I’m Greek living in San Diego (USA) over 48 years when I visited my Hometown Patras at the periptero: "One Water, please!" "4,50 euros!" "Tι λες ρε μαλάκα;" "Aaα έλληνας είσαι; 50 λεπτά..."
G’day from France. I’m an Aussie-Greek living in France. So Greece is our annual holiday destination. What happened to you is something that happens to me every time. Tous Malakes 😅
I am a greek living in Greece, and while this seems outrageous (and indeed it is), it is normal in Greece. Let me explain. While in other european counties, mostly in western europe, sparkling water is popular or even the norm, in greece its not really popular. Usually if you want to drink water in cafes they bring you still water or tap water bottled by the cafe, and these have normal pricing if not no extra charge at all (of course the type of cafe plays a role, they more fancy ones may charge it). Sparkling water, just called soda in greece, is considered more like a fizzy drink, so its marked up in price like fizzy drinks. A 330 ml can of coke for example, while you'll find it in a periptero for 1-1.20 euro, if you buy it in a cafe it's going to be 3-4 euro. Same thing for sparkling water. Again, prices vary depending on the fanciness of the cafe.
What you didn't get from this clip is that customers like this video's host are actually pressing these idiots to lower the prices. If everybody bothered to look at the receipt and make an issue out of errors and overpricing, involving such products, prices would eventually drop. But Greeks are sheep for the slaughter (literally and metaphorically) and too lazy to do anything for the betterment of their own condition and, as an extension, society's at large.
I am Greek and fed up with all that sh***. As already said you don't have to be polite all the time. But just to be fair on the other hand, when there is a price catalogue easily accesible like in this chain this is up to you. Also on the equation that contributes to excessive or "excessive" prices in coffee shops here, is the local coffe cultrure. Many of us use coffe as an "excuse" to meet and socialize, so there are times that we might spent hours in a coffe shop just with one coffe and a bottle of water. So high prices are not just about the products you consume, but is a way of "renting" that space for quite a time. Keep it up, and as i already said.....sometimes you don't have to be polite! :)
As Greek I can say you don't need to be nice at all .That water is way to expensive . There is a law in Greece that say water should not cost more than 50 cents and sparkling 1 euro .
There's shouldn't be a law to begin with. If they want to stock 1 million bottles of water which they overcharge like that and go unsold, let them know that they are my guest to do so. See how that plays out in the long run for every product or service they want to overcharge.
No dude. When you order that you have to pay that price. It is the same if you order Coca Cola. In super market it is 60 cents in Flocafe is 4 euros. Because you sit there, you listen to music and because they serve you. When you say sparkling water they understand something to drink and sit not just water for your thirst. The people working there do not make more money if they charge you 3,7 euros for sparkling water. Οι Έλληνες από κάτω μη γράφετε βλακείες. Ποιος πάει καφετέρια και παραγγέλνει μόνο ένα νεράκι για 50 λεπτά και να καθίσει σε τραπεζάκι ?
That is right. EVERY cafe in Greece gives you complementary tap water for free which in places like Athens is absolutely fine to drink (and of excellent quality). If you are on an island that doesn't have good quality water from the mains, they bring you bottled water for a very minor charge (0.5 EUR). However, if you order sparkling mineral water, then this is like ordering some Perrier i.e. a premium product and it has a different price.
I’m Greek living in Canada over 60 years when I visit Chania Crete my hometown and find they make an error on the bill the last one was at Loutro Crete 2023 October a tourist heaven. I was changed for a glass of orange juice €9 is like $20 Canadian. I took my time I had the Greek frappe and called the waiter and said that I noticed that you forgot your grade 5 mathematics and why €9 for a glass of orange juice. I send him inside to correct his mistake. He came back with correcting it to €3.50 I stay always in Hora Sfakion for 2 weeks and told my hotel manager he said he maybe thought you were from the government checking for price gouging. You did the write thing. I speak well Greek with authority if I need it in Greece. I enjoy your videos and waiting for the ne t one. This was educational.
@@bwana-ma-coo-bah425 Many foreigners working the touristic season in Crete specially in Hora Sfakion south side of chania over the white mountains probably he was because he don't speak the Greek Cretan accent that all locals speak. I guess the waiter was going pocket the €5 the bill was on a peice of paper. I was 9 when my family imigrated to canada. Cretans are Increatable people hospitality they even remember my grandfather from my birthplace Agii Apostoli 20 km away so families give my their house to stay for a week or more. I will visit again before christmas 2024 . Thank you for your comment
Thank you for being so kind to people when addressing this issue. I faced the same issue few weeks back and I complained to the management that the price of the water is too high! The stuff manager agreed, but I was informed that this is the policy and they cannot do anything to help further. Since then I decided to boycott Flocafe for ever. I am a Greek living in UAE and it was shocking to realize during my vacation to Athens that the price charged for a small bottle of water was that high. Thank you again for highlighting this unfair economic treatment by Flocafe to its customers!
Just tell them you want to return the bottle if it hasn't been opened. Of course she can take it back. If they refuse tell them you won't pay for the water and let them call the police (which they won't), they will make them take it back. And always check the prices before you order, especially if you are a foreigner and if they don't have a price list run away.
που φτασαμε να χρεωνουν το μπουκαλακι το νερο στα φλοκαφε 3.70 το sparkling και καλά ειναι "ποτό/αναψυκτικό" δεν ειναι νερό. επειδή έχει λίγο αέριο CO2 μέσα. sparkling water is supposed to be a bit more expensive than regular water but 3.70 for 250ml in Greece at Flocafe is outragious. im sure they could cancel the issued reciept, they just didnt want/care to look at it.
The exact same bottle from Sklavenitis it's 0.7€, so this being almost 530% pricier is definitely a case of profiteering on behalf of the shop. Add their initial mistake of charging you for another product, add their awful service. Nice job Rodrigo, now that I've seen this I'll never go to these cafes and tell my friends not to also.
@@geogeo2299 the "comparison" is about free market, whether it is the Grand Bretagne or a flo cafe they ask whatever they want and you are free to take it or leave it, simple as that, on a side note, why would you compare supermarket prices with cafe`s and restaurants!?
@@karpoezi And the criterion on whether you go or not, is how much their product is overprized. In which case, as I already mentioned, that is 530%. Now, if you think a 530% overpriced product is fair enough for having a cozy sofa to sit on, plus a sh1 tty, kafeneio-like service , and if you compare that to Costa Navarino.... then sorry my friend but I think the free market has entirely skipped you at some point
@@geogeo2299 you are totally missing the point and you repeat your self, but in any way, how you feel about it is totally irrelevant because at the end of the day you are NOT the one who pays the salaries and bills of any of those establishments and you are NOT in a position to decide what is fair for them to earn or not, you may only decide to take it or leave it, is it that difficult to understand this?
They didn’t realize you wanted to give it back from what I heard them say. They thought you wanted a discount. Next time don’t be so nice some people are apes 😊
Well, there was s scam regarding the size, but otherwise? I pay in a bar probably 4-5 times more for bottle of beer than in the shop, is not that the norm basically?
It can happen ,depending on ‘’ cava ‘’ = the company that brings you soft drinks in your cafe / restaurant… If they bring to the cafeteria 250ml cause simply they don’t have 350ml one ,they cannot change the price from machine cause of new systems.. They had to inform you on the spot before you order it ,that’s the only fault of them
Just so you know, this has nothing to do with you not being Greek. This water would cost exactly the same for me. It's quite sad when you consider the average salary and rent prices in Greece. It's not like you went into a small business with sketchy people, you literally went to one of Greece's biggest coffee and pastry chains.
What happened is that all three of them are a bit on the thick side, to put it mildly. They didn't understand s**t of what you were asking them to do, which is take back the unopened bottle and charge you only the coffee.
Next time please check the menu to make sure the prices you're being charged are the ones on your receipt. It is your duty as a consumer to call them out on it if something is amiss. They weren't necessarily trying to overcharge you, that could have been an honest mistake. 3,70EUR is quite a lot but sparkling is always more expensive in Greece as we prefer still water and from what I saw it was in a glass bottle which brings the price up even more. You could get the same bottle for 80 cents at the supermarket. But remember that in restaurants and cafes everything is much more expensive.
Some percentage is because of high rent for the place some probably because they can but you could have insisted on not paying or tell them before ordering if they are honest about prices. But 3.7 euro for that is criminal.
3:10 timestamp be like "george! george! the turist is doing the math again george" and the staff manager was like "no no he made us cut a receipt so now he has to pay" you were cheated badly, the water itself is like 1 euro, also you can refuse to pay for it, carry change and leave those on the table and walk away
Interestingly I am not a "tourist", I've been a local resident already for several months and although it's the 1st time I've ordered sparkling water, I've had coffee and burgers there before.
@@thisismylifeingreece I don't know man, it's the first time I'm finding out that sparkling water costs that much, personally because i like sparkling i usually find it at around 1 euros in convenient stores while in Restaurants it should be around 2-2.50 which isn't a good price per say but it it still isn't nearly close to 4. So in my opinion you pretty much got scammed be it the tourist price or just the restaurant price.
You should have never paid for the water. Pay for the coffee and leave. They gave you the wrong water and you didn't get to drink it with your coffee. That's their problem, not yours. Let them learn and manage their business practices better.
The gentleman asked kindly if it could be returned back, as the price was very high. Honestly, I asked the same at Flocafe when I realized that the water charged was too overpriced, even though I hadn't opened the bottle!
The people working there do not make more money if they charge you 3,7 euros for sparkling water. Whilst the people who work there might not make money, the establishment does.
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I’m Greek living in San Diego (USA) over 48 years when I visited my Hometown Patras at the periptero:
"One Water, please!"
"4,50 euros!"
"Tι λες ρε μαλάκα;"
"Aaα έλληνας είσαι; 50 λεπτά..."
G’day from France. I’m an Aussie-Greek living in France. So Greece is our annual holiday destination. What happened to you is something that happens to me every time. Tous Malakes 😅
I am a greek living in Greece, and while this seems outrageous (and indeed it is), it is normal in Greece. Let me explain. While in other european counties, mostly in western europe, sparkling water is popular or even the norm, in greece its not really popular. Usually if you want to drink water in cafes they bring you still water or tap water bottled by the cafe, and these have normal pricing if not no extra charge at all (of course the type of cafe plays a role, they more fancy ones may charge it). Sparkling water, just called soda in greece, is considered more like a fizzy drink, so its marked up in price like fizzy drinks. A 330 ml can of coke for example, while you'll find it in a periptero for 1-1.20 euro, if you buy it in a cafe it's going to be 3-4 euro. Same thing for sparkling water. Again, prices vary depending on the fanciness of the cafe.
What you didn't get from this clip is that customers like this video's host are actually pressing these idiots to lower the prices.
If everybody bothered to look at the receipt and make an issue out of errors and overpricing, involving such products, prices would eventually drop.
But Greeks are sheep for the slaughter (literally and metaphorically) and too lazy to do anything for the betterment of their own condition and, as an extension, society's at large.
I am Greek and fed up with all that sh***. As already said you don't have to be polite all the time.
But just to be fair on the other hand, when there is a price catalogue easily accesible like in this chain this is up to you.
Also on the equation that contributes to excessive or "excessive" prices in coffee shops here, is the local coffe cultrure. Many of us use coffe as an "excuse" to meet and socialize, so there are times that we might spent hours in a coffe shop just with one coffe and a bottle of water. So high prices are not just about the products you consume, but is a way of "renting" that space for quite a time.
Keep it up, and as i already said.....sometimes you don't have to be polite! :)
Valid points.
Never go to that chain again. Very simple.
As Greek I can say you don't need to be nice at all .That water is way to expensive . There is a law in Greece that say water should not cost more than 50 cents and sparkling 1 euro .
that law applies only to places where the customer has no other choice, i.e onboard ships/planes/trains, cinema`s, public building cantine`s etc
@@karpoezi Yes exactly!
There's shouldn't be a law to begin with. If they want to stock 1 million bottles of water which they overcharge like that and go unsold, let them know that they are my guest to do so.
See how that plays out in the long run for every product or service they want to overcharge.
@@karpoezi this law applies to every single place other than hotels for the 500ml bottles of still
water.
@@mavil64 σκουριασμένο τηλέφωνο νιούζ σίγουρα..αντι να ακούς τον κάθε ειδικό του κ0λ0υ γκουγκελ: ΥΠΟΥΡΓΙΚΗ ΑΠΟΦΑΣΗ 70776/2016
Keep making videos like this, these restaurants need to be exposed.
big deal even to mention for 20 cents, are you that cheap?
No dude. When you order that you have to pay that price. It is the same if you order Coca Cola. In super market it is 60 cents in Flocafe is 4 euros. Because you sit there, you listen to music and because they serve you. When you say sparkling water they understand something to drink and sit not just water for your thirst.
The people working there do not make more money if they charge you 3,7 euros for sparkling water.
Οι Έλληνες από κάτω μη γράφετε βλακείες. Ποιος πάει καφετέρια και παραγγέλνει μόνο ένα νεράκι για 50 λεπτά και να καθίσει σε τραπεζάκι ?
That is right. EVERY cafe in Greece gives you complementary tap water for free which in places like Athens is absolutely fine to drink (and of excellent quality). If you are on an island that doesn't have good quality water from the mains, they bring you bottled water for a very minor charge (0.5 EUR). However, if you order sparkling mineral water, then this is like ordering some Perrier i.e. a premium product and it has a different price.
I’m Greek living in Canada over 60 years when I visit Chania Crete my hometown and find they make an error on the bill the last one was at Loutro Crete 2023 October a tourist heaven. I was changed for a glass of orange juice €9 is like $20 Canadian. I took my time I had the Greek frappe and called the waiter and said that I noticed that you forgot your grade 5 mathematics and why €9 for a glass of orange juice. I send him inside to correct his mistake. He came back with correcting it to €3.50 I stay always in Hora Sfakion for 2 weeks and told my hotel manager he said he maybe thought you were from the government checking for price gouging. You did the write thing. I speak well Greek with authority if I need it in Greece. I enjoy your videos and waiting for the ne t one. This was educational.
Crete is magnificent. Waiter must have been from the mainland.
@@bwana-ma-coo-bah425 Many foreigners working the touristic season in Crete specially in Hora Sfakion south side of chania over the white mountains probably he was because he don't speak the Greek Cretan accent that all locals speak. I guess the waiter was going pocket the €5 the bill was on a peice of paper. I was 9 when my family imigrated to canada. Cretans are Increatable people hospitality they even remember my grandfather from my birthplace Agii Apostoli 20 km away so families give my their house to stay for a week or more. I will visit again before christmas 2024 . Thank you for your comment
Thank you for being so kind to people when addressing this issue. I faced the same issue few weeks back and I complained to the management that the price of the water is too high! The stuff manager agreed, but I was informed that this is the policy and they cannot do anything to help further. Since then I decided to boycott Flocafe for ever. I am a Greek living in UAE and it was shocking to realize during my vacation to Athens that the price charged for a small bottle of water was that high. Thank you again for highlighting this unfair economic treatment by Flocafe to its customers!
Just tell them you want to return the bottle if it hasn't been opened. Of course she can take it back. If they refuse tell them you won't pay for the water and let them call the police (which they won't), they will make them take it back.
And always check the prices before you order, especially if you are a foreigner and if they don't have a price list run away.
που φτασαμε να χρεωνουν το μπουκαλακι το νερο στα φλοκαφε 3.70
το sparkling και καλά ειναι "ποτό/αναψυκτικό" δεν ειναι νερό. επειδή έχει λίγο αέριο CO2 μέσα.
sparkling water is supposed to be a bit more expensive than regular water but 3.70 for 250ml in Greece at Flocafe is outragious.
im sure they could cancel the issued reciept, they just didnt want/care to look at it.
In Poland, it is sometimes cheaper to buy beer than it is to buy water :P
The exact same bottle from Sklavenitis it's 0.7€, so this being almost 530% pricier is definitely a case of profiteering on behalf of the shop.
Add their initial mistake of charging you for another product, add their awful service.
Nice job Rodrigo, now that I've seen this I'll never go to these cafes and tell my friends not to also.
yes, dont forget,if you ever go to places like c.navarino, to tell them that Perrier cost 80ct at sklavenitis
@@karpoezi Dude that was a flo cafe so I don't get the comparison with costa navarino....
and who fks costa navarino anyways
@@geogeo2299 the "comparison" is about free market, whether it is the Grand Bretagne or a flo cafe they ask whatever they want and you are free to take it or leave it, simple as that,
on a side note, why would you compare supermarket prices with cafe`s and restaurants!?
@@karpoezi And the criterion on whether you go or not, is how much their product is overprized.
In which case, as I already mentioned, that is 530%.
Now, if you think a 530% overpriced product is fair enough for having a cozy sofa to sit on, plus a sh1 tty, kafeneio-like service , and if you compare that to Costa Navarino....
then sorry my friend but I think the free market has entirely skipped you at some point
@@geogeo2299 you are totally missing the point and you repeat your self, but in any way, how you feel about it is totally irrelevant because at the end of the day you are NOT the one who pays the salaries and bills of any of those establishments and you are NOT in a position to decide what is fair for them to earn or not, you may only decide to take it or leave it, is it that difficult to understand this?
They didn’t realize you wanted to give it back from what I heard them say.
They thought you wanted a discount.
Next time don’t be so nice some people are apes 😊
Avoid these big coffee shop chain companies. Go for local coffee shop businesses. Usually they offer better coffee and services for lower price.
Well, there was s scam regarding the size, but otherwise? I pay in a bar probably 4-5 times more for bottle of beer than in the shop, is not that the norm basically?
It can happen ,depending on ‘’ cava ‘’ = the company that brings you soft drinks in your cafe / restaurant…
If they bring to the cafeteria 250ml cause simply they don’t have 350ml one ,they cannot change the price from machine cause of new systems..
They had to inform you on the spot before you order it ,that’s the only fault of them
Just so you know, this has nothing to do with you not being Greek. This water would cost exactly the same for me. It's quite sad when you consider the average salary and rent prices in Greece. It's not like you went into a small business with sketchy people, you literally went to one of Greece's biggest coffee and pastry chains.
the cradle of INFLATION
flo is going bankrupt with kind of prices
Chain cafes are generally more expensive. But try Mikel or Franklin Coffee House who have fair prices
Mikel and Franklin are both chain cafes. But Franklin makes a very good coffee.
Sadly it is common practise to charge more tourists but the prices have skyrocketed for the last 2-3 years so i dont know.
What happened is that all three of them are a bit on the thick side, to put it mildly. They didn't understand s**t of what you were asking them to do, which is take back the unopened bottle and charge you only the coffee.
She did not understand you, she thought you wanted a discount… argh… 😤
"I am not going to confront" Video title: Are you sure about that?!
No one if forced to buy something one didn't order. Simple as that.
If they are no respectful just don't return there. Να'σε καλά.
Next time please check the menu to make sure the prices you're being charged are the ones on your receipt. It is your duty as a consumer to call them out on it if something is amiss. They weren't necessarily trying to overcharge you, that could have been an honest mistake. 3,70EUR is quite a lot but sparkling is always more expensive in Greece as we prefer still water and from what I saw it was in a glass bottle which brings the price up even more. You could get the same bottle for 80 cents at the supermarket. But remember that in restaurants and cafes everything is much more expensive.
Some percentage is because of high rent for the place some probably because they can but you could have insisted on not paying or tell them before ordering if they are honest about prices. But 3.7 euro for that is criminal.
Shocking prices!
3:10 timestamp be like "george! george! the turist is doing the math again george" and the staff manager was like "no no he made us cut a receipt so now he has to pay"
you were cheated badly, the water itself is like 1 euro, also you can refuse to pay for it, carry change and leave those on the table and walk away
Interestingly I am not a "tourist", I've been a local resident already for several months and although it's the 1st time I've ordered sparkling water, I've had coffee and burgers there before.
@@thisismylifeingreece I don't know man, it's the first time I'm finding out that sparkling water costs that much, personally because i like sparkling i usually find it at around 1 euros in convenient stores while in Restaurants it should be around 2-2.50 which isn't a good price per say but it it still isn't nearly close to 4.
So in my opinion you pretty much got scammed be it the tourist price or just the restaurant price.
You should have never paid for the water. Pay for the coffee and leave. They gave you the wrong water and you didn't get to drink it with your coffee. That's their problem, not yours. Let them learn and manage their business practices better.
Deffo got scammed. Intentionally.
This guy is amazed that a product in a coffee place is more expensive than on the mini market(periptero)😂😂😂
The chain is just overpriced, don't go there
so they just made a mistake in the size, ok.
Peripteros are also expencive . SM are the cheapest
Ston OAED kai xaste kana kilo
I am half Greek
That was a huge ripoff 😮
FML a video on youtube about 80ml of water... talk about 1st world problems
Do you know about Greek Mafia?😅😂😅
You made a video paying 3,70 euros for a bottle of water at a restaurant in Greece..? Out of ideas for your vlogs?
@@Holylicious at least I make my own videos and I don't post clips of other people on my channel like you love. Got any ideas for my vlog?
THEY PRINTED THE RECEIPT WHY YOU TRY TO RETURN IT
The gentleman asked kindly if it could be returned back, as the price was very high. Honestly, I asked the same at Flocafe when I realized that the water charged was too overpriced, even though I hadn't opened the bottle!
The people working there do not make more money if they charge you 3,7 euros for sparkling water.
Whilst the people who work there might not make money, the establishment does.
@@nickdaniil3327 Was there a printed catalogue, listing the prices before you order?
bro didnt just go to a GOODYS and bought sparkling water saying he got over charged paying 3 euros