How To Wire A Simple Fardriver Kit For Your Electric Bike! Throttle, VoltMeter, 3Speed, & KeySwitch!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- email lvchao@far-driver.com to get yourself a fardriver! i personally used a 72450, but if you're worried about space, grab a 72300 s12. they can also add a dkd display for an extra charge!
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Shoutout to EMX Brandon. He's very knowledgeable on running a far driver set up and tuning. He hooked it up!
Appreciate you brother! Glad I could help!
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Great info man! Glad to see some people taking time to share this kind of knowledge to the e-moto community.
Thank you bro! I love what i do, its super rewarding putting stuff like this together and love sharing that experience with others!
Thanks for making these! Just ordered a far driver for my wired cruiser ebike. Will need these videos for reference!
Glad i could help! You got this!
Chat GPT said this mite be BS 🙊took some coaxing
"So, while the input current (line current) might be limited by the power source, the controller can still increase the voltage to provide the motor with the necessary power for its operation. This is why you might see a situation where the phase current rating (which is related to the motor performance) is higher than the line current rating (which is related to the overall power input)"
Yeah thats how it was explained to me aswell, the controller will convert the voltage from the battery to get the phase amps it needs depending on the load.
thanks for making this video i wonder if you can also use pedal assist in combination with hand throttle
I'm not sure, e-bike guy on youtube might be the guy to ask!
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Great Info like everyone else says man! Im planning on ordering the bomb moto in a few days and was planning on ordering a controller kit from lonestar but after this I'm not 100% sure. What I'm mostly wondering is how these dkd displays mount up to the bike? I haven't seen one on the bike yet so I am just curious
If you do order a kit check out the link for Midwest mini mods in the description its the samr kit but 100 bucks less and ill have that dkd wiring vide up around next week so you can always add that in later! I actually fabbed a dkd mount for my mototec awhile back, but one of my buddys who has a printing business just hit me up with a bar mount design for the dkd. Once i get that in ill send you guys his way! Your gonna move the b1 btw!
Thanks for the vid! I have the same Midwest moto kit you linked to- installed it all, but the motor runs in reverse! I swapped the yellow and green phase wires and also swapped the blue and yellow Hall wires and it still runs in reverse… should I try the ap?
Yes! Download the app and under the first section of parameters choose motor direction and change it to 0 or 1, whatever it isnt already at. Be sure to swap your hall and ohase wires back to normal!
@@EmxBrandon swapped the wires back around to how they came/matching color coding, and in both motor directions, it’s still running in reverse… I can hear the controller beeping as I save the updated parameter too.
@@EmxBrandon ah it’s now to forward!!! I just repeated the process a few more times and eventually it worked. Whew! Time to strap down that battery and controller and get out for an after dinner rip tonight with kiddo! Thanks!!
Have you ran the autolearn when you first hooked it up? You may need to re do the auto learn and try motor direction again.
@JeffKendallWeed nice! Sometimes the parameters are a pain and dont stick and you gotta shut the bike off, force close the app and try again lol
If i am running dual motors,( and dual controller obv) Can i just split the ends of the three speed switch and plug into both controllers?
Yeah I don't see why not!
Great info sir. Please make tutorial on how to connect panel board monitor to fardrive controller nd72360. Ride safe . 🙏
Do you mean the dkd display? And thank you!
Yes sir. Ride safe. from Philippines
Yea still seems kinda strange. Feels like a controller with a big spread between line and phase would be the best way to get power to your bike. Cheaper than getting the ultimate battery which is what i planned to do. still kinda confused but thanks for the help.
i cant reply to your comments so had to make new ones
No worries on the comments. But yeah the main number you wanna focus on is line amps. Make sure you have a battery capable of continuous amps that match the controller with some over head if fitment allows. Depending on the motor your using you may not be able to run the full phase amps of the controller anyways. For instance i have a fardriver 72450 which is 200 line and 450 phase and my motor can handle 220 phase before it starts getting too hot and losing power.
@@EmxBrandonhi brandon i have an nd72300 looking to get a battery from another the nd72300 is 100a cont and 300a peak phase just wondering would a 72v 28ah 170a continuous and 245amp peak phase be ok? if not what battery specs would be ok?
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Why can't I connect inside the FarDriver app on COMM tab ? No ones bound to it, the module isn't communicating with the controller. But does communicate with both IPhone 12 and Samsung Galaxy, I've even tried connecting my PC using the PC software.
BLE CONNECTED, CONTROLLER CONNECTING. . . . . .
and doesn't allow you to click on it to bind
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Hmm I'm not sure, I've never had to remote unbind. But there's definitely a way to do it, just gotta keep messing with it!
@@EmxBrandon come to find out, the guy who was employed to build this bike NEVER bound to it, we've tried multiple types of phones, Including iPhone 12 and Android, on the updated FarDriver app, got APK file from FarDriver themselves, we've identified that the Bluetooth module is communicating with the phones, in all cases, when opening the app, and scroll over to the COMM, we can see the dongle appearing as YaunQs.. we can click on it, nothing happens, above that it reads:
*BLE CONNECTED, Controller Connecting. . . . *
And we can't click on it to bind.
So, the ble module seems to be communicating with our phones, but not the controller, I have new BLE module coming today in the mail. If this doesn't work, perhaps RXD & TXD pins in the factory harness isn't right I hear they sometimes have them switched. I'll check pins in the BLE connector tonight, to confirm all 4 pins reading 533ov and if that's all good then it's the controller itself.. idk what else to try
Thanks for the great video.
Is there a way to connect a variable regen switch to a fardriver?
You can hook up high or low brake to a switch or lever and turn on the follow parameter, idk about variable though.
@EmxBrandon if it's possible to hookup variable regen . You'll learn how to connect it and show everyone else how it's done.
What kind of FarDriver Controller should I use with a 3000W hub motor? What’s the ND part number?
Depends on how much power it can truly handle. I'd say a nd72300 if you wanna keep it tame at 3-5kw. If you want to sort of future proof for more power I'd grab atleast a 72450.
Please make a tutorial on how to tune/program this kind of controllers.
I do have a basic tuning video up already!
hey i just ordered the lonestar kit is it like a plug and play like electro and co or is it like this because if its like this in the video, your video is helpful as hell
Should be completely plug and play, but normally his don't come tuned.
@@EmxBrandon awesome im a total beginner and the whole cutting and rerouting wires was freaking me out. im much more confident in tuning than i am with wires. again thanks so much for the info.
@harrybrown8198 hell yeah no prob! What bike are you throwing it in?
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Hey Brandon. Just going over the part in the video for the switched wire and the pigtail added for the volt meter. Does the DC to DC converter also connect to this switched wire?
The reducer i have in thr video is a 5 wire and the one little red wire is a switch wire to turn on the reducer, so yes 100% i would run alteast that small red off reducer into the keyed switch wire! Then of course the other 4 are 2 for 72v input power and ground and 2 for 12v output power and ground. You can also do this with a 3 wire but youd be running all your 48/72v load from the reducer through your key switch along with powering the controller. But that shouldnt be an issue as usually those 3 wire only do 15amps at 12v on the high end
@@EmxBrandon perfect! I'm looking at getting the pro chaser reducer and was wondering about the 5th smaller red wire. I want the reducer to turn off when I switch the key to the off position. Also, after adding all the accessories, what do you do with all the ground wires? Connect them all to an unused ground on the controller? Thanks for your help
@johnny_digital7175 for sure yeah if you use the 5 wire one it will be keyed like i said, or run the 3 wire the same way through the key switch and youll be dialed! All the grounds i usually make a connector that loops all the grounds straight back to the reducers black or you can solder them all to one wire and connector it to controller ground.
Couldnt you just run 72v led headlight/tail lights without the reducer?
Absolutely, it's just harder to find stuff that runs on 72v compared to the huge selection of 12v stuff.
When I plugged in battery after wiring the bike it turned on without me using the key switch is that normal
Your orange ignition wire is connected directly to battery positive somehow. Are you sure it's the controller that's on or is a a voltmeter keyswitch combo and the voltage is reading with the key off?
Also I’m waiting on that new video I’m
New to fardriver completely and I’d love some advice on tuning it for optimal performance
Soon! I gotta get a test and tune day and ill be sure to get a video out asap
Heck ya man good deal and thank u you da man
hi.i have a nd7220 but i decided to change it with 72260.i just bought it and set it up.i tried about 5 kms and comeback.İ turned of ignition and after turn it on.But now nd72260 cant run.İts in fault and how can i fix it?,its dont turn on
Check the graph page, what's the fault code? Is it beeping a sequence?
@EmxBrandon Yes I saw that video. thanks for the info.
im tying to understand the diffrence between line current and phase current in the controller.
I assumed line current is power from the battery and phase current is whats sent to the motor, but this controller has a higher rated phase current compaed to its line. so what am i missing, can you help?
That question is way above my pay grade 😆 but yes line current is whats pulled from the battery and converted to phase amps to the 3 phase wires. Most or all controllers will have a higher phase amp number. I look at it as line amps is your horse power and phase amps is your torque.
Hello, does anyone know if the fardriver nd72530 and qs138 70h v3 is a good combination for my electric dirt bike conversion? Or do I maybe need a Fardriver that can deliver more amps?
Sbould be a great match i think those are good for 15kw maybe a little more? I hooked up a similar spec fardriver to a qs138 90h pitbike and its a little beast!
Is this setup similar to a 72260? I just ordered mine and haven’t got it yet.
It will indeed wire up the same! Only differences are the levels of power they are capable of! Other wise all fardrivers excluding encoders use the same color code!
Hey... tell me if the fardriver works with shifting gears using button 3?
Yes you can use a 3 speed switch on the fardriver
Where did u get the tuning plug they didn’t send one with my kit and it’s 80$ on Amazon 😢
I ordered my controller directly from fardriver and it comes with it!
Have you ever used a Domino throttle? Are they as good as I hear?
I havent actually. They look pretty sweet. I did just hook up a amazon surron throttle and it feels pretty good, has some pretty good sping tension and looms clean!
Thanks man I think I’ll eventually upgrade to that Amazon surron throttle. @@EmxBrandon
For sure! One of these day i do wanna try a domino cable throttle with one of those little hall throttle boxes though and see how it feels.
Hello
I have the same set up when i connect the battery to the controller im only reading 1.7v but the battery is reading 68.2v any ideas? Has the controller gone faulty??
Where are you testing voltage when your reading 1.7v?
On battery cables , it seems when i put the cables on the connectors is drops power
@samingham3077 thats strange, definitely sounds like a defective controller. Ive come across this before from a controller bought off aliexpress from kitespeed.
hi is it possible to wire up a key switch voltmeter not two seperate things when there on the same thing it has 3 wires ( green , black , red) but i would also like a surron throttle aswell would it be possible to wire these up to plug and play connectors to the nd72300 and how would i do it any help is appreciated
I'm not sure what you mean by plug and play connectors, but you can absolutely repin and throw on new connectors! The keyswitch/voltmeter combo and the surron throttle are very easy to wire up. I believe I show how to wire up the surron throttle in this video and I wanna say I go over how to wire the key/volt combo aswell but that's just green to orange ignition, red to battery positive(or pink wire) and black to battery negative(or black wire next to pink wire)
@@EmxBrandon ok thank you brandon i have also been told about my nd72300 would be way to powerful for my mxr1500w motor and it wouldn’t pull 5kw it would only pull 3500w due to the rpm of the motor? is this true
@aidanread880 the 72300 is the perfect controller for the mototec, ypu only wanna run a fardriver at around 70% of its max current which is 70 amps and you only wanna run the mototec motor at around 60-70 amps. Now with the stock 48v battery yes you'll only push around 3500w or if you add a 72v and you'll get 5000w with the same tune
@@EmxBrandon okay because i have been told that my motor would be fried and it’d be pushing 9kw continuous but i don’t believe that to be true as 70 amps and 72 volts makes 5000 watts so it seemed to be perfect for that motor
@@EmxBrandon so would the 72300 at 70amps be ok with the mxr1500w motor ?
Hey is there a way you can link a battery for this I like the 48v idea cause I don’t think i need 72v power but love the frame of the b1 and want a 48v setup also what would be the top speed ?
Check out my amorge battery video! I definitely recommend going through them. No link since you have to email them but totally worth it, quality and super cheap. For 48v youd probably get around 35ish with a good tune!
35$ I don’t know if that’s what you meant but I will check out the vid and I will go through them thanks for the help
@@ghastly545 nah 35 mph on 48v, i wish batterys were that cheap!
@@EmxBrandonya lol 😂 I knew the at couldn’t be right but yes 35mph would be good because I mainly rip my noses razor around the woods and don’t wanna go to fast because it’s more technical but I really appreciate the help ❤ also I am still kinda of new and this video helped a lot and would this controller setup be great with a 48v battery?
@@EmxBrandonwe’re could I email them or buy the controller with the cords because they responded to my emails but only told me some number code thing 😂 but do they have a WhatsApp I thought that number thing could be it but clearly not because it didn’t work!
Sabes cómo se conecta o activa algún modo N (neutral) para que no funcione el acelerador?
Im not sure, ive never figured that out. Tried a few things on my mototec build with no luck.
A link for that battery would be sick to
Battery came out of my stock mototec! Pretty sure they are out of stock though.
My controller wont connect, no noises, and none of those wires seem to match...
Did you buy a plug and play kit? Sounds like your key switch isnt wired up correctly.
Dumb question, who are you purchasing the fardriver controllers from? Fardriver never responds to emails.
If lvchao@far-driver.com doesnt respond try nick@far-driver.com
I get usually email lvchao
Aliexpress. Qs motors is a dealer for fardriver now.
Hey would you be interested in hoping on a ft call and helping me really quick I am so lost
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