Lena's evidence is remarkable to say the least. It's hard to argue the great possibility she is right after watching her presentation. Did the New Testament Gospels shift the times of certain characters and events? If so, then why? This is not a minor concern if they had. In fact, there are a number of late ideas that need to be reconsidered if this is true.
The reason for the shift is Roman politics and propaganda. The real King Jesus led the Jewish Revolt, which was put down by Vespasian. When he became emperor, Vespasian did not want the history of this King Jesus being linked to the Revolt (he did not want copycat revolts). Likewise, the later Christian scholars did not was their new pacifist (King) Jesus being linked to the Revolt, let alone be the leader of the Revolt. (Even though Jesus was jailed alongside those who had committed murder in the Revolt - Math 15:7) And so in an unlikely alliance between Rome and Christianity, the date of Jesus mission (Revolt) was moved back by 40 years.
All ancient cultures influenced the abrahamic faiths Christianity Islam and Judaism nothing original about these religionsI firmly believe in God but he was connected with ancient civilizations long before these three religions ever came to be thank you have a good day
@@RalphEllis Who was this leader Jesus? Izas? Alliance? As I see it the authors of the Gospels and the authors of Josephus are the creators of christianity whatever existed before was chrestianity a form of Serapis worship. These authors co-opted the prophesied Messiah the The Righteous Leader of the Essene and the Serapis Cult and the God of Judaism and the Julius Caesar Emperial worship cult creating their own Christ Cult.
"All who came before me were thieves and robbers." has a new meaning to me now! Robbers were rebels, just like Messiah! He was venerating, not criticizing them?!?
The Egyptian escaping on the Mount of Olives may be referenced by the young man wearing nothing but a linen cloth. Mark 14:51 "They seized him, 52 but he left the cloth behind and ran off naked."
The parallel Atwill finds to this in the sequence of parallels with Josephus is where Titus escape s from a band of armed men in the same garden. Titus was "naked" because he was mentioned to be wearing no armor.
@@cameradanblack The parallel is with Josef fleeing potifar's wife. actually it is a star-myth; astrotheology, reason why it is told over and over again. So is Germanicus (Paul) to compare with the zoodiac-sign of Ophichius the snake-bearer and sea-fahrer. Germamicus sons were exiled to die to Pandateria (bandit-island). Paul travels in a storm to this same island were he shakes off 2 snakes in a fire after been bitten. the symbolism (by author Luke) is clear.
What's interesting is that Irenaeus stated in his _Against Heresies_ that Jesus lived to be almost 50 and was crucified by Pontius Pilate under the Emperor Claudius! That would be between 41 and 54 CE. So we may have outside Christian evidence of this time shift.
The gospel authors undeniably played fast and loose with their source material. The Jewish Antiquities was definitely used by Luke, and Luke even made mistakes only attributable to his reading Josephus incorrectly.
Does the 'Saul / Paul' writer and his astral Jesus stories stand outside this time shift? If the 'Saul / Paul character is based on Simon Magus, does he fit into your understanding? If so, do the time-shifted stories establish an earthly version of the astral Jesus character in the Simon Magus stories?
Wait a second: wasn't Pilate a big crucifier? Wait a second you were shifting the time forward but when you get to Jesus being around the age of John the Baptist, the time line is pushed backward. Thumb up on the video. Thank you for posting.
Dave and Glen. .... I have likewise proved that the gospel timeline is later, in my books “King Jesus” and “Jesus King of Edessa”. I initially did this back in 1997, by proving that Saul was Josephus, and therefore the events of the Gospels were actually the events surrounding the Jewish Revolt. Since that time, a whole torrent of data from the Talmud, Gospels and Josephus Flavius, has proven this to be true. In short, King Jesus Em Manuel, was King Izas Manu VI of Edessa, a real king who led the Jewish Revolt, but lost to Vespasian and was crucified (but survived). This is real history, but a history that has been buried and forgotten for too long.
This time-shift (the chronological chasm) even effects Arthurian Legend. These early Medieval stories say that Joseph of Arimathaea was a soldier working for Emperor Vespasian. But to get Joseph from the crucifixion to AD70, they make him go to sleep for 3 days, but wake up 40 years later, having not aged at all. This are the absurdities that this chronological time shift has created.
Ralph Ellis, I am very familiar with your work and appreciate your dropping in to view and comment on this video. These types of thesis and hypotheses are so rich with data and possibilities awaiting validation and further discoveries. I find it unfortunate that most are unwilling (possibly due to fear) of having their paradigms shift too far for their comfort. I love the simplified term taken from the Hindu texts, "There is no greater religion than the truth." I appreciate your work and major contribution to revelations of possible lost history. It would be an honor if we might have an opportunity to interview you on some of your understanding on this issue and King of Eddessa. Thank you
@@ironcharioteer6660 Ha, ha - ask the mainstream. They fear my work: a. Because they cannot refute it. b. Because it will pull down classical beliefs. c. Because it means they have been teaching rubbish to their flocks and students, for hundreds of years. Which professor or priest will admit that their whole life in education has been a worthless lie? R
This is sounding very positive for the concept of Ralph Ellis is in fact Saul / St Paul / Josephus, and Jesus (Rebel King from Edessa) was 'crucified' in AD 68 during the Jewish Revolt. Would 'an Egyptian' then be a descendant of Cleopatra?
This is very intriguing, but let's do this to Elvis. We shift him to the 1930s; we call him Millard; we say he was born in South Bend but lived in Mississippi for a while, we say he had an orchestra & performed amazing acrobatics, & we say he was sent to the electric chair when he refused to go to WW2, but he returned briefly as a ghost. Is that still Elvis? I think that’s just a character we made up who shares a couple of minor traits with Elvis. It's hard to differentiate him from a similarly mythologized Carl Perkins or Benny Goodman. Worse: we have all kinds of possibly fake songs from Millard but none from Elvis. What does it _mean_ to say they were the same guy?
Other than Time Shift, look at the probability of Location Shift. Why mention Governor of Syria be mentioned in relation to Egypt. I heard a historian mention Edessa where Jesus was brought up. He linked it to the Jewish Revolt with Edessa as epicenter.
Syria is where Judah Thaddeus’ (called Judah Thomas in Aramaic) camps were located. Menahem (his brother) likely frequented these camps after Judah’s death. Menahem is the Egyptian, Judah Thaddeus is Josephus’ Theudas.
I have seen Einhorn explain that Jesus was the Egyptian. There were many Jesus . That Jesus was an erotica or aristocrat. Jesus was never crusified on the cross. This is an eye opening story.
Wait a minute! Jesus wasn’t arrested on the Mount of Olives. He was arrested in the Garden of Gethsemane. Also to say that there has ever been a time in history without thieves/ robbers is absolutely ridiculous.😀
To put out the claim that the time shift was done to avoid competing accounts does not make any sense like this. One must also say why they wanted to avoid competing accounts. Where they not content with the behaviour of that Egyptian? Or was the Egyptian of a dual nature, both violent and melancholic? This way it makes the "new testaments" complete lies. If the Egyptian was violent insurgent and rebel against authorities then why try to make him into something else? Something he wasn't? Is this a gnostic influence?
Isaiah was not referring to anyone else but the Jewish condition and the coming events when nations united will realize their awful and unjust treatment of the Jewish people throughout the centuries.
Lena, these events are true. But happened in two different dimensions, ours, and a technically advanced one , our two dimensions ‘bled’ into one another twenty years apart.
Egyptian is Germanicus; called back from egypt by his (adopt) father Tiberius (and the Senate) to justify oneself for being there, because he had no mandate or jurisdiction to govern there. (out of egypt I have called my son). From that moment on was Germanicus on the run, he fled to arabia for 12 years.
Love God and love the people is what I get from his message why try to disprove the existence or the validity of Jesus imagine if she gave half the effort in loving people .....if anyone would change times and dates it would be rome ! Who you going to believe an empire or a group of poor people who took to heart the good news that all is free all that they didn't have to be enslaved by Rome ...to belive a government who's job it is to keep people ignorant of truths in order to maintain control over people
I think there was a rebellion triggered by the heavy taxes collected by the Pharisees for the Romans. They were hostile to the city and the temple. Pharisees had disowned them and were not performing any of the religious services like circumcision. I think the Romans interfered after they burned the city and destroyed the temple. Josephus refuses to provide refuge to some rebels because they were not circumcised, which means he was a Pharisee himself, loyal to Rome. His account of participating in the rebellion must be incorrect. Rebels must be rounded up and sold as slaves. I think the word Jesus may actually mean 'rebel'. Arabic version of Jesus rhymes with the Arabic version of 'rebel'. Probably similar in Aramaic. If it is a generic name though, there could be many people tagged with that designation. If Jesus was a rebel, why would Pharisees like Paul would oppose and then embrace Jesus? I think the Romans commissioned them to write the Gospels so that tax payment becomes a religious duty, which it was already for the Pharisees. I think Josephus may have had a hand in writing the Gospels for the gentiles. I think they had a blueprint to used in different geographical areas. If I were an emperor, I would do that too.
Lena's evidence is remarkable to say the least. It's hard to argue the great possibility she is right after watching her presentation. Did the New Testament Gospels shift the times of certain characters and events? If so, then why? This is not a minor concern if they had. In fact, there are a number of late ideas that need to be reconsidered if this is true.
The reason for the shift is Roman politics and propaganda. The real King Jesus led the Jewish Revolt, which was put down by Vespasian. When he became emperor, Vespasian did not want the history of this King Jesus being linked to the Revolt (he did not want copycat revolts). Likewise, the later Christian scholars did not was their new pacifist (King) Jesus being linked to the Revolt, let alone be the leader of the Revolt. (Even though Jesus was jailed alongside those who had committed murder in the Revolt - Math 15:7) And so in an unlikely alliance between Rome and Christianity, the date of Jesus mission (Revolt) was moved back by 40 years.
Because Paul and his cronies are liars; that's why.
All ancient cultures influenced the abrahamic faiths Christianity Islam and Judaism nothing original about these religionsI firmly believe in God but he was connected with ancient civilizations long before these three religions ever came to be thank you have a good day
@@RalphEllis Who was this leader Jesus? Izas? Alliance? As I see it the authors of the Gospels and the authors of Josephus are the creators of christianity whatever existed before was chrestianity a form of Serapis worship. These authors co-opted the prophesied Messiah the The Righteous Leader of the Essene and the Serapis Cult and the God of Judaism and the Julius Caesar Emperial worship cult creating their own Christ Cult.
@@EdenCultures Paul (Germanicus) is the Egyptian
"All who came before me were thieves and robbers." has a new meaning to me now! Robbers were rebels, just like Messiah! He was venerating, not criticizing them?!?
The Egyptian escaping on the Mount of Olives may be referenced by the young man wearing nothing but a linen cloth. Mark 14:51 "They seized him, 52 but he left the cloth behind and ran off naked."
The parallel Atwill finds to this in the sequence of parallels with Josephus is where Titus escape
s from a band of armed men in the same garden. Titus was "naked" because he was mentioned to be wearing no armor.
@@cameradanblack The parallel is with Josef fleeing potifar's wife. actually it is a star-myth; astrotheology, reason why it is told over and over again. So is Germanicus (Paul) to compare with the zoodiac-sign of Ophichius the snake-bearer and sea-fahrer. Germamicus sons were exiled to die to Pandateria (bandit-island). Paul travels in a storm to this same island were he shakes off 2 snakes in a fire after been bitten. the symbolism (by author Luke) is clear.
That was the resurrection of the OT martyers when the tombs were opened. The naked guy left behind his grave clothes?
And, lo, there was the sound of trumpets, or to be precise a yackety sax.
What's interesting is that Irenaeus stated in his _Against Heresies_ that Jesus lived to be almost 50 and was crucified by Pontius Pilate under the Emperor Claudius! That would be between 41 and 54 CE. So we may have outside Christian evidence of this time shift.
Jesus is Judah Thaddeus. The Egyptian is Menahem Ben Judah, his brother.
Both sons of Judas of Galilee.
Fantastic lecture ma’am! Thank u.
Man the other experts are gonna be kicking themselves they didn’t notice this! They’re gonna have a hard pill to swallow!
The gospel authors undeniably played fast and loose with their source material. The Jewish Antiquities was definitely used by Luke, and Luke even made mistakes only attributable to his reading Josephus incorrectly.
Like what??
Does the 'Saul / Paul' writer and his astral Jesus stories stand outside this time shift?
If the 'Saul / Paul character is based on Simon Magus, does he fit into your understanding?
If so, do the time-shifted stories establish an earthly version of the astral Jesus character in the Simon Magus stories?
Paul was a liar.
Simon Magus is the made up character.
Fascinating!
Wait a second: wasn't Pilate a big crucifier? Wait a second you were shifting the time forward but when you get to Jesus being around the age of John the Baptist, the time line is pushed backward. Thumb up on the video. Thank you for posting.
Hi, I'm wondering if Lena Einhorn, lmows Ralph Ellis on youtube, he say's the same thing, And mainstream scholars dismiss it, What gives?
Dave and Glen. .... I have likewise proved that the gospel timeline is later, in my books “King Jesus” and “Jesus King of Edessa”. I initially did this back in 1997, by proving that Saul was Josephus, and therefore the events of the Gospels were actually the events surrounding the Jewish Revolt. Since that time, a whole torrent of data from the Talmud, Gospels and Josephus Flavius, has proven this to be true. In short, King Jesus Em Manuel, was King Izas Manu VI of Edessa, a real king who led the Jewish Revolt, but lost to Vespasian and was crucified (but survived). This is real history, but a history that has been buried and forgotten for too long.
This time-shift (the chronological chasm) even effects Arthurian Legend. These early Medieval stories say that Joseph of Arimathaea was a soldier working for Emperor Vespasian. But to get Joseph from the crucifixion to AD70, they make him go to sleep for 3 days, but wake up 40 years later, having not aged at all. This are the absurdities that this chronological time shift has created.
Ralph Ellis, I am very familiar with your work and appreciate your dropping in to view and comment on this video. These types of thesis and hypotheses are so rich with data and possibilities awaiting validation and further discoveries. I find it unfortunate that most are unwilling (possibly due to fear) of having their paradigms shift too far for their comfort. I love the simplified term taken from the Hindu texts, "There is no greater religion than the truth." I appreciate your work and major contribution to revelations of possible lost history. It would be an honor if we might have an opportunity to interview you on some of your understanding on this issue and King of Eddessa. Thank you
I so love your work Mister Ralph Ellis!!!
Hi Ralph , been following your work. Why no mainstream corrobaration?
@@ironcharioteer6660
Ha, ha - ask the mainstream. They fear my work:
a. Because they cannot refute it.
b. Because it will pull down classical beliefs.
c. Because it means they have been teaching rubbish to their flocks and students, for hundreds of years. Which professor or priest will admit that their whole life in education has been a worthless lie?
R
Wowww amazing research
Wow, that is some fascinating information.
I love archeology in all forms.
A Excellent Video.. Highly Recommended.. Thank you Very Much For Sharing..
Interesting investigation into history. Compelling theories; enjoyed the video.
This is sounding very positive for the concept of Ralph Ellis is in fact Saul / St Paul / Josephus, and Jesus (Rebel King from Edessa) was 'crucified' in AD 68 during the Jewish Revolt. Would 'an Egyptian' then be a descendant of Cleopatra?
Well, from about 2 years old and 5 was in Egypt. At the age of 12, he was in Jerusalem. So for at least 9 years he was an Egyptian.
Didn't some early bibles contain prologues, or forewords, written by Josephus himself?
This is very intriguing, but let's do this to Elvis. We shift him to the 1930s; we call him Millard; we say he was born in South Bend but lived in Mississippi for a while, we say he had an orchestra & performed amazing acrobatics, & we say he was sent to the electric chair when he refused to go to WW2, but he returned briefly as a ghost. Is that still Elvis? I think that’s just a character we made up who shares a couple of minor traits with Elvis. It's hard to differentiate him from a similarly mythologized Carl Perkins or Benny Goodman. Worse: we have all kinds of possibly fake songs from Millard but none from Elvis. What does it _mean_ to say they were the same guy?
Einhorn explains that Jesus could be a Roman soldier with highest title in Roman soldier.
This was my understanding from muthvision.
Other than Time Shift, look at the probability of Location Shift.
Why mention Governor of Syria be mentioned in relation to Egypt.
I heard a historian mention Edessa where Jesus was brought up. He linked it to the Jewish Revolt with Edessa as epicenter.
Syria is where Judah Thaddeus’ (called Judah Thomas in Aramaic) camps were located. Menahem (his brother) likely frequented these camps after Judah’s death. Menahem is the Egyptian, Judah Thaddeus is Josephus’ Theudas.
Also, Edessa is not in Syria. It’s in present day Urfa, Turkey. It’s right on the border of Asia Minor and the Syrian desert.
I have seen Einhorn explain that Jesus was the Egyptian.
There were many Jesus .
That Jesus was an erotica or aristocrat.
Jesus was never crusified on the cross.
This is an eye opening story.
There is little doubt that the writers of the New Testament texts used Josephus as a source.
I love it.
Wait a minute! Jesus wasn’t arrested on the Mount of Olives. He was arrested in the Garden of Gethsemane. Also to say that there has ever been a time in history without thieves/ robbers is absolutely ridiculous.😀
Did you listen to what she said robbers is referring to?
To put out the claim that the time shift was done to avoid competing accounts does not make any sense like this. One must also say why they wanted to avoid competing accounts. Where they not content with the behaviour of that Egyptian? Or was the Egyptian of a dual nature, both violent and melancholic?
This way it makes the "new testaments" complete lies.
If the Egyptian was violent insurgent and rebel against authorities then why try to make him into something else? Something he wasn't?
Is this a gnostic influence?
Now we know why Isaiah says "his visage would be marred more than any man".
Isaiah was not referring to anyone else but the Jewish condition and the coming events when nations united will realize their awful and unjust treatment of the Jewish people throughout the centuries.
Awsome
Lena, these events are true.
But happened in two different dimensions, ours, and a technically advanced one , our two dimensions ‘bled’ into one another twenty years apart.
Egyptian is Germanicus; called back from egypt by his (adopt) father Tiberius (and the Senate) to justify oneself for being there, because he had no mandate or jurisdiction to govern there. (out of egypt I have called my son). From that moment on was Germanicus on the run, he fled to arabia for 12 years.
New Testament is a fairytale
the extreme left and right panning is really annoying no offense
Love God and love the people is what I get from his message why try to disprove the existence or the validity of Jesus imagine if she gave half the effort in loving people .....if anyone would change times and dates it would be rome ! Who you going to believe an empire or a group of poor people who took to heart the good news that all is free all that they didn't have to be enslaved by Rome ...to belive a government who's job it is to keep people ignorant of truths in order to maintain control over people
The concept of Christianity was stolen out of what we refer as Egypt by the greeks who conquered them.
Did he walk like one? 😂
No, the Egyptian is the other brother Menahem Ben Judah. Jesus is Theudas.
They’re both sons of Judas of Galilee.
This is old or at least common knowledge by now, I don't think it will be developped further.
Who cares!.
I think there was a rebellion triggered by the heavy taxes collected by the Pharisees for the Romans. They were hostile to the city and the temple.
Pharisees had disowned them and were not performing any of the religious services like circumcision. I think the Romans interfered
after they burned the city and destroyed the temple. Josephus refuses to provide refuge to some rebels because they were not circumcised,
which means he was a Pharisee himself, loyal to Rome. His account of participating in the rebellion must be incorrect. Rebels must be rounded up and sold as slaves.
I think the word Jesus may actually mean 'rebel'. Arabic version of Jesus rhymes with the Arabic version of 'rebel'. Probably similar in Aramaic. If it is a generic name though,
there could be many people tagged with that designation. If Jesus was a rebel, why would Pharisees like Paul would oppose and then
embrace Jesus? I think the Romans commissioned them to write the Gospels so that tax payment becomes a religious duty, which it was already for the Pharisees.
I think Josephus may have had a hand in writing the Gospels for the gentiles. I think they had a blueprint to used in different geographical areas.
If I were an emperor, I would do that too.
"MURDER AND A THIEF!" NOT 2 ROBBERS
How can Jesus hide in Egypt The People where Black right?
The ancient Egyptians weren't black, any more so than modern Egyptians.
lol you think Jesus looked like Bjorn Borg ….. you can walk from Israel to Egypt