I'm getting to used calling movie superheroes what they are.... NOT Namor, NOT Shazam, NOT Black Adam, NOT Black Panther, NOT Spiderman, NOT Nick Fury. These are examples of a variant of the original characters, but are not like the original character. They've all been modified in one way or another. Younger generations might like them, but to those of us who actually grew up with these characters, these new versions are a slap in the face. And these companies ALWAYS do this. Every single one of the STANS that tell me to shut up about it, will have the exact same thing happen to the characters they loved and grew up with. I just hope they follow their own advice when the time comes for karma to kick them in the face.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. My goal with these videos is to hopefully help my generation understand just how much they're missing out on. These movies might be acceptable in their eyes, but they could be far better if only they were more like the original books.
Nice :) we can’t have different interpretations of these characters. Awesome They have to be exactly like the dumb comic book or I will explode and while it may be annoying some don’t know the original source I understand that this doesn’t matter because superheroes don’t affect our lives in any way. They… exist. I totally agree with you 😉👍👍
@@DavidInsome they can be different but they have to be better, what is the point of changing a character if they are not better than their comic counterpart?
For all the changes they did to Namor, the one thing they just had to keep were his ankle wings. They always looked ridiculous, but now, for some reason, it's just amplified.
Most things in animation & comics look 10x more ridiculous in live action. Which is why so many live action adaptations of animated material usually don’t look good at all
There's a scene in Infinity war where shuri mucks Bruce banner and Tony stark, she ask " why didn't you do this thing to your robot, I'm sure you did your best " ...All i can think about is, shuri where is your robot, where are your robots with highly advanced brains that can fly etc etc etc 😂😂😂....they wanted to make shuri look smarter than bruce and tony but i never believed it, it looks forced.
Going through Rotten Tomatoes ratings is fucking hilarious. 90% of the 5-star reviews sound like they were written by a bot and when you click on their rating history almost all of them have the combined diversity of 1 movie, Wakanda Forever.
Chadwick Boseman himself wants T’Challa to be recast. although they handled his death respectfully they killed off T’Challa and profited his death. such great story telling. riri head shaking/69420
@@totallyrad9691 his brother made a statement regarding his last will and about the role of T’Challa. Bold of you to assume Chadwick is an idiot like you
@@nightskyartistics1425 it’s confirmed Chadwick would’ve wanted T’Challa to be recasted and there’s still many black Panther stories that needed to be told. It would’ve still been fine if they recasted him and still subtly tribute Chadwick and still have the dedication and whatnot but the movie was good and it felt like another funeral for Chadwick
@@nightskyartistics1425 it's a movie bro, it's business, the only way I can see it being disrespectful is if they released the movie shortly after hia death (which they actually did)
They had no problem replacing William Hurt after he died with Harrison Ford, so they should've recasted T'Challa too. It gives this message that William Hurt didn't matter as much as Chadwick which is an awful and not very hero-like take on human lives. Or maybe they think William didn't matter as much because of his color... and with the current state of the MCU and its Message, you know I'm not being far-fetched. Reminder that William has been with the MCU since its beginning, 2008. There was no homage for him on social media. Not a special logo. Not a dedication.
"Boohoo I'm a white man and marvel heroes are not all white like they used to be. Poor me who will represent me now? I'm sooo repressed" cry about it racist bozo
@@gh0st-.-dxff531 yes, the characters have different levels of importance, but bro, they are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS, the whole point is that different people can make interpret the same concept and still make it work, the character is NOT the actor
Last of 2 was the first thing that came to my mind after watching the movie in theaters. I’m glad I was not the only one who thought that. That’s not even a compliment either because the main thing wrong with both of them is that Ellie & Shuri don’t think twice about killing anyone affiliated with their actual target when those people aren’t the ones that killed their loved one & have families of their own but they choose not to kill the 1 person they have the most reason to kill & value their lives over every henchmen they killed for some odd reason
I'm a huge fan of Chadwick Boseman since 2013, When I first watched "42", Iwas a huge fan of his acting skills since then & it pisses me off how most of his "Fans" are winny immature brats who think he is a fictional Character, they didn't care he died, they only care for "We would never see again T'challa"
PRETTY HIPOCRIT how they changed The Mandarin & N'kia to not be "R*cist" YET THEY HAD NO PROBLEM on hiring an Infamous Mexican Lolcow(Tenoch Huerta) to play a r*cist Mexican caricature when Namor in the comics has NOTHING to do with Mexico
I think the opposite, it appears that Chadwick's death legit blindsided everybody at the studio and they were legit upset, first that he died, and 2nd that he didn't tell anybody, because to be honest, he should of told people so they could be more prepared but whatever I wasn't in that situation. Anyway if they requested him everybody would be saying they are disregarding Chadwick in a cold heartless move to keep making money, so they dedicate an entire film to him and people still are saying they did it to make money. News flash, these movies are made to make money believe it or not and it was so obvious the best long term solution was to put feelings aside and recast Tchalla but they were too upset to do so.
@@alpha6games751& THE WORST PART IS that they already had the Prefect replacement for Iron Man after Tony's death in DR. DOOM/Infamous Iron Man, & despite that series had great sales Marvel cancel it after just 12 issues, in favor to Push Riri as The "TRUE" replacement for Tony
Wakanda in the comics does kind of remind me of the adeptus mechanicus from 40k in the fact they hoard their tech for different reasons. Some of the reasons are more justifiable than others while some are more flawed and short term but you can at least understand why they do it.
They Should Of Recasted T’challa For David Oyelowo (African Actor) And Gotten Luke Evans To Play Namor. Make T’challa Have Most Of the Screen Time As The Main Character And His Give Back Intelligence, Take Out All Of the Side Characters Out of The Franchise. (Including Shuri) Make Namor an Arragont, Jacked, Masculine, Giga Chad Anti-Hero. Not A Soy Boy Who Is Being Used To Promote An Agenda Of Being An Person Of Color And Being Oppressed And Staging An All-Out Race War Which The Audience Somehow Agrees With. (Looking At You Killmonger.) Maybe Get Tom Cruise as Iron Man From A Different Universe. Iron Man Teams Up With Black Panther And Wakanda To fight Namor And Atlantis In An All-Out War Type Film. Pretty Easy Script To Write. Sadly It Never Happen…😐
Spot on, also loved how you nail down the character Namor is supposed to be and how much they've failed with this strange mayan doppleganger they have in the movie
I didn’t see the movie and it was because the villain looked so boring to me. He didn’t seem intimidating at all like you said. So I’m glad I wasn’t wrong. The other thing was that they didn’t recast T’challa. It’s possible to introduce a new character as his successor without showing his death but I can’t see Disney Marvel handling it well. I’m just glad they didn’t Frankenstein his face like they did with Carrie Fisher. They didn’t, right? I hope M’baku is cool. I like his character. But I wasn’t sold on anything else. It’s not enough to be a sequel to Black Panther for me to see it.
The villain invaded Wakanda and killed their Queen in front of their Princess, he's so cold-blooded. Even the negative reviews for this movie all acknowledged that Nemor was a real badass who could be parts charming and persuasive but fully a psychopathic dicched.
Hopefully, We get A Black Panther TV Show With T’Challa Being The Main Focus. Played By Aldris Hodge. Show His Full Comic Book Storylines. Don Mcgregor To Christopher Priest. Like A Drama Series.
Honestly, that Iron Heart (lame name) suite was waaaaay more horribly made than all the Power Ranger suites… What were they thinking…?? There was actually someone that saw the last iteration of that suits design and went like: “Ah right ok, that will do!” Signed-Off! 🤷🏼♂️
As a long time Black Panther fan this movie is absolutely NOT a Black Panther movie. It completely and utterly disregards the source material and makes Namor look like a moron and if Marvel expects me to be excited for anything related to Wakanda and Black Panther in the future without the main freaking character T'Challa.....yeah they can miss me with that bs. Honestly they should have recasted T'Challa because this franchise has no legs when it comes to adapting any other future Black Panther stories without T'Challa (and NO the mid-credits scene with the made up son TJ is not a "recast" and I'm not investing time into some made up character when you could have just recasted the original)
The movie was good and one of the better productions in phase 4 but it still could’ve been better especially with bigger battles and more people fighting. 6.3 out of 10
It seems that the reception to this review is rather mixed. Hopefully, once I make my much longer and more through follow up video, opinions on this films will unify a bit more. But until then, carry on with your great debates! (but be nice to each other)
Namor says he has more soilders than Wakanda has blades of grass yet from what we saw in the movie a big bomb can anahilate the armies of Wakanda and Talokan simultaneously. Not even an atomic bomb, just a big regular bomb. Their armies all fit on a ship, how strong can their millitary power be?
8:13 Guess you forgot that at the end of the film that this does still happen. We don't get a conclusion of how this goes down but the film doesn't just forget like you've implied.
In the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, the nation of Wakanda had many similar narrative beats as the movies without the flaws in worldbuilding. Most of it has to do with the fact that the Black Panther's Story had little to nothing to do with racial discrimination, slavery, or righting past wrongs. It was about the fact that overly strict adherence to traditions can be harmful. And it's still an extremely high tech hidden African Nation that shockingly still resembles tribal Africa. In the cartoon, T'Challa was begging T'Chaka not to accept Man-Ape's (M'Baku's) request for Trial by Combat, because it was a dumb tradition, that did not prove the new ruler would rule well, and T'Challa knew that Man-Ape was planning to cheat. T'Chaka didn't listen, and was promptly killed for it, leaving Man-Ape as the new King of Wakanda, and T'Challa fled to the United States to get help from the Avengers (the Fantastic Four in the Comics) in order to take back the throne from Man-Ape. Despite being a very high-tech Nation due to the access of tons of Vibranium, Wakandans still use spears instead of firearms. Narrative themes are probably more important to the worldbuilding of Wakanda than anywhere else in the Marvel Universe, to the point that if they try to change the message of it, that Wakanda seems to have poor worldbuilding because of it.
Actually I wrote that comment. Cause I barely go to theaters to watch any movie so I just wanted to know if the movie is good or not for theatrical viewing
So one major issue I have to address with this video. You keep pointing out how Wakanda is portrayed as this perfect, flawless nation, but like, the first film pretty much addresses it's many faults, with is power structure, isolationism among other things. Wakanda forever shows how they've tried to evolve its pass mistakes and even then, is protayed far from perfect just for the very fact that they still end up going to a pointless war and almost get destroyed as a result. Plus, I think its somewhat ignorant to criticise Wakanda's negative on western society given that's its clearly based off the real life dark past that African nations have with western countries like America.
right, this guy just seems to have a hard-on for shitting on anything that depicts western nations as flawed and ignoring the plot points that he dunks on that were touched in the og film.
Namor’s last name is Mckenzie. His dad is canonically a white American of Irish descent. But the MCU decided he should be Aztec influenced and played by a Mexican actor. God forbid they adapt one of the many Mexican Marvel characters.
Instead of wasting Namor on this, they should make an adaptation of the great Daredevil issue where he fights Sub-Mariner who wants to sue the human race.
The actors scale might have more to do with covid restrictions than anything. You can tell in a lot of movies covid stuff that harmed the movie like in black adam the actors barely move from their bubbles and the scenes are so stiff. I dont have examples from BP2 bc it was boring and i turned it off
Not gonna lie you definitely change my mind on some stuff from this movie especially comics comparison but I still very much like it and I personally wouldn’t say shuri was perfect but broken in a way and I did find Namor here very cold but I agree that he’s a step down still like this movie very much and I don’t like iron heart at all
I guess the one-eyed is king of the blind is the motto you want to implement here? People seem to forget that there is "i enjoyed the movie" and "it's a good movie". Enjoy doesn't equal good, i myself have enjoyed quite a few trash movies. I however am at least aware they are objectively trash, regardless of my enjoyment, things that many people are not capable of these days. Phase 4 including this movie has been 90% trash with the occasional good scenes/parts. Again, if you enjoyed it, great for you, but don't argue it's a good movie when there are so many story and writing decisions made that are objectively garbage. But hey at least they got rid of trial by combat for the 60+ year old queen, rip, and thin as a stick shuri without any reason, or did i doze off when they explained that?
it is one of the better phase 4 films, but it's still far from reaching it's true potential, which is why i'm so harsh with my critiques. I just want marvel to maintain the high standard they started out with
Can you do a video on the Netflix punisher? I don't know if you have read those comics but the comic punisher is far superior to the bernthal version despite what everyone says. I think jon bernthal is awesome but he wasn't frank castle. Really they messed up most of those characters except for matt murdock
Hey mate. As much as i agree with your vids, you need to work on the way you talk. Everything you've said was in 1 continous monotone voice. Work on that and your vids will be so much better to watch :)
Wait your misrepresenting Namor’s goals. Namor doesn’t just want to attack the surface land because they owned slaves at one point. Governments were getting closer to Atlantis so Namor started to get threatened.
i actually agree with most of his opinions, but this just seems like he was just shitting on this movie cause he felt like it. I wonder if it's because the protagonist is a female.
@@fuckudag And maybe he is a racist too cause most of the actors are not white. Seriously, you are the epitome of left wing woke stupidity. Man points out obvious af flaws that anyone with half a braincell and who isn't a brainless "consoomer" can see --> "he obviously is sexist cause of female MC. I agree with most of his points but sexism made him do it." You do realize that by agreeing with most of his points and you condemning him to sexism you say that you're sexist too right? Else why would you agree? Genius.
I hate this movie. Is in my top ten hated Marvel movies. I didn't hate this movie more than black widow tho but it's up there. The shire disrespect to Chadwick's legacy, using his death to make money and replacing him with a cheap knockoff. I am amazed at how people find this enjoyable. This whole movie is disgusting.
Dam now I get why this film was such a massive under profitable film making only make i think 878 to 890 million dollars world wide. versus the over 1.3 to 1.4 billion gross before adjusting for the absurdly high abnormal unheaincrease inflatation we have had since a year our 2 before the Covid out break slash unicron innitally started in Europe and Asia in mid fall late summer of 2019. the decently shorter and I think cheaper original gross. Outside of Spider-Man which majority of the bling bling it made got used for expenses theater compensation then 75% of what was left was split between marvel and Sony. Then Disney got the remaining 25% the phase 4 was a bad finical investment for all involved except for Sony. Who’s only been having very good luck maybe only having a couple of bad investment that lost money a year . last year I think there only flop was morbious twice. Then the year before there on big bad investment it was welcome to raccoon city film wise.
This whole thing is cringe. Nemor invaded Wakanda and killed the queen and you're talking about he doesn't make his presence felt? Seriously dude you're a weirdo who thinks he's being cool by hating on popular things to hate on smh. That's why I cringe. I don't like they made Nemor Mayan, but Kukulcán is an actual deity in MesoAmerican religion, The Feathered Serpent God who in modern day archeologists say the legend was inspired by a comet hitting Earth which resembles a snake tail in the sky, like the meteor that gave them vibranium. So it actually all ties together sorry they didn't keep the more muscular bikini speedos version for you.
I’ve watched a couple of your videos and I think you look at marvel completely wrong. You expect them to be the same as the comments, but if a story is already told once, why tell it again even if it is a different medium. You want the stories that you enjoy, but don’t have an open mind to hear the stories that are being told
This movie felt more like Black Panther: Fight for the Streets. Most pathetic war(potential war) on the modern screen...reminded me of the wakanda vs space monsters battle in infinity war. Small and dumb.
So every critique is correct, but I would argue is a bit nit-picky.the movie as a whole imo is a very refreshing upgrade in phase 4 even with the faults.
This was a phenomenal movie. Clickbait thumbnail. Idk shit about Namur but even I can tell this seems like it isn't the best adaptation. Then again I could be wrong. I'm saying ignoring the race swap. They could have made Namor more fish like. I could post how that would look to my Instagram but nah. But yeah the designa of the atleanteans were awesome and their appearances were so creepy. Such a great movie. No dumb mcu jokes
I Wish We Had A The REAL Namor. We Could Of Had An Serious Underwater Adventure Type Film Before Aquaman. Heck, Submariner Was Before Him! Of Course They Had To Emasculate Him Because He Was Too Alpha.
Anyone else think it’s funny that the character that actually acts like a colonizer in his early renditions was race swapped ?😂 Seem offensive when you think about it.
Yeah they coulda recasted actors die and get recast all the time its kind of a selfish way of thinking tbh one guy died therefore a character he played shall never be played by any one else ever again 😂😂 thats not how Hollywood works all the "dont recast types" need a reality check
I cant bring myself to watch this movie.Knowing phase 4 its another woke rubbish.Also i just hate the new Namor.He looks NOTHING like Namor in the comics.He is NOT Namor to me.The choice for this is outrageous.(i have nothing against the actor but they could at least mask him a bit,make his hair or sumt?They werent even trying for crying out loud..).Every time i see a trailer of this movie i get mad.
okay then, I'll hear you out pal. Hopefully, you don't damper my moods far enough so that I do a bad job on my schoolwork and math tutoring work, because otherwise I solemnly swear I'll rip Marvel, Kevin Feige and everyone who inspired you to make this video a new one. *Maniacal laughter* get to the beeping point. We don't-a think your mind is steady, we don't-a think your pizza's ready. Legs as limp as cold spaghetti, in the deep deep depths of regretti. Nevermind, I just got bored, bye. You can just mail me the original comics and then I'll tell you whether or not you are just a pessimist or not.
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I'm getting to used calling movie superheroes what they are.... NOT Namor, NOT Shazam, NOT Black Adam, NOT Black Panther, NOT Spiderman, NOT Nick Fury. These are examples of a variant of the original characters, but are not like the original character. They've all been modified in one way or another. Younger generations might like them, but to those of us who actually grew up with these characters, these new versions are a slap in the face. And these companies ALWAYS do this. Every single one of the STANS that tell me to shut up about it, will have the exact same thing happen to the characters they loved and grew up with. I just hope they follow their own advice when the time comes for karma to kick them in the face.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. My goal with these videos is to hopefully help my generation understand just how much they're missing out on. These movies might be acceptable in their eyes, but they could be far better if only they were more like the original books.
Nice :) we can’t have different interpretations of these characters. Awesome
They have to be exactly like the dumb comic book or I will explode and while it may be annoying some don’t know the original source I understand that this doesn’t matter because superheroes don’t affect our lives in any way. They… exist.
I totally agree with you 😉👍👍
*AMEN*
@@DavidInsome they can be different but they have to be better, what is the point of changing a character if they are not better than their comic counterpart?
@@braedenalberti How old are you? Great content so far by the way
For all the changes they did to Namor, the one thing they just had to keep were his ankle wings. They always looked ridiculous, but now, for some reason, it's just amplified.
Most things in animation & comics look 10x more ridiculous in live action. Which is why so many live action adaptations of animated material usually don’t look good at all
@@GiveGodCredit live action anime in a nutshell.
@@jonathanathor117DBE is the best in DB franchise. High School Goku best Goku
If they weren't interested in adapting the classic Namor (which, as we saw, they weren't), they should've went with his Ultimate design.
I’m over here soaking it up not even realizing how watered down Namor actually is in the film.
They should have renamed him to Ramon
Double water pun, very nice
@@quicknips_ 😆
The guy who drowned Black Panther’s mother? Did we watch the same movie?
@@calypso I laughed at this much more than it any right.
There's a scene in Infinity war where shuri mucks Bruce banner and Tony stark, she ask " why didn't you do this thing to your robot, I'm sure you did your best " ...All i can think about is, shuri where is your robot, where are your robots with highly advanced brains that can fly etc etc etc 😂😂😂....they wanted to make shuri look smarter than bruce and tony but i never believed it, it looks forced.
All I thought was HULK SMASH HER FACE IN
"We both have mothers" ...triggering PTSD flashback to MARTHA
How do you know that name!?
Why you say that name red underwaring shit
@@DVINEPEACE95 because that's what the script said lol
@@BradLad56 you don’t get the reference do you
Going through Rotten Tomatoes ratings is fucking hilarious. 90% of the 5-star reviews sound like they were written by a bot and when you click on their rating history almost all of them have the combined diversity of 1 movie, Wakanda Forever.
Wow
Chadwick Boseman himself wants T’Challa to be recast. although they handled his death respectfully they killed off T’Challa and profited his death. such great story telling. riri head shaking/69420
Didn’t know you could talk to dead people
@@totallyrad9691 his brother made a statement regarding his last will and about the role of T’Challa. Bold of you to assume Chadwick is an idiot like you
@@totallyrad9691That comment is quite thoughtless. Boseman likely prepared a letter in case of his passing.
I agree that they should’ve recasted T’Challa yet still payed a subtle tribute to Chadwick Boseman’s passing
It would be very disrespectful to completely replace him
@@nightskyartistics1425 it’s confirmed Chadwick would’ve wanted T’Challa to be recasted and there’s still many black Panther stories that needed to be told. It would’ve still been fine if they recasted him and still subtly tribute Chadwick and still have the dedication and whatnot but the movie was good and it felt like another funeral for Chadwick
@@nightskyartistics1425 Chadwick should of been recasted bruh T’Challa is to essential to the MCU to be killed off
@@nightskyartistics1425 it's a movie bro, it's business, the only way I can see it being disrespectful is if they released the movie shortly after hia death (which they actually did)
@@vitordarksider& using his death to push the Marketing
They had no problem replacing William Hurt after he died with Harrison Ford, so they should've recasted T'Challa too. It gives this message that William Hurt didn't matter as much as Chadwick which is an awful and not very hero-like take on human lives. Or maybe they think William didn't matter as much because of his color... and with the current state of the MCU and its Message, you know I'm not being far-fetched.
Reminder that William has been with the MCU since its beginning, 2008. There was no homage for him on social media. Not a special logo. Not a dedication.
totally different scenarios
@@gh0st-.-dxff531 Nah, it really isn't. Both are Marvel actors who died suddenly.
@@tumulovermelho93 yeah but one is played a very important character to there’re universe while the other played a side character
"Boohoo I'm a white man and marvel heroes are not all white like they used to be. Poor me who will represent me now? I'm sooo repressed" cry about it racist bozo
@@gh0st-.-dxff531 yes, the characters have different levels of importance, but bro, they are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS, the whole point is that different people can make interpret the same concept and still make it work, the character is NOT the actor
Last of 2 was the first thing that came to my mind after watching the movie in theaters. I’m glad I was not the only one who thought that. That’s not even a compliment either because the main thing wrong with both of them is that Ellie & Shuri don’t think twice about killing anyone affiliated with their actual target when those people aren’t the ones that killed their loved one & have families of their own but they choose not to kill the 1 person they have the most reason to kill & value their lives over every henchmen they killed for some odd reason
I'm a huge fan of Chadwick Boseman since 2013, When I first watched "42", Iwas a huge fan of his acting skills since then & it pisses me off how most of his "Fans" are winny immature brats who think he is a fictional Character, they didn't care he died, they only care for "We would never see again T'challa"
You think the big wigs at marvel care ?
PRETTY HIPOCRIT how they changed The Mandarin & N'kia to not be "R*cist"
YET THEY HAD NO PROBLEM on hiring an Infamous Mexican Lolcow(Tenoch Huerta) to play a r*cist Mexican caricature when Namor in the comics has NOTHING to do with Mexico
Black Panther 2 is a rehash of scenes and plots of BP1, IRON-MAN 1 and DOCTOR STRANGE 2 with protecting a girl.
The biggest problem I have with PB2 is.
It feels like disney attempted to make money off of the actors death.
I think the opposite, it appears that Chadwick's death legit blindsided everybody at the studio and they were legit upset, first that he died, and 2nd that he didn't tell anybody, because to be honest, he should of told people so they could be more prepared but whatever I wasn't in that situation. Anyway if they requested him everybody would be saying they are disregarding Chadwick in a cold heartless move to keep making money, so they dedicate an entire film to him and people still are saying they did it to make money. News flash, these movies are made to make money believe it or not and it was so obvious the best long term solution was to put feelings aside and recast Tchalla but they were too upset to do so.
What the hell are you talking about
Killmonger should’ve just been king and became the new black Panther
The teacher didn't genuinely say you can't do anything. Riri made the teacher say that I think. I could be wrong though.
you're correct, that page from the comics was the visual during that criticism. Only the teacher said 'she'd never be like tony stark' (paraphrasing)
@@braedenalberti and I. The comics tony was smarter then all of the other characters he just lacked vibranium.
@@alpha6games751& THE WORST PART IS that they already had the Prefect replacement for Iron Man after Tony's death in DR. DOOM/Infamous Iron Man, & despite that series had great sales Marvel cancel it after just 12 issues, in favor to Push Riri as The "TRUE" replacement for Tony
I do agree with them replacing Chadwick. It makes a lot more sense than just killing him off.
Wakanda in the comics does kind of remind me of the adeptus mechanicus from 40k in the fact they hoard their tech for different reasons. Some of the reasons are more justifiable than others while some are more flawed and short term but you can at least understand why they do it.
They Should Of Recasted T’challa For David Oyelowo (African Actor) And Gotten Luke Evans To Play Namor.
Make T’challa Have Most Of the Screen Time As The Main Character And His Give Back Intelligence, Take Out All Of the Side Characters Out of The Franchise. (Including Shuri)
Make Namor an Arragont, Jacked, Masculine, Giga Chad Anti-Hero. Not A Soy Boy Who Is Being Used To Promote An Agenda Of Being An Person Of Color And Being Oppressed And Staging An All-Out Race War Which The Audience Somehow Agrees With. (Looking At You Killmonger.)
Maybe Get Tom Cruise as Iron Man From A Different Universe.
Iron Man Teams Up With Black Panther And Wakanda To fight Namor And Atlantis In An All-Out War Type Film.
Pretty Easy Script To Write.
Sadly It Never Happen…😐
Spot on, also loved how you nail down the character Namor is supposed to be and how much they've failed with this strange mayan doppleganger they have in the movie
I didn’t see the movie and it was because the villain looked so boring to me. He didn’t seem intimidating at all like you said. So I’m glad I wasn’t wrong.
The other thing was that they didn’t recast T’challa. It’s possible to introduce a new character as his successor without showing his death but I can’t see Disney Marvel handling it well. I’m just glad they didn’t Frankenstein his face like they did with Carrie Fisher. They didn’t, right?
I hope M’baku is cool. I like his character. But I wasn’t sold on anything else. It’s not enough to be a sequel to Black Panther for me to see it.
The villain invaded Wakanda and killed their Queen in front of their Princess, he's so cold-blooded. Even the negative reviews for this movie all acknowledged that Nemor was a real badass who could be parts charming and persuasive but fully a psychopathic dicched.
Hopefully, We get A Black Panther TV Show With T’Challa Being The Main Focus. Played By Aldris Hodge. Show His Full Comic Book Storylines. Don Mcgregor To Christopher Priest.
Like A Drama Series.
Honestly, that Iron Heart (lame name) suite was waaaaay more horribly made than all the Power Ranger suites…
What were they thinking…??
There was actually someone that saw the last iteration of that suits design and went like:
“Ah right ok, that will do!” Signed-Off! 🤷🏼♂️
I’m honestly mixed if I want to go see this movie, but this review was great and funny
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As a long time Black Panther fan this movie is absolutely NOT a Black Panther movie. It completely and utterly disregards the source material and makes Namor look like a moron and if Marvel expects me to be excited for anything related to Wakanda and Black Panther in the future without the main freaking character T'Challa.....yeah they can miss me with that bs. Honestly they should have recasted T'Challa because this franchise has no legs when it comes to adapting any other future Black Panther stories without T'Challa (and NO the mid-credits scene with the made up son TJ is not a "recast" and I'm not investing time into some made up character when you could have just recasted the original)
WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF MARVEL'S MOST POWERFUL MOVIE????
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The movie was good and one of the better productions in phase 4 but it still could’ve been better especially with bigger battles and more people fighting. 6.3 out of 10
When you say Namor my subtitle actually went Neymar as in Neymar the footballer LMAO
Loving these videos man!
It seems that the reception to this review is rather mixed. Hopefully, once I make my much longer and more through follow up video, opinions on this films will unify a bit more. But until then, carry on with your great debates! (but be nice to each other)
Namor says he has more soilders than Wakanda has blades of grass yet from what we saw in the movie a big bomb can anahilate the armies of Wakanda and Talokan simultaneously. Not even an atomic bomb, just a big regular bomb.
Their armies all fit on a ship, how strong can their millitary power be?
Dr doom should have been the unifying factor for Atlantis and Wakanda. The battle of the three most advanced nations in marvel.
Dr Doom is too big for Namor and Bagheera alone, so no.
8:13 Guess you forgot that at the end of the film that this does still happen. We don't get a conclusion of how this goes down but the film doesn't just forget like you've implied.
In the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, the nation of Wakanda had many similar narrative beats as the movies without the flaws in worldbuilding. Most of it has to do with the fact that the Black Panther's Story had little to nothing to do with racial discrimination, slavery, or righting past wrongs. It was about the fact that overly strict adherence to traditions can be harmful. And it's still an extremely high tech hidden African Nation that shockingly still resembles tribal Africa. In the cartoon, T'Challa was begging T'Chaka not to accept Man-Ape's (M'Baku's) request for Trial by Combat, because it was a dumb tradition, that did not prove the new ruler would rule well, and T'Challa knew that Man-Ape was planning to cheat. T'Chaka didn't listen, and was promptly killed for it, leaving Man-Ape as the new King of Wakanda, and T'Challa fled to the United States to get help from the Avengers (the Fantastic Four in the Comics) in order to take back the throne from Man-Ape. Despite being a very high-tech Nation due to the access of tons of Vibranium, Wakandans still use spears instead of firearms. Narrative themes are probably more important to the worldbuilding of Wakanda than anywhere else in the Marvel Universe, to the point that if they try to change the message of it, that Wakanda seems to have poor worldbuilding because of it.
It’s not a good movie and they was supposed to definitely replace the king. There is so much story to be tell
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thank you kind sir ,
now i won't have to go to theaters to watch this.
love all your recent videos.
I wouldn't let a guy on the internet formulate my opinions on something i haven't seen.
Just wait for it to get to streaming services and pirate it.
@@FrancisCastiglione you seem to be right .
Actually I wrote that comment. Cause I barely go to theaters to watch any movie so I just wanted to know if the movie is good or not for theatrical viewing
So one major issue I have to address with this video. You keep pointing out how Wakanda is portrayed as this perfect, flawless nation, but like, the first film pretty much addresses it's many faults, with is power structure, isolationism among other things. Wakanda forever shows how they've tried to evolve its pass mistakes and even then, is protayed far from perfect just for the very fact that they still end up going to a pointless war and almost get destroyed as a result.
Plus, I think its somewhat ignorant to criticise Wakanda's negative on western society given that's its clearly based off the real life dark past that African nations have with western countries like America.
right, this guy just seems to have a hard-on for shitting on anything that depicts western nations as flawed and ignoring the plot points that he dunks on that were touched in the og film.
Namor’s last name is Mckenzie. His dad is canonically a white American of Irish descent. But the MCU decided he should be Aztec influenced and played by a Mexican actor. God forbid they adapt one of the many Mexican Marvel characters.
Instead of wasting Namor on this, they should make an adaptation of the great Daredevil issue where he fights Sub-Mariner who wants to sue the human race.
No fucking way, you're here too 🤣
@@shardsoftime0952 A good video is a good video.
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The actors scale might have more to do with covid restrictions than anything. You can tell in a lot of movies covid stuff that harmed the movie like in black adam the actors barely move from their bubbles and the scenes are so stiff. I dont have examples from BP2 bc it was boring and i turned it off
HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!! 11:53a.m. 11/24/2022
Wakanda Forever Waiting To Exhale
Ready, Set it off, Swim
Black Lesbian Matriarchy vs Mexican swim team
Finally He is back😭
You got a point there since the multiverse is already established.
This is proof of a multiverse because if you think this guy got a point we are in completely different universes lol
10:16 YOU'RE A FRAUD, SPIDER-MAN!
I consider this film like no way home, good for me and I still enjoy it (especially the tribute to Chad Wick) but it has many flaws.
Not gonna lie you definitely change my mind on some stuff from this movie especially comics comparison but I still very much like it and I personally wouldn’t say shuri was perfect but broken in a way and I did find Namor here very cold but I agree that he’s a step down still like this movie very much and I don’t like iron heart at all
it was a pretty good movie. Not the best but one of the better ones in this phase.
It's ok not good...... in my opinion
Agreed
I guess the one-eyed is king of the blind is the motto you want to implement here?
People seem to forget that there is "i enjoyed the movie" and "it's a good movie". Enjoy doesn't equal good, i myself have enjoyed quite a few trash movies. I however am at least aware they are objectively trash, regardless of my enjoyment, things that many people are not capable of these days.
Phase 4 including this movie has been 90% trash with the occasional good scenes/parts. Again, if you enjoyed it, great for you, but don't argue it's a good movie when there are so many story and writing decisions made that are objectively garbage. But hey at least they got rid of trial by combat for the 60+ year old queen, rip, and thin as a stick shuri without any reason, or did i doze off when they explained that?
@@DarkSun123456789 why did you write a whole paragraph they just liked the movie 💀
it is one of the better phase 4 films, but it's still far from reaching it's true potential, which is why i'm so harsh with my critiques. I just want marvel to maintain the high standard they started out with
ngl, yea the movie couldve been better but all im hearing here is some bad takes
That opening was hilarious
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Same thinking.
That's why I don't watch MCU movies anymore, and i don't care about the Kang stuff.
There supposed to be different if the mcu wanted to do more comic accurate movies they world have
Hey! NaMor is my favorite. This is the one superhero physic I could realistically achieve. 😅😅😅
Thank you 🙏
Can you do a video on the Netflix punisher? I don't know if you have read those comics but the comic punisher is far superior to the bernthal version despite what everyone says.
I think jon bernthal is awesome but he wasn't frank castle.
Really they messed up most of those characters except for matt murdock
Thank you kind sir
Hey mate. As much as i agree with your vids, you need to work on the way you talk. Everything you've said was in 1 continous monotone voice. Work on that and your vids will be so much better to watch :)
Iron heart and rhe rhe sucked and took suspension of disbelief to a new level.
So Nahmor and Namor aren’t the same character and has clear differences, no shit, but I guess it’s for content so sure …
Hehehe "woefully soft in body and mind" 😂
but its. afun movie :(
Another insightful essay, thanks
Wait your misrepresenting Namor’s goals. Namor doesn’t just want to attack the surface land because they owned slaves at one point. Governments were getting closer to Atlantis so Namor started to get threatened.
I'm hoping this is a joke
Ha ur mad
@@Trashcanrecordz I’m not hungry!
i actually agree with most of his opinions, but this just seems like he was just shitting on this movie cause he felt like it. I wonder if it's because the protagonist is a female.
@@fuckudag what 😂
@@fuckudag And maybe he is a racist too cause most of the actors are not white. Seriously, you are the epitome of left wing woke stupidity. Man points out obvious af flaws that anyone with half a braincell and who isn't a brainless "consoomer" can see --> "he obviously is sexist cause of female MC. I agree with most of his points but sexism made him do it." You do realize that by agreeing with most of his points and you condemning him to sexism you say that you're sexist too right? Else why would you agree? Genius.
11:52a.m. 11/24/2022
I hate this movie. Is in my top ten hated Marvel movies. I didn't hate this movie more than black widow tho but it's up there. The shire disrespect to Chadwick's legacy, using his death to make money and replacing him with a cheap knockoff. I am amazed at how people find this enjoyable. This whole movie is disgusting.
I dont mind the change of namor as someone who is from Latin America i like it but what they did to him terrible
Trashing marvel movies is trendy until you try trashing one that's overall pretty well received. This video is a swing and a miss.
Simp
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@@craversaints921 you're 10 months late idiot.
0:28 yikes bro 😬
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Dam now I get why this film was such a massive under profitable film making only make i think 878 to 890 million dollars world wide. versus the over 1.3 to 1.4 billion gross before adjusting for the absurdly high abnormal unheaincrease inflatation we have had since a year our 2 before the Covid out break slash unicron innitally started in Europe and Asia in mid fall late summer of 2019. the decently shorter and I think cheaper original gross. Outside of Spider-Man which majority of the bling bling it made got used for expenses theater compensation then 75% of what was left was split between marvel and Sony. Then Disney got the remaining 25% the phase 4 was a bad finical investment for all involved except for Sony. Who’s only been having very good luck maybe only having a couple of bad investment that lost money a year . last year I think there only flop was morbious twice. Then the year before there on big bad investment it was welcome to raccoon city film wise.
Honestly one of my favorites MCU movies
Sad times…
Facts this movie was really good
fair enough
Kakangu?
Who the fuck is Naymor
Other than that, good video
Cool Avengers thumbnail. I have that shirt
This whole thing is cringe. Nemor invaded Wakanda and killed the queen and you're talking about he doesn't make his presence felt? Seriously dude you're a weirdo who thinks he's being cool by hating on popular things to hate on smh. That's why I cringe. I don't like they made Nemor Mayan, but Kukulcán is an actual deity in MesoAmerican religion, The Feathered Serpent God who in modern day archeologists say the legend was inspired by a comet hitting Earth which resembles a snake tail in the sky, like the meteor that gave them vibranium. So it actually all ties together sorry they didn't keep the more muscular bikini speedos version for you.
For the algo 👍
I’ve watched a couple of your videos and I think you look at marvel completely wrong. You expect them to be the same as the comments, but if a story is already told once, why tell it again even if it is a different medium. You want the stories that you enjoy, but don’t have an open mind to hear the stories that are being told
This movie felt more like Black Panther: Fight for the Streets. Most pathetic war(potential war) on the modern screen...reminded me of the wakanda vs space monsters battle in infinity war. Small and dumb.
Ah Khun Khun khan 😃
Let's be honest the name is goated 😂😂
So every critique is correct, but I would argue is a bit nit-picky.the movie as a whole imo is a very refreshing upgrade in phase 4 even with the faults.
nice
6:38 What the fuck is this comic panel?
nah
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why is it just the same video on loop in the background?
nah mo re
It’s amazing how tone def most people are and deny the subtle and sometimes blatant white hate is in this film.
Telling the truth about white history and continued antics is not hate, fucking relax.
This was a phenomenal movie. Clickbait thumbnail. Idk shit about Namur but even I can tell this seems like it isn't the best adaptation. Then again I could be wrong. I'm saying ignoring the race swap. They could have made Namor more fish like. I could post how that would look to my Instagram but nah. But yeah the designa of the atleanteans were awesome and their appearances were so creepy. Such a great movie. No dumb mcu jokes
Its pronounced Nah-Mor
I Wish We Had A The REAL Namor. We Could Of Had An Serious Underwater Adventure Type Film Before Aquaman. Heck, Submariner Was Before Him! Of Course They Had To Emasculate Him Because He Was Too Alpha.
Anyone else think it’s funny that the character that actually acts like a colonizer in his early renditions was race swapped ?😂 Seem offensive when you think about it.
Yeah they coulda recasted actors die and get recast all the time its kind of a selfish way of thinking tbh one guy died therefore a character he played shall never be played by any one else ever again 😂😂 thats not how Hollywood works all the "dont recast types" need a reality check
You may not like mexican Namor but you don't need to pretend that comicbooks Namor is a cool character xd
Ohh boo hoo I got called a colonizer 😭😭😭😭
I cant bring myself to watch this movie.Knowing phase 4 its another woke rubbish.Also i just hate the new Namor.He looks NOTHING like Namor in the comics.He is NOT Namor to me.The choice for this is outrageous.(i have nothing against the actor but they could at least mask him a bit,make his hair or sumt?They werent even trying for crying out loud..).Every time i see a trailer of this movie i get mad.
okay then, I'll hear you out pal. Hopefully, you don't damper my moods far enough so that I do a bad job on my schoolwork and math tutoring work, because otherwise I solemnly swear I'll rip Marvel, Kevin Feige and everyone who inspired you to make this video a new one. *Maniacal laughter*
get to the beeping point. We don't-a think your mind is steady, we don't-a think your pizza's ready. Legs as limp as cold spaghetti, in the deep deep depths of regretti. Nevermind, I just got bored, bye. You can just mail me the original comics and then I'll tell you whether or not you are just a pessimist or not.
did you just like your own comment, limp shady?
Ryan Coogler's not comic fan even though he says he is
I liked the movie 🤷🏾♂️
And good for you. Braeden is pointing out flaws of the movie. You can like a movie as much as you want but it doesn't protect it from criticisms
"I like" doesn't equal "it's good" or "obvious flaws can't be pointed out".
Uhmm wow I didnt say it couldnt be criticized 😑 I was clearly stating my opinion 🤣...
@@jurannify the fact that people had a response for you saying « I liked the movie » is very funny 😂
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You described this movie to a T thank you for educating people on this weak movie.
White-splaining
Woman king, but marvel