Love your content but I think you missed the point of the Gus scene a little bit. I didn’t necessarily get the sense that it was “well, I could have a normal life, but it’s back to business, I’m set on my revenge.” In the previous scene Don Eladio basically told him, “remember who’s boss.” In a word, “I own you.” So Gus goes to have a drink and essentially has a very human moment with someone he feels attraction to; moments like these for Gus are few and far between because he has to be so “on” all the time. But he knows that if he even dares to get close to someone like his previous partner, that person is just a potential casualty in the life Gus has built for himself. The “look” Gus has when the waiter leaves isn’t just a desire for revenge, but a mix of sorrow for the loss of humanity that he has had to give up for the business he is in. I believe it is supposed to paint Gus in a sympathetic light to the audience, despite all of the despicable things he has done. He is as much trapped in the life as everyone else. That was my takeaway from it, anyways.
I absolutely loved that whole scene. It’s really interesting how they’ve humanized Gus in this season. We’ve seen him fear for his life to the point of feeling unrest, and here we see him actually enjoy the company of a man he’s clearly attracted to, only to fall back into himself and leave. Scenes like that are a big part of this show’s success for me.
I honestly didn't think this show would be better or even come close to BB. I thought it would just be Saul and a bunch of easter eggs. I was SUPER wrong. I'm so involved in this story and I think its a bit better than BB.
Dude, it’s amazing to me how much restraint these creators have, I mean to be able to slow the pace down and make us sit with these characters as they deal with the aftermath of their decisions and actions and how they’re gonna move forward and live with it.. Gould and the crew r just cut from a different cloth, to have the patience and confidence to make an episode like this with only a few episodes left is nothing short of brilliant in my opinion.. I thought this episode was great and even more so, absolutely necessary, to end this story in a satisfying way
The wine scene was basically Gus closing the lid on his own definition of what a normal life is forever. It was a small glimpse into this mans psychology and reminder to us viewers what could of been had this "monster" allowed himself on a different path. Really, Gus having this social moment, without any underlying mischievous motives, was in a way the closest we've ever came to know him. Another tragic figure in a brilliant, brilliant show. Wonderfuly written, executed and acted.
A lot of people credit mostly Vince Gillian or/ and Peter Gould for the writing. It's not only them. Gordon Smith has done Chicanery, Five-O, Coushatta, Bagman. Ann Cherkis did Fun and Games Tom Schnauz did Bad Choice Road, Plan n Execution, Winner, Pimento.
Peter Gould is the main writer of this show . How does it work? The main plot of the entire season is written in advance by Peter Gould, all the highlights and twists. The main plot . The idea for each episode was created in advance by Peter Gould . The same can be said about Vince Gilligan in Breаking bad . When other writers get an episode they need to write, they add a bunch of details and give life to an idea that has already been created. This absolutely doesnt take away their merits, because in fact they really write the episode completely and then give Peter Gould to check whether they conveyed what he wanted to say.
One thing I will say for the wine scene is I don’t think we have ever seen Gus interact with any person in that way ever. That by itself made it worth it to me.
I like the pause that gus took, i see it as a "im enjoying talking to this person and would like to continue but i can't do it because of the life i'm leading." The breakup scene with kim and saul was great too.
Great video Cody. Was not expecting it to go this way. Things are moving really fast. Or is it just me??? I know there's only 4 episodes left but this going down like this basically garrentees a Kim an Gene reunion in the post BB episode, whenever that is. Unless something changes. One thing I do appreciate is how the show evolved when the two moral compasses in Jimmy's life went away. When Chuck died the BB universe was slowly infecting the show episode to episode. And now with Kim leaving we are fully in that timeline/world. He has nobody in his life and he is now that crummy crooked criminal lawyer we all love. And seeing him in his big lonely mansion just reassures that. This show and BB do that really well, they occasionally remind you this world is depressing and filled with loss, and we're watching it unfold. But as for the rest of the show, i don't know what to expect.
Loved this episode. My favorite of the season so far. They handled the Kim/Jimmy fallout perfectly and I was genuinely surprised that they decided to jump so far forward in one cut. I was also *very* happy and relieved that there was some kind of actual pay off for Nacho‘s death in this episode, in the scene between Mike and Nacho’s dad. It was a great character moment that gave Nacho’s death more a long-standing impact for Mike as a character, which I appreciated. I feel it only further enriches his relationship with Jesse in BB as well. This episode is just full of great character moments and insights. Jimmy actually having a sincere moment of regret and admitting to jealousy of Howard at the service was very surprising and welcome for me, and Kim very subtly shifting blame to Howard’s widow, knowing their marriage was falling apart, and basically planting a seed of guilt in the woman’s head for not noticing any “drug problem” Howard may have had was just so twisted. I feel that was absolutely when she decided she needed to get away from Jimmy. Her natural inclination to defend him made her cross yet another line of depravity. Great episode. 10/10. Can’t wait for next week.
I dont think that moment was sincere(maybe only partially) He was just playing the Chuck card, more or less. He really hated Howard because Howard was able to come to terms with Chuck's death and get better while Jimmy was never really able to process it or deal with his feelings of guilt(which he also projected on to Howard)
@@jordanl1911 Oh, I know all that about what it is that fueled Jimmy’s bogus resentment of Howard, but I found _any_ acknowledgment of his envy towards Howard at all to be surprising because he did, in truth, envy Howard, even if the exact cause of that envy is much more complex than he lets on. Though upon reflection, I think you’re partly right as well. I think it was him showing _just enough_ of himself to play a sympathy card. It’s worth noting that Kim is looking at Jimmy as he says this, possibly seeing it as either genuine or a “play”, likely motivating her to further manipulate the situation in their favor, playing into the con of the moment, hurting Howard’s widow in the process. I just love how rich the subtext of so much of this show is. It can be analyzed and interpreted endlessly.
@@BareBandSubscription fair enough.. yeah, Im sure there was truth in it..but he wasn''t being honest either (if that makes sense). Like most skilled liars/manipulators he knows how to mix in just enough truth to make his line of BS believable, and even sympathetic. It was like his speech to the Law Board so he could practice again. He revealed something personal but in a dishonest way(and used Chuck)
Never bought the BS resolution here to Howard's death. It screams setup anyway you slice it. Gaslighting Cherryl can only go so far while she's off her game with grief. But the second she calms down and realizes Kim is full of BS, .she wouñd go after both of them guns blazing (were the bowling balls a cocaine hallucination too?), nevermind friends of Howard who would dig into the matter (between a wife and friends, there's no hiding a drug problem as severe as the one they pinned on Howard).
@@el_killorcure The bowling bowls don’t have to be related to Howard having a drug problem. Jimmy all but admitted to pranking Howard when he played his sympathy card to Cheryl. It doesn’t mean she’d naturally believe they came up with this absurdly elaborate scheme to make him look high one time at a meeting, especially with Cliff seemingly backing up claims of Howard’s “suspicious activity” (albeit, he did so with a clear non-answer). There are two episodes left, so it’s entirely possible that Kim and Jimmy still get found out, but even if they don’t, I really don’t find it hard to believe that such a meticulous, sociopathic-level plan could go by with only modest suspicion. It’s not like it doesn’t happen in real life.
This episode did absolutely nothing wrong in my personal opinion. It's just perfect closure for a of things. Kim's exist from the show is so realistic for me. In the hand of lesser creators, her character would have been killed off. The way she left is heartbreaking (we know how she and Saul felt). The wine scene for me is that Gus finally got a sense of freedom from all the shit, and he just wanted to return to his old life. Also, the story about the wine was great for me. Finally, thanks for this great channel, and I like your tiktoks a lot.
This show has done a great job at characterizing Mike in a way that adds to the tragedy/patheticness of how he died in Breaking Bad. That was already an effective moment, showing Walt’s pettiness and all, and now after BCS it makes it just a bit more sad
Mike was very careful, wary. and guarded, he had sixth sense in most of Better Call Saul. Yet in Breaking Bad Mike let his guard down at the end. Mike died along a river......died quite like analogy to a River of Jordan he was not allowed to cross. What a ride Jonathan Banks provided to us, and an emergency casting at that.
My guess was for the season that the first 10 episodes would be in the BCS/BB timeline and play like a normal season and have the final 3 episodes closing out the Gene timeline.
I thought the Gus and waiter scene was a set up for the rare tequila....that he will eventually gift Don Eladio with, to poison and kill him, as well as to humanize him and show that he won't allow himself to enjoy, or go with a moment. Ultimately he has made up his mind that his life is all about revenge, so there's no room for anything else.
9:14 It was similar to what he said to Gus in Breaking Bad Season 4. "Once every 20 years you forget your place. There's no place for emotion in this. Business is business."
Best episode of the Season. So rich in character. Point & Shoot prioritized action over character. This episode did the opposite. Both are valid. Seeing Gus try to make a romantic connection, but choosing not to because of what happened to Max really highlights what it means to pursue the life he's chosen to pursue. What does a two decade long pursuit of revenge cost? What is the potential consequence of making a romantic connection with someone while being entrenched in a criminal lifestyle? Gus can't live the life he wants to. I think that's important to highlight.
I believe the wine scene was to show that if you love someone, you'll lose them if you choose to be a criminal, so it's better to be alone like Saul was in the end
Yes! Gus stays alienated and reserved while Saul indulges in sex with prostitutes. Yet they 'achieve' the same goal - they have no one who might be hurt.
Hi Cody - loving your BCS stuff. I think this show was always going to take its own route to the finish line, and reckon its ending will have a very distinct feel from BB. For me the wine scene was Gus momentarily allowing himself the pleasures of an ordinary (albeit rich) man - relaxing that tight grip he keeps on himself. The celebratory wine bottle her refers to - that could either be shared with some he loves, or be cracked open when the Salamancas are finally destroyed. We see him opt inevitably for the latter of those two. Yes it did go on a bit, but GE's performance was immaculate, and that final tableau of the wine bottle, etc was pretty heartbreaking. Oh, favourite line from rewatching the episode - Jimmy's 'What's done can be undone', totally without irony. A direct reversal of Lady Macbeth's 'What's done cannot be undone', when she's eaten up by guilt at the end of Shakespeare's play. Genius. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Maybe we’ll get more in the Gene timeline complete with a Gene and Kim reunion. But of course, that reunion will have to end tragically. I absolutely love never knowing what’s coming next.
You can tell that the end part is indeed a flash forward because Saul has his trademark bald spot and comb over. During the main events of the show Jimmys hair is still mostly there but in the flash forward he's back to his breaking bad balding.
It's obviously in the future what I was confused on was whether it was an isolated scene or its pushing the series to that timeline for the rest of the show.
I am almost certain that this is not the end of Kim's story. These writers are better than that and we may need to get ready for even bigger batch of final episodes. I was very pleased with the time jump and got so excited when I knew Breaking Bad has now entered. However, I felt conflicted on how things resolved with Kim and Jimmy in this episode. Oh well. We will need to wait instead of binge like the good old days.
As a Kim myself♡ ah, I hate breakups!! But I understand they are sometimes necessary. I'm proud of Kim for having the strength to walk away from her ties, her marriage with Jimmy. She has been my favorite part of the show, her complexity, her style. I miss her already. 😢
Gus was celebrating his victory over Lalo in the wine* scene. Just getting a taste of the normal life while he can relax for a minute and escape the paranoia of Lalo coming to kill him. But the end of the scene shows where his focus truly is.
Great reviews, this show is awesome. Wonder what it will be like to watch this show all over again when it ends then start watching breaking bad all over again.
I loved this episode perhaps even more than episode 8 which was incredible! Bob Odenkirk knocked it out the park and I loved how they incorporated the scene in breaking bad at end of episode. That was the 1st time Saul met Walter white! Pretty sure that is how scene started. Also don’t think that is end of current timeline we will see more.
I have a feeling Kim’s going to resurface in the later timeline. That was too abrupt of an out for her. It makes sense logically that she’s gone now, but these guys care about making satisfying tv just as much as they care about making logical stories
Kim is definitely coming back. Her ultimate outcome is still totally unresolved and if you watch the American Greed parody special about Jimmy McGill, Kim’s name is mentioned with some amount of a negative inflection. Something more happens with her. I’m starting to wonder if the next couple of episodes will actually flash back-and-forth between the new BB-era timeline and the previous BCS timeline.
There were only so many surprises they could give us in the BCS timeline. I'm glad they seemed to have skipped forward and plan to close the show out after BB
I think that with the 4 episodes left, we will see the Walter and Jesse cameos in separate episodes. Then the final episode will be all about GENE Next episode: We'll see the Jesse only appearance The episode after: The Walter only appearance (likely at A1A carwash) After that: The scene with both Jesse and Walter Final Episode: All about GENE
it does feel like an epilogue for the last episode. but i think we'll still have the peak of the series coming up, on the level of Ozymandias in breaking bad.
I would almost bet that wine conversation scene was the last scene with Gus they shot for BCS. Would make sense why it was a little long, if it’s Gus’ last scene they’d probably wanna cut as little as possible maybe? Who knows though he might come back before it ends lol
Even after his death, Jimmy and Kim went to his memorial service and still continued to tarnish his reputation in death! Unbelievable. Really hope the worst for Kim and Jimmy at this point. 😒
Gus' wine drinking scene was a bit slow, but I do get what they were getting it. He was taking a moment to relax and this guy was someone he liked or felt connected to; he gets up because he cant risk allowing himself to have feelings for someone, knowing it can be used one day as a way to go after him... leverage, a weakness. That was why he left
I personally loved this episode but I get your thoughts, I do think the problem with this show being attached to Breaking Bad is that people are always going to set themselves up for disappointment if they expect it to take the same route that BB did, but because BB is so good it's really hard not to. Personally I kinda went into this not expecting much action and I came out loving the episode
I think the scene with Mike and Nacho's father really hits harder when you think back to the earlier seasons with Mike's backstory and what happened to his son. It's a very heavy thing for his character to hear a father say there will be no justice for his sons death. The writing in this series continues to impress me
Yea same the Gus wine scene just wasn't it for me, but with me and these kind of scenes I try to find connections if I don't fully understand things, like I was thinking like what if that waiter brings out that tequila Gus would kill Eladio with and Gus would just hold onto it not knowing what to do then in breaking bad he sees that's what he could use
i feel like the wine scene might be the last we see of gus for the series. It may have gone on a little longer than it needed to and was a little boring like you said but it was well written and a good way to sort of indirectly confirm Gus' sexuality and his true relationship with Max, and it works as a good send off to his character cause its really the first time we see him being very natural and human. edit: Also i want to think that it ties back to the quote that Mike and Saul have said in this episode and earlier in the show. "One day you'll wake up, go about your day like normal, then suddenly you will realize that you haven't thought about it at all" I think when he took that last sip of wine he suddenly remembered Max and had that moment, he kinda had to remind himself what he was doing and why.
If this was any other series I would have hated Kim just leaving, I would have hated the time jump. With that said Gould and Gilligan are brilliant and I trust it will all come to fruition and the performances are going to be great. I love that it will put us in a place where we genuinely don't know what's going to happen to Saul or even Kim perhaps.
I feel that the wine scene would have won a lot more depth and layers if the wine had been chilean instead of french. Chilean wine is also internationally recognized, Gus being Chilean and the waiter not knowing about it was a missed opportunity
Except that Chilean wine isn’t nearly as internationally respected. Part of the scene was also to show that Gus was a connoisseur who appreciates quality. It’s an important part of his character, and that character doesn’t want wine from a budget region. He wants world renowned Bordeaux
Saul is about to meet Badger. Did you pick up on where he was talking about “the masturbator”? That’s who he thought Badger was when he saw him in jail.
Timeline is incorrect for this to happen. Sauls license plate says 2005 when he his driving to his office. he doesnt meet Badger until at least 2008. Maybe Jesse is the masturbator lol
The gus scene was great. Jared me at first but on reflection, had never see the human side to gus before and it was refreshing. I think your opnion could change cody. These writers always have a way of throwing us off which is why we love this universe.
In the episode "Green Light" in Breaking Bad, Saul mentions he had a second wife. Perhaps we'll get to see her in an upcoming Better Call Saul episode.
I mostly agree with your review except I dont see slow pace as frustrating, it was always one of the reasons I loved the show so everything's fine here. What I find frustrating is the open end of Kim's story yes she left Jim no we don't need a scene with her boarding a plane but I want to know what happens to her next. Well maybe they will still shows us. Or maybe they are setting up a new spinoff of a spinoff ;) As for the wine scene I admit I even failed to catch the purpose of it. If the purpose was as you described yeah we certainly don't need it at this point, that's probably why it didn't even occur to me that's what they were trying to show.
I agree with some of the tense moments are kind of lost when you know which characters are in BB. Would definitely recommend some new to the series watch BCS first no doubt
I really don't understand how this episode could frustrate you, it's so solid in paying off every character moment. Better Call Saul is a show about character moments, less high octane insanity. Even my biased Breaking Bad preferring brain knows this episode was essential, you couldn't have some high intensity episode. You just needed emotional impact for this episode, and this episode was a gut punch, just like when Walt clashed with Skyler, just less bombastic
I also was torn on this episode. I felt Kim’s fate was anticlimactic but it made all the sense in the world. I loved the Gus sit down scene. The wine scene was just like, huh??
"Then we woukd of broke up" Kim was planning to break up with jimmy after the receiving the sandpiper money. She clearly states that she loves Jimmy but never on a romantic level
Nah I think she liked using jimmy like a drug. But I dont think she truly realized how much she loved the other things ( the late night movies, ice cream etc) until it was time to say goodbye .
You completely misinterpreted that line. What she said was "You would have ended the scam and we would've broken up." Meaning she knew that he knew that his refusal to go along with the scam would mean that she would get pissed and dump him. That's why he reluctantly went along with it. It wasn't about the sandpiper money. It was about fucking with Howard.
@@jakecorenthose2901 i didnt misinterpret jack dude. Even if you take the sandpiper money out of it, she says they would of broke up. You say cause she would of been pissed of the howard con not going through. That PROVES she doesnt love Jimmy on a romantic level. Her love for jimmy is drectly tied to there cons. Breaking up.over a con not going through... does that sound like a loving wife
@@devontemoericke493 "i didnt misinterpret jack dude." Saying that she was going to leave him once she got the money and saying she was gonna leave him for not validating her desire to fuck over Howard are different things. lol
@@jakecorenthose2901 read between the lines sir. THE ONLY reason Kim married Jimmy was for the sandpiper money! She would of broke up with Jimmy because there was no reason to delay breaking it off if there gna fuck with howard. Keyword break off, not divorce. She could still be married to him in bb. But i digress She was gna break it off with Jimmy til she realized she mise well get the sandpiper money.
Mike's moral compass?!!!! You mean the self-gaslighting of him pretending he has one! He's been established to have been a dirty cop long before his son bought it, never regretted that once. Him working for Gus was 100% his choice, there was nothing pushing or coercing him in that direction other than "how can I best enhance my chances of really messing with Hector?". Him being nice about Nacho was simply him projecting his hurting over his dead son onto Nacho. He was what Nacho's father said: just another gangster...
This guy doesn't seem to recognize exactly what's going on in this episode. It's not just "an epilogue" to the previous 2 episodes. That just means you missed every bit of new information that came from this episode -- and I would say this episode pertains more to each of these characters (Jimmy, Kim, Gus, Mike) and who they are during breaking bad than even the previous 2 did. There's no way to tell that story without slowing it down and watching each of them try to process the hell that just took place. Go watch Die Hard 2 if you want things to just happen for no reason. This show is about characters changing thru choices & consequences. And more change took place here than just about any episode to-date -- especially for Saul Goodman.
I was just disappointed on how Kim left. I was hoping for something more crazy on her departure. What I took from the wine scene is that he wants to be with a man whether it was that waiter, he can’t because of what he does for work. That his life is drug dealing.
I think the whole Wine scene serves a purpose more than showing Gus is maybe Gay it also showed that he is able to now decompress a little bit after how paranoid he's been over the last so many episode
I agree that the pacing was deathly slow considering where we are at. It was all fairly predictable. I personally didn’t get the feels I thought I would and maybe it’s because the breakup was so telegraphed and the Mike scene with Nacho’s dad was pretty unemotional for the sake of making the point about gangsters being gangsters. I was great in all the usual ways but not the classic some are saying it is imo.
I thought they should've ended the episode with the breakup. Doing the time jump to the start of the Breaking Bad timeline was a bit abrupt and awkward. It felt like that should've been the opening scene of the next episode. My favorite moment was the conversation between Mike and Nacho's Dad. I have a feeling the series is going to end with Saul turning himself in.
I'm with you on the wine scene. I don't like seeing vulnerability in Gus. Yes I know some people like complexity in characters. Give me just a bad ass Gus! No more sensitive men for at least 1 show please.
The wine scene was filler, actually killer filler, zapped the whole momentum of this episode Much more time could have been spent with Papa and Mike discussing in depth the next move with the Manitoba drivers licensee. I say this as Mike and Papa have much more in common now, both lost their only sons, plus Papa may still have to leave town much like Mike had to leave Philadelphia. But this whole timeframe of story may be concluded.
I was personally pissed about the gus gay thing, I don't care about gay characters I'm not against it in any show or movie, but to take a main character a huge character in both bb and bcs and say oh hey he was gay the whole time. in the final episode of the whole bb an bcs universe. make a new character gay don't take a legacy character an make him secretly gay the whole time
I hated the wine scene. The gay angle I always thought was stupid. Living in Mexico is tough. If I watched my friend die after we clawed ourselves out of a life of poverty I would be bent on revenge like Gus as well. Sexual orientation should have nothing to do with Gus's angst. This character trait seems shoe horned in.
It's very easy to see that Max was Gus's lover. I always suspected Gus was gay. You can be hell bent on revenge for a friend, but his long and patient revenge game is clearly for someone he loved romantically. This wine scene showed that he really can't live the normal life he wants with this restaurant owner. He's dead set on vengeance.
Tell me you’re homophobic without telling me you’re homophobic. Do you have a problem with any of the other “sexual orientations” (aka everyone else is portrayed as heterosexual) on the show? I don’t see how this doesn’t fit his character in the slightest, other than you just don’t want him to be gay.
@@dberka210 just because he thinks the scene is stupid or phoned in for the sake of it, doesn’t make him homophobic. It’s just his opinion on the scene. If he said: I wouldn’t have wine with Gus, after I found out he was gay, would make him one. Do I think - it’s an interesting angle to Gus? Yes, I do. Do I think - it Should’ve it been explored more in the show? Yes, I do. The writers done a magnificent job exploring Saul, Kim, nacho and Mike, but Gus not so much. I think that’s where the other guy is coming from, when he said: it’s seems phoned in.
Love your content but I think you missed the point of the Gus scene a little bit. I didn’t necessarily get the sense that it was “well, I could have a normal life, but it’s back to business, I’m set on my revenge.” In the previous scene Don Eladio basically told him, “remember who’s boss.” In a word, “I own you.” So Gus goes to have a drink and essentially has a very human moment with someone he feels attraction to; moments like these for Gus are few and far between because he has to be so “on” all the time. But he knows that if he even dares to get close to someone like his previous partner, that person is just a potential casualty in the life Gus has built for himself. The “look” Gus has when the waiter leaves isn’t just a desire for revenge, but a mix of sorrow for the loss of humanity that he has had to give up for the business he is in. I believe it is supposed to paint Gus in a sympathetic light to the audience, despite all of the despicable things he has done. He is as much trapped in the life as everyone else. That was my takeaway from it, anyways.
Exactly. It gives depth to his character. That's what a scene is supposed to do.
This was the only scene where we actually see him enjoying himself in both of the series.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
Brilliant analogy!
I absolutely loved that whole scene. It’s really interesting how they’ve humanized Gus in this season. We’ve seen him fear for his life to the point of feeling unrest, and here we see him actually enjoy the company of a man he’s clearly attracted to, only to fall back into himself and leave. Scenes like that are a big part of this show’s success for me.
This and the previous two episodes are all 10/10. Seriously Better Call Saul puts the rest of television to shame.
This and the previous all episodes.
Its the best television can be.
I honestly didn't think this show would be better or even come close to BB. I thought it would just be Saul and a bunch of easter eggs. I was SUPER wrong. I'm so involved in this story and I think its a bit better than BB.
Dude, it’s amazing to me how much restraint these creators have, I mean to be able to slow the pace down and make us sit with these characters as they deal with the aftermath of their decisions and actions and how they’re gonna move forward and live with it.. Gould and the crew r just cut from a different cloth, to have the patience and confidence to make an episode like this with only a few episodes left is nothing short of brilliant in my opinion.. I thought this episode was great and even more so, absolutely necessary, to end this story in a satisfying way
The wine scene was basically Gus closing the lid on his own definition of what a normal life is forever. It was a small glimpse into this mans psychology and reminder to us viewers what could of been had this "monster" allowed himself on a different path. Really, Gus having this social moment, without any underlying mischievous motives, was in a way the closest we've ever came to know him. Another tragic figure in a brilliant, brilliant show. Wonderfuly written, executed and acted.
Love it! Also props to handsome Jack
Total bs. Are you taking film studies?
A lot of people credit mostly Vince Gillian or/ and Peter Gould for the writing. It's not only them. Gordon Smith has done Chicanery, Five-O, Coushatta, Bagman. Ann Cherkis did Fun and Games
Tom Schnauz did Bad Choice Road, Plan n Execution, Winner, Pimento.
nice job for posting this
Peter Gould is the main writer of this show . How does it work? The main plot of the entire season is written in advance by Peter Gould, all the highlights and twists. The main plot . The idea for each episode was created in advance by Peter Gould . The same can be said about Vince Gilligan in Breаking bad . When other writers get an episode they need to write, they add a bunch of details and give life to an idea that has already been created. This absolutely doesnt take away their merits, because in fact they really write the episode completely and then give Peter Gould to check whether they conveyed what he wanted to say.
This series surprised me when I started it two years ago. I've been recommending it to everyone. Highly underrated series for sure
One thing I will say for the wine scene is I don’t think we have ever seen Gus interact with any person in that way ever. That by itself made it worth it to me.
It's the only time he's seemed genuinely happy and not a fake "harmless Los Pollos Hermanos owner" act smile.
@@Xehanort10 Lol Gus shoulda offered that sommelier to try some of his delicious spice curls
I like the pause that gus took, i see it as a "im enjoying talking to this person and would like to continue but i can't do it because of the life i'm leading."
The breakup scene with kim and saul was great too.
Great video Cody. Was not expecting it to go this way. Things are moving really fast. Or is it just me??? I know there's only 4 episodes left but this going down like this basically garrentees a Kim an Gene reunion in the post BB episode, whenever that is. Unless something changes. One thing I do appreciate is how the show evolved when the two moral compasses in Jimmy's life went away. When Chuck died the BB universe was slowly infecting the show episode to episode. And now with Kim leaving we are fully in that timeline/world. He has nobody in his life and he is now that crummy crooked criminal lawyer we all love. And seeing him in his big lonely mansion just reassures that. This show and BB do that really well, they occasionally remind you this world is depressing and filled with loss, and we're watching it unfold. But as for the rest of the show, i don't know what to expect.
Loved this episode. My favorite of the season so far. They handled the Kim/Jimmy fallout perfectly and I was genuinely surprised that they decided to jump so far forward in one cut. I was also *very* happy and relieved that there was some kind of actual pay off for Nacho‘s death in this episode, in the scene between Mike and Nacho’s dad. It was a great character moment that gave Nacho’s death more a long-standing impact for Mike as a character, which I appreciated. I feel it only further enriches his relationship with Jesse in BB as well. This episode is just full of great character moments and insights. Jimmy actually having a sincere moment of regret and admitting to jealousy of Howard at the service was very surprising and welcome for me, and Kim very subtly shifting blame to Howard’s widow, knowing their marriage was falling apart, and basically planting a seed of guilt in the woman’s head for not noticing any “drug problem” Howard may have had was just so twisted. I feel that was absolutely when she decided she needed to get away from Jimmy. Her natural inclination to defend him made her cross yet another line of depravity. Great episode. 10/10. Can’t wait for next week.
I dont think that moment was sincere(maybe only partially) He was just playing the Chuck card, more or less. He really hated Howard because Howard was able to come to terms with Chuck's death and get better while Jimmy was never really able to process it or deal with his feelings of guilt(which he also projected on to Howard)
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Oh, I know all that about what it is that fueled Jimmy’s bogus resentment of Howard, but I found _any_ acknowledgment of his envy towards Howard at all to be surprising because he did, in truth, envy Howard, even if the exact cause of that envy is much more complex than he lets on. Though upon reflection, I think you’re partly right as well. I think it was him showing _just enough_ of himself to play a sympathy card. It’s worth noting that Kim is looking at Jimmy as he says this, possibly seeing it as either genuine or a “play”, likely motivating her to further manipulate the situation in their favor, playing into the con of the moment, hurting Howard’s widow in the process. I just love how rich the subtext of so much of this show is. It can be analyzed and interpreted endlessly.
@@BareBandSubscription fair enough.. yeah, Im sure there was truth in it..but he wasn''t being honest either (if that makes sense). Like most skilled liars/manipulators he knows how to mix in just enough truth to make his line of BS believable, and even sympathetic. It was like his speech to the Law Board so he could practice again. He revealed something personal but in a dishonest way(and used Chuck)
Never bought the BS resolution here to Howard's death.
It screams setup anyway you slice it.
Gaslighting Cherryl can only go so far while she's off her game with grief.
But the second she calms down and realizes Kim is full of BS, .she wouñd go after both of them guns blazing (were the bowling balls a cocaine hallucination too?), nevermind friends of Howard who would dig into the matter (between a wife and friends, there's no hiding a drug problem as severe as the one they pinned on Howard).
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The bowling bowls don’t have to be related to Howard having a drug problem. Jimmy all but admitted to pranking Howard when he played his sympathy card to Cheryl. It doesn’t mean she’d naturally believe they came up with this absurdly elaborate scheme to make him look high one time at a meeting, especially with Cliff seemingly backing up claims of Howard’s “suspicious activity” (albeit, he did so with a clear non-answer). There are two episodes left, so it’s entirely possible that Kim and Jimmy still get found out, but even if they don’t, I really don’t find it hard to believe that such a meticulous, sociopathic-level plan could go by with only modest suspicion. It’s not like it doesn’t happen in real life.
I had no conflict with this episode. I simply just thought it was amazing
This episode did absolutely nothing wrong in my personal opinion. It's just perfect closure for a of things. Kim's exist from the show is so realistic for me. In the hand of lesser creators, her character would have been killed off. The way she left is heartbreaking (we know how she and Saul felt). The wine scene for me is that Gus finally got a sense of freedom from all the shit, and he just wanted to return to his old life. Also, the story about the wine was great for me. Finally, thanks for this great channel, and I like your tiktoks a lot.
if its any consolation the showrunners said the last 4 episodes are nothing but "bananas"
This show has done a great job at characterizing Mike in a way that adds to the tragedy/patheticness of how he died in Breaking Bad. That was already an effective moment, showing Walt’s pettiness and all, and now after BCS it makes it just a bit more sad
Mike was very careful, wary. and guarded, he had sixth sense in most of Better Call Saul. Yet in Breaking Bad Mike let his guard down at the end.
Mike died along a river......died quite like analogy to a River of Jordan he was not allowed to cross.
What a ride Jonathan Banks provided to us, and an emergency casting at that.
My guess was for the season that the first 10 episodes would be in the BCS/BB timeline and play like a normal season and have the final 3 episodes closing out the Gene timeline.
I thought the Gus and waiter scene was a set up for the rare tequila....that he will eventually gift Don Eladio with, to poison and kill him, as well as to humanize him and show that he won't allow himself to enjoy, or go with a moment. Ultimately he has made up his mind that his life is all about revenge, so there's no room for anything else.
9:14 It was similar to what he said to Gus in Breaking Bad Season 4. "Once every 20 years you forget your place. There's no place for emotion in this. Business is business."
Best episode of the Season. So rich in character. Point & Shoot prioritized action over character. This episode did the opposite. Both are valid.
Seeing Gus try to make a romantic connection, but choosing not to because of what happened to Max really highlights what it means to pursue the life he's chosen to pursue. What does a two decade long pursuit of revenge cost? What is the potential consequence of making a romantic connection with someone while being entrenched in a criminal lifestyle? Gus can't live the life he wants to. I think that's important to highlight.
Oh snaps I didn't pick up on that lol
I believe the wine scene was to show that if you love someone, you'll lose them if you choose to be a criminal, so it's better to be alone like Saul was in the end
Yes! Gus stays alienated and reserved while Saul indulges in sex with prostitutes. Yet they 'achieve' the same goal - they have no one who might be hurt.
Hi Cody - loving your BCS stuff. I think this show was always going to take its own route to the finish line, and reckon its ending will have a very distinct feel from BB. For me the wine scene was Gus momentarily allowing himself the pleasures of an ordinary (albeit rich) man - relaxing that tight grip he keeps on himself. The celebratory wine bottle her refers to - that could either be shared with some he loves, or be cracked open when the Salamancas are finally destroyed. We see him opt inevitably for the latter of those two. Yes it did go on a bit, but GE's performance was immaculate, and that final tableau of the wine bottle, etc was pretty heartbreaking.
Oh, favourite line from rewatching the episode - Jimmy's 'What's done can be undone', totally without irony. A direct reversal of Lady Macbeth's 'What's done cannot be undone', when she's eaten up by guilt at the end of Shakespeare's play. Genius.
Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Did they do a trailer for the next episode after this episode like they usually do? Because then we’d know if there’s a time jump
Maybe we’ll get more in the Gene timeline complete with a Gene and Kim reunion. But of course, that reunion will have to end tragically. I absolutely love never knowing what’s coming next.
You can tell that the end part is indeed a flash forward because Saul has his trademark bald spot and comb over. During the main events of the show Jimmys hair is still mostly there but in the flash forward he's back to his breaking bad balding.
It's obviously in the future what I was confused on was whether it was an isolated scene or its pushing the series to that timeline for the rest of the show.
@@CodyLeachYT what your opinion so far of marvel phase 4 also what your favorite TV show of phase 4 and movies of marvel phase 4?
Thank you man. I like your reviews.
Special thanks for the reviews on "Dexter".
I feel your pain :)
I am almost certain that this is not the end of Kim's story. These writers are better than that and we may need to get ready for even bigger batch of final episodes. I was very pleased with the time jump and got so excited when I knew Breaking Bad has now entered. However, I felt conflicted on how things resolved with Kim and Jimmy in this episode. Oh well. We will need to wait instead of binge like the good old days.
Looks like we're getting Breaking bad Saul for the rest of the series 🤘🤓🤘
As a Kim myself♡ ah, I hate breakups!! But I understand they are sometimes necessary. I'm proud of Kim for having the strength to walk away from her ties, her marriage with Jimmy. She has been my favorite part of the show, her complexity, her style. I miss her already. 😢
Gus was celebrating his victory over Lalo in the wine* scene. Just getting a taste of the normal life while he can relax for a minute and escape the paranoia of Lalo coming to kill him. But the end of the scene shows where his focus truly is.
He was happy for a bit but then went back to his cold vengeful self.
Great reviews, this show is awesome. Wonder what it will be like to watch this show all over again when it ends then start watching breaking bad all over again.
I loved this episode perhaps even more than episode 8 which was incredible! Bob Odenkirk knocked it out the park and I loved how they incorporated the scene in breaking bad at end of episode. That was the 1st time Saul met Walter white! Pretty sure that is how scene started. Also don’t think that is end of current timeline we will see more.
I have a feeling Kim’s going to resurface in the later timeline. That was too abrupt of an out for her.
It makes sense logically that she’s gone now, but these guys care about making satisfying tv just as much as they care about making logical stories
Ice station Zebra, my money is on that. They wouldn’t completely blank each other. They’re still in touch.
Kim is definitely coming back. Her ultimate outcome is still totally unresolved and if you watch the American Greed parody special about Jimmy McGill, Kim’s name is mentioned with some amount of a negative inflection. Something more happens with her. I’m starting to wonder if the next couple of episodes will actually flash back-and-forth between the new BB-era timeline and the previous BCS timeline.
This episode was in ny opinion as good as the two previous, if not even better! I was as glued to the screen if not more.
There were only so many surprises they could give us in the BCS timeline. I'm glad they seemed to have skipped forward and plan to close the show out after BB
I think that with the 4 episodes left, we will see the Walter and Jesse cameos in separate episodes. Then the final episode will be all about GENE
Next episode: We'll see the Jesse only appearance
The episode after: The Walter only appearance (likely at A1A carwash)
After that: The scene with both Jesse and Walter
Final Episode: All about GENE
it does feel like an epilogue for the last episode. but i think we'll still have the peak of the series coming up, on the level of Ozymandias in breaking bad.
probably my favorite episode of the season
I would almost bet that wine conversation scene was the last scene with Gus they shot for BCS. Would make sense why it was a little long, if it’s Gus’ last scene they’d probably wanna cut as little as possible maybe? Who knows though he might come back before it ends lol
Even after his death, Jimmy and Kim went to his memorial service and still continued to tarnish his reputation in death! Unbelievable. Really hope the worst for Kim and Jimmy at this point. 😒
Gus' wine drinking scene was a bit slow, but I do get what they were getting it. He was taking a moment to relax and this guy was someone he liked or felt connected to; he gets up because he cant risk allowing himself to have feelings for someone, knowing it can be used one day as a way to go after him... leverage, a weakness. That was why he left
I personally loved this episode but I get your thoughts, I do think the problem with this show being attached to Breaking Bad is that people are always going to set themselves up for disappointment if they expect it to take the same route that BB did, but because BB is so good it's really hard not to. Personally I kinda went into this not expecting much action and I came out loving the episode
Did anyone else catch that Gus used his turn signal when driving to the gate at the cartel meet
Jimmy ends up in Nebraska and wasn't Kim from Nebraska originally?
I think the scene with Mike and Nacho's father really hits harder when you think back to the earlier seasons with Mike's backstory and what happened to his son. It's a very heavy thing for his character to hear a father say there will be no justice for his sons death. The writing in this series continues to impress me
Yea same the Gus wine scene just wasn't it for me, but with me and these kind of scenes I try to find connections if I don't fully understand things, like I was thinking like what if that waiter brings out that tequila Gus would kill Eladio with and Gus would just hold onto it not knowing what to do then in breaking bad he sees that's what he could use
I'm hoping they show Saul discussing Walt with Gus!
Thought it was a great episode. Wraps up the better call saul period and now they can shift forward in time
Goodbye Jimmy , Hello Saul
I think that wine scene can be referred to gus getting wine knowledge and then poisoning eladio in breaking bad
The Gus scene is reference to the drink he will use to poison the cartel that was my takeaway.
No. Gus doesn't poison them with wine -- they were talking about wine in the wine bar
@@dashriprock8596 ah, okay, I thought the special bottle he was talking about was the bottle to poison of the cartel
i feel like the wine scene might be the last we see of gus for the series. It may have gone on a little longer than it needed to and was a little boring like you said but it was well written and a good way to sort of indirectly confirm Gus' sexuality and his true relationship with Max, and it works as a good send off to his character cause its really the first time we see him being very natural and human.
edit: Also i want to think that it ties back to the quote that Mike and Saul have said in this episode and earlier in the show. "One day you'll wake up, go about your day like normal, then suddenly you will realize that you haven't thought about it at all" I think when he took that last sip of wine he suddenly remembered Max and had that moment, he kinda had to remind himself what he was doing and why.
If this was any other series I would have hated Kim just leaving, I would have hated the time jump. With that said Gould and Gilligan are brilliant and I trust it will all come to fruition and the performances are going to be great. I love that it will put us in a place where we genuinely don't know what's going to happen to Saul or even Kim perhaps.
I don't even feel bad saying I was more invested in Kim and Jimmy's relationship than Howard and Lalos lives. Okay maybe I miss Lalo
The wine scene was the last time we're gonna see Gus in BCS
I loved this episode. Can’t wait to see what’s next.
I think the final two episodes are written by Vince and Peter respectively.
I feel that the wine scene would have won a lot more depth and layers if the wine had been chilean instead of french. Chilean wine is also internationally recognized, Gus being Chilean and the waiter not knowing about it was a missed opportunity
Except that Chilean wine isn’t nearly as internationally respected. Part of the scene was also to show that Gus was a connoisseur who appreciates quality. It’s an important part of his character, and that character doesn’t want wine from a budget region. He wants world renowned Bordeaux
Chilean or not -- it was a waste of time.
Saul is about to meet Badger. Did you pick up on where he was talking about “the masturbator”? That’s who he thought Badger was when he saw him in jail.
Timeline is incorrect for this to happen. Sauls license plate says 2005 when he his driving to his office. he doesnt meet Badger until at least 2008. Maybe Jesse is the masturbator lol
The breakup of Jimmy and Kim is perhaps the most momentous thing that's ever happened on the show.
No IT'S not.
The gus scene was great. Jared me at first but on reflection, had never see the human side to gus before and it was refreshing. I think your opnion could change cody. These writers always have a way of throwing us off which is why we love this universe.
Boring and pointless.
It seems like the remaining episodes could be an epilogue where we see the fate of Gene and hopefully Kim after Breaking Bad
Love this one.
Always love your reviews Cody. This second half of that final season is near perfection to me. Gilligan and Gould are probably the best writers on TV.
In the episode "Green Light" in Breaking Bad, Saul mentions he had a second wife. Perhaps we'll get to see her in an upcoming Better Call Saul episode.
Wasnt it mentioned in JMM that he already divorced before getting with Kim?
@@juu4503 Yes. Kim is his third wife
She packed up Jimmy's stuff, not hers.
this episode broke my heart.
I mostly agree with your review except I dont see slow pace as frustrating, it was always one of the reasons I loved the show so everything's fine here. What I find frustrating is the open end of Kim's story yes she left Jim no we don't need a scene with her boarding a plane but I want to know what happens to her next. Well maybe they will still shows us. Or maybe they are setting up a new spinoff of a spinoff ;) As for the wine scene I admit I even failed to catch the purpose of it. If the purpose was as you described yeah we certainly don't need it at this point, that's probably why it didn't even occur to me that's what they were trying to show.
I agree with some of the tense moments are kind of lost when you know which characters are in BB. Would definitely recommend some new to the series watch BCS first no doubt
This was still a strong episode regardless although minor nitpick would be that I wish the gus wine scene was just a little shorter
Cody you should do something special for the series finale on August 15th.
Hoping Tuco is back at some point in the last 4 Episodes! And Saul does not get introduced until season 2
What's ironic n tragic is Mike's moral code he lives by n the audience loves him for is wat gets him killed in the end
What moral code?
I really don't understand how this episode could frustrate you, it's so solid in paying off every character moment. Better Call Saul is a show about character moments, less high octane insanity. Even my biased Breaking Bad preferring brain knows this episode was essential, you couldn't have some high intensity episode. You just needed emotional impact for this episode, and this episode was a gut punch, just like when Walt clashed with Skyler, just less bombastic
That can’t be it for Kim. Can it? Like that’s it?
I also was torn on this episode. I felt Kim’s fate was anticlimactic but it made all the sense in the world. I loved the Gus sit down scene. The wine scene was just like, huh??
"Then we woukd of broke up" Kim was planning to break up with jimmy after the receiving the sandpiper money. She clearly states that she loves Jimmy but never on a romantic level
Nah I think she liked using jimmy like a drug. But I dont think she truly realized how much she loved the other things ( the late night movies, ice cream etc) until it was time to say goodbye .
You completely misinterpreted that line.
What she said was "You would have ended the scam and we would've broken up." Meaning she knew that he knew that his refusal to go along with the scam would mean that she would get pissed and dump him. That's why he reluctantly went along with it.
It wasn't about the sandpiper money. It was about fucking with Howard.
@@jakecorenthose2901 i didnt misinterpret jack dude. Even if you take the sandpiper money out of it, she says they would of broke up. You say cause she would of been pissed of the howard con not going through. That PROVES she doesnt love Jimmy on a romantic level. Her love for jimmy is drectly tied to there cons. Breaking up.over a con not going through... does that sound like a loving wife
@@devontemoericke493 "i didnt misinterpret jack dude."
Saying that she was going to leave him once she got the money and saying she was gonna leave him for not validating her desire to fuck over Howard are different things. lol
@@jakecorenthose2901 read between the lines sir. THE ONLY reason Kim married Jimmy was for the sandpiper money! She would of broke up with Jimmy because there was no reason to delay breaking it off if there gna fuck with howard. Keyword break off, not divorce. She could still be married to him in bb. But i digress She was gna break it off with Jimmy til she realized she mise well get the sandpiper money.
Mike's moral compass?!!!!
You mean the self-gaslighting of him pretending he has one!
He's been established to have been a dirty cop long before his son bought it, never regretted that once.
Him working for Gus was 100% his choice, there was nothing pushing or coercing him in that direction other than "how can I best enhance my chances of really messing with Hector?".
Him being nice about Nacho was simply him projecting his hurting over his dead son onto Nacho.
He was what Nacho's father said: just another gangster...
I hope the show ends with Saul in the future reuniting with Kim.
Maybe they could share a prison cell -- how romantic.
This guy doesn't seem to recognize exactly what's going on in this episode. It's not just "an epilogue" to the previous 2 episodes. That just means you missed every bit of new information that came from this episode -- and I would say this episode pertains more to each of these characters (Jimmy, Kim, Gus, Mike) and who they are during breaking bad than even the previous 2 did. There's no way to tell that story without slowing it down and watching each of them try to process the hell that just took place. Go watch Die Hard 2 if you want things to just happen for no reason. This show is about characters changing thru choices & consequences. And more change took place here than just about any episode to-date -- especially for Saul Goodman.
I was just disappointed on how Kim left. I was hoping for something more crazy on her departure. What I took from the wine scene is that he wants to be with a man whether it was that waiter, he can’t because of what he does for work. That his life is drug dealing.
.... Good review Cody!
Kim got that sandpiper money and split next damn day lol
I think the whole Wine scene serves a purpose more than showing Gus is maybe Gay it also showed that he is able to now decompress a little bit after how paranoid he's been over the last so many episode
I agree that the pacing was deathly slow considering where we are at. It was all fairly predictable. I personally didn’t get the feels I thought I would and maybe it’s because the breakup was so telegraphed and the Mike scene with Nacho’s dad was pretty unemotional for the sake of making the point about gangsters being gangsters. I was great in all the usual ways but not the classic some are saying it is imo.
I thought they should've ended the episode with the breakup. Doing the time jump to the start of the Breaking Bad timeline was a bit abrupt and awkward. It felt like that should've been the opening scene of the next episode. My favorite moment was the conversation between Mike and Nacho's Dad. I have a feeling the series is going to end with Saul turning himself in.
It's time jumped 8 months currently the year 2005
Oh man awesome shirt lol 😆
His car tag says 2005. So not a big time jump little under a year from 2004.
This guy gets it
The trailer for Halloween ends drops tomorrow buddy
Another RUclipsr has not seen BB. Pretty interesting perspectives.
My thoughts on this episode exactly.
I'm with you on the wine scene. I don't like seeing vulnerability in Gus. Yes I know some people like complexity in characters. Give me just a bad ass Gus! No more sensitive men for at least 1 show please.
I thought Gus partner was his brother because of the name Hermanos
I think I’m by myself, I did not like this episode. Especially the time jump.
the wine scene was strictly for woke purposes
Ok
bro dont be a complainer because not every episode has a character die
The wine scene was filler, actually killer filler, zapped the whole momentum of this episode
Much more time could have been spent with Papa and Mike discussing in depth the next move with the Manitoba drivers licensee. I say this as Mike and Papa have much more in common now, both lost their only sons, plus Papa may still have to leave town much like Mike had to leave Philadelphia.
But this whole timeframe of story may be concluded.
I was personally pissed about the gus gay thing, I don't care about gay characters I'm not against it in any show or movie, but to take a main character a huge character in both bb and bcs and say oh hey he was gay the whole time. in the final episode of the whole bb an bcs universe. make a new character gay don't take a legacy character an make him secretly gay the whole time
I hated the wine scene. The gay angle I always thought was stupid. Living in Mexico is tough. If I watched my friend die after we clawed ourselves out of a life of poverty I would be bent on revenge like Gus as well. Sexual orientation should have nothing to do with Gus's angst. This character trait seems shoe horned in.
It's very easy to see that Max was Gus's lover. I always suspected Gus was gay. You can be hell bent on revenge for a friend, but his long and patient revenge game is clearly for someone he loved romantically.
This wine scene showed that he really can't live the normal life he wants with this restaurant owner. He's dead set on vengeance.
Tell me you’re homophobic without telling me you’re homophobic. Do you have a problem with any of the other “sexual orientations” (aka everyone else is portrayed as heterosexual) on the show? I don’t see how this doesn’t fit his character in the slightest, other than you just don’t want him to be gay.
@@dberka210 I really do not care what you think. Please do not respond again. I will not read it either way.
Looks like I hit a nerve.
@@dberka210 just because he thinks the scene is stupid or phoned in for the sake of it, doesn’t make him homophobic. It’s just his opinion on the scene.
If he said: I wouldn’t have wine with Gus, after I found out he was gay, would make him one. Do I think - it’s an interesting angle to Gus? Yes, I do. Do I think - it Should’ve it been explored more in the show? Yes, I do. The writers done a magnificent job exploring Saul, Kim, nacho and Mike, but Gus not so much. I think that’s where the other guy is coming from, when he said: it’s seems phoned in.
Hector murdered Gus’s brother. Not his lover. The waiter though was a bit off, I think some goofy stuff might be going on there
Max wasn't his brother
It was not Gus' brother
Max was Gus’s partner/lover, and there was implied sexual attraction between the waiter and Gus. Gus has always been a gay man in the BB/BCS universe.
Not his real brother. XD
Remember Hector called them butt buddies once. lol