** EcoFlow has listened to our feedback regarding the D3P. After some back and forth, they deemed our unit to be Faulty. They sent a replacement, and so far the replacement seems to be working as expected** 🛒 EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus: • Shop Solar: shopsolarkits.com/products/ecoflow-delta-3-plus?ref=TheSolarLab&variant=43417425379468 • Use Code: THESOLARLAB25 for $25 Off Your Order • EcoFlow: shrsl.com/4pv5a • Use Code: THESOLARLAB05 for 5% Off Your Order 🛒 We Also Recommend Shopping at: • Signature Solar: signaturesolar.com/?ref=thesolarlab • Use Code: THESOLARLAB50 for $50 Off Your Order ☀Get a Free Solar Estimate for Your Home: www.solar-estimate.org/solar-calculator?aff=207512&cam=750 🔔 Subscribe to our RUclips Channel: @TheSolarLab 0:00 - Intro 1:20 - Spec Teardown 1:30 - 2 Minute Spec Teardown 3:41 - Testing 7:28 - What We Like 10:04 - What We Don't Like... 12:40 - Summary The EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus is a new portable power station that EcoFlow just released. We were super excited to get this thing, and it performed really well. However, there was one big thing that we didn't like about this unit and we hope that EcoFlow addresses it ASAP. Regardless, we think the unit is a great option for either portable power or emergency back up situations. ** EcoFlow has listened to our feedback regarding the D3P overheating and is actively working on improving the issue.** ⚡ FOLLOW US: instagram.com/thesolarlab/ www.tiktok.com/@thesolarlab 👨🏼💻 The Solar Lab: www.thesolarlab.com We maintain an affiliate relationship with some of the products reviewed, which means we get a small percentage of a sale if you click our links, at no cost to our viewers.
I'm having difficulties with my Delta Pro 3 and have shut it off for hours at a time as recommended by customer service. I'm still getting errors, and now they want me to send it back for a refurbished unit. which could take weeks. My advice is to look elsewhere since EcoFlow seems to be having many issues with their products.
I'm w/ you. Really made me lose faith in several of those youtubers (for me, seeing J.R. bought and paid for was especially painful). And most of the youtube's also go on about the useless App. AND these guys talk frankly about Ecoflow's having almost predatory pricing on their solar panels.
Just an FYI…Just purchased the Ecoflow Delta 3 Plus with the intent of using the battery backup to run computers during the day. I had an issue with the system not charging properly. Called the Ecoflow tech support. They ran through some diagnostics and were very helpful. However they couldn’t solve the issue and had to escalate to the next tech support level. They then told me that Ecoflow would access my unit sometime in the next 24-48 hours. All well and good, but they can access your unit _anytime_ they want without your knowledge. If you have the system on your WiFi, then it could give them a back door to your WiFi network. I’m usually very generous with tech issues, and have been happy with the system overall, but this presents a serious security issue. Be sure that you research the company origin and make an informed decision on whether you want to potentially open up your network. They do have a Bluetooth option as well and you need the system connected to WiFi or Bluetooth use the app, which is how you control the system
Ok so you need to understand that all teck companies can do this, it's in the fine print that most don't read. All computers have a back door, and they told you that because you have them permission I have freaked out about that as well but main thing is fear is the problem Our government spies all day long on all it's people Even a phone turned off isn't off They.... Are always listening So be not afraid be smart and be good
I like the two separate solar inputs. If you install it in a truck then you can have 500 watts of solar and the alternator hooked up for an additional 200 Watts without having to mess around with it. Having two allows it to have two separate voltages coming in.
Between this review of the fans and Hobo's test on the idle power consumption I just cancelled my Amazon order for this unit (was arriving in January!!!!!!) Can't chance it. Thanks for the review!
About the dual solar inputs that you can't understand, consider that not everybody has the space or means or desire to combine all their solar panels into one mega array. Some people have panels that can't combine without risking damage to them. Some people might have one array on one side and another one with different voltages on another side to catch sun at different angles. Maybe somebody is using one port for solar, and the other port for a 12v car power to xt60 to charge their battery. Maybe one port they're using for solar, and the other port their have connected to a micro hydro generator. Maybe they've connected a small generator to a stationary bike or treadmill and they're using that to exercise while filling their battery with one port, and the other for some other source. There are so many reasons somebody may want dual solar inputs. The X-Boost "fake news" stuff is really just you not understanding that other people do different things than you do. Not everybody needs to use their battery to charge laptops and phones and stuff. Some people use this to run well and sump pumps during emergencies, or run power tools out on a job site or when they just don't want to run cables across their yard while building a shed or whatever. Some people might want to power an hot plate while simultaneously making coffee while camping. If you don't want to use the features, then don't use them. But that doesn't mean other people won't find those features incredibly useful. Don't be so simple minded.
I would find chastising the only person that I've seen point out a serious problem with the device. Simple minded. You are right. But there's a wrong way to be right.
@@derrickboatman1560 I'm not sure what him rightfully pointing out an overheating issue has to do with him also being too simple to understand that some people use features of this device in ways that he can't comprehend.
Yup. Dual input suits my needs more than a single input of identical wattage would. I live near many exceptionally large pine trees and sun is spotty in the mornings/evenings/winter. A single large array would produce less for me than multiple smaller arrays due to shading. If I lived somewhere else with the space and sunlight to set up a 1000-1200 watt array, the single port would be more convenient. The dual inputs is part of what sold me on Ecoflow compared to the other competing brands.
@@Locke99GS You brought up some great points - several that I hadn't thought of. For the sake of helping the content creator out perhaps you could have put yourself in his young shoes. Some of us don't absorb constructive criticism as well as we'd like to when it seems to be piled on? It is possible that it could be better received if given in a more respectful manner. I think that's all @derrickboatman1560 was tryng to say.
Years ago before I found utube. I started buying equipment for solar my first solar panel was 75 watts and included a pwm charge controller its good for keeping the 12 volt cat battery charged the second attempt was 2x100 watt panels and a 30 amp pwm charge controller with 2 cat batteries then I found utube and found that it was all wrong so I started trying to rectify the problem first my 1750 modified sine wave inverter at first I looked into these solar generator way too exs so I looked for cheaper looked nature's generator but it too was designed to need new lead acid batteries every year it was sold by lows and rona so no sky-high shipping charges but with utube I knew proper charge peramiters and they were all wrong and the pwm charge controller took 2 days to charge from 10,8 to 12 volts allso look at Duracell same thing but it was 1440watt modified sine wave but I found a second review that told how to get modified sine wave to pure a triplite 1800lc line conditioner at 98 dollars it would be a great way to use my 1750 watt inverters our dollar made the price increase to138 not bad for being able to use my inverters but shipping added at the end was almost 400 dollars I could get a 3 thousand watt pure sine for that price or a little bit more so that was out but then princess auto brought out a battery box had 2 thousand watt pure sine wave inverter a fairly decent mppt charge controller found it actuality had 2 they also had 120 watt folding solar panels on sale at a reasonable price so I bought 2 I plan on both sets in series one set will be 100 watt 24 volt and the other will be 110 watts 24 volts since it has 2 controllers I can plug each in to their own controller and get max wattage the only thing that would have been better is to find a proper review of the Evergear power box but since they don't give one free to the big reviewers nobody will do a review of their product as long as there is no reveiws they won't make it better and I have no idea if it can actually put out 2000 watts of pure sine
When you ran the capacity test maybe don't have the heat source right next to the unit that is blowing the hot air right inside whereas it is intended to take in air that will cool the device, not warm it. No wonder it overheated??
You can definitely hear the Delta 2 running! It is quite noisy! A good find about the quietness as virtually all the other RUclipsrs only test rated power for 15 minutes and thus this problem wouldn't show up!
I had 2 Delta Pro 3 ( DP3 ) units running in parallel with their 50 AMP hub bridge. One of the units was defective and caused a tremendous power surge which fried my HVAC thermostat and ECU, coffee maker, Air Purifier, GFCI outlets, and over a dozen outlet surge protectors and damaged twp. 200 AMP breaker panels. The damages have run into the thousands. One electrician who inspected my system told me that one of his customers had a similar problem with his EF Ultra except that he didn't have the unit hooked up to the home. I like the EF Delta 2 Max batteries, but the EF DP3 and the 50 AMP bridge is dangerous.
No if it's portable a light is not an unreasonable ask and he only gives it a bonus point for having one anyways. I just got a smaller Anker Solix DC to charge phones at 140 watts and the light was the deciding factor. Let there be light even a small one!
The main thing I don't like about this unit is the 40w parasitic draw on the inverter. Several reviewers have tried to dismiss this as standard for that size inverter, but it's not! The Bluetti AC200L 2400w inverter uses 13.5w and the Pecron E3600 3,600w inverter only uses 30w. 40 watts is very high for an 1,800 watt inverter. And paired with the smallish 1kwh battery, it's gonna use up a lot of power on nothing. If you turn on the AC inverter (with nothing plugged in) and leave it 24 hours, it will drain nearly the entire battery.
I wish All the Power station makers would publish the parasitic power draw of the inverter. i had to Email Bluetti to find out the value for the AC70, it is 15W.
Are you talking about 'parasitic draw' as when the inverter is in standby just sitting with no load, or inverter inefficiency where an 1800 peak wattage claim is actually 1440W with 80% inefficiency.
The HSN was having a big promotion on the Delta 2 about 3 weeks ago until they sold out. I think the are now selling the Delta 1300 for $650, it’s an older model, it’s just like the D2 but without the WiFi feature.
Loved the video. I appreciate you pointing out the shortcomings it has and will wait buying it. Anyway I have plenty of first generation and second generation units to keep me going while they fix this. Thank you for sharing your information.
Enjoyed your review. I own a Delta Mini and Delta 2, both of which have served me very well. I also own a Bluetti. I ordered the Delta 3 Plus, which has basically the same stats as the Delta 2. The additional cost is for the UPS, plus (hopefully) the better fan setup. The way I pack the Delta Mini in my car, the fans are on the side, so I have to be careful. The fans on the end will hopefully work better. I look forward to having quieter fans, since the unit runs my car refrigerator (in my camping Prius) and fan noise wakes me up. I have a light on my Bluetti, but never use it, so don't miss not having a light on the EcoFlow units.
thanks for the review and thanks especially for pointing out such a key shortcoming that not a single other reviewer (mostly sponsored) has mentioned. Ecoflow's sponsored videos are making me doubt some creators, several of which I'm a long term fan (JR I'm looking at you...). Some go so far as to delete comments that ask even mild questions or maybe ask for matching (perhaps sponsored) videos for Anker or some of the other key players. I've watched the comments disappear and had a couple of mine get deleted. On channels that I thought were honest and straight-forward. Very disappointing. I'm still doubtful of Ecoflow but perhaps my previous experience w/ them is an outlier and their equipment has certainly improved over the years.
I ordered one of these along with the alternator charger back on Oct. 1st. Got both for like $850. Hopefully they ship soon, I'm really looking forward to using it yet this year. I also recently purchased their Glacier fridge unit and can already tell its a battery killer. Lol. At 38 degrees in fridge only mode and with no ice making it will run about 34 hours.
As much as I miss seeing you work on your cars and fabricating some of the nicest cars on RUclips, I have found that I just enjoy watching you doing my whatever you do! I love solar and I love learning all of the small nitty gritty details from you! Happy to see you, and stay committed🫶🏻‼️
The storm guard feature is actually super cool and useful. Say you have it always plugged in (UPS style setup) but set it to only ever charge up to 80% capacity to preserve lifespan. Once a storm is detected as coming your way, it disables discharging (if you happened to be doing that at the time by disabling grid bypass) and starts charging at the highest rate (regardless what you set it to before) until it's full and then returns to your settings once the storm warning is over. More importantly, I came here to see if this issue actually got solved / if the software got an update. Any one?
X-Boost is not fake, it literally tells you what it is for, it is for AC devices that have start up surges, like AC Sump Pumps, drills etc anything with a motor that initially requires more wattage for a few split seconds. Also the spec sheet for the Eco Delta Flow 3 is up to 3600W as long as it is for a single device.. nothing fake about it..
I also have a Delta 3+ and the exact same issue. This really sucks as Ecoflow support say they have to replace the unit but they do not have stock right now and stock might only be available end of November. Seems that it cannot be fixed through a firmware update.
Just got mine(nov 22), delayed from being out of stock, no fan issue, perhaps they were ‘out of stock’ to fix the issue in existing units? Seems like a huge oversight though
If you want LFP batteries, it's going to weigh more. This isn't an EcoFlow problem, it's the price of getting a large cycle count and a good price. The whole industry is going to LFP. I guess buyers want their power stations to have a long life more than they want them to be light. Don't hurt your backs, folks!
Two solar input ports is actually a really good thing, even if you don't use them for solar. A single 12v battery could have two pairs of wires, one pair tfor each "solar" port. Now rather than having being limited to 180 watt input (12v x 13 amps) you can have two 180 watt (12v x 13 amps) inputs, so 360 watts from a single 12v battery. No need for a clunky voltage booster, just two pairs of wires from a single 12v battery.
@@aday1637 You could certainly get a battery and an inverter, but there is a big difference between a portable power station and just a battery with an inverter. A power station has the battery, large AC inverter, multiple USB ports both C and A type, UPS type capability, and an AC charger, a solar charge controller a very sophisticated battery monitor and an app to monitor and control it all remotely. And it's all built into a single well designed fully integrated package. So yes a power station costs more, but it does much much more. Adding an external external battery to a power station provides all the above features, but adds more capacity at a very low additional cost.
Have you tried this scenario? I'm thinking of getting this unit for furnace backup, especially for the 2 solar ports, so I can run 12V batteries to extend the discharge time. Initially I was thinking of using 2 x 12V batteries on each xt60 input, but then I thought about the exact same scenario you mentioned. In theory, a 12V 100Ah battery with split output would work, as it will only draw a max of 30A, which it should handle. Just curious if anyone ran this scenario and how the battery handled the draw over hours of use (any overheating?)
Yeah he and his fans are big "just DIY it bro"-bros. Yeah I know I could get 6000w and 5kwh for what I paid for my Bluetti system over the years. I also know I'd end up with a mismatched conglomeration of cables nailed to wooden boards on a trolley. Some of us just want a device we can take out of the box and use.
I have our starlink on UPS via the river 3 and computer setup on UPS via the D3+. That way when we have power surge or short term power outages, our stream/internet stays active. For that use, these things are great!
This looks interesting. Would be great to get confirmation that the overheating issue is resolved. I notice in Hobotech's load test he's amazed at how quiet his was. I assume his would have overheated if he did a 30 minute test instead of a 5 minute test.
I got mine during the B.F. sell, it was $1,099.00, It came with a nice leather carrying bag and two 220w new gen panels. I used my eco credits and got $200.00 off coupon and it dropped the price to $899.00. I think I got a steal of a deal, those panels alone on sell are $350.00 each, I got them for $125.00 each -$650 for power station.
Has EcoFlow updated their firmware regarding the fan issue yet? i'm waiting for confirmation of that before I invest in the purchase of one of these units. Thanks
I've noticed overheating issues on several of my power stations and inverters, all different brands... but it seems that vendors prioritize making units quieter rather than making units robust. Heat isn't good for power electronics, even when in-spec. I far prefer that the fans be running all the time at low levels and ramp up and down slowly as needed. Cycling of fans is far more annoying than having a continuous fan. I see this issue on little car inverters, more serious inverters, and several power stations. I have an Oukitel (same OEM as FFPower) P2001 whos fan is very quiet, but doesn't run fast enough at medium loads and the unit overheats and shutsdown (doesn't happen at high loads, the fan is going full blast, but medium loads... it overheats). I have a little "300W" pure sine wave car inverter that lets its internal FETs exceed 100C (212F) before it turns on its fan, which is just plain stupid. And I have a number of WZRELB inverters whos fans aren't variable speed and cycle off and on all the time which is really annoying. I've wound up opening up all of these units and hacking the fans. Either soldering a resistor in parallel with the temperature sensor contacts (3K to 10K depending, which makes the unit think it is hotter than it is and forces it to turn its fan on sooner), or literally locating 12VDC on their circuit boards and adding a super-quiet always-on fan in addition to the existing fans... which does a good job preventing the official fans from cycling on and off. -Matt
I think they've also reduced the sizes of the heat sinks just to make it lighter (for marketing purposes or to cut down the manufacturing costs) which is not good for efficient heat dissipation.
Don’t expect this anytime soon if you do purchase directly from Ecoflow. My preorder for one at the end of September stated shipping in early October. Nope. At the time of this comment it’s October 20th. The current listing for a delta 3+ on their site says preorder now for shipping in mid November. If they were meeting the previous orders I could see that getting pushed due to volume with how much they are pushing these things, but looks like we are all going to be waiting on the same shipping containers to show up.
I been in the market for one of these because my neighborhood's power grid is absolute doo doo beans and goes out every summer after a storm. Happened 4 summers in a row and i'm tired of having to call off work (work from home) because our grid stinks. So I did some digging and because our phone's spy on everything we do, I got an HSN ad for this unit. For a grand total of $650, you get the EcoFlow Delta 3 Power Station with 160W Solar Panel and Hand Truck. I priced each one of these items individually and its WAY more than that. I'm about 90% sure i'm gonna buy it as I would only need to power my router, charge some devices, and maybe connect a TV or indoor AC unit. Any input from current owners would be appreciated. 👍
I have one. It would be great except for two problems. It overheats in 30 minutes if you charge or discharge over 1000 watts. Also the inverter is a energy pig. It uses about 40 watts a hour. If you left it on, with ac inverter on, battery will go dead in about a day. If you can live with that, then it is good.
Yeah, I posted the overheating issue to EcoFlow's Reddit community. EcoFlow told me not to fast charge the unit before draining it. It's BS for sure. Not sure I've noticed the fans slowing down under heavy load vs light load. They just don't spin very fast in general. Once it overheats it doesn't want to do anything and doesn't want to spin its fans. Some are speculating that the firmware is deliberately set to run the fans low until all of the reviewers are done reviewing it. When the reviews are done they'll increase the fan speed (and noise).
Crazy talk, the firmware rollout to correct this would be nutty $$ on the OEM not to mention negative hammering from said reviewers and owners. Nope. They wanted to make her quiet and it's super quiet when she thermals out.
@@g-mo961 That makes little sense. if he could hear the louder fan noises, that means the unit is capable of spinning the fans faster... Why it slows down on higher loads, this is a mistake to be sure. Someone inversed the operation.
@@TheSolarLab between Anker c1000 and delta 3, if you would need to purchase one, which one would you buy. Thanks. given all the information as of today.
@@TheSolarLab - Thanks. Between the overheating and the parasitic draw, I'm going to pass on this one and consider the Bluetti Elite 200 V2. It's much more money but it's also much more power and with minimal parasitic draw.
@@mikezhengccAnker is much better, lighter and have light 👍 Also profile is more convenient. I have both of them, Anker is in use for 95% of the time...
60 seconds at 2600w is pretty good. That basically let's you have a microwave and a coffee machine or fridge running simultaneously and most likely not trip. Im looking for something to supplement my ioniq 5 V2L, which trips the instant you touch 1800w. This means I don't need to step up to a big boy unit!
The 2 coffee pots and microwave I own need to run for much longer than 60 sec. More like 6 mins for a full pot which the D3+ does fine. I just can't get it to power both before overload kicks in. That's with xboost on.
@@TheSolarLab So what is the temperature of your new unit after a full discharge at 1500 watts? Also what is the temperature when charging from Zero to full at 1500 watts? My DP+ gets over 120 degrees doing a full discharge at 1500 watts in a 68 degree room. I am trying to determine if my DP3+ is defective.
Annoying fan behavior is the worst. The Delta 2 is the opposite where its fans are like full tilt obnoxious/annoying at anything over about 400W. Seems like they went full tilt in the opposite direction chasing silence. I want the Delta 3 Plus for this silence, but not at the expense of an overheading unit. I hope they fix the apparent on/off low/idle cycling behavior of the fan too.
I have ordered three of these. The only item received so far is one of free bags they come with which I dont want or need. Tic Toc.....will there be a Delta 3 battery?
I don't think this can be fixed with an update, I had a 1000 CFM vornado fan pointed right in the intake of this device and it still sat around at over 124F while only pushing ~300 watts. As well as went into overheated shutdown at 135F when it starts to charge back up via the smart generator. I had to babysit this unit while out of power for 5 days after hurricane Milton. I resorted to trying to rub ice on the sides, but this thing doesn't even dissipate heat using the encloser it's in which I think is a stupid design. I got ecoflow to replace my unit but I'm just going to get the same issue with the new one :/
How sad to know this. I am actually planning to buy one. And as a coder, I still believe that it can be fixed with an update, everything inside is interacting with the firmware. But if only the ecoflow engineers would listen to its customers to resolved this issue. They should release an update asap. And if the heating problem still exists then there's really a major design flaw. I would not consider buying that anymore.
@@djharml3ss it can't be fixed with an update. the batteries are sealed and there's no battery fan. the batteries can only passively cool. the only fan in the unit is for the inverter. this is a fundamental design limitation of the hardware. they would have to go back and change the battery pack to a different design and add more fans.
FYI 150F is not hot! that's 65c. I would worry when it goes over 90c ie 194F. However going into thermal shutdown is not good. If the fan can ramp up then it should
Question! You mentioned that you can duel charge this unit with both ac power and solar at the same time which does surprise me. What I want to know is can you program the unit to use ac only under certian conditions. For example if the battery reaches 20% charge, turn on the ac to charge it back up. If over 75%, turn off ac and rely on solar only. Or after sunset, turn on ac to charge the unit or a certian time when power is cheaper?
Appreciate this straight forward video. Brutally honest reviews are very helpful too many RUclips vids are bought and paid for wearing lab coats and gloves. Do you know if this fan issue has been rectified yet? Got a d3+ coming next month and watching closely on this cooling problem. Heat is very destructive on battery and electronics. My other deltas perform well. The fan noise isn’t that bad and sounds like masking white noise.
I was thinking about getting the EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus with the DC2DC alternator charger. But if they only have one expansion port, can you still add the 5000WH battery expansion?
Home Shopping Network is selling this for$529 right now with a hand truck. Not sure if it's a "plus" or not though....I'm afraid it may be a stripped down version.
Is there any way to use an EG4LL as an expansion battery? I always hate being held hostage in a proprietary ecosystem. Thanks. Great review, as always. 🙂
@@bigtom4709 but isn't that just to fill up the internal battery through the solar DC in? I'm really leaning to the EG4 3K inverter and the LL battery. It's heavy, but can work with any combo of solar panels/ battery/ inverter
@@bigtom4709 it just seems like the 5kW server rack batteries are a good standard to build on. They are portable at 100lbs and the prices are great. I just want to focus on building battery capacity over time- with 5kW server rack LFPs. And then use them in different flexible systems. So I then need flexible (not proprietary) inputs like solar, alternator, generator etc, and flexible output with an inverter that's compatible with the 5kW battery. I like the small form factor of some of the power stations, but I'd really like to just Daisy chain my 5kW LFP for extra capacity. Say, for camping. Thanks for the feedback.
@@rosalieroku3818... The power stations like the Delta 3 are kinda all inclusive (i.e. inverter, charge controller etc.) They just have relatively small capacity. Pairing with a 5KW server rack battery definitely makes them phenomenal. I mean it's FIVE times the battery capacity ... and exchangable. Run your 1800 watt invertered 6 KW system while your second 5KW battery is off some where else charging or hell charging through your power station whenever you've got shore power.
Overall, very good review! To be honest, I prefer to have at least 2 Receptacles in the back as well. Sorry to hear about the over-heating issue. Hopefully they solve it, but, my worry is that in solving it, they possibly lose performance. Please retest soon. I disagree that having the 3 x 2 prong receptacles offers more versatility. Actually, it is LESS versatility, they SHOULD have a ground prong. And there is zero reason not to include one on ALL receptacles. If they need room, they need to add the room, or rotate the receptacles. Anyone can cover all the receptacles with a power-brick that is oversized, so that point is not really useful. Thanks for the review.
You read my mind. Imma need one 2-prong and one 3-prong in the front ... The rest can be in the back where you won't plug and unplug then as frequently.
One thing for sure I can say as an owner of an ecoflow pro and 3 of their bifacial gen 2 foldable panels, is their customer service is horrendous. Awful. Rude. Inefficient. I am also fully deaf in one ear and losing the hearing in my right and refused to provide even the most reasonable accommodations, as the ADA call for, to assist me in the myriad of issues I was having with a 2nd ecoflow pro I had acquired, was bad, had to send back and have since failed to replace.... Just terrible.
Sorry to hear about your experience. This is why we sometimes recommend buying EcoFlow units from a distributor like Shop Solar. They have solid customer service & handle any warranty issues.
I have a delta 2 with extra battery plus a river 2 max. I also have 2x 220 watt panels and 1x110 watt panels for about 3 years total now with good usage and i have had zero issues
Its cool that they replaced his but for the common man its pretty well documented that the customer service is very poor. As a firefighter these units scare me, seems like a great way to burn down your house.
I suppose one could work around the fan not staying on with a whisper quiet usb fan duct taped to the vent 🩹 at least until they update the firmware - if you actually are going to drive it to the limit.
I bought one on Black Friday. When charged and in use it has a nasty odor like burning lubricant. Is this normal? This is my very first purchase of a solar power station so I’m not familiar with the ins and outs of how these are supposed to function properly.
It does get very hot. I have a new D3 Plus. How hot is too hot for it to be? I charged the unit and let it sit overnight. The next day I did a 1000 watt discharge to empty. It took 52 minutes. When I checked the temperature it was 122 degrees. When I charge it, the D3+ also gets very hot anywhere from 110 to 125 degrees. I currently have a charge rate at 1000 watts just to test it out. I will normally charge at around 500 watts or so. My home is 67 degrees. I cannot imagine how the unit would get in the summertime. Can it be damaged by getting this hot? As a side note: No matter how hot it gets you can barely hear the fan. The EF manual says to not store it above 113 degrees. This is way hotter than that.
they deemed our unit as faulty & sent us another one.. the fans act completely differently on the new one. So far it hasn't overheated or had any of the same issues! We will ad an update to the video so everyone else knows, thanks for the reminder!
@@TheSolarLab question.. I'm purchasing mine to take out of the country (Cuba), where there’s no internet. Unfortunately, I won’t have the chance to test the device before shipping or check if it needs any updates or new firmware. Do these devices typically require a firmware update right after purchase? or would you advise to wait longer to ship & make sure all is good before shipping?Thanks in advance for your help!
Hey there! Yes, the article is live: www.thesolarlab.com/reviews/ecoflow-delta-3-plus We will be making improvements to our website in the near future as well :)
No attached lighting is a valid point, X-boost criticism is not. Yes, it's marketing but they are very clear with the intent of the feature. Heating is a major issue indeed. I'm waiting for the Delta 3 Max if there is in the future for the 2kWH native capacity and two battery ports where PowerStream/alternator charger and an extra battery can be connected at the same time.
Good grief, buy a 5-watt 12V LED dome lamp, add a 6' cord, and solder a barrel connector on it. When you turn on the thing, plug in the lamp and select DC. Light up the whole zone for $11.00.
Me... This guy looks like robbie... Wait a second... Will this battery bankk fit my EG 😂😂😂, sup Robbie still rocking my commited crew eg sticker on my water bottle 🔥
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0:00 - Intro
1:20 - Spec Teardown
1:30 - 2 Minute Spec Teardown
3:41 - Testing
7:28 - What We Like
10:04 - What We Don't Like...
12:40 - Summary
The EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus is a new portable power station that EcoFlow just released. We were super excited to get this thing, and it performed really well. However, there was one big thing that we didn't like about this unit and we hope that EcoFlow addresses it ASAP. Regardless, we think the unit is a great option for either portable power or emergency back up situations.
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Is the 1800 watt eco flow 2 better ?
I'm having difficulties with my Delta Pro 3 and have shut it off for hours at a time as recommended by customer service. I'm still getting errors, and now they want me to send it back for a refurbished unit. which could take weeks. My advice is to look elsewhere since EcoFlow seems to be having many issues with their products.
it’s crazy that from all the hundreds of youtubers who got these units for free to fake review them …you are the only one to point this problem
That's why I trust him. 👍🏽
they are all fake. this vid is fake as well.
@@turner02everything really is
I'm w/ you. Really made me lose faith in several of those youtubers (for me, seeing J.R. bought and paid for was especially painful). And most of the youtube's also go on about the useless App. AND these guys talk frankly about Ecoflow's having almost predatory pricing on their solar panels.
The unit is probably broken not a systemic problem it seems like the pwm fan control is backwards somehow.
Just an FYI…Just purchased the Ecoflow Delta 3 Plus with the intent of using the battery backup to run computers during the day. I had an issue with the system not charging properly. Called the Ecoflow tech support. They ran through some diagnostics and were very helpful. However they couldn’t solve the issue and had to escalate to the next tech support level. They then told me that Ecoflow would access my unit sometime in the next 24-48 hours. All well and good, but they can access your unit _anytime_ they want without your knowledge. If you have the system on your WiFi, then it could give them a back door to your WiFi network. I’m usually very generous with tech issues, and have been happy with the system overall, but this presents a serious security issue. Be sure that you research the company origin and make an informed decision on whether you want to potentially open up your network. They do have a Bluetooth option as well and you need the system connected to WiFi or Bluetooth use the app, which is how you control the system
Scary stuff.... Imma hafta opt out on ever owning any of that type stuff... going forward, are not those all made in CCPland?
I work in IT, it doesn't work that way, stop fear mongering.
Ok so you need to understand that all teck companies can do this, it's in the fine print that most don't read. All computers have a back door, and they told you that because you have them permission
I have freaked out about that as well but main thing is fear is the problem
Our government spies all day long on all it's people
Even a phone turned off isn't off
They.... Are always listening
So be not afraid be smart and be good
You should raise that concern to NSA and CIA
@@JLu20 your other option you have is made in the USA aka controlled by the jew's....better off with the CCP
I like the two separate solar inputs. If you install it in a truck then you can have 500 watts of solar and the alternator hooked up for an additional 200 Watts without having to mess around with it. Having two allows it to have two separate voltages coming in.
If you connect an alternator output to an MPPT input then it will not work correctly, because the voltage will be too low.
7:06 - Two solar inputs allow two independent panels, allowing you to optimize placement. Works for me!
1 month later, has the over heating / fan problem been resolved, thank you great vid I'll buy when
Great Question i wonder if we will get an answer?
@@deutschmanxspike can't you read the pinned comment?
Between this review of the fans and Hobo's test on the idle power consumption I just cancelled my Amazon order for this unit (was arriving in January!!!!!!) Can't chance it. Thanks for the review!
About the dual solar inputs that you can't understand, consider that not everybody has the space or means or desire to combine all their solar panels into one mega array. Some people have panels that can't combine without risking damage to them. Some people might have one array on one side and another one with different voltages on another side to catch sun at different angles. Maybe somebody is using one port for solar, and the other port for a 12v car power to xt60 to charge their battery. Maybe one port they're using for solar, and the other port their have connected to a micro hydro generator. Maybe they've connected a small generator to a stationary bike or treadmill and they're using that to exercise while filling their battery with one port, and the other for some other source. There are so many reasons somebody may want dual solar inputs.
The X-Boost "fake news" stuff is really just you not understanding that other people do different things than you do. Not everybody needs to use their battery to charge laptops and phones and stuff. Some people use this to run well and sump pumps during emergencies, or run power tools out on a job site or when they just don't want to run cables across their yard while building a shed or whatever. Some people might want to power an hot plate while simultaneously making coffee while camping.
If you don't want to use the features, then don't use them. But that doesn't mean other people won't find those features incredibly useful.
Don't be so simple minded.
I would find chastising the only person that I've seen point out a serious problem with the device. Simple minded. You are right. But there's a wrong way to be right.
@@derrickboatman1560 I'm not sure what him rightfully pointing out an overheating issue has to do with him also being too simple to understand that some people use features of this device in ways that he can't comprehend.
Yup. Dual input suits my needs more than a single input of identical wattage would. I live near many exceptionally large pine trees and sun is spotty in the mornings/evenings/winter. A single large array would produce less for me than multiple smaller arrays due to shading.
If I lived somewhere else with the space and sunlight to set up a 1000-1200 watt array, the single port would be more convenient.
The dual inputs is part of what sold me on Ecoflow compared to the other competing brands.
@@Locke99GS You brought up some great points - several that I hadn't thought of. For the sake of helping the content creator out perhaps you could have put yourself in his young shoes. Some of us don't absorb constructive criticism as well as we'd like to when it seems to be piled on? It is possible that it could be better received if given in a more respectful manner. I think that's all @derrickboatman1560 was tryng to say.
Years ago before I found utube. I started buying equipment for solar my first solar panel was 75 watts and included a pwm charge controller its good for keeping the 12 volt cat battery charged the second attempt was 2x100 watt panels and a 30 amp pwm charge controller with 2 cat batteries then I found utube and found that it was all wrong so I started trying to rectify the problem first my 1750 modified sine wave inverter at first I looked into these solar generator way too exs so I looked for cheaper looked nature's generator but it too was designed to need new lead acid batteries every year it was sold by lows and rona so no sky-high shipping charges but with utube I knew proper charge peramiters and they were all wrong and the pwm charge controller took 2 days to charge from 10,8 to 12 volts allso look at Duracell same thing but it was 1440watt modified sine wave but I found a second review that told how to get modified sine wave to pure a triplite 1800lc line conditioner at 98 dollars it would be a great way to use my 1750 watt inverters our dollar made the price increase to138 not bad for being able to use my inverters but shipping added at the end was almost 400 dollars I could get a 3 thousand watt pure sine for that price or a little bit more so that was out but then princess auto brought out a battery box had 2 thousand watt pure sine wave inverter a fairly decent mppt charge controller found it actuality had 2 they also had 120 watt folding solar panels on sale at a reasonable price so I bought 2 I plan on both sets in series one set will be 100 watt 24 volt and the other will be 110 watts 24 volts since it has 2 controllers I can plug each in to their own controller and get max wattage the only thing that would have been better is to find a proper review of the Evergear power box but since they don't give one free to the big reviewers nobody will do a review of their product as long as there is no reveiws they won't make it better and I have no idea if it can actually put out 2000 watts of pure sine
X-boost isn't fake, it's handy for resistive loads.
What is a resistive load?
@@oysterman_8833 Mostly heaters and things that produce heat.
When you ran the capacity test maybe don't have the heat source right next to the unit that is blowing the hot air right inside whereas it is intended to take in air that will cool the device, not warm it. No wonder it overheated??
You can definitely hear the Delta 2 running! It is quite noisy! A good find about the quietness as virtually all the other RUclipsrs only test rated power for 15 minutes and thus this problem wouldn't show up!
I had 2 Delta Pro 3 ( DP3 ) units running in parallel with their 50 AMP hub bridge. One of the units was defective and caused a tremendous power surge which fried my HVAC thermostat and ECU, coffee maker, Air Purifier, GFCI outlets, and over a dozen outlet surge protectors and damaged twp. 200 AMP breaker panels. The damages have run into the thousands. One electrician who inspected my system told me that one of his customers had a similar problem with his EF Ultra except that he didn't have the unit hooked up to the home. I like the EF Delta 2 Max batteries, but the EF DP3 and the 50 AMP bridge is dangerous.
bro please just get a headlamp these things dont need lights on them.
No if it's portable a light is not an unreasonable ask and he only gives it a bonus point for having one anyways. I just got a smaller Anker Solix DC to charge phones at 140 watts and the light was the deciding factor. Let there be light even a small one!
@0x80O0oOverfl0w wrong delta weight plus you didn’t watch video obviously
@@ThanksForTheLaugh, yep. Wrong unit, BUT, people would complain like they always do even if it included the stupid light he always complains about
Agreed!
If the light was removable and you put it back for storage and charging would be good.
I ordered and hope the fix you speak of is applied prior to the mid November- Dec ship dates
The main thing I don't like about this unit is the 40w parasitic draw on the inverter. Several reviewers have tried to dismiss this as standard for that size inverter, but it's not! The Bluetti AC200L 2400w inverter uses 13.5w and the Pecron E3600 3,600w inverter only uses 30w. 40 watts is very high for an 1,800 watt inverter. And paired with the smallish 1kwh battery, it's gonna use up a lot of power on nothing. If you turn on the AC inverter (with nothing plugged in) and leave it 24 hours, it will drain nearly the entire battery.
whats the normal delta 2's parastic draw at?
I wish All the Power station makers would publish the parasitic power draw of the inverter. i had to Email Bluetti to find out the value for the AC70, it is 15W.
@@paulywalnuts6042the d2 uses approximately 20w idle.
Are you talking about 'parasitic draw' as when the inverter is in standby just sitting with no load, or inverter inefficiency where an 1800 peak wattage claim is actually 1440W with 80% inefficiency.
@@g-mo961what the inverter consumes turned on but just sitting idle. 40w is a lot.
My d2 only uses 20w.
I paid $550 recently for my Delta 2 and it came with 110w solar panel and a AC/USB power strip. Plus I bought a cool bag for it for $25 on Temu 😊
Where did you get it for $550?
The HSN was having a big promotion on the Delta 2 about 3 weeks ago until they sold out. I think the are now selling the Delta 1300 for $650, it’s an older model, it’s just like the D2 but without the WiFi feature.
So about the lights. I thing all the plugs should have like a halo around the plugs so you can see wear or how you are plugging in to it.
The two inputs is so nice because you can run solar and run a 12v plug to a vehicle
The fans are undoubtedly required to deal with the heat that’s generated. But they should use quality quiet fans.
Loved the video. I appreciate you pointing out the shortcomings it has and will wait buying it. Anyway I have plenty of first generation and second generation units to keep me going while they fix this. Thank you for sharing your information.
Enjoyed your review. I own a Delta Mini and Delta 2, both of which have served me very well. I also own a Bluetti. I ordered the Delta 3 Plus, which has basically the same stats as the Delta 2. The additional cost is for the UPS, plus (hopefully) the better fan setup. The way I pack the Delta Mini in my car, the fans are on the side, so I have to be careful. The fans on the end will hopefully work better. I look forward to having quieter fans, since the unit runs my car refrigerator (in my camping Prius) and fan noise wakes me up. I have a light on my Bluetti, but never use it, so don't miss not having a light on the EcoFlow units.
thanks for the review and thanks especially for pointing out such a key shortcoming that not a single other reviewer (mostly sponsored) has mentioned.
Ecoflow's sponsored videos are making me doubt some creators, several of which I'm a long term fan (JR I'm looking at you...). Some go so far as to delete comments that ask even mild questions or maybe ask for matching (perhaps sponsored) videos for Anker or some of the other key players. I've watched the comments disappear and had a couple of mine get deleted. On channels that I thought were honest and straight-forward. Very disappointing.
I'm still doubtful of Ecoflow but perhaps my previous experience w/ them is an outlier and their equipment has certainly improved over the years.
I ordered one of these along with the alternator charger back on Oct. 1st. Got both for like $850. Hopefully they ship soon, I'm really looking forward to using it yet this year.
I also recently purchased their Glacier fridge unit and can already tell its a battery killer. Lol. At 38 degrees in fridge only mode and with no ice making it will run about 34 hours.
Great deal. If I didn't have to wait until November, I'd have jumped on it too.
@@bigtom4709 Yeah, waiting on this stuff to go on sale is not great. Lol.
As much as I miss seeing you work on your cars and fabricating some of the nicest cars on RUclips, I have found that I just enjoy watching you doing my whatever you do! I love solar and I love learning all of the small nitty gritty details from you! Happy to see you, and stay committed🫶🏻‼️
The storm guard feature is actually super cool and useful. Say you have it always plugged in (UPS style setup) but set it to only ever charge up to 80% capacity to preserve lifespan. Once a storm is detected as coming your way, it disables discharging (if you happened to be doing that at the time by disabling grid bypass) and starts charging at the highest rate (regardless what you set it to before) until it's full and then returns to your settings once the storm warning is over.
More importantly, I came here to see if this issue actually got solved / if the software got an update. Any one?
I had the same issues with my fan running on and off every second. Eco flow said that was not normal so I sent it back under warranty.
Great review! Thanks for sharing...
X-Boost is not fake, it literally tells you what it is for, it is for AC devices that have start up surges, like AC Sump Pumps, drills etc anything with a motor that initially requires more wattage for a few split seconds. Also the spec sheet for the Eco Delta Flow 3 is up to 3600W as long as it is for a single device.. nothing fake about it..
Thank you. I wonder if he can comprehend the concept with such bias and ignorance 🤔 ...
Yes it's extra watts but comes at the cost of voltage so yes it's basically fake. Low voltage will fry your electronics.
I also have a Delta 3+ and the exact same issue.
This really sucks as Ecoflow support say they have to replace the unit but they do not have stock right now and stock might only be available end of November.
Seems that it cannot be fixed through a firmware update.
Did you ever get this resolved?
Typical EcoFlow CCP response. Grab your money for a substandard product. Then BS the buyer. I'd never buy another EcoFlow product.
Just got mine(nov 22), delayed from being out of stock, no fan issue, perhaps they were ‘out of stock’ to fix the issue in existing units? Seems like a huge oversight though
Yes, this is not fixable by software updates... 😮
If you want LFP batteries, it's going to weigh more. This isn't an EcoFlow problem, it's the price of getting a large cycle count and a good price. The whole industry is going to LFP. I guess buyers want their power stations to have a long life more than they want them to be light. Don't hurt your backs, folks!
So many negative commenters never watch the videos and makes you look foolish. 27 pounds sunshine😂
They don't want them bursting into flames, and burning their house down either. A little extra weight is nothing compared to that.
@@mofiddly Oh the drama, Please share the data on power station fires.
x-boost isn't "fake news". It's for high initial draw like a compressor pull. Just very niche usage.
Thank you for mentioning the missing backup battery 😂😂😂😂
Two solar input ports is actually a really good thing, even if you don't use them for solar. A single 12v battery could have two pairs of wires, one pair tfor each "solar" port. Now rather than having being limited to 180 watt input (12v x 13 amps) you can have two 180 watt (12v x 13 amps) inputs, so 360 watts from a single 12v battery. No need for a clunky voltage booster, just two pairs of wires from a single 12v battery.
If using a 12 volt battery why not just get an inverter and save on the headache of paying much more and getting unreliable proprietary junk?
@@aday1637 You could certainly get a battery and an inverter, but there is a big difference between a portable power station and just a battery with an inverter. A power station has the battery, large AC inverter, multiple USB ports both C and A type, UPS type capability, and an AC charger, a solar charge controller a very sophisticated battery monitor and an app to monitor and control it all remotely. And it's all built into a single well designed fully integrated package. So yes a power station costs more, but it does much much more. Adding an external external battery to a power station provides all the above features, but adds more capacity at a very low additional cost.
Have you tried this scenario? I'm thinking of getting this unit for furnace backup, especially for the 2 solar ports, so I can run 12V batteries to extend the discharge time. Initially I was thinking of using 2 x 12V batteries on each xt60 input, but then I thought about the exact same scenario you mentioned. In theory, a 12V 100Ah battery with split output would work, as it will only draw a max of 30A, which it should handle. Just curious if anyone ran this scenario and how the battery handled the draw over hours of use (any overheating?)
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Great Review.
too bad will doesn't really do the portable reviews anymore.
Yeah he and his fans are big "just DIY it bro"-bros. Yeah I know I could get 6000w and 5kwh for what I paid for my Bluetti system over the years. I also know I'd end up with a mismatched conglomeration of cables nailed to wooden boards on a trolley. Some of us just want a device we can take out of the box and use.
Delta 3 with the new Delta Pro 4kW expansion battery ... $3,000 and pretty too.
Still thinking about this one but 😮Good review other youtubers didn't say nothing about this I have the mega1 and love it
You've earned a sub! Thanks for all the great videos!
The fans come on as a show of love.
Love your videos. Thank you from a busy mom that needs this.❤️
Thanks for watching!
Time for a hair cut update whilst we’re calling people out for “no brainers” 😂
I have our starlink on UPS via the river 3 and computer setup on UPS via the D3+. That way when we have power surge or short term power outages, our stream/internet stays active. For that use, these things are great!
P.S. my computer setup draws about 450 watts and the fans are near silent the entire time I ran it for my two days of testing.
This looks interesting. Would be great to get confirmation that the overheating issue is resolved.
I notice in Hobotech's load test he's amazed at how quiet his was. I assume his would have overheated if he did a 30 minute test instead of a 5 minute test.
I got mine during the B.F. sell, it was $1,099.00, It came with a nice leather carrying bag and two 220w new gen panels. I used my eco credits and got $200.00 off coupon and it dropped the price to $899.00. I think I got a steal of a deal, those panels alone on sell are $350.00 each, I got them for $125.00 each -$650 for power station.
I love it here!!
Has EcoFlow updated their firmware regarding the fan issue yet? i'm waiting for confirmation of that before I invest in the purchase of one of these units. Thanks
I'm with you on having a single solar port so you can run a single lineset from the panel array instead of multiple linesets making the run.
I've noticed overheating issues on several of my power stations and inverters, all different brands... but it seems that vendors prioritize making units quieter rather than making units robust. Heat isn't good for power electronics, even when in-spec.
I far prefer that the fans be running all the time at low levels and ramp up and down slowly as needed. Cycling of fans is far more annoying than having a continuous fan.
I see this issue on little car inverters, more serious inverters, and several power stations. I have an Oukitel (same OEM as FFPower) P2001 whos fan is very quiet, but doesn't run fast enough at medium loads and the unit overheats and shutsdown (doesn't happen at high loads, the fan is going full blast, but medium loads... it overheats). I have a little "300W" pure sine wave car inverter that lets its internal FETs exceed 100C (212F) before it turns on its fan, which is just plain stupid. And I have a number of WZRELB inverters whos fans aren't variable speed and cycle off and on all the time which is really annoying.
I've wound up opening up all of these units and hacking the fans. Either soldering a resistor in parallel with the temperature sensor contacts (3K to 10K depending, which makes the unit think it is hotter than it is and forces it to turn its fan on sooner), or literally locating 12VDC on their circuit boards and adding a super-quiet always-on fan in addition to the existing fans... which does a good job preventing the official fans from cycling on and off.
-Matt
And here’s anker quietly producing rocket engine C1000…
Wish I knew how to do that. That's awesome!
I think they've also reduced the sizes of the heat sinks just to make it lighter (for marketing purposes or to cut down the manufacturing costs) which is not good for efficient heat dissipation.
Don’t expect this anytime soon if you do purchase directly from Ecoflow. My preorder for one at the end of September stated shipping in early October. Nope.
At the time of this comment it’s October 20th. The current listing for a delta 3+ on their site says preorder now for shipping in mid November.
If they were meeting the previous orders I could see that getting pushed due to volume with how much they are pushing these things, but looks like we are all going to be waiting on the same shipping containers to show up.
Nice review.
I been in the market for one of these because my neighborhood's power grid is absolute doo doo beans and goes out every summer after a storm. Happened 4 summers in a row and i'm tired of having to call off work (work from home) because our grid stinks. So I did some digging and because our phone's spy on everything we do, I got an HSN ad for this unit. For a grand total of $650, you get the EcoFlow Delta 3 Power Station with 160W Solar Panel and Hand Truck. I priced each one of these items individually and its WAY more than that. I'm about 90% sure i'm gonna buy it as I would only need to power my router, charge some devices, and maybe connect a TV or indoor AC unit. Any input from current owners would be appreciated. 👍
I have one. It would be great except for two problems. It overheats in 30 minutes if you charge or discharge over 1000 watts. Also the inverter is a energy pig. It uses about 40 watts a hour. If you left it on, with ac inverter on, battery will go dead in about a day. If you can live with that, then it is good.
Is there any other difference between the Delta 3 and the Delta 3 Plus other than the outer case and only one solar input?
Yeah, I posted the overheating issue to EcoFlow's Reddit community. EcoFlow told me not to fast charge the unit before draining it. It's BS for sure.
Not sure I've noticed the fans slowing down under heavy load vs light load. They just don't spin very fast in general.
Once it overheats it doesn't want to do anything and doesn't want to spin its fans.
Some are speculating that the firmware is deliberately set to run the fans low until all of the reviewers are done reviewing it. When the reviews are done they'll increase the fan speed (and noise).
Crazy talk, the firmware rollout to correct this would be nutty $$ on the OEM not to mention negative hammering from said reviewers and owners. Nope. They wanted to make her quiet and it's super quiet when she thermals out.
@@g-mo961 That makes little sense. if he could hear the louder fan noises, that means the unit is capable of spinning the fans faster... Why it slows down on higher loads, this is a mistake to be sure. Someone inversed the operation.
do you know if the overheat issues is resolved? please do an update. Thanks much!
currently still working with ecoflow to figure this out... they sent an update but it hasn't fully fixed the problem.
@@TheSolarLab Thank you for the quick response!
@@TheSolarLab between Anker c1000 and delta 3, if you would need to purchase one, which one would you buy. Thanks. given all the information as of today.
@@TheSolarLab - Thanks. Between the overheating and the parasitic draw, I'm going to pass on this one and consider the Bluetti Elite 200 V2. It's much more money but it's also much more power and with minimal parasitic draw.
@@mikezhengccAnker is much better, lighter and have light 👍 Also profile is more convenient. I have both of them, Anker is in use for 95% of the time...
Were does it says the battery health?? My river 3 indicates the battery life percentage.
60 seconds at 2600w is pretty good. That basically let's you have a microwave and a coffee machine or fridge running simultaneously and most likely not trip.
Im looking for something to supplement my ioniq 5 V2L, which trips the instant you touch 1800w. This means I don't need to step up to a big boy unit!
The 2 coffee pots and microwave I own need to run for much longer than 60 sec. More like 6 mins for a full pot which the D3+ does fine. I just can't get it to power both before overload kicks in. That's with xboost on.
i would not buy one of these till they fix the design/software issues are fixed
Right 👍
Where can I get the Sirius 415 watt solar panels you mentioned in video??
2 months later - did the overheating and fan issues get resolved yet?? Please update.
they deemed our unit faulty.. sent us another, and so far the new one hasn't had any issues!
@@TheSolarLabthanks for the update. I ordered one today!
@@TheSolarLab So what is the temperature of your new unit after a full discharge at 1500 watts? Also what is the temperature when charging from Zero to full at 1500 watts? My DP+ gets over 120 degrees doing a full discharge at 1500 watts in a 68 degree room. I am trying to determine if my DP3+ is defective.
Bro so this is where you went 😢
I miss your car channel so much please come back
Are power stations bonded or should they be grounded?
FYI - 2 solar ports, 11V-60V 500W Max which is great!
Yeah hopefullly the fan is a software problem and not a hardware problem
Can you connect ecoflow alternator to it
yes, and the generator.
Annoying fan behavior is the worst. The Delta 2 is the opposite where its fans are like full tilt obnoxious/annoying at anything over about 400W. Seems like they went full tilt in the opposite direction chasing silence.
I want the Delta 3 Plus for this silence, but not at the expense of an overheading unit. I hope they fix the apparent on/off low/idle cycling behavior of the fan too.
I have ordered three of these. The only item received so far is one of free bags they come with which I dont want or need. Tic Toc.....will there be a Delta 3 battery?
If you have 3 can you link them all together?
@@IwannaGotoGGhouse According to hobotech, he says no. Only one unit to an expansion battery.
why can't we see it on ecoflow website out of stock???
I don't think this can be fixed with an update, I had a 1000 CFM vornado fan pointed right in the intake of this device and it still sat around at over 124F while only pushing ~300 watts. As well as went into overheated shutdown at 135F when it starts to charge back up via the smart generator. I had to babysit this unit while out of power for 5 days after hurricane Milton. I resorted to trying to rub ice on the sides, but this thing doesn't even dissipate heat using the encloser it's in which I think is a stupid design. I got ecoflow to replace my unit but I'm just going to get the same issue with the new one :/
How sad to know this. I am actually planning to buy one. And as a coder, I still believe that it can be fixed with an update, everything inside is interacting with the firmware. But if only the ecoflow engineers would listen to its customers to resolved this issue. They should release an update asap. And if the heating problem still exists then there's really a major design flaw. I would not consider buying that anymore.
@@djharml3ss it can't be fixed with an update. the batteries are sealed and there's no battery fan. the batteries can only passively cool. the only fan in the unit is for the inverter. this is a fundamental design limitation of the hardware. they would have to go back and change the battery pack to a different design and add more fans.
FYI 150F is not hot! that's 65c. I would worry when it goes over 90c ie 194F. However going into thermal shutdown is not good. If the fan can ramp up then it should
Ive been tuning into these vids for some time now. I had to cash in and subscribe 🫡
Question! You mentioned that you can duel charge this unit with both ac power and solar at the same time which does surprise me.
What I want to know is can you program the unit to use ac only under certian conditions. For example if the battery reaches 20% charge, turn on the ac to charge it back up. If over 75%, turn off ac and rely on solar only. Or after sunset, turn on ac to charge the unit or a certian time when power is cheaper?
Appreciate this straight forward video. Brutally honest reviews are very helpful too many RUclips vids are bought and paid for wearing lab coats and gloves.
Do you know if this fan issue has been rectified yet? Got a d3+ coming next month and watching closely on this cooling problem. Heat is very destructive on battery and electronics. My other deltas perform well. The fan noise isn’t that bad and sounds like masking white noise.
I was thinking about getting the EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus with the DC2DC alternator charger. But if they only have one expansion port, can you still add the 5000WH battery expansion?
You didn't mention the high AC idle consumption
Yeah it is ridiculous 40 watts per hour.
Home Shopping Network is selling this for$529 right now with a hand truck.
Not sure if it's a "plus" or not though....I'm afraid it may be a stripped down version.
Is there any way to use an EG4LL as an expansion battery?
I always hate being held hostage in a proprietary ecosystem.
Thanks.
Great review, as always. 🙂
Yes, Jasonoid and Hobotech show how pretty well.
@@bigtom4709 but isn't that just to fill up the internal battery through the solar DC in?
I'm really leaning to the EG4 3K inverter and the LL battery. It's heavy, but can work with any combo of solar panels/ battery/ inverter
Sounds like you're looking to set up a system with the EG4 ... not using the EG4 as an expansion. 🤷🏽♂️
@@bigtom4709 it just seems like the 5kW server rack batteries are a good standard to build on. They are portable at 100lbs and the prices are great.
I just want to focus on building battery capacity over time- with 5kW server rack LFPs. And then use them in different flexible systems. So I then need flexible (not proprietary) inputs like solar, alternator, generator etc, and flexible output with an inverter that's compatible with the 5kW battery.
I like the small form factor of some of the power stations, but I'd really like to just Daisy chain my 5kW LFP for extra capacity. Say, for camping.
Thanks for the feedback.
@@rosalieroku3818... The power stations like the Delta 3 are kinda all inclusive (i.e. inverter, charge controller etc.) They just have relatively small capacity. Pairing with a 5KW server rack battery definitely makes them phenomenal. I mean it's FIVE times the battery capacity ... and exchangable.
Run your 1800 watt invertered 6 KW system while your second 5KW battery is off some where else charging or hell charging through your power station whenever you've got shore power.
Overall, very good review! To be honest, I prefer to have at least 2 Receptacles in the back as well. Sorry to hear about the over-heating issue. Hopefully they solve it, but, my worry is that in solving it, they possibly lose performance. Please retest soon.
I disagree that having the 3 x 2 prong receptacles offers more versatility. Actually, it is LESS versatility, they SHOULD have a ground prong. And there is zero reason not to include one on ALL receptacles. If they need room, they need to add the room, or rotate the receptacles. Anyone can cover all the receptacles with a power-brick that is oversized, so that point is not really useful.
Thanks for the review.
You read my mind. Imma need one 2-prong and one 3-prong in the front ... The rest can be in the back where you won't plug and unplug then as frequently.
So buy a couple power strips and plug em in. There. You now have space for the adapters to fit.
@@rtsrts2317... That's one solution, but for $800 it'd be nice to "keep it neat".
Anyone know if the fan problem has been fixed?
Oh well, I couldn't wait for an answer. I bought the Delta 2 instead.
No it has not
@@ThatGen2TacoAnker c1000 is cheaper and better than this EcoFlow...
One thing for sure I can say as an owner of an ecoflow pro and 3 of their bifacial gen 2 foldable panels, is their customer service is horrendous. Awful. Rude. Inefficient. I am also fully deaf in one ear and losing the hearing in my right and refused to provide even the most reasonable accommodations, as the ADA call for, to assist me in the myriad of issues I was having with a 2nd ecoflow pro I had acquired, was bad, had to send back and have since failed to replace....
Just terrible.
Sorry to hear about your experience. This is why we sometimes recommend buying EcoFlow units from a distributor like Shop Solar. They have solid customer service & handle any warranty issues.
I have a delta 2 with extra battery plus a river 2 max. I also have 2x 220 watt panels and 1x110 watt panels for about 3 years total now with good usage and i have had zero issues
Hey, this thing is out of stock now in US and Canada.. by any chance, do you have an inside on when it will be available again?
TOU feature doesn't seem to work
Hi I stored my ecoflow delta 3 for a month in 25 degree temperatures in the garage at a 100% charge. Do you think I caused long term damage? Thanks
Its cool that they replaced his but for the common man its pretty well documented that the customer service is very poor. As a firefighter these units scare me, seems like a great way to burn down your house.
I have a lot of confidence in Ecoflow , they’ve been around a lot longer than this podcast
can it work as a good UPS?
I suppose one could work around the fan not staying on with a whisper quiet usb fan duct taped to the vent 🩹 at least until they update the firmware - if you actually are going to drive it to the limit.
I bought one on Black Friday. When charged and in use it has a nasty odor like burning lubricant. Is this normal?
This is my very first purchase of a solar power station so I’m not familiar with the ins and outs of how these are supposed to function properly.
Its cool that they replaced his but for the common man its pretty well documented that the customer service is very poor.
Thank you for the review.
How long will it power a full sized refrigerator?
12 hrs
@@DBaz-f9s Thank you.
Would be good for possible intermittent use.
I wish this would have come with a second port for two extra batteries or a wave 2 and extra battery.
Does the unit require an Internet connection (think Internet outage) to manage it ?
It does get very hot. I have a new D3 Plus. How hot is too hot for it to be? I charged the unit and let it sit overnight. The next day I did a 1000 watt discharge to empty. It took 52 minutes. When I checked the temperature it was 122 degrees. When I charge it, the D3+ also gets very hot anywhere from 110 to 125 degrees. I currently have a charge rate at 1000 watts just to test it out. I will normally charge at around 500 watts or so. My home is 67 degrees.
I cannot imagine how the unit would get in the summertime. Can it be damaged by getting this hot? As a side note: No matter how hot it gets you can barely hear the fan. The EF manual says to not store it above 113 degrees. This is way hotter than that.
@miguelfamily8991 Strange. I've been running mine ( only a few days old) with 1500-watt space heater and I've never even heard a fan come on.
What is the watch band you’re wearing? It looks good
Looks like a Radiation King.
If I'm using the Delta 3 with the alternator charger how do I connect an extra battery?
any update yet?
Really appreciate your video but was there any update on the heating issue? Was that one problem resolved with an update?
they deemed our unit as faulty & sent us another one.. the fans act completely differently on the new one. So far it hasn't overheated or had any of the same issues! We will ad an update to the video so everyone else knows, thanks for the reminder!
@@TheSolarLab question.. I'm purchasing mine to take out of the country (Cuba), where there’s no internet. Unfortunately, I won’t have the chance to test the device before shipping or check if it needs any updates or new firmware. Do these devices typically require a firmware update right after purchase? or would you advise to wait longer to ship & make sure all is good before shipping?Thanks in advance for your help!
@ 99% of them don’t require an update! You should be good! Updates are made available, however it they work without it (this unit aside)
@@TheSolarLab Copy that! tks!
Are you going to review the new Delta 3 plus 1.5 WH on the website now?
Hey there! Yes, the article is live: www.thesolarlab.com/reviews/ecoflow-delta-3-plus
We will be making improvements to our website in the near future as well :)
No attached lighting is a valid point, X-boost criticism is not. Yes, it's marketing but they are very clear with the intent of the feature. Heating is a major issue indeed. I'm waiting for the Delta 3 Max if there is in the future for the 2kWH native capacity and two battery ports where PowerStream/alternator charger and an extra battery can be connected at the same time.
Good grief, buy a 5-watt 12V LED dome lamp, add a 6' cord, and solder a barrel connector on it. When you turn on the thing, plug in the lamp and select DC. Light up the whole zone for $11.00.
Why would you say X-Boost is fake??
"Modern look"?? Ecoflow look like my Dell desktop from the 1990's.
Me... This guy looks like robbie... Wait a second... Will this battery bankk fit my EG 😂😂😂, sup Robbie still rocking my commited crew eg sticker on my water bottle 🔥