I always complete all of the tombs and side quests there when i'm either at my first or second planet, then finish the final trial last. Way too many useful items there too wait that long.
@@DarkLOREDash it feels good to kill Darksiders you say? But the very act of relishing in killing your opponent is in nature darkside. So does that mean it would feel good killing yourself under these circumstances? Edit autocorrect typo
Probably one of the only dialogue options I hadn't actually figured out in the game after all the hours I've played just bc I almost never do dark side lol
Did you know, not only can you get this conversation with him but also with his apprentice, kill both with the poison, with a 35 or higher persuade skill and High charisma you can convince the guard at the academy you're Revan! And now for something only a few diehard Kotor fan's know you can find Jolie Bendos old friend on Manan, you can find him guilty of the crime and convince the fishy fishy fish fish people not to execute sunry, just lock him up for life big ex and credits if you pull it off gotta have a 3-2poll on non death sentence! Enjoy Bros very hard to do.
@@kevingrube2517 I've played it way more than 22 times over, just don't usually play dark side. Thousands of hours in the game but I mean either never encountered this or just don't remember it bc I mean I've been playing the game since I was like six years old lol.
KOTOR still is impressive to me and really paved the way for games like Mass Effect 1. I wish developers still made games like this, I even enjoyed the combat system
Yeah like what’s the best modern game that’s like this? Mass Effect 1 and 2 were great, couldn’t be bothered to finish the 3rd, wasn’t a fan of Dragon Age
You can also reveal yourself to the woman, her dialogue also differs then. I did this on a dark side playthrough, I ate some light side points because I spared her, though.
@@fabi3790, another fun aspect is to return her to the light before the attack on Dantooine while on the Dark Side path. It is amusing. I however have always drifted back to the Sith, no matter my good intentions. And having my enemies kill one another and take out the innocent as well...is that not what it means to be a successful Sith Lord? Marka Ragnos, Revan, Kreia, Bane and all of the Rule of Two era Sith appreciated the nuance of operating behind the scenes manipulating people and events according to their will. Sith Lords tend to be destroyed by their enemies only they have drawn attention to themselves. This is the failing of Naga Sadow, Ludo Kresh, Darth Nihilus, Exar Kun, Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Darth Vitiate, Lord Kaan, and Darth Malak. I have not included Revan or Treya in the prior list because their situations were unique. 1) Darth Revan was never beaten by the Jedi, nor would they have been successful in defeating him when confronting him on his ship. He only fell when Malak attacked his ship which knocked him out. 2) Darth Traya/Kreia was not killed in open conflict with the entire galaxy bearing witness. Instead she was slain as she had lived, quietly and in secret. All these other Sith Lords named died or were eliminated from power in spectacular fashion. Naga Sadow and Ludo Kresh brought down the Sith empire by gaining the attention of the Republic and drawing them to Ziost and Korriban, and Vitiate followed a similar path. Exar Kun attacked Coruscant directly, eventually suffered defeat, and sealed away his spirit in the temples of Yavin Four. Lord Kaan was open about being the leader of the Sith and was rather ignominiously entombed on Rusaan by the thought bomb. Darth Malak, Darth Vader, and Emperor Palpatine were undone by their love of superweapons...that and Palpatine kept indulging his strange fetish for young men, a trait that eventually led to his ultimate undoing in a decidedly public location.
@@jayt9608 Sideous lasted as long as he did, because of various factors, including using the force to conceal his true identity from the Jedi, and also he bragged to Vader that he always chose apprentices who would never be as strong as he was, guaranteeing he would never be usurped.
I LOVED how this expanded on the nature of the force itself, especially the dark side, showing it wasn't as "black and white, cut and dry" as one may initially see. Uthar, for example, is remarkably at peace, almost akin to Yoda, with the force itself, and this revelation, almost like he already knew the truth. Now, of course, this is no longer the case, and dark side is just evil period again and boring. Original EU was the best part of the franchise, and KOTOR is a better Star Wars story than ALL of the films.
I agree completely, for conversations sake I’d throw in perhaps the rule of two enforced that gruesome evil. Since that era really it’s about two at a time dominating the rest, domination comes with a lot of evil
@@AlphabyteMusic Oh indeed, that fucked things up. Pushed for a ton of evil. But sadly it was WORSE before then, with the endless wars and slaughter that led to the need for the rule.
The Dark Side itself is not necessarily evil. But the Sith are. Not because those who use it are mean or not, or at peace or not, but because to power themselves, they ultimately must resort to causing and consuming the pain, suffering, and hopelessness of others as you dominate them. It is what is caused upon others that makes the Sith monsters. They may claim their goal is self freedom, but the consequences of their bids for power end in all those around them having objectively worse lives.
After grinding out 400 hours from kotor2 back to back, and roughly the same amount on just kotor, I'm happy I found out basically all hidden dialogue on my own too :D
And light side getting yathura to turn was a huge find for me some 8 years after game release. I felt that there was so much to discover even after thinking I had done everything
His response to the reveal doesn't make sense. Darth Revan is a living legend. This guy would be in awe and want to serve him. He brushes it off as if it's no big deal.
I think that's just old school voice acting issues. They had excellent voice actors, but still weren't great at coaching them to voice their characters the way they wanted. Bioware got a lot better at that thankfully.
Yes, but keep in mind, Reven is a living legend WHO HE KNEW. It's not like George Washington stepped out of the pages of history here. It's more like your uncle who was in the military but was MIA runs into you with semi-amnesia. You aren't sure he's fully okay, and he's going to go do some tests to make sure he's fully restored and is who he says he is - after which point you intend to fully embrace him back into your family.
back when RPGs were 90% story driven and 10% difficult if you play scoundrel with a staff saber X3 flurry master speed x2 valor and x3 implant makes it so you can literally 2 shot malak and 1 shot everything else including the dark side rancor on kashyyyk for the mask
@@DarkLOREDash scoundrels get a perk called sneak attack if you hit from behind from stealth you do mad damage get a lot of dex and implants for dex and you can one shot most things. Also forgot to mention that stuns also make sneak attack deal extra damage so on a ls playthrough I go down the stasis line for ds its the horror line
This was rare? I always assumed Korriban was the last planet before heading to the Star Forge because Bastilla wouldn't come out of the Ebon Hawk on this planet. And since I always made her my early healer until I got Jolee, I never finished Korriban before the other planets anytime I played. So I always got this dialouge on my dark side playthroughs.
In my dark side playthroughs, I frequently poisoned and killed both Yuthura and Uthar. I've only had this dialogue play once in a dozen or so playthroughs.
I always go to Korriban last. It feels like the most natural thing to do. Honestly, since I played it first time I usually tend to go Tattooine, Kashyykz Manaan and then Korriban every time. Maybe swap the first two around at times.
By contrast, I considered that reason for it to be one of the first. It's a Sith World, so infiltrating it would be easier while Revan is still largely unknown to the Sith.
Dude what?! I’ve been playing this game at least once a year since 2003 and not once did I notice this. It’s amazing that I’m still finding out new options for this 2 decade old game. One of the many reasons it’s my all time favorite
What an intriguing find!!!!! Almost 20 years later and we're still uncovering all these cool components to apply to various playthroughs. P.S.: I haven't played the DS version in some time. This gives me all the more reason to play the alternate ending, just to see this conversation and dialogue play out as you presented in this video. Thanks, Dash!!!!!
I've done a playthrough changing the order of planets visited every time (Revan's been my fav character since his conception) and when I discovered I could take over the academy it was the coolest thing.
@@freshprinceoffrance754 My first time through he was hard as shit. Second time I knew to go there last, and also never spent any feat points on ranged stuff, so I was a little more OP. Still, he won't go down EASY.
That remains one of my favorite bits of dialogue from the OG. Never knew it was rare, though. All you have to do is follow the order they intended. Good video, fam.
0:42 Correction; after acquiring *four* star maps. In this case, those four being the ones on Dantooine, Manaan, Kashyyyk, and Tatooine (the latter three being in whatever order the player chooses)
I preferred to redeem Yathura Ban. if you do Korriban for your first or second Star Map fragment, you can convince her (with a high enough charisma + persuade) to return to Dantooine and the Jedi Order. You can even visit her when Dantooine is still an available destination.
This is tough to do, though. Not because it's hard in the sense that it is programmed that way, it's because of what you need to sacrifice. The only way you can get him to trust you, is if you refuse to aid Yuthura at all. And hence, you never get the key to Uthar's room. So you are unable to redeem Dustil Onasi with the datapad contained within, nor are you able to get the Sith Mask, which lets you regenerate Force points x2. So it's a double-negative trade for completionists in terms of both item collectors and quest finishers. I'd say it's better to kill Uthar, irregardless of Light Side or Dark Side alignments, just to get the mask, and to complete Dustil's quest.
@@DarkLOREDash But when I tried to do it, though, Uthar kept trying to kill me because I conspired with her. I didn't get the scene in the video above until I did as I said in the comment above. Then again, it was on the XBOX ONE version, so maybe that affected it? I need to retry it on the original XBOX, see if it works there...
I HAD NO IDEA THIS CHANNEL EXISTED! I used to watch you back with Dash Star back when I was younger and I’m honestly glad your channel popped up in my recommended page 😁
@@DarkLOREDash I always do Korriban at last. You can tell Yuthura that you are Revan too. and Canderous's Fifth Dialogue is slightly different if you do that after Revan Reveal. He says 'you' or 'you revan' instead of 'the jedi revan'. Honestly, it feels better that way.
ive watched two of these videos now and i just realized ive played kotor so much i might actually have done every possible thing in it when i was a kid ;_; . we NEED ANOTHER ONE MADE.
I think killing Uthar and installing Yuthara Ban as the new Master of the Sith Academy makes much more sense from a storyline point of view as a dark side player character. Yuthara is more likely to be loyal to you in the future because you helped her gain power.
I think it's if not canon, then either quasi-canon or previously-canon that yuthura ban survives and possibly turning to the light side if you convince her. Not sure if the lore is from kotor, kotor 2 or swtor, but I do believe I saw something in that regard somewhere.
@@tabunga4669 : I said 'more likely' to be loyal, not '100% certain' to be loyal. Anyway, a Sith only betrays another if he thinks he is going to be successful. If he is successful, that justifies the attempt. And if the attempt fails, then he deserves the punishment for failure (death).
@@timonsolus yeah. You can see where many sith are respectful or even worship another more powerful sith. If they feel their idol has weakened, then it is considered honorable to fight and attempt to overpower. Failure nearly always means death.
While there is no order to the planets, Korriban is most often saved for last. Not having Bastila generally stalled people from going there early, and Terentatek are quite violent for early game. This isn't rare. This is an extremely common dialogue that many, many people get.
On every dark side playthrough I did it the following order: Tatooine, Manaan, Kashyyk (Leviathan cutscene) then Korriban. Why? Because each planet has its own darkside main questline from low to high with the starmap choices on their own. For example, on Tatooine you have to kill a rare dragon to access the starmap, on Manaan you get the option to kill a planet's legend, Kashyyk forces you to have darkside choices as replies then Korriban where you are a sith. It's kinda logical.
I really hope they remake is really good and they keep to the original story and not try to change it! Especially since that one chick is working on the game it better not turn into a sjw nightmare!
@@kylewindover7931 yup and they still gonna make her the MC no matter what. Even worse, marry sue her like rey and thus, ruining her great character. I still wonder why they choose retarded writer for this game who believe episode 8 the best star wars film ever. The future looks grim and dark. I believe its gonna be ruined or mediocre. If that was the case, I hope there is mod community who is gonna remake the game with OG storyline using the new game engine. Doesn't even need to be perfect, just decent.
I had the Xbox version of KOTOR 2 and i played it many times as the dark side and the light side and with the different classes. Im currently playing it on my phone and i was shocked and surprised at the amount of extra content and dialog i unlocked that i never seen or heard before. I had no idea that Hanharrr was a playable character, i completely forget about the cave in Korriban where you have to be aligned light or dark to enter. I had no idea that Atton can become a jedi. The weapons cache on Duxn that i couldn't enter because i didn't have the right explosives. How could of i missed all this playing the xbox version? So cool.
You have to find 4 first canonically he went to Dantooine, Tatooine, Kashyyk, Manaan then Korriban cause we know he kills Calo Nord on Tatooine and Darth Bandon on Manaan
idk why I watched it knowing I've played everysingle line of diaologue in KOTOR atleast 3 times in this game... Even me practically being able to act our the characters in this game, doesn't deter from how amazed I am by the characters everytime i play it
KOTOR I & II are actually two of my favorite games. In KOTOR I I’ve only gone the Path of the Jedi, played as a Sith in KOTOR II though. They were supposed to release KOTOR III and it was going to be Real Time instead of Turn Based. I’m still waiting for it lol. I was thinking they might be planning it because they re-mastered the originals. Star Wars needs another RPG that’s at least as deep as KOTOR but RT instead of TB. With what developers can do today they could make an incredible game but only if it’s not rushed & they give it a big enough budget to have enough ppl working on it so it doesn’t take a decade, but is released as a finished product, not like what so many companies have been doing the last 3-5 years releasing unfinished garbage.
Doing Korriban early is bad because you may miss out on Carth's sidequest. Doing it late as Jedi means you may miss out on the extra Yuthura dialogue on the Jedi enclave. I always try to do it second so I can unlock everything as a Jedi, leave it for last if I go dark side
Excellent. I love attention to detail like that. Question. If you played Fallout 4, did you ever find military fatigues in a footlocker in your house after you wake up from the freeze? I did. Confirming our military past.
@@CosmicGoku529 I know. I'm just wondering if anyone else found the military fatigues in your original house like I did the first time I played or if it was just random.
Its been a fair bit since I played the first KOTOR, but I'm pretty sure you get unique dialogue for every planet if you visit it after learning you're Revan.
@@DarkLOREDash it's all good, I was just searching for her talking about kotor and surprisingly I've yet to find an interview where she has. Man honestly, her performance was grade A, and she was the perfect woman to play kreia.
What would have been cool is if you are dark side you could have had the chance of recruiting either Uthar or Yuthura as your apprentice depending on which one you let live.
I chose that dialogue on my first ever playthrough that I just completed. I chose the dark side and had a purple lightsaber and red short saber. I even fought through the hellish Hord of Sith to get Revans robes. I killed Malak after 3 tries, I gotta say this game is still a 10/10 in 2024. Im on KOTOR 2 now.
I have actually went through this particular dialogue maybe 3 or 4 times during all the years of playing the game but I couldn’t remember what was said in the dialogue.
Hey, can you go through and put KOTOR SPOILER before the title on all of your videos that have spoilers in the title like this one does? I was careful to avoid spoilers going into this game, but scrolling through RUclips one day I had the plot twist spoiled for me by a video title. If I had seen that it was a KOTOR SPOILER I would have stopped reading and could have enjoyed the game much more on my first playthrough. Thanks!
My copy must have been glitched. Whenever I did Korriban last the game crashed and when I reloaded it it would give me this screen saying that I gained dark side, gained light side, net gain of dark side, net gain of light side and a lot of other stuff. It would only happen when I did Korriban as the last planet and only when I entered the final tomb for the last time. As a result I could never get this rare dialogue since I could never do Korriban last. … then again whenever I got into a space battle the shields for the Ebon Hawk would never drain no matter how many times I was shot. 🤷🏻 When I switched from an Xbox to a 360 there were so many auto glitches that the game became unplayable and I had to get rid of it. That was a sad day
This requires a player to be (A) an aspiring Sith, and (B) uninterested in going directly to the Sith homeworld, Koriban. No wonder it's a rare dialogue.
TL;DW Complete Korriban post Leviathan during a dark side run and work with Uthar after Yuthura reveals her plan to you. From there, choose the correct dialogue.
i played so many times i tested everything possible i think - especially with this encounter which gives so many outcomes. i think the only thing i needed help with was the puzzle in Naga Sadows tomb - but then again i was still like 12yo back then.
I always left Manaan last in all my playthroughs, Best place to leave last.... its serene, calm and a final last star warsish adventure before the storm
i do these 4 in this order because the first time I fought Calo with the wookies on Kash it was very difficult I even tried fighting Bandon on Kash even that was hard to do
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It's a real shame that Tom Kane isn't coming back for the remake
He was so masterful as Uthar. Stunningly good, had no idea til I looked it up after this video
@@DarkLOREDash seriously, Tom Kane has been in like every Star Wars video game I can think of
I am kinda eager to know who's gonna do Canderous's voice.
@@proghostzgamecreed6555 me too 😔
@@DarkLOREDash Don't forget when he voiced Vandar Tokare, and all the times in other media he voiced Yoda!
Bold of you to assume I'd *ever* leave the best planet for that late in the game.
Its difficult.
I always complete all of the tombs and side quests there when i'm either at my first or second planet, then finish the final trial last. Way too many useful items there too wait that long.
@@XDarkStrikerX and it feels good to kill darksiders 🤣
@@DarkLOREDash it feels good to kill Darksiders you say?
But the very act of relishing in killing your opponent is in nature darkside.
So does that mean it would feel good killing yourself under these circumstances?
Edit autocorrect typo
Bastila couldn't leave the ship regardless so it always felt like a waste
So many years later and still finding new things out about this game!
Only reason I have this IPhone is so I can play kotor 1-2 so easily lmaoo
Probably one of the only dialogue options I hadn't actually figured out in the game after all the hours I've played just bc I almost never do dark side lol
Did you know, not only can you get this conversation with him but also with his apprentice, kill both with the poison, with a 35 or higher persuade skill and High charisma you can convince the guard at the academy you're Revan! And now for something only a few diehard Kotor fan's know you can find Jolie Bendos old friend on Manan, you can find him guilty of the crime and convince the fishy fishy fish fish people not to execute sunry, just lock him up for life big ex and credits if you pull it off gotta have a 3-2poll on non death sentence! Enjoy Bros very hard to do.
Really? You guys didn't play this 22 times to find all dialogue
@@kevingrube2517 I've played it way more than 22 times over, just don't usually play dark side. Thousands of hours in the game but I mean either never encountered this or just don't remember it bc I mean I've been playing the game since I was like six years old lol.
KOTOR still is impressive to me and really paved the way for games like Mass Effect 1. I wish developers still made games like this, I even enjoyed the combat system
Yes KOTOR was awesome. And Mass Effect as well.
I wanna replay them all now:D
I used to dread playing a game with the combat system now it's one of my favorites. I'm a big RTS gamer and love the strategy behind it.
Mass effect sucks
Yeah like what’s the best modern game that’s like this? Mass Effect 1 and 2 were great, couldn’t be bothered to finish the 3rd, wasn’t a fan of Dragon Age
@@A5tr0101 no
You can also reveal yourself to the woman, her dialogue also differs then. I did this on a dark side playthrough, I ate some light side points because I spared her, though.
Try to get Canderous Fifth dialog after Revan Reveal.
In my dark playthrough I killed them both
XD
I was pretty ruthless. Expect for Bastila.
@@NerdHerdForLife yeah
@@fabi3790, another fun aspect is to return her to the light before the attack on Dantooine while on the Dark Side path. It is amusing. I however have always drifted back to the Sith, no matter my good intentions. And having my enemies kill one another and take out the innocent as well...is that not what it means to be a successful Sith Lord? Marka Ragnos, Revan, Kreia, Bane and all of the Rule of Two era Sith appreciated the nuance of operating behind the scenes manipulating people and events according to their will. Sith Lords tend to be destroyed by their enemies only they have drawn attention to themselves. This is the failing of Naga Sadow, Ludo Kresh, Darth Nihilus, Exar Kun, Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Darth Vitiate, Lord Kaan, and Darth Malak.
I have not included Revan or Treya in the prior list because their situations were unique. 1) Darth Revan was never beaten by the Jedi, nor would they have been successful in defeating him when confronting him on his ship. He only fell when Malak attacked his ship which knocked him out. 2) Darth Traya/Kreia was not killed in open conflict with the entire galaxy bearing witness. Instead she was slain as she had lived, quietly and in secret.
All these other Sith Lords named died or were eliminated from power in spectacular fashion. Naga Sadow and Ludo Kresh brought down the Sith empire by gaining the attention of the Republic and drawing them to Ziost and Korriban, and Vitiate followed a similar path. Exar Kun attacked Coruscant directly, eventually suffered defeat, and sealed away his spirit in the temples of Yavin Four. Lord Kaan was open about being the leader of the Sith and was rather ignominiously entombed on Rusaan by the thought bomb. Darth Malak, Darth Vader, and Emperor Palpatine were undone by their love of superweapons...that and Palpatine kept indulging his strange fetish for young men, a trait that eventually led to his ultimate undoing in a decidedly public location.
@@jayt9608 Sideous lasted as long as he did, because of various factors, including using the force to conceal his true identity from the Jedi, and also he bragged to Vader that he always chose apprentices who would never be as strong as he was, guaranteeing he would never be usurped.
I LOVED how this expanded on the nature of the force itself, especially the dark side, showing it wasn't as "black and white, cut and dry" as one may initially see. Uthar, for example, is remarkably at peace, almost akin to Yoda, with the force itself, and this revelation, almost like he already knew the truth.
Now, of course, this is no longer the case, and dark side is just evil period again and boring. Original EU was the best part of the franchise, and KOTOR is a better Star Wars story than ALL of the films.
I agree completely, for conversations sake I’d throw in perhaps the rule of two enforced that gruesome evil. Since that era really it’s about two at a time dominating the rest, domination comes with a lot of evil
@@AlphabyteMusic Oh indeed, that fucked things up. Pushed for a ton of evil. But sadly it was WORSE before then, with the endless wars and slaughter that led to the need for the rule.
@@AlphabyteMusic And if you're having too many wars for STAR WARS, then you know you got too many wars.....
@@tyrongkojy truly times of chaos 🤣
The Dark Side itself is not necessarily evil. But the Sith are. Not because those who use it are mean or not, or at peace or not, but because to power themselves, they ultimately must resort to causing and consuming the pain, suffering, and hopelessness of others as you dominate them.
It is what is caused upon others that makes the Sith monsters. They may claim their goal is self freedom, but the consequences of their bids for power end in all those around them having objectively worse lives.
After grinding out 400 hours from kotor2 back to back, and roughly the same amount on just kotor, I'm happy I found out basically all hidden dialogue on my own too :D
Damn that's neat :D
And light side getting yathura to turn was a huge find for me some 8 years after game release. I felt that there was so much to discover even after thinking I had done everything
Just discovering that on my current playthru and it makes me so happy lol...been playing this game since it came out and still finding things!
True
His response to the reveal doesn't make sense. Darth Revan is a living legend. This guy would be in awe and want to serve him. He brushes it off as if it's no big deal.
He does say "When you return I and all sith will serve you".
I think that's just old school voice acting issues. They had excellent voice actors, but still weren't great at coaching them to voice their characters the way they wanted. Bioware got a lot better at that thankfully.
The Sith are self interested assholes who don’t really have respect for anyone else other than themselves. No matter how legendary someone is.
I mean yeah he is revan but the guy is a sith so no matter how legendary A figure may be self interest will win out
Yes, but keep in mind, Reven is a living legend WHO HE KNEW.
It's not like George Washington stepped out of the pages of history here. It's more like your uncle who was in the military but was MIA runs into you with semi-amnesia. You aren't sure he's fully okay, and he's going to go do some tests to make sure he's fully restored and is who he says he is - after which point you intend to fully embrace him back into your family.
back when RPGs were 90% story driven and 10% difficult if you play scoundrel with a staff saber X3 flurry master speed x2 valor and x3 implant makes it so you can literally 2 shot malak and 1 shot everything else including the dark side rancor on kashyyyk for the mask
Wow, I had no idea!
Why scoundrel?
@@DarkLOREDash scoundrels get a perk called sneak attack if you hit from behind from stealth you do mad damage get a lot of dex and implants for dex and you can one shot most things. Also forgot to mention that stuns also make sneak attack deal extra damage so on a ls playthrough I go down the stasis line for ds its the horror line
Dark side rancor?
@@ImmortalSoul7756 yes the force sensitive rancor you see in kashyyyk and korriban
I love Uthar Wynn. He has the look of pure evil and hate like Darth Maul but has the personality of Dooku
This was rare? I always assumed Korriban was the last planet before heading to the Star Forge because Bastilla wouldn't come out of the Ebon Hawk on this planet. And since I always made her my early healer until I got Jolee, I never finished Korriban before the other planets anytime I played.
So I always got this dialouge on my dark side playthroughs.
She can’t come out because the sith would know who she is and she is too important to lose.
In my dark side playthroughs, I frequently poisoned and killed both Yuthura and Uthar. I've only had this dialogue play once in a dozen or so playthroughs.
Yeah there's nothing remotely rare about this lol. Quite frankly, it was a pretty ordinary play through for a lot of people.
I always go to Korriban last. It feels like the most natural thing to do. Honestly, since I played it first time I usually tend to go Tattooine, Kashyykz Manaan and then Korriban every time. Maybe swap the first two around at times.
By contrast, I considered that reason for it to be one of the first. It's a Sith World, so infiltrating it would be easier while Revan is still largely unknown to the Sith.
Dude what?! I’ve been playing this game at least once a year since 2003 and not once did I notice this. It’s amazing that I’m still finding out new options for this 2 decade old game. One of the many reasons it’s my all time favorite
So you didn’t finish Korriban last every time you played? Getting this dialogue is a pretty normal playthrough tbh
What an intriguing find!!!!!
Almost 20 years later and we're still uncovering all these cool components to apply to various playthroughs.
P.S.: I haven't played the DS version in some time. This gives me all the more reason to play the alternate ending, just to see this conversation and dialogue play out as you presented in this video.
Thanks, Dash!!!!!
I never got that kind of dialogue, every playthrough I almost always go to korriban cause in the beginning. holy smack cow that planet is hella fun.
I've done a playthrough changing the order of planets visited every time (Revan's been my fav character since his conception) and when I discovered I could take over the academy it was the coolest thing.
I always double cross both sides on this quest.
I love Uthar. I chose to go full light side on my last playthrough and felt terrible about killing him… what a great character
I mean, Korriban has a Terentatek, which the game wants us TERRIFIED of, and if you go too early, can totally END your ass.
@@freshprinceoffrance754 My first time through he was hard as shit. Second time I knew to go there last, and also never spent any feat points on ranged stuff, so I was a little more OP. Still, he won't go down EASY.
I’d always put up a minefield for the two terentateks inside the tomb and finish them off if they were still alive
@@rossponding I... don't recall what I did, it was nearly twenty years ago.
terentatek is also on kashyyyk
@@SGK1206 cool. Been over twenty years since I played, so I don't recall.
That remains one of my favorite bits of dialogue from the OG. Never knew it was rare, though. All you have to do is follow the order they intended. Good video, fam.
0:42
Correction; after acquiring *four* star maps. In this case, those four being the ones on Dantooine, Manaan, Kashyyyk, and Tatooine (the latter three being in whatever order the player chooses)
I preferred to redeem Yathura Ban. if you do Korriban for your first or second Star Map fragment, you can convince her (with a high enough charisma + persuade) to return to Dantooine and the Jedi Order. You can even visit her when Dantooine is still an available destination.
This is tough to do, though. Not because it's hard in the sense that it is programmed that way, it's because of what you need to sacrifice. The only way you can get him to trust you, is if you refuse to aid Yuthura at all. And hence, you never get the key to Uthar's room. So you are unable to redeem Dustil Onasi with the datapad contained within, nor are you able to get the Sith Mask, which lets you regenerate Force points x2. So it's a double-negative trade for completionists in terms of both item collectors and quest finishers.
I'd say it's better to kill Uthar, irregardless of Light Side or Dark Side alignments, just to get the mask, and to complete Dustil's quest.
I actually sided with Yuthura & then betrayed her just ebfore the tomb & still got access to his room
@@DarkLOREDash But when I tried to do it, though, Uthar kept trying to kill me because I conspired with her. I didn't get the scene in the video above until I did as I said in the comment above. Then again, it was on the XBOX ONE version, so maybe that affected it?
I need to retry it on the original XBOX, see if it works there...
just fyi T3-M4 can unlock Uthars room. I complete the Dustil quest almost as soon as I get to the academy lol
@@ryantraver1647 Really? I never knew that he could.
@@joshua333ify yup! he's handy like that.
I HAD NO IDEA THIS CHANNEL EXISTED! I used to watch you back with Dash Star back when I was younger and I’m honestly glad your channel popped up in my recommended page 😁
I got that line actually on my first play through 🔥
my man!
Same lol wanted to save korriban 🤷
Haha same my brother 😂 was confused why it was called rare 😂 thought this was just a line most people got to use
I usually visit Korriban 3rd or 4th. I like the "if you were not blind"
Love the kotor vids
This was the path I took on my first playthrough.
I still have both of the original games with intact boxes and guidebook/manual. I never got rid of them, they're so good!
Damn…I always visited Korriban as first planet!
Me too. So much fun
@@DarkLOREDash
I always do Korriban at last.
You can tell Yuthura that you are Revan too. and Canderous's Fifth Dialogue is slightly different if you do that after Revan Reveal. He says 'you' or 'you revan' instead of 'the jedi revan'. Honestly, it feels better that way.
oh man thats so freaking awesome,i didnt even know this dialogue existed,Great video!!
Thank you! Just discovered a tonne more
@@DarkLOREDash I cant wait to see it!!
ive watched two of these videos now and i just realized ive played kotor so much i might actually have done every possible thing in it when i was a kid ;_; . we NEED ANOTHER ONE MADE.
I think killing Uthar and installing Yuthara Ban as the new Master of the Sith Academy makes much more sense from a storyline point of view as a dark side player character. Yuthara is more likely to be loyal to you in the future because you helped her gain power.
I think it's if not canon, then either quasi-canon or previously-canon that yuthura ban survives and possibly turning to the light side if you convince her.
Not sure if the lore is from kotor, kotor 2 or swtor, but I do believe I saw something in that regard somewhere.
Dude it's sith. No one is safe from each other
@@tabunga4669 : I said 'more likely' to be loyal, not '100% certain' to be loyal.
Anyway, a Sith only betrays another if he thinks he is going to be successful. If he is successful, that justifies the attempt. And if the attempt fails, then he deserves the punishment for failure (death).
@@timonsolus yeah. You can see where many sith are respectful or even worship another more powerful sith. If they feel their idol has weakened, then it is considered honorable to fight and attempt to overpower. Failure nearly always means death.
" loyal" you must not know much about the sith..
The deeper i get into my box of old games the more i love this channel
And for kashyyk, if you go after the revan reveal, the computer doesn’t question you. It just goes “oh hey, Revan! Here’s the star map.”
While there is no order to the planets, Korriban is most often saved for last. Not having Bastila generally stalled people from going there early, and Terentatek are quite violent for early game.
This isn't rare. This is an extremely common dialogue that many, many people get.
On every dark side playthrough I did it the following order: Tatooine, Manaan, Kashyyk (Leviathan cutscene) then Korriban. Why? Because each planet has its own darkside main questline from low to high with the starmap choices on their own.
For example, on Tatooine you have to kill a rare dragon to access the starmap, on Manaan you get the option to kill a planet's legend, Kashyyk forces you to have darkside choices as replies then Korriban where you are a sith. It's kinda logical.
Back to what you said about the order of planets for the star map Korriban is also the only planet bastila cant go on
I hope 2 gets a remake as well. I also hope we can see judy dench play kreia (in a movie of this)
Judy dench is dead Kreia was voiced by Sarah Kestleman
@@HighFalutinTootin no she isnt
@@troydenbrum2979 isn't Judy dench the actor that played M in 007 skyfall?? If so she passed away
@@troydenbrum2979 oh I guess she is alive my bad
I really hope they remake is really good and they keep to the original story and not try to change it! Especially since that one chick is working on the game it better not turn into a sjw nightmare!
You already know they will. Just accept it.
Don't get your hopes up. I'm prob gonna skip it. The original games are still great.
Oh they will. Bastilla is the saviour and key for winning the war and revan is side character and will get crippled
@@reiiz9942 The funny part about that is that Bastilla was already a strong and important character in the journey of the story.
@@kylewindover7931 yup and they still gonna make her the MC no matter what. Even worse, marry sue her like rey and thus, ruining her great character.
I still wonder why they choose retarded writer for this game who believe episode 8 the best star wars film ever.
The future looks grim and dark. I believe its gonna be ruined or mediocre. If that was the case, I hope there is mod community who is gonna remake the game with OG storyline using the new game engine. Doesn't even need to be perfect, just decent.
I love Uthar’s VA. He’s been in a VERY large amount of Star Wars Stuff.
"I wonder if the remake of SW: KOTOR will have Sleheyron implemented."
God, I hope so!
@@DarkLOREDashI wish they would make kotor 3
There’s also a variant if you play Uthar and Yuthura against each other.
This is one of my favorite ways to play. I love setting that up.
I love doing that and then just killing both of them lol its so ridiculously evil
I think revan is massively underrated in undressing his name in front of others...
I had the Xbox version of KOTOR 2 and i played it many times as the dark side and the light side and with the different classes. Im currently playing it on my phone and i was shocked and surprised at the amount of extra content and dialog i unlocked that i never seen or heard before. I had no idea that Hanharrr was a playable character, i completely forget about the cave in Korriban where you have to be aligned light or dark to enter. I had no idea that Atton can become a jedi. The weapons cache on Duxn that i couldn't enter because i didn't have the right explosives. How could of i missed all this playing the xbox version? So cool.
You have to find 4 first canonically he went to Dantooine, Tatooine, Kashyyk, Manaan then Korriban cause we know he kills Calo Nord on Tatooine and Darth Bandon on Manaan
Nice! Where is that written??
@@DarkLOREDash the Darth Revan novel
I have returned... Bring Academy Master Uthar to me..
I love Thomas Kane's voice so much
I am Darth Revan! Bow before me!
Chad uthar: *Ah.. I see..*
My man couldn't be any less impressed.
idk why I watched it knowing I've played everysingle line of diaologue in KOTOR atleast 3 times in this game... Even me practically being able to act our the characters in this game, doesn't deter from how amazed I am by the characters everytime i play it
Remembering things I found as a kid.
KOTOR I & II are actually two of my favorite games. In KOTOR I I’ve only gone the Path of the Jedi, played as a Sith in KOTOR II though.
They were supposed to release KOTOR III and it was going to be Real Time instead of Turn Based.
I’m still waiting for it lol. I was thinking they might be planning it because they re-mastered the originals.
Star Wars needs another RPG that’s at least as deep as KOTOR but RT instead of TB.
With what developers can do today they could make an incredible game but only if it’s not rushed & they give it a big enough budget to have enough ppl working on it so it doesn’t take a decade, but is released as a finished product, not like what so many companies have been doing the last 3-5 years releasing unfinished garbage.
Woah! Had no idea, where'd you learn those gems?
Has anyone ever told you, you sound like Carth Onasi (or rather, his VA)?
I've been told look & sound 🤣 not the worst comparison
This was probably one of the last games I believe I played before, what I'd probably call, The Giant Social Media Boom. So nothing was spoiled to me.
Man this game was so good back in the day.
Revan and bastila are my favorite star wars characters. So much better than the movie characters we presently see
he said "oo cool, you're revan."👸
Ralph Fiennes double haha
Doing Korriban early is bad because you may miss out on Carth's sidequest. Doing it late as Jedi means you may miss out on the extra Yuthura dialogue on the Jedi enclave. I always try to do it second so I can unlock everything as a Jedi, leave it for last if I go dark side
Whoa, Duncan really got around, huh?
Excellent. I love attention to detail like that.
Question. If you played Fallout 4, did you ever find military fatigues in a footlocker in your house after you wake up from the freeze? I did. Confirming our military past.
It was well known that the make character was in the military.
@@CosmicGoku529 I know. I'm just wondering if anyone else found the military fatigues in your original house like I did the first time I played or if it was just random.
I can only assume that he will envy revan whether he chooses the light or dark
I like how we all fan cast Keanu with our avatars
I played through this game probably 50 times since I got it. I figured out everything lol.
Its been a fair bit since I played the first KOTOR, but I'm pretty sure you get unique dialogue for every planet if you visit it after learning you're Revan.
I figured this out after replaying it a few times 👍👍👍
We are revan
Totally did this on my first ever playthrough, didn't think it was rare.
Hey mate I just seen something you posted on reddit a few years back. Did you ever have the chance to ask Sara Kestleman any questions?
Heya! No, unfortunately. It's a long story but I took too long & Sara decided to pull the plug. My bad
@@DarkLOREDash it's all good, I was just searching for her talking about kotor and surprisingly I've yet to find an interview where she has. Man honestly, her performance was grade A, and she was the perfect woman to play kreia.
It is funny that I came across this by accident. I didn't know this was "rare".
Revan: "Surprise, mthafkah"
Uthar: "Ok, go away tho"
What would have been cool is if you are dark side you could have had the chance of recruiting either Uthar or Yuthura as your apprentice depending on which one you let live.
I chose that dialogue on my first ever playthrough that I just completed. I chose the dark side and had a purple lightsaber and red short saber. I even fought through the hellish Hord of Sith to get Revans robes. I killed Malak after 3 tries, I gotta say this game is still a 10/10 in 2024. Im on KOTOR 2 now.
Got this my first play through
I hit Korriban first and found this dialogue. I wonder if this sequence varied between PC and XBOX. I've played both.
Master Uthar is just too nice lol.
I always do it in that order cause all the side quests pretty much line up like that
Damnit I just couldn't wait to get to Korriban...
I have actually went through this particular dialogue maybe 3 or 4 times during all the years of playing the game but I couldn’t remember what was said in the dialogue.
Is this dialogue really that rare? If it is I guess that I got really lucky on my first play through.
I don't think I'll see this dialogue myself anytime soon. That Sith Mask with a Force regen enchantment is too tempting to pick up early.
I’m planning on doing a dark side play through
if you do Korriban last and side with Uthar, does it matter whether you tell him about Yuthura's plan?
Hey, can you go through and put KOTOR SPOILER before the title on all of your videos that have spoilers in the title like this one does? I was careful to avoid spoilers going into this game, but scrolling through RUclips one day I had the plot twist spoiled for me by a video title. If I had seen that it was a KOTOR SPOILER I would have stopped reading and could have enjoyed the game much more on my first playthrough. Thanks!
Many were already aware of it's existence.
Can you get this dialogu on light side if you choose dark side options here only ?
I got this to happen my second time around by accident
My copy must have been glitched. Whenever I did Korriban last the game crashed and when I reloaded it it would give me this screen saying that I gained dark side, gained light side, net gain of dark side, net gain of light side and a lot of other stuff. It would only happen when I did Korriban as the last planet and only when I entered the final tomb for the last time. As a result I could never get this rare dialogue since I could never do Korriban last.
… then again whenever I got into a space battle the shields for the Ebon Hawk would never drain no matter how many times I was shot. 🤷🏻
When I switched from an Xbox to a 360 there were so many auto glitches that the game became unplayable and I had to get rid of it. That was a sad day
My first playthrough I chose Kashyyyk my fourth planet to visit and I didn’t need to do the computer test and the AI was like “What’s up Revan?”
This requires a player to be (A) an aspiring Sith, and (B) uninterested in going directly to the Sith homeworld, Koriban. No wonder it's a rare dialogue.
TL;DW Complete Korriban post Leviathan during a dark side run and work with Uthar after Yuthura reveals her plan to you. From there, choose the correct dialogue.
Could you put the link to this face mod?
The best route is still playing them against each other and then facerolling the two sith "masters"
i played so many times i tested everything possible i think - especially with this encounter which gives so many outcomes. i think the only thing i needed help with was the puzzle in Naga Sadows tomb - but then again i was still like 12yo back then.
First time playing this game currently n I got this dialogue a few mins ago🙏🏽🙏🏽
Aaah, always somehow found myself playing carpe diem and never gave Master Uthar the developpement he deserved. A true gentleman of the sith ahaha
This game is just so fucking good
I always left Manaan last in all my playthroughs, Best place to leave last.... its serene, calm and a final last star warsish adventure before the storm
Played the game 22 times now, and yet I have never sided with Uthar during the fight.
i do these 4 in this order because the first time I fought Calo with the wookies on Kash it was very difficult I even tried fighting Bandon on Kash even that was hard to do