The COMPLETE Beginners Guide to Mythic+ in 2023
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0:00 - Phase 1: Preparation
10:49 - Phase 2: Research
15:26 - Phase 3: Practice
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Skill Capped ❤ well organized info in an approachable manner delivered in a friendly non assuming tone. Thank you for getting into PVE!
Amazing vid. That is EXACTLY what all players should do. I do 100% agree. Muscle Memory, Research (which I often dont do), Skill Practice, Rotation Practice, Utility Familiarity. YEP... Becomming "less" greedy as a DPS player and think more critically about MobGroups and become more and more an Asset to such groups - I 100 % agree. This video was well made!
Amazing, great video!
Amazing video!!
This is such a great channel for mythic plus!
Great video. One thing I struggled with the most as a tank was doing mob control while calling stops and kicks for the group. Is this something you could tackle in one of the videos?
Unless you’re in comms you won’t be able to call kicks or pugs easily.
The best thing to do is use auto marker and assign kicks and hope they get their targets
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great video! personally I tend run no addon's except for details, little and big wigs and I only run weak auras for stuff to track interrupts and my mouse lol. if I need to my cd timer's and defensives I can just quickly look down for a second and still avoid mechanic's etc. But I mostly tank so it may be different for other's. but I Timed a 17 halls of infusion on my 425 monk and we only had like 6 death tords the end ( My fault got sloppy and didn't do the intermission phase properly and died which caused us to wipe). but we also didn't really have a meta comp. My buddy on his preservation evoker, a Shadow priest and his buddy augmentation evoker and a unholy dk.
I never really touched much of M+ because i never like that system since BFA but this video sounded pretty well prepared.
Learn to mouse move (hold L+R mouse) whike incorporating jumping. Thisll free up qweasd for keybinds plua shift and alt binds.
This will also allow you to "snapshot". Run forward by holding both mouse buttons, hit space bar, swing the mouse 180*, hit your ability, swing back 180* to keep running. This is very helpful as a hunter in PvP. Or as a brew master running to the next pack and hitting a keg smash on the move to keep aggro.
Dillisan, I KNOW THAT GUY! Wonderful video, thanks for featuring Dilli
I mostly do M+. I was super competitive in BFA, didn't play SL, got back into M+ in Season 1 of DF and now I'm competitive again in S2. Whenever I start gearing a new alt, I seek out beginner groups and I can say from experience that there are two types of noobs. One type won't respond when you ask if everyone knows the dungeon and then proceeds to have a death count of 25 by the end of the run, pulls mobs that don't need to be pulled and spends half of the boss fights running around not DPS'ing bc they don't want to die again. The other type lets everyone know they're new and learning which allows the group to help them and the run goes much smoother. Don't be the first guy please. I've helped a bunch of people get KSM. I love WoW. I want people to want to play the game, don't be an ass.
Also, considered playing more needed roles. Although I rolled an evoker to play Aug, my ilvl was a bit low to get into groups. As such, I played healer to get my ilvl up. Sometimes it is easier to climb and gear in a different role before switching to your main.
I can't recommend a game pad like a Logitech G13 or Razer Tartarus enough. It is much more efficient than a keyboard.
it's definitely possible to do that for new Beginners.
I've started playing my MM Hunter.... 3 or 4 Weeks ago, not sure, and I'm currently doing 15's - 17's Keys.
I'm at 1901 rating.
I have never done Mythics before, I played some Retail here and there, but mainly PvP.
but now that I've found my Class for PvE, I wanted to pump M+
all Pugging btw.
Please create a keybind video. With top players examples keybinds.
Heroics aren't the best way to practice M+ mechanics unless you are doing the pulling just because usually in heroics the pulls are enormous. Tanks will pull almost every mob all at once so they can get through it fast. If you are tryna memorise what trash mobs do and what boss mechanics are definitely do low level M+ over heroics.
The overload of info was common in wrath.
Excellent.
I'd like to see some advice for players to ween themselves off rotation helpers. They are a bit like a drug in that it's super helpful when you are learning a new class, but so addictive that you can't get off them. The main problem is I find I'm starting at the rotation helper (admittedly much closer to the action than the action bars} instead of focusing on the enemy nameplates like you mentioned. I guess just going cold turkey is the only real solution.
The first step would be to learn what your buttons do and why you use them in that order/situation.
The goal is to have a global understanding of your class.
If you have that understanding you will start to realize when you mess up and you won't need a rotation helper.
And yes I believe cold turkey is the best way. You either have the addon enabled or you don't anyway
i wrote a comment down below in answer of another comment about a rotational helper. maybe it helps you to realize that its not good for your future performance!
"thats a big no no. this is SO bad, especially for new players. the biggest point being cd planning. you sometimes dont want to send 2min cds in a pack, because after that comes a harder pack or a boss. but hekili tells you to, so i send, so we wipe on next pack because no damage. thats horrible.
other point is that you dont learn to play situational. pressing deffensives, cc mobs or maybe press an other spell then best on prio list in order to survive. example would be enraged regeneration for fury warriors. its a deffensive when you press the button, but when you press bloodthirst when youre low, you heal yourself up for a bigger ammount thanks to the cd. but rotational wise its worse than rampage or raging blow if you dont have tier set %, but it will let you survive and not die.
Hekili cant think for you. uninstall this.
Only use Hekili when you do your 15s and dont care about higher keys and dont want to perform in a competitive way and when you dont want to get better. I would only advice this addon for older people whos brain isnt so fast anymore.."
@@TheChuky18 Haha, I am actually an older guy who's brain isn't so fast anymore.. but I agree. I play a bunch of classes but I've noticed that particularly on DH the rotation helper is pretty bad since we are always trying to hit our essence break combo, and no rotation helper suggests anything close to that. My original question was a bit rhetorical since I know the only way to stop using them is to, well, stop using them, suck for a while, then get better.
@@andrewcampion8200 haha what a response :D the best way would be to sim your character via quick sim, then you have your rotation shown and then you practice that on the target dummy till you know it with closed eyes. after that its just practice in dungeons and raids. im sure you´ll crush it!
Good guide overall but as a new player you could have explained what those addons do and how to use them since you said they essentials to m+
That is where their premium membership comes in .can't give it all away for free 😂
Question for you guys. I've played since vanilla and since I started playing Warlock I've used a variety of spell timer addons to track dots and stuff. However for the past 10 years I've used an addon called Buttontimers to basically track every classes core abilities in the centre of my screen. I do 'alright' like this. Currently 2.8k pugging but I do think it's perhaps holding me back because my eyes are constantly moving between the timers and the environment.
Please expand more on the process of learning a rotation by rote, I just don't understand how it's possible to press every ability right on time without some kind of reference.
Bear in mind this is how I've played since vanilla so 'just practice' isn't helpful. It's a fundamental part of how I play the game.
Start breaking your habit. Its up to you. Theres no magical solution. You need to force yourself
Nice video :) I am missing a little bit the part of trying to network and make friends. Also (at least in the EU-region) we have a lot of M+ discord communities where people are allowed to learn. And where nobody asks what your ilvl or rio is. We just invite anyone learn and have fun.
Could you hook me up with some of those communities. I'm trying to get back into the game and learn endgame content and in my experience those servers are essential to do that :3
Discord name?
@@lucadesanctis563 No Pressure, Chill Streak, Dungeon Dojo, Calmer keystones, and way more i do not even know of.
Chronic wrist pain and short fat fingers have made some clicking a hill that i must die on, and boy have I died on it 💔
Propping my wrist up has saved me from wrist pain. If the top of your arm is level with the top of your hand you have a good angle that could reduce wrist pain. If nothing like that has worked for you I am very sorry, shit sucks man.
I dont play much nowadays cause i have a daughter. I do The 20's, change The spec, enough for me. Mainly because i only pug. Today's 24s+ needs a requirement i dont have taday, time. Well, what i actually want tô say is l, loved this guide, it serves for beginners and pros that somehow lost their way. I learned from my father, when u strugle in something get back/ or keep with The fundamentals. Thats why i Love guides, even some friends saying its noob shit, and i keep watching The strugling with Basic stuff and stressing out
Absolutely terrifying to know that there are people probably clicking their abilities in my M+ keys
I still click most of my abilities and I have 2.8kio. Doesn’t make me a bad player.
@delphoxxthevulpera68 But you could be better and higher if you just didn't. Not only do you have to take time to look where you're clicking instead of the action but it also takes longer which will be slightly less dps.
@@delphoxxthevulpera68 I also was a clicker since vanilla, playing off and on. I only just started using keybinds in dragonflight and oh my.. I cannot imagine now how I was able to do content before. Personally I have to use an MMO mouse cause I just can't coordinate my fingers with full keyboard binds, but it was a 1000% improvement to my game once I made the switch.
I've always been a clicker. And thanks to arthritis, I always will be.
2.5 k Rio and I sometimes click my Rallying Cry. Now what? I see hundreds of idiots not kicking or stunning mobs which is WAY worse..
I want to get a 15 button mouse with 12 buttons at the thumb so it will be easier for keybinds for me. But there pricy.
Started a month ago and I’m doing 18s on my warrior
then I think ur good dawg
Would be nice to have different modes to run M+ in like removing the timer at the cost of making the mobs 2 or 3 key levels higher. You might have to rethink depleting keys but that's a stupid mechanic anyway and not everyone wants to speed run all the time. Timed runs would still be a superior way to run the key for the hardcore grinders but you'd have the option to kick back and take it easy sometimes. Honestly, removing key depletion would solve most of the problem I have with m+ but I still like the idea of a non-timed run option. It'd be a good way to train for higher timed runs.
My first time trying tanking in M+ this week, I managed to make +5 keys. You need to relax and do your best.
Just did the new mega dungeon as a 410. It's more about not dying than unloading damage.
Only with the right team. Not if u get one that abandons u in the portal phase before Morchie/Battlefield tho..
Solid, Is wow attracting new players?
No and I can guess why. Tons of add-ons that fuck up ur UI, toxic community that prevents u to even PLAY a fucking sub game, rushing mentality.. I wonder why nobody new is coming..
Yes it does however it is not an easy game to get into and there is a lot of dropoff in players who start and players who continue
it did me
I am liking the game so far but I haven't got into any endgame content yet
Pls do addons video for m+
Does anyone know how to make MDT auto mark the mobs?
it's a weak aura, go to wago and search for auto marker
I've been playing since vanilla, but have never done M+ -- always raids. I've got a resto druid (ilvl 412) that I'd like to gear up with M+.
I've got my keybinds & rotation down, & my real goal is to pug M+ to get Keystone Hero this season. Is that a realistic goal?
Even better then keybinds is a Razor 12 button gaming mouse...even faster the keybinding
Yea, as far as the research goes, there's only about a thousand videos on YT that cover pretty much every dungeon/level run in WoW. So, no excuses not to know the mechanics and your role before getting in there.
As someone who got into WoW 2 months ago, leveled, did Dragonflight campaign, did the post-campaign quests and LFR for both tiers, then started trying hard content.
I bought pots/phials/crafted 376 gear. I did weeklies for sparks to make crafted gear, and got an LFR piece from my vault each week, and pushed into the low-400's. I started M+, making a M0 and then..... got walled.
I have no history, no raider io , and am a Elemental shaman, something NOBODY needs but it's the class I enjoy.
I get declined over and over for even the lowest of keys, and have had no way to progress besides running my own key. That is the only way, I would get declined literally every single application for hours. Why accept me when you can take someone who's been playing awhile and has a history of keys and better ilvl and better spec. It's very discouraging to new players. I get why it's that way, since WoW raiders want other experienced WoW raiders to not waste time, but it's how a game dies when no new-blood is coming in.
I haven't played since Cataclysm, so I don't have a history either, you could say. With this extremely fast gear system from season 2, you can easily get to 420+ ilvl through world events and professions. From 420+ ilvl you can easily get into a normal raid and of course as a dps you have much more competition in m+ groups. In short, set up your m+ dungeons.
I would second what @filip5382 said. I basically capped out my ilvl before even attempting M+. So with even with no RaiderIO score ppl were glad to accept me into a group with a 420+ ilvl for low keys. It also made me feel more comfortable going into those keys knowing that ilvl might make up for some lack of expereince/knowledge/skill.
Its not your fault. Honestly its the fault of blizz making normals/heroics so easy. You never learn the dungeons by the time you’re into mythics because in the lower difficulties nothing actually punishes you so you dont learn what’s deadly.
@@benjaminghazi787 it's players fault because they follow the meta. In 5's
can someone explain how to get a keystone. that's all we care about
Just do a mythic 0 and you’ll loot one at the end
I guess I'm the only person that plays with arrow keys (for movement) and number pad (with 3 modifiers on mouse to triple bindings). Everyone tells me I'm weird.
Just tell people to play either a guardian druid, h pal, Aug evoker, spriest or fire mage. That's the first step.
Change WASD to SDF: that is, from the basic typing position (ASDF for your left hand) use S & F to strife and D to move forward. Bind all main spells around those keys and you are done.
You DO NOT backpedal!
Backpedal is VERY useful for tanks and there are many times where it is useful.
gREAT VIDEOS
Step 4 : no toxic M+ community cuz the M+ is community is crap
Bro just said mind muscle connection like we're trying to get jacked. I'm playing world of warcraft quite the opposite good sir
you forgot the most important step:
have a closed 5 man group to push with you.
Theres ppl saying they clicker to 2500 but yeah ur a troll just saying. Yw for the carries.
For real. They’re just in denial. The same people bottoming dps on every pull and every boss and soaking up brez’s
My Feral Druid is 438 and I find it really hard to get in to +16 keys!! It usually takes me 10-20mins!!
best thing you can do in 10.1.5 is get fire mage, shadow priest, aug evoker, holy paladin or tankie dudu. Other specs will ultimately make you practice dragonriding in valdrakken for hours
I like how Asmongold is in the keywords of this video.
why i dont like wow.. mods are neccessity.. if its mandatory, why dont blizzard just make an official one
Step 1, make sure you have an mmo gaming mouse.
Meh
@@Shiprok like JoJo meh?
@@carpathiandevil ? Was just saying you don't need one
I always recommend the keybind setup I have used for years but never see anyone using.
First remove movement from WASD.
Keybind all major abilities to 1-5, F1-F5, QWERT.
1-5 and F1-F5 are major abilities and cool downs and get bound to action bar 1.
QWERT are defensives and major utility.
Thumb side mouse button 4 calls Action Bar 1, and button 5 calls Action Bar 2.
Now put minor or less common abilities on 1-5 and F1-F5 of Action Bar 2.
You now have quick and relaxed access to 25 keybinds without having to use shift/ctrl/alt and
without stretching your fingers.
The number and F keys you can shift action bars if you need a minor ability and the QWERT keys don’t change, allowing always access to defensives.
For movement your mouse buttons move forward, V/B is strafe left and right, and C is backward if you’re a tank. Space is still jump. That’s all you need. You don’t need turn left and right keybound at all.
I have used this for every character for 15 years and it works great. I now use a Razer Tartarus to accomplish the same thing, but I did it on a standard keyboard for years. Give it a try.
Hekili addon for all new DPSers. You're welcome.
Does it work? I heard it's not correct 😅
@@syxqid3818 Works well for melee for sure.
@@TheSometimeAfter New DPSers will get there but it's great for new players
thats a big no no. this is SO bad, especially for new players. the biggest point being cd planning. you sometimes dont want to send 2min cds in a pack, because after that comes a harder pack or a boss. but hekili tells you to, so i send, so we wipe on next pack because no damage. thats horrible.
other point is that you dont learn to play situational. pressing deffensives, cc mobs or maybe press an other spell then best on prio list in order to survive. example would be enraged regeneration for fury warriors. its a deffensive when you press the button, but when you press bloodthirst when youre low, you heal yourself up for a bigger ammount thanks to the cd. but rotational wise its worse than rampage or raging blow if you dont have tier set %, but it will let you survive and not die.
Hekili cant think for you. uninstall this.
Only use Hekili when you do your 15s and dont care about higher keys and dont want to perform in a competitive way and when you dont want to get better. I would only advice this addon for older people whos brain isnt so fast anymore..
@@ItsAllCulturalMarxism okay thx
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The best advice you could give a new player when it comes to Mythic +
1: Have Lots of friends to play with.
2: IF you do not have lots of friends... you need a special class: Guardian Druid...Holy Paladin...Augvoker...Shadow Priest...Fire Mage.
That is the truth... (i have 439 Ret Paladin, and it takes 20 min+ to get into a simple +16 key, and the new dungeon i can even forget completely to get into).
I am ret 444 2.7k just by doing my own keys and going with "prot pala/bdk, resto shaman, fury warrior, retri, hunter/balance druid" seems legit.
If you're at EU, let me know, we can do that megadungeon.
And yes, that new meta comp is boringgggggggggggg af, makes girls going in dry.
2:20 Rule #1 for efficient keybinds: DO NOT use WASD. Using ESDF will grant you a few extra buttons to the left of your movement keys you can use for hotkeying.
There are no brand new players in this game. Or better to say no new players that have plans to stay. 99% of those who have tried WoW during last 2 epacs left to be never seen again. And that won't change.
M+ guide: clear all keys in 1 week or u'll be perma rejected. Seriously, don't play this game
I'm new and only going to play for casual BGs. PvE scene looks toxic af if you're solo.
@@buttlesschap just leave this trash game. It's not worth ur mental health, unless u rally like the Universe of Warcraft
@@buttlesschapIts not nearly as bad as people make it seem. I hot 70 and 2 days later I'm pugging +13s. Any group that's failed hard just disbanded and nobody got mad at anyone else.