How to wetsand 3D prints | How to remove orange peel in 3D prints plus how to polish 3D prints
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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Below is the video index that will take you to specific parts, use it to navigate through if you'd like.
Video index
Intro to video/orange peel 00:30
Why to wetsand? 01:15
What is orange peel,how to reduce it? 03:00
What is wetsanding? 05:30
My story on the vader dome 06:45
Factory orange peel 07:35
Basic comparison of wetsanded vs not 08:30
Recommended set up for wetsanding 10:00
Sandpaper selection and why 10:50
More tips on set up 12:15
Sanding with 1000 grit and tips 13:05
Sanding with 2000 grit and tips 16:35
Sanding with 3000 grit and tips 17:51
Sanding with 5000 grit why and why not plus tips 19:15
My method to buffing/polish the helmet 20:30
Buffing with a drill and tips 22:15
Inspecting after buffing 24:10
Heavy polishing and tips 25:10
Post polishing inspection 27:00
Light polishing and tips 29:10
Post polishing inspection & recommendations 29:40
Final polish if your ocd like me 31:15
Final inspection after fine polish and tips 32:15
Final shot 34:30
Final thoughts and whats next 35:06
Products used
3M wetsanding sand paper pack
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3000 grit trizact foam sanding pad
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5000 grit trizact foam sanding pad
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Drill polishing adapters & pads
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GYEON compound and polish
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Pads I specifically used
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Other compounds and polishes
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porter cable drill
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This was super useful!!
Thank you so much for posting this. Everyone talks about wet sanding, buffing and polishing in their videos but no one ever provides the step by step process. Awesome video and beautiful work!
Much more to come! Thanks for watching!
Very interesting and useful video. Thank you. I'm not sure of one thing. Do you make wet sanding just after the primer layer ? Or can you do it after the final glossy paint layer ? If it's the case, doesn't wet sanding ruin the glossy paint ?
Wetsanding should really only be done on the clear coat as it’s the last surface, BUT if you get trash or junk in primer or paint wetsanding & recoating should be performed
@@Darkwingdad Thank you. So if you do wet sanding on the clear coat, what is the delay ? Because paint needs some time to dry and get hard and reflective, sometimes 2 weeks sometimes more. So do you wait 2 or 3 weeks after clear coat painting to do wet sanding ?
@@SECTION5120 no if your coats are laid down properly 36-48 hours you can wetsand. If you buff/polish you want to make sure your using a body shop safe compound so certain solvents don’t get in & create solvent pop (tiny holes) paint can take up to 30 days to gas & cure but wetsanding can be performed much sooner than that
@@Darkwingdad OK, thank you very much for your help. I will try all that.
@@Darkwingdadbut what about then orange peel in the paint? doesn’t that have ti be wet sanded? how does that get removed?
Best tutorial on RUclips for wetsanding prints!! I wish I could “Like” it twice. Just so much awesome info in this video.
Thanks mike! I should have the wetsanding best practices up on Sunday youll like one too, plus a bonus for subscribers
Thank you! Got my first orange peel during a humid morning. I'm going to try your technique to get rid of the peel.
Will work like a charm!
I need a half scale vader helmet hrm.... this is great.
It’s nice to see someone actually showing all the hard work that goes into the final finish. Your OCD shines here like the light reflected on the end result. 👍👍
@@Serene-Scream I appreciate the kind words!
You essentially have to be pretty lucky to not have orange peel in a home paint environment. There are too many environmental factors that you have no control over (temp, humidity) compared to a dedicated paint shop area.
@@larrybud this is 100% true especially if using rattle can which has inconsistent psi
What if it's my base coat paint (before clear) that has orange peel? Do i clear it any way or wet sand the paint layer? I'm kinda lost there.
All you need to worry about is the top layer, especially if using rattle cans orange peel is inevitable. You can wetsand the base coat but you’ll need to add another coat or two on top bc when you sand it it will leave minor scratches & discoloration. Best to focus on the clear as that’s the last layer & most important.
This is absolutely one of the best channels out there for creating the perfect pro/helmet. I honestly appreciate all the work and knowledge you're sharing with us. Thank you!
I appreciate the kind words! Thanks for watching
Amazing as always. Would you consider doing a video on different types of clear coats and the best ones/methods?
I’m going to touch on that in my reducing orange peel video :)
Hi ! do you do the polish over the paint or over the clear coat ?
Clear coat, you always want the last layer smooth as possible, if you try to polish just the paint it’ll start to strip it off
@@Darkwingdad thank you very much
After the 3000 or 5000 grit what about finishing it without the drill and attachment?
You would just apply clear coat after the highest grit
@@Darkwingdad I was thinking that but thought that maybe another layer of clear coat would introduce more orange peel. But maybe it's fine if you just finish it off with one thin layer of clear after your highest grit. Thanks for the info!
@@ImmortalReaver it’s can but if you don’t polish it that’s the only other option for bringing the gloss back
this is really amazing and a lot of good information! Thank you so much. I build a lot of props and cosplay but i never really got into removing orange peel. I will try this on my Mark 85.
Thanks for watching!
Enjoyed this one! Thanks coach.
Earlier this year, I was wetsanding a 3d printed helmet to remove the "spider veins" and "orange peel" texture in preparation to clear coat it as high as 7000 grit. It was so smooth, the water sheened off and it was showing caustics on the surface of another area. However, that's where I went too high and when it came to clear coating the helmet, I had to go back and do it over again. It was too smooth.
At least now I just need to get some liquid compound and finish when I do the next helmet again.
Yea if you use machine buffing & polishing it’ll take it to a whole new level!
Finally printing a MF DOOM mask on my bambu and i want it to look like his actual mask with the hi chrome polish, thanks for leaving the links i just bough some of the stuff you used. Do you reccomend doing this process just after clear coat and not the color coat too
Yes, clear coat only. What type of paint are you using?
I was going to use either Montana gold or Ironlak in a Chrome
Hey again...lol so I used this chrome paint Dupli-Color automotiveMetallic series Chrome. I was told not to put clear coat on it, so it's got about 4 coats on it. Anything to worry about without a clear coat on it?
It can definitely scratch & get damage over time. Test the chrome on a spoon with clear. I don’t see why you can’t clear it
@@Darkwingdad it has been a few weeks since I painted it. I guess I can try some...lol
On what kind of Paints does this apply? Im sure this cant be done with many metal finishes? Is this more of a basecoat kind of thing?
You’re wetsabding the clear, so any acrylic enamel is fine. You can with lacquer too but lacquer has less shrink rate & often lays smoother with less peel
@@Darkwingdad Thanks! I wanna try to do the polishing on a black gloss and then after polishing add gold paint (Montana gold nitro-acrilic paint)
@@DatFunnyPerson don’t want to do that. Paint needs something to grab on to. If too smooth it will reject the paint. You should only wetsand clear coat. People who wetsand paint,primers etc are not only wasting time but potentially creating adhesion issues. Body shop 101 you wetsand the last layer you do, why? Because that’s the only layer that matters.
@@Darkwingdad valid info thanks!!
@@Darkwingdad sorry if I'm being annoying. But do you do this just on the clear coats? Or could i be doing that in the black base coat as well?
Not sure how I missed this video. Definitely your best wet sanding video for overall explanation and clarity.
wait a minute… am i supposed to wet sand the PAINT or the clear coat? lol nobody ever makes that distinction for some reason… i mean, the orange peel is in the PAINt so isn’t that what you have ti sand? i dont get it
@@braintrust12 no you do not wetsand the paint you’ll just remove the pigmentation. Your top most layer needs to be the smoothest, only sand the clear coat
@@Darkwingdadthen how do you get rid of the orange peel in the in the paint/base coat?
@@braintrust12 you can’t without damaging the pigmentation, that’s why you don’t. Wetsanding & refinement is for clear coat. Everytime you spray paint on whether it’s with a can or a gun there is ALWAYS going to be orange peel. On pigmented paint if you wetsand it your hooking to have to repaint it & literally just adding the orange peel back on. That’s why you only do it to clear coat bc you can buff and polish it. If you tried it on pigmented paint you’re stripping the color off.
Do you do the exact same on smaller detail pieces? I've tried to do this on my mandalorian 'ears' and not getting as good as results as I am for the rest of the helmet...thank you!
Yes it’s the same process, you are wet sanding after it’s clear coated correct?
@@Darkwingdad I have been using this technique on my gloss black before chrome as the gloss black came out super orange-peely, or do you think this was the wrong path to take and I should've just chromed it, clearcoated, and then used this method? Thanks so much for your help :)
@@kiaralim2335 yea don’t worry about actually wetsanded the colored paint. Can you? Yes, but there is a high likelihood that you’ll remove or damage the pigmentation and you’ll just have to respray it(bringing you right back where you started almost) IF your going to color sand use 5000 grit only. I would recommend simply applying your color, waiting 24 hours than apply your clear and proceed to wetsand the clear :)
@@Darkwingdad I see, I'll do that method from now on. Thank you again, your vids have been a huge help :)
fantastic job.
Thank you!
Lets BLOW this guys channel up! He give such great and detailed info. Truly inspiring! Keep putting out the great work :)
Incredible. What type of filament is your base and do you design the models yourself?
I used jayo filament. Not designing thing just yet, I’ve made a few things but nothing crazy
@@Darkwingdad sorry man, I meant like pla or petg. Creality sent me a free roll of white pla the other day and it's caused me nothing but trouble and about to order an all metal hotend. It gave me a print to practice on though and if I'm careful about fixing it itll be sell-worthy. Haha I'm going to fix it so it looks like it was injection molded hopefully. I'm going to get some crack filler you showed in another video and sand then paint it and so on. Thanks for the great tutorials man. I never knew where to start but now I do. I'm going to start a helmet this week. What one would you recommend for a newb?
@@jstro-hobbytech the white pla that creality gives you is JUNK, don’t get frustrated over it. I used pla on Vader
@@Darkwingdad beyond man. I hate waste. I'm saving all my waste pla until recycling at home in an affordable manner becomes a thing. We just bought a new house and there is an apartment downstairs that we care not to rent out so I have my music recording gear, electronics lab and a dedicated print room as soon as I can raise some funds to get a couple more printers. I'm going to control the humidity and heat using an esp32 based Lora network depending on what I'm printing. Abs for the main reason. I want to print a few cnc machines and voron kits to make money to reinvest in my plan I was telling you about. I'm hoping to have six printers by the fall going full tilt printing mpcnc, voron kits and other things I can sell like helmets and neopixel related lamps and other custom coded iot stuff. It's hard to get a not for profit business off the ground in the beginning man when you're not rich and want to build up a bunch of it yourself so people can see the value in a makerspace service when I have a small one going with hopes to grow just a little larger. Can't announce a service for people when you don't have a good base to sustain it and grow a little.
@@Darkwingdad hey man. I have a favor to ask. I'm going to pick up some more stuff to process prints with and I'm wondering what kind of canned aerosol paint and clear coat I should buy to play around with before I go and get airbrush station, I'm somewhat familiar with car painting as my father was a hobbyist body work guy. I have all the sand paper and super fine files I think I need to start. I also have my workshop fitted with a central air compressor system because it's quite large and used to be a cabinet workshop so I updated the whole system last year when we bought the new house. The mini airbrush guns can't tap off of that somehow can they? They come with a compressor of their own I believe. I'm getting ahead of myself asking that.
I spent about 10 hours the past week working on a piece that looks great as is because I want a matte finish. It's a lamp base for an iot neopixel lamp with a million effects. They cost 50 a pop to make and I'm giving a bunch away to drum up some local word of mouth interest. Can I use a small orbital sander on them as they have thick walls and I'm not going for the finish I plan to practice at getting with the helmets?
Any help would be greatly appreciated brother. I'd like to thank you as well for putting the darkwing duck theme song in my head for the past month as well hahahaha
Another masterpiece! With a side of knowledge!!
Thanks my man! Working on a black panther one for you!
This is the video I was looking for! It’s been hard to feel confident doing this when all the videos are just cars.
If you have any questions let me know. I’ve been painting cars & accessories for 12 years. My current business i do a lot of color & wetsanding on cars so if you’re unsure just hit me up!
@@Darkwingdad will do. I’m currently working on a mandalorian beskar setup, so I need that pure mirror finish and no matter what I’ve done I always get some orange peel.
@@nibblefritz it’s notorious with rattle can. Wet sand that clear & it’ll be flawless!
@@Darkwingdad that it is. I’ve got it to 3000 grit now so just waiting to get the things I need to finish it up