Fantastic! You’re one of the best product reviewers on RUclips. Just the right amount of technical information explained in a very transparent and understanding way. Keep up the great work!
Have you ever considered adding chapters to your video? I'd love to be able to jump around to what I want to see. When it's just one big chunk of video it's hard to do that.
Please do a test of the HID output function that is new in the Delta 3 Plus. While in UPS mode, the left hand USB-C port can be connected to a network attached storage device, a computer, or some firewalls to allow the peripheral to shut down before the power station runs out of power. Basically, the peripheral should see the specifications of the Delta 3 Plus like a UPS.
One test that I would have loved to see if a pass through / charge while running loads. Think of a time where you are out of power, running a load of a fridge, lights, and furnace (because its natgas). You might be able to run this for a few hours but then you are still out of a power and need to charge it up while keeping your loads running. So you fire up your generator and charge it up and then shut it back off because it is now night and you want this to keep your fridge and furnace up while the generator is off. I would like to see how it would behave. Thanks!
@@malifestro3319 it'll definitely do pass-thru charging. UPS mode is an example since you have to be able to support pass-thru charging to support UPS mode. But I take your point. I could have been more clear about that.
Well I'm happy to hear that this new version is quieter than my Delta 2, I'm concerned that the battery is getting hot when the fans are not running. Were you able to see your temperatures when doing your testing?
I wish I could combine Bluetti and Ecoflow to make the perfect power station. Bluetti has an inferior APP, and Ecoflow hasn't put an RV plug on a unit smaller than their Delta Pro.
I think the reason is that the reason is the Delta Pros are the only units that can handle 30 amps. This unit does 15 amps. The Delta 2 Max does 20 amps (and has a 20a plug). So it wouldn't make sense to have a 30 amp plug on a unit that can't do 30 amps.
@@markhester6377 Ya I understand the reasons. The BLUETTI AC200L has the 30A RV plug but I don’t want to get another BLUETTI. I’m hoping a new Delta 3 Max will have it.
@tonyinfinity: Just get a 30a to 15a adapter and plug your RV into one of the regular AC plugs. This unit doesn't put out 30a (neither does the AC200L or AC200Max) so the RV plug is just a novelty.
@@jakeviolet2195 LOL I can get 15 amps from the regular plug, the whole reason for the 30A plug is to get more than 15 amps. It's for a transfer switch. I bought the Delta Pro so I'm good now.
Very nice unit I prob should have waited before I bought my AC180 even though I'm not sorry I bought it. But there is always something new coming out and if anyone is undecided on what to buy the solar market will satisfiy with something new and improved.BTW on my Delta Mini, if it's @ 100% and I leave it in the on mode, it will start eating up the battery quite quickly. I just noticed your T-shirt at the end of the video lol
My procrastinating keeps me on the fence as theses company's keep pumping put new better modles ever few years. Still using my ecoflow river 1 for basic powering of small stuff
@@scottmurphy4946 its funny you say you're still using your Ecoflow River1. I'm still using my first bought solar Gen. and that is my Jackery 240 to power my phone and a mini fan I use to cool my Victron 20 amp charger.
As much as I love EcoFlow I already own 2 of the delta 2's and I would not consider buying this one simply because the dc outputs will not power a diesel heater. Now I would consider buying the Pecron e1500 , more battery capacity , and solar charging is not bad, plus you have a 30amp dc ports that allows you to run the diesel heaters. This new version of the delta 3 plus does have a better design than the delta 2's though. Thanks for the video.
I ordered one and plan to run my diesel heater via an AC to DC power supply. Yes, it's less efficient, but it'll work in an emergency 👍 But maybe not practical for every day use.
Will this talk to and work this the old EcoFlow door fuel generator? I heard you say they have a new app for this one, not sure how that would work with the old app.
yeah i didn't like the placement of the ac plugs on the older version. I went with an anker c1000 because its good and the way the placement of plugs on the wide side.
Hi. I was thinking of buying this to charge our phones, run a small fan and run a dual fridge intermittently to save power. Would this be a good buy for that purpose? Thanks.
Disappointing it won't dual charge, but prioritize the solar input. Are they doing a better job with thermal load just because you can't hear the fans? Maybe a thermal camera to see if there are any hot areas! Still sticking to my Zendure super base pro
Important notice/question: it seems the Delta 3 plus has the same limit as Delta 2 - there is only one port for DC entry? So, you can only connect the Delta 3 to a powerstream OR to an extra battery. The Delta 2 max has 2 ports to connect Powerstream and extra battery at the same time. Is it correct?
@@Godfather44055 Supposedly the only difference is the PLUS has 2 solar inputs that are 500W each. That being said, the Delta 3 has not been released yet.
20:25 I think there was a bug with Delta 2 and currently in Wave 2 w/ extra battery: if you leave solar connected with battery, it throws an error and won't continue to start up. I suspect it has to do with solar input too low. Can you test one thing for me? This really bothered me with the Delta 2, so I'd like to know if they fixed it. When you have solar connected and you're connected to the 110v grid, if you power something from AC ports, will it draw from solar or shut off solar inputs? I asked Ecoflow, and they said my Delta 2 does AC pass through without solar and it's normal
well, it depends heavily on multiple variables: Set-point temp, ambient temp, how much thermal mass is stored in the fridge. But if you download the Google spreadsheet I mentioned at the end of the video (and linked in the description), you'd see that an average estimate would be about 40 hours (more or less) for a typical 12V DC fridge.
For someone without RV or backing up major appliances is this good for a first time power station purchase? Prefer the design of BLUETTI but the USB- C & A are weak. At that price I expect 2x100 USB-C but that’s rare. This has 2x140 and even USB-A is 36! Have no use for 6 AC but figure I can grow into it with extended camping trips. The AC180 has 1152Wh. Is that significant over 1024 in Ecoflow?
I think the Dellta 3 is an excellent first time power station for most people. Other than wireless phone charging, it's got about everything else you might want. The AC180 will give you about 12% more runtime and is similar in most other aspects to the Delta 3. Both are solid choices.
@daveschreiner413 I'd say the answer depends on how much you prioritize the ability to solar charge with more than 500W of solar (most wouldn't require that) and then how important is quiet operation to you? If either of those things are worth paying $150 extra for, then yes. If not, the Delta 2 is still a great choice.
One thing I don't understand in this review, and others, is why the measured capacity in W-Hr is lower for DC discharge than for AC discharge. I would expect the opposite because of the inherent losses in the inverter. What am I missing?
The battery is 51.2V, need to step down and regulate it to 12V, there is a loss. Also, there is some cable loss. And in DC test, longer time means more loss.
Good morning, thank you for this video. Would appreciate knowing if very small devices such as a USB fan will show up on the EcoFlow app for the wattage usage?
@@EasyyokeFilms Just recently discovered this myself. Went around the house with my Delta 2 measuring loads of different things, and my wifi and router showed no output, but estimated run time on a full charge went from 99 hours to 66 hours, so while it still said output was 0, it showed a drop in runtime. Odd for sure, but not the end of the world.
@@Desert-edDavewhatts funny? 200 real watts mote than enought for small party, and none of them power stations videos in youtube shows the life with speakers. 🤷
My Delta 3 Plus exhibits a high pitched hiss when AC charging between 600W - 1500W, but oddly enough it's worse around 1100W. When I sent EcoFlow a video they said that it was abnormal and sent me a return label. Does yours make any sound other than soft fan noise while charging? The fans are super quiet, but the transformer noise is unnerving frequency wise even though it's not loud. I couldn't really tell from your video as there was simply too much background noise in your environment and you were talking the whole time. Please do noise tests in a quiet environment in the future. It's not always the volume of noise that's an issue, sometimes it's the type of noise. You can get a radiant oil heater that is silent to use as a load, they're often rated for 1500W. My Delta 3 Plus overheated after fast charging and then discharging from 100% to 0% using a 1450W load. The battery temperature reached 136F and refused to charge for 1.5 hours. They need to increase fan speed via firmware and likely will after all the reviews are in praising how quiet it is.
@adriftatlas i definitely didn't pickup on any hissing noises while charging...at any speed. AND yeah, I actually have 2 radiant oil heaters that I frequently use for load testing for exactly that reason...they are silent.
I noticed the high pitch testing when I was trying to power my apartment size refrigerator in the garage. And eventually just wouldn't power it at all within a few minutes. I tried my old Delta 2 and it did fine. One person of the Eco Flo Facebook page suggested maybe I had held down the AC output button too long and it changed the frequency from 60 to 50 hrs???
What I'm seeing is a lot of reviewers are praising how quiet the Delta 3 plus is, but are not paying attention to the battery temperature. The device being really quiet may be a bug, not a feature.
@@Beekobah Someone said that EcoFlow might be waiting till all the reviews are done and then they'll update the firmware to speed up the fans and increase noise.
@mssbjh If you're just using a typical 12V car socket to charge from? It'd take upwards of 10 hours to fully charge from 0-100% since you're only getting about 100W. You could dramatically lower that charge time to about 2 hours if you used a 500W DC-DC charger connected to your car battery. Something like the Pecron DC charger I recently reviewed. EF makes an 800W version as well that is compatible with this unit. More expensive, but also very high quality.
Thx! I went to the ecoflo website and I see they're selling the Delta 3+ and a case WITH the Alternator charger for $848! What a deal! Basically $200 for the alternator using the sale price of the D3+. @@ReeWrayOutdoors
THXs, Good Review.. yeah, NO automatic restart of solar charging when unit shuts down because batteries at 0%. So there is the sleep mode ??? So how much does this power station consume in sleep mode ?. A power station should wake up as soon as power comes in WHEN consumers are connected !!! This is definitely BAD NEWS. I can not leave this thing alone.... and You did not even mention the very disappointing DC OUTPUT. Well, just another piece of garbage and they claim to be a mayor leading brand of the industry. What do they expect from the consumer ? That we buy a new powers station every year ? This is poor marketing quality. I assume by now it´s very clear what PORTABLE power stations are used for and what customers want. It´s all over the internet. Even the PROs point their fingers at it in every review and test. Maybe somebody needs to pull their plug for them to find out what power stations are used for ?
So, a couple of points I'd make in response to your comments: 1) the DC Output performance really was not disappointing...it produced average results with the specific testers I'm using...I'd agree the number seems a bit low, but that has more to do with the tester, since the results are definitely in-line with what I typically see, having tested dozens of other units. 2) I'm told that the need to manually power-on the unit to resume solar charging from a shut-down state is supposedly not typical in the released version - which SHOULD actually auto-wakeup and charge. But I felt I had to report what I actually observed in my pre-release review unit. So...for what it's worth, this is supposed to be a non-issue with the released units they'll ship in October, but I'll be keeping my eye on that to see for myself.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors 1.) With most of the portable devices in the world running on DC voltage I would say the term of average results is a disappointing understatement. Definitely in-line....another piece of garbage. You can´t even cover basic needs like a diesel heater and a decent icebox or what do I need a power station for ? 2.) Well, let´s wait till October and see if they come up with a solid solution or just another crappy patch. What I have seen so far in Your review is just another lousy hill billy solar illusion. I mean in todays world even a 6 year old kid knows how to connect a solar panel to a battery through a charge controller and with ONLY 4 wires the magic comes alive. 3.) You take a close look at their excellent AC inverter unit and good sized solar charge controller. I am sure You agree they know very well what the customers want AND.... they know how to built it for a reasonable price. 4.) I wonder when they start selling decent power station instead of a trap for overpriced batteries. Now everybody knows where to buy cheap batteries and solar panels
@@warrior9086 Fun fact... >almost everything< runs on DC eventually, unless you're talking about something like a some motors it all eventually becomes DC, even if connected to AC it usually eventually gets rectified. As for the DC output for a power station, yes, that is relatively trivial given the intended purpose of the EPS and is more than sufficient for charging devices, your car cigarette lighter can do that 🙄. You use so many words and have so little substance to your hyper-critical, non-sensical ranting.
@@warrior9086 aren’t you just a ray of sunshine? There’s never gonna be the perfect power station, companies always have to make a sacrifice somewhere in the interest of cost to the consumer. If you don’t like what this channel shares, then you don’t have to watch it.
OBSERVATION- why did they change that color. Looks so cheap.Looks like a 90s desk top computer. The prior color scheme looked so rugged, robust and well made.
@beebop4333 haha I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think I prefer the new look, and it certainly doesn't feel less well-made than the 2 when you put your hands on it. But I'll admit that I've always been partial to gray/silver color-schemes.
Hey ReeRee, Ive often wondered why they use the xt60 and 60i cords, when the world standards are mc4 and anderson connectors. Also Im trying to understand these awbsum high frequency units, when the world standard is low frequency, ie, the electric grids world wide, transformer based,has the world just been doing it wrong all along, or is china selling BS to uninformed public
I agree, for just a little more $, over 500Wh more capacity and the 30 amp xt60 output make it worth it to me alone. And don't forget the more powerful 2200 watt inverter...with actually better performance than Deltas 1800. Plus I like the black and orange colors. It is a little heavy and could use app improvement though. Deltas are much more refined. Oh, and they upped the warranty to 5 years if you register on their website.👍 Have fun and be safe all.🙏
THE THINGS I DON'T AGREE WITH ON DELTA 3 PLUS ARE: THERE'S ONLY ONE EXTRA BATTERY CONNECTION OR ALTERNATOR CHARGER CONNECTION, NO WIRELESS CHARGER ON TOP LIKE WHAT YOU SAID AND THERE'S NO INDICATOR OF HOW LONG THE BATTERY WOULD LAST AT CERTAIN LOAD. ABOUT THE PLUGS FOR LOAD, I LIKE THEM IN THE BACK OUT OF THE VIEW AND AOUT OF THE WAY. AND I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM ALL THE TIME.
The charger doesn't "hold power" any more what it can in the filtering capacitors (which is trivial and a farad or two at best, not energy storage), same as a desktop PSU. The laptop itself "holds power" in it's battery and capacitors are not batteries. There is no shortage of videos on people testing the UPS functionality of these devices. Being a "desktop as full load" is irrelevant (even with an inefficient Intel CPU and 4090 CPU at 100% load) as no desktop PC could power rating of the inverter. Most modern EPS / power stations can easily function as a UPS and is why the manufacturers state a switchover speed of 10ms, 20ms, or 30ms etc (with this being model 'under 10ms' as stated by Ecoflow). You appeared so confident in your incorrect statement.😆
@@Desert-edDave I didnt want to give such a detailed response. but you're correct. My point still stands though, a desktop PSU near its limit will be a better real world test of UPS switching speed vs a laptop at idle using its supplied power supply even without a battery
@@danieldevine To provide a real-world example... a 1kw ATX PSU at max load will still not overload the inverter in this unit, or even come close to it. Load doesn't affect load transfer if not exceeding the load rating of the inverter. E.g. a 2KW inverter isn't going to have a problem with a 1KW load, and your desktop definitely is not a 1kw load. Switching speed for this unit is under 10ms as stated by the manufacturer and would not be noticeable to the end user of a desktop PC, regardless of load on the desktop PSU. It behaves no differently from a Schneider/APC UPS or others that perform the same function in this regard.
@@Desert-edDave i don't mean overload the inverter, I mean be at peak capacity for the inverter on the device. i.e. I'm running a workstation rendering at full gpu & cpu usage. that could be over 700W or more fairly easily. My point entirely being, can it switch fast enough to not bother the lower spec power supply that's at it's limit. The switching performance itself. My point entirely being that the laptop power supply would not be pushed to its limit, as the laptop is sitting at idle, affording the fractions of a second difference.
I also feel the laptop UPS test isn't realistic. Just test with a desktop like most people use in the real world... Who runs a laptop without a battery?
Fantastic! You’re one of the best product reviewers on RUclips. Just the right amount of technical information explained in a very transparent and understanding way. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for the kind! Sincerely appreciated!
I have it and know it will come in handy as I live in FL. The solar inputs are a huge plus as I have a 400wstt flexible solar panel
Excellent presentation 👏 👌
Have you ever considered adding chapters to your video? I'd love to be able to jump around to what I want to see. When it's just one big chunk of video it's hard to do that.
Please do a test of the HID output function that is new in the Delta 3 Plus. While in UPS mode, the left hand USB-C port can be connected to a network attached storage device, a computer, or some firewalls to allow the peripheral to shut down before the power station runs out of power. Basically, the peripheral should see the specifications of the Delta 3 Plus like a UPS.
You can also charge from solar and the alternator charger at the same time as well.
One test that I would have loved to see if a pass through / charge while running loads. Think of a time where you are out of power, running a load of a fridge, lights, and furnace (because its natgas). You might be able to run this for a few hours but then you are still out of a power and need to charge it up while keeping your loads running. So you fire up your generator and charge it up and then shut it back off because it is now night and you want this to keep your fridge and furnace up while the generator is off. I would like to see how it would behave. Thanks!
@@malifestro3319 it'll definitely do pass-thru charging. UPS mode is an example since you have to be able to support pass-thru charging to support UPS mode. But I take your point. I could have been more clear about that.
That AC inverter is much better. This is a buy in my book.
Well I'm happy to hear that this new version is quieter than my Delta 2, I'm concerned that the battery is getting hot when the fans are not running. Were you able to see your temperatures when doing your testing?
Another great video. You have helped me in so many ways.
I wish I could combine Bluetti and Ecoflow to make the perfect power station. Bluetti has an inferior APP, and Ecoflow hasn't put an RV plug on a unit smaller than their Delta Pro.
I think the reason is that the reason is the Delta Pros are the only units that can handle 30 amps. This unit does 15 amps. The Delta 2 Max does 20 amps (and has a 20a plug). So it wouldn't make sense to have a 30 amp plug on a unit that can't do 30 amps.
@@markhester6377 Ya I understand the reasons. The BLUETTI AC200L has the 30A RV plug but I don’t want to get another BLUETTI. I’m hoping a new Delta 3 Max will have it.
@tonyinfinity: Just get a 30a to 15a adapter and plug your RV into one of the regular AC plugs. This unit doesn't put out 30a (neither does the AC200L or AC200Max) so the RV plug is just a novelty.
@@jakeviolet2195 LOL I can get 15 amps from the regular plug, the whole reason for the 30A plug is to get more than 15 amps. It's for a transfer switch. I bought the Delta Pro so I'm good now.
Very nice unit I prob should have waited before I bought my AC180 even though I'm not sorry I bought it. But there is always something new coming out and if anyone is undecided on what to buy the solar market will satisfiy with something new and improved.BTW on my Delta Mini, if it's @ 100% and I leave it in the on mode, it will start eating up the battery quite quickly. I just noticed your T-shirt at the end of the video lol
My procrastinating keeps me on the fence as theses company's keep pumping put new better modles ever few years.
Still using my ecoflow river 1 for basic powering of small stuff
@@scottmurphy4946 its funny you say you're still using your Ecoflow River1. I'm still using my first bought solar Gen. and that is my Jackery 240 to power my phone and a mini fan I use to cool my Victron 20 amp charger.
Fan noise is a huge upgrade woo
Apparently the unit is overheating.
@spiderman0863 well damn
I'm pretty sure I need this.
As much as I love EcoFlow I already own 2 of the delta 2's and I would not consider buying this one simply because the dc outputs will not power a diesel heater. Now I would consider buying the Pecron e1500 , more battery capacity , and solar charging is not bad, plus you have a 30amp dc ports that allows you to run the diesel heaters. This new version of the delta 3 plus does have a better design than the delta 2's though. Thanks for the video.
I ordered one and plan to run my diesel heater via an AC to DC power supply. Yes, it's less efficient, but it'll work in an emergency 👍 But maybe not practical for every day use.
Will this talk to and work this the old EcoFlow door fuel generator? I heard you say they have a new app for this one, not sure how that would work with the old app.
I have a Delta 2 it’s great!
@im_not_mad yep agreed! Very solid unit...just a bit loud at times.
yeah i didn't like the placement of the ac plugs on the older version. I went with an anker c1000 because its good and the way the placement of plugs on the wide side.
Would you recommend this one for tailgating? Would be used to run a crok pot and other small appliances. Thank you.
Hi. I was thinking of buying this to charge our phones, run a small fan and run a dual fridge intermittently to save power. Would this be a good buy for that purpose? Thanks.
Is that scheduling tasks based on time only, or are their other triggers other the. Time based triggers?
@texasgrillchef8581 I'm pretty sure just time-based.
Disappointing it won't dual charge, but prioritize the solar input. Are they doing a better job with thermal load just because you can't hear the fans? Maybe a thermal camera to see if there are any hot areas!
Still sticking to my Zendure super base pro
We need Anderson plugs!
How long could you run a sump pump and decent sized upright freezer with this? Or would I need something larger?
Love it
Important notice/question: it seems the Delta 3 plus has the same limit as Delta 2 - there is only one port for DC entry? So, you can only connect the Delta 3 to a powerstream OR to an extra battery. The Delta 2 max has 2 ports to connect Powerstream and extra battery at the same time. Is it correct?
I want the Delta 3 (not plus) assuming they release it. I don’t need the dual 500 solar inputs.
What's the difference between the D3 and D3Plus
@@Godfather44055 Supposedly the only difference is the PLUS has 2 solar inputs that are 500W each. That being said, the Delta 3 has not been released yet.
20:25 I think there was a bug with Delta 2 and currently in Wave 2 w/ extra battery: if you leave solar connected with battery, it throws an error and won't continue to start up. I suspect it has to do with solar input too low.
Can you test one thing for me? This really bothered me with the Delta 2, so I'd like to know if they fixed it. When you have solar connected and you're connected to the 110v grid, if you power something from AC ports, will it draw from solar or shut off solar inputs? I asked Ecoflow, and they said my Delta 2 does AC pass through without solar and it's normal
I just wish someone would explain how long this will run a dometic 35 cooler before having to be charged on a 4 day camping trip
well, it depends heavily on multiple variables: Set-point temp, ambient temp, how much thermal mass is stored in the fridge. But if you download the Google spreadsheet I mentioned at the end of the video (and linked in the description), you'd see that an average estimate would be about 40 hours (more or less) for a typical 12V DC fridge.
For someone without RV or backing up major appliances is this good for a first time power station purchase? Prefer the design of BLUETTI but the USB- C & A are weak. At that price I expect 2x100 USB-C but that’s rare. This has 2x140 and even USB-A is 36! Have no use for 6 AC but figure I can grow into it with extended camping trips.
The AC180 has 1152Wh. Is that significant over 1024 in Ecoflow?
I think the Dellta 3 is an excellent first time power station for most people. Other than wireless phone charging, it's got about everything else you might want. The AC180 will give you about 12% more runtime and is similar in most other aspects to the Delta 3. Both are solid choices.
As a first time power station buyer, is the Delta 3 Plus worth the extra $150 over the Delta 2 (Amazon $650 vs $500)? Thanks!
@daveschreiner413 I'd say the answer depends on how much you prioritize the ability to solar charge with more than 500W of solar (most wouldn't require that) and then how important is quiet operation to you? If either of those things are worth paying $150 extra for, then yes. If not, the Delta 2 is still a great choice.
can you both solar charge and use the power station at the same time?
Yes, absolutely
Very nice 👌 👍
One thing I don't understand in this review, and others, is why the measured capacity in W-Hr is lower for DC discharge than for AC discharge. I would expect the opposite because of the inherent losses in the inverter. What am I missing?
I'm curious about that as well.
And it seems to be more common lately.🤷
The battery is 51.2V, need to step down and regulate it to 12V, there is a loss. Also, there is some cable loss. And in DC test, longer time means more loss.
Good morning, thank you for this video. Would appreciate knowing if very small devices such as a USB fan will show up on the EcoFlow app for the wattage usage?
Yes - I just checked and it will display even very low USB loads like 4W
It doesn’t show all the time. Sometimes it shows, sometimes it doesn’t. Anything below 10w
@@EasyyokeFilms Just recently discovered this myself. Went around the house with my Delta 2 measuring loads of different things, and my wifi and router showed no output, but estimated run time on a full charge went from 99 hours to 66 hours, so while it still said output was 0, it showed a drop in runtime. Odd for sure, but not the end of the world.
Can you do test with like 200 watts speakers how long he will survive ??? Its usefull info for Dj's playing outside 👌 thank you
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@@Desert-edDavewhatts funny? 200 real watts mote than enought for small party, and none of them power stations videos in youtube shows the life with speakers. 🤷
My Delta 3 Plus exhibits a high pitched hiss when AC charging between 600W - 1500W, but oddly enough it's worse around 1100W. When I sent EcoFlow a video they said that it was abnormal and sent me a return label. Does yours make any sound other than soft fan noise while charging? The fans are super quiet, but the transformer noise is unnerving frequency wise even though it's not loud.
I couldn't really tell from your video as there was simply too much background noise in your environment and you were talking the whole time. Please do noise tests in a quiet environment in the future. It's not always the volume of noise that's an issue, sometimes it's the type of noise. You can get a radiant oil heater that is silent to use as a load, they're often rated for 1500W.
My Delta 3 Plus overheated after fast charging and then discharging from 100% to 0% using a 1450W load. The battery temperature reached 136F and refused to charge for 1.5 hours. They need to increase fan speed via firmware and likely will after all the reviews are in praising how quiet it is.
@adriftatlas i definitely didn't pickup on any hissing noises while charging...at any speed. AND yeah, I actually have 2 radiant oil heaters that I frequently use for load testing for exactly that reason...they are silent.
I noticed the high pitch testing when I was trying to power my apartment size refrigerator in the garage. And eventually just wouldn't power it at all within a few minutes. I tried my old Delta 2 and it did fine.
One person of the Eco Flo Facebook page suggested maybe I had held down the AC output button too long and it changed the frequency from 60 to 50 hrs???
What I'm seeing is a lot of reviewers are praising how quiet the Delta 3 plus is, but are not paying attention to the battery temperature. The device being really quiet may be a bug, not a feature.
@@Beekobah Someone said that EcoFlow might be waiting till all the reviews are done and then they'll update the firmware to speed up the fans and increase noise.
If I run it, can I charge it with solar at the same time to extend its life
@gregfoertsch7014 yes you can charge while discharging
So for car charging... Tell me again how long it takes for a car charge? I was going on a trip and wanted to charge it while I was driving.
@mssbjh If you're just using a typical 12V car socket to charge from? It'd take upwards of 10 hours to fully charge from 0-100% since you're only getting about 100W. You could dramatically lower that charge time to about 2 hours if you used a 500W DC-DC charger connected to your car battery. Something like the Pecron DC charger I recently reviewed. EF makes an 800W version as well that is compatible with this unit. More expensive, but also very high quality.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thank you for the info!!
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I was looking it up.. is that the ecoflow alternator charger that is like $300 and something dollars? Maybe it's worth it.
@mssbjh yeah it was like $600 originally. This is the guy here: EF ECOFLOW 800W Alternator Charger a.co/d/4bm9Rja
Thx! I went to the ecoflo website and I see they're selling the Delta 3+ and a case WITH the Alternator charger for $848! What a deal! Basically $200 for the alternator using the sale price of the D3+.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors
Does it have Bluetooth technology
@@Glide-vd5we yes you can connect the app via Bluetooth or via Wifi
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thank you
THXs, Good Review.. yeah, NO automatic restart of solar charging when unit shuts down because batteries at 0%. So there is the sleep mode ??? So how much does this power station consume in sleep mode ?. A power station should wake up as soon as power comes in WHEN consumers are connected !!! This is definitely BAD NEWS. I can not leave this thing alone.... and You did not even mention the very disappointing DC OUTPUT. Well, just another piece of garbage and they claim to be a mayor leading brand of the industry. What do they expect from the consumer ? That we buy a new powers station every year ? This is poor marketing quality. I assume by now it´s very clear what PORTABLE power stations are used for and what customers want. It´s all over the internet. Even the PROs point their fingers at it in every review and test. Maybe somebody needs to pull their plug for them to find out what power stations are used for ?
So, a couple of points I'd make in response to your comments: 1) the DC Output performance really was not disappointing...it produced average results with the specific testers I'm using...I'd agree the number seems a bit low, but that has more to do with the tester, since the results are definitely in-line with what I typically see, having tested dozens of other units. 2) I'm told that the need to manually power-on the unit to resume solar charging from a shut-down state is supposedly not typical in the released version - which SHOULD actually auto-wakeup and charge. But I felt I had to report what I actually observed in my pre-release review unit. So...for what it's worth, this is supposed to be a non-issue with the released units they'll ship in October, but I'll be keeping my eye on that to see for myself.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors hope the final customer ones have the auto wakeup functionality fixed, this will fit with my needs.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors 1.) With most of the portable devices in the world running on DC voltage I would say the term of average results is a disappointing understatement.
Definitely in-line....another piece of garbage. You can´t even cover basic needs like a diesel heater and a decent icebox or what do I need a power station for ?
2.) Well, let´s wait till October and see if they come up with a solid solution or just another crappy patch. What I have seen so far in Your review is just another lousy hill billy solar illusion. I mean in todays world even a 6 year old kid knows how to connect a solar panel to a battery through a charge controller and with ONLY 4 wires the magic comes alive.
3.) You take a close look at their excellent AC inverter unit and good sized solar charge controller. I am sure You agree they know very well what the customers want AND.... they know how to built it for a reasonable price.
4.) I wonder when they start selling decent power station instead of a trap for overpriced batteries. Now everybody knows where to buy cheap batteries and solar panels
@@warrior9086 Fun fact... >almost everything< runs on DC eventually, unless you're talking about something like a some motors it all eventually becomes DC, even if connected to AC it usually eventually gets rectified. As for the DC output for a power station, yes, that is relatively trivial given the intended purpose of the EPS and is more than sufficient for charging devices, your car cigarette lighter can do that 🙄. You use so many words and have so little substance to your hyper-critical, non-sensical ranting.
@@warrior9086 aren’t you just a ray of sunshine? There’s never gonna be the perfect power station, companies always have to make a sacrifice somewhere in the interest of cost to the consumer. If you don’t like what this channel shares, then you don’t have to watch it.
OBSERVATION- why did they change that color. Looks so cheap.Looks like a 90s desk top computer. The prior color scheme looked so rugged, robust and well made.
@beebop4333 haha I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think I prefer the new look, and it certainly doesn't feel less well-made than the 2 when you put your hands on it. But I'll admit that I've always been partial to gray/silver color-schemes.
I love the new look! Much more clean lines and modern looking!
Hey ReeRee, Ive often wondered why they use the xt60 and 60i cords, when the world standards are mc4 and anderson connectors. Also Im trying to understand these awbsum high frequency units, when the world standard is low frequency, ie, the electric grids world wide, transformer based,has the world just been doing it wrong all along, or is china selling BS to uninformed public
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Help help my battery is to friggin loud lol
Much better than the Delta 2 but still not as good as the Pecron E1500LFP
Is Pecron better than Ecoflow? I'm undecided atm as there's Jackery that looks good too.
I agree, for just a little more $, over 500Wh more capacity and the 30 amp xt60 output make it worth it to me alone.
And don't forget the more powerful 2200 watt inverter...with actually better performance than Deltas 1800.
Plus I like the black and orange colors.
It is a little heavy and could use app improvement though.
Deltas are much more refined.
Oh, and they upped the warranty to 5 years if you register on their website.👍
Have fun and be safe all.🙏
No works for powerstream 👎👎👎👎
THE THINGS I DON'T AGREE WITH ON DELTA 3 PLUS ARE: THERE'S ONLY ONE EXTRA BATTERY CONNECTION OR ALTERNATOR CHARGER CONNECTION, NO WIRELESS CHARGER ON TOP LIKE WHAT YOU SAID AND THERE'S NO INDICATOR OF HOW LONG THE BATTERY WOULD LAST AT CERTAIN LOAD. ABOUT THE PLUGS FOR LOAD, I LIKE THEM IN THE BACK OUT OF THE VIEW AND AOUT OF THE WAY. AND I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM ALL THE TIME.
Using a laptop for UPS test is useless - the charger itself holds power. Needs to be a desktop at full load.
The charger doesn't "hold power" any more what it can in the filtering capacitors (which is trivial and a farad or two at best, not energy storage), same as a desktop PSU. The laptop itself "holds power" in it's battery and capacitors are not batteries. There is no shortage of videos on people testing the UPS functionality of these devices. Being a "desktop as full load" is irrelevant (even with an inefficient Intel CPU and 4090 CPU at 100% load) as no desktop PC could power rating of the inverter. Most modern EPS / power stations can easily function as a UPS and is why the manufacturers state a switchover speed of 10ms, 20ms, or 30ms etc (with this being model 'under 10ms' as stated by Ecoflow). You appeared so confident in your incorrect statement.😆
@@Desert-edDave I didnt want to give such a detailed response. but you're correct. My point still stands though, a desktop PSU near its limit will be a better real world test of UPS switching speed vs a laptop at idle using its supplied power supply even without a battery
@@danieldevine To provide a real-world example... a 1kw ATX PSU at max load will still not overload the inverter in this unit, or even come close to it. Load doesn't affect load transfer if not exceeding the load rating of the inverter. E.g. a 2KW inverter isn't going to have a problem with a 1KW load, and your desktop definitely is not a 1kw load. Switching speed for this unit is under 10ms as stated by the manufacturer and would not be noticeable to the end user of a desktop PC, regardless of load on the desktop PSU. It behaves no differently from a Schneider/APC UPS or others that perform the same function in this regard.
@@Desert-edDave i don't mean overload the inverter, I mean be at peak capacity for the inverter on the device. i.e. I'm running a workstation rendering at full gpu & cpu usage. that could be over 700W or more fairly easily. My point entirely being, can it switch fast enough to not bother the lower spec power supply that's at it's limit. The switching performance itself. My point entirely being that the laptop power supply would not be pushed to its limit, as the laptop is sitting at idle, affording the fractions of a second difference.
I also feel the laptop UPS test isn't realistic. Just test with a desktop like most people use in the real world... Who runs a laptop without a battery?