Why the FDA Wants to Ban Menthol Cigarettes | WSJ
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2022
- The FDA is advancing a plan to ban menthol cigarettes, which it says are harder to quit. WSJ’s Jennifer Maloney explains why the Biden administration wants to stop them from being sold, and why critics say a ban could have unintended consequences. Illustration: Jacob Reynolds
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If the FDA thinks menthol cigarettes are bad just wait until they hear about the Big Mac.
Yes, but if they banned Big Macs the entire country would revolt.
big mac is fine, just don't eat it 3 meals a day 7 days a week. once or twice a month it won't harm you, just skip the giant cup of sugary soda.
@@0xsergy No, thank you. I feel lightheaded if I eat a Big Mac.
@@leoarc1061 i feel more lightheaded with an empty stomach. Its all a balance
Personally, I think it's more likely a kid eats junk food every day than smokes a cigarette. @@0xsergy
I wish they'd ban high fructose corn syrup. The target of that market is children.
Yes this 100%
No, because it will disproportionately affect poor people who need the cheap and calorie rich foods(that have HFCS).
Especially since we are experiencing stagnating real wage and a cost of living crisis.
A better alternative would be to heavily tax these foods and use the that money to subsidize healthy foods to make them more affordable and accessible.
There should also be a ban on Buy One Get One Free deals along with advertising for junk foods.
This is what will work to curb obesity.
Some of these measures introduced in London reduced junk food consumption.
Nonsense. People doesn't need calories from sugar. One third of kids have diabetes and are fat now. Fast food chains and sweet drink manufacturers target kids for decades now especially in poor countries without government protection. Why nobody targets junk food even there is a crisis in US of obesity.
No, it's not.
The market for high fructose corn syrup is literally everyone. Because it's just a slightly cheaper sugar. And cheaper means more profit.
@@riddhimaansenapati5006 Wait. Don't ban HFCS because poor people need cheap foods, but tax cheap junk food and use it to subsidize healthier alternatives instead? What makes you think the subsidy will make healthier foods more affordable? You're essentially taxing the poor and subsidizing everyone else's food. Besides, let's assume healthy foods become cheaper than unhealthy foods. If poor people switch over and stop buying cheap junk food, who's going to pay the tax to subsidize the healthier foods?
HFCS is a very unhealthy and cheap cane sugar alternative made from corn. Numerous studies have shown it's not only partially responsible for the obesity epidemic, but can also lead to diabetes. The reason HFCS is cheap is because the US subsidizes corn farming.
If someone wants to buy a pack of menthol.
Let them do so.
When has banning something in this country ever worked?
Or benefited anyone?
Prohibition anyone?
This is what I've been trying to say for everything.
What a ridiculous assertion! I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you that you would say such a thing. Why, we banned alcohol in this country wants…… Oh, yeah. Never mind!
Nah it usually makes things worse
They’ll ban cigarettes but not soda. That’s how you know they don’t care.
Yeah. It’s like they want everyone to not smoke just like the government folks themselves that don’t do it. The government needs to quit making people live the same way as them.
This. They want to take away freedom.
First ban alcohol for that matter
Except cigarettes are addictive, soda isn’t
So soda is worse than cigars
They banned em here in Canada but seeing legal cannabis cartridges with menthol in them being sold legally through the government shops is pretty funny.
New port carts
@@itsyaboyskinnnypimp42069 if they looked cool enough I'd be pretty tempted
That’s Real Tho 👈💯🌎
>-> am in Canada and am native so I go to the reserve for menthols lol
With the help of #drewi1 i was cured from hsv1&2 with natural herbs 🌿
I like how they think smokers will stop smoking just because they banned a certain type of flavor
The idea is it’ll both discourage people from starting and further incentivize current smokers to quit, it isn’t meant to be the end all be all, but every little step helps in reducing smoking, given it works as intended
@@mikepomal7515 “works as intended” prohibition has never worked lol
@@warzonebestmoments4264 because it’s provisions were draconian and it was never properly enforced, if it strictly banned hard liquor and state governments actually enforced it, then it might’ve seen some success
@@warzonebestmoments4264 🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 All which is VERBOTEN teases MUCH more than if its allowed . . .Maybe thats why weapons are NOT banned . . . 😁
Since when did they care about taking care of the youth? It's more to it.
They said that menthol cigarettes were advertised in magazines and on billboards, but that has been illegal since the 1980's.
Only for TV
With the help of #drewi1 i was cured from hsv1&2 with natural herbs 🌿
I’m 62. I can still remember the TV ads and jingles. There were so many.
In the 1950s a large German tobacco company started researching on how to make bad tobacco more palatable. Internally that project was referred to as “Kinderzigarette” (have google translate that one for best effect…)
Menthol and liquorice were the most effective ingredients in that regard. They also used ammonia salts in order to produce free base nicotine during the smoking in order to produce a shorter lasting nicotine high, thus increasing the amount of cigarettes one needs to achieve the necessary blood nicotine levels. All this sounds like a James Bond level conspiracy, but it actually happened. How can I be sure of it? One of the lab assistants working on that project had a child, whom he warned about the dangers of smoking, and who is now writing this very comment.
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that man's name? Albert Einstein 😮
r/thathappened
The majority of menthol smokers are african Americans. I could also say it's an undercover bill by the democrats to target a specific demographic, while disguising it as a good thing. The irony that SJW's support this is funny to me.
This is highly likely. Companies are always looking for ways to obtain a "subscriber base" of addicts for a constant cash flow.
help me daddy government i cant make choices without your heavy hand 🥺🥺
As a person who lives in a menthol banned state already it grew a black market overnight
Sorry to hear that brotha and I bet you got a bunch of asshats selling it for an ridiculous number
@@SojournerflameofGod yes and no u can find cartens at ok prices but alot of ppl selling packs a charging alot cartens are around 110$ and packs are between 12 and 15 alot of ppl selling singles for a dollar too
Banning cigarettes? Seriously? What are we gonna get, prohibition again after they do this now?
Yeah, fentanyl cigarettes for sure. Who knows if they'll even have tobacco in em.
Can you guys stop making life hard, giving us crutches and then slapping us in the face by taking it away and blaming us for wanting to reduce suffering?
Benefits of smoking are low and short term, don't remove 10 years of your life wasting your money buying expensive cancer sticks
Smoking does no such thing. I use to smoke so don't try to @me. There were smokes that felt blissful, but they did not ease suffering.
@@Quixan does feeling blissful not reduce suffering in the moment?
@@DivineLightPaladin if you're truly mindful of how your body feels when you take a drag, you'll likely notice you don't enjoy smoking.
@@Quixan you're right, and I quit 2 months ago already.
Oh boi, can't wait to tell customers that we can't sell them their cigarettes anymore. Just like I get yelled at for bad gas prices I'll get yelled at about that too😮💨
@Top Shott Did you really type "finna"?
That’s retail
@@hawaiisidecar do u need me to pinch you? Or did you glasses brake so you can't double check?
Why just ban menthol when we all know all cigarettes are harmful anyway?? That's why I don't get banning menthol.. then vape juice and mods. Like yeah let's ban the safest alternative rather than going straight to the problem itself.🙄
Right banning menthol cigarettes will get people to quite smoking, look how that worked for the prohibition and drugs, that got people to stop and didn't create a underground market🤣🤣
I like how they claim that menthols are targeting kids, meanwhile the statistics they show in the vid are nearly identical between kids and the entire market, meaning it's more of a personal preference (personally I smoke socially on occasion, and I hate menthols, completely ruins the tobacco flavor and throat feel).
vapes target kids and teens which then introduces them to smoking
@@lonIey sure, but a bit irrelevant to this particular conversation
@@xxportalxx. they are a massive issue relating to nicotine and cancer in youth right now, they are extremely easy to access and you see kids everywhere using them without the knowledge of the effects it will have just because it looks more approachable than smoking. Yet nobody is raising awareness of this fact anywhere and vapes are being glorified as sexy and a trend?
@@lonIey I mean perhaps where you live they aren't, however where I live they've already banned all of the flavored varieties of the quick and simple pod types, and my state is trying to band flavors outright for all vapes atm.
@@xxportalxx. I live in the United Kingdom and even though you have to be 18 to purchase, every single person I know has one. It's an issue that for some reason seems to never be addressed or has been noticed by anyone? Maybe once the effects become clear in a few years it will show.
How about let people decide what they wanna do for once?
if we did; most of em would be dead and gone and replaced with competent people already. dont wish for something you don't plan on accepting .
@@ChickenMcThiccken freedom of choice dude, eating a load of burgers will kill you slowly too but this is somehow different? Come on now
@@ChickenMcThiccken Who cares? Obviously not the government.
@Lina S orrrr we stop funding public healthcare too as it only increases premiums and the cost of normally affordable drugs by killing market competition.
@Lina S you clearly don't know what ur talking about adults should be able to make their own decisions
They aren't gonna quit. They will just go to the black market where quality is worst. 18+ citizens still smoke tobacco even though the Federal government boosted the age to 21 for sale of tobacco products.
Why it got to be black?
Yep, we'll throw you an M4 and send you to Afghanistan, but no you can't have a smoke or a beer yet, because you're too young. You can risk your life for your country, but we don't feel you're mature enough to handle the decision of smoking or drinking🙄
@Cthulhu because it is ridiculously easy to spray tobacco with menthol, allow it to dry, and roll it. Anyone with fifty bucks could roll out several packs worth a day extremely easily so the demand would easily be met
Thats just flat out crazy. How could you allow 18 year olds to carry firearms and join the military, but the purchase of alcohol and cigarettes one must be 21? I swear, this is baffling to a non american.
The smoking age should be 18 in the first place.
Doesn't matter if this ban happens. They already sell menthol flavoring. So people could just add it to their non menthol cigarettes.
doesn't work that way.
@@ChickenMcThicckenit has and does.
Glad they are trying to ban mint flavor tobacco, while the highschool parking lots are full of storms of fruity vape smoke, like its a civic meetup
They banned that too tho?
@@lobo2483 fruity vape pods were banned but that doesn't mean there isnt readily available fruity disposables and/or straight up vape juice
@@lobo2483 weird smoke shops are full of fruity flavors for vaping
@@HansBelphegor because they aren’t in pod form which is the only ban they made. Making bottle juices and disposable are different
Menthol supposedly makes cigarettes more addictive, yet non-menthol smokers outnumber menthol smokers.
Sounds fishy to me.
Why not ban all cigs?
Adults are and should be allowed to decide for themselves and those with kids hold the responsability to parent them. Banning stupid things on the basis of stupid reasons never work, ever.
Ahhh so you advocate for the legalization of crystal meth then? That certainly wouldn't have any longterm system societal impact. Freedom of choice right? Or perhaps we should make seatbelts optional? Can't have the government infringe on your right to die violently.
@ContradictoryCrow I think we shouldn’t just stop there. We need to start going towards alcohol too. Has many bad effects on health and youth with development issues. NEW ERA OF PROHIBITION!
100 percent agree.
@@inter5123 lol, you realize prohibition created organized crime, led to street gangs, taught the value of effective smuggling, and created an almost infinite demand and equal potential for profitability. This in turn has directly led to the drug war, the crack epidemic, and now fentanyl. Consider how many deaths at the hands of prohibition fuelled organized crime, most violent deaths.
I guess my point is people will never ever stop indulging in narcotics & booze and prohibition only causes greater harm while making cruel greedy criminal organizations extremely wealthy.
@@Quagigitymire sarcasm*
Educate, don’t ban
I know several people who started smoking in young adulthood and went to their graves by 50-55 years of age from lung or throat cancer. RIP to my dear friend John who was always saying that he would quit tomorrow or next week but he died so quickly from throat cancer. My hope for anyone who wants to quit now is that they can, and will remain healthy thereafter.
My dad just passed away from throat cancer. Died 17 days after he found out. Caused by drinking and smoking. He was just 71. Let’s go ahead and get rid of alcohol too Lol! My ex husband at the age of 48 died from liver failure from drinking. Eventually he lost everything over drinking. Including his family. He also smoked cigarettes as well. Lungs were just fine. Actually his choice was cannabis, but he was scared of losing his job so he drank. I’ve never heard of anyone dying from smoking weed. All states need to legalize cannabis. We have other things to worry about than cigarettes. It’s not a good idea to ban nicotine. People will be losing their minds. Just my opinion
How about we make it illegal to die young lol
illegal to die young hahaha
@@DragonOverdosed do you not get the joke dummy. make it illegal to die young ...
Cancer cured smoking
You know I’m not against the ban. But some of this data doesn’t help it’s case.
Example: when about 50% of people within a 5% margin used one of the two flavors of tobacco available, that doesn’t prove that menthols are more addictive, it means they got their equal split of consumers, there are only two choices, in fact, it seems more preferred reds then menthol
50-50
It’s actually amazing how equally split it is in reality and statistically
If they want to get rid of things that cause deaths then go after alcohol one drunk person behind the wheel can kill more in one night after "one too many" drinks than a single cigarette. Or is the paycheck from the liquor companies bigger than the tabacco ones?
RIP Newport 100s.
*Three yrs clean and it's a struggle!"
They went from changing the age limit from 18 to 21 and now they’re trying this 🤣🤣🤣
C’mon now, it seems they’re trying to make it illegal to be unhealthy now
@Roberta Andreea sounds like ur defending cigs
As if sugar and fast food don’t cause problems
@@i_c_e_555 the FDA tries to ban a type of cigarettes and they act as if it’s literally 1984
@@Danieldoomer You sure about that?
@@univon4892 ya people are over reacting it for our own good
In countries like Finland and many other EU countries, flavoured tobacco has been banned for a while now. However they do sell flavour cards, that when placed in the pack, add menthol and other flavours into your tobacco.
Its an EU directive so all of eu
Create a problem, sell a solution.
Canada also!
That sounds silly
@@mason4354 What does? Basically it's just a paper card sealed in plastic, with a very strong smell and flavour in it (probably some kind of oil). When you put that inside your tobacco pack/pouch for few hours, it flavours it.
In my country they are placed near spice racks in stores, because you can add them to other stuff too. However everyone knows tobacco is what it is mostly used for, but I guess it gives the manufacturer some kind of deniability. From my own experience of using those cards, they really do work quite well and there is a minty or menthol freshness that sticks to the tobacco you can feel and taste during smoking.
The brand that is sold here is called Frizc and they cost ~ 1 € each.
My father smoked 3 packs a day of menthol cigarettes. He tried repeatedly to quit and never did.
My father smoked two packs a day of non menthol cigarettes. He tried repeatedly to quit and never did.
I most of time smoke non-menthol cigarette (not heavy smoker). After that, I tried menthol cigarette. I get fever caused by it. I quit smoking. Thank menthol.
Because he is a weak individual that's why...
Cool story.
I only smoked for for like five years but I've been clean 13 years. I used to smoke a pack a day at my peak. I never liked menthol. I tried it a few times and never saw the appeal. I didn't find the taste or sensation to be particularly pleasurable.
They want ban on cigarettes while they want to legalize weed. Politicians are a rare breed of no brainers.
I’m a smoker. I had my first cigarette when I was 13 and I started smoking regularly at 16. My first cigarette was not a menthol cigarette. None of my friends smoked menthols. I remember once in high school and buying a pack of menthols just to try it and offering some to my smoker friends and they all declined. They actually made fun of me for buying menthols. I’ve never felt like menthol cigarettes had a smoother draw to them. This proposed ban is ridiculous. I don’t believe that this will in any way curb nicotine usage, even among children. If menthol cigarettes are banned, I don’t believe that menthol smokers will just magically quit overnight. Menthol smokers will just turn to a different kind of cigarette. I’ve heard countless smokers say that if (thing) were to happen then they’d quit, and every time that thing does happen they still continue to smoke. Years ago there was a ballot measure in my state that proposed a significant tax increase on cigarettes, one of the benefits that its supporters touted was that it would decrease the number of smokers. The ballot measure passed and went into effect years ago and there was no mass of people quitting cigarettes. There was just a mass of people who were now being charged almost double for the same product.
Idk I went to highschool like 10 years ago and back then most of the kids smoking were smoking menthols, specifically Newports I remember them being everywhere. I doubt this bill would cause smokers to stop, but if it helps prevent kids from starting in first place maybe its a good idea.
I started at 14, but didn't try menthols until I was 17. My mom bought them because she was trying to quit, and I was thinking of trying to quit too so I tried one. It was a big mistake though, as I absolutely loved the taste of them. After that, menthols were all I would buy until I finally managed to successfully quit when I was 24. Hardest thing I've ever done, and menthols are even more difficult to quit than regular cigarettes.
It's been more than a decade since I quit, but when Canada banned menthols in 2017, a load of anxiety over the possibility of becoming addicted to them again finally started to fade.
I started at 13 too this ban is ridiculous
@@yuriydee It still will have no impact on youth smoking. So no. It won’t keep kids from starting to smoke. And guarantee you that even they increased the purchase age to 21. The youth smoking percentage especially in high schools and middle schools stayed the same like when the age was 18.
I never understood what gives the government the right to say what can or can not go in my body
Well.... u can off an unborn and they are ok with that.
the government has to pay for all the health bills that citizens can't afford. there is a national cost associated with having unhealthy citizens.
@@Kevinschart the govt doesnt HAVE to....
@@Kevin-mk6jo they kind of do. politicians like power. hard to keep power when the bodies of smokers start piling up and you do nothing about it.
@@Kevinschart no1 tells u to smoke. Live with decisions u make. Says it in the carton what happens.
Did they say that menthol soothes the irritation that smoke causes. They are more harsh because of the menthol. People like them because of the taste and cool feeling menthol has. They aren’t more smooth. Camel Turkish blend is smooth compared to a regular cigarette.
yeah menthol vapes are across the board more harsh, which for some reason makes me like them more.
Why are they not banning flavored alcohol?
Alcohol in moderate amount is harmless. Tabaco is harmful always
They should ban salt and sugar too? It makes food tastes good and is causing obesity and heart disease.
Tropic, they should ban it.. because peach vodka is a national tragedy
According to the CDC alcohol is a toxin and there is no safe exposure limit.
@@ignaciohavok1 alcohol in moderate amounts is even more harmful than smoking
FYI In Canada this was banned in 2016, and all Flavored cigarellos were also banned the same time. Though Cigarellos were quick snap banned and removed; Menthol was phased out over a year.
Let's be real, nobody is going to quit because of this. They'll just make the switch to non menthol and be mad about it. I personally don't like menthol and will enjoy my camel filters with an occasional cigar. This is more of a personal issue that the government along with other things should have no right governing.
Oh God how I miss the 20th century.
It's not so complicated. The last I heard the public health goals were to have the US smoking rate down below 1% by 2060. That's the directive, that's the job.
Health goals become complicated when big $$$$ is involved. Same with big pharma.
Why can't consumers for themselves decide what they purchase? It is not the role of government to regulate decisions made between consenting adults, period.
@@lmy2366 Because some consumers can't decide things for themselves. Namely, smokers.
@@user-do5zk6jh1k Consumers absolutely can decide what is in their own best interest and no government is properly going to represent them - no matter how good the intentions.
Why can’t people make a decision for themselves? Big Karen energy
rather than banning the cigs. just put maybe like 100000% tax on it..
that only benefits illegal organizations who will supply the demand with black market untaxed tobacco to everyone
Easy fix. Buy menthol. Cut it with something run a strip down the side of each smoke in the pack. Same spot regardless of any ban
Dip the filter in it. They also sell flavor beads separately that you can pop and have whatever flavor you want
I’ve been smoking newport for the better part of 2 decades and I can attest to this that quitting is really difficult 😔
Cap.
@Sleckysomeone, I am afraid of dying
You ,easy solution never born
Nicotine is hard to quit period lol
You're just weak and no willpower, I can have a drink and smoke and go weeks or even months before even doing it again.
Try stopping all sugar
I don't get the ban, Americans should know by now that prohibition of drugs doesn't really work and just creates a black market for these goods. Other countries have attempted to solve this problem by making cigarettes a lot more expensive by taxing their selling which produces a more instantaneous effect. If they try to ban them tobacco companies will just hold the ban in court forever
Banning a flavor isn’t the same thing as banning an entire drug.
@@McBotabeans that's a really fair point. But just to clarify a by a black market I don't mean a spooky dark alleyway selling stolen organs next to cigarettes. Local stores might sell them and just not put it on the books and under the counter, that kind of unregulated market will just exist with bans. So Im just not convinced that this will be a very effective method of reducing addiction
As they said it'll be targeted at manufacturers and ig importers too. It'll be illegal to make them so there won't be much supply to the market.
@@McBotabeans "a particular type of cigarette" there are only two types of cigarettes and are a third of all cigarettes sold. So its not a "small thing" being banned
This is the stupidest comment I've ever read. If menthol tobacco are banned at your local store, you're gonna have to through the trouble of getting them through the black market, thus it will drastically reduce the consumption of menthol cigarettes. Prohibition has worked for heroin because we don't have a society where it's normal to shooting up regularly just to get by. If ignorant people like you made laws, it would be normal for people to be taking heroin as often as they take other drugs, and you would constantly push the excuse that "prohibition doesn't work". Prohibition of heroin and crack HAS WORKED, because it's no longer normal to be hooked on these drugs.
Get ready for menthol to be apart of the war on drugs
So weird how they go after the safer alternative like vaping before the tobacco lol
No No No. I like Menthol Cigarettes. Please dont ban it.
Don't panic, there's nothing magic about the menthol in cigarettes. It's just food grade menthol. You can buy it on the baking aisle.
Get a tiny dropper and rub it across the paper after you dip it. practice with how much you put on until you get to where you'd like it, give it a few seconds to dry and smoke.
@lordgarion514 what about online? They might still sell menthol rolling tobacco there.
Prohibition does not work.
Tobacco was banned in the 13 colonies... Alcohol was banned in the 20s... and drug prohibition has fueled widespread gang warfare and the opioid crisis.
Governments should just tax dangerous products and use the revenue to help negate the adverse social repercussions.
Prohibition is a waste of time and resources.
"According to the FDA" - motto of the century
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I tried cigarette in a science class as a teen and I didn't like it. I started smoking weed after college. I really enjoyed it and it's free if you grow it yourself. Best medicine for many cure
government just can't stop encroaching on my choice of what i put in my body
The FDA has made tons of bogus claims. Trust me I know.
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 I see . . .the aspartame story ALONE says it all . . .
Like the jab
What a joke. They want to ban menthol cigarettes but you can smoke as much weed as you want legally in most states.
got to be stoned to laugh at that
Not sure but doesn't cigarettes cause way more deaths than weed,make sense to ban them
Weed has 0 additives. It’s just weed. Cigarettes and industrial tobacco are loaded with toxic cancer-causing chemicals.
@@amrutheshumashankar4996 because more people smoke cigarettes than weed.
because cigs are more detrimental to your health, especially if you're smoking a pack a day.
Doesn't alcohol kill more people cause more accidents and reach more teens?
Eating flesh is even worse.
@@rickdworsky6457
You can stop repeating that lie now.
I would give an actual link, but RUclips has been deleting posts with links like crazy lately. But you'll be able to find it from what I give.
PubMed article.
Title:
"Total Meat Intake is Associated with Life Expectancy: A Cross-Sectional Data Analysis of 175 Contemporary Populations"
"Results
Worldwide, bivariate correlation analyses revealed that meat intake is positively correlated with life expectancies. This relationship remained significant when influences of caloric intake, urbanization, obesity, education and carbohydrate crops were statistically controlled."
Also, you can look this one up on your own, but vegans and vegetarians have higher rates of mental illness, compared to meat eaters. 🤪
And fun fact" all of our plant foods contain insects, which are quite literally animals.
So, vegans and vegetarians actually eat more total animals than meat eaters. Because they eat a LOT more insects.🤣
And American junk food is greatly responsible for the fact that 93 million Americans are now pre-diabetic.
Alcoholic beverages do not cause harm when drank responsibly and when behaved.
@@rickdworsky6457 lol
Do the FDA realize that building menthol cigarettes they will be losing a lot of money we mean a lot of money
They losing my money now
Will they ban manually steered vehicles when the self driving ones become safer?
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0:16 This does nothing for me since my smokes are Marlboro reds …and guess what, I’m still 17, all of these laws they are trying to pass/passed have not worked, but what’s the point, they aren’t gonna realize the bills aren’t effective as they thought…
I like how we blame companies in this country but never the household. Kids wouldn’t be addicted if the parents were better
Exactly. Shouldn’t they be against the causes of why people want to do it which should belong?
Banning just menthol cigarettes is kind of racist.
Rather then ban cigarettes that target the black community just ban all cigarettes. If we can make drugs illegal why not cigarettes
Why is our money being used for BS like this? They should be focusing on educating the public on the dangers of smoking instead of treating their bosses, us adults who pay taxes, like children. And yes, this is absolutely our federal govt targeting our black communities!
We really need to skeletonize our federal govt & take away as much power from them as possible. A nanny state is an abusive one. Let adults be adults & make their own choices.
The one's targeting the black community are the cigarette companies. The "support" they are giving is called "advertisement". It's what drug dealers often do to get you hooked.
And all that money for cigarette adds up over time and could have been used by parents to buy their kids some school books.
Imagine working for a corporation that admits we need harm reduction, but plans to sue if the FDA bans.
When a tobacco company releases a statement, it should just be ignored. They dont deserve a voice in the matter.
Except the FDA is banning things based on politics instead of science. The harmful part of cigarettes isn't the menthol, so going after menthol doesn't make sense unless you want further police African Americans.
@@badluck5647 Are you against improving the health of African Americans?
@@user-do5zk6jh1k Switching from methol cigarettes to regular cigarettes doesn't improve health. The methol isn't the harmful part.
The ACLU is also concerned that Biden's ban on menthol cigarettes and other tobacco products would "foster an underground market" that would disproportionately harm people of color due to over-policing. Just look at Eric Garner, who died when an officer held him in a chokehold after he allegedly sold cigarettes outside a convenience store. A methol ban is going to increase cases like Garner's as an underground methol market is just going to give the police more excuses to harass African Americans.
@@badluck5647 They said menthol makes nicotine more addictive. Were you listening?
@@justpotato2042 That is a theory that has not been proven with science. In fact, for this ban, the FDA plans to run further studies, because the previous one didn't give them the results they wanted.
It does not ease through irritation from me it actually makes it more strong and most smokers I talk to you agree
This administration will realize to late, what a bad decision they did. Guess what I’m voting for Trump I’m getting tired of mandates and bans and control! What will be next
This is just gonna make the prohibition era of cigarettes worse
Anyone liking menthol cigarettes can buy menthol essence for cooking and drip some onto filters of the regular cigarettes it will have the same effect as the menthol cigarettes.
Because menthol helps clear your lungs and soul. Menthol is not bad for you. Using it without intention is bad for you.
I quit smoking menthol Newports on Dec 31st 2006, and it’s one of the best decisions I ever made.
But it was you who made that decision for yourself not the government.
Watched this video so I could pick a good choice in cigarette 😂😂😂!
i was finally able to quit all nicotine. thanks to vaping and cannabis
Vaping has nicotine
Smoking blunts have nicotine in it
I have had good blueberry weed in humboldt, weed that tastes like oranges, bubblegum, and it's natural flavors as far as I know. The first cigarette I smoked was a kool.I say ban menthols.
@@delarnogrey9674 blunts can have nicotine because of the wrapper. Cannabis doesn't have nicotine on its own.
@@thorjhonson1721 shhh don't tell him
Yea and cotton candy vodka definitely isn't a child friendly flavor
only cigarette i ever tried was newports mentol, only tried a puff of my friends cig but it felt so good, im surprised i didn't keep doin it
Great, more government regulation to tell adults what we can and can't do to our body. I get it, kids are getting a hold of these and they seem more appealing. The solution isn't to ban adults from smoking them, it's to increase the penalties for selling to minors. The government shouldn't be trying to solve problems by taking away our freedoms.
Canada banned menthols back in 2017, and I couldn't be happier about it.
I quit smoking in 2011, but before then I would usually smoke a pack of menthol cigarettes a day, and that's when they were only about $12 a pack.
Quitting was insanely difficult, easily the most difficult thing I have ever done, and a big part of what made it so difficult was the added menthol, as it's much harder to quit something you love the taste of.
Even after going years without touching nicotine though, I would still regularly wake up in a panic after having nightmares of getting addicted to them again, which was unusual for me as I don't normally have nightmares of any kind.
After they were banned though, that anxiety faded significantly as I realized that the ease of access was gone.
I wosh they would just do the same marketing campaign against sugar or corn syrup.
@@bigboiganiga8356 there have been efforts to tax sugar/HFCS. Take a guess at how well those go though.
@@zepher664 Thankfully not well.
@@zepher664 Sounds like a personal problem and you shouldn't be happy that other people have had their choice taken away.
As an ex-smoker who primarily smoked menthol cigarettes, the are indeed more appealing than regular cigarettes, assuming you like the taste of mint of course. I'm so glad that Canada eventually banned them a few years after I had quit.
Menthol cigarettes just taste so much better than regular, though not nearly as good as the flavored cigarettes that are banned in much of the English speaking world. Quitting menthol cigarettes was already the most difficult thing I've ever done, and I doubt I would have been able to quit at all if I had access to the flavored cigarettes from Hong Kong that I have occasionally tried.
The US should follow Canada's example; ban menthol cigarettes, and legalize the use and sale of recreational cannabis.
Except you can't smoke a j while driving, outside in a park, a building or around your car, nor drive afterward
The same way marijuana should be legalize shouldn’t flavored cigarettes be and people have the Choice?
@@samm5391 cannabis is still regulated, just like tobacco. No one is making cigarettes illegal, or stopping people from flavouring their own cigarettes themselves.
@@zepher664 sure but I can buy flavored weed carts here in cali and I think u can still buy flavored vape juice in a lot of states. All this half assed regulation isn’t gonna make anyone happy, if cigs are that dangerous then just ban them
@@static_at_home_8885 they should ban them. But just look at how the troglodites react to something even as small as this. You'd think they just had their favorite toy taken away, and told to go to bed when they're not tired.
“Lower cancer death rates” not by funding more cancer research right? Just by banning cigarettes and making ur number look better, and it’s also not gonna have the effect you believe it will
I smoked KOOL menthol cigarettes. When I wanted to quit smoking, I bought a few packs of Marlboro reds. It took me about a week and a half before I couldn’t stand them and quit completely. I was 26. Haven’t smoked another cigarette in the 36 years since. 🤷🏽♀️
They should encourage people to get onto any other form of nicotine consumption that isn't smoking. This alone will enourmously improve public health.
Nicotine sublingual would be an epic product.
@@azxde9266 isn’t that what nicotine gum is pretty much ?
Chew is gross 😝 I like grabba leaf wraps just to smell and hold onto.
@@desperadodeluxe2292 nicotine gum is supposed to be decent tasting and doesn’t cause any types of cancers, dip on the other hand 🤢🤮
@@alvarius4205 for sure. Although I'm not entirely against smoking it's been done by natives a long time with low cancer rates. It's not tobacco its the papers which literally have kerosene in them and other toxic chemicals. Also the additives. Better your habits folks. I smoke a pipe and good cigars.
Is it just me or do menthol cigarettes smell like cotton candy? When I was in college in the mid 2000's, there used to be a type of cigarettes some people smoked on campus, that smelled exactly like cotton candy. And I'd smelled that smell from people smoking, many other times before that too. (I'm talking about before vaping was a thing.) I thought it was just menthols. People always said they're supposed to be minty, but I thought they smelled like cotton candy. Was it just menthols they were smoking, or could it have been candy flavored cigarettes, I heard they had back then? One time I got out of my car and smelled it and thought, "oh those kids must be smoking over there again," but then I walked onto the campus that day and a student group actually was giving out free cotton candy for an event! lol
Just you
@@grapeseed427 Hhahahahah
I think you just like the smell of cigs it's ok
Kool and Camel made flavored cigarettes back then i think those are the ones you’re talking about cuz menthols smell like any other cigarette
@@saintsmaster3213 Yeah, I think I remember reading in a magazine that they were going to make flavored cigarettes, back then, but I never knew if they actually made them or if it was just an idea. I think it was an article about how controversial it was because it would get kids into smoking or something.
Overreach by the government.
I normally call BS on anything the government says concerning guns or tobacco but the menthol cigarettes are def. harder to quit.
Your consistency and quality of content never disappoints!
We learned none of the lessons from prohibition. It doesn’t work, it just increases social harm. This won’t save black youth, it’ll just put more of them
In jail. For friggin newports.
I remember Eric garner. I don’t want that happening all the time.
Yeah, legalize EVERYTHING'S, include fentanyl, opioid etc...
Big Companies would love it.
Also, gov should not spend any tax money to covers PEOPLE'S STUPID CHOICE...
From the research study "Impact of Canada’s menthol cigarette ban on quitting among menthol smokers: pooled analysis of pre-post evaluation from the ITC Project and the Ontario Menthol Ban Study and projections of impact in the USA"
Results: After the menthol cigarette ban, menthol smokers were more likely than non-menthol smokers to have quit smoking among daily smokers (difference=8.0%; 95% CI: 2.4% to 13.7%,p=0.005) and all (daily+non-daily) smokers (difference=7.3%; 95% CI: 2.1% to 12.5%,p=0.006). The projected number of smokers who would quit after a US menthol ban would be 789,724 daily smokers (including 199,732 African Americans) and 1,337,988 daily+non-daily smokers (including 381,272 African Americans).
Conclusions: This pooled analysis of Canada’s menthol cigarette ban provides the foundation for estimating the impact of menthol bans in the USA and other countries. Projections suggest that a US menthol cigarette ban would have a substantial impact on increasing quitting.
tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/early/2022/04/27/tobaccocontrol-2021-057227
Well then why not lift seatbelt laws
Everyone that wants to not wear a seatbelt still can
Why not lift the speedlimit?
Because we know a ban isn‘t 100% effective and that never really is the goal, it is just meant to reduce the number of people doing it
It also isn‘t really meant for people already smoking but rather trying to reduce the number of people starting
There also is a very similar alternative (non menthol cigs ) so there will be little to none blackmarket for them
@@maximiliandeisz2961
Newport’s are *the* cigarettes of choice in urban environments, they’re the single cigarettes *always* offered loose by bodegas cause the clientele are poor and can’t always afford packs. Black, white, brown, Asian, the common factor is that they’re poor and working class, that is, the group already most affected by racist and classist drug laws which put millions in jail and ruined millions more lives for nonsense like this.
You want everyone selling loosies to risk not just a fine but *jail time?*
I used to smoke. (Non menthols) but I live in a massive city that’s largely black.
I’ve had people ask me for cigarettes, which when I was smoking was sort of considered fair game, but as soon as they saw it wasn’t a Newport, they didn’t want it.
What happened when Mayor Bloomberg raised the price of nyc stamped cigarettes? Rampant cigarette trafficking became standard in the outer boroughs and among working people. Nobody buys nyc stamped cigarettes anymore. Because of that, counterfeiting became a problem, and the entire industry is now owned by organized crime.
Don’t you get it? We already have examples of how this backfired evident for all to see plain as day.
@@maximiliandeisz2961 newports and non newports are not the same
Why no country has banned cigarettes all together ?
Used mint vapes for a while so obviously not the exact same. But I found that most of the craving I had was for the mint, so gum made it pretty easy to quit.
But it was you who made that decision for yourself not the government.
"wow its like smoking brings ppl a little bit of joy and u get to take that away from them your my hero" eric cartman
The government has no right to tell us what we can or can't consume/do
If "government" doesn't govern you, it is not your government, you smart merican.
@@voregse427 you being satirical
tHe GovErNmEnT cAnT tELl mE wHat I cAN ConSumE *smokes meth*
Talk about menthol cigarettes when he's the one that legalized marijuana
Should be my body my choice and definitely shouldn't be because kids are smoking something they can't even buy
They should include pot since it’s more addicting.
I’m not a smoker but it puzzles me why those in government are so adamant about promoting the legalization of weed and yet want to ban tobacco.
because the government doesn't like adults making decisions for themselves. I'm not a smoker but this is insane. Cuomo tried this in NY but failed but did get a ban on flavored vape juice with nicotine in it. So what shops do now is sell nicotine packs that you add in later with the vape juice that
@@theplatypen1959 Thanks for your response. I’m for keeping tobacco out of the hands of minors but adults should be able to make their own decisions without the nanny state government interfering.
Because weed has never killed anyone
@@kabnoot You must be smoking something really strong. The tars and soot sucked into your lungs is much worse than tobacco. Pot heads will be in perpetual denial of weed’s negative effects.
@@Modeltnick i don't smoke weed i dab concentrate.
Sounds like lots of so-called war on drugs to me... How about legalizing drugs and criminalize cigarettes and alcohol!!!
No surprise, Biden's favorite thing to do
A menthol cigarette ban would disproportionately harm the black community more than any other. Instead of upstanding legal corporations selling the cigarette sticks, the criminals will take over and the black market will cripple afro society. Prohibition never works. It failed with alcohol. it'll fail on a grander scale with tobacco. We need regulation, not outright prohibition.
I don’t think a menthol ban would create any black market in the black community. It’s not a ban on cigarettes, it’s a ban on a flavor, and I don’t think banning a cigarette flavor will cripple an entire community.
Here in The Netherlands its already been banned for couples of years now
Lol I started smoking camel crushes smh I got addicted I'm 25 now I don't smoke anymore I regret ever tbh
The FDA is a joke. Doing this will only accomplish one thing and that is extreme prejudice against FDA employees.
The FDA needs to stop pretending like they care about peoples health. If they really cared then why are alcohol and tobacco accepted in society? How many have died from tobacco and alcohol?
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 its shere hypocrisy . . .
Ahh yes, good old government stepping in to tell people what they can smoke.
@That V8 Life People need to be allowed to live their lives even if they make bad decisions doing it. Cigarettes and alcohol and all other "sin" stocks/companies are fine and so are their products. I don't drink or smoke because it's bad for you but i support others "need" to do things that are bad for them as long as they are willing to live with the consequences and the taxpayer is not forced to be on the hook for their stupidity. THAT is what is wrong with everything, no one wants to have any self accountability for their bad decisions, they want everyone else to fix it for them or blame everyone and anyone else but themselves for their own bad decisions.
@@rd9102
Well, the good news is that smokers save you money. Bad news is since non-smokers live longer, not only do non-smokers cost us more overall in healthcare costs, but they get more money out of social security from all those extra years of living. And in fact people are living so long now that the ones that live past the average are actually getting out more than they paid in.
So smoker saved us all kinds of money. just imagine the increased health care costs and Social security expenditures if millions upon millions of people suddenly lived many many years longer.
I would give a link, but RUclips has been deleting post with links like crazy lately. So I'll give you all the information you need to easily find it.
It's a PubMed article. The title of the page is:
"Lifetime medical expenditures of smokers and nonsmokers"
"Results: The results showed that although smokers had generally higher annual medical expenditures than nonsmokers, the former's lifetime medical expenditure was slightly lower than the latter's because of a shorter life expectancy that resulted from a higher mortality rate. Sensitivity analyses did not reverse the order of the two lifetime medical expenditures. "
@That V8 Life I have no problem with Alcohol, people need to be allowed to have that as well as cigarettes. The governments think that people won't smoke because something becomes "illegal" or regulated and to an extent that is true but it's not an absolute and that should be obvious with what happened during prohibition but it seems we are going to be partially doomed to relearn that lesson. As a libertarian i have no problem with people doing what they want as long as they are prepared for the consequences and the government (the taxpayer) is not stuck with the bill for their stupidity. NO ONE including the government can stop people from making stupid decisions but it also can't be responsible for cleaning up the stupidity either.
Imagine defending cigarettes 💀💀💀
@@-Teca- Imagine not defending individual rights and liberties because you want the Government to hold your hand at every turn in life and are unable to make a smart decision on your own.
I don't even smoke cigarettes, but I know that Newports are by far the best quality in case of cigarettes. I only smoke like one or two cigarettes a year but when I do it's a Newport or a Marlboro light.
I kinda miss smoking and vaping but I don't regret quitting cold turkey.
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