What saving did they need? These are Kingsguard. They are the elite of the elite, and could cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by two of them.
Arun R. Well in a 1v1 fight Bron killed one of the best knight in umm....that sky door castle place, and Meryn Trant got ganked by a little girl in a brothel. So do the math.
Bronn is a very smart fighter. He deliberately moved to a close distance and concealed a short dagger. If Cersei hadn't stepped between them, Bronn would have killed them before they could draw their swords.
If there's one thing we know about Bronn is he's actually a very rational person and approaches every situation carefully. So the fact that he even considered laying a hand on the hilt of that dagger shows us that he genuinely believed he could take them both.
Another thing we know is the fact that he knows _when_ to fight. He won every fight he got himself into and never got himself into a fight he couldn't win. E.g. when he declined to fight the mountain. Meaning there is a high chance that he would have killed those two with ease, as there was almost no reward, which means he considered them to be of even lower risk.
@@tubeyoukonto I mean the bodyguard of the hand of the king attacked by two kings guard trying to enter said Hand's residence killing them both with a dagger.... thats embarresing. It'd get swept under the rug as two inept guardsmen picking a fight with a fellow man of title and loosing to a dagger. Plus the fact of the matter would be a lot of them would be impressed and realize he's not someone to fuck with lightly.
Easily. Just by going for their longsword for a figth that close shosw that these guys are indeed more usebal for beating little girls than figthing men.
To be fair the kingsguard (in the show at least) never really actually do any Kingsguarding aside from the bran flashback with Arthur Dayne. Infact, looking at Barristan and Jamie, getting kicked out of the Kingsguard seems to just make you more badass
Bronn goes exactly by Tyrion's words: "Never forget who you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like an armour, and it could be never used to hurt you." Bronn is so honest about his position that even after having a knighthood he didn't change a bit.
I could see how he would though. Stuff sword draw of the guard on the left (weak side of guard on right), slit his throat with quick dagger. Push mortally wounded guy into guy who likely has sword drawn thus not giving him space to use sword and allowing Bronn to close distance. Sink knife through slits in other guards helmet. As fast as Bronn is, i wouldn't put it past him. Being a cutthroat is "exactly what [he] is" afterall.
if i was the kingsguard i wouldnt draw my sword in such close quarters, id take a boxing stance guarding my throat. Only drawing it once i get a good distance from punching bronn while he falls.
These are Kingsguard. They are the elite of the elite, and could cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by two of them.
"You're an upjumped cut throat" "That's exactly who I am" Gotta love Bron. Never denies who he is or the immoralities of life. Arguably the most honest character in GoT.
@@Hirnlego999 that’s the character of Bronn, he is a cutthroat sellsword who will look after his own interests more than anyone else’s, and he’s honest about that aspect of himself from the get go. It makes sense for him to leave Jaime and Tyrion seeing their opposing force (Danny). So you can say that Bronn is the person who’s most true to their character, and honest in that sense.
@@jayanthinarayn5961 Nope, don't agree. Obviously Cersei knows about their history and is one who shouldn't trust Bronn at all, it would be better to have him killed. Certainly she knows that at least Tyrion is good with words. And it doesn't even make sense how he can just march right up to Tyrion in the last season at all, is he that unguarded. Would he be allowed to hit him in the nose? Nope, the only reason Bronn stuck around so much is because viewers liked him, but they didn't really know what to do with him. Then obviously they make him master of coin, although he has no experience with this at all. Just lazy fan service. I don't think there is anyone that the show did not ruin in the end.
his plan was a quick draw throw/thrust to fast to deflect with bulky armor on and a heavy longsword then move on to the next guy for one on one. he has no bulky armor restricting his movements he would have put the dagger in one of their throats and took the next on
白海塔 I was thinking the same when Trant got killed a couple weeks ago. But recall, he was beating Sansa in the throne room on Joffrey's command. That's why he used the line.
+THExJMC I've always wondered if he only referred to the Sansa-beating bit, or if maybe Bronn happened to see something in the brothel. In any case, it's a nice touch.
+Dongus the Hedgehog I think that was a poor idea by HBO. The books make no mention of Trant being a pedophile, or anything like that. It seems like to justify Arya's gruesome killing of Trant, they had to make him even more evil and unlikeable. I feel like they shoehorned the brothel scene.
I love the little details in this show that a lot of people miss. Bronn has a long sword on his hip but reaches for his knife then takes a step closer to them instead of try to gain distance. He would of slit both their throats before they could of even draw their swords. Goes to show how inexperienced those kings guards really are. Oberyn said and proved it himself. Long sword is a bad option in close quarters. Bronn and Oberyn, probably the smartest fighters in this show.
***** Hes used to fighting weaklings or unarmed people. No where near as experienced as real fighters like bronn or the hound. That inexperience of fighting real fighters is why hes a shitty knight and a fuckboi lol.
Fun fact: this is the only scene between Bronn (Jerome Flynn) and Cersei (Lena Headey) in the entire series, at her request. The two were romantically involved before they suffered what both acknowledge was an awful breakup. The two were never on set at the same time and never shared table reads. Headey apparently hated Flynn so much so that despite this scene's direction for Cersei to walk between the kingsguards, Headey deliberating walks behind and around the taller of the two guards and makes no eye contact on her exit.
@@XpLiZiTcOnTeNt7 I dunno, the entire reason he and Pod excuse themselves from the fancy folks at the Dragonpit was so he and Headey weren't on set together. When the scene starts, he says "I've been sent to welcome you to the meeting" then he and Pod exit just as Cersei is about to come on scene after Bronn drops them all off at the Dragonpit. It's also why instead of Cersei summoning Bronn to kill her brothers, she sends Qyburn to give him a ton of money and the crossbow. So, if they could be on set together, it's strange that they never are in S7 or S8 when they would have had the most reason to be in proximity to each other.
@@jasonjackson1708 just because they are capable of sharing words doesn’t mean that they want to. Shooting several takes of one scene is a much longer process than speaking to each other in passing.
I like how Bronn doesn't even try to hide that he's readying to draw his dagger. He's so confident that he can dispatch these armored goons that he dares them to try and stop him.
One of them is Meryn Trant, who's established as not actually being much of a fighter (Sandor makes fun of Syrio for getting killed by him in one of his conversations with Arya), so really it's more of a one-on-one, and Bronn is definitely better than most knights, esp. with the edge of dagger vs. longsword in close quarters.
Freal, there's no way, say, Barristan Selmy would've been as openly antagonistic or incompetent during his time. It really just underscores how far the kingsguard had fallen: they immediately jump to their reputation to intimidate/deter people instead of diplomacy (which could've also been influenced by Cersei's general attitude as well.)
@@Bonovasitch Interesting observation. I suppose there was also huge distrust between the two parties. Bronn knows that an attempt of life was made on Tyrion by a kingsguard, and the kingsguard of course doesn’t trust a lowly mercenary
The friendship between Bronn and Tyrion might be one of the greatest in tv history. No matter your opinion on either of their decisions, they both understood eachother and were realistic with eachother for the whole show.
***** aye, when I read that Bronn named his "son"(I parenthesis it cause its just a boy Lolly's kept... after she was raped...)Tyrion which made me shed a tear thinking Bronn still liked Tyrion... and made it so his name would live on... in a way.. if he died...
The Klespyrian Bronn and Tyrion was good, but I think Tyrion and Varys is unmatched. I feel like every time they're not screen together it's worthy of some award nomination. duckpwnd Theon? Who is that? You mean REEK?
@@NavyGunnersMateMan No they wouldn’t, Bronn would be way too quick and skilled for them. We’ve seen him kill two people at once with a dagger during the battle of Blackwater, he would’ve done it again.
@@NavyGunnersMateManIt must be pretty well-known how shitty of a fighter Meryn Trant is for someone in his position considering how Bronn and the Hound talk abour him. And "Who-is-it of Who-cares" has to be even worse. Besides, it's a close quarters encounter, they are wearing heavy armor and they are carrying longswords. By the time they start drawing their weapons Bronn would have already cut their throats.
@@NavyGunnersMateMan lmao bruh this not wwe fake stuff. fighting that close combat and the kingsguard is reaching for sword while bronn is reaching for dagger? bronn had seen many sieges, fought many battles and killed many more people than meryn trant. meryn trant has been doing nothing but beating children lmao. bronn would have killed one of them pretty quick and the other one would end up in swordfight. but then again, nowadays the kingsguard are garbage. btw why do you even watch wwe? that stuff fake and for kids.
He was one of the most honest characters in the series. Never pretended that he was someone he wasn't and was always upfront with people about his agenda- fight, get rich, get drunk and get laid.
Imagine that he smashed Cersei so hard offscreen that this was her only scene with him... in the entire series. Ol' Bronn must have made her eyes roll hard🤣
It's not only frankness, it's also a not si subtle threat. Something along the lines of "I AM a person who went around cutting throats, so maybe you should try to stand down instead of antagonizing me" I have no doubt he would've immediately gone for his throat, fulfilling his threat
@@Chokoboh the funniest part is that the kingsguards coincidentally lack armor in that precise area, probably because for security reasons their face must be visible to avoid impostors and help the king recognize them
Bronn is so badass here. He knew they weren't going to let him in but he walks towards the door anyways to close the distance between them so that by the time they are able to unsheathe their swords his dagger would have slit both their throats. Also he still had his hand on his dagger until they were a good distance away. Really shows how good and experienced a fighter Bronn is
Maybe he's experienced, but it wouldn't be enough. Remember that these are Kingsguard. The ELITE of the ELITE. One Kingsguard can cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by 2 of them. The elite Ser Meryn and Ser Boros would have been prepared for his dagger behind his back and ran him through.
Truth is the Kingsguard stopped being the "elite of the elite" once Robert took the crown. Currently, the only competent fighter on the kings guard is the Mountain and that is cuz he is unique in his own way
I always loved that Bronn carries a curved Nepalese Kukri on the small of his back. It's a fitting weapon for his character and looks exotic enough that you can imagine in world it came from some far away exotic place, he probably took it off someone he killed or won it gambling.
@@dustinlerch9272 That particular blade seems to be a Nepalese Kukri. Which is definitely a blade associated with the Gurkha's not Thracians or anyone else
Man it’s rough to read through so loving and optimistic comments now days after the series is over. How in love we used to be with the show…… rest in pieces GOT
He'd have fought the Mountain, too, if he felt the risk was worth the reward, but unlike Oberyn, Bronn was always realistic about the dangers. He knew one slip was all it would take, and even if he won, then what? Tyrion couldn't really offer him anything concrete, and he might actually lose on the deal overall even after winning the fight. He had a lordship and was already sitting pretty ... why f*** that up fighting an insanely dangerous opponent for someone who couldn't really even meaningfully pay him for it? There are people who'd put everything on the line just for friendship, but did anyone ever really believe Bronn was one of those types? It's just like he said: he liked Tyrion well enough. He just liked himself a little bit better.
Eric Pomainville Mmmm ... I wouldn't call it a lock. I'd have bet on Bronn over Gregor ... but I'd also have been biting my nails to the quick the whole fight. It would only have taken one slip, a fact Bronn well realized and Oberyn learned the very hard way.
Eric Pomainville i dont think bronn wouldve beaten the Mountain , the mountain is pretty much a beast im not denying bronn is a really good swordsman but the mountain wasnt really easy to defeat , it was just that Oberynn his fighting style suited the fight better than Bronns , besides Oberynn is a most likeely the strongest warrior from Dorne
Eric Pomainville In the books it's not that easy...they fight for a long time untill Gregor gets tired.. the fight is also with shields... and they do not reflect on the show how thick are the armor and the shield (they are massive and almost impossible to penetrate), or even how dangerous Gregor is, he spent the entire war butchering people in and off the battlefield, he's also really quick for a person of his size and with that armor... and being able to weild a great sword with one hand only... that's dangerous
Not really no.... It's just D&D failing to understand the books and being pretty shitty writers (aside from the fact that Jaime actually describes Trant as an adequate (Kingsguard) fighter.
Hmm from the books I got the impression they were average knights in ability that Balon Swan was the only one who was worth a damn. And it was Mandon Moore who Jamie said was the most dangerous after himself.
@@zacharyradford5552 I think he says Mandon is the most dangerous because you never know what he's thinking, his face doesn't give away any emotion. It's why he's so powerful as Cersei's catpaw. IIRC Meryn Trant is a decent fighter, however he's sly and cruel (as described by Jaime), while Boros Blount is old, fat, craven and a weak fighter.
@@S-Asker Yes, actually. Trant being an adequate fighter is not saying much. Yoren and Beric Dondarrion are "adequate fighters". I highly doubt they meant to imply Trant was an absolute useless knight, but he is just "adequate" and has the advantage of armor and a big sword, not above average skill. As someone else said he is also cruel and loyal, which is more so why he is kingsguard than his abilities.
He was more likely referencing Trant beating up Sansa after tearing up her dress in front of the entire court. Which was way earlier, in like season 2 or 3
Man, they didn't even know they were about to get smoked. Ser Bronn was just waiting to get close enough to slit their throats right as they drew their swords, what a legend.
Pretty sure that was someone else standing in for Bronn who wasn't Jerome. Both him and Lena signed contracts that stated they refuse to do any scenes together.
Ser Boros Blount. Maybe Bronn should offer up a little more respect. Two elite Kingsguard were ready to defeat him quite easily until Cersei interrupted. Lucky Bronn.
+Stannis Baratheon Agreed. The elite Ser Boros would have likely broken Bronn's hand immediately and disarmed him while Ser Meryn ran him through. Good thing Cersei saved him from a humiliating death!
Arun R. Ser Meryn Cunt got powned by a little girl. I doubt he would have offered much of a fight to Bronn. Besides, Bronn was going for a knife, they were drawing swords. Didn't anybody learn anything from the viper about close quarters?
The beauty of this scene is how Bronn leans in and gets close for a dagger fight. Those guards with they long swords all that armor won't stand a chance. Two jabs and they are out. Bronn is a no-nonesense fighter and I absolutely love it
WRONG, she saved Bronn's life. These are Kingsguard. The ELITE of the ELITE. One Kingsguard can cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by 2 of them. The elite Ser Meryn and Ser Boros would have been prepared for his dagger behind his back and ran him through.
+Arun R. WRONG Bronn would have DESTROYED THEM. Varys Jaime and even the Hound knew that Meryn trant sucks shit. Varys says that Jaime and Barristan were the only true fighters on the kingsguard. Jaime says Meryn is a shitty fighter and the hound said "any stable boy with a sword could beat 3 marth trants"
People say Bronn doesn't have any honor. But he does, in his own Bronnish way: he'd rather fight two Kingsguard than yield. The man's got pride in his skill as a fighter. It's all Bronn really has in the world.
I like what he does in the book; outwits Cersei's plan to kill him in a rigged trial by combat plot by killing the lord in charge of the plot then marrying the sister of his wife, inheriting the castle and lands after the wife ends up in Qyburn's lab. The funniest bit is that it is all off the page and we only get Cersei's reaction
He does have honour. Even in the trial of combat. He was clearly beating the knight, and looked at Lysa as though to say, “He’s had enough.” But she kept the fight going until Bronn killed him and pushed him out the moon door. Same when he said he wouldn’t kill an infant if ordered to without question. He’d ask how much.
Bron would happily run away from a figth he can't win. He said so himself. He just knew that these two "Kingsguard" were useless idiots that got their position because of loyalty to Cersei not because of their figthing capabilities. Going for a longsword when your opponent is rigth in your face is beyond stupid. A punch to the face would be more effective.
To the people saying they hated each other: "Flynn was in a relationship with Game of Thrones co-star Lena Headey; rumors spread about the relationship ending on bad terms some time before March 2014, resulting in the couple being kept apart on-set. However, Flynn rebuffed the claims, stating he and Headey had worked in a scene together, adding "And the last time I saw Lena we were speaking, so I wouldn’t believe everything you read, and like I said, [the media] can get pretty desperate for stories." He continued by calling Headey "…a wonderful person and a wonderful actress."" It's probably not true.
As famous actors/actress, outright say bad things about someone else on camera or in interview are probably amongst the fastest way to ruin both person career.
I've read both version of this story now. But obviously only one of them is clickbait-marketable, so I'm inclined to believe this more boring and tame take.
Bronn is actually a lot more honorable than people let on. He chastised Trant here for beating Sansa because he’s a full grown man while she’s a defenseless teenager, showing he actually does have morals unlike most other knights. Even if he does do what he does for money, he’ll always stick to the job as long as he was paid what he’s owed and wouldn’t do anything as dishonorable as beating children unless it was really made worth his while.
@@MoskHotel selmy wasn't banished, he just decided to leave westeros because he was pissed that the queen disregarded his skill as the second best swordsman in history in his prime.
***** The dancing master was just that. A dancing master. Bronn is a battle hardened killer. One o one, Bronn can get Trant on to his knees and give the slut a nice spanking before gutting him.
***** "Bronn is a sell sword, not a knight." My point precisely. Knights fight pretty. The best among them are the Killers. Sellswords have no choice but to be killers. And Bronn was at the top of his profession. "who proved himself as a capable fighter against syrio forel " Being better than a few common foot-soldiers and a fool armed with a wooden stick while you are armed and armoured in cold steel (the best kind by the way ie castle forged) is no vindication of your capabilities as a fighter. As for Syrio being first sword of Braavos ... Me bringing 50% grade and being the valedictorian just because the rest of the class brought below 30% is no vindication of my scholarly prowess. Now this may not be true of the Braavosi but it also may. As far as Braavos is concerned, it is primarily a city of traders, banking guilds and merchant princes who primarily purchase all their muscle from the sellsword companies and unsullied. "one of the seven royal kings guard" Thats no guarantee either. In the words of Jaime Lannister "he had opened the door and then had allowed the vermin to creep in". Else how does a Craven like Boros Blount get into the Kingsguard?
***** I refuse to believe that you lack even the bare minimum logical capacity, so I must conclude that now you're just trolling. For the last time I will say this: "Trant was in the top 0.01% or something" The king of Westeros and indeed the hand of the king are supposed to be ... what 0.00001% of the nobility. Then how is it that so many inept kings and hands have occupied those positions. You didn't answer my question as to how a craven like Boros Blount got in if the selection process hadn't succumbed to corrupt practices (eg cronyism, nepotism)? As for Jaime Lannister talking shit, for all his crimes, he was deemed worthy of knighthood at age 15 and even after months of being chained, underfed and being unwashed (infections) and having his hand bound in chains, he fought a humongous cow, that too a well trained one like Brienne of Tarth to a bloody draw (at least in the books). That too Brienne was in armour and he was in rags. I'd like to see you even run for half a mile after that, leave alone fight someone. So if Jaime Lannister speaks in his own mind (POV character) that Meryn Trant is shit, I think its safe to say he isn't talking shit. Besides that, if the Hound himself, the man who could take a sword to even the mountain and hold his own, says that Teryn Mant is a Joke, then there is good reason to assume he is. "You don't make kings guard without some serious talent." Same old lack of logic. Wont repeat myself. Maybe Trant is a good enough fighter, but thats about it. "He was trusted enough as a protector to accompany MACE TYRELL" Mace Tyrell is one of the characters people in Westeros give the least fucks about. Proves nothing. "He's jealous of Trant for becoming the head of the kings guard" Ehm. Jaime is Lord Commander. "Sell swords are foot soldiers" Last I checked, Trant spent the majority of his day on foot and that in a duel, Knights had to dismount and fight like anyone else. SellswordS. Plural. We are talking about one single sell-sword here. One who has faced knights on multiple occasions and has never failed to kill them. No point in arguing. Bronn whips Ser Meryn Cunt like a dog.
The moment he was within distance to reach out and touch them, they were already at a disadvantage against his dagger. Both were standing too close together and wearing swords facing each other, and so not only would Bronn be able to stop them from drawing swords by simply moving 1 step closer, they also wouldn't be able to draw blades unless they moved further apart. Meaning that Bronn could probably grab the guy on his left with his free hand and pull him close, stab the guy on the right in the neck, and then proceed to stab the guy on the left as he tried to wrestle free. Even from a non-medieval standpoint, that's just shoddy security. I worked with a guy who did professional security and one of the first things he explained was "You never stand shoulder to shoulder with another guard, and you always position yourselves spaced out enough that at least one of you has time to circle the guy trying to start the fight. Cause the moment you both stand next to each other his odds of even hitting 1 of you by accident increases. Plus he doesn't have to worry about hitting his own friend or getting in someone else's way."
@@royce9018Wrong, he grabbed the scabbard or holster with his left hand for stability and possibly confusion for which hand was drawing a knife... he would've at least sliced ones throat and possible stabbed or sliced the second before they could fully draw in such a tight area.
If the show established anything, it's that Meryn Trant was weak as fuck! No surprise that he'd be to dense to realize how fucked he was going to be against Bronn in that situation.
That Bronn reaches for his dagger shows perfectly how he’s actually a killer, whilst the other two are only able to look intimidating. He could slit both their throats in the time it takes to unsheathe their swords and swing the blade. This shows the difference between Tyrion’s logical practicality in hiring a cutthroat as a bodyguard, and Cercei’s ignorant favour towards grandeur, fostered through her sheltered upbringing
It's not a dagger but a short chopping blade. Not only good for slicing throats, but lopping off fingers and hands with a good swing. As well as a curve that would help angle his cuts into the weak parts of metal armor. I'm not an expert at fighting, but I see alot of gaps in that king's guard armor.
@@zombiehunter501 Looks like a Kukuri style, which would be real good. In Dungeons and Dragons Terms, Bronn is a Fighter who dipped a bit into Rogue for some Sneak Attack.
"You're no knight" - Meryn Trant, the guy that beats little girls to please his king (and just for fun), murders a sword trainer who is unarmed, and countless other horrible deeds I'm too lazy to type out or remember.
@@TheStarkiller96 To be fair he didnt need help. He stood and watched as the no name knights or w.e. got clapped and then he fought the Dace master who wasnt even out of breath. Grant it he also was armed with only a wooden sword
This man exactly laid out how to beat, or be killed by, the Mountain. He knew his limits and yet he still went up to two guys on full armor. He thought he could win.
Bronn, in little more than a scale shirt, just calmly stepping within three feet of two full-plated men without having even yet drawn his blade. Cersei's timing saved their lives more than they would ever know or appreciate. He was about to tear them apart.
Trant: "You're an jumped-up cut throat and nothing more" Bronn: "That is exactly what I am." This is why I love Bronn. He's the only character who's absolutely honest about who he is and what he does. He doesn't hide behind titles or codes, he doesn't make excuses, he's just who he is. In a place like Westeros, honesty like his is hard to come by, and that makes it valuable.
+Joey Fredrickson Agreed...Another example would be, when Tyrion asked would you have killed an infant without any question ?, he said, I'll ask how much! He is brutally HONEST !
These are Kingsguard. They are the elite of the elite, and could cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by two of them.
What I liked about this scene more than Bronn showing his has better weapon/situation choice than the Kingsguard is that he also kept a hold onto his weapon longer and didnt fully sheath it till he saw/felt the threat or opportunity leave
The twinges in bronn’s face as he faces these two stopping him.. the possibility occurs to him that he could be killed in this engagement, but he enjoys the thrill so he almost goes ahead anyway yet that little hesitation. Summoning all concentration and momentum for the next move.. great acting detail
I promise you the thought of being killed by either of these two didn’t cross bronn’s mind for a second. He doesn’t take fights he isn’t certain he will win. In close quarters like that they’d be dead before they could get their swords out
@@joshharrison619 It very likely crossed his mind in that he would shit on himself for losing his life in such an easy fight. I suspect Meryn Trant did a little research on Bronn since their later confrontation was also very telling. "Nobody threatens the king in the presence of the king's guard" "I am merely educating my nephew. Bronn, the next time Ser Meryn speaks...kill him. THAT was a threat! See the difference?" Ser Meryn looks wide-eyed at Bronn and Tyrion showing acknowledgement yet not uttering a sound...
First: That's not exactly close quarters. Second: He was about to start a knife fight against two Knights in full plate, armed with swords while he himself only had padded armour. If this wouldn't be a fantasy scenario he would have been the one who would have got absolutely dismantled.
Indeed they were heavwily armoured. And his dagger is slashing type of dagger. Effectively useless against plat armour. Sure the KG armour is not very optimised (plenty of weakspots not covered by plate) but there was also TWO of them...
Viggo Stark Because in reality you just simply slash a dagger across someone's throat in the blink of an eye and expect him to actually die from that? He might perhaps take one of them down in a surprise attack by aiming at a weakspot. He might also fail miserably doing so. And when the second guy comes into play he has all the advantages on his side.
CoIdHeat I think you are seriously underestimating Bronn, one of the most dangerous and unpredictable fighters around, against 2 'Knights' that were picked to be Kingsguard for political reasons
They could half sword or use any of the techniques you never see in film ruclips.net/video/c0n2JaRXIF0/видео.html issue is at least one would be dead before the fight started because swords are not at the ready.
These are Kingsguard. They are the elite of the elite, and could cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by two of them.
Bronn himself is one of the best fighters in the series, and extremely quick. While the kingsguard are usually good swordsmen, that isn't always the case. Cersei neutered the Kingsguard by filling it with toadies that she could control, but who didn't really belong there. Trent, for example, is an extremely poor swordsman (according to the Hound), and holds his position due to political favor rather than skill. Bronn would kill him easily. Especially given they get that close to Bronn with their swords still sheathed. Frankly, at that close range, Bronn would probably deliver a fatal blow to both of them before they finished drawing. You can be the best swordsman in the world, but it won't help you if you're dead before you've got your sword in hand.
As Oberyn Martell once said: 'Longsword is a bad option in close quarters.' Bronn has a longsword on his hip, but he doesn't reach for that. He goes for the dagger on his back. The Kingsguard both go for their longswords and although we don't see the fight take place, we know how easily Oberyn handled the Kingsguard in the brothel when he reached for a longsword and Oberyn managed to stab him in the wrist before the sword had even cleared its scabbard. He knows how to use which weapon at which time. And so does Bronn. Bronn has seen and been in enough fights to know when to pick them and which weapons are more effective in the given situation. If Cersei had left that room 1 min later, she would have found 2 dead Kingsguard in the hallway and Bronn covered in their blood. How he would've explained that situation, I don't know, but Meryn Trant and Ser Whatsit of Whocares would have been too dead to give a witness statement, lol.
Bronn has already given proof of how quick and fast at striking he is, therefore I guess he would have been able to take down one of the Kingsguards before the guard could fully drawn that long and heavy sword. Then, in a 1 vs 1 fight ... well, Ser Vardis fought Bronn with armour and honour, and we all know how that duel ended! xx
Ser Meryn literally has the swordsmanship of Jaime without his hand and assuming the other kingsguard is Boros Blount he's basically a useless cunt that has the honour of Joffrey's food taster (that worked well).
Read they had been in a relationship before the show. It ended badly. So bad, that it was agreed they would never have a scene together alone anytime on the show. Nor would they ever speak to each other.
@@jackleg2007 one comment said that Jerome ‘accidentally put it in her pooper’ and that’s why they hate each other. One the one hand it was probably said ironically, but I mean that’s so insanely far fetched, I don’t know if anybody could think of it as a joke.
Nah I don't like it that he does not joined the army against the death. He just only cares about himself and the money. For me the last seasons ruined bronn.
You can tell how Bronn is more skilled than the kingsguard from the fact that while they started drowing their swords, he proceeds drowing his kukuri instead, as prince Oberin said 'long swords are a bad option in close quarters', it takes more time to draw and they're harder to use at that distance. If it would have came to the fight, Bronn would have slayed the two of them while they were still drawing. Love this show and this kind of details
Trant and whosit would have been smoked. You see Bronn step in at the last moment while unsheathing his knife. He was gonna get so close that the knights couldn't fully draw their swords. Bronn won before Cersei even opened the door.
Nope, look at the positioning again. The whosit guard on the right can block the incoming slash attack, while simultaneously drawing his sword. And at the same time, Trant delivers a nose-hit with his sword's pommel, again while drawing it. Bad news bears for Bronn all around. On top of the fact that those guys had some neck protection from slicing: that leather/metal bit dangling from their helmets. Meaning, Bronn would have had to stab, not slice. And while he stabs one, ther other stabs him in return. All in all, Bronn maybe would have won, but probably would have lost.
@@VG-fk6nk 2 on 1 they may not need their weapons to knock him down for sure, or to just simply grab his knife arm (they may get somewhat injured in the process) then it'd be pretty much over.
@@Excalibursin Yep. And I mean they're fully armored. Metal plate. It's quite an uphill potential battle for Bronn. And in general, 2v1 means that you have to have an enormous advantage to win. Otherwise you're boned.
@@VG-fk6nk They are fully armored in fairly shit armor. There's metal but no real protection/gambeson under the armor to protect all the joints and other open spots. The helmets look like they are designed to direct weapon strikes into the head. The open bottom of the helm looks like it's designed to funnel any edge blade into the bottom/side of the head. The "knights" would be drawing their longswords from the same spot allow easy blockage of the draw as Bronn had moved himself up close. Multiple ways to stop the draw and kill the guy on the right in a couple seconds with a flick of the knife into the helm/neck area while maintaining control on the left. Even if the first stab on the right isn't fatal the next stab on the left side should be fatal. Getting stabbed in the face/neck/head is painful and bloody so the guy on the right would be dazed for a good bit allowing time for the finishing. The knights were not in a stance to deal with a physical impact as they were standing improperly while Bronn was already leaning in. That could just be the crappy way they portrayed fighting in the show though. The actors being bad at sword fighting is pretty par for the course in that tv show. One thing that is clear though is that Bronn is NOT the type to get into a fight unless he knows he will win. Consistently the character has shown that he is careful about picking his battles. Even though he thought he would likely take the mountain he declined because the odds and payment weren't good enough. THe fighting and 'strategies' really bothered in this show well before the writing itself.
@@ToolofSociety Maaaaaaybe Bronn wins, if we give him all the advantages you speak of. But probably, and realistically, he loses. All in all, he was lucky the fight didn't start. They would've killed his ass in 2 seconds flat.
I love how Lena Headey didnt even look at Jerome Flynn, in mind that their past still affects their work. It might be the only scene where these two characters were present that close to each other.
Gotta love the grin he gives, acting like he was just trying to get past, knowing they don't realise he just got close enough to take them both out lol
I noticed Bronn was getting closer and closer to them throughout the scene and is standing only like half a meter away when he's getting reading to draw his dagger. That's because he knows the closer he is to them the more advantageous his position is with a shorter weapon against two undrawn longswords. I don't know if they did this on purpose but it's a very clever detail. No wonder he won so many fights through sheer tactics, he really know his craft.
Oswell whent, gerold hightower, Arthur dayne, barristan selmy, Jaime lannister, lewyn martell,jonathor darry. some of the greatest warriors to ever fight in westeros. vs captain pedophile, "fuck the king" clegane, ser whosit of whocares,etc. not much of a contest, is it?
Bronn stood a good chance of killing them. The truth is the kingsguard has become a joke. A parody of itself ever since most of Aerys kingsguard died. The Kingsguard now are slightly skilled cutthroats who believe having a white cloak makes them untouchable.
***** As stupid as they might be, the members of the kingsguard are still some of the best swordsmen in the kingdoms. Bronn's cheap tricks works well against average soldiers and knights who do not know him but he wouldnt stand a chance against competent soldiers.
Victor Zambrano If confidence was all it took to vanquish powerful and outnumbering foes, Robb Stark would be king of all Westeros and even Essos by now. But hey, it's all a matter of opinion and discussion and who you're rooting for :) I so happen to be of the opinion that Bronn wouldnt. But who's to say for sure... after all, like I said, he's more than your average un-armoured street cutthroat with a knife
ghoawaynetcabo but robb stark doesnt fight like bronn, no? looking at this scene, he was already close enough for him ti kill them and they wouldnt have enough time to draw their swords i doubt u fought to studied sword fighting b4
john doe Their hands were on their swords- no hand free to break his arm. And dagger vs drawing a sword at close quarters - Dagger wins. Then there's Bronns comment about "better at fighting little girls", they're knights but haven't seen (as) many real fights like Bronn has. Lets not forget Bronn has already shown he can kill a guy wearing FULL Armour AND a shield with neither on his persons. & Ser Barristan Selmy could cut down 10 kingsguard... i think you're overrating them, slightly.
john doe Mhe Jamie is captain of the Kingsguard and any farmers son with a pitch fork could take him down as he is now. And Meryn was seen struggling with Syrio forello who was armed with nothing but a toy sword. I'm not familiar with the accomplishments of Ser Boros, but Bronn seemed to have little difficulty with the Champion of the vale, and in the books he seriously considered fighting the Mountain, the ff-ing mountain. If he has a chance against the Mountain (and Bronn wouldn't consider fighting if he had no chance ) than two measly Kings guards who most likely were appointed by favor, not merit are no problem. Besides Ser Barriston claimed he "could cut the 5 of them like carving a cake". While Barriston is certainly a badass, if he could easily defeat the 5 of them, Bronn should be able to take 2 of them.
john doe 1. Syrio was unarmed, Bronn is not. 2. Trant's face is exposed. 3. Their swords are hung in a position (on the inside) where they would actually hinder each other trying to draw them quickly. 4. Bronn is too close to make a swing or jab. 5. His dagger is already unsheathed. He could stab one of them i the face and shoulderbump the second one out of balance while he's drawing. 6. Nowhere in the book these two are mentioned as exceptional fighters. After Jaime and Selmy, most men in the kingsguard were there for political reasons.
john doe Well if you're taking quotes from the Hound in the latest episode....what about the sentence right after the one you quoted.. about anyone with any skill with a sword could kill "5 meryn fucking trants"
TheCaptainmarvell Also, Bronn is wearing chain mail. Which is the better, more flexible armor type when fighting blades. They could only pierce it, not slice it. And guess what's made for piercing and not slicing. A dagger or dirk. :)
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Careful Meryn, this one isn't carrying a wooden sword.
***** or did heeeeee
***** A general rule I've learned from watching movies/shows: If you don't actually see the character die, he isn't dead.
*****
You never know. You didn't see The Hound die, just he was wounded. But yeah this show is retardedly unpredictable
*****
stopped reading after you wrote "meryn trant is the best character on the show" stupidest opinion i've read
***** Then it's a damn good thing he's headed to Braavos. In Yunkai he'd be dead before he'd taken five steps inside the gate.
Vid should be re-titled to "Cercei saves two Kingsguard."
What saving did they need? These are Kingsguard. They are the elite of the elite, and could cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by two of them.
Arun R. Well in a 1v1 fight Bron killed one of the best knight in umm....that sky door castle place, and Meryn Trant got ganked by a little girl in a brothel. So do the math.
+Arun R. He'd probably manage one of them in time at the very least. Assuming he could aim it into say the neck opening in the armour or the face.
Arya surprised an unarmored pedophile and stabbed his eyes first. Trant killed Syrio, a water dancer who didn't pick up the fallen Lennisters' swords.
Bronn is a very smart fighter. He deliberately moved to a close distance and concealed a short dagger. If Cersei hadn't stepped between them, Bronn would have killed them before they could draw their swords.
If there's one thing we know about Bronn is he's actually a very rational person and approaches every situation carefully. So the fact that he even considered laying a hand on the hilt of that dagger shows us that he genuinely believed he could take them both.
Another thing we know is the fact that he knows _when_ to fight. He won every fight he got himself into and never got himself into a fight he couldn't win. E.g. when he declined to fight the mountain. Meaning there is a high chance that he would have killed those two with ease, as there was almost no reward, which means he considered them to be of even lower risk.
@@tubeyoukonto I mean the bodyguard of the hand of the king attacked by two kings guard trying to enter said Hand's residence killing them both with a dagger.... thats embarresing.
It'd get swept under the rug as two inept guardsmen picking a fight with a fellow man of title and loosing to a dagger.
Plus the fact of the matter would be a lot of them would be impressed and realize he's not someone to fuck with lightly.
Easily. Just by going for their longsword for a figth that close shosw that these guys are indeed more usebal for beating little girls than figthing men.
To be fair the kingsguard (in the show at least) never really actually do any Kingsguarding aside from the bran flashback with Arthur Dayne. Infact, looking at Barristan and Jamie, getting kicked out of the Kingsguard seems to just make you more badass
Exactly, if Bronn is willing to fight you then the chances are high that he can kick your ass six ways from Sunday.
Bronn goes exactly by Tyrion's words: "Never forget who you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like an armour, and it could be never used to hurt you." Bronn is so honest about his position that even after having a knighthood he didn't change a bit.
True but Bronn also has a huge confidence and being a cutthroat doesn't really bother him.
He's a lot more pragmatic about life than Jon or Tyrion.
i was just thinking about this when meryn tries to insult bronn.
Well, it did change one thing ... he got paid more.
@@hydewhyte4364 And more money is awesome because it leads to more cake. Well that's my
thinking anyway.
@@runtergerutscht4401 why fight when you don't have a cock?
bronn wouldn't enter into a fight he will lose.
if he believed he can take out 2 kingsguard with 1 dagger, then bronn is scary as fuck.
I could see how he would though. Stuff sword draw of the guard on the left (weak side of guard on right), slit his throat with quick dagger. Push mortally wounded guy into guy who likely has sword drawn thus not giving him space to use sword and allowing Bronn to close distance. Sink knife through slits in other guards helmet. As fast as Bronn is, i wouldn't put it past him. Being a cutthroat is "exactly what [he] is" afterall.
hed just cut both their thoats with 1 cut
Grey Worming it.
if i was the kingsguard i wouldnt draw my sword in such close quarters, id take a boxing stance guarding my throat.
Only drawing it once i get a good distance from punching bronn while he falls.
Arthur Teixeira my favorite quote from the hound lol
"Longsword is a bad option in close quarters" Oberyn Martell
"Aaaaaaaaargh*squelch*"
- Oberyn Martell
+Manne Johnsson Dont leave me in this world... NEVER hahahaahaha
These are Kingsguard. They are the elite of the elite, and could cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by two of them.
+Arun R. You are joking, Right?
Meryn Trant and that other guy, possibly Boros Blount, are hardly elite.
"You're an upjumped cut throat"
"That's exactly who I am"
Gotta love Bron. Never denies who he is or the immoralities of life. Arguably the most honest character in GoT.
Bronn and the Hound most honest characters.
Well, in s8 he is ready to betray Jamie and Tyrion
@@Hirnlego999 that’s the character of Bronn, he is a cutthroat sellsword who will look after his own interests more than anyone else’s, and he’s honest about that aspect of himself from the get go. It makes sense for him to leave Jaime and Tyrion seeing their opposing force (Danny). So you can say that Bronn is the person who’s most true to their character, and honest in that sense.
@@jayanthinarayn5961 Nope, don't agree. Obviously Cersei knows about their history and is one who shouldn't trust Bronn at all, it would be better to have him killed.
Certainly she knows that at least Tyrion is good with words.
And it doesn't even make sense how he can just march right up to Tyrion in the last season at all, is he that unguarded. Would he be allowed to hit him in the nose?
Nope, the only reason Bronn stuck around so much is because viewers liked him, but they didn't really know what to do with him.
Then obviously they make him master of coin, although he has no experience with this at all. Just lazy fan service.
I don't think there is anyone that the show did not ruin in the end.
his plan was a quick draw throw/thrust to fast to deflect with bulky armor on and a heavy longsword then move on to the next guy for one on one. he has no bulky armor restricting his movements he would have put the dagger in one of their throats and took the next on
The most tension in this scene was when his real life EX walked by quickly.
I feel like it's definitely why she looked at the ground because of that reason
I think this is only scene in the entirety of GOT in which Cersei and Bronn are in the same room.
@@CompletelyRandomAndUnknown i vaguely remember there was one in season 8, or are you not counting that season lol
@@blazethefox1621 nope not a real season in my book
Oh so he smashed it before Jaimee? Lol
"You're a grub, in fancy armour, who's better at beating little girls than fighting men.", CALLED IT.
白海塔 I was thinking the same when Trant got killed a couple weeks ago. But recall, he was beating Sansa in the throne room on Joffrey's command. That's why he used the line.
+THExJMC I've always wondered if he only referred to the Sansa-beating bit, or if maybe Bronn happened to see something in the brothel. In any case, it's a nice touch.
+Dongus the Hedgehog I think that was a poor idea by HBO. The books make no mention of Trant being a pedophile, or anything like that. It seems like to justify Arya's gruesome killing of Trant, they had to make him even more evil and unlikeable. I feel like they shoehorned the brothel scene.
+Salad Tongs I somewhat agree, but I even if it weren't for the brothel scene, he deserved to get killed by Arya like that.
Are bosdi chinese lewra. How you watch GOT huh? You’re watching it illegally with VPN. Someone report this twat to the CCP
I love the little details in this show that a lot of people miss. Bronn has a long sword on his hip but reaches for his knife then takes a step closer to them instead of try to gain distance. He would of slit both their throats before they could of even draw their swords. Goes to show how inexperienced those kings guards really are. Oberyn said and proved it himself. Long sword is a bad option in close quarters. Bronn and Oberyn, probably the smartest fighters in this show.
too bad Oberyn got his head popped
IamJigle Cockyness is a dangerous thing.
kira0080 and monologueing. never monologe during a fight to death!
***** Hes used to fighting weaklings or unarmed people. No where near as experienced as real fighters like bronn or the hound. That inexperience of fighting real fighters is why hes a shitty knight and a fuckboi lol.
kira0080 Jaime Lannister too. Remember in the first season where he pulled a dagger to off Jory?
Fun fact: this is the only scene between Bronn (Jerome Flynn) and Cersei (Lena Headey) in the entire series, at her request. The two were romantically involved before they suffered what both acknowledge was an awful breakup. The two were never on set at the same time and never shared table reads. Headey apparently hated Flynn so much so that despite this scene's direction for Cersei to walk between the kingsguards, Headey deliberating walks behind and around the taller of the two guards and makes no eye contact on her exit.
Heard this was disputed by Flynn. Apparently according to him by the shows filming they were at least civil and could share words.
@@XpLiZiTcOnTeNt7 I dunno, the entire reason he and Pod excuse themselves from the fancy folks at the Dragonpit was so he and Headey weren't on set together. When the scene starts, he says "I've been sent to welcome you to the meeting" then he and Pod exit just as Cersei is about to come on scene after Bronn drops them all off at the Dragonpit.
It's also why instead of Cersei summoning Bronn to kill her brothers, she sends Qyburn to give him a ton of money and the crossbow.
So, if they could be on set together, it's strange that they never are in S7 or S8 when they would have had the most reason to be in proximity to each other.
@@jasonjackson1708 just because they are capable of sharing words doesn’t mean that they want to. Shooting several takes of one scene is a much longer process than speaking to each other in passing.
So, she took some power of being a cold bitch in real life to the part.
During Tyrion's trial, Cersei offers gold to Bronn to not fight for Tyrion although that happens offscreen.
I like how Bronn doesn't even try to hide that he's readying to draw his dagger. He's so confident that he can dispatch these armored goons that he dares them to try and stop him.
They're in closed quarters, those big swords are at a distinct disadvantage.
@@QYXP True, not for some characters in the show, but definetly for these clowns.
@@QYXP ..Close quarters
“Longsword is a bad option in close quarters.”
- The Red Viper
One of them is Meryn Trant, who's established as not actually being much of a fighter (Sandor makes fun of Syrio for getting killed by him in one of his conversations with Arya), so really it's more of a one-on-one, and Bronn is definitely better than most knights, esp. with the edge of dagger vs. longsword in close quarters.
Turns out he's not that good at beating little girls either.
He's good at suicide attempts tho
+Alric Malicorne Fuck that whole plot.
+Alric Malicorne he was* :] glad he's dead
+Jorge Quiroz i know it was stupid, David: hey D.B do people still hate Trant? D.B: Yeah i think so, make him a child molester anyway? David: OH YEAH
I would tell exactly where that scene was going after the first "Too young...".
I like how Ser Meryn Trant's armor fits perfectly, and Ser Whosit of Whocares's armor is two sizes too small. :P
Lol good one
terry waller gosh nice question.
@@Dezmont01 No he says Teryyn Mant first as a dig at Trant, who it of who cares is the nameless kingsguard
@terry waller well to be fair she just walked past him with an air of deference...which is probably what she would have done in real anyway.🤷🏿♂️
Jack H S Bayliss He’s not nameless, that’s Boros Blount
"Long sword is a bad option in close quarters." -Oberyn Martell
“Don’t showboat til it’s over” - Me
"I like big butts and I cannot lie" - Sir Mix-A-Lot
What a shame he died.
@@mercrantos3455such a waste 😔 imagine the red viper leading his warriors into battle against the night king 😮💨🤌🏼
Under this circumstance, a simple "Actually the Queen is talking with him but we should be done in a minute" will go a long way.
And if Bronn had been noble-born, that's probably what they would've said. But he's not, so the silver-spoon arseholes think they can talk shite.
Freal, there's no way, say, Barristan Selmy would've been as openly antagonistic or incompetent during his time. It really just underscores how far the kingsguard had fallen: they immediately jump to their reputation to intimidate/deter people instead of diplomacy (which could've also been influenced by Cersei's general attitude as well.)
@@Bonovasitch Interesting observation. I suppose there was also huge distrust between the two parties. Bronn knows that an attempt of life was made on Tyrion by a kingsguard, and the kingsguard of course doesn’t trust a lowly mercenary
If Cersei had walked out 5 seconds later, there would've been 2 Kingsguard less.
RavielUriaHamon Two kingsguard FEWER. Unless you're talking about their quality :/
PSYche Nihil no actually, less is perfectly valid
2 fewer
Hawk Pants fewer is used when it’s countable, men, swords, houses etc less is for things you wouldn’t sand,salt,love,honour
@@connor4435 that was 4 years ago they are probably dead
The friendship between Bronn and Tyrion might be one of the greatest in tv history. No matter your opinion on either of their decisions, they both understood eachother and were realistic with eachother for the whole show.
The Klespyrian Chandler and Joey >>>>>>> Bronn and Tyrion.
The Klespyrian I'm looking for my own Bronn
***** aye, when I read that Bronn named his "son"(I parenthesis it cause its just a boy Lolly's kept... after she was raped...)Tyrion which made me shed a tear thinking Bronn still liked Tyrion... and made it so his name would live on... in a way.. if he died...
The Klespyrian It's pretty good, but Ramsay and Theon's friendship is better.
The Klespyrian Bronn and Tyrion was good, but I think Tyrion and Varys is unmatched. I feel like every time they're not screen together it's worthy of some award nomination.
duckpwnd Theon? Who is that? You mean REEK?
I love how Bronn isn't even scared. He was about to casually slit the throats of 2 kingsguard and he didn't give a fuck.
Yeah well they would have carved his ass up and served him with wine if Cersei didn't show up
@@NavyGunnersMateMan No they wouldn’t, Bronn would be way too quick and skilled for them. We’ve seen him kill two people at once with a dagger during the battle of Blackwater, he would’ve done it again.
@@NavyGunnersMateManIt must be pretty well-known how shitty of a fighter Meryn Trant is for someone in his position considering how Bronn and the Hound talk abour him. And "Who-is-it of Who-cares" has to be even worse.
Besides, it's a close quarters encounter, they are wearing heavy armor and they are carrying longswords. By the time they start drawing their weapons Bronn would have already cut their throats.
@@NavyGunnersMateMan lmao bruh this not wwe fake stuff. fighting that close combat and the kingsguard is reaching for sword while bronn is reaching for dagger?
bronn had seen many sieges, fought many battles and killed many more people than meryn trant.
meryn trant has been doing nothing but beating children lmao.
bronn would have killed one of them pretty quick and the other one would end up in swordfight. but then again, nowadays the kingsguard are garbage.
btw why do you even watch wwe? that stuff fake and for kids.
"That's exactly who i am."
I love this dude. No bullshit, just straight facts comin out of his mouth.
He was one of the most honest characters in the series. Never pretended that he was someone he wasn't and was always upfront with people about his agenda- fight, get rich, get drunk and get laid.
Imagine that he smashed Cersei so hard offscreen that this was her only scene with him... in the entire series. Ol' Bronn must have made her eyes roll hard🤣
It's not only frankness, it's also a not si subtle threat.
Something along the lines of "I AM a person who went around cutting throats, so maybe you should try to stand down instead of antagonizing me"
I have no doubt he would've immediately gone for his throat, fulfilling his threat
@@profchaos91 Yes, i've noticed.
@@Chokoboh the funniest part is that the kingsguards coincidentally lack armor in that precise area, probably because for security reasons their face must be visible to avoid impostors and help the king recognize them
"You're a grub, in fancy armour, who's better at beating little girls than fighting men."
Thats not even an insult, thats true XD
And Trant knows it.
+WillRock07 The best insults are true.
I think bronn knew what meryn was doing that's why he used that insult in particular
Well the truth can be insulting.
Ser Taryn Mant: "That exactly who I am!"
Bronn is so badass here. He knew they weren't going to let him in but he walks towards the door anyways to close the distance between them so that by the time they are able to unsheathe their swords his dagger would have slit both their throats. Also he still had his hand on his dagger until they were a good distance away. Really shows how good and experienced a fighter Bronn is
Maybe he's experienced, but it wouldn't be enough. Remember that these are Kingsguard. The ELITE of the ELITE. One Kingsguard can cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by 2 of them. The elite Ser Meryn and Ser Boros would have been prepared for his dagger behind his back and ran him through.
+Jetta I won't rest until everyone understands the TRUTH.
+Arun R. It's specifically stated that the current Kingsguard are the worst in history or something
Truth is the Kingsguard stopped being the "elite of the elite" once Robert took the crown. Currently, the only competent fighter on the kings guard is the Mountain and that is cuz he is unique in his own way
Eh, Maryn Trant couldn't beat a 5'5'' Braavosi with a wooden sword. What chance would he have against Bronn?
I always loved that Bronn carries a curved Nepalese Kukri on the small of his back. It's a fitting weapon for his character and looks exotic enough that you can imagine in world it came from some far away exotic place, he probably took it off someone he killed or won it gambling.
Or time travelled and took it from a Gurkha.
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You think a curved blade was from them? Stolen from Thracians and they stole it from someone else who stole it from someone else.
@@dustinlerch9272 but time travel...
@@dustinlerch9272 That particular blade seems to be a Nepalese Kukri. Which is definitely a blade associated with the Gurkha's not Thracians or anyone else
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The point went way over your head didn’t buddy
Man it’s rough to read through so loving and optimistic comments now days after the series is over. How in love we used to be with the show…… rest in pieces GOT
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He'd have fought the Mountain, too, if he felt the risk was worth the reward, but unlike Oberyn, Bronn was always realistic about the dangers. He knew one slip was all it would take, and even if he won, then what? Tyrion couldn't really offer him anything concrete, and he might actually lose on the deal overall even after winning the fight. He had a lordship and was already sitting pretty ... why f*** that up fighting an insanely dangerous opponent for someone who couldn't really even meaningfully pay him for it?
There are people who'd put everything on the line just for friendship, but did anyone ever really believe Bronn was one of those types? It's just like he said: he liked Tyrion well enough. He just liked himself a little bit better.
Which is why Tyrion likes and respects Bronn so much. Because they are exactly alike.
Eric Pomainville Mmmm ... I wouldn't call it a lock. I'd have bet on Bronn over Gregor ... but I'd also have been biting my nails to the quick the whole fight. It would only have taken one slip, a fact Bronn well realized and Oberyn learned the very hard way.
Eric Pomainville i dont think bronn wouldve beaten the Mountain , the mountain is pretty much a beast im not denying bronn is a really good swordsman but the mountain wasnt really easy to defeat , it was just that Oberynn his fighting style suited the fight better than Bronns , besides Oberynn is a most likeely the strongest warrior from Dorne
Eric Pomainville In the books it's not that easy...they fight for a long time untill Gregor gets tired.. the fight is also with shields... and they do not reflect on the show how thick are the armor and the shield (they are massive and almost impossible to penetrate), or even how dangerous Gregor is, he spent the entire war butchering people in and off the battlefield, he's also really quick for a person of his size and with that armor... and being able to weild a great sword with one hand only... that's dangerous
In the book, it is showned that Bronn did play his little trick here and there in kingslanding to honor Tyrion even after Tyrion got exiled lol.
"...who's better at beating little girls than fighting men"
S5E10, good call Bronn.
Not really no....
It's just D&D failing to understand the books and being pretty shitty writers (aside from the fact that Jaime actually describes Trant as an adequate (Kingsguard) fighter.
Hmm from the books I got the impression they were average knights in ability that Balon Swan was the only one who was worth a damn. And it was Mandon Moore who Jamie said was the most dangerous after himself.
@@zacharyradford5552 I think he says Mandon is the most dangerous because you never know what he's thinking, his face doesn't give away any emotion. It's why he's so powerful as Cersei's catpaw. IIRC Meryn Trant is a decent fighter, however he's sly and cruel (as described by Jaime), while Boros Blount is old, fat, craven and a weak fighter.
@@S-Asker Yes, actually. Trant being an adequate fighter is not saying much. Yoren and Beric Dondarrion are "adequate fighters". I highly doubt they meant to imply Trant was an absolute useless knight, but he is just "adequate" and has the advantage of armor and a big sword, not above average skill. As someone else said he is also cruel and loyal, which is more so why he is kingsguard than his abilities.
He was more likely referencing Trant beating up Sansa after tearing up her dress in front of the entire court.
Which was way earlier, in like season 2 or 3
I love Bronns clarity and acceptance of reality. "your an up jump cut throat, nothing more" "that's exactly who I am"
You're not your dumbass. "your" grammar sucks ass btw
Man, they didn't even know they were about to get smoked. Ser Bronn was just waiting to get close enough to slit their throats right as they drew their swords, what a legend.
I think this is the only scene in the show that Jerome Flynn and Lena Headey have had together.
Cuz they used to date and hate each other lol.
because he "accidentally" put it in her pooper and now she hates him forever
It was probably a stand-in since you don't get a good look at his face
@@roodledoot lena headey move sideways rather than the middle of them proves that guy was jerome.
Pretty sure that was someone else standing in for Bronn who wasn't Jerome. Both him and Lena signed contracts that stated they refuse to do any scenes together.
"Ser Whosit of Who Cares" XDDD fucking love this show
Ser Boros Blount. Maybe Bronn should offer up a little more respect. Two elite Kingsguard were ready to defeat him quite easily until Cersei interrupted. Lucky Bronn.
No, the guard were lucky Cersei came in time to save both of their lives
Stannis Baratheon Cool troll
+Stannis Baratheon Agreed. The elite Ser Boros would have likely broken Bronn's hand immediately and disarmed him while Ser Meryn ran him through. Good thing Cersei saved him from a humiliating death!
Arun R. Ser Meryn Cunt got powned by a little girl. I doubt he would have offered much of a fight to Bronn. Besides, Bronn was going for a knife, they were drawing swords. Didn't anybody learn anything from the viper about close quarters?
The beauty of this scene is how Bronn leans in and gets close for a dagger fight. Those guards with they long swords all that armor won't stand a chance. Two jabs and they are out. Bronn is a no-nonesense fighter and I absolutely love it
The fact Bron felt confident he could kill then is just badass
He could though
Cersei save two lifes that day..
WRONG, she saved Bronn's life. These are Kingsguard. The ELITE of the ELITE. One Kingsguard can cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by 2 of them. The elite Ser Meryn and Ser Boros would have been prepared for his dagger behind his back and ran him through.
+Alexander Afonso Martin I will not rest until everyone knows the TRUTH.
+NotTooBright 7 " fuck the king"
- the hound
+Arun R. WRONG Bronn would have DESTROYED THEM. Varys Jaime and even the Hound knew that Meryn trant sucks shit. Varys says that Jaime and Barristan were the only true fighters on the kingsguard. Jaime says Meryn is a shitty fighter and the hound said "any stable boy with a sword could beat 3 marth trants"
The elite Ser Meryn "Any Boy-Whore With a Sword Could Kill Three" Trant?
People say Bronn doesn't have any honor. But he does, in his own Bronnish way: he'd rather fight two Kingsguard than yield. The man's got pride in his skill as a fighter. It's all Bronn really has in the world.
I like what he does in the book; outwits Cersei's plan to kill him in a rigged trial by combat plot by killing the lord in charge of the plot then marrying the sister of his wife, inheriting the castle and lands after the wife ends up in Qyburn's lab.
The funniest bit is that it is all off the page and we only get Cersei's reaction
@@SantomPh and to twist the knife, named his child Tyrion.
@@vasudeanguy8523 I mean, they genuinely liked one another.
He does have honour. Even in the trial of combat. He was clearly beating the knight, and looked at Lysa as though to say, “He’s had enough.” But she kept the fight going until Bronn killed him and pushed him out the moon door. Same when he said he wouldn’t kill an infant if ordered to without question. He’d ask how much.
Bron would happily run away from a figth he can't win. He said so himself. He just knew that these two "Kingsguard" were useless idiots that got their position because of loyalty to Cersei not because of their figthing capabilities. Going for a longsword when your opponent is rigth in your face is beyond stupid. A punch to the face would be more effective.
To the people saying they hated each other:
"Flynn was in a relationship with Game of Thrones co-star Lena Headey; rumors spread about the relationship ending on bad terms some time before March 2014, resulting in the couple being kept apart on-set. However, Flynn rebuffed the claims, stating he and Headey had worked in a scene together, adding "And the last time I saw Lena we were speaking, so I wouldn’t believe everything you read, and like I said, [the media] can get pretty desperate for stories." He continued by calling Headey "…a wonderful person and a wonderful actress.""
It's probably not true.
As famous actors/actress, outright say bad things about someone else on camera or in interview are probably amongst the fastest way to ruin both person career.
Why would you negate the premise of this beautiful scene with stories about whoever those two people are?
I've read both version of this story now. But obviously only one of them is clickbait-marketable, so I'm inclined to believe this more boring and tame take.
Bronn is actually a lot more honorable than people let on. He chastised Trant here for beating Sansa because he’s a full grown man while she’s a defenseless teenager, showing he actually does have morals unlike most other knights. Even if he does do what he does for money, he’ll always stick to the job as long as he was paid what he’s owed and wouldn’t do anything as dishonorable as beating children unless it was really made worth his while.
He told tyrion the only question he would ask if ordered to kill an infant was "how much will you pay me?"
@@alexd9550 Bronn would only kill for money, not for pleasure.
@@MoskHotel but he'd still do it, I'd hardly say he's honorable.
What’s even ironic is that the banished knights like Jorah and Belmy had more honourable than Trant.
@@MoskHotel selmy wasn't banished, he just decided to leave westeros because he was pissed that the queen disregarded his skill as the second best swordsman in history in his prime.
Hands down one of my favorite characters in the entire show.
Meryn Trant's your favorite character?
VaporyDuck I'm pretty sure not even the actor who played Meryn Trant would say that Meryn Trant is his favorite character :x
After seeing how quick Bronn used that knife in Dorne this week I have no doubt he was killing both of these guys easy lol
***** Sure...
Now the dancing master is in Braavos...
***** The Hound always said the funniest shit
***** The dancing master was just that. A dancing master. Bronn is a battle hardened killer.
One o one, Bronn can get Trant on to his knees and give the slut a nice spanking before gutting him.
***** "Bronn is a sell sword, not a knight."
My point precisely. Knights fight pretty. The best among them are the Killers. Sellswords have no choice but to be killers. And Bronn was at the top of his profession.
"who proved himself as a capable fighter against syrio forel "
Being better than a few common foot-soldiers and a fool armed with a wooden stick while you are armed and armoured in cold steel (the best kind by the way ie castle forged) is no vindication of your capabilities as a fighter.
As for Syrio being first sword of Braavos ... Me bringing 50% grade and being the valedictorian just because the rest of the class brought below 30% is no vindication of my scholarly prowess. Now this may not be true of the Braavosi but it also may. As far as Braavos is concerned, it is primarily a city of traders, banking guilds and merchant princes who primarily purchase all their muscle from the sellsword companies and unsullied.
"one of the seven royal kings guard"
Thats no guarantee either. In the words of Jaime Lannister "he had opened the door and then had allowed the vermin to creep in". Else how does a Craven like Boros Blount get into the Kingsguard?
***** I refuse to believe that you lack even the bare minimum logical capacity, so I must conclude that now you're just trolling. For the last time I will say this:
"Trant was in the top 0.01% or something"
The king of Westeros and indeed the hand of the king are supposed to be ... what 0.00001% of the nobility. Then how is it that so many inept kings and hands have occupied those positions. You didn't answer my question as to how a craven like Boros Blount got in if the selection process hadn't succumbed to corrupt practices (eg cronyism, nepotism)?
As for Jaime Lannister talking shit, for all his crimes, he was deemed worthy of knighthood at age 15 and even after months of being chained, underfed and being unwashed (infections) and having his hand bound in chains, he fought a humongous cow, that too a well trained one like Brienne of Tarth to a bloody draw (at least in the books). That too Brienne was in armour and he was in rags. I'd like to see you even run for half a mile after that, leave alone fight someone. So if Jaime Lannister speaks in his own mind (POV character) that Meryn Trant is shit, I think its safe to say he isn't talking shit.
Besides that, if the Hound himself, the man who could take a sword to even the mountain and hold his own, says that Teryn Mant is a Joke, then there is good reason to assume he is.
"You don't make kings guard without some serious talent."
Same old lack of logic. Wont repeat myself. Maybe Trant is a good enough fighter, but thats about it.
"He was trusted enough as a protector to accompany MACE TYRELL"
Mace Tyrell is one of the characters people in Westeros give the least fucks about. Proves nothing.
"He's jealous of Trant for becoming the head of the kings guard"
Ehm. Jaime is Lord Commander.
"Sell swords are foot soldiers"
Last I checked, Trant spent the majority of his day on foot and that in a duel, Knights had to dismount and fight like anyone else.
SellswordS. Plural. We are talking about one single sell-sword here. One who has faced knights on multiple occasions and has never failed to kill them.
No point in arguing. Bronn whips Ser Meryn Cunt like a dog.
The moment he was within distance to reach out and touch them, they were already at a disadvantage against his dagger. Both were standing too close together and wearing swords facing each other, and so not only would Bronn be able to stop them from drawing swords by simply moving 1 step closer, they also wouldn't be able to draw blades unless they moved further apart. Meaning that Bronn could probably grab the guy on his left with his free hand and pull him close, stab the guy on the right in the neck, and then proceed to stab the guy on the left as he tried to wrestle free. Even from a non-medieval standpoint, that's just shoddy security.
I worked with a guy who did professional security and one of the first things he explained was "You never stand shoulder to shoulder with another guard, and you always position yourselves spaced out enough that at least one of you has time to circle the guy trying to start the fight. Cause the moment you both stand next to each other his odds of even hitting 1 of you by accident increases. Plus he doesn't have to worry about hitting his own friend or getting in someone else's way."
Which hand is free? They both had daggers in them, lol
Watch it again, the two kingsguard are drawing swords. Not the "short" one.
@@royce9018Wrong, he grabbed the scabbard or holster with his left hand for stability and possibly confusion for which hand was drawing a knife... he would've at least sliced ones throat and possible stabbed or sliced the second before they could fully draw in such a tight area.
If the show established anything, it's that Meryn Trant was weak as fuck! No surprise that he'd be to dense to realize how fucked he was going to be against Bronn in that situation.
That Bronn reaches for his dagger shows perfectly how he’s actually a killer, whilst the other two are only able to look intimidating. He could slit both their throats in the time it takes to unsheathe their swords and swing the blade. This shows the difference between Tyrion’s logical practicality in hiring a cutthroat as a bodyguard, and Cercei’s ignorant favour towards grandeur, fostered through her sheltered upbringing
Actually those two would fuck Bronn up
It's not a dagger but a short chopping blade. Not only good for slicing throats, but lopping off fingers and hands with a good swing. As well as a curve that would help angle his cuts into the weak parts of metal armor. I'm not an expert at fighting, but I see alot of gaps in that king's guard armor.
@@zombiehunter501 Looks like a Kukuri style, which would be real good. In Dungeons and Dragons Terms, Bronn is a Fighter who dipped a bit into Rogue for some Sneak Attack.
"You're no knight" - Meryn Trant, the guy that beats little girls to please his king (and just for fun), murders a sword trainer who is unarmed, and countless other horrible deeds I'm too lazy to type out or remember.
and he needed a lot of help for the Dance master... xD
+Mockingjay_23 Not to mention that all the knights and royal families literally were just cutthroats or sellswords who killed their competitors.
@@TheStarkiller96 To be fair he didnt need help. He stood and watched as the no name knights or w.e. got clapped and then he fought the Dace master who wasnt even out of breath. Grant it he also was armed with only a wooden sword
yeah well im so lazy im not evrn g=onna bother fisning t rjijj
Sir Trant is _exactly_ a knight, for a given level in the feudal pecking order.
Did he say "Ser TARYN MANT"????
hahhahahhahhahah
***** bron for all the emmys! >.
I wonder if that was improvised, cause it sure looked like it was.
Hell yeah. Love Bronn. What a savage.
Ser Who's It of Who Cares
sanjit kolaprath ll
This man exactly laid out how to beat, or be killed by, the Mountain. He knew his limits and yet he still went up to two guys on full armor. He thought he could win.
Bronn, in little more than a scale shirt, just calmly stepping within three feet of two full-plated men without having even yet drawn his blade.
Cersei's timing saved their lives more than they would ever know or appreciate. He was about to tear them apart.
The fact that Bronn is so eager to get into a fight with them shows how easily he could have won
Trant: "You're an jumped-up cut throat and nothing more"
Bronn: "That is exactly what I am."
This is why I love Bronn. He's the only character who's absolutely honest about who he is and what he does. He doesn't hide behind titles or codes, he doesn't make excuses, he's just who he is. In a place like Westeros, honesty like his is hard to come by, and that makes it valuable.
+Joey Fredrickson Agreed...Another example would be, when Tyrion asked would you have killed an infant without any question ?, he said, I'll ask how much! He is brutally HONEST !
He'd be dead long ago if he wasn't so damn good at combat. He reminds me of a jaded, middle aged Madmartigan.
+Joey Fredrickson Just like the Hound.
Sandor Clegane was that way too just in a more brooding way
These are Kingsguard. They are the elite of the elite, and could cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by two of them.
What I liked about this scene more than Bronn showing his has better weapon/situation choice than the Kingsguard is that he also kept a hold onto his weapon longer and didnt fully sheath it till he saw/felt the threat or opportunity leave
The twinges in bronn’s face as he faces these two stopping him.. the possibility occurs to him that he could be killed in this engagement, but he enjoys the thrill so he almost goes ahead anyway yet that little hesitation. Summoning all concentration and momentum for the next move.. great acting detail
I promise you the thought of being killed by either of these two didn’t cross bronn’s mind for a second. He doesn’t take fights he isn’t certain he will win. In close quarters like that they’d be dead before they could get their swords out
@@joshharrison619 disagree.
@@joshharrison619 It very likely crossed his mind in that he would shit on himself for losing his life in such an easy fight. I suspect Meryn Trant did a little research on Bronn since their later confrontation was also very telling. "Nobody threatens the king in the presence of the king's guard" "I am merely educating my nephew. Bronn, the next time Ser Meryn speaks...kill him. THAT was a threat! See the difference?" Ser Meryn looks wide-eyed at Bronn and Tyrion showing acknowledgement yet not uttering a sound...
This scene right here shows how good pre-season 5 used to be. They took a simple scene; Bronn going to meet Tyrion, and made it amazing.
Right? A simple scene where nothing happens. And, it was good, honest, true to character, simple
Bronn was about to dismantle those two idiots. Because longsword is a bad option in close-quarters...
First: That's not exactly close quarters. Second: He was about to start a knife fight against two Knights in full plate, armed with swords while he himself only had padded armour. If this wouldn't be a fantasy scenario he would have been the one who would have got absolutely dismantled.
Indeed they were heavwily armoured. And his dagger is slashing type of dagger. Effectively useless against plat armour. Sure the KG armour is not very optimised (plenty of weakspots not covered by plate) but there was also TWO of them...
yea i guess that little piece of cloth would really protect their throats against someone as fast as Bronn
Viggo Stark
Because in reality you just simply slash a dagger across someone's throat in the blink of an eye and expect him to actually die from that?
He might perhaps take one of them down in a surprise attack by aiming at a weakspot. He might also fail miserably doing so. And when the second guy comes into play he has all the advantages on his side.
CoIdHeat I think you are seriously underestimating Bronn, one of the most dangerous and unpredictable fighters around, against 2 'Knights' that were picked to be Kingsguard for political reasons
The actor who plays Ser Meryn has such an incredible voice.
Will never get tired of watching this scene. They didn't have a chance against that upjumped cut-throat.
everyone is quoting Oberyn about the longsword not being a good choice in close quarters. Maybe they were going to throw their pommels at Bronn
END HIM RIGHTLY!
Indeed
I see you are a man of taste, sir.
Theres way too much culture here for me to handle
They could half sword or use any of the techniques you never see in film ruclips.net/video/c0n2JaRXIF0/видео.html issue is at least one would be dead before the fight started because swords are not at the ready.
Cersei just saved those two.
+Nick Forbes Ha for once she did something useful
These are Kingsguard. They are the elite of the elite, and could cut down a whole group of soldiers from any of the principle houses. Bronn would be hopelessly outmatched by two of them.
Arun R. Besides Jaimie and Barristan (before he was dismissed) the Kingsguard during the Baratheon dynasty were the worst of the worst.
Bronn himself is one of the best fighters in the series, and extremely quick. While the kingsguard are usually good swordsmen, that isn't always the case. Cersei neutered the Kingsguard by filling it with toadies that she could control, but who didn't really belong there. Trent, for example, is an extremely poor swordsman (according to the Hound), and holds his position due to political favor rather than skill. Bronn would kill him easily. Especially given they get that close to Bronn with their swords still sheathed.
Frankly, at that close range, Bronn would probably deliver a fatal blow to both of them before they finished drawing. You can be the best swordsman in the world, but it won't help you if you're dead before you've got your sword in hand.
Bronn isn't one of the best but probably THE best.
If Cersei was 1 minute late, Arya would have scratched off a name off her list 4 seasons earlier.
In that event she might have followed through on her first contract for the Faceless Assassin.
"Long sword is a bad option at close quarters" said by Prince Oberyn.
Those two Kingsguards were saved by Cercei.
Long swords are a bad option in close quarters - Oberyn the Badass
rip
Lullabye Oberyn may be Rip, but Gregor will soon be RIA. Rest in Agony. Excruciating, unbearable, screaming agony.
Darklarik Apparently he actually survives. SPOILER
Billy Vallon That is not confirmed, we're still not sure if Robert Strong is indeed the mountain...but the context leads to that conclusion.
Assburgers he is but he is resurrected from the death
I'd like to have seen a fight between Bronn and Karl fookin Tanner : Legend of Gin Alley.
He was strong but bronn would kick his ass
+muzi rahman He wasn't just strong, he was A FOOKIN LEGEND.
+Elthenar Bronn kicked my ass when I was nine...fookin' ballsack, I owe him one
+Elthenar
I'd bet everything on the true foooking King of Westeros: The Legend of Gin Alley
Karl fookin tanner reminds me of devvo ya fookin gay bellend!
As Oberyn Martell once said: 'Longsword is a bad option in close quarters.' Bronn has a longsword on his hip, but he doesn't reach for that. He goes for the dagger on his back. The Kingsguard both go for their longswords and although we don't see the fight take place, we know how easily Oberyn handled the Kingsguard in the brothel when he reached for a longsword and Oberyn managed to stab him in the wrist before the sword had even cleared its scabbard. He knows how to use which weapon at which time. And so does Bronn. Bronn has seen and been in enough fights to know when to pick them and which weapons are more effective in the given situation.
If Cersei had left that room 1 min later, she would have found 2 dead Kingsguard in the hallway and Bronn covered in their blood. How he would've explained that situation, I don't know, but Meryn Trant and Ser Whatsit of Whocares would have been too dead to give a witness statement, lol.
those were not Kingsguard, they were ordinary Lannister soldiers
@@SantomPh Yeah, Oberyn would not have been able to get away with randomly maiming a Kingsguard member.
I love how Cersei doesn’t acknowledge or even see who’s outside.
Bronn is probably one of my favourite characters simply because he has no shame.
"That's exactly who I am."
Damn he's so cool.
Bronn has already given proof of how quick and fast at striking he is, therefore I guess he would have been able to take down one of the Kingsguards before the guard could fully drawn that long and heavy sword. Then, in a 1 vs 1 fight ... well, Ser Vardis fought Bronn with armour and honour, and we all know how that duel ended! xx
These new Kingsguards have no more honor
Ser Meryn literally has the swordsmanship of Jaime without his hand and assuming the other kingsguard is Boros Blount he's basically a useless cunt that has the honour of Joffrey's food taster (that worked well).
The sole time in the series that Lena and Jerome were on screen together.
Read they had been in a relationship before the show. It ended badly. So bad, that it was agreed they would never have a scene together alone anytime on the show. Nor would they ever speak to each other.
@@jackleg2007 one comment said that Jerome ‘accidentally put it in her pooper’ and that’s why they hate each other.
One the one hand it was probably said ironically, but I mean that’s so insanely far fetched, I don’t know if anybody could think of it as a joke.
I love Bronn. He knows when he can and can't win a fight. The fact he's got his hand ready shows you be could 100% take those two down with ease.
Bronn was so right about the beating little girls part lol
TheMasterpiecePD Not only was he better at beating little girls, he actually got off on it.
No he wasn't
@@nabhay583 yes he did
Such Bronn. So dagger. Much love.
Bronn was my fav character. I love his story arc and im glad he made it lol
Nah I don't like it that he does not joined the army against the death. He just only cares about himself and the money. For me the last seasons ruined bronn.
You can tell how Bronn is more skilled than the kingsguard from the fact that while they started drowing their swords, he proceeds drowing his kukuri instead, as prince Oberin said 'long swords are a bad option in close quarters', it takes more time to draw and they're harder to use at that distance.
If it would have came to the fight, Bronn would have slayed the two of them while they were still drawing.
Love this show and this kind of details
Look to your sins book readers. For the comment section is dark, and full of spoilers
The fact that they managed to get Bronn and Cersei's actors in the same scene is worrying 😂
It means the director of photography was more skillful than he was given credit for :-) . One or the other was CGIed in to the other’s scene.
That look at the end Tyrion gives to Bron, like , “ you seriously would have fought these two kings guard just to see me 🤨”
"Thats exactly who I am" LOL awesome
Trant and whosit would have been smoked. You see Bronn step in at the last moment while unsheathing his knife. He was gonna get so close that the knights couldn't fully draw their swords. Bronn won before Cersei even opened the door.
Nope, look at the positioning again. The whosit guard on the right can block the incoming slash attack, while simultaneously drawing his sword. And at the same time, Trant delivers a nose-hit with his sword's pommel, again while drawing it. Bad news bears for Bronn all around. On top of the fact that those guys had some neck protection from slicing: that leather/metal bit dangling from their helmets. Meaning, Bronn would have had to stab, not slice. And while he stabs one, ther other stabs him in return.
All in all, Bronn maybe would have won, but probably would have lost.
@@VG-fk6nk 2 on 1 they may not need their weapons to knock him down for sure, or to just simply grab his knife arm (they may get somewhat injured in the process) then it'd be pretty much over.
@@Excalibursin Yep. And I mean they're fully armored. Metal plate. It's quite an uphill potential battle for Bronn.
And in general, 2v1 means that you have to have an enormous advantage to win. Otherwise you're boned.
@@VG-fk6nk They are fully armored in fairly shit armor. There's metal but no real protection/gambeson under the armor to protect all the joints and other open spots. The helmets look like they are designed to direct weapon strikes into the head. The open bottom of the helm looks like it's designed to funnel any edge blade into the bottom/side of the head. The "knights" would be drawing their longswords from the same spot allow easy blockage of the draw as Bronn had moved himself up close. Multiple ways to stop the draw and kill the guy on the right in a couple seconds with a flick of the knife into the helm/neck area while maintaining control on the left. Even if the first stab on the right isn't fatal the next stab on the left side should be fatal. Getting stabbed in the face/neck/head is painful and bloody so the guy on the right would be dazed for a good bit allowing time for the finishing. The knights were not in a stance to deal with a physical impact as they were standing improperly while Bronn was already leaning in. That could just be the crappy way they portrayed fighting in the show though. The actors being bad at sword fighting is pretty par for the course in that tv show. One thing that is clear though is that Bronn is NOT the type to get into a fight unless he knows he will win. Consistently the character has shown that he is careful about picking his battles. Even though he thought he would likely take the mountain he declined because the odds and payment weren't good enough.
THe fighting and 'strategies' really bothered in this show well before the writing itself.
@@ToolofSociety Maaaaaaybe Bronn wins, if we give him all the advantages you speak of. But probably, and realistically, he loses.
All in all, he was lucky the fight didn't start. They would've killed his ass in 2 seconds flat.
Remember what Oberyn says about daggers in close quarters!
Prince Oberyn. The only man that could have someone on the ground with a spear impaled in their gut and STILL get his smashed in.
Billy Vallon too soon
lol true
Still too soon!
I like that everyone quotes Oberyn Martell saying longswords are bad in close quarters but Oberyn uses a *spear*
Seeing all the comments from 5 or 6 years ago and how they all so lovingly admire the show just breaks my heart.
Ser Teryn Mant.
And uh... Ser Whos'it of Who Cares.
I like how Cersei doesn't even look at them or question whats going on..
Love how brun goes for the short blade where it will give him a quicker advantage than trying to pull out a sword.
Khukri knives. Good enough for Bronn, good enough for me.
And he could have, too.
Love how he holds his dagger just waiting. Bronn you so badass
*Bronn was one of my most favourite character in GOT. He was very tough, funny & lovely character at the same time.*
I love how his robot head turns at the start. His actor is so good.
I love how Lena Headey didnt even look at Jerome Flynn, in mind that their past still affects their work. It might be the only scene where these two characters were present that close to each other.
She misses that dick.
Trant's actor has an amazing voice.
Gotta love the grin he gives, acting like he was just trying to get past, knowing they don't realise he just got close enough to take them both out lol
I noticed Bronn was getting closer and closer to them throughout the scene and is standing only like half a meter away when he's getting reading to draw his dagger. That's because he knows the closer he is to them the more advantageous his position is with a shorter weapon against two undrawn longswords. I don't know if they did this on purpose but it's a very clever detail. No wonder he won so many fights through sheer tactics, he really know his craft.
when you look at the stuff he does, in a way, bronn deserves knighthood more than most knights
Also:
_door opens_
_everyone freezes_
_Cersei leaves_
_weapons go back into sheaths_
Classic.
I think it's safe to say, Bronn is a calculated individual. He would not enter into a situation unless fully confident he will walk away.
"long sword is a bad option in close quarters" - Oberyn Martell
the targaryens had way better kingsguards, what do you think?
True.
Oswell whent, gerold hightower, Arthur dayne, barristan selmy, Jaime lannister, lewyn martell,jonathor darry. some of the greatest warriors to ever fight in westeros. vs captain pedophile, "fuck the king" clegane, ser whosit of whocares,etc. not much of a contest, is it?
+Keelan Murphy and sir "killed by a boy while failing at killing a dwarf"
JP_L who do you mean?
+ostschnaller the kingsguard killed by pod when he was about to kill tyrion
Bronn stood a good chance of killing them. The truth is the kingsguard has become a joke. A parody of itself ever since most of Aerys kingsguard died. The Kingsguard now are slightly skilled cutthroats who believe having a white cloak makes them untouchable.
I loved Bronns character here!! He showed who he was, and gave ZERO F'S... AWESOME 👍
Bronn: armor sells REAL nice
Ah, too bad. I was hoping to see Bronn kick the sh** out of those two.
That would be completely unlikely, as much of a bad motherfucker Bronn may be.
***** As stupid as they might be, the members of the kingsguard are still some of the best swordsmen in the kingdoms. Bronn's cheap tricks works well against average soldiers and knights who do not know him but he wouldnt stand a chance against competent soldiers.
KlioSeth he was confident enough to take them
he coulda beaten these two guys
Victor Zambrano If confidence was all it took to vanquish powerful and outnumbering foes, Robb Stark would be king of all Westeros and even Essos by now.
But hey, it's all a matter of opinion and discussion and who you're rooting for :)
I so happen to be of the opinion that Bronn wouldnt. But who's to say for sure... after all, like I said, he's more than your average un-armoured street cutthroat with a knife
ghoawaynetcabo but robb stark doesnt fight like bronn, no? looking at this scene, he was already close enough for him ti kill them and they wouldnt have enough time to draw their swords
i doubt u fought to studied sword fighting b4
Bronn's the shit
Even if he was drunk, blindfolded and beaten up prior to a fight he'd still carve those two shit stains up in half a minute.
Finbar Brolly
even if he was drunk? ever heard about drunk boxing? That's drunk slicing.
Bronn and his weapon he carries on the back 🤣🤣 I always like the way he withdraws it...
“Long sword is a bad option in close quarters.”
-Oberyn Martell
Just think about it had cersei left that room just a few seconds latter and those two bloody Kingsguards would have died.
john doe Their hands were on their swords- no hand free to break his arm. And dagger vs drawing a sword at close quarters - Dagger wins. Then there's Bronns comment about "better at fighting little girls", they're knights but haven't seen (as) many real fights like Bronn has. Lets not forget Bronn has already shown he can kill a guy wearing FULL Armour AND a shield with neither on his persons. & Ser Barristan Selmy could cut down 10 kingsguard... i think you're overrating them, slightly.
john doe Mhe Jamie is captain of the Kingsguard and any farmers son with a pitch fork could take him down as he is now. And Meryn was seen struggling with Syrio forello who was armed with nothing but a toy sword. I'm not familiar with the accomplishments of Ser Boros, but Bronn seemed to have little difficulty with the Champion of the vale, and in the books he seriously considered fighting the Mountain, the ff-ing mountain. If he has a chance against the Mountain (and Bronn wouldn't consider fighting if he had no chance ) than two measly Kings guards who most likely were appointed by favor, not merit are no problem. Besides Ser Barriston claimed he "could cut the 5 of them like carving a cake". While Barriston is certainly a badass, if he could easily defeat the 5 of them, Bronn should be able to take 2 of them.
john doe 1. Syrio was unarmed, Bronn is not. 2. Trant's face is exposed. 3. Their swords are hung in a position (on the inside) where they would actually hinder each other trying to draw them quickly. 4. Bronn is too close to make a swing or jab. 5. His dagger is already unsheathed. He could stab one of them i the face and shoulderbump the second one out of balance while he's drawing. 6. Nowhere in the book these two are mentioned as exceptional fighters. After Jaime and Selmy, most men in the kingsguard were there for political reasons.
john doe Well if you're taking quotes from the Hound in the latest episode....what about the sentence right after the one you quoted.. about anyone with any skill with a sword could kill "5 meryn fucking trants"
TheCaptainmarvell Also, Bronn is wearing chain mail. Which is the better, more flexible armor type when fighting blades. They could only pierce it, not slice it. And guess what's made for piercing and not slicing. A dagger or dirk. :)