How to Roofing - Why I Chalk Lines before Installing Shingles
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Hello I'm not a roofer or even a carpenter I'm just a guy who built a 12x12 shed and it didn't come out square so when it came to me to putting the tar paper on it definitely was not square. But I'm thankful to you for showing me how to square up my shingles. Couldn't have done it without you! Thanks again ! Dave
You’re smart for doing it that way😊 I roofed with my Dad for many years and he took pride in doing things the right way too.
I've been roofing for 17 years and I can tell you I have never roofed a house that is square. So if I run my underlayment, even perfectly straight, along the eave there is zero chance it's straight in relation to the ridge. I will never roof a house without chalking & no one who works for me will either. This is why we see disappearing rows, and/or crooked rows, exposed nail rows, etc that don't seal properly and leak.
Good on you for taking the time to be absolutely sure before you start.
Nothing wrong with chalking lines to make sure your coarse are straight. I am a shingle mechanic who puts 5 nails in a full shingle and each nail is through both laminates plus my pattern is proper so that there are no fasteners at or near the butt joints. Another nailing method that makes my shingle application second to none is that my nails are set snug like a bug to each shingle. not blown through and more importantly none left high to puncture through the above shingles exposure. So I only snap chalk lines when I install three tab shingles of coarse the bond chalk lines which run vertically and I snap every other coarse plus something I do that sets me apart. and shows my attention to detail is measure in between each rake and adjust my up down lines so I have the same size tab on each rake!! Also only time I snap lines with architectural shingle is when I shingle over the top of a dormer so I tie back in on time! I do snap lines to on a hip or ridge that is longer than 10' It makes my install go super fast. Here is a tip for the few contractors that do use a chalk line!! So you can pull your line super tight so that there is no sag remove the standard line and replace it with white masonry string! This will make your chalk line bullet proof!!!
You are right doing this process. For all those who believe that you don't need chalk line. Always lines can be affected and ending up with a misaligned shingles.
Thank you for reinforcing my point. Have a great day!
If you don't chalk lines, you're not a real roofer. The decking can dip or be higher in certain spots throwing your courses off dramatically. You cannot rely on your felt. You tear the roof off, put ur drip edge metal then measure from the drip edge Up 3 courses And chalk your line. Then do it every 40 to 50 inch depending on what shingles you're using. For gaf its 17 3/4 with ur inch overhang into the gutter. Then cut your rake. make sure you have less than 5 courses overhanging The Rake Take a shingle Turn it vertical. From the edge of the bleeder on the bottom to the edge of the bleeder on the bottom and cut your shingles same inch overhang on the sides as the bottoms
Ive been Roofing since i was 14 and im now 33 and before me my dad roofed his whole life we own Riley Roofing company in Burlington NC and i always pop lines every 10 in on 3tabs some do every 5 and half and architect i do 11 except on atlas shingles i do every 12 but if your nailing by yourself you can pop atleast 3 or 4 nails anything less i wouldnt recommend
I do 10 and 11 to also.
I work backwards... I start at the ridge and find dead center. Then I come down 16 inches at both ends and establish a control line. That control line then dictates all the lines below it. If there is a gable like your second example, once again, the control line helps me transfer my numbers over the gable. Then by the time I reach the top, I have a perfect finish.
Good stuff man do a good job take pride in ur work I’ve worked with a lot of roofers who don’t they just bang as fast as they can and collect money they even nail on there joints everyone just wants it done as fast as possible
Coincidentally, my roofer's name is Carl but I know it's not the person who commented on marking lines. My roofer uses lines and does it right or he would have been run off the first time he roofed my home. I'm guessing your commentor either works in an air-conditioned office or don't work at all. I don't know but I know he will never work for me. Keep doing it right! Good vid!
The way yur describing how u figure yur lines 4 the other side of that dormer is pretty much how I do them when it comes down 2 a point. With my differences being that I'll back it down 2 them first few courses I started at the bottom, n then filing it in. Last house had 3 courses w bout hlf inch squeeze. Black shingles n a 11/12 pitch looks great!
The roof comes out straight at the peak of the roof if you measure down from the peak of the trusses down to the shingle course. If you're measuring up from the eave to the shingle course the rows may not come out square with the peak. We usually run out 5-6 courses then measure down from the peak at multiple spots, snap a line if one side needs to be dropped slightly, and repeat. As long as the shingles are being lined up correctly while applying there shouldn't be much of an adjustment when measured.
Keep doing it I’ve done it for years brother!! It’s bulletproof
Lines are without a doubt great. Downfall is as an everyday roofer. We start before it reaches 90° outside. Mornings roofs have condensation. If chalking over condensation. You will look like a Smurf within and hour from the chalk lines running down the roof or on the brand new shingles. So we chalk only as we get about 4ft from the roof peak and possibly a few other guide lines if needed. To be honest we install strait roofs. But the Homeowner good, bad or ugly roof installation. The homeowners will almost always say " it looks great " without paying any attention to detail. But will instantly notice a flower smashed in the landscaping. The worst thing I notice doing repairs is blown threw nails or inproper nail patterns. I was never impressed by how fast someone could install a roof. Because almost always it's a sloppy nailing pattern.
Great video.
You can't go off the lines from the tar paper because if you install it crooked then your lines are off, It goes the same for synthetic. That's the biggest reason why you can't go off tar paper lines. Also when you're weaving she goes in The valleys you want them to have a good connection so that's another reason why you want to chalk line. It's as simple as that
Cant believe taking time to do it right is seen as controversial
Awesome video!
Thanks for passing that on and thanks to the rude guy for making the comment that made you generate this one.
(Pride in my work)... I loved that part.
With dimensional shingles I chalk every line 5-1/2 off my 12”-1/4 mark and there so crispy and straight
Good video man,
Carl, that paper never goes on straight in the wind ,sharpness and jacks everywhere, and your holding the other end of the roll. ,get it
You better chalk lines because nothing is built Square anymore I'm old school So how Many young roofers now days know how to swing a bond when doing 3tabs to maker sure your bond lines are square ?
Great video thanks
Thanks!
Hey I’m working on my 3rd roof and I’ll always chalk lines but my issue here is that I have a porch roof that is tied into the house and a dormer/peak in the middle. But I’m trying to figure out how to catch course above that dormer/ peak since I have two different start points on the same side of the roof. My first start point will be on the porch roof which is 10ft further out then on the other side of the dormer/peak.
Is chalking lines and cheating shingles my best way to catch course above a dormer/ peak when there is different start points on the same side of the roof?
Great video by the way cheers
How do you deal with a roof that is slight wider on one end by an inch or two? Assume to just follow the lines and they will be slightly longer at the peak?
I throw lines no matter what. I can shingle blind folded but God likes to pull a fast one on me from time to time so i throw lines as a precautionary
We call it"fudging" whenever someone's course is either lower or higher. Everyone has their own terminology. Lol Another thing; we call those type of houses with valleys. The left far part of the roof we call a "blind valley" because there's no real reference point. Anyway, enjoyed your videos
Ok he starts chalking at 3:05 Until then he is addressing keyboard rambos.
Lines are important when you have a roof that bows or heaves.
tell them sure you can go ahead and follow the lines on tar papper 😁. then see if its straight and what not lol
The major reason why the lines are not straight on the paper once you install it is that the roof surface is never perfectly flat. If you lay down on the roof and look down the surface plane of the roof it's wavy, sometimes it's really bad that's what throws your lines off. It really depends on how well the entire structure was framed how level and flat the foundation and basement slab was poured and the corrective measures of the framers to correct the issue when they're framing such as using string lines to measure each individual stud in basement wall framing. Instead of just having all studs the same length because the slab in the basement it's definitely not gonna be flat and sometimes not level so if you build on top of that with the same length studs. It's gonna throw everything off from there on up and it transfers all the way to the roof. As far as being even once you get to the ridgeline the roof can be framed out of plumb/ square also causing the eve edge, the Ridge and the gable edges to not be square and straight from one another this can be caused the combination of poor foundation,slab pouring and framing practices.
amen brother
Will red chalk on shingles wash off with rain?
Very low chance. Red chalk is a permanent formula usually
Good points but took way too long to make them. This could have been a 2 or 3 minute video. Don't get lost in the weeds or repeat yourself. Gives us more time to watch your other videos. Also consider it is not an 'either-or" situation. Pop lines or you are a "clown"?! as some comments state. Some roofers don't need lines to achieve those results. They are just that good. Maybe they have great geometric vision or sense of space and distance. Bottom line: if you need lines to get the aesthetics you desire (notice I did not say quality as slightly unproportional lines still shed water. Form and function are two different things) then use lines. No crime. If you don't need them, don't use them. No crime there. Sad how the two camps feel defensive and need to trash the other.
With architects I don't snap lines often. It depends. If I stay true to the tab, I never have a problem. Like I said, it depends on the roof and the people working next to me.
Any experience roofer will chalk lines. Some houses it is a must. I would hate to see the clowns work that don't chalk lines. Real roofers take pride in everything they do.
Thank you for your comment to help reinforce the practice of chalking lines. Have a great day! Join me on Thursdays at 9pm est for the weekly LIVE show
roofing is not cabinet making .You don't have to be that precise Nothing wrong with felt lines.
If you spend a little extra time getting the underlayment on straight you can use those lines.
My roof is strait shot. Not sure how I will chalk lines by myself all the way up. I don't want to do the roof by myself but there seems to be no roofing contractors who do anything but install shingles. If a roof needs repair of the sheething or eaves extended they don't do that because it involves having a Building Inspector check the repair before they can install the shingles. The Shingle Install guys are more than happy to install the shingles over existing problems because they get paid big bucks just to install shingles. If the roof fails they can say it wasn't their fault because their shingles were good and the roof was rotted. Obama put so many contractors out of business that there are no or very few real roofing contractors. Juts shingle installers who can do a quick install job without Building Inspectors. It looks like my roof is a 12/7.5 pitch. Knee pads with good traction might be needed because the best traction shoes I have still slip. I've worked on a 12/4 and 12/5 pitch roof before but this 12/7.5 pitch roof has me spooked. The harness seems to restrict the ability to work and gets in the way more than helps. I have HD Architecturial shingles. I thought they would be much easier to install and not need very many chalk lines. Today was the day I had planned to make chalk lines and start nailing. The last shingle install this house had was way before I purchased the house and the installers set the air pressure too high and blew the nails right through the shingles on the back so even though I would rather get someone else to do the install I could be throwing all these efforts and money in the trash getting the wrong person. Just bewildered and taking it slow on my own.
Forget Carl. He obviously never did any roofing. Stay in your lane Carl!
When ur a good roofer, you literally never need to make chalk lines nor use lines from the paper....shingles click together when there straight, if you get you bottom row mostly straight, the rest of the roof will come out straight if you install them even...it's really simple but hard to explain, experience is the only reason my roofs come out so straight
😂 😂 😆
Get to the point
Any experience roofer will chalk lines. Some houses it is a must. I would hate to see the clowns work that don't chalk lines. Real roofers take pride in everything they do.
Thank you!!! I chalk lines all the time every line and I’ve been doing it for quite a long time it’s bulletproof