But Jim, that's about 30X times the ammount of HP the famously durable pokemon Shedinja has!! This pokemon is so powerful it was banned for a long while from natdex ubers in generation 9, arguably the strongest metagame the world has seen!! This is outrageous!!!
Running Focus Punch on Blissey is so funny, it's hard to come up with a worse move to run on a Blissey in doubles, you might as well just have 3 moves. Whoever was in charge of designing these teams was weirdly obsessed with Focus Punch.
It's definitely the weirdest design choice, but even Brawly being so obsessed with it is weird. Some of those bad moves choices are because the Gym Leaders were likely stuck using their given TM as one of their moves of choice as a design decision (like with Juan being stuck with Water Pulse over Surf, for example), but Brawly actually gives the Bulk Up TM in Gen 3, so they could easily have given him more variety in his Fighting STAB moves.
Roxanne, who has The Police on her side, ends up as #1 in this very important competition. Many people say that this is big government at work, and while I'm usually not one to don the tin foil hat, I have to say that these allegations have some Sting. I hope we can still count on the journalistic integrity of Mr Cool in the future to give us an unbiased account of the current state of Hoenn.
ranking hoenn gym leaders by the number of horses they own roxanne: 2 (nosepass, first geodude but not the second) brawly: 1 (makuhita, don't forget that sumo wrestlers are raised in stables, do you know what else is raised in stables? damn right) wattson: 1 (magneton) flannery: 2 (numel and camerupt, we used to think that torkoal is a horse but recent research suggests that it is a different animal called a "turtle") norman: 1 (spinda) winona: 5, clear winner of the hoenn horsepetitve pokemon, every single team member is a certified horse tate-liza: 3 (solrock, lunatone, xatu) juan: 2 (whiscash, crawdaunt)
Some might call it a circle, others a sphere. Regardless of where you stand on this issue, Manectric has no discernible equine qualities and should not ever be considered for horse racing.
...Okay. Something I feel is needed to be called to attention: According to Bulbapedia, Surf hits all opposing Pokémon, and not your ally I realize I'm basically going "Um, AkShUaLlY" here, but I felt it needed to be called to attention here because the whole Surf hitting your ally thing wasn't until Gen 4 with Diamond and Pearl
1:55 you know I still don’t understand why slam wasn’t buffed or removed to this day. It’s unreasonably terrible with 80 power and 75 accuracy throughout every generation.
When is the Next Muk Monday? I would like to see some Silk Scarf Curse+Boom for +1 252+ Atk Silk Scarf Muk Explosion vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 315-371 (94.3 - 111%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
How dare you disrespect Flannery, the gym leader who had MAGCARGO on her team, this needs to be stopped folks, where is the horse council? We need you guys here.
Due to the third generation not containing Buzzwole, Jimothy Cool is safe from incurring the wrath of the Buzzwole Lobby and its representatives today, as there is no opportunity to slander or otherwise demean our magnificent mosquito.
6:33 I like how the background music goes full TierZoo while he discusses the validity of the given sets in the appropriate meta. ...thats the first connection my brain drew anyway
I always liked to think that Roxanne is actually one of the strongest gym leaders in terms of ability. Every gym leader holds back, so being the first in the way isn't something to hold against her. She takes her job seriously, is noted for her knowledge and intellect, and in the anime, she had some neat tactics. Bugsy from Johto is also cut from the same cloth. He loves his bugs, and knows what he's talking about to the point of being a walking encyclopedia. Conversely, Clair comes off as an unqualified nepo baby despite being the last Johto gym leader. Being just a sore loser like Whitney (who IS actually talented despite her ditzy exterior) is one thing. But then she sends you off to the Dragon's Den to take a simple ass quiz, and when you pass said quiz like any trainer worth their salt, the bimbo just blurts out that she never passed it. Even if she didn't care about the entire "power of friendship" stuff, she could have simply pretended to believe that it was the most important thing, if only because it was the common consensus. Or she could have at least shut up to not let it be known that she's such a weak and ignorant excuse of a "trainer". Oh, and one of the questions is something along the lines that "which is the most important? A) Strategy B) Training C) Cheating". Both A and B are considered acceptable answers, but what does it make Lance's idiot cousin, who failed? No prizes for guessing.
Gen3 surf sucks it's a 50bp move that only hits your opponents. Anyone who played lots of colloseum knows that. Also gen 3 double battle mechanic allows you to kill with the first move, and then the incoming target gets hit with the same move. And yes 50% today moves like rockslide deal 75 but not in gen3
I'm at Brawly's section as of writing, and Hitmontop does not get Fake Out in Gen 3. I was pretty disappointed when I found out, since it means that there's no way to get Fake Out + Intimidate in one team slot. Edit: At Juan's section now. In Gen 3, Surf only hits your opponents, however that's actually quite bad. Moves that only hit opposing Pokémon have their damage cut in half, while moves that hit everything, like Earthquake and Explosion, are at full power, as opposed to every spread move being at 75% BP in later gens. Water Pulse is still a suboptimal choice, since Waterfall and Hydro Pump are stronger, but it honestly might still be preferable to Surf, since it has slightly better BP than it in Doubles, and the confusion chance is...something, I guess.
Happy Thanksgiving 2024! Great ranking video! Flannery is my favorite Hoenn gym leader, but I believe Norman to be the best Hoenn gym leader. For the Juan one, Surf only hits the opponent's Pokemon in Generation 3.
I agree with Roxane explosion is disgusting in gen 3 doubles or mount battle style doubles. Since switch ins happen immediately boom can get multiple KOs per use.
Super fun video idea, especially after the episode of The Fridge featuring Droomish, in which you entertained the idea of high-ranked Trainers being psychopaths for such acts as "commanding Metagross to explode for an advantage". It's neat to see you apply your competitive knowledge and insights to the game world itself. Perhaps a similar follow-up video could be done with a future generation, or perhaps the Hoenn Elite Four? I think Drake would be an altruistic and honorable Trainer who fights fairly, and would not send his own Pokemon to their doom simply for a temporary upper hand in battle.
At least they feel more competitive than the Kalos gym leaders who all cap themselves at three Pokemon and seem to pick the crummiest choices imaginable.
Norman should have a Snorlax in place of the second Slacking. Instead of Spinda he should have Exploud, Ursaring, Granbull, Zangoose, Porygon2, or Miltank.
Okay, but you forgot that Flannery is built different and is going to make insane reads to outplace all other gymleaders. It is about the gymleaders and not just their teams!
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Disregard me calling Sitrus Berry OK - it's horrible actually.
Only heals 30 Flat HP in Gen 3.
But Jim, that's about 30X times the ammount of HP the famously durable pokemon Shedinja has!! This pokemon is so powerful it was banned for a long while from natdex ubers in generation 9, arguably the strongest metagame the world has seen!! This is outrageous!!!
@@InsertFunnyThingHere Oh man Sitrus Berry Shedinja must be the most dominant pokemon ever then
The best Hoen Gym leader has to be Flannery as she uses an influential member of the highly praised Horse Council.
Politically, yes
@@melvint-p9500slugma is a seahorse and naturally evolves into a land horse when it crawls out of water.
I mean, Juan is a horse himself!
she's also hot
Two in fact
Surf in Gen 3 doesn't hit your partner and does only half damage on both of the opponents, so that is not suuuper strong
Yeah, I was gonna say, lol.
you missed the vision @ 4:33. so what will happen is rapidash clicks bounce and *then* torkal clicks explosion. flannery cooked so hard with that
Running Focus Punch on Blissey is so funny, it's hard to come up with a worse move to run on a Blissey in doubles, you might as well just have 3 moves. Whoever was in charge of designing these teams was weirdly obsessed with Focus Punch.
It's definitely the weirdest design choice, but even Brawly being so obsessed with it is weird. Some of those bad moves choices are because the Gym Leaders were likely stuck using their given TM as one of their moves of choice as a design decision (like with Juan being stuck with Water Pulse over Surf, for example), but Brawly actually gives the Bulk Up TM in Gen 3, so they could easily have given him more variety in his Fighting STAB moves.
There's even a fp chansey in the battle arcade in gen 4 strangely.
Roxanne, who has The Police on her side, ends up as #1 in this very important competition. Many people say that this is big government at work, and while I'm usually not one to don the tin foil hat, I have to say that these allegations have some Sting. I hope we can still count on the journalistic integrity of Mr Cool in the future to give us an unbiased account of the current state of Hoenn.
Roooooxanne
Does she have to put on the red light?
ranking hoenn gym leaders by the number of horses they own
roxanne: 2 (nosepass, first geodude but not the second)
brawly: 1 (makuhita, don't forget that sumo wrestlers are raised in stables, do you know what else is raised in stables? damn right)
wattson: 1 (magneton)
flannery: 2 (numel and camerupt, we used to think that torkoal is a horse but recent research suggests that it is a different animal called a "turtle")
norman: 1 (spinda)
winona: 5, clear winner of the hoenn horsepetitve pokemon, every single team member is a certified horse
tate-liza: 3 (solrock, lunatone, xatu)
juan: 2 (whiscash, crawdaunt)
You are just making shit up
Excuse me but flannery actually has 3 horses
@@CoNteMpTone shut up hater 👍
@@CoNteMpTone that would be the joke
You forgot that Flannery owns Magcargo
Flannery was my childhood crush
Got to grow up
@ that’s why I said childhood I’m 22 now I had a crush on her back in like 2011 when all my friends had a DS and I only had a GBA 💀
@Jafet2002 you're not loyal
SAME
Mine was Donkey Kong Country OST
Imagine if Jimothy Cool was a gym leader.
The first horse-type gym leader
With a name like his, I'm worried that he'd be forced to be the ice-type guy.
Iron Mogulys so Steel Type.
Aggron, Metagross, Empoleon, Magne Zone, Corviknight, Excadrill, Aegialash, Heatran Archaludon
6:16 Doesn't Sitrus only restore 30HP flat in Gen 3?
You're right.
Jimothy, assuming you are the one making your thumbnails, your drawing are getting better!
Roxanne is my childhood crush
for me it was flannery, she's showin the belly, you know?
real asf
Mine was Mr. Brineys Peeko
That's an intriguing information.
@@motoyeerma3377 the what? xD
Surf actually doesn’t hit your partner Pokemon in Gen III, so Politoed wouldn’t benefit from it through Water Absorb.
Some might call it a circle, others a sphere. Regardless of where you stand on this issue, Manectric has no discernible equine qualities and should not ever be considered for horse racing.
9:48 I believe you mean "Just for Juan moment" 😄
...Okay.
Something I feel is needed to be called to attention:
According to Bulbapedia, Surf hits all opposing Pokémon, and not your ally
I realize I'm basically going "Um, AkShUaLlY" here, but I felt it needed to be called to attention here because the whole Surf hitting your ally thing wasn't until Gen 4 with Diamond and Pearl
I wish it stayed like that. It doesn’t make sense that muddy water only hits the opponents while surf hits every Pokémon.
15:50 "then you skill swap giving slacking truant"
8:29 when did people stop saying “resto chesto”. we used to be a real country
jim knew full well what he was doing with that thumbnail
1:55 you know I still don’t understand why slam wasn’t buffed or removed to this day. It’s unreasonably terrible with 80 power and 75 accuracy throughout every generation.
When is the Next Muk Monday?
I would like to see some Silk Scarf Curse+Boom for +1 252+ Atk Silk Scarf Muk Explosion vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 315-371 (94.3 - 111%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
I never even realized that you could rematch all the gym leaders in the doubles format. I know what I'm doing on my next Emerald playthrough
Of all the Hoenn gym leaders, which would be the best competitively?
This question is actually more interesting than you might think
In a first-time playthrough of Pokemon Emerald, the Gym Leaders are obviously going to be pretty weak.
Any endgame team would easily defeat them, and it wouldn't be close at all against a half-decent competitive gen 3 team.
Roxanne’s initial team is literally just Geodude and Nosepass, with such frightening options as Tackle and Rock Throw
But in the Pokemon Emerald postgame, you are able to rematch the gym leaders, and by the the fourth rematch their teams are at their most powerful.
11:28 Surf doesnt hit the partner pkmon in gen 3
Didn’t Surf only hit both opponents and NOT your allies in Gen 3?
been binging your videos this week and didn't even realize this one was only an hour old, love the channel man! thanks for the great content!! 😊
9:05 Juan, this juan
Happy Thanksgiving, Jimmy boy😎
How dare you disrespect Flannery, the gym leader who had MAGCARGO on her team, this needs to be stopped folks, where is the horse council? We need you guys here.
Spectacular start to my 6am Thanksgiving shift 🦃
Due to the third generation not containing Buzzwole, Jimothy Cool is safe from incurring the wrath of the Buzzwole Lobby and its representatives today, as there is no opportunity to slander or otherwise demean our magnificent mosquito.
Roxanne has the best doubles team... when it's all weak to Earthquake and Surf?
...you sure 'bout that?
6:33 I like how the background music goes full TierZoo while he discusses the validity of the given sets in the appropriate meta.
...thats the first connection my brain drew anyway
I always liked to think that Roxanne is actually one of the strongest gym leaders in terms of ability. Every gym leader holds back, so being the first in the way isn't something to hold against her. She takes her job seriously, is noted for her knowledge and intellect, and in the anime, she had some neat tactics.
Bugsy from Johto is also cut from the same cloth. He loves his bugs, and knows what he's talking about to the point of being a walking encyclopedia.
Conversely, Clair comes off as an unqualified nepo baby despite being the last Johto gym leader. Being just a sore loser like Whitney (who IS actually talented despite her ditzy exterior) is one thing. But then she sends you off to the Dragon's Den to take a simple ass quiz, and when you pass said quiz like any trainer worth their salt, the bimbo just blurts out that she never passed it. Even if she didn't care about the entire "power of friendship" stuff, she could have simply pretended to believe that it was the most important thing, if only because it was the common consensus. Or she could have at least shut up to not let it be known that she's such a weak and ignorant excuse of a "trainer". Oh, and one of the questions is something along the lines that "which is the most important? A) Strategy B) Training C) Cheating". Both A and B are considered acceptable answers, but what does it make Lance's idiot cousin, who failed? No prizes for guessing.
This is going to be a hit folks
Bro. I would love to see you do more game-focused stuff like this. Amazing!
12:29 Missed opportunity to say "Trocius is atropius", Jim. I will be sending a letter to the horse council post-haste.
Roxanne sweep let's goooo
Jimothy fans have been feasting lately. Thank you jim
the nerd in me cant help but point out that the emerald version also lets you see the HP # stat by pressing the select button in double battles
This is a fun video, would love to see more of this genre.
I know HGSS has gym leader rematches that you could judge in gen 4 ou.
Gen3 surf sucks it's a 50bp move that only hits your opponents. Anyone who played lots of colloseum knows that. Also gen 3 double battle mechanic allows you to kill with the first move, and then the incoming target gets hit with the same move.
And yes 50% today moves like rockslide deal 75 but not in gen3
9:06 "..and this Juan is also a little bit disappointing, this Juan could've have had such potential.."
I'm at Brawly's section as of writing, and Hitmontop does not get Fake Out in Gen 3. I was pretty disappointed when I found out, since it means that there's no way to get Fake Out + Intimidate in one team slot.
Edit: At Juan's section now. In Gen 3, Surf only hits your opponents, however that's actually quite bad. Moves that only hit opposing Pokémon have their damage cut in half, while moves that hit everything, like Earthquake and Explosion, are at full power, as opposed to every spread move being at 75% BP in later gens. Water Pulse is still a suboptimal choice, since Waterfall and Hydro Pump are stronger, but it honestly might still be preferable to Surf, since it has slightly better BP than it in Doubles, and the confusion chance is...something, I guess.
Love this video, I'd love to see an entry talking about the Gen V PWT teams
Happy Thanksgiving 2024! Great ranking video! Flannery is my favorite Hoenn gym leader, but I believe Norman to be the best Hoenn gym leader.
For the Juan one, Surf only hits the opponent's Pokemon in Generation 3.
Wallace is a gym leader in Ruby and Saphire, didn't you know Jim? I'm smart!
Hmmm.... which Hoenn gym leader would be the best competitively? hmmmm....
Finally, a great Gen 3 video. It's a Thanksgiving Miracle.
wobbuffet works for a water type gym leader. it's blue.
Thank you Jimothy
W drawing
Great video! By the way it's Gale of darkness, rather than Gales.
Someone show Jimothy the teams you can battle in Battle Revolution. Endgame gets insane.
I agree with Roxane explosion is disgusting in gen 3 doubles or mount battle style doubles. Since switch ins happen immediately boom can get multiple KOs per use.
Would be really interested to see this video concept for all the boss trainers in the BW2 PWT :)
Super fun video idea, especially after the episode of The Fridge featuring Droomish, in which you entertained the idea of high-ranked Trainers being psychopaths for such acts as "commanding Metagross to explode for an advantage". It's neat to see you apply your competitive knowledge and insights to the game world itself. Perhaps a similar follow-up video could be done with a future generation, or perhaps the Hoenn Elite Four? I think Drake would be an altruistic and honorable Trainer who fights fairly, and would not send his own Pokemon to their doom simply for a temporary upper hand in battle.
Jimothy Cool Run and Bun when?
12:35 Tropius more like Trocious
Newmel mentioned.
Geodude + Nozepass can solo gen 3 meta
How?
the jimothycool content strategy should be studied
Even if we go by the BW2 Driftveil Tournament, Flannery still sucks because Torkoal doesn't get Drought until gen 7
Did you draw this flannery Jim i need to know
Any player that uses Slam on a Pokémon needs to really think about their life choices
That Crawdaunt set from Juan is just rude. Just raw RNG fishing with the Ohko move and Double Team.
I'm sorry, is this how I find out you can rematch them?! It's been 20 years!
Im just gonna say in the adventures manga, Norman uses a skill swap spinda to get rid of Slaking’s truant.
At least they feel more competitive than the Kalos gym leaders who all cap themselves at three Pokemon and seem to pick the crummiest choices imaginable.
So next RoA spotlight you're trying to win with each of these teams right?
Norman should have a Snorlax in place of the second Slacking.
Instead of Spinda he should have Exploud, Ursaring, Granbull, Zangoose, Porygon2, or Miltank.
Surf doesn’t target your ally in gen 3, so Juan doesn’t have that option with kingdra and politoed
i can only imagine the insidious thoughts that take refuge in jim’s mind. People should steer clear of this violent villain.
I wonder how they would stack up against the gen 3 Jim Leaders
Okay, but you forgot that Flannery is built different and is going to make insane reads to outplace all other gymleaders.
It is about the gymleaders and not just their teams!
you laugh now but juans team is just a few steps away from being wolfe glick's perish trap team which he won a tournament in
Pokémon Emerald is the best Pokemon game
It’s up there with platinum and BW2.
All of these gym leaders are terrible, for none including Muk on their teams
Jim if you were a gym leader what teams would you use, maybe in each Gen
Mommy, sorry. Mommy, sorry. Mommy, sorry.
I did enjoy these rematches but, I wish FireRed had them as well to be honest.
Gale of Darkness, singular. I am sorry but it's been bothering me the past few videos and I had to come clean. Grüüdon I can live with, this I can't.
Gale from Breaking Bad ?
@@jimothycool Yes, he was the evil all along.
3:45 there's a weird audio effect like a slapping whooping sound.
Earthquake and Explosion are meant to be paired with Bounce on Rapidash no?
Winona is the Best actually she's busted if we put her in competitive!
Obviously an endgame team would defeat the first Gym leader. Thats not a fair comparison since there are over 40 levels of difference.
Thats a good observation Joseph.
Perhaps this point might even get addressed 15 seconds into the video. We might never know, folks.
@Nosue-vw5rj I bring it up because it was addressed 15 seconds in.
I'm pretty sure rapidash has bounce to protect it from the earthquakes
Sunny Day on Solrock has the purpose of weakening Water-type moves, so Surf spamming isn't as viable an option as it normally would be
That’s assuming that Solrock a) survives a surf/hydro pump and b) that the opponent is running water at all, as opposed to dark or ghost coverage.
Can you rank every water ground Pokemon competetively?
I hope Jimothy knows he's cool.
If we ever get to Galar, im curious as to Raihan
Upvote this comment if Jim should do a casual Emerald Playthrough... i would watch every day
Flannery is the best because she's pretty, i will not discuss this matter any further.
Jimothy you truly are "cool"
I have no idea why they didn't give Wattson a lanturn.
Rank the teams from Emerald Kaizo now
now rank them all by the number of horse they have
Now do the frontier leaders
for some reason i remembered wailord as being water flying
why *ISN'T* it water flying?
Wait numel is a camel, and camels are clearly horses. Yet numel is not a member of the horse council?! This is an outrage.