the whole Titan situation is that we only have Thanos’ word to go by. He’s going to find ways to make himself the one who’s right. Another thing I noticed about it is how simplistic he makes the situation out to be. I know this is more real world logic than movie logic but usually when there’s a very easy answer to anything it’s at best incomplete and outright wrong at worst. I think this applies here. To me, Thanos is pretty clearly made to be seen as a delusional madman
@@ethanmillward675 The fact that you keep saying "to me" undermines your argument- it might be clear "to you" but it isn't clear to anyone else.
It doesn't matter that we only have Thanos's word to go on these things, because nothing else in the film contradicts him, and my point about the unfilmed scene is that the writers themselves believed he was telling the truth about how things went down.
The movie doesn't show any characters poking holes in his logic- in real life, overpopulation doesn't work the way he thinks it does (it's as much about resource management as scarcity); furthermore killing a mere 50% of the population would be traumatic but recoverable in only a few decades (going purely by his own logic, he should have killed MORE than 50%, honestly); nobody actually visits the world's he culled to see if things really have improved or not (indeed Cap's comments about the rivers being cleaner than before the Snap indicates Thanos was on to something) etc
No characters properly challenge Thanos on his logic or evidence- they express horror at his actions and they (correctly) think he's being arrogant and single-minded, but nobody actively tries to disprove him...because, based on behind-the-scenes stuff the writers have said, they themselves seem not to see any holes in his logic either (such holes exist, they just didn't see them), probably because they don't know enough about the topic of overpopulation in the first place (neither do most viewers, which is why so many people wrongly think Thanos had a point).
They make Thanos a narcissist because that's their way of making a villain who (in their eyes) "has a point", while still making him fundamentally a villain who needs to be stopped, and Endgame Thanos opting to destroy the entire universe and remaking it into a more grateful one is just to illustrate that (along with simply being a way to "up the stakes", and not be a total repeat of Infinity War, which again just means they are screenwriters).
But no character sits down and says "Thanos, you're an idiot- here's why", and if you aren't taking it for granted that he's wrong to begin with (and the writers themselves did not), then the movie itself is suggesting he is seeing a real problem and offering a real solution, rather than seeing an imaginary problem or offering a solution that wouldn't actually solve the problem even if it was real, instead saying Thanos is un the wrong simply because he's a dick.
This is one of the most bingeable channels i’ve seen in a while, please release part 5 ASAP as possible
Oh yeah! I forgot about that mask Killmonger wore.
Honestly he should gave worn it through out the movie. That thing looked sick.
Also kinda funny how Disney never kills off there heros, but then they allow interesting Villiains to die after just one movie.
@@danielmalankastudent7830 I know but it still happened afterwards.
IRON MAN VR MADE A GREAT JOB MODERNIZING GHOST:
-They made her ambigously evil(She's Bad but you can make a truce with her)
-Her powers are used in a creative way
-The Game EXPLOTES & TAKES ADVANTAGE of her terrifying nature
-They Made her AN ACTUAL THREAT
-She was played masterfully by Chantelle Barry
-They show her being sympathethic but also remember she's a SUPERVILLAIN
& also Armored adventures took a lot of advantage of the character showing him as a recurrent treat & being the main mind behind the Armor Wars
*MEN, WHAT A GREAT SHOW WAS ARMORED ADVENTURES*
I saw that show too! It was Awesome! MCU could taken some notes and used those villains in the iron man movies. Imagine If In Iron Man 2, The Mandarin Be The Big Villain Instead And Tony Stark Had To Fight His Rouge Gallery Like Madame Masque, Crimson Dynamo, Blizzard, The Living Laser, etc.
With The Help Of Some Avengers Like War Machine and Hawkeye For Example, They Would Have To Defeat Those Villains One By One To Build Up To The Mandarin As The Final Boss. The Movie Would Of Been Way Better If It Weren’t For Shane Black… 😑😑😑
They Could Of Had Iron Man 3 And Used The Full Comic Book Storyline As Justin Hammer As the Main Villain. Then Iron man 4 With Armor Wars. Such A Missed Opportunity.
@@CartoonSociety-in9ci too bad Shane Black appeared in the equation
*FORTUNATELY* he's currently blacklisted from Hollywood for multiple x*n*ph*bic acusations
I pointed out the Killmonger issue a while back. It frightens me that people think of him as "tragic" villain. He is basically black Hitler and Wakanda is a bit dodgy as well. A racially pure, technological advanced, isolationist, military dictator state. Adolf would be jealous
I don’t have an issue with wakanda but you’re right on killmonger.
Wakanda is just an isolationist nation with lots of technological advancements. That’s perfectly fine that they wish to protect their own interests and stay out of global affairs.
And since it’s an African nation that has stayed completely out of global affairs, why would there be non black people there? It’s like saying why aren’t there tons of white people in Mongolia.
But killmonger basically being black hitler, I wouldn’t say that’s EXACTLY right but close enough.
I could say the same for the High Evolutionary
lol he was a great villain with great motivations until out of nowhere he's turn into black hitler
@@srstriker6420 well with the high evolutionary he wants to CREATE a new species which I presume would have separate races. Maybe, maybe not.
The genocide part absolute yes, but I think his motivations and goals were very different from Hitler’s whereas killmonger, he isn’t EXACTLY the same but he really isn’t that far off
"because of the implication" clip of IASIP was great.
I've been wondering what's your opinion on how Guardians 3 handles Adam Warlock, there are small references to the religious themes of the Roy Thomas and Jim Starlin runs with a short shot mirroring the painting "The Creation of Adam". But Adam's actual character is treated as a naive child-like man who can barely process what's actually happening, with little resemblance to the comics. I don't even know how they could go about adapting the Magus Arc in this state.
Yeah and also his mother
I feel like he's like that for the next film maker who takes on the Guardians to improve on what Gunn set up
This was his last movie and you can tell he was far more interested in wrapping up the stories of the team he's been in charge of for the past 9 years
Could Adam been handled better? Absolutely but the next film maker they get can improve where Gunn left off
@@IzayaLee1725i wouldn't bet on that given how crap the MCUs been
With Thanos, the key thing is that he is the MAD titan. He doesn't want to double resources, he wants to prove his point. Also, before you rip into Endgame Thanos, you have to remember that it's the younger and more bloodthirsty Thanos (the one who promised to bathe the stairways with Ronan's blood). Thanos in inifity war seems to mellow out with each stone he gets. He takes off his armor, he knows he is unstoppable, he is determined, and it is his movie. I'm Endgame, the younger Thanos didn't go through the ordeals to get the gauntlet. He is sure he will win. He is cocky and bloodthirsty, and it isn't his movie, it's the swan song for the original lineup of Avengers. So yeah, he takes a bit of a downgrade, but they do kill off the wiser and older Thanos at the start, so that character basically served his purpose.
The Problem With The Film Is That They Didn’t Showcase T’challa Intelligence (In The Comics, He’s a Scientist/Inventor.) Or his Martial Art Skills We Saw At Civil War. Also Shuri Should Of Been Like Okoye. She’s A Strong Warrior Who’s Strict And Discipline.
I don’t mind making Shuri a tech girl just make sure it’s established she learned from tchalla and still showcase his intelligence.
Once your done with Marvel you should do these for the DCEU as those movies deserve these videos as much as the MCU.
They could used Monica Rambeau. She was actually the first Female Captain Marvel before Carol. I’ll take her over Captain Karen…
I've given up on the MCU. Went back to watching the DCAMU, the best Superhero franchise brought to screen.
Spy Kids 2 is a kino kids movie. Me and my sister would always rent it from our local blockbuster back in the day.
They Forgot To Introduce Thanos Father (Mentor) And His Grandfather, (Kronos) Who Brought Drax Back To Life, (Who was a human at the time) and turn him into a Secret Weapon.
They never explained how and why Stormbreaker was able to negate The Infinity Gauntlet's Powers instead of Thor just winning out of nowhere
I don't mean to be fixing up holes for Marvel, but I think it's pretty safe to say that that wasn't the full power of the Infinity Stones. I mean, we SEE what happens when someone uses the full power of the Infinity Gauntlet. In general, the Gauntlet is significantly nerfed from the comics with characters like Captain Marvel and Iron Man being capable of tanking Power Stone attacks
My headcanon is that Thanos didn't know how to use the Gauntlet to its fullest potential and just fired a generic beam in his panicked state.
thor mentions something along the lines of the dwarves having made the gauntlet, and the dwarves also made stormbreaker, so they’re able to destroy each other… doesn’t explain how it beats the stones though
*5:38** SPEAKING OF, IRON MAN ARMORED ADVENTURES SHOWED FUNIER & MORE CREATIVE THE USE OF COSMIC POWERS WITH THE MANDARIN'S RINGS, Instead of just being an exchange of Beams & Punches like RICK HARRISON'S GAUNTLET in the C.U.M.*
I will never like Thanos, simply because his big "tragedy" was that he had no imagination. He had the INFINITY stones. He had, by the name's very definition, INFINITY ways to solve the problem of overpopulation and lack of resources: he could make the universe bigger, he could slow down metabolism, he could create planets with the sole purpose of agriculture or farming.
But no, he used them to kill. The stones are tools. He CHOSE to turn them into a weapon -,-
Dr Doom>thanos
Holy shit, I actually forgot Ghost existed
Comic book Drax was human jazz musician Arthur Douglas, he and his family were killed by Thanos. Thanos' father A' Lars (Mentor) had long been plagued by the horror his son became. He was haunted by his responsibility in the mad titans genocide, deicide, infanticide, and most painful to Mentor was the matricide Thanos commuted when he murdered his own mother, Mentor's wife Sui-San. Desperate to bring an end to the evil he sired, he reached out to Thanos' grandfather, Kronos an elder celestial and one of the original rulers of the Eternals of earth before the colonies in Uranus and Titan were formed. Kronos transformed himself into a cosmic god of space and time through experimentation with cosmic energy. Together Kronos and Mentor plotted to build the perfect weapon to fell their son/grandson. Arthur Douglas was a perfect vessel due to the tragedy he suffered as Thanos' hands. They could not save his family, but Arthur has a flicker of life left, and a begin born of an inherent vengeance was the perfect foundation. Mentor and Kronos used their combined abilities to fashion a formidable corporeal humanoid body far superior to average beings and enhanced in many ways. They then transferred Arthur's consciousness to the body. His memories were fuzzy and unclear, but he absolutely knew his purpose, and among his many physical abilities he also had the innate ability to seek and find the mad Titan anywhere in the cosmos. Drax eventually succeeded in his mission, but it was all for naught as after he used his superhumanly dense hand to rip out Thanos' beating heart, he watched in awe as the Titan was reconstituted before his eyes. It seems death herself, Thanos' lady love had forsaken him, and he was truly deathless.
(Drax killed Thanos several more times, but that was inside the cancerverse where death had died and life was unchecked).
Fun fact, Thanos and his brother Eros(star fox the horny avenger) are the only two Eternals ever to be conceived and born biologically.
The celestials created the Eternals to be essentially sterile and forbade them from attempts at reproduction. While they simultaneously creates the deviants with the ability to breed out of control and each birth created and entirely new species regardless of the parentage. So 100 Eternals remained 100, but 100 deviants became millions.
Great Video Dude!!!👍 1:43 Now I definitely agree On That Part. In the Comics Originally, T'challa Didn't Made His Suit Out Of Armor. It was Just Made Out of Cloth. It would of Been way better if the suit was just all cloth and not armor. It would've have to show T'challa having to dodge attacks that would been lethal and raise the stakes.
The Same Scene We Saw In Civil War. When He Fought Bucky In the Stair Scene Without The Suit.
Panther was Showing Off his Super human
Strength and Skills. If the Movie Did That, The Fight Scenes Would Of Been Way Better. It would of shown the True Powers of the Black Panther. Imagine If Black Panther Fought Erik Killmonger in A Brutal Hand To Hand Fist Fight With The Same Level Of Emotion Like Iron man Vs. Cap And Bucky. No CGI Mess, No Suit Of Armor, None of That Boirng Same Power Abilities…
Man, I'm so sick of the Nanotech Retractable suits
I know right! They could do much more than have The Standard Final Battle with both the hero and villain having the same powers without any stakes. Especially now that basically Everyone has an Iron Man Suit….
The Infinity gauntlet in the MCU doesn't really seem to be exactly like the one in the comics
When you put on the gauntlet in comics, it's like you see and know everything and it doesn't seem to hurt you after each use. You are a god essentially, with an unlimited amount of power
The MCU one just hurts you and might kill the user
Thanos is also partially an idiot with using it
It would imo make more sense if you could know or do anything and everything with the Gauntlet.
Also I guess I'm the only nerd that thinks powers need drawbacks. I didn't mind that some people needed to be strong enough to withstand it. But yeah, the comic version sounds cooler
Erik Killmonger's actual backstory:
Parents were killed by raiders led by a traitor of the Golden Realm who sold out secrets of his home nation to Ulysees Klaue.
Killmonger was taken and raised abroad by hateful people, and given a new name N'Jadaka, and identity by those who had robbed him of paradise. He was exploited N'Jadaka for his gifts of intelligence by his surrogate father M'Demwe, the very same who murdered his family before taking him into the outside world.
All the while, N'Jadaka fostered a deep resentment towards everyone and everything for all the horrible events that he experienced, while his future nemesis T'Challa would be
crowned king after the death of his father.
Eventually, N'Jadaka grew tired of his life in servitude and his childhood of hardship, and executed M'Demwe, brutally shooting, then stabbing the traitor to death, before going out on his own path and changing his name to Erik Killmonger.
Marvel: Nah, we gotta black this shit up.
Commence operation, pander to black people.
Insert "The black plight."
We have been threatened with a good time for far too long, we're finally gonna get the Spy Kids review
I like how straight foward your videos are
SPY KIDS VIDEO LET’S GOO!!!
I like spy kids 😢 hahaha
I like your takes because they’re not just “Marvel woke, evil company, hurdur”. I can tell that you have a genuine passion and want to see the company do better as opposed to wanting to laugh at their failures.
Marvel is woke though, but the good thing that having these nuanced takes is that, outside of the obnoxious socio-political narratives pushed in these films today, it allows us to view from another angle. That angle being that there has been major writing flaws throughout this franchise from day one.
@@CIA871 yeah but everyone says the same generic line with the same takes. Woke is bastardized atp said for anything. In fact the original term has nothing to do with virtue signaling bs.
@@bully61 "Original meaning" wtf does that even matter? The fact you know what i'm referring to shows that this is the consensus meaning, also i've never head it used any other way lol. I still use the term personally because it's important to call out political propaganda in films. But yes I would say there are grifters, who call everything woke just for money.
@@CIA871 the original meaning matters because it is now being applied to where it doesn't make sense. Being woke is like being outside of the matrix being attentive to reality and uncovering truth; exposing the way the government treats people. This can apply to any community that feels they are under attack in regards to certain policy's and what not. It has nothing to do with identity politics or LGBTQ movements or whatever bs that gets coined and thrown in.
One point I'd like to leave on to explain why it's important to know the original meaning of something, is that the swastika for example was once know as a sign for peace and harmony in many civilizations. It was stolen to be used for negativity. Today it is exclusively known as a hate sign. Woke is slowing being turned into nothing but a buzz word for the crazies atp.
@@CIA871 I would like to think that if you’re using a word the original meaning of the word absolutely matters.
If the infinity guantlet was comic accurate, then the film would be a good 20 minutes long.
Love this playlist of videos
>mcu villain video
>carol in the thumbnail
😂
Great video only bad part was it ended too soon
And had spy kids lol.
I'm not sure why they seem so afraid of powerful villains, Thanos being the exception before. I know its something we've talked about before, but I don't think there's really a limit to how strong writers should make villians, the more powerful they are, the more interesting it will be to see how the heroes manage to go against them, assuming you avoid plotholes/cheap macguffins/inconsistency in the writing and work out the solution to the villians power in some way with integrity. Heroes being too powerful just makes things be uninteresting and have no drama. I miss the stakes being high.
My favourite thing is people saying “what makes you think thanos could create infinite resources? That’s just too much” meanwhile they’re literally the INFINITY stones.
These videos are fantastic!
And I wouldn't mind seeing you discuss Spy Kids either. Those films were my childhood. As were those Inspector Gadget live-action movies, lol.
Great video! I am loving this series and I agree the if only they would use more vibrant colors for the costumes instead of all the dark colors.
Ive never been more threatened by spy kids in my life.
I also its not like i was on kill mongers side but man im just seeing how grossly wrong he was
Yeah I never understood why people said Killmonger was sympathetic and black panther movie is also kinda overrated too
To the Killmonger part I would like to add that his goal and origins stand from the fact neither he or his father learned that every race, culture and country participaded in slavery at that time period
lol wtf is this? critical race theory is something missing in your education
@@Ivanmaradonaaa Sounds like critical race theory is the reason why Woman King movie exists
I love these videos and wish they could drop daily
I think the saiyan armor for killmonger was intentional. M.B. Jordan is into anime.
I'll be honest... And this is speaking from the perspective of having only seen the first film before Chadwick's passing...
They rushed Killmonger's character. They should've found a way to keep him as a returning enemy for T'Challa. Or save him for a sequel. That said, given what ends up happening in real life... I'm flad we got to see them both conclude they're character arcs early.
I mean let’s be real there’s nothing saying he can’t come back as a returning threat. Killmonger dying and coming back is his brand atp
Ant Man and the Wasp's biggest misstep was teasing Bill Foster growing big (meaning Giant Man could've had a rival on equal footing), making him work with the villain... and never involving him in the final battle! I wanted to see a giant Lawrence Fishburne sock Giant Man in the face, dammit!
Well I think that they should have brought Mitchell Carson in Antman and the Wasp to up that loose end, Maybe Whirlwind should have been the movie as he had a infatuation on the Wasp in the comics that he disguised himself as her personal driver and Moonstone for Captain Marvel.
Don’t forget to mention the Sovereign in the next video as the high priestess is supposed to be Adam Warlock’s Eve in the comics and the High Evolutionary, Mysterio being a Stark employee was pretty forced and lazy, Gorr just feels like he’s from a different movie like a horror movie monster.
The worst MCU villain is not dropping part 5 this week 😂
You forgot to mention the most evil villain of the bunch: The Don. While characters like Loki may want to invade a planet, The Don asks women to smile. Thank goodness Captain Marvel broke his hand and stole his motorcycle to end his villainous career.
*insert efap interpretation of the don joke* and move on
@@changvasejarik62 I was thinking more of Legal Eagle interpretation. If I was thinking EFAP, I would have mentioned his tragic backstory of losing his wife to cancer 6 months earlier.
@@petery6432 fair enough
Ghost Is Like DeathStroke Mixed With Spike From Cowboy Bebop. In The Comics. Would Of Been Cool If They Showed That Version Of Him. He’s an Iron Man Villain Though…
Bovine Designs Easter Egg ❤
GREAT USER, BTW
Thanks Bro!!!
@@CartoonSociety-in9ci speaking of, CAN'T BELIEVE ARMORED ADVENTURES IS 15 YEARS OLD
Man, that show aged like Fine Wine
I know Right???!! I’m Surprised Many People Haven’t Or Even Watched It Yet
Finally was waiting so long for this
mom wake up the mcu villain problem part 4 just dropped
I like how Captain Marvel is included in the thumbnail art
Killmonger's actor actually called out his outfit being focused on DBZ's Vegeta funny enough.
Unpopular take - Killmonger was an absolute crap villain, not just for being a visual copy of Black Pather but his takes and motivations.
Regarding Thanos..... Snapping his finger nearly killed him. Creating infinite resources is probably not a single snap thing, as different worlds need different recourses and that's very complicated to do. 1 snap to cut the population in half is pretty much to the point.
Really??? You aren't that pissed off by how they utilized the scrolls and the kree??? The scrolls most especially??? They made them the good guys fighting for freedom and they only want to leave the galaxy and they're now helping fury to act as a double whilst he does other stuffs... Do you think with the way they were represented in captain marvel as oppressed groups of the kree that the scrolls would ever be used as a villain??? I was expecting more push back from you concerning the wasted scrolls... They're never going to be used as a villain again which would be a waste because of how their shape shifting would have good for a compelling secret invasion, but there's no way captain marvel would ever make a mistake with who she chooses to save... They're good now and we have to love with it...
*Skrulls. I also thought he would be a lot more annoyed at that, I know I was.
@@bobthebuilder5680 thanks 😊😊😊 I listen to the audio comics, I don't read them so I had no idea how to spell it... Even their name sounds evil, it's just skull with an R and a different pronunciation, you can tell what a writer was thinking for a character or group just based on their name alone...
@@johnnycrown5097 the worst part is that pretty much like Zemo they now want to retcon them to be comic accurate despite it has 0 sense
i liked man ape in EMH there he killed T'Chaka and took over wakanda . i really miss the villain side of him because no way in hell would man ape let himself be sidelined for being ruler of wakanda when the black Panther dies , there is just no way especially to a freaking teenager
The children of Thanos should've been the villians of Avengers 2.
The MCU lost me after Dr Strange scanned 14,000,000 timelines, and none of them involved him portal-chopping Thanos's head or arm like he did to bad guy earlier in the movie. Endgame was made on your ability to overlook that glaring plot hole.
That said, I've been a DC comic guy. Never read marvel comics with a few Captain America, Iron Man and X Men exceptions growing up. So if there was a legitimate reason Dr Strange couldn't do that while Thanos was hypnotized, or why he couldn't rewind tim to before Star Lord threw his tantrum, it escaped me or was not terribly obvious
@@lithosagymfan they could have teleported him elsewhere or told him "Hey man, he's going to say some effed up things, just wait until we get the gauntlet off to beat the crap out of him". Or they could have just told star lord to not act like a pissed off teenager on the rag. 14M time lines and they all. Included star lord being as emotionally intelligent as a high school kid and no one being able to do anything about it? Nah I don't buy it
@@lithosagymfan then that sounds like lazy writing to me, especially since, again, arguments like these typically include people doing the storytelling FOR the writers, but without pay. The only "greater good" i can think of is a money-making sequel surrounded by plot armor.
Endgame was entertaining, indeed, but it didn't need to happen if strange just took the extra 1 to 2 seconds to do some portal-chopping. Could have been at the shoulder so his cape and Spiderman didn't get hurt.
Or at the very least, he should have explained at some point after that incident why not a single of the 14M timelines would have worked. No I'm not saying to go line-by-line, but at least something. "If we cut his arm off and got the gauntlet now, then X, Y, Z might have happened." Otherwise, if it was for this "greater good," why not explain to them to just let him have the gauntlet abs that they'll get it later? Which he kind of hinted at. But again, why resist at all at that point?
I just don't see the logic.
please keep making videos. I like hearing talk about anything lmao
only issue with killmonger is that if he woulda just wanted to offer more resources to africa and african americas then i thnk tchalla would agree given thats what he did in the end of the movie.
Killmonger didn’t just want more resources he wanted pay back as well. That’s where him and tchalla differed in belief
Thanks for this videos 🥰🤩🤗👍🏾💪🏾
Killmonger is relatable because he does have a legitimate grievance. That he had a point to make, a lesson to teach the hero, and an actual injustice to rectify, but went too far in trying to do so, is the point.
The goal of liberation shouldn't be to swap the power dynamics and get the oppressed people to the top. It should be to end oppression, period.
The ending fight still sucked though.
first person in this comments with some sense, not surprising considering you're probably hispanic
3:21. As a young black man, the only thing I can say in response is a quote from my favorite captain america movie
"By holding a gun to everyone on earth and calling it protection.....
This isn't freedom, this is fear."
that was litterally edith in FFH
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 I'm going to assume that's a joke and continue on with my day.
@@clarenceandgennymcneil251 Edith is the Project inside, a satelite who can kill anyone in seconds
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 oh ,I thought you ment Edith said the quote. My mistake.
I agree but to be honest there was alot of things wrong with that movie.
@@clarenceandgennymcneil251
MCU tony stark's character arc is suppoused to be he no longer make weapons but HE KEPT CONTINUE MAKIKG MASS DESTRUCTION WEAPONS(even after his death)
I can only say XD
The stones doesn't give you forever powers... What you do with the stones still has to follow what the stones can do... The people that disappeared was from the reality, time and soul stones, reality to take away the body, time to increase how long the effects of the stones last for which is forever and soul stone to take away their souls, the mind stone made him reach everyone in the universe using their mind and randomized them, the space stone increased the reach of the stones and the power stone increased the power of the stones... He can't just wish food into existence, he can't just wish anything into existence...
But I do agree that they freaking nerfed him in that fight... That's because Hollywood don't know how to use powers creatively and they follow power scaling a lot with generic blasts and punches... Dr strange should have been the one in charge of messing with the power of the gauntlet... Spider man should have been doing the restraining not punching, he should only focus on restraining from a distance... Drax would be their close range and be the one in harge of punches, it would have made sense if it was the hulk instead of wasting him in wakanda for no freaking reason, war machine or bucky should have been the one riding that hulk buster not freaking banner, what a waste... Star lord would be the mid ranger, peppering Thanos with mid range continuous shot whilst zooming around him with his levitation shoes and utilize other gadgets like granades and the gravity thing to destabilize Thanos continuously and they can add some coolness with gun Fu like fighting also involved... Tony would be the long ranger who would be firing lasers and missiles and blinding Thanos with dust clouds, doing all these from a distance, only swooping in unexpectedly from thanos' back with blinding speed (this is to give Thanos a chance to catch him during the change of the tables, it makes sense here because tony swooping in would also add to the pandemonium Thanos is facing against the constant barrage from different places before he has time to recover and face one person, so Tony's sudden unpredictable swoops would help add to the confusion)... And big girl does what she did in the movie, waiting on the sidelines for strange to teleport her in when Thanos has been wared down and temporarily restrained by drax holding his hands, spiderman continuously webbing him in place, strange holding down his movements and nerfing the magic of the stone, star lord now continuously shooting him with stuns not bullets, to keep Thanos immobilized and losing his strength whilst tony grabs on to the gauntlet and revs his engines trying to fly at top speed away with the gauntlet and using that force to pull out of thanos' hand as the mind girl does what she did in the movie...
This way, Thanos breaking out of his trance won't be from something as very very stupid and pointless and unsatisfying as star lord freaking punching Thanos, as in that was very very very dumb and unbelievable... Star lord would either shoot Thanos very wildly starting from his face and around his body because he's shaking in anger with his real gun continuously which doesn't kill thanos but hits with enough impact on his face first to bring him out of the trance from his pain and the mind girl would get overwhelmed by the pain as well, and star lord's remaining bullets to thanos' torso would start ripping Spiderman's webs restraining Thanos apart and make it easier for Thanos to break free and some of the bullet would hit drax on the face making him let go of Thanos immediately from the pain which just destroyed everything for them making mind girl and Tony seating ducks with no protection or star lord would be so lost at the news of gamora's death and stop the stunning and become out of it and stop participating when Thanos enters back into the fight which destroys their teamwork and makes drax a seating duck... Either way works and doesn't rely on a convenient bout of stupidity from star lord to achieve something so pointless and not realistic at all...
This way, everyone is unique to the fight and adding their specialization to the teamwork rather than punching each other and destroying the power levels... This way, Thanos never gets to use not even half of the true power of the stones or override with thought the simple nerfing magic strange his using on the gauntlet because his focus and attention would be broken and extremely divided with different types of attacks coming from different places continuously, simultaneously and extremely swiftly one after another with the webs to deal with and the constant explosion and dust clouds and sudden swoops of Tony... He won't be able to focus or breathe...
They made a mistake making the fight a blow to blow fight instead of letting them overwhelm him with attacks after attacks, numbers and teamwork before he even has the chance to counter... That is fighting smart but they wanted a back and forth for the cool aspect which just makes Thanos look weak and not make the avengers look intelligent for not planning on how they would face him...
I love this series, can't wait to see what you say about Gorr
*7:21** ¿ISN'T HE THE GUY COBRA COMMANDER KILLS WHEN HE ESCAPES FROM GERMANY?*
Favorite series.
The sheer amount of people who thought that Thanos' plan made sense is mind melting.
Less people dosen't mean there are more resources to go around. Where do people think resources come from? PEOPLE MAKE THE RESOURCES!!!
Less people = less resources
Thanos did deliberately hold back, he genuinely thought that his 50/50 genocide was the right thing to do, and wanted to kill as little people as possible before hand so that the snap would be 100% fair, hence why none of the avengers died (other than the snap).
Why are these so rewatchable
Only villain thats truely a villain is the High Evolutionary and Thanos. Everyone else is meh.
Never forget, Thanos original motivation in the Comics was to impress Lady Death. It was never about saving anybody.
Killmonger was a billion times better than Thanos as a villain and a character. There's literally nothing about Thanos outside of being a big CGI action scene generator, which is probably why all the RUclips movie bros flock towards him. He's literally Malekith with slightly better screen presence.
Really hope you cover some of the Spy Kids movies, those are my jam
My problem with killmonger is that they try to make him a sympathetic and understandable villain but then he acts randomly evil like killing that old lady in the garden...
GREAT VIDEO 💛💙💚♥️
Missed a HUGE joke opportunity by not going, "And now it's time to talk about the villain of Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel." then give a completely straight-faced review of her villainous actions and costume design.
7:10 his wish was granted surprisingly
These videos should’ve been longer. I wouldn’t mind a 20 minute three part series. Hey power to the creator though. I enjoyed watching nonetheless
It’s been teased so much I’m looking forward to a spy kids universe break down. 😂
Your Captain Marvel analysis is hilarious.
Knowing Michael B Jordan is an avid anime fan, i refuse to believe he didn’t do something to get his costume to look more like vegeta
Most accurate Black Panther take
Ape power in a different way like spirit animal construct that gives him super strength is cool
Dog you gotta do more of these type videos. I don't care what you do a review of ,I'm in
Made my day
Infinite War was good for the most part but it made 5 decisions that I cannot overlook and forgive:
1. Vibranium is suddenly easily damaged by the Black Order for no reason after being built up as the strongest metal in the universe.
2. Stormbreaker is turned from Mjolnir's equal to a deus AXE machina that somehow surpasses the power of ALL infinity stones with the faintest explanation of it being a king's weapon. HOW??? "Infinity Stones/Gauntlet gotta be nerfed for the casual audience, ok~"
3. Hulk turning into a coward then later a joke.
4. Thanos portrayed as a tragic hero as opposed to an unstoppable evil.
5. Worst of all, no explanation for what the power of the Soul Stone is, EVER.
Killing off Klaue was Adam warlock and what they did to Mar-Vell levels of unforgivable for me.
Because of the implication 😂😂😂😂
Killmonger was also a massive hypocrite, which makes him more interesting. He has zero respect for Wakandan ways, will gladly steal a tribal mask cos "he feels it" despite raging against such practises and kills his own girlfriend/allies for a hint at power. The film however never quite acknowledges this, nor does a lot of the fandom, which blunts the impact.
Aren’t i early. I’m excited
Lol, I just watched last 3 parts, and 4 part dropped. Thats some avenger level luck xD
If you love America you love Killmonger. He fully represents the US Govt. everything he learns and does he literally got from the US.
Wonderful take on the villains. Props 👏 BUT. Every point you made about Thanos and his gauntlet or the power shifts. Easily answered if you were paying attention to the little dialogues or scenes in the film. Watch it agajn