After gen 8 Blastoise got Shell Smash, and in National Dex it’s mega shot all the way up to Uber. It also got Terrain Pulse which depending on how you build your team can be a 150 bp Fairy/Grass/Electric/Psychic move. The revenge of Blastoise
It was doing a draft which banned shell smash specifically with mega blastoise. It was still broken just off the rapid spin speed buff. Just actually manageable.
@@BurningSilverRose I think they mean moves like Rapid Spin, Mortal Spin, Defog, and whatever else clears hazards. Imo though Muk would be better off with Poison Touch or something like Corrosion or Toxic Chain.
Part of why Mega Swampert is lower tiered in gen 6 is because when you mega evolve, you get the speed increase the following turn, instead of on the turn you mega evolve like in gen 7
@thedesireguardian2470 doesn't matter. Only the mega has swift swim, not the base form. So for hess first turn it's using his base form's speed stat with no swift swim boost whether it's raining or not.
28:17 this is the day, i learned pinsir is a bug/flying Pokémon, ty Jimothy, all this time seeing Pinsir as a pure Bug type must have been a fever dream
This is the day I learned audino lost it's fighting resistance when it mega evolved, but Gaines a ghost immunity. This would make normal audino the only mono normal type which is both vulnerable to ghost and resistant to fighting.
@@marvalice3455And Mega Venusaur should always be played with giga drain for Manaphy... (it tanks+ 3 ice beam twice with giga drain and beats Manaphy.)
@@marvalice3455 Normal audino was actually played in low tier both in BW and ORAS ! It's evolution was so disaponting, regenerator is huge and some choose to run base form Audino over its mega.
The one thing about Mega Gallade at the time is that Inner Focus didn't have Intimidate immunity at the time the mega existed, which means Mega Gallade almost effectively didn't have an ability upon mega evolving outside of sneaky fake outs.
I'm pretty sure they did that to make it a form of counter to Mega Kang. It has Fighting STAB, 10 more Speed, a boosted physical Defense and Inner Focus to punch through Fake Out.
@@cabrondemente1 you can only do one gimmic in any game after 2013 what’s y’all point y’all dunce. Gigantamax is lamer/ gay mega evolutions & gigantamax is the worst gimmic easily, z crystals are just a balanced form of gems from gen 5, & terrastalization has the Pokémon wear the lamest goofiest hat possible
1:08:23 It does not need a Mega Stone, because it has a special organ, which allows it to gain mega-energy when eating asteroids in the space. It can shatter them with the move "Dragon Ascent", which is why this move is necessary for the Mega-Evolution This is actually the official lore
Also an interesting tidbit taken from Bulbapedia: "The Japanese name of this move literally means "to paint a dragon and dot its eyes" and serves as a metaphor for the finishing touch in a piece of work that gives it "the spark of life". The idiom originated from a legend where Zhang Sengyou, a Chinese painter, completes the dragons on a mural by dotting their eyes and thus literally bringing them to life; they spring out of the temple wall and fly off. The completed dragons immediately ascended to the heavens after the work was done." Fitting with the whole being brought into reality through people's wishes thing.
@@CoNteMpTone After reconsidering, I have come to the conclusion that you are indeed correct. It seems I had been misled by the notorius villain Iron Mugulis.
Tera is the GOAT. It makes EVERY Pokemon more viable despite it looking dumb. It turns every game into a chess match. But half the fan base or more doesn't care about PVP, and even less actually take it seriously. So I understand people not liking it unless u are deep into battling like me.
@@matthewbrown8614 When In chess do I have to randomly guess if my opponents pawn will become a knight and solo my queen? Tera is bad for the reasons you just stated. Giving every pokemon a boost means weak pokemon are still just as weak as before. At lewst with megas pokemon that were avergae to bad before became better. Like beedrill, sableye, pinsir and mawile
@@jm0112 Again with this "all pokemon get it so nothing changes" mentality, it just isn't true. There is a lot of nuance to it, especially for tera. It's not a stat buff so yeah terrible pokemon remain terrible but mid to half decent pokemon can become much better when they can patch up their mid typing or slight lack of power/coverage. On the other hand good pokemon with good dual typing you'll hesitate to tera since you'll sacrifice a key set of resistances you might end up needing later, it's side grade rather then an upgrade.
Hello Jimothy. I'm not sure if you were aware, but there has been some exciting news within the SM OU metagame, where viability rankings have been updated for the first time in almost two years. The standout mover in the Mega Pokemon category is Mega Charizard X which has risen a whopping 48 places to solidify itself as the 'most viable' Mega Evolution in the metagame, which is very exciting. A lot of other shifts too, worth a read if you have the time.
I think its worth mentioning that when mega blastoise was legal it didnt have access to shell smash. Mega blastoise is Uber in national dex because blastoise gained shell smash, so if it comes back it will be much better than before.
It would probably have Shell Smash removed from its movepool if Megas were to come back, similar to how they held back on stuff like Encore and Nasty Plot while Gengar was around and multiple movepool cuts for other Pokémon (like Kingambit not getting Knock Off)
I could see it getting banned depending on the meta, its relatively fast and it’s damage would be comparable to Gen-8 Zacian. Oh and it can’t be intimidated pre-mega
Mega Lopunny will always be my favorite of the bunch. It’s the funnest to use in-game and on Showdown. The high speed and damage combo while also being able to hit Ghost types with Fighting and Normal moves is also very clutch. Can’t wait to use it again in Z-A.
Truly, we should demand Megas for Pokémon who have Mega in their name, it only makes sense. Not only that, but if their name ends with "ite", they should also have a Mega, because the Mega stone would be funny. All valid options. What I am trying to say is, we should disregard Emboar, and give Pignite a Mega, it only makes sense, a world's first.
Cool story: Back in Omega Ruby, I came across my first organic shiny in over a decade in the form of a shuppet. Of course, its just a shuppet, and Banette, whether mega or regular, is just a Banette, but I thought it was so cool that the shiny I came across had a mega evo in the game where that was relevant, and I was running an all mega pokemon team for my playthrough. Sadly, I lost that Banette for good, as I not only had sold my pokemon games years later, I stopped paying for pokemon bank, and also lost the 3DS it would have been on. I was going through a tough time in life, due to foolish decisions... It had a quiet nature, and this was before you could change natures, so despite its poor nature I WAS going to use a shiny on my team haha. So I made it a mixed attacker, with Prankster boosted support moves. This was also during the time I was the most into online single battles, on smogon and irl. Good times.
Mega Bannete is actually really fun with Swords Dance Shadow Sneak, and then Prankster Destiny Bond makes it always a guessing game on when to safely kill it and if you guess wrong it kills you anyway. Underrated mega
@@yusheitslv100Valid, but Mega Banette hits a whole lot harder and has options like prankster will-o-wisp making it more suitable for hyper offense. Mimikyu is the better option overall, but certain team structures definitely appreciate M-Banette more.
@@yusheitslv100I think Mimikyu is a more defensive version of the SD Shadow Sneak moveset. I personally like Banette because it’s high risk high reward. You lose your mega and it’s pretty easy to play around but when it works it’s so much fun. Mimikyu is better for this moveset but banette is fun.
For so long, I thought Mega Abomasnow’s ability was slush rush, so it was meant to set snow then mega when it wanted to sweep. I didn’t find out until years later that it was still snow warning and it still doesn’t make sense to me
I think it's just because losing access to a snow setter could hurt a hail team. You would need to run a backup snow setter, because Abomasnow mega can't hold an Icy Rock to extend.
45:54 Mega Lopbunny is my favorite offensive Mega Kangaskhan check. Mega Scizor felt lazy, it needed a better buff than technician ability because Life Orb Scizor was more fun. Mega Diancie was awesome, but Mega Sableye/Slowbro/Aggron/Venusaur were cancer, fat, and bulky.
Also a comment on Mega Aggron, it came before the advent of Rillaboom, which gives it much needed recovery, weakens Earthquake, and threatens Water types. That and in gen 8 Aggron got Body Press, Mega Aggron having the highest Defense in the game. Very excited to see where it and others land with 2 gens of new tools once the Megas return in Legends ZA
0:44 Iron Mugulis tried to convert Cool from a Pokemon RUclipsr to a Shin Megami Tensei RUclipsr. Scars of this remain evident to all viewers in the editing of his videos.
Really interesting that megas are so consistently valuable that even m Audino is still ranked in NU, which is relatively high with so many to poll from compared to other gimmicks and such.
1:09 I got a shiny one and loved using it in the ultra sun post game. If the weakest mega can beat a box legend we’ll only being 5 levels higher that really says how good they are.
Mega gyrados being one of your favorite visual designs is lovely. I too like the "half-blown-up balloon animal balloon with a face", or "pleasure toy" look
although probably not that consistent in actual competitive play, M-Banette's niche as the only priority Destiny Bond user is at least worth a mention imo
"One of my favorite scenarios with Mega Alakazam is trace Mega Swampert swift swim in the rain and KO them with Energy Ball". Jim - you're great, but I refuse to believe this ever actually happened.
I love the thematic design of Mega Beedrill. A super minmaxed glass cannon is exactly what you’d see in a eusocial colony where different members have different roles.
Important: It seems in this video Jimothy only ranked the megas AS THEY WERE IN GEN 6 & 7. No info about NatDex here, clearly because there's no Body Press on Aggron(THE WALL)
I think "the same, but better" is a good thing. It helps older mons stay relevant. Base form Scizor and ttar would have started dropping off hard by gen 7.
Flash Fire on Mega Houndoom goes away after it mega evolves. To confirm this load up a doubles game on showdown with Houndoom and Mind Blown Blacephalon
2:25 GAIN ghost immunity? Does he know Audino is a Normal type and not a Fairy? And it wouldn't be "lose resistance to fighting", it'd be "lose weakness to fighting".
So, I used to use Mega Ampharos back in gen 6 OU quite a bit just for the heck of it. It wasn't great, but it was better than you'd think. Agility was actually a really solid move on it. It had the bulk to use it and one use made Ampharos outspeed everything but the fastest of OU threats. I'm not going to pretend it was stellar but its certainly better than something like Steelix which just does nothing.
Not to mention how the second hit wouldn't reduce seismic toss's damage, making it a free 200 damage on anything. One of the most insane mons ever for sure.
Tfw when I'm playing soccer w/ my lil cousin and nutmeg him and all his friends laugh at him, so he gets mad and pulls out his once-per-game Megger Evolution, but it's gen 6 so his Speed hasn't increased yet, so I'm still able to juke around him and score a goal. Many such cases.
Bannete should be way higher, subverts low speed with priority shadow sneak and sucker punch, gets prio destiny bond and taunt. Is actually really highly used and is ranked OU in gen 9 national dex formats
"this is more like if swampert was a big man" "i dont think that's morally sound but that's not for me to decide" thank you for the riveting commentary this is truly the insight i return for
I love megas. My main issue is that it pretty much guarantees that 1 stage or 2 stage evolutions won't be getting any further evos...like absol, mawile or sableye
I'm curious as to which tier you based the rankings on, as I was really surprised to see Banette that low. In national dex, it has a lot more options; It has a better stab option in Poltergeist, and has a lot more prankster utility with encore, swords dance, and especially destiny bond, meaning that after it hits huge poltergeist damage, it can trade in for another mon on its way out. It's even managed to hit OU in national dex because of how much value it provides.
I feel like Mega Garchomp doesn't get enough love. I've always loved running it on national dex AG and leaning into its bulk. It can tank some crazy strong supereffective moves and counterattack, as well as running fire blast or flamethrower to get rid of defensively bulky steel types more effectively than base garchomp can thanks to its extra special attack. While speed is definitely important, it's always pretty funny to have a mon bulky enough to just face tank and then reverse oh-ko its supposed counters.
Worth noting that Mega Beedrill got better in Gen 7, where it got a fourth move slot. In Gen 7, you get to use that cracked speed stat the turn you Mega Evolve so the bee doesn't have to Protect and give your opponent a free predictable turn.
mega banette does have a niche as being a slow mon with prankster destiny bond, meaning it can always trade 1 for 1 with a fast boosted pokemon and stop yourself from getting swept
Mega altaria’s movepool and balanced stats are underrated for its ability to ‘counter’ almost any utility pokemon in the meta. It has heavy 4 ms syndrome in that case its just one move away from dealing with any other mon while losing 1 part of its own util/coverage in turn
It’s interesting to see how some Megas are just “same guy with bigger stats” while others are “let’s give this an OP ability with insane stats and complimentary typing”
Idk if I'd say Lopunny is too high, more too Low if anything, Lopunny is currently the highest ranked Mega in ORAS OU and afaik doing well for itself in Gen 9 Natdex
I think the best part about Mega-Gengar not named in the video is the move Destiny Bond. With Destiny Bond Mega-Gengar takes in the WORST case ONLY 2 mons, which is ridicolous. It comes in on something weak and kills it base 170 SpA does that, it comes in on something defensive and drops Taunt on it - done. WHATEVER comes next gets either killed by it bc it's faster and hits hard OR dies through Destiny Bond. A Pokemon so powerful that in the worst case scenario takes AT LEAST 2 pokemon with it down is insane!
Absol and Mega Absol are my favorite pokemon in the game and the reason why I got into competitive pokemon in the first place was bc of Absol’s majestic mega design
mega slowbro is just such a good calm mind set up pokemon. with massive defense and immunity to crits it just wont die from attacks after a few calm minds. i even ran rest talk just to get around status
Missed the really cool thing mega banette can do where it's the only mon in the game to have both prankster and destiny bond. This gives it a niche on hyper offense where it (nearly) guarantees at least a trade in most scenarios
mega-banette's main niche is prankster destiny bond... destiny bond effect is only lost when you next attack, so +1 priority for DB then slow followup (pretty meaty given stats) attack on the following turn means your opponent usually don't have a better option than to trade something. This makes it a pretty consistent get-out-of-jail-free card. Obviously that's not *great*, but it's worth at least mentioning.
I got complicated feelings about Mega Evos, I love the concept, but I think they executed it poorly distributing it to a lot of Pokemon which didnt needed one in first place. Hence Im always happy to see Pokemon like Beedrill getting one. I yearn for a Mega Mothim honestly.
Hot take (but I did play quite a lot of Gen 7 Ubers back in the day and hit top 100 a few times), I think Mega Mewtwo X was criminally underrated in the tier and better than Mewtwo Y. Just play around with the standard set calcs against common metagame pokemon. Low Kick 2HKOs most of the tier and the coverage is insane. Being able to OHKO Ho-Oh in that metagame is truly insane
It's so odd why we decided to do this based on gen 6 OU and not Gen 7 (the latest generation where megas were officially available) or National Dex (with the latest updated movepools). You wouldn't be taking into account the Pixelate nerf for Mega Altaria for example, which made it fall out of OU entirely in gen 7. In the viabiliy rankings for gen 7 OU, Altaria is even below Mega Aggron and Aerodactyl. If we are going to Nax Dex, Mega Blastoise should be on par with Mega Blaziken or Lucario.
Something that really frustrates me about Gen 8 removing Megas is that a lot of mons got buffs that would've been AMAZING if they still had access to their megas (Close Combat U-turn Mega Lopunny please come back)
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Oh wow, it’s actually unironically a good design. No one would make fun of me for wearing it, I’m buying it.
You missed the chance to call Mega Scizor "Iron Bugulis"
Future evolved Paradox version of Genesect
😂
@@reun1clus damn, even more futuristic than genesect? Interstellar levels of futuristic? Sign me the fuck up
After gen 8 Blastoise got Shell Smash, and in National Dex it’s mega shot all the way up to Uber. It also got Terrain Pulse which depending on how you build your team can be a 150 bp Fairy/Grass/Electric/Psychic move. The revenge of Blastoise
195 in the case of grass, electric, and psychic
Unfortunately, that's in NatDex, not standard, but still a worthy point.
It was doing a draft which banned shell smash specifically with mega blastoise.
It was still broken just off the rapid spin speed buff. Just actually manageable.
@@yusheitslv100Legends Z is gonna change that
I thought it was kinda strange how they made Light that Burns the Sky into a pulse move and a regular move for blastoise, sucks that he's UU in gen9
Muk would have the ability good as sludge, making him immune to all cleaning moves.
And sweepers
He would also get bonus damage on mondays 😊
So, Tidy up? And that's it?
@@BurningSilverRose I think they mean moves like Rapid Spin, Mortal Spin, Defog, and whatever else clears hazards. Imo though Muk would be better off with Poison Touch or something like Corrosion or Toxic Chain.
Finally, some counterplay to Tidy Up
I can't believe you leaked the Mega Magcargo design from Legends ZA, where it becomes a horse
Part of why Mega Swampert is lower tiered in gen 6 is because when you mega evolve, you get the speed increase the following turn, instead of on the turn you mega evolve like in gen 7
Also because you’d have to run politoed for rain since pelipper didn’t have it yet
@@diegoperalta6643 i mean jimothy said this in the video no?
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This is referring to swift swim? Or just base speed?
@thedesireguardian2470 doesn't matter. Only the mega has swift swim, not the base form. So for hess first turn it's using his base form's speed stat with no swift swim boost whether it's raining or not.
Can't believe Mega Ampharos and Mega Audino were so fabulous they became the tied number 1 spot, Bravo Jim!!!
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28:17 this is the day, i learned pinsir is a bug/flying Pokémon, ty Jimothy, all this time seeing Pinsir as a pure Bug type must have been a fever dream
This is the day I learned audino lost it's fighting resistance when it mega evolved, but Gaines a ghost immunity.
This would make normal audino the only mono normal type which is both vulnerable to ghost and resistant to fighting.
@@marvalice3455 I think he started competitive mon with gen 8 ...
@@marvalice3455And Mega Venusaur should always be played with giga drain for Manaphy... (it tanks+ 3 ice beam twice with giga drain and beats Manaphy.)
@mehdidelteil3672 no, this is a reasonable mistake. Because nobody would ever use normal audino in competitive. I just thought the mistake was funny
@@marvalice3455 Normal audino was actually played in low tier both in BW and ORAS ! It's evolution was so disaponting, regenerator is huge and some choose to run base form Audino over its mega.
Mega muk is the antithesis of mega Garfield. One day they will have a truly spectacular showdown
The ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny
Not even a contest, Garfield gains Fur Coat upon Mega-evolving.
Muk is already mega
But riddle me this...what is muk spelled backwards?
Girafarig
The one thing about Mega Gallade at the time is that Inner Focus didn't have Intimidate immunity at the time the mega existed, which means Mega Gallade almost effectively didn't have an ability upon mega evolving outside of sneaky fake outs.
I'm pretty sure they did that to make it a form of counter to Mega Kang. It has Fighting STAB, 10 more Speed, a boosted physical Defense and Inner Focus to punch through Fake Out.
Mega evolution is the most beloved generational mechanic in the series
Mega forms are available to specific pokemon
And you can only mega evolve once per game
To do so you need to hold a special mega stone.
@@cabrondemente1 you can only do one gimmic in any game after 2013 what’s y’all point y’all dunce. Gigantamax is lamer/ gay mega evolutions & gigantamax is the worst gimmic easily, z crystals are just a balanced form of gems from gen 5, & terrastalization has the Pokémon wear the lamest goofiest hat possible
But that cost is well worth it
1:08:23 It does not need a Mega Stone, because it has a special organ, which allows it to gain mega-energy when eating asteroids in the space. It can shatter them with the move "Dragon Ascent", which is why this move is necessary for the Mega-Evolution
This is actually the official lore
we all know what organ that is
a church organ
@@RRRR-jr1gpgreat pun😆
Also an interesting tidbit taken from Bulbapedia:
"The Japanese name of this move literally means "to paint a dragon and dot its eyes" and serves as a metaphor for the finishing touch in a piece of work that gives it "the spark of life". The idiom originated from a legend where Zhang Sengyou, a Chinese painter, completes the dragons on a mural by dotting their eyes and thus literally bringing them to life; they spring out of the temple wall and fly off. The completed dragons immediately ascended to the heavens after the work was done."
Fitting with the whole being brought into reality through people's wishes thing.
Mega Sharpedo getting Strong Jaw boosted Fischeous Rend would both make sense and absolutely break it and send it straight to Ubers.
I could see them doing this, it would be balanced in vgc
Pidgeot is missing 1 thing only: Focus Blast.
Ironic that it is still missing something with No Guard as an ability.
Focus Blast on a No Guard pokemon sounds very alien...
I suppose that makes Machamp an alien Pokemon?
rather give it sing and get it sent to ubers lol
still would not counter chansey, and already has heat wave for steel types.
Base form Pinsir is not a flying type, even though some cool Poketubers have been known to claim otherwise. This is insane.
It is, in fact, a mono flying type.
@@CoNteMpTone After reconsidering, I have come to the conclusion that you are indeed correct. It seems I had been misled by the notorius villain Iron Mugulis.
@@christianloder8127 that is insane
Mega Evolution is the ONLY beloved generational mechanic in the series
Naw, I prefer Terastallizing myself.
The type change plus third STAB of choice is just too good to pass.
Tera is the GOAT. It makes EVERY Pokemon more viable despite it looking dumb. It turns every game into a chess match. But half the fan base or more doesn't care about PVP, and even less actually take it seriously. So I understand people not liking it unless u are deep into battling like me.
@@matthewbrown8614 When In chess do I have to randomly guess if my opponents pawn will become a knight and solo my queen? Tera is bad for the reasons you just stated. Giving every pokemon a boost means weak pokemon are still just as weak as before. At lewst with megas pokemon that were avergae to bad before became better. Like beedrill, sableye, pinsir and mawile
Mega evolution was a great idea for starters and terrible pokemon. But legendary and psudolegends makes no sense.
@@jm0112 Again with this "all pokemon get it so nothing changes" mentality, it just isn't true. There is a lot of nuance to it, especially for tera.
It's not a stat buff so yeah terrible pokemon remain terrible but mid to half decent pokemon can become much better when they can patch up their mid typing or slight lack of power/coverage.
On the other hand good pokemon with good dual typing you'll hesitate to tera since you'll sacrifice a key set of resistances you might end up needing later, it's side grade rather then an upgrade.
Hello Jimothy. I'm not sure if you were aware, but there has been some exciting news within the SM OU metagame, where viability rankings have been updated for the first time in almost two years. The standout mover in the Mega Pokemon category is Mega Charizard X which has risen a whopping 48 places to solidify itself as the 'most viable' Mega Evolution in the metagame, which is very exciting. A lot of other shifts too, worth a read if you have the time.
I think its worth mentioning that when mega blastoise was legal it didnt have access to shell smash. Mega blastoise is Uber in national dex because blastoise gained shell smash, so if it comes back it will be much better than before.
It would probably have Shell Smash removed from its movepool if Megas were to come back, similar to how they held back on stuff like Encore and Nasty Plot while Gengar was around and multiple movepool cuts for other Pokémon (like Kingambit not getting Knock Off)
Hopefully if Megas come back in a mainline game, Mega Gallade gets Sharpness like its base form did in Gen 9. May actually be pretty good then
I could see it getting banned depending on the meta, its relatively fast and it’s damage would be comparable to Gen-8 Zacian. Oh and it can’t be intimidated pre-mega
I don't think Game Freak is changing the abilties of already existing megas
Mega Lopunny will always be my favorite of the bunch. It’s the funnest to use in-game and on Showdown. The high speed and damage combo while also being able to hit Ghost types with Fighting and Normal moves is also very clutch. Can’t wait to use it again in Z-A.
Legends za give us yanmega getting one to get megayanmega
Also MegaMeganium
Nahhh... i want mega dragonite holding its dragoniteite
Truly, we should demand Megas for Pokémon who have Mega in their name, it only makes sense.
Not only that, but if their name ends with "ite", they should also have a Mega, because the Mega stone would be funny.
All valid options.
What I am trying to say is, we should disregard Emboar, and give Pignite a Mega, it only makes sense, a world's first.
Yammega is called „Mega Yanma” in Japanese, Mega Yanmega would be known to them as
„Mega Mega Yanma”
Nah they’ll give us our first mega devolution
Nium
Cool story: Back in Omega Ruby, I came across my first organic shiny in over a decade in the form of a shuppet. Of course, its just a shuppet, and Banette, whether mega or regular, is just a Banette, but I thought it was so cool that the shiny I came across had a mega evo in the game where that was relevant, and I was running an all mega pokemon team for my playthrough. Sadly, I lost that Banette for good, as I not only had sold my pokemon games years later, I stopped paying for pokemon bank, and also lost the 3DS it would have been on. I was going through a tough time in life, due to foolish decisions...
It had a quiet nature, and this was before you could change natures, so despite its poor nature I WAS going to use a shiny on my team haha. So I made it a mixed attacker, with Prankster boosted support moves. This was also during the time I was the most into online single battles, on smogon and irl. Good times.
Damn bro, I played since gen 1 and all I got was a shiny Geodude 😭😂
Mega Bannete is actually really fun with Swords Dance Shadow Sneak, and then Prankster Destiny Bond makes it always a guessing game on when to safely kill it and if you guess wrong it kills you anyway. Underrated mega
Not underrated at all. If you play gen 9 nat dex that thing is spammed to holy hell. Every team has one
No disrespect, but I'd rather use mimikyu for that
@@yusheitslv100Valid, but Mega Banette hits a whole lot harder and has options like prankster will-o-wisp making it more suitable for hyper offense. Mimikyu is the better option overall, but certain team structures definitely appreciate M-Banette more.
@@yusheitslv100I think Mimikyu is a more defensive version of the SD Shadow Sneak moveset. I personally like Banette because it’s high risk high reward. You lose your mega and it’s pretty easy to play around but when it works it’s so much fun. Mimikyu is better for this moveset but banette is fun.
Not to be weird, but your videos are calming af. I put on the videos before bedtime. My insomnia thanks you.
Jim is seriously on a roll lately. Btw Mega Horsea is my favorite mega pokemon.
Eagerly awaiting for the lengthy primal reversion ranking. Thank you
0:52 mega muk resists physical? This is insane
Kinda screwed up that Muknite looks like a bug and wriggles occasionally. Let alone the creepy devilish child gives it to you
and can shapeshift into an old man, how eerie
It’s pretty easy to beat, just use buffs
Really hope they do some justice to Kakuna and give him a mega form. He’ll probably be a common Pokémon in Ubers after that.
Mega kakuna would be a good rival to primal cascoon
For so long, I thought Mega Abomasnow’s ability was slush rush, so it was meant to set snow then mega when it wanted to sweep. I didn’t find out until years later that it was still snow warning and it still doesn’t make sense to me
I think it's just because losing access to a snow setter could hurt a hail team. You would need to run a backup snow setter, because Abomasnow mega can't hold an Icy Rock to extend.
@ I don’t think they thought about it that much
@@wyattnance3756yeah i was about to say the same. I doubt they are thinking of anything much when designing anything xD
They did that in radical red
That would be so much cooler. Really feels like the Mega was an afterthought.
45:54 Mega Lopbunny is my favorite offensive Mega Kangaskhan check. Mega Scizor felt lazy, it needed a better buff than technician ability because Life Orb Scizor was more fun.
Mega Diancie was awesome, but Mega Sableye/Slowbro/Aggron/Venusaur were cancer, fat, and bulky.
Also a comment on Mega Aggron, it came before the advent of Rillaboom, which gives it much needed recovery, weakens Earthquake, and threatens Water types. That and in gen 8 Aggron got Body Press, Mega Aggron having the highest Defense in the game. Very excited to see where it and others land with 2 gens of new tools once the Megas return in Legends ZA
In gen 9 Camerupt would've had 130 speed and 10 attack
0:44 Iron Mugulis tried to convert Cool from a Pokemon RUclipsr to a Shin Megami Tensei RUclipsr. Scars of this remain evident to all viewers in the editing of his videos.
Imagine if there was a Mega Jimothy Cool.
Mega iron mugulis would be the bane of this world. Absolutely insane.
iron jimmy
Really interesting that megas are so consistently valuable that even m Audino is still ranked in NU, which is relatively high with so many to poll from compared to other gimmicks and such.
"I'm a little bit frightened" Says Jim in a monotone voice
1:09 I got a shiny one and loved using it in the ultra sun post game. If the weakest mega can beat a box legend we’ll only being 5 levels higher that really says how good they are.
Audino is mid!
As a pure hackmons player, seeing mega audino at the bottom feels weird
I cant believe jim forgot about meganium and yanmega, what a shame, id love to see where they rank
Mega Banette + Assist, Shadow Sneak, with something in the back that has dive can be a cool way to troll legendary spammers in ag
I’m such a fan of mega Mawile, everything in its kit makes me happy and I hope it comes back
Mega gyrados being one of your favorite visual designs is lovely. I too like the "half-blown-up balloon animal balloon with a face", or "pleasure toy" look
Now that you mention it, mega glalie's stats are almost the exact same as regular salamance's stats but with less attack and hp
Big L from Jimmy for missing the "Iron Bugulis" opportunity with Scizor
Videos been out for 45 minutes and i've watched it rewirtten the script and have mastered pokemon now thank you.
16:22 THE WALL
So many megas get spikes because Spikes are a staple of the OU metagame.
although probably not that consistent in actual competitive play, M-Banette's niche as the only priority Destiny Bond user is at least worth a mention imo
Babe wake up another Long form jimothy video dropped
"One of my favorite scenarios with Mega Alakazam is trace Mega Swampert swift swim in the rain and KO them with Energy Ball". Jim - you're great, but I refuse to believe this ever actually happened.
One Mega long video. Gotta bring my snacks for this one
People: Mega Muk isn't real, it can't hurt you.
Mega Muk:
It’s a bit regrettable that you didn’t mention Mega Banette’s renaissance in gen 9 national dex due to it now learning Encore
I love the thematic design of Mega Beedrill. A super minmaxed glass cannon is exactly what you’d see in a eusocial colony where different members have different roles.
That thumbnail is amazing, Sableye just holding up a mirror for his fam Ampharos to see how fabulous it looks after Mega Evolving
Important: It seems in this video Jimothy only ranked the megas AS THEY WERE IN GEN 6 & 7. No info about NatDex here, clearly because there's no Body Press on Aggron(THE WALL)
I think "the same, but better" is a good thing. It helps older mons stay relevant. Base form Scizor and ttar would have started dropping off hard by gen 7.
Flash Fire on Mega Houndoom goes away after it mega evolves. To confirm this load up a doubles game on showdown with Houndoom and Mind Blown Blacephalon
Jim mega banette is way too low u forgot bout d bond which is 90% of the time lethal due to prankster+low speed the next turn.
I think Sand Rush on Mega Garchomp would have been a much better ability than Sand Force, and wouldn't be unreasonable at all.
Imma dig into this 1 hour video and I'm going to enjoy it.
Mega Audino is so cute, I really wish it had anything to offer
2:25 GAIN ghost immunity? Does he know Audino is a Normal type and not a Fairy? And it wouldn't be "lose resistance to fighting", it'd be "lose weakness to fighting".
The opposite mistake was made with mega pinsir " same type as base form" when it gains flying typing. 28:21
So, I used to use Mega Ampharos back in gen 6 OU quite a bit just for the heck of it.
It wasn't great, but it was better than you'd think. Agility was actually a really solid move on it. It had the bulk to use it and one use made Ampharos outspeed everything but the fastest of OU threats.
I'm not going to pretend it was stellar but its certainly better than something like Steelix which just does nothing.
Ampharos is the best
parental bond power up punch was some HEINOUS stuff from gamefreak, cant even believe they let that exist lmao
Not to mention how the second hit wouldn't reduce seismic toss's damage, making it a free 200 damage on anything.
One of the most insane mons ever for sure.
Mega Lopunny was a menace in 1v1, as you can use Fake Out then Last Resort
Tfw when I'm playing soccer w/ my lil cousin and nutmeg him and all his friends laugh at him, so he gets mad and pulls out his once-per-game Megger Evolution, but it's gen 6 so his Speed hasn't increased yet, so I'm still able to juke around him and score a goal. Many such cases.
Bannete should be way higher, subverts low speed with priority shadow sneak and sucker punch, gets prio destiny bond and taunt. Is actually really highly used and is ranked OU in gen 9 national dex formats
"this is more like if swampert was a big man" "i dont think that's morally sound but that's not for me to decide" thank you for the riveting commentary this is truly the insight i return for
so far down Beedrill? the honeycomb will take action to address this offense.
Commenting this before we get Mega Toxapex in Gen 10 🥳
I love megas. My main issue is that it pretty much guarantees that 1 stage or 2 stage evolutions won't be getting any further evos...like absol, mawile or sableye
Not that bad, just means they'll get regionals, and hey nothing suggests that they can't get regional evolutions allow with them. Look at slowbro.
@ I hope so. I’ve always wanted some of those pokes to get new evos
@@dawntodusk8903 yeah hopefully mons like Medicham, mawile, sableye and Banette get regional evos
Duraludon exists. Yeah pikachu, meowth and eevee also exist but those are because they are extremely populair
I'm curious as to which tier you based the rankings on, as I was really surprised to see Banette that low. In national dex, it has a lot more options; It has a better stab option in Poltergeist, and has a lot more prankster utility with encore, swords dance, and especially destiny bond, meaning that after it hits huge poltergeist damage, it can trade in for another mon on its way out. It's even managed to hit OU in national dex because of how much value it provides.
I feel like Mega Garchomp doesn't get enough love. I've always loved running it on national dex AG and leaning into its bulk. It can tank some crazy strong supereffective moves and counterattack, as well as running fire blast or flamethrower to get rid of defensively bulky steel types more effectively than base garchomp can thanks to its extra special attack. While speed is definitely important, it's always pretty funny to have a mon bulky enough to just face tank and then reverse oh-ko its supposed counters.
Worth noting that Mega Beedrill got better in Gen 7, where it got a fourth move slot. In Gen 7, you get to use that cracked speed stat the turn you Mega Evolve so the bee doesn't have to Protect and give your opponent a free predictable turn.
mega banette does have a niche as being a slow mon with prankster destiny bond, meaning it can always trade 1 for 1 with a fast boosted pokemon and stop yourself from getting swept
Mega altaria’s movepool and balanced stats are underrated for its ability to ‘counter’ almost any utility pokemon in the meta. It has heavy 4 ms syndrome in that case its just one move away from dealing with any other mon while losing 1 part of its own util/coverage in turn
It’s interesting to see how some Megas are just “same guy with bigger stats” while others are “let’s give this an OP ability with insane stats and complimentary typing”
Idk if I'd say Lopunny is too high, more too Low if anything, Lopunny is currently the highest ranked Mega in ORAS OU and afaik doing well for itself in Gen 9 Natdex
My theory is that mega-garchomp was given those stats specifically by GF to make it not more overwhelming because, at the time, Chomp was a monster
I think the best part about Mega-Gengar not named in the video is the move Destiny Bond. With Destiny Bond Mega-Gengar takes in the WORST case ONLY 2 mons, which is ridicolous. It comes in on something weak and kills it base 170 SpA does that, it comes in on something defensive and drops Taunt on it - done. WHATEVER comes next gets either killed by it bc it's faster and hits hard OR dies through Destiny Bond. A Pokemon so powerful that in the worst case scenario takes AT LEAST 2 pokemon with it down is insane!
Absol and Mega Absol are my favorite pokemon in the game and the reason why I got into competitive pokemon in the first place was bc of Absol’s majestic mega design
mega slowbro is just such a good calm mind set up pokemon. with massive defense and immunity to crits it just wont die from attacks after a few calm minds. i even ran rest talk just to get around status
Missed the really cool thing mega banette can do where it's the only mon in the game to have both prankster and destiny bond. This gives it a niche on hyper offense where it (nearly) guarantees at least a trade in most scenarios
you forgot the GOAT, mr. MEGA NIUM. Ubers-like mon, fr
I applaud you for your morally superior music choices.
mega-banette's main niche is prankster destiny bond... destiny bond effect is only lost when you next attack, so +1 priority for DB then slow followup (pretty meaty given stats) attack on the following turn means your opponent usually don't have a better option than to trade something. This makes it a pretty consistent get-out-of-jail-free card. Obviously that's not *great*, but it's worth at least mentioning.
I miss Megas, they were perfect. Dynamax and shit can get the fudge out
Folks. Scizor's new Bug/Electric Mega Evolution, Iron Bugulis, is taking OU by storm. This is insane.
Mega Camerupt with a good typing would be kinda nuts. Imagine that stat spread with the defensive profile of Kingdra.
I got complicated feelings about Mega Evos, I love the concept, but I think they executed it poorly distributing it to a lot of Pokemon which didnt needed one in first place.
Hence Im always happy to see Pokemon like Beedrill getting one.
I yearn for a Mega Mothim honestly.
Mega Blastoise got a lot better when it got Shell Smash. It's only playable in the National Dex format but it was good enough to get itself banned. :)
Let’s be honest folks; we aren’t ready for Mega Muk. We as a species cannot handle the majesty of Mega Muk.
Damn I had no idea at least half of these megas existed, this video is interesting for that alone
Hot take (but I did play quite a lot of Gen 7 Ubers back in the day and hit top 100 a few times), I think Mega Mewtwo X was criminally underrated in the tier and better than Mewtwo Y. Just play around with the standard set calcs against common metagame pokemon. Low Kick 2HKOs most of the tier and the coverage is insane. Being able to OHKO Ho-Oh in that metagame is truly insane
Another thing about Mega Lucario is you have to guess if its running a special nasty plot set
i imagine Mega Muk's I Love Mondays ability combines the effects of Huge Power, Serene Grace, all the Ruin abilities and more but only on Mondays
It's so odd why we decided to do this based on gen 6 OU and not Gen 7 (the latest generation where megas were officially available) or National Dex (with the latest updated movepools).
You wouldn't be taking into account the Pixelate nerf for Mega Altaria for example, which made it fall out of OU entirely in gen 7. In the viabiliy rankings for gen 7 OU, Altaria is even below Mega Aggron and Aerodactyl. If we are going to Nax Dex, Mega Blastoise should be on par with Mega Blaziken or Lucario.
Something that really frustrates me about Gen 8 removing Megas is that a lot of mons got buffs that would've been AMAZING if they still had access to their megas (Close Combat U-turn Mega Lopunny please come back)
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