I used to think I was alone with these thoughts, but I am glad to hear someone else speak about it... I still face a lot of criticisms from family and friends who think I am no longer normal or I am heading for destruction, but I feel this inner peace within me, that I can make choices without the fear of going to heaven or hell... I am Nigerian
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
Heaven and hell is man made and made up internally. Ever notice that everyone’s heaven/hell stories are all different in appearance and what supposedly happen within these realms? It never adds up or has consistency in 99.9% of stories or confessions lol. Nothing more than scare tactics to keep you bound and shackled in fear. Live your life and be the best person you can!
@@i_am_adaiah1341 that’s amazing!! I’m glad you’ve found peace. That’s been my experience as well. People really thought I was headed for destruction, but I also found such great inner peace without any fear of heaven or hell. Thanks for sharing
I went from a born again Christian to reluctant agnostic over the span of 14 years. It is extremely difficult. Religious trauma is real. It feels like Christians who try to pull you back in just gaslight you the entire time and they don't even realize it.
Same thing happened to me recently and now I’m agnostic to. It’s weird because today I tried having a conversation with God and was like oh wait I no longer believe in God. It’s so strange living without Him. I’ll never set foot in any church ever again. No one in the church even reached out to me when I went through my break up with the elder. I did get a job today though the only thing I kept telling myself is “to show up and do the next best thing.” Glennon Doyl
I'm certain most of these strangers throwing Bible passages and various Christian slogans are just trying to convince themselves. The chances a former Christian hasn't heard them before is slim. They must know this by now.
Never apologize for the path you’re on. You’re causing no harm to anyone and those who chose to leave your channel...it’s their loss. You will never make everyone happy ❤️
Agreed. Well actually she is causing harm to weak minded christians. It does seem genuine with the things she struggled with as a believer, i struggled with these same things at one point.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 I think a lot of us have. It’s not easy to have faith in something that isn’t tangible. Some people twist and turn the Bible so much, it’s ends up looking nothing like what it started out as.
Bible has been twisted, turned and - to put it bluntly - counterfeited during centuries for political and financial goals so that the original message can be said to be lost. Besides, one can believe God without even belonging to any church/congregation.
I'm a believer but I don't go to church anymore.. I just don't like the churches and the way of thinking and doing things in them... I believe in God and I believe that God is love and kind and warm
Just like my brother, if you hate church you will hate heaven, because that what it is. Church. Think about everything that happens in a church, these things happen in heaven.
@@truman5838 If you are going to make a statement like that, add at least one quote to back up your claim... It's not like Jesus was very appriciated in synagoges or among church leadership? Not all of them were like that, but... It's written (in bible), that there's only one middleman, and that's Jesus Christ.
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Why wouldn’t Jesus sacrifice simply fix everything for everyone without all the other strings attached? None of us had to subscribe to Adam & Eve to become “sinners” so why isn’t Jesus’ sacrifice just automatic as well?
It is really awesome to hear someone else put into words what I also have experienced. I deconverted after being in Christianity for 30 years. Like you, I was fully into it, repent or perish painted on the back of my car. While my home life was a mess. I started asking questions early only to be dismissed so just went with the flow. I am glad I continued to research for myself and have now come to peace without fear. I appreciate your honesty in telling your story.
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
You're courageous to have broken free from the prison of fear-based teachings. Following the truth that you understand and not what is borrowed from others is real spirituality. Few have the courage to do that. All the best to you.
Are you not "following what is borrowed from others", in your de-construction, or apostasy? Sounds an awfully lot like that's exactly what you are doing. Grow a spine or whatever other part you need and find the understanding you lost, along with your soul, which cannot be redeemed at judgement day. It's WORK being a Christian. Not for the childish, lazy or feint-of-heart.
I've been wanting to make this same kind of video or at least a social media post about how I am no longer a Christian. I thank you for your courage and inspiration!
@@Psalms-fr8yy Same person he is to modern Jews. He was a Jewish apocalyptic rabbi calling for reforms whose character was exaggerated and worshipped by his early followers. To this day he would probably be unknown if it weren’t for the apostle Paul’s additional promotion of Jesus.
I left religion almost a decade ago now, but I brings me joy hearing others share their journey. Thanks for posting this, and I hope you're doing well in life.
Like most finns, I've never really been that religious person myself and after actually reading the whole bible through at quite young age it instantly became pretty obvious that the book is created and written by people to control other people. So I left the church 17 years ago and haven't had any regrets ever since. The thing that everyone should realize is that you can be a perfectly good person without religion. If you can't determine right from wrong then you lack empathy, not religion. Congrats for opening your mind and the best decision of your life. :)
You are clearly wrong and yet you said you can determine it yourself. You said you read the bible and saw people just wrote it to control. So in the very first verse about God creating, how did people make that up? Show your evidence that it was made up and that we got creation by natural means, not supernaturally by God. Then throw in life, etc, you are rather stuck but you still pretend you know what's right, then show it Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if you want to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation really happened by natural means. Also, throw in how we got the laws of nature, naturally. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html The odds are NOT there. ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
Also check out The Holy Quran. it's the missing link for our health & happiness. It's the only book where yhwh himself speaks directly. Thus it's the manual of use of the human machine. It's no joke. It's pretty potent because it contains mathematical paterns beyond human ability & references to modern human scientific knowledge(link in my channel's infos section). Prophet Muhammad was the prophet of Deut18:18 , John1:21 & John16:13 who led us to all the truth. Blessings 😉💗
Thank you so much for sharing. I have been in the process of deconstructing my Christian faith over the past year and a half and it’s been so confusing and painful yet freeing. I agree so much with you in that I have felt a lot of peace when I walked away and started unraveling the beliefs I had held as true for so long.
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
Man, making a video like this takes some serious bravery. *Bows in respect*. Sorry to hear about the toughest times. I hope things are better, much, much better now. You deserve it :)
Thank you for this vlogg. It has helped me a lot as I'm a 59yr old dude from Northern Ireland. I've been a Christian since 1987 but over the last year I've had all the doubts & questions that you articulated so well. You have encouraged me to be honest with myself & to own up to how I really feel about it all. I'd love to hear more about how long it took you to find the inner peace once you decided to walk away & what you now believe. Thank you again. I hope you have found true joy & peace in your life.
I became a Christian thirty years ago after having a very bad child hood I can honestly say that he has looked after me from the word go may be you will see things different when you are older he can do what he likes because he is god
Crazy that you said you were 30 in 2007, I thought you were 30 now! I'm just at the beginning of my journey of deconstructing my Christian faith. I feel like actual Scripture has a bit more ambiguous description of hell and bits that actually hint that hell is not eternal. I'm hoping this is true because SO much of me wants to keep my faith but you've inspired me to not be AFRAID of questioning. Thank you.
Well put! Honest questioning is the route to, if not wisdom, at least truth. I was about 19 when I started having those thoughts and honestly I was an atheist in a month or so (not that I could call myself one for a while). It'd been a process from before, but once I realised I had no good reasons to believe the things I believed were ACTUALLY true, it kind of fell apart from there. I recognised the need and wanting to believe the religious things and just realised it didn't really matter what I wanted to believe. What mattered was was it actually true. I'm still open to any and all gods and religions, but I can't take such things on faith, I need evidence. Good luck on your journey, and never be afraid to question. :)
Being somewhere forever would be hell no matter what. Heaven sounds like hell to me. When I expire, I don't want to go anywhere. I was nowhere before I was born and I'm totally confident I won't be anywhere when I die. Edit: Actually I think it's entirely possible that when I die, it turns out that my whole life was a simulation and in the real world, only a few days had passed.
I hope you've kept your faith....I'm answering to your year-old response. Too many people reject their belief, because it doesn't add up to what they think is correct, and place a judgement upon the Creator for not being as sensible or as smart or as wise as they are. Our understanding of God cannot be found in the Absolute Self. An imperfect being needs a perfect Source.
I gave up being a Christianity a Long time ago. I became an Atheist in 1989, in 1994 I became an Agnostic, in 2005 I became a Pagan. Worshipper of S-U-N, Cats and Women. I believe in the ban of Long Skirts and Long Dresses. I am in favor of Mini-Skirts,Short Dresses, Last Not least Daisy Duke Shorts. I don't conform to Conservatives especially Jim Duggar and his "family" which is a cult in disguise.
Thank you so much for sharing this… I resonate so much with your story, and I think I’ve also just realized I’ve been so afraid to leave the Christian faith, because I grew up as a pastors kid… I’ve been afraid that my sense of belonging would be shattered, but I actually feel so free
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
Your story almost sounds identical to mine. I was caught up in a cult like church during a lonely sad time in my life. I poured myself into it, travelled North America preaching. But in other areas of my life it was lacking. After 20 years I detached, unfortunately my wife and I separated, and I’m somewhere in the mid stages of deconstruction. Thank you for sharing this as it made me realize I’m not the only other crazy one out there in a similar situation with similar thoughts.
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
I have always had this dilemma in my head. If God is so loving and forgiving, why is the believing so important? Let's say that I would have lived all my life trying to be good but not believing there would be anything after, and after death I would be at the gates of heaven, and denied to get to heaven just to because not believing. I think there can be God, or not, but all this religion and writings are made by man because of politics. Just do as we say, and feel guilty anyway, pray for forgiveness, and be quiet. That is a perfect situation for those in power.
Your being a hypocrite, would you like it if someone believed in you, but didnt show any works. What if someone said to you, i love you often, but disregarded everything you said and cheated on you all the time, and never did anything for you. Would you accept that.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 I often wonder, aren't those who live their lives being good and honest without the fear of God actually even more suitable to get to heaven, because they just chose to be good without any strings attached?
Your perspective is wise, deep but incorrect. On the one hand there are your good works / moral deeds which is what you are referring to. On the other hand their is sin which is breaking Gods law. For example though shall not lie. If you lie once that makes you a liar for all eternity. So you see you are comparing two entirely different things. God did not die on the cross for good works. God died on the cross for the sins your sins. Before Jesus died on that cross you could be sorry, you could repent a million times if you died - that one lie will still land you in hell for eternity. Do you see our situation. 2000 years ago was the first time humans with zero sins started walking the face of the earth. Because for the first time they were able to repent and also throw all their sins into Jesus Christ. And then continue to live Holy and everytime they made a mistake they repent again and call upon the blood. A human that dies without v sin is a child of God heading for heaven. A human that dies with one or more sins is a child of satan when he dies he goes to be with his father on hell. So please don’t mix things up. If Hitler on his death bed realises his error repent genuinely and throws his sins in Jesus even He will make it to heaven. Your good works do count for something though. They determine your reward in heaven however to get into heaven to see those rewards you have to be Holy without a single spot of sin on your soul. The only way to achieve that is Jesus Christ. Hope this blesses you.
My mom is 'very Christian' and continuously tells my siblings and me that we are not good enough, that we should pray and go to church etc. She knows a whole lot of prayers by heart, even in foreign languages and I must say that she is very serious about that. Some people go to church and are very fake. She is not like that at all. She is 'worried about our souls'. However, I feel God when I'm nature or when I can help someone when I work or by saying or doing something. I really avoid prayers where the blood of Jesus and other similar words are used. They depress me, but my mom uses them because they are considered important in special prayers. I just feel that is not my world. Many years ago I had a special experience during which I had mystical visions for some days. I felt God's love very strongly inside me. It was like sunlight. I had problems with my father at the time. 'I heard' God's voice telling me 'I'm also your father and I love you as you are'. Those special days changed my view about God and my life completely. I'm 100% sure that there are negative forces and they often influence our thoughts without us noticing. We should be aware of that and shouldn't always believe our thoughts. Some people follow their negative thoughts without being aware of those negative energies. All in all, I believe there are many reasons for people to act as they do (in a negative or positive way) and so I think nobody has the right to judge them except for God but I can't believe that souls remain in hell eternally. I believe God's power is the strongest and it can heal anything if it's necessary. Sometimes we must suffer to understand some lessons, but not eternally, in my view :D!.
I loved your heartfelt and logical breakdown of why Christianity has major problems. I have also deconstructed my faith, or rather am doing it constantly.
The way you have deconstructed Christianity reminds me a lot of my own journey and where I have ended up in my spirituality. At some point I felt like I was spiritually dying because I was thinking about things logically and letting go of almost everything in my Christian faith. It was at that point I had to build any spiritual beliefs on love and the consciousness within myself. Everything contains this consciousness and therefore we are all United. Because this is not a physical force, We are more than this body.
You are so freaking brave and strong to open to people like this. I have been on the journey of this channel for pretty long and still loving this more and more. Love and hugs Rachel. Lumilapio Everyone!
I'm glad more people are starting to question these now, the world is finally opening up and I think you're doing great, be strong and keep pushing forward :)
The world should speak up but not go braindead at the same time. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html The odds are NOT there. ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
Don't apologise. I'm proud of you for evolving. I just can't watch this right to the end because I've got my own sh1t going on right now. You're a wonderful speaker though.
I've seen it often where people get hurt at church, or in life, or whatever, then all of a sudden God does not exist because of it. I don't go to any churches anymore and haven't for a long time but that being said, I didn't go braindead because of it. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html The odds are NOT there. ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
So yeah, party on...doesn't make you right, either. No atheists in foxholes is really true. Facing your end of life, will probably show more prayers going up, than from Billy Graham. Care to bet?
Your explanation of trying to do Gods will while doubting your own will was really where things fell apart for me. I began to see anything I wanted for my life as being selfish or wrong. It was impossible to know his will and wrong to follow my own. I had given my heart to the church I was going to. I just could not live a holy life. Anyway I left not that long ago. It's really difficult because the beliefs about who we are still linger. My pastor taught me that we are nothing that we are dead in our sin without Jesus. Why an awful thing to tell people. Especially to those struggling with issues of self worth.
Exactly I 100% agree like there are already people suffering from mental health issues and for them to go up to them and have the audacity to say something like that. It’s derogatory and condescending. It’s disgusting. And the whole idea of a baby being born in sin. Wtf??! What did that baby ever do? It just came out of the womb? Why did God create that baby if it’s on sin?? It makes absolutely 0 sense
Thanks so much for taking the time and using great care in sharing your story, Rachel. As I sort out my own faith and pastor/church ( or not) and also my marital situation, podcasts like this one will be very helpful. I hope that you will continue to share what you have gone through and have learned.
Thanks so much for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and started studying the New Covenant on my own. See in the beginning I was sold out on the unconditional love and safety in the Saviour. Although having good intentions, when churches preach law it becomes a whole legalistic religious organization that robs us of our true identity and freedom that we are supposed to have. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the original Gospel says "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness/(okayness) as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel says "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven for ever". Religion says "You have to work to get close to God" the Gospel says "You cant get closer to your Father as He is in you and you are in Him". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace says "Dad loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE in this irreversibly restored relationship". Religion says "You are not good enough" and the true Gospel of Grace says "You are fully accepted, with a new heart which is righteous, holy and blameless. That's your identity, now live from your heart and be yourself". Religion is a bunch of rules to follow as a prerequisite to acceptance versus the Gospel of Grace providing immediate irreversible acceptance which will produce the "works"/performance over time, but our performance is SECONDARY to the "Work Christ did". This reveals a bit of what I found please see this link for more: ruclips.net/video/RHxbZEwbhHg/видео.html This is 8 years later, in the mean-time I started a small bible study group where everyone is on the same level and unconditionally accepted, where their opinion is valid and important. God's love.
Thanks for sharing your story and being honest about where you are now in regards to faith and God/Jesus. I myself am going through a similar journey and I totally related to everything you said and I agree with your realizations. It is a long road to de-program and personally it’s been painful. It confirms my decision when I hear similar stories like yours ❤️
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
I honestly think that Jesus would despise most modern churches. Christianity has bastardized many of Jesus' teachings which were actually good. He would not have wanted to form a personality cult around himself.
Jesus drove away the money-changers from the temple. In USA and many other places religion is abt money and power. My understanding is that JC would not approve that. Many religions are dens of thieves.
I could agree this comment a lot. Rachel, you mix in this video your bad experience about church to truth about God. I have changed the church many times and at the time when I was far from God and biblical lifestyle, I still could not deny the truth about God as a Creator and the historical truth about salvation. I just thought that it is not for me or that I want to make my own path.
And I see in your speak a lot of that you want to control your own life. Other thing is your understanding about other religions, I believe the idea or word Paul mentioned in letters that people who don't know the word may do want the word commands by nature because of the law in the heart. And hindu religion has more "churches" than in Christianity. So that's not true 😊👍
But I keep praying for you. And I respect your choice now because I genuinely believe you're a really smart person so you will question your choices now and also your nowadays choices in the future 😉❤
Hello! My name is Jocelynn. I have no idea why I found your video but God knows and I don't believe it's an accident that I saw it. :) I realized I had had similar questions and thoughts and such that you have had, and so I just wanted to share if it's helpful. Also just want to say I'm really sorry that was your experience with christianity, wow that "church" sounds honestly so awful, good for you for getting out of there! That they shunned and shamed you is awful, and really speaks to what kinda spirit they may have been operating in, certainly doesn't feel like the spirit of the Lord. From what you described that was not Christianity at all. It honestly breaks my heart to hear this, that is so not okay or loving or kind. You're also totally right that giving someone an ultimatum is not a relationship at all! One thing that really helped me understand this notion of heaven and hell more is that, hell isn't a specific place God sends us to punish us for not choosing him because he's mad or gets joy in us suffering, it's more that he lets us choose and honours our choice and if our choice is to not be in relationship with God, we then we are going to be in a place or space void of anything that is loving, beautiful, peaceful, just, etc, not because God is punishing us by taking them away, but because without His presence, all those things are not there, because those things are God, those are the qualities of God, they are who He is, his essential nature so if we don't want to be in relationship with Him we would not be around those things, you know? And I know that it pains God if that is what we choose because of course like any (healthy) father, he wants to be in relationship with his children, but, he still lets us make that choice ultimately. Ezikiel 18:23 speaks about how God doesn't take pleasure in the death of the wicked. I think this is where a lot of folks kinda went wrong when they chose to focus on the "fire and brimstone" aspects to encourage people to Christ, because that isn't even biblical IMO, nor is it encouraging! And what kind of relationships lasts if it was initiated on some level through fear? It's not going to be sustainable you know? I feel like this is what you're getting at (though I could be wrong). So it makes me sad when people are preaching the fear stuff and such because it's just not really showcasing reality. It's God's kindness that leads us to repentance (Romans 2:4) you know? Not fear. That was one thing I stated firmly when I was in the new-age but people were talking to me about the Bible and Jesus etc. I was initially very skeptical but eventually said I might be willing to look into Christianity, but if I believe in God it will NOT be because I am worried about going to hell, nor will it be because I'm just using it as a crutch. Regarding worshipping him and such, I really used to wonder a bit about that too - I talk about it in one of my videos I believe, I think my very first one, but about how sometimes the worldly understandings make it seem like is God just some narcissist? But then I realized, God is the creator of everything, and incredibly Holy, and he created us to be able to worship him because he knew that that would be what makes us most complete, given that he represents EVERYTHING, you know? So it wasn't for his purposes because he was like "muhaha I want everyone to bow down to me, I am a ruler and controller" (as the world sometimes depicts him) but because he wanted us to feel complete, and he knows that we wouldn't be unless we knew our creator intimately, he knows that that is how we will achieve greatest fulfillment, by being connected to and praising the source of it all. And of course though, he still does give us the choice to turn away from him. The greatest difference between all other religions and Christianity I've come to realize is that all others are based on works - if you do this stuff, you might be reconciled to God, if you are perfect you might reach enlightenment etc. With Christianity, it's already done, Jesus paid the price and it is finished. I used to believe that each religion had aspects of truth and there was some then, "ultimate truth" that I was trying to find. But then I realized through experiences and life and God helped show me of course through his word, that that was just a deception. The enemy is always wanting us to think that we can always uncover more. It was part of the original sin right, satan was like....oo God just didn't want you to experience everything, so you should eat of this apple so you can know for yourself! ....it's classic enemy deception. I don't really see it as an inherent issue that "only one is right", because presumable one has to be? We can't both have one true God, and many gods, you know? It's like one of these ways has to be right. Because the existence of one, means the other wouldn't exist. I realize within the world of relativism, there is this notion that everything can be right, but objective and subjective truths get mixed up in that. Subjectively it can be the case, as in, I might think that yellow is the BEST colour, and you might think no, it's orange, well, we can both be right, because there is no ultimate truth on that, orange is true for you and your experiences, yellow is true for me and my experience.... but for objective truths, there is only one right answer. Eg for things like who created us? What happens when you die? Or something a little less of a big question, like gravity - I can't be like, that's great you believe in gravity, I choose not to! Well, the truth is it's still there, it still exists. You know? I'm getting into some deeper stuff now and don't want to make this a novel though apparently it already is lol, but anyway I just wanted to encourage you because you are asking great questions and God loves an inquisitive mind and He welcomes questions and I'm sorry if anyone ever told you that your questions were not allowed because it's so important that we truly wrestle with and understand what we believe and why. And I'm sorry if anyone ever made you feel like your thoughts didn't matter. When you spoke of going to that guy and you'd ask him your questions then he'd twist it all and make you believe what he said and you'd be like OH ya and then doubt yourself, but then realize wait a minute! That just makes me so mad and sad because man that is so bad and not at all what Jesus was preaching nor the character of God. (cont'd....)
cont'd - There are definitely many ways to be deceived out in the world for sure, and you and I kind of share opposite stories in a way in that I rejected Christianity for most of my life and was in the new-age and now am born-again, and yet I see similarities in the ways our minds work and the types of things that got us thinking. My heart now is to just dispel the lies of the world that keep people from engaging with the true heart of Christ. When you spoke about the heart being deceitful I just want to say that God also gives us a mind, it's not that we cannot trust ourselves at all, he still wants us to think and is with us in helping us! Also, I realized that I had believed this lie and I thought why does God only want me if he sees Jesus, like people would talk about how God sees me and he sees Jesus so he doesn't see sin. It would make me so sad because I thought, man - God doesn't like me, he just wants to see his son a bunch of times. But then I had this massive moment of realization where someone spoke truth over me and said that the only thing Jesus is washing away is the sin, the sin that wasn't even me or my essence to begin with. The real me, is under all that and it's actually who God created me to be, unique and special in God's eyes. I don't know if that is helpful but I hope so :) To the denominations and unity piece, I'm not sure if you ever looked into this or if anyone was able to support you in those questions, as they are valid! I just wanted to share in case no-one pointed this out, there is a difference between beliefs that tie to salvation - essentials of the faith, and then doctrine, i.e. non salvation related beliefs (eg how do we want to worship? Sing old songs, new songs, sing for a long time, improv it etc.). The many denominations relate to doctrinal differences but have the same core message of salvation - that Jesus died for our sins on the cross and made a way for us to be in relationship with God - definitely the split is a human thing but it doesn't necessarily impact the word of God - if that makes sense. You clearly have a heart for unity and that's so beautiful. Maybe you're being called to help reconcile some of that dis-unity within the church (which truly, in our world today does exist everywhere, not just within this area) but I pray that the disunity doesn't lead people astray because people mess up all the time and so we can't let humans define Christianity and Gods word for us. I just want to share too - your heart still matters to God, everything about it and anything you're feeling, it matters to him. He doesn't want you just ignoring it, and blindly following his will, it's just helpful to share with him and talk with the Lord. I think it can be hard because we might see God in a skewed way especially if we didn't have healthy parents (I didn't, so it was so foreign to me at first), so we can sometimes think of God as controlling and wanting us to follow his ways even if it's not what we want, but I have found that what He wants for my life is far better than anything I could have even imagined. If someone knows you best and knows what will support you best now and in the long run, would you want that support? And, it isn't always easy because life is hard, and Jesus never promised that we wouldn't have suffering, in fact he said we will face trials, but he assure us that he has overcome the world and he promised that he'd be with us to the ends of the age (John 16:33). The desires of your heart matter to God and he knows your deepest most greatest hearts desires. Anyway, honestly I respect you and feel your heart in this video very strongly. I feel God wants you to know how much you are loved and that those people you experienced, were falsely representing him, and that isn't His heart for you. You're his sweet child and he loves you very much and has never stopped loving you. :) If you read this far, thank-you! And if you genuinely want to chat or have questions about what I may mean, feel free to email me (I wish there was a DM feature on here but I can send you my email if you want to chat more! :)) All the best to you.
Hi Jocelyn, I didn't read past worshipping, but I want to comment about "hell" being away from God.... That's also a constructed term.. God is always with us, God was with me before I was a Christian, and now that I don't longer Believe this way, he still with me. I don't feel any hell, or sadness or out of His protection at all. Isn't that amazing ❤️❤️❤️
An honest, insightful and brave video. I've gone through the same kind of processes and can relate to a lot of what you said. For me it was the so called Toronto Blessing that came to Finland and some even crazier stuff after that when I started to realize something is wrong. Not an easy subject to open up. So big respect to you! Happy to find your channel!
im always glad to hear about anyone getting away from dogma and living life to its fullest good for u! I've been a nonbeliever 3 years now and man am I grateful n feel lucky! it took letting go of belief in God to get clean and it just keeps getting btr!
One of my biggest problems with God was that why the hell does he have to be so cryptic? Just say what you want and i will do it. But nope.. we have to interpret dozen times translated book for clues. WTF is that?
Basically we have a hard time getting it, so the Bible and other inspired texts are iterating the truth again and again. With the Bible, some translations garble up the meaning of the original text, to the point where only confusion is left.
Most people have heard “Jesus/God loves you”. Does that mean they have a relationship with God and will go to heaven? Depends on the individual. A relationship is 2 sided, you receive love and you give love back. God showed His love by suffering, dying on the cross and rising from the dead for you, now you show Love back by repenting of your sins (lying, stealing, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) and believing in Jesus as your Lord and saviour so that Heaven is in your future not hell
I’m so glad to hear! Christianity’s view on homosexuality is actually another one of the problems I had with it. It seemed so polarizing. For example, at first they would love bomb people then after a while if someone didn’t conform and “repent” from being gay then they would be kicked out of the church or looked down upon. That really broke my heart because I understand what it feels like to be misunderstood and be judged for a part of yourself that you can’t (and shouldn’t) change. I realize the whole of christianity isn’t this extreme towards gay people but the church in general seems to be. I wish you all the best and please know that you are loved so much and you should never have to change or suppress who you are for anyone or anything.
@@WildwoodVagabond That's so sweet, thank you! I have to lose a lot to find myself, I guess ;) I'm just scared that I'm making the wrong decisions ;) But I'm also making new friends. Your story helps other people, thanks for sharing!
@@WildwoodVagabond Same with trans people. Idk why theists often take the "identity comes from God" approach instead of claiming dysphoria and motivation to transition is part of God's plan lol
@@Psalms-fr8yy SHUT UP and leave him alone you toxic ingrate. AH...THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU. Study and learn and you’ll come to see it for yourself. I hope yoi break free of these chains that bind you.
Hello Rachel....this is the 2nd video I have watched of Yours....and I am very impressed by You....for WHAT COMES THROUGH is Your SPIRITUAL-ness....and Your expression is Timeless....just listening to Your Expression is Very Healthy & Healing. THANK YOU for being Genuine and BEING HERE. I am Mark and I grew up in the Bible Belt (the Ozarks of Sothern Missouri ) And I dont know how You side-stepped the the Superficialdom of Our "modern American culture" wherein You didnt allow Your TRUE SELF to be compromised. You are a Rare Soul....and I hope that whoever is with You....TREASURES YOUR COMPANIONSHIP (and I am only a minute into this 2nd video of Yours....but I had to acknowledge the Gift of Your Presence and Your Expression...THANK YOU
This was a brave video from a Texan. I'm religionless like many people here in Finland are as you know. That doesn't prevent me to live with "christian values" like being nice to other people, respecting life etc etc. even I don't believe in any higher power like God.
Yea, we really don't need saving in here Finland. Maybe in the USA is a better to place to try to turn people into real Christian because there is a lot of those who say that they go with Bibble but their actions say other.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 If Christian hates me then let him/her hate me because he/she then goes in their own mind to hell because the bible says: Love eachotter! So problem solved. In my case, I don't think that someone hates me because I do not go to church or use the cross to expel demons or even not use our country flag as underwear, some people hate someone because some other reasons (usually because their family has said that you must hate that color or some outsider) and as oh2mmy say: It's their problem, not my...
With religions one has to see the forest from the trees. They have life wisdoms covered in stories one shouldn't take literally. The wisdoms themselves can have profound truth to them though. For instance, it's important to have belief, hope and love in one's life whether or not you believe in God. Different cultures have created their own religions so they work the best where they are from. Western societies are based on Christianity even though most people are secular.
"With religions one has to see the forest from the trees. They have life wisdoms covered in stories one shouldn't take literally." This is very well said. I may have to quote this in the future.
God has not abandoned you...come back to Him there is a prophecy of the great falling away II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work. try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 ) daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
It is difficult but so worth it. I commend you for your courage. It definitely takes courage to allow yourself to ask questions. Keep up the good work. Sending you so much love ❤️☺️
4 months ago I thought I was happy then the break up happened and went from Christianity to agnostic so quickly. I just can’t do it anymore. It’s very very hard! I’d like to hear other peoples stories
@@annmarie6870 Unfortunately, many churches do harm. That does not mean God had something to do with it. I don't go to churches anymore but I don't blame God for what silly people do in the name of God. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html The odds are NOT there. ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
Great video as always, I’m an ex chrisitan now atheist as of 5 months ago, never been happier than before. Weight off my shoulders. I bow to no one except me
there is really only one thing I can say about this video, Respect. you are so open and honest about your life and the choices you make in it. Respect ❤
thank you for your honest words, rachael. nothing bad about being rebellious. I am a christian, but I don´t believe in an interventionist god or in the clergy. always mistrust the extremists, especially the religious ones of all religions. and there especially the organisations, the clergy. I mean christianity started as a religion of the simple people (sermon on the mount). but already caesar konstantin made it state religion 300 yrs after the death of christ. and since then for almost 1500 yrs. it has been used by the ruling, the nobility, the clergy to supress the simple people, to frighten them and to finance them, their palaces and cathedrals and to legitimate themselves. and how many wars had been fought in the name of religion. how many "heretics" and "pagans" have been killed in the name of god? gods will? I doubt that. it was napoleon, who separated church and state in germany, (but the state still collects the church tax from the people here.) and these centuriey as religion of the rulers have impressed the church until nowadays. I do not want to hurt anyones religious feelings. it´s my opinion.
Thank you for sharing your story in such a honest and caring way! I fully identify myself with your experiences and thoughts, and after fighting for forty years with trying to understand how the conservative and fundamentalistic Christian thinking could work for me and help me in my daily living, I finally found the courage to trust myself and only believe what I truly believe. I woke up one morning and said to myself: From now on, I am not dependent on any authority, religion, community or teaching. I have all the powers and truth within myself available for me to enjoy and explore! I cancelled my membership in my Church (Evangelical Lutheran) and immediately felt that my mind became peaceful. My thoughts became silent, I and I felt completely free. It was beautiful! Now, what does God think about my decision? The god created by the selfish and scared human mind, doesn’t understand and doesn’t care. The God that can’t be described with human words, is whispering in my ear: Follow your own path and don’t be afraid.
Your dog is so cute sleeping there. I never became a Christian but I did study the bible and its history for a while and I would say at best it is a collection of books written by people to help us save ourselves from ourselves here on earth. The writers really seemed to understand our nature as humans, including the pitfalls of our nature that people recognize and correct, whether it be through self help books, religions or philosophies to live by.
You are not going to save yourself with a book that has talking donkeys and child sacrifice, slavery and rape and a promise that a dead man will come back to send most people to hell. This is a book of crazy written by desperate people and some that were way on the wrong side of the border to mental illness.
Rachel, you are an intelligent person whose heart is in the right place. Trust yourself. I'm certain that you will make good choices from now on. You don't need any specific religion to live a good life. I'm looking forward to following you on your journey. ❤️
Your calling her intelligent because you agree with what she is saying. The heart is deceitful above all things according to scripture, and it shows, just look at the world. The world says follow the heart.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 While I do agree with Rachel on this, I have commented on her intelligence before, so that’s not why I said that. People don’t have to agree with me for me to recognize their intelligence.
It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine, and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine "In the entire first Christian century Jesus was not mentioned by a single Greek or Roman historian, religion scholar, politician, philosopher or poet. His name never occurs in a single inscription, and it is never found in a single piece of private correspondence. Zero! references." "Jesus Christ Was never Exist " Plz see video... ruclips.net/video/3_TDgTebF_Y/видео.html Bible allow slavery, rape , loot , genocide , terrisom & it is always against the science and morality . Judges 21:10-24 (New Living Translation)NLT- "So the assembly sent 12,000 of their best warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy[a] all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found 400 young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan." ruclips.net/video/0CCkG9C1z_g9/видео.html Bible allow slavery... Exodus 21:20-21 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. "It would be more consistent that we call [the Bible] the work of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." Thomas Paine Exodus 21:7-11 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.(A) 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money. Plz click link to read... www.evilbible.com Chritianity debunked using science & history As per Bible the creation started in 4004 BC at 9 AM on 23rdOctober. Means creation took place nearly 6000 year ago. Bible said earth is flat , sun moving around the , But Galileo said that the earth is round and circles the sun , and the church blinded him , so that he can never look into another telescope. Also punish copernicus . Undermining of science is evil When I think of all the harm the Bible has done, I despair of ever writing anything to equal it’ - Oscar Wilde (1854-1900), Irish author Plz see video.... ruclips.net/video/79UAYyMYk7I/видео.html The Bible is one of the most genocidal books in history. Noam chomsky .3@÷
Then think it. Always think but these people take it to the extreme and stop thinking. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html The odds are NOT there. ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
Arrived at your RUclips channel to watch a video about Texas (travelling from New Zealand to visit later this year, planning it out now ). Then saw this video and watched the whole thing. Thank you for sharing your story, it's raw and honest, and so well communicated too.
You have definitely been on an a fascinating journey, to say the least.I've never been religious, but I don't begrudge anybody for it. I can understand the comfort it may bring and it seemed to be something you needed at the time. Ultimately, let's just be inherently good, kind and considerate and forgive ourselves and each other for the occasional stumble and everything will be alright.
Proud of your decision. I was raised by a catholic father and attended a pentecostal church when I was in California and it was the most oppressive and toxic experience I've ever had. It made me feel like I was living for somebody else.
Relatable was raised catholic and lms lutheran. Went to many christian churches. The non denominationals dont fix he problems of christianity, they just sweep it under a rug
I totally respect your decision. And it takes a lot of inner strength to lay your soul bare, as you have done. First of all, I think people tend to adhere to the religion they were raised with. I too was raised in a Christian family. However, as one ages and has more life experiences, there are challenges to one's faith. Now it is clear to see that religion provides comfort and succor to many, whether you are Christian, Muslin, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, whatever... I became disenchanted with religion in general when I started studying other religions. I recognized a commonality between many of them, that being "there is no path to salvation except through OUR religion." How can that be? Then there is the controlling factor about religion. You obviously have encountered that. So where does one go from there? There comes a time in many people's lives, as it has for you, where you reach the conclusion that a particular religion, or all established religions perhaps, are not for you. They just don't make sense any longer. To me, I still believe God exists...but, I think of God as being the Universe. I know this may sound whack, but it's what I believe. The Universe is alive and conscious. Look at some of the more recent maps of the universe showing how the flows of gravity and other energies. It looks surprisingly like a neural network. I think we came from God, but as a evolution of God's being. I am not convinced God is really caring of individuals, as many religions teach. I think more so that God cares about what happens to us as species, but individuals, not so much. What does that mean? You've already come to the understanding that we are in charge of our own destinies. While religion can lead you to some compassionate people that can help you through tough periods of your life, that compassion is an expression of conditional love, as religion tends to do. Please know that there are compassionate people out there who won't shun you just because you don't think exactly as they do. It is said that "God helps those who help themselves," and I believe this is excellent guidance. For I believe God gave us intelligence and the ability to do things for ourselves. Never let anyone get you down or stand in your way. Good luck on your journey of introspection and growth!
Thank you so much for taking the time to share this! I totally agree with all that you said! And I also started to see the similarities between all of the religions. I believe it's all basically the same. We just use different words to express some truths and of course rituals and practices vary greatly, but at the root of it all I see it's all the same thing. I also see God as the Universe now. Take care. Thanks again
Raymond, it sounds like you're on a good path, but there is often a huge difference between what man teaches in churches, and what the Bible and other texts actually say. The Bible teaches, that Jesus says "the only way to the father, is through me" Man think it means through the physical body of Jesus from Nazareth, or the churches claiming to follow him. However, Jesus said before that "I am the way, the truth and the life", just before he says that. Could it be, that we reach the father through these three things? ("The way" is a complex biblical principle, which I wish I could explain here, but it would be confusing). My point being, there might be many belief systems, but only one universe and one God, and God did not buy the parts for the universe in Walmart.
@@martinklopnof5284 I'm pretty sure you'll just ignore this, but... What you're saying sounds insane to non-believers. You might convince a fellow cult-member to get back into the flock with that, but once people think themselves out of religion by the way of reason, there's really low chance of relapsing. You seem to be happy with your faith anyway so you do you.
@@tommihintsala1201 Thank you for responding, and giving me insight in how it sounds to you. I'm not trying to get someone back in a cult. I was once atheist myself, so I can partly follow you, even though it's been a while. I agree, that for a true atheist, the Bible has very little to offer as far as a moral compass. There are things in there you will like, but also things that will seem cruel or even barbaric. What the Bible can offer an atheist, in my opinion, is mostly of historical and literary qualities. There are some good stories in there, and many classical literary books references the Bible, if they're not actively "stealing" from the Bible. The Bible is not alone in that regard though. Greek mythology etc. is good in that regard also.
@@martinklopnof5284 There's a bunch of sound advice in the bible. It just seems silly to me to believe the underlying story. I don't mind that people do. Whatever makes you happy and doesn't hurt others is fine by me.
Praying for you, Sweet friend! One look around the world will tell you He is coming back soon! “The whole earth groans...” I pray you return to your first Love while there is yet time💕
I identify as christian but agree with SO much of what youre saying! This can only be positive as youre clearly on a path of good intention and self discovery! Sending all the love and good vibes your way! x
Same here....rural Texas and left religion behind. I respect people, their views, and am a good person. I couldn't take the fear anymore (among other things).
You did a very thorough job explaining how you feel. One thing you did Leave put was what do you believe now. So I wanted to respond to what you said at the end about saving yourself. That we have the power to save ourselves. I wanted to ask you “save yourself from what? If you don’t believe in heaven or hell or sin, what is it you’re saving yourself from?” 💁🏻♀️
Its nice weather in Helsinki and this video cheered me up even more. There's no one true religion and if there was, I doubt any deity would be so narcissistic that it would punish us for being curious about reality and existence. Take care!
That isnt true, all religions contradict each other. Islam hates christianity, christianity hates taoism, taoism hates sikhism and sikhism hates buddhism, etc. They all hate each other and profess to be the only true one. Although Judaism and Christianity are hypothetically analogical brothers.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 you cannot use Christianity and hate in the same sentence. I mean what aspect of love your enemies do you pee not like to understand. The Quran commands muslims to execute the unbelievers soo you are correct islam teaches Muslims to hate but what the bible teaches is to love your enemies soo a Christian who hates is not a Christian maybe a Christian in name only. I’m a Christian. I have no one not a single person on earth.
Rare thing this leaving religion. People usually become so dependant on that way of life that only way out is to another church or cult or something like that
If a person switches churches often, it means they care about people, and people sway their spirituality, but true spirituality is defined in Christ and Him alone, not men.
I was Buddhist. Had no idea I was infested with demons. In the name of Jesus I’ve seen visions of demons fleeing me, letting go of me 3 times so far. I am a changed woman. I used to have bouts of anger, no self control? Jealousy pride etc. now I’m practicing righteousness and examining myself if I’m in the faith. The fruit of the spirit Galatians 5:22 I’ve been a believer for about 3 years now. I’m praying against any spirit of confusion, anxiety, depression opposition, any schemes from the enemy in the name of Jesus I bind and break them off my life and yours too 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Sounds a lot like the church I was in for 7 yrs as well. I left though but after leaving, everyone stopped speaking to me and it was also a cult. I’m now no longer Christian after learning on my own and using my own thinking. I was told many times that I didn’t really love god, i back slid, blah blah blah lol I get ya girl. Great vid!
God has not abandoned you...come back to Him there is a prophecy of the great falling away II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work. try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 ) daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
@@YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamr This is circular reasoning at it’s finest. Faith is belief without evidence. There is no empirical evidence of the divine at all. Scientific fields that would find evidence of a so called god has not found any. There is a reason why there’s a high negative correlation between one’s educated status and religiosity. In this case the more educated one is the less religious they are. Because they don’t just chalk it up to “I don’t know therefore magic/God”. Which if you believe in the Bible you do in fact believe in magic. In the past when we attributed things to being “divine” turns out we were ignorant and discovered the real explanation of things and founded whole new scientific fields of study. Also, we don’t need a god to explain the natural world and how things came into existence. Fallacious, philosophical arguments and statements from a said “holy book” written by mere fallible men who got everything wrong on just about very thing is NOT evidence. The Bible states the earth is a snow globe like shape surrounded by water in space. Obviously this is embarrassingly wrong. There are plenty other examples I can go on about on scientific claims that are wrong in the Bible. Along with hundreds of contradictions within the Bible which counteracts the whole point of it being “infallible”. Showing it is no better than any other holy book out there and is in fact flawed. Hitchen’s razor states “What is a asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” Positive claims require positive evidence. And the burden of proof falls upon the one making the positive claim. Therefore, I can refute your positive claim and call out the bluff of your unsupported argument. And I’m not necessarily making a negative claim by doing so. As Aron Ra states “Christians hate the burden of proof more than vampires hate garlic” which I have to whole heartily agree. I would highly recommend you check out Aron Ra’s video titled “what is faith.” Very informative.
I admire your ability 2 not bash Christians. My experience has been that they bash me when I start sharing my message. Your humility is a wonderful part of who U R. I could learn a lot from U. I too, came from an abusive home. It's hard 2 let go of my anger.
In my opinion as a long as you live respecting others, their beliefs and the earth you dont need religion. i do have to admit myself that i still see religion as a war starter and in that context bad but any other way its fine
God didn't start wars man did...God made everything perfect on earth and man made it all fall but God is going to make a new perfect heaven and earth (revelation) II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work. john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 ) daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
Good to hear about your journey. I came out of Christianity when I was about 19. Can't even remember the exact timeline or the order of realizations. I just came to realize there was no evidence for gods and the absurdities including what you listed here kind of closed the deal. Nowadays when I look at religions and any kind of supernatural beliefs from the outside it baffles me how I once believed it all. Including all kinds of self-contradictory things. But I was raised in it and rational thought needs to be learnt, no-one has it nailed down naturally, especially as a child.
Supernatural experiences come from christianity, no other faith gives us more experience than christianity, the least we will see is demons manifest and interactions with demons.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 How would you know, have you practiced every religion and supernatural belief system? Every faith claims similar supernatural events and miracles. Not one has been verified, suggesting they are all in the believers' head. Let's face facts here: there's gods and demons as much as there are leprechauns and pixies - which is to say there aren't. Humanity would do well to grow out of such nonsense.
So much respect! We are all always learning and adjusting.Your reasoning takes courage, and you are spot on. The natural world (universe) is so much more amazing and awe inspiring its not even a contest.
Evolving out of religion, well put. Spirituality is about stepping into our own power and realizing we are all gods and goddesses, and don't need anything external to save us. It's kind of like becoming an adult. When we realize we are all Master creators of our own life, we can also no longer blame anyone or anything external for anything anymore, lol. P.S. You look radiant here! Your natural hair color looks amazing on you 💛💫
We can no longer blame a spiritual deity for our failures, but there's still plenty of other powerful, blameworthy obstacles. For example, government, politicians, lawyers, insurers, and human selfishness and ignorance.
You say a interesting message, but who are proven to be the things you speak of more than christians. Christians are like Christ, Christ is the eternal Son of God. Christianity teaches its people to be Godlike in nature and in (personal, but not divine) attributes. Christianity teaches perfection and the works of God. The christian God rules with His people in His kingdom, eternally. We will be creating with Jesus, united with The Father, and full of the Holy Spirit entirely, and reigning with Jesus, eternally. There is nothing, no faith better than that.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 Your paragraph is so typical, and strangely ironic for a Christian to obsess about. In just one paragraph you appealed to living for eternity (greed for life) three times, creating, reigning, ruling, and living in a "kingdom" four times, and being superior to others once. None of this is to be received until after you die, of course, and that's only if you can get and stay in God's favor during the relative blink of an eye you're here on Earth. Why not just focus on becoming satisfied with what you can achieve for yourself, your loved ones, and the world in THIS life, for its OWN sake, and not for the purpose of advancing to heaven to attain infinitely more quantities of it? Really, if you did all this just out of the goodness of your heart, wouldn't you think God would be even MORE pleased? Finally, do you really think that despite the good you achieved on Earth, God would really banish you to HELL for ETERNITY, just because you didn't practice a few insensible religious rituals while you did it??
Thank you for sharing your story. I can relate to your co-codependency - for me; more with people please. I never grew up very “christian” , I went to a methodist church, my grandparents raised me to serve the community and be loving, compassion, caring. Learning how to say no has been the hardest part for me. I feel like my faith was healthy, i still honor Christ. In my own way. I honor and study all religions and beliefs. but I personally have a relationship with my spirit team and source. It wasn’t too hard for me to walk away from the western christianity theology. I am a very rebellious at heart (im the sweetest i swear lol) but, that has kept me sane and away from a lot of life sucking things on this earth. I love to learn new things and i’m honestly always changing. I love experiencing things, learning history and cultures and enjoying relationships. I believe life is a journey.
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
That's an incredible story!!! I'm from Finland - but you don't know me. In one of your videos, you said, that Finnish people love to see what foreigners think of Finland. I'm one of those guys :) But hey! No joking! That's an incredible story! I have lost my religion, turned to an atheist - so I know how big thing it is. When you are losing your religion, you are reassigning everything in your life. It feels like it's the bravest and most intelligent thing you have ever done - whilst someone kicks you in the middle of your heart.
Agnostic, functionally atheist when it comes to religion and have been since I was a child. My best friend for 20+ years is a hard core Christian. I don't care what you believe as long as you try to be a good person, care for others, and respect other's choices and beliefs. What an amazing world it would be if we could all agree on that outlook.
Religion is a funny thing... Did everyone else choose the wrong one , when they were born in a different region of the planet? Religion is a man made thing. We should believe in universe. We are all stardust.
For me it was far more simple of a reason than this to get out of the whole Christianity trap. I was going to church because at the time I was attracted to that way of thinking. I started hanging out with a Christian band who conducted their own service twice a week. At one of the services I was overcome by emotion because of the preaching of this one guy. I went running down the aisle and went through the whole conversion experience. I then waited for the Holy Ghost as had been promised. And waited. And waited. Weeks turned into months -- it never happened. I asked the minister about this and he said, "You can't go by your feelings on this. Jesus promised he would send the Holy Ghost and you have to trust that he has. Just trust the process." This made no sense to me. The Holy Ghost is the third aspect of God himself. When the Holy Ghost descends into your body you can't not know it's there. The Holy Ghost will absolutely change you completely. There will be no doubt in your mind. You can't be thinking is the Holy Ghost there? maybe that's it ... no no, maybe that. It can't work that way. There was clearly no Holy Ghost inhabiting my body. And there was clearly no Holy Ghost inhabiting anyone else's body either. They were ordinary people experiencing a mental delusion. I realized at that point the whole thing was a scam. That wasn't the only thing, of course. I was also surrounded by idiots who thought perfectly fine people were possessed by demons. These people were obnoxious as hell ... and I finally couldn't stand it any longer. I got tired of listening to their nonsense. That whole process took about 3 months. I was lucky. Some people, however, understand how crazy it all is very early on in the Christianizing process. And there's definitely some people who spend a lifetime trapped and delusional -- it just depends on your mindset and how determined you are to stick with something that is truly insane and is destroying your life as a rational human being. Christianity has had over 1500 yrs to work out the kinks. They now have any answer for any problem you have and any question/doubt that arises in your mind. That's just where we are right now with the major religions of the world. If you can escape it and see through it, then get yourself free. If not, you're just stuck -- whether you realize it or not. And you'll stay stuck until you start to think for yourself.
Pat, I had good and bad experiences with churches. I've stayed out of them for a long time now. That being said, I didn't go braindead and ignore the evidence just because of them. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html The odds are NOT there. ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
At my dad's funeral, the pastor asked me why he never sees me at church anymore. I told him that I was an atheist. He then asked me what made me stop believing in God. I told him that he is asking the wrong person the wrong question. The question he should be asking is how can anyone still believe that stuff, and the person that he should be asking, is himself. I wish I could take that comment back. I didn't have to be so blunt. Now when someone asks me that question, I say that I couldn't find any good reason to believe in any God in the first place.
As a professional theologian there are a lot of con·tra·dic·tions in the bible. Here's just one of many examples. I find a contradiction when Christians say ''You're born a sinner' yet another verse states ''we are fearfully and wonderfully made''??? Men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression Deu. 24:16, 2 Chron. 25:4. Christ? Died for no one: If Jesus died for our sins, what happened to all of the sinners before Jesus came along? Did everyone just end up going to hell? The Bible says no one can take the punishment for someone else’s sin. How did Jesus die to save sinners with this being said? Deuteronomy 24:16 Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin. It's your life. "Don't give permission over to those who don't belong in your head in the first place" What is the condition of the dead? THE BIBLE’S ANSWER: “The living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.” *-Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10. The Grave, simply put, is where humans go when they die; it is a symbolic place or condition where any consciousness or activity ceases. How did the faithful man Job view the Grave? He had lost all his possessions and children in one day, and then he was struck with agonizing boils all over his body. He pleaded with God: “O that in the Grave [“in hell,” Catholic Douay Version] you would conceal me, that you would hide me.” (Job 1:13-19; 2:7; 14:13) Clearly, Job did not understand the Grave to be a fiery hell, a place where his suffering would be even worse. Rather, he thought of it as a place of relief. There is another way to learn about the condition of the dead. We can examine the inspired Scriptural records concerning eight people who returned from the dead.-See the box “ Eight Resurrections Described in the Bible.” Not one of those eight spoke about being in a place of bliss or torment. If the people who were resurrected had gone to such a place when they died, would they not have told people about it? And would this not be included in the inspired Bible record for all to see? In the Scriptures, nothing of the kind is recorded. Those eight people evidently had nothing to say on the subject. Why not? Because they had been unconscious, as if in a deep sleep. In fact, the Bible sometimes uses sleep as an illustration to explain death. For example, faithful David and Stephen both “fell asleep in death.”-Acts 7:60; 13:36. What hope, then, is there for the dead? Can they awaken from this sleep? EIGHT RESURRECTIONS DESCRIBED IN THE BIBLE * A widow’s son The prophet Elijah resurrected the young son of a widow who lived in Zarephath, north of Israel.-1 Kings 17:17-24. A Shunammite boy Elijah’s successor, the prophet Elisha, resurrected a boy in the town of Shunem and restored him to his parents.-2 Kings 4:32-37. A man in a burial place The corpse of a man who had recently died was hastily left in the same burial place where Elisha’s bones lay. When the man’s body touched the prophet’s bones, the man was resurrected.-2 Kings 13:20, 21. The son of the widow of Nain Jesus interrupted a burial procession outside Nain to resurrect a young man and restore him to his grieving mother.-Luke 7:11-15. Jairus’ daughter Jairus, an officer of the synagogue, implored Jesus to help his sick daughter. Jesus resurrected her shortly after she died.-Luke 8:41, 42, 49-56. Lazarus, Jesus’ dear friend Lazarus was dead for four days when Jesus resurrected him before a number of onlookers.-John 11:38-44 Dorcas The apostle Peter resurrected this beloved woman, who was known for her many acts of kindness.-Acts 9:36-42. Eutychus The young man Eutychus died when he fell from a high window; the apostle Paul raised him back to life.-Acts 20:7-12. Eternal torment would violate God’s justice. (Deuteronomy 32:4) When the first man, Adam, sinned, God told him that his punishment would simply be to pass out of existence: “Dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) God would have been lying if he were actually sending Adam to a fiery hell. God does not even contemplate eternal torment. The idea that he would punish people in hellfire is contrary to the Bible’s teaching that “God is love.”-1 John 4:8; Jeremiah 7:31. Death, not torment in a fiery hell, is the penalty for sin. “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”-Romans 6:7.
I used to think I was alone with these thoughts, but I am glad to hear someone else speak about it... I still face a lot of criticisms from family and friends who think I am no longer normal or I am heading for destruction, but I feel this inner peace within me, that I can make choices without the fear of going to heaven or hell... I am Nigerian
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
Heaven and hell is man made and made up internally. Ever notice that everyone’s heaven/hell stories are all different in appearance and what supposedly happen within these realms? It never adds up or has consistency in 99.9% of stories or confessions lol. Nothing more than scare tactics to keep you bound and shackled in fear. Live your life and be the best person you can!
One year later and samee. It's so hard in our religious society but I'm happier overall
@@i_am_adaiah1341 that’s amazing!! I’m glad you’ve found peace. That’s been my experience as well. People really thought I was headed for destruction, but I also found such great inner peace without any fear of heaven or hell. Thanks for sharing
I went from a born again Christian to reluctant agnostic over the span of 14 years. It is extremely difficult. Religious trauma is real. It feels like Christians who try to pull you back in just gaslight you the entire time and they don't even realize it.
Omg I agree!
For sure. I have tons of religious trauma.
Same thing happened to me recently and now I’m agnostic to. It’s weird because today I tried having a conversation with God and was like oh wait I no longer believe in God. It’s so strange living without Him. I’ll never set foot in any church ever again. No one in the church even reached out to me when I went through my break up with the elder. I did get a job today though the only thing I kept telling myself is “to show up and do the next best thing.” Glennon Doyl
I'm certain most of these strangers throwing Bible passages and various Christian slogans are just trying to convince themselves. The chances a former Christian hasn't heard them before is slim. They must know this by now.
"You were never a Christian" is the most telling. It scares them to think it's even possible to lose faith.
It doesnt matter if others are dissappointed. What matters is your journey.
@leo lou : yes - you all are very good in repeating stuff out of your bible and dogma - most ppl. don´t want to buy that bs anymore.
Never apologize for the path you’re on. You’re causing no harm to anyone and those who chose to leave your channel...it’s their loss. You will never make everyone happy ❤️
so true! Thank you for your encouragement and support!
Agreed. Well actually she is causing harm to weak minded christians. It does seem genuine with the things she struggled with as a believer, i struggled with these same things at one point.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 I think a lot of us have. It’s not easy to have faith in something that isn’t tangible. Some people twist and turn the Bible so much, it’s ends up looking nothing like what it started out as.
Bible has been twisted, turned and - to put it bluntly - counterfeited during centuries for political and financial goals so that the original message can be said to be lost. Besides, one can believe God without even belonging to any church/congregation.
Who is Jesus Christ to you, Ruth?
I'm a believer but I don't go to church anymore.. I just don't like the churches and the way of thinking and doing things in them... I believe in God and I believe that God is love and kind and warm
Just like my brother, if you hate church you will hate heaven, because that what it is. Church. Think about everything that happens in a church, these things happen in heaven.
Thanks for sharing ❤️🥰 hugs from Texas thank
@* Pinkusamurai *
Hey, this is a lot how I feel, and there's others too! Just know, you are not alone.
You basically just made up your own version of God regardless of what the Bible says.
@@truman5838 If you are going to make a statement like that, add at least one quote to back up your claim...
It's not like Jesus was very appriciated in synagoges or among church leadership? Not all of them were like that, but...
It's written (in bible), that there's only one middleman, and that's Jesus Christ.
SCREAMING FRON THE ROOFTOPS right now. All of this!!!!!!!!! So much love for you for the courage to post this. My story is so similar!
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Why wouldn’t Jesus sacrifice simply fix everything for everyone without all the other strings attached? None of us had to subscribe to Adam & Eve to become “sinners” so why isn’t Jesus’ sacrifice just automatic as well?
Answer: Because people (clergy) couldn’t attain control over us with fear and also couldn’t make money off of us either.
I believe in being respectful towards all humans and nature. This includes respecting other beliefs. That’s my religion.
But other people beliefs lead people to hell. To deny Jesus is denying the only way to salvation.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 Well, that’s just nonsense.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 nope The only way is Islam
I don't think bad ideas merit respect.
@@adamplentl5588 Define bad idea.
It is really awesome to hear someone else put into words what I also have experienced. I deconverted after being in Christianity for 30 years. Like you, I was fully into it, repent or perish painted on the back of my car. While my home life was a mess. I started asking questions early only to be dismissed so just went with the flow. I am glad I continued to research for myself and have now come to peace without fear. I appreciate your honesty in telling your story.
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363All written by people.
Inspired of god
You're courageous to have broken free from the prison of fear-based teachings.
Following the truth that you understand and not what is borrowed from others is
real spirituality. Few have the courage to do that. All the best to you.
Are you not "following what is borrowed from others", in your de-construction, or apostasy? Sounds an awfully lot like that's exactly what you are doing. Grow a spine or whatever other part you need and find the understanding you lost, along with your soul, which cannot be redeemed at judgement day. It's WORK being a Christian. Not for the childish, lazy or feint-of-heart.
I've been wanting to make this same kind of video or at least a social media post about how I am no longer a Christian. I thank you for your courage and inspiration!
It’s intimidating but so liberating on the other side of it. You got this!!
Do it! I'm about to do mine in the coming weeks.
The Atheist Community of Discord has a channel dedicated to deconversions. A lot more of them are needed.
Who is Jesus Christ to you?
@@Psalms-fr8yy Same person he is to modern Jews. He was a Jewish apocalyptic rabbi calling for reforms whose character was exaggerated and worshipped by his early followers. To this day he would probably be unknown if it weren’t for the apostle Paul’s additional promotion of Jesus.
That was very cogent, great job for first time laying that all out! I complete relate. Thank you for sharing.
I left religion almost a decade ago now, but I brings me joy hearing others share their journey. Thanks for posting this, and I hope you're doing well in life.
Like most finns, I've never really been that religious person myself and after actually reading the whole bible through at quite young age it instantly became pretty obvious that the book is created and written by people to control other people. So I left the church 17 years ago and haven't had any regrets ever since. The thing that everyone should realize is that you can be a perfectly good person without religion. If you can't determine right from wrong then you lack empathy, not religion. Congrats for opening your mind and the best decision of your life. :)
You’re absolutely right!
@@annmarie6870 ❤️
True❣
You are clearly wrong and yet you said you can determine it yourself. You said you read the bible and saw people just wrote it to control. So in the very first verse about God creating, how did people make that up? Show your evidence that it was made up and that we got creation by natural means, not supernaturally by God. Then throw in life, etc, you are rather stuck but you still pretend you know what's right, then show it
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
So if you want to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation really happened by natural means. Also, throw in how we got the laws of nature, naturally.
Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html
The odds are NOT there.
ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
Also check out The Holy Quran. it's the missing link for our health & happiness. It's the only book where yhwh himself speaks directly. Thus it's the manual of use of the human machine. It's no joke. It's pretty potent because it contains mathematical paterns beyond human ability & references to modern human scientific knowledge(link in my channel's infos section). Prophet Muhammad was the prophet of Deut18:18 , John1:21 & John16:13 who led us to all the truth. Blessings 😉💗
Thank you so much for sharing. I have been in the process of deconstructing my Christian faith over the past year and a half and it’s been so confusing and painful yet freeing. I agree so much with you in that I have felt a lot of peace when I walked away and started unraveling the beliefs I had held as true for so long.
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
I actually really enjoyed this. I think I agree with a lot, and then there are other things that you made me think about in a new way. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing! And for watching ❤️
Man, making a video like this takes some serious bravery. *Bows in respect*.
Sorry to hear about the toughest times. I hope things are better, much, much better now. You deserve it :)
You think that leaving Jesus Christ will make her better?
Yes, "serious bravery"....all the way to Hell. What a heroic epitaph.
Thank you for this vlogg. It has helped me a lot as I'm a 59yr old dude from Northern Ireland. I've been a Christian since 1987 but over the last year I've had all the doubts & questions that you articulated so well. You have encouraged me to be honest with myself & to own up to how I really feel about it all. I'd love to hear more about how long it took you to find the inner peace once you decided to walk away & what you now believe. Thank you again. I hope you have found true joy & peace in your life.
Thank you for sharing! I can answer this in an upcoming Q&A around this this topic. Much love to you in Ireland ❤️
I became a Christian thirty years ago after having a very bad child hood I can honestly say that he has looked after me from the word go may be you will see things different when you are older he can do what he likes because he is god
Crazy that you said you were 30 in 2007, I thought you were 30 now! I'm just at the beginning of my journey of deconstructing my Christian faith. I feel like actual Scripture has a bit more ambiguous description of hell and bits that actually hint that hell is not eternal. I'm hoping this is true because SO much of me wants to keep my faith but you've inspired me to not be AFRAID of questioning. Thank you.
Well put! Honest questioning is the route to, if not wisdom, at least truth. I was about 19 when I started having those thoughts and honestly I was an atheist in a month or so (not that I could call myself one for a while). It'd been a process from before, but once I realised I had no good reasons to believe the things I believed were ACTUALLY true, it kind of fell apart from there. I recognised the need and wanting to believe the religious things and just realised it didn't really matter what I wanted to believe. What mattered was was it actually true. I'm still open to any and all gods and religions, but I can't take such things on faith, I need evidence. Good luck on your journey, and never be afraid to question. :)
Being somewhere forever would be hell no matter what. Heaven sounds like hell to me. When I expire, I don't want to go anywhere. I was nowhere before I was born and I'm totally confident I won't be anywhere when I die.
Edit: Actually I think it's entirely possible that when I die, it turns out that my whole life was a simulation and in the real world, only a few days had passed.
I hope you've kept your faith....I'm answering to your year-old response. Too many people reject their belief, because it doesn't add up to what they think is correct, and place a judgement upon the Creator for not being as sensible or as smart or as wise as they are. Our understanding of God cannot be found in the Absolute Self. An imperfect being needs a perfect Source.
I gave up being a Christianity a Long time ago. I became an Atheist in 1989, in 1994 I became an Agnostic, in 2005 I became a Pagan. Worshipper of S-U-N, Cats and Women. I believe in the ban of Long Skirts and Long Dresses. I am in favor of Mini-Skirts,Short Dresses, Last Not least Daisy Duke Shorts. I don't conform to Conservatives especially Jim Duggar and his "family" which is a cult in disguise.
Thank you so much for sharing this… I resonate so much with your story, and I think I’ve also just realized I’ve been so afraid to leave the Christian faith, because I grew up as a pastors kid… I’ve been afraid that my sense of belonging would be shattered, but I actually feel so free
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
Your story almost sounds identical to mine. I was caught up in a cult like church during a lonely sad time in my life. I poured myself into it, travelled North America preaching. But in other areas of my life it was lacking. After 20 years I detached, unfortunately my wife and I separated, and I’m somewhere in the mid stages of deconstruction. Thank you for sharing this as it made me realize I’m not the only other crazy one out there in a similar situation with similar thoughts.
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
I have always had this dilemma in my head. If God is so loving and forgiving, why is the believing so important? Let's say that I would have lived all my life trying to be good but not believing there would be anything after, and after death I would be at the gates of heaven, and denied to get to heaven just to because not believing.
I think there can be God, or not, but all this religion and writings are made by man because of politics. Just do as we say, and feel guilty anyway, pray for forgiveness, and be quiet. That is a perfect situation for those in power.
Very good perspective. Thanks for sharing
Your being a hypocrite, would you like it if someone believed in you, but didnt show any works. What if someone said to you, i love you often, but disregarded everything you said and cheated on you all the time, and never did anything for you. Would you accept that.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 I often wonder, aren't those who live their lives being good and honest without the fear of God actually even more suitable to get to heaven, because they just chose to be good without any strings attached?
Your perspective is wise, deep but incorrect. On the one hand there are your good works / moral deeds which is what you are referring to.
On the other hand their is sin which is breaking Gods law. For example though shall not lie. If you lie once that makes you a liar for all eternity.
So you see you are comparing two entirely different things.
God did not die on the cross for good works. God died on the cross for the sins your sins.
Before Jesus died on that cross you could be sorry, you could repent a million times if you died - that one lie will still land you in hell for eternity.
Do you see our situation.
2000 years ago was the first time humans with zero sins started walking the face of the earth. Because for the first time they were able to repent and also throw all their sins into Jesus Christ. And then continue to live Holy and everytime they made a mistake they repent again and call upon the blood.
A human that dies without v sin is a child of God heading for heaven.
A human that dies with one or more sins is a child of satan when he dies he goes to be with his father on hell.
So please don’t mix things up.
If Hitler on his death bed realises his error repent genuinely and throws his sins in Jesus even He will make it to heaven.
Your good works do count for something though. They determine your reward in heaven however to get into heaven to see those rewards you have to be Holy without a single spot of sin on your soul. The only way to achieve that is Jesus Christ.
Hope this blesses you.
There is clear explanation about your life journey in Bhagavadgita 🙏🙏
It is difficult to think back and speak on stuff like this. Congratulations on doing it!
My mom is 'very Christian' and continuously tells my siblings and me that we are not good enough, that we should pray and go to church etc. She knows a whole lot of prayers by heart, even in foreign languages and I must say that she is very serious about that. Some people go to church and are very fake. She is not like that at all. She is 'worried about our souls'.
However, I feel God when I'm nature or when I can help someone when I work or by saying or doing something. I really avoid prayers where the blood of Jesus and other similar words are used. They depress me, but my mom uses them because they are considered important in special prayers. I just feel that is not my world.
Many years ago I had a special experience during which I had mystical visions for some days. I felt God's love very strongly inside me. It was like sunlight. I had problems with my father at the time. 'I heard' God's voice telling me 'I'm also your father and I love you as you are'. Those special days changed my view about God and my life completely.
I'm 100% sure that there are negative forces and they often influence our thoughts without us noticing. We should be aware of that and shouldn't always believe our thoughts. Some people follow their negative thoughts without being aware of those negative energies. All in all, I believe there are many reasons for people to act as they do (in a negative or positive way) and so I think nobody has the right to judge them except for God but I can't believe that souls remain in hell eternally. I believe God's power is the strongest and it can heal anything if it's necessary. Sometimes we must suffer to understand some lessons, but not eternally, in my view :D!.
Great perspective. Love this! Thanks for taking the time to share ❤️
@@WildwoodVagabond Thank you!
I loved your heartfelt and logical breakdown of why Christianity has major problems. I have also deconstructed my faith, or rather am doing it constantly.
The way you have deconstructed Christianity reminds me a lot of my own journey and where I have ended up in my spirituality. At some point I felt like I was spiritually dying because I was thinking about things logically and letting go of almost everything in my Christian faith. It was at that point I had to build any spiritual beliefs on love and the consciousness within myself. Everything contains this consciousness and therefore we are all United. Because this is not a physical force, We are more than this body.
@Lori G i agree I also left religion alone. ruclips.net/video/M-2rffXnBdM/видео.html
You are so freaking brave and strong to open to people like this. I have been on the journey of this channel for pretty long and still loving this more and more. Love and hugs Rachel. Lumilapio Everyone!
Thanks fro your love and encouragement! Lumilapio
I just found your channel today, a Finnish spiritual outlaw who also has experienced shunning, sending love and blessings to you!
I'm glad more people are starting to question these now, the world is finally opening up and I think you're doing great, be strong and keep pushing forward :)
The world should speak up but not go braindead at the same time.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html
The odds are NOT there.
ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
Don't apologise. I'm proud of you for evolving.
I just can't watch this right to the end because I've got my own sh1t going on right now.
You're a wonderful speaker though.
It feels amazing
"evolving" hahahaha Yeah, regressing is more like it.
I've seen it often where people get hurt at church, or in life, or whatever, then all of a sudden God does not exist because of it. I don't go to any churches anymore and haven't for a long time but that being said, I didn't go braindead because of it.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html
The odds are NOT there.
ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
I'm an atheist. I believe one can believe what ever the heck he/she chooses. So, go with your feelings. More power to you.
So yeah, party on...doesn't make you right, either. No atheists in foxholes is really true. Facing your end of life, will probably show more prayers going up, than from Billy Graham. Care to bet?
Your explanation of trying to do Gods will while doubting your own will was really where things fell apart for me. I began to see anything I wanted for my life as being selfish or wrong. It was impossible to know his will and wrong to follow my own. I had given my heart to the church I was going to. I just could not live a holy life. Anyway I left not that long ago. It's really difficult because the beliefs about who we are still linger. My pastor taught me that we are nothing that we are dead in our sin without Jesus. Why an awful thing to tell people. Especially to those struggling with issues of self worth.
Exactly I 100% agree like there are already people suffering from mental health issues and for them to go up to them and have the audacity to say something like that. It’s derogatory and condescending. It’s disgusting. And the whole idea of a baby being born in sin. Wtf??! What did that baby ever do? It just came out of the womb? Why did God create that baby if it’s on sin?? It makes absolutely 0 sense
without jesus we are nothing its biblical because christ is the only that save from sin
Agreed David. For a young person, without adult perspective and already struggling with low self esteem, that can be very confusing.
Self worth and personal accountabiliy. Two things lacking in christianity
@@maxymeparentboyer1261Man, that cult has really got you snowballed.
Thanks so much for taking the time and using great care in sharing your story, Rachel. As I sort out my own faith and pastor/church ( or not) and also my marital situation, podcasts like this one will be very helpful. I hope that you will continue to share what you have gone through and have learned.
I know it’s unrelated but your hair is soo beautiful!🖤
That striked me to. I love when younger women have greyish hair. I dont know what it is but I find it so beautiful.
Thanks so much for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and started studying the New Covenant on my own. See in the beginning I was sold out on the unconditional love and safety in the Saviour. Although having good intentions, when churches preach law it becomes a whole legalistic religious organization that robs us of our true identity and freedom that we are supposed to have.
What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the original Gospel says "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness/(okayness) as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel says "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven for ever". Religion says "You have to work to get close to God" the Gospel says "You cant get closer to your Father as He is in you and you are in Him". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace says "Dad loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE in this irreversibly restored relationship". Religion says "You are not good enough" and the true Gospel of Grace says "You are fully accepted, with a new heart which is righteous, holy and blameless. That's your identity, now live from your heart and be yourself". Religion is a bunch of rules to follow as a prerequisite to acceptance versus the Gospel of Grace providing immediate irreversible acceptance which will produce the "works"/performance over time, but our performance is SECONDARY to the "Work Christ did". This reveals a bit of what I found please see this link for more: ruclips.net/video/RHxbZEwbhHg/видео.html
This is 8 years later, in the mean-time I started a small bible study group where everyone is on the same level and unconditionally accepted, where their opinion is valid and important.
God's love.
Thank you for sharing your story. I know it's not easy.
Thanks for sharing your story and being honest about where you are now in regards to faith and God/Jesus. I myself am going through a similar journey and I totally related to everything you said and I agree with your realizations. It is a long road to de-program and personally it’s been painful. It confirms my decision when I hear similar stories like yours ❤️
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
Never apologize for searching for the truth and wanting truth in your life and trying to find a way to walk through this world.
I honestly think that Jesus would despise most modern churches. Christianity has bastardized many of Jesus' teachings which were actually good. He would not have wanted to form a personality cult around himself.
I agree!
Jesus drove away the money-changers from the temple. In USA and many other places religion is abt money and power. My understanding is that JC would not approve that. Many religions are dens of thieves.
I could agree this comment a lot. Rachel, you mix in this video your bad experience about church to truth about God. I have changed the church many times and at the time when I was far from God and biblical lifestyle, I still could not deny the truth about God as a Creator and the historical truth about salvation. I just thought that it is not for me or that I want to make my own path.
And I see in your speak a lot of that you want to control your own life.
Other thing is your understanding about other religions, I believe the idea or word Paul mentioned in letters that people who don't know the word may do want the word commands by nature because of the law in the heart. And hindu religion has more "churches" than in Christianity. So that's not true 😊👍
But I keep praying for you. And I respect your choice now because I genuinely believe you're a really smart person so you will question your choices now and also your nowadays choices in the future 😉❤
Hello! My name is Jocelynn. I have no idea why I found your video but God knows and I don't believe it's an accident that I saw it. :) I realized I had had similar questions and thoughts and such that you have had, and so I just wanted to share if it's helpful. Also just want to say I'm really sorry that was your experience with christianity, wow that "church" sounds honestly so awful, good for you for getting out of there! That they shunned and shamed you is awful, and really speaks to what kinda spirit they may have been operating in, certainly doesn't feel like the spirit of the Lord. From what you described that was not Christianity at all. It honestly breaks my heart to hear this, that is so not okay or loving or kind.
You're also totally right that giving someone an ultimatum is not a relationship at all! One thing that really helped me understand this notion of heaven and hell more is that, hell isn't a specific place God sends us to punish us for not choosing him because he's mad or gets joy in us suffering, it's more that he lets us choose and honours our choice and if our choice is to not be in relationship with God, we then we are going to be in a place or space void of anything that is loving, beautiful, peaceful, just, etc, not because God is punishing us by taking them away, but because without His presence, all those things are not there, because those things are God, those are the qualities of God, they are who He is, his essential nature so if we don't want to be in relationship with Him we would not be around those things, you know? And I know that it pains God if that is what we choose because of course like any (healthy) father, he wants to be in relationship with his children, but, he still lets us make that choice ultimately. Ezikiel 18:23 speaks about how God doesn't take pleasure in the death of the wicked. I think this is where a lot of folks kinda went wrong when they chose to focus on the "fire and brimstone" aspects to encourage people to Christ, because that isn't even biblical IMO, nor is it encouraging! And what kind of relationships lasts if it was initiated on some level through fear? It's not going to be sustainable you know? I feel like this is what you're getting at (though I could be wrong). So it makes me sad when people are preaching the fear stuff and such because it's just not really showcasing reality. It's God's kindness that leads us to repentance (Romans 2:4) you know? Not fear. That was one thing I stated firmly when I was in the new-age but people were talking to me about the Bible and Jesus etc. I was initially very skeptical but eventually said I might be willing to look into Christianity, but if I believe in God it will NOT be because I am worried about going to hell, nor will it be because I'm just using it as a crutch.
Regarding worshipping him and such, I really used to wonder a bit about that too - I talk about it in one of my videos I believe, I think my very first one, but about how sometimes the worldly understandings make it seem like is God just some narcissist? But then I realized, God is the creator of everything, and incredibly Holy, and he created us to be able to worship him because he knew that that would be what makes us most complete, given that he represents EVERYTHING, you know? So it wasn't for his purposes because he was like "muhaha I want everyone to bow down to me, I am a ruler and controller" (as the world sometimes depicts him) but because he wanted us to feel complete, and he knows that we wouldn't be unless we knew our creator intimately, he knows that that is how we will achieve greatest fulfillment, by being connected to and praising the source of it all. And of course though, he still does give us the choice to turn away from him.
The greatest difference between all other religions and Christianity I've come to realize is that all others are based on works - if you do this stuff, you might be reconciled to God, if you are perfect you might reach enlightenment etc. With Christianity, it's already done, Jesus paid the price and it is finished. I used to believe that each religion had aspects of truth and there was some then, "ultimate truth" that I was trying to find. But then I realized through experiences and life and God helped show me of course through his word, that that was just a deception. The enemy is always wanting us to think that we can always uncover more. It was part of the original sin right, satan was like....oo God just didn't want you to experience everything, so you should eat of this apple so you can know for yourself! ....it's classic enemy deception.
I don't really see it as an inherent issue that "only one is right", because presumable one has to be? We can't both have one true God, and many gods, you know? It's like one of these ways has to be right. Because the existence of one, means the other wouldn't exist. I realize within the world of relativism, there is this notion that everything can be right, but objective and subjective truths get mixed up in that. Subjectively it can be the case, as in, I might think that yellow is the BEST colour, and you might think no, it's orange, well, we can both be right, because there is no ultimate truth on that, orange is true for you and your experiences, yellow is true for me and my experience.... but for objective truths, there is only one right answer. Eg for things like who created us? What happens when you die? Or something a little less of a big question, like gravity - I can't be like, that's great you believe in gravity, I choose not to! Well, the truth is it's still there, it still exists. You know?
I'm getting into some deeper stuff now and don't want to make this a novel though apparently it already is lol, but anyway I just wanted to encourage you because you are asking great questions and God loves an inquisitive mind and He welcomes questions and I'm sorry if anyone ever told you that your questions were not allowed because it's so important that we truly wrestle with and understand what we believe and why. And I'm sorry if anyone ever made you feel like your thoughts didn't matter. When you spoke of going to that guy and you'd ask him your questions then he'd twist it all and make you believe what he said and you'd be like OH ya and then doubt yourself, but then realize wait a minute! That just makes me so mad and sad because man that is so bad and not at all what Jesus was preaching nor the character of God. (cont'd....)
cont'd - There are definitely many ways to be deceived out in the world for sure, and you and I kind of share opposite stories in a way in that I rejected Christianity for most of my life and was in the new-age and now am born-again, and yet I see similarities in the ways our minds work and the types of things that got us thinking. My heart now is to just dispel the lies of the world that keep people from engaging with the true heart of Christ.
When you spoke about the heart being deceitful I just want to say that God also gives us a mind, it's not that we cannot trust ourselves at all, he still wants us to think and is with us in helping us! Also, I realized that I had believed this lie and I thought why does God only want me if he sees Jesus, like people would talk about how God sees me and he sees Jesus so he doesn't see sin. It would make me so sad because I thought, man - God doesn't like me, he just wants to see his son a bunch of times. But then I had this massive moment of realization where someone spoke truth over me and said that the only thing Jesus is washing away is the sin, the sin that wasn't even me or my essence to begin with. The real me, is under all that and it's actually who God created me to be, unique and special in God's eyes. I don't know if that is helpful but I hope so :)
To the denominations and unity piece, I'm not sure if you ever looked into this or if anyone was able to support you in those questions, as they are valid! I just wanted to share in case no-one pointed this out, there is a difference between beliefs that tie to salvation - essentials of the faith, and then doctrine, i.e. non salvation related beliefs (eg how do we want to worship? Sing old songs, new songs, sing for a long time, improv it etc.). The many denominations relate to doctrinal differences but have the same core message of salvation - that Jesus died for our sins on the cross and made a way for us to be in relationship with God - definitely the split is a human thing but it doesn't necessarily impact the word of God - if that makes sense. You clearly have a heart for unity and that's so beautiful. Maybe you're being called to help reconcile some of that dis-unity within the church (which truly, in our world today does exist everywhere, not just within this area) but I pray that the disunity doesn't lead people astray because people mess up all the time and so we can't let humans define Christianity and Gods word for us.
I just want to share too - your heart still matters to God, everything about it and anything you're feeling, it matters to him. He doesn't want you just ignoring it, and blindly following his will, it's just helpful to share with him and talk with the Lord. I think it can be hard because we might see God in a skewed way especially if we didn't have healthy parents (I didn't, so it was so foreign to me at first), so we can sometimes think of God as controlling and wanting us to follow his ways even if it's not what we want, but I have found that what He wants for my life is far better than anything I could have even imagined. If someone knows you best and knows what will support you best now and in the long run, would you want that support? And, it isn't always easy because life is hard, and Jesus never promised that we wouldn't have suffering, in fact he said we will face trials, but he assure us that he has overcome the world and he promised that he'd be with us to the ends of the age (John 16:33).
The desires of your heart matter to God and he knows your deepest most greatest hearts desires.
Anyway, honestly I respect you and feel your heart in this video very strongly. I feel God wants you to know how much you are loved and that those people you experienced, were falsely representing him, and that isn't His heart for you. You're his sweet child and he loves you very much and has never stopped loving you.
:) If you read this far, thank-you! And if you genuinely want to chat or have questions about what I may mean, feel free to email me (I wish there was a DM feature on here but I can send you my email if you want to chat more! :)) All the best to you.
Hi Jocelyn, I didn't read past worshipping, but I want to comment about "hell" being away from God.... That's also a constructed term.. God is always with us, God was with me before I was a Christian, and now that I don't longer Believe this way, he still with me. I don't feel any hell, or sadness or out of His protection at all. Isn't that amazing ❤️❤️❤️
An honest, insightful and brave video. I've gone through the same kind of processes and can relate to a lot of what you said. For me it was the so called Toronto Blessing that came to Finland and some even crazier stuff after that when I started to realize something is wrong. Not an easy subject to open up. So big respect to you! Happy to find your channel!
When I die, I want my story to end.
im always glad to hear about anyone getting away from dogma and living life to its fullest good for u! I've been a nonbeliever 3 years now and man am I grateful n feel lucky! it took letting go of belief in God to get clean and it just keeps getting btr!
One of my biggest problems with God was that why the hell does he have to be so cryptic? Just say what you want and i will do it. But nope.. we have to interpret dozen times translated book for clues. WTF is that?
Hahaha yesssss I feel this too
Basically we have a hard time getting it, so the Bible and other inspired texts are iterating the truth again and again.
With the Bible, some translations garble up the meaning of the original text, to the point where only confusion is left.
Hi Rach, and love from Oulu, Finland
Love your videos ❤
Most people have heard “Jesus/God loves you”. Does that mean they have a relationship with God and will go to heaven? Depends on the individual. A relationship is 2 sided, you receive love and you give love back. God showed His love by suffering, dying on the cross and rising from the dead for you, now you show Love back by repenting of your sins (lying, stealing, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) and believing in Jesus as your Lord and saviour so that Heaven is in your future not hell
Dog slept through the whole thing. Chill.
This comment aged like fine wine
I'm a christian, struggling with being gay, self-harm and other things.. This video actually helps me a little bit. So much to think about ;) Thanks.
I’m so glad to hear! Christianity’s view on homosexuality is actually another one of the problems I had with it. It seemed so polarizing. For example, at first they would love bomb people then after a while if someone didn’t conform and “repent” from being gay then they would be kicked out of the church or looked down upon. That really broke my heart because I understand what it feels like to be misunderstood and be judged for a part of yourself that you can’t (and shouldn’t) change. I realize the whole of christianity isn’t this extreme towards gay people but the church in general seems to be. I wish you all the best and please know that you are loved so much and you should never have to change or suppress who you are for anyone or anything.
@@WildwoodVagabond That's so sweet, thank you! I have to lose a lot to find myself, I guess ;) I'm just scared that I'm making the wrong decisions ;) But I'm also making new friends. Your story helps other people, thanks for sharing!
@@WildwoodVagabond Same with trans people. Idk why theists often take the "identity comes from God" approach instead of claiming dysphoria and motivation to transition is part of God's plan lol
AH, who is Jesus Christ to you?
@@Psalms-fr8yy SHUT UP and leave him alone you toxic ingrate. AH...THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU. Study and learn and you’ll come to see it for yourself. I hope yoi break free of these chains that bind you.
Hello Rachel....this is the 2nd video I have watched of Yours....and I am very impressed by You....for WHAT COMES THROUGH is Your SPIRITUAL-ness....and Your expression is Timeless....just listening to Your Expression is Very Healthy & Healing. THANK YOU for being Genuine and BEING HERE. I am Mark and I grew up in the Bible Belt (the Ozarks of Sothern Missouri ) And I dont know how You side-stepped the the Superficialdom of Our "modern American culture" wherein You didnt allow Your TRUE SELF to be compromised. You are a Rare Soul....and I hope that whoever is with You....TREASURES YOUR COMPANIONSHIP (and I am only a minute into this 2nd video of Yours....but I had to acknowledge the Gift of Your Presence and Your Expression...THANK YOU
This was a brave video from a Texan. I'm religionless like many people here in Finland are as you know. That doesn't prevent me to live with "christian values" like being nice to other people, respecting life etc etc. even I don't believe in any higher power like God.
Thanks for sharing! It’s good to hear from you
Yea, we really don't need saving in here Finland. Maybe in the USA is a better to place to try to turn people into real Christian because there is a lot of those who say that they go with Bibble but their actions say other.
Is it possible to be like christ but not be christian, i do not think so. How do you respond to people that hate you?
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 i couldn't care less if someone hates me (and I'm sure many do). Its their problem, not mine. I just ignore.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 If Christian hates me then let him/her hate me because he/she then goes in their own mind to hell because the bible says: Love eachotter! So problem solved. In my case, I don't think that someone hates me because I do not go to church or use the cross to expel demons or even not use our country flag as underwear, some people hate someone because some other reasons (usually because their family has said that you must hate that color or some outsider) and as oh2mmy say: It's their problem, not my...
With religions one has to see the forest from the trees. They have life wisdoms covered in stories one shouldn't take literally. The wisdoms themselves can have profound truth to them though. For instance, it's important to have belief, hope and love in one's life whether or not you believe in God. Different cultures have created their own religions so they work the best where they are from. Western societies are based on Christianity even though most people are secular.
So true and well said. Thanks for sharing
"With religions one has to see the forest from the trees. They have life wisdoms covered in stories one shouldn't take literally." This is very well said. I may have to quote this in the future.
The bible was literal but now its mainly symbolic.
God has not abandoned you...come back to Him
there is a prophecy of the great falling away II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ
like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc
he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case
john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late
we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 )
daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
I needed to hear this so much. This past year I’ve been going through something very similar. And it’s SO hard and emotional. Thank you!!!
It is difficult but so worth it. I commend you for your courage. It definitely takes courage to allow yourself to ask questions. Keep up the good work. Sending you so much love ❤️☺️
4 months ago I thought I was happy then the break up happened and went from Christianity to agnostic so quickly. I just can’t do it anymore. It’s very very hard! I’d like to hear other peoples stories
@@annmarie6870 Unfortunately, many churches do harm. That does not mean God had something to do with it. I don't go to churches anymore but I don't blame God for what silly people do in the name of God.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html
The odds are NOT there.
ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
Lost my identity..
Great video as always, I’m an ex chrisitan now atheist as of 5 months ago, never been happier than before. Weight off my shoulders. I bow to no one except me
there is really only one thing I can say about this video, Respect. you are so open and honest about your life and the choices you make in it. Respect ❤
I do not respect her choice, because it a bad one.
Thank you ❤️
thank you for your honest words, rachael. nothing bad about being rebellious. I am a christian, but I don´t believe in an interventionist god or in the clergy. always mistrust the extremists, especially the religious ones of all religions. and there especially the organisations, the clergy. I mean christianity started as a religion of the simple people (sermon on the mount). but already caesar konstantin made it state religion 300 yrs after the death of christ. and since then for almost 1500 yrs. it has been used by the ruling, the nobility, the clergy to supress the simple people, to frighten them and to finance them, their palaces and cathedrals and to legitimate themselves. and how many wars had been fought in the name of religion. how many "heretics" and "pagans" have been killed in the name of god? gods will? I doubt that. it was napoleon, who separated church and state in germany, (but the state still collects the church tax from the people here.) and these centuriey as religion of the rulers have impressed the church until nowadays. I do not want to hurt anyones religious feelings. it´s my opinion.
Thank you for taking the time to share this. It’s good to hear from you!
You have to put faith in people too. If you go rogue it will leave you desolate, eventually.
Thank you for sharing your story in such a honest and caring way! I fully identify myself with your experiences and thoughts, and after fighting for forty years with trying to understand how the conservative and fundamentalistic Christian thinking could work for me and help me in my daily living, I finally found the courage to trust myself and only believe what I truly believe. I woke up one morning and said to myself: From now on, I am not dependent on any authority, religion, community or teaching. I have all the powers and truth within myself available for me to enjoy and explore! I cancelled my membership in my Church (Evangelical Lutheran) and immediately felt that my mind became peaceful. My thoughts became silent, I and I felt completely free. It was beautiful! Now, what does God think about my decision? The god created by the selfish and scared human mind, doesn’t understand and doesn’t care. The God that can’t be described with human words, is whispering in my ear: Follow your own path and don’t be afraid.
Your dog is so cute sleeping there. I never became a Christian but I did study the bible and its history for a while and I would say at best it is a collection of books written by people to help us save ourselves from ourselves here on earth. The writers really seemed to understand our nature as humans, including the pitfalls of our nature that people recognize and correct, whether it be through self help books, religions or philosophies to live by.
You are not going to save yourself with a book that has talking donkeys and child sacrifice, slavery and rape and a promise that a dead man will come back to send most people to hell. This is a book of crazy written by desperate people and some that were way on the wrong side of the border to mental illness.
Rachel, you are an intelligent person whose heart is in the right place. Trust yourself. I'm certain that you will make good choices from now on. You don't need any specific religion to live a good life. I'm looking forward to following you on your journey. ❤️
Your calling her intelligent because you agree with what she is saying. The heart is deceitful above all things according to scripture, and it shows, just look at the world. The world says follow the heart.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 While I do agree with Rachel on this, I have commented on her intelligence before, so that’s not why I said that. People don’t have to agree with me for me to recognize their intelligence.
Thank you Charlie for your love and support! Much love to you
It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine, and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man.
Thomas Paine
"In the entire first Christian century Jesus was not mentioned by a single Greek or Roman historian, religion scholar, politician, philosopher or poet. His name never occurs in a single inscription, and it is never found in a single piece of private correspondence. Zero! references."
"Jesus Christ Was never Exist "
Plz see video...
ruclips.net/video/3_TDgTebF_Y/видео.html
Bible allow slavery, rape , loot , genocide , terrisom
& it is always against the science and morality .
Judges 21:10-24
(New Living Translation)NLT-
"So the assembly sent 12,000 of their best warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children.
“This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy[a] all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found 400 young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan."
ruclips.net/video/0CCkG9C1z_g9/видео.html
Bible allow slavery...
Exodus 21:20-21
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
"It would be more consistent that we call [the Bible] the work of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind."
Thomas Paine
Exodus 21:7-11
“If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.(A) 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.
Plz click link to read...
www.evilbible.com
Chritianity debunked using science & history
As per Bible the creation started in 4004 BC at 9 AM on 23rdOctober. Means creation took place nearly 6000 year ago.
Bible said earth is flat , sun moving around the , But Galileo said that the earth is round and circles the sun , and the church blinded him , so that he can never look into another telescope.
Also punish copernicus .
Undermining of science is evil
When I think of all the harm the Bible has done, I despair of ever writing anything to equal it’
- Oscar Wilde (1854-1900), Irish author
Plz see video....
ruclips.net/video/79UAYyMYk7I/видео.html
The Bible is one of the most genocidal books in history.
Noam chomsky
.3@÷
You spoke the words I could never say that I thought in my mind
Then think it. Always think but these people take it to the extreme and stop thinking.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html
The odds are NOT there.
ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
I love you so much for this. Thank you
Arrived at your RUclips channel to watch a video about Texas (travelling from New Zealand to visit later this year, planning it out now ). Then saw this video and watched the whole thing. Thank you for sharing your story, it's raw and honest, and so well communicated too.
I admire your courage. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Greetings from Finland! :)
Thanks for watching. Love from Texas!
Yes the video was nice, but i see alot of problems in her spirituality as a believer, well when she was a believer.
@@WildwoodVagabond vagabond can I tell you something
@@WildwoodVagabond just live your life for yourself
You have definitely been on an a fascinating journey, to say the least.I've never been religious, but I don't begrudge anybody for it. I can understand the comfort it may bring and it seemed to be something you needed at the time. Ultimately, let's just be inherently good, kind and considerate and forgive ourselves and each other for the occasional stumble and everything will be alright.
I agree! Take care. It’s nice to hear from you
It sounds nice, but christianity isnt about being a nice person but having a persistant and personal relationship with Christ.
I realize that, and I respect anyone who finds comfort in that relationship 🙂
Get religious its the best thing you will have done. Not just because of heaven but because of success and lifestyle.
I’m ok. Thank you.
Came across your video. Thank you for sharing your experience. Sorry you had to go through that. I hope all the best in your journey
Thank you! Same to you
@@WildwoodVagabond thank you
Proud of your decision. I was raised by a catholic father and attended a pentecostal church when I was in California and it was the most oppressive and toxic experience I've ever had. It made me feel like I was living for somebody else.
Relatable was raised catholic and lms lutheran. Went to many christian churches. The non denominationals dont fix he problems of christianity, they just sweep it under a rug
So in trade, you'd die for this excuse of a female liberator?
I totally respect your decision. And it takes a lot of inner strength to lay your soul bare, as you have done. First of all, I think people tend to adhere to the religion they were raised with. I too was raised in a Christian family. However, as one ages and has more life experiences, there are challenges to one's faith. Now it is clear to see that religion provides comfort and succor to many, whether you are Christian, Muslin, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, whatever... I became disenchanted with religion in general when I started studying other religions. I recognized a commonality between many of them, that being "there is no path to salvation except through OUR religion." How can that be? Then there is the controlling factor about religion. You obviously have encountered that. So where does one go from there?
There comes a time in many people's lives, as it has for you, where you reach the conclusion that a particular religion, or all established religions perhaps, are not for you. They just don't make sense any longer. To me, I still believe God exists...but, I think of God as being the Universe. I know this may sound whack, but it's what I believe. The Universe is alive and conscious. Look at some of the more recent maps of the universe showing how the flows of gravity and other energies. It looks surprisingly like a neural network. I think we came from God, but as a evolution of God's being. I am not convinced God is really caring of individuals, as many religions teach. I think more so that God cares about what happens to us as species, but individuals, not so much. What does that mean?
You've already come to the understanding that we are in charge of our own destinies. While religion can lead you to some compassionate people that can help you through tough periods of your life, that compassion is an expression of conditional love, as religion tends to do. Please know that there are compassionate people out there who won't shun you just because you don't think exactly as they do. It is said that "God helps those who help themselves," and I believe this is excellent guidance. For I believe God gave us intelligence and the ability to do things for ourselves. Never let anyone get you down or stand in your way. Good luck on your journey of introspection and growth!
Thank you so much for taking the time to share this! I totally agree with all that you said! And I also started to see the similarities between all of the religions. I believe it's all basically the same. We just use different words to express some truths and of course rituals and practices vary greatly, but at the root of it all I see it's all the same thing. I also see God as the Universe now. Take care. Thanks again
Raymond, it sounds like you're on a good path, but there is often a huge difference between what man teaches in churches, and what the Bible and other texts actually say.
The Bible teaches, that Jesus says "the only way to the father, is through me" Man think it means through the physical body of Jesus from Nazareth, or the churches claiming to follow him. However, Jesus said before that "I am the way, the truth and the life", just before he says that. Could it be, that we reach the father through these three things?
("The way" is a complex biblical principle, which I wish I could explain here, but it would be confusing).
My point being, there might be many belief systems, but only one universe and one God, and God did not buy the parts for the universe in Walmart.
@@martinklopnof5284 I'm pretty sure you'll just ignore this, but... What you're saying sounds insane to non-believers. You might convince a fellow cult-member to get back into the flock with that, but once people think themselves out of religion by the way of reason, there's really low chance of relapsing. You seem to be happy with your faith anyway so you do you.
@@tommihintsala1201
Thank you for responding, and giving me insight in how it sounds to you. I'm not trying to get someone back in a cult. I was once atheist myself, so I can partly follow you, even though it's been a while.
I agree, that for a true atheist, the Bible has very little to offer as far as a moral compass. There are things in there you will like, but also things that will seem cruel or even barbaric. What the Bible can offer an atheist, in my opinion, is mostly of historical and literary qualities. There are some good stories in there, and many classical literary books references the Bible, if they're not actively "stealing" from the Bible. The Bible is not alone in that regard though. Greek mythology etc. is good in that regard also.
@@martinklopnof5284 There's a bunch of sound advice in the bible. It just seems silly to me to believe the underlying story. I don't mind that people do. Whatever makes you happy and doesn't hurt others is fine by me.
Praying for you, Sweet friend! One look around the world will tell you He is coming back soon! “The whole earth groans...”
I pray you return to your first Love while there is yet time💕
You cant return to someone that abuses you groan on annoying wretch
@@brialapoint2608 the Lord doesn’t abuse 🤔 I think your blame is misplaced. Praying for you, Bria 💗
Thank you. Having a choice, but being eternally punished for using it, is not truly having a choice at all.
We are not our own power.
Strength, looks, money, youth, time all run out
I identify as christian but agree with SO much of what youre saying! This can only be positive as youre clearly on a path of good intention and self discovery! Sending all the love and good vibes your way! x
Thanks for sharing and for not canceling me ❤️🥰 lots of love to you
This is a problem, because it means that eventually you will come to the same conclusion.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 if you say so 💁♂️
I feel like there are a lot of us Texan deconverts speaking up these days. Kinda interesting.
Same here....rural Texas and left religion behind. I respect people, their views, and am a good person. I couldn't take the fear anymore (among other things).
You did a very thorough job explaining how you feel. One thing you did Leave put was what do you believe now. So I wanted to respond to what you said at the end about saving yourself. That we have the power to save ourselves. I wanted to ask you “save yourself from what? If you don’t believe in heaven or hell or sin, what is it you’re saving yourself from?” 💁🏻♀️
I'd stay away from cultish thinking, no matter what nice-sounding name or label others want to put on it!
Its nice weather in Helsinki and this video cheered me up even more. There's no one true religion and if there was, I doubt any deity would be so narcissistic that it would punish us for being curious about reality and existence.
Take care!
I like how you worded that! I agree. I’m glad to hear you have nice weather in Helsinki. Take care! It’s nice to hear from you
That isnt true, all religions contradict each other. Islam hates christianity, christianity hates taoism, taoism hates sikhism and sikhism hates buddhism, etc. They all hate each other and profess to be the only true one. Although Judaism and Christianity are hypothetically analogical brothers.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 you cannot use Christianity and hate in the same sentence. I mean what aspect of love your enemies do you pee not like to understand. The Quran commands muslims to execute the unbelievers soo you are correct islam teaches Muslims to hate but what the bible teaches is to love your enemies soo a Christian who hates is not a Christian maybe a Christian in name only.
I’m a Christian. I have no one not a single person on earth.
Rare thing this leaving religion. People usually become so dependant on that way of life that only way out is to another church or cult or something like that
If a person switches churches often, it means they care about people, and people sway their spirituality, but true spirituality is defined in Christ and Him alone, not men.
this is so empowering to listening to, hearing she going through her notes. go go go
Thank you for sharing your story. You are very brave.
Yes, I've felt this for a long time: dependency on god is passivity. Some people use god as an excuse not to make their own decisions.
Rebecca, who is Jesus Christ to you?
Are you kidding me? I thought you were like 31 now.
Haha 😄
She does look good.
@@markduncan8227 How is telling a women she looks good creepy?
They're saying she looks good for her age. It's just a compliment.
I was Buddhist. Had no idea I was infested with demons. In the name of Jesus I’ve seen visions of demons fleeing me, letting go of me 3 times so far. I am a changed woman. I used to have bouts of anger, no self control? Jealousy pride etc. now I’m practicing righteousness and examining myself if I’m in the faith. The fruit of the spirit Galatians 5:22 I’ve been a believer for about 3 years now. I’m praying against any spirit of confusion, anxiety, depression opposition, any schemes from the enemy in the name of Jesus I bind and break them off my life and yours too 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
You're amazing!!! You make HELLA sense and this video speaks volumes to me so thank you love! Keep doing you!😜
Sounds a lot like the church I was in for 7 yrs as well. I left though but after leaving, everyone stopped speaking to me and it was also a cult. I’m now no longer Christian after learning on my own and using my own thinking. I was told many times that I didn’t really love god, i back slid, blah blah blah lol I get ya girl. Great vid!
God has not abandoned you...come back to Him
there is a prophecy of the great falling away II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ
like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc
he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case
john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late
we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 )
daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
@@YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamr This is circular reasoning at it’s finest. Faith is belief without evidence. There is no empirical evidence of the divine at all. Scientific fields that would find evidence of a so called god has not found any. There is a reason why there’s a high negative correlation between one’s educated status and religiosity. In this case the more educated one is the less religious they are. Because they don’t just chalk it up to “I don’t know therefore magic/God”. Which if you believe in the Bible you do in fact believe in magic. In the past when we attributed things to being “divine” turns out we were ignorant and discovered the real explanation of things and founded whole new scientific fields of study. Also, we don’t need a god to explain the natural world and how things came into existence. Fallacious, philosophical arguments and statements from a said “holy book” written by mere fallible men who got everything wrong on just about very thing is NOT evidence. The Bible states the earth is a snow globe like shape surrounded by water in space. Obviously this is embarrassingly wrong. There are plenty other examples I can go on about on scientific claims that are wrong in the Bible. Along with hundreds of contradictions within the Bible which counteracts the whole point of it being “infallible”. Showing it is no better than any other holy book out there and is in fact flawed. Hitchen’s razor states “What is a asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” Positive claims require positive evidence. And the burden of proof falls upon the one making the positive claim. Therefore, I can refute your positive claim and call out the bluff of your unsupported argument. And I’m not necessarily making a negative claim by doing so. As Aron Ra states “Christians hate the burden of proof more than vampires hate garlic” which I have to whole heartily agree. I would highly recommend you check out Aron Ra’s video titled “what is faith.” Very informative.
Trying to leave, but it's impossible to get rid of the fear of hell and guilt over being an unbeliever. Nothing seems to work at all.
I admire your ability 2 not bash Christians. My experience has been that they bash me when I start sharing my message. Your humility is a wonderful part of who U R. I could learn a lot from U. I too, came from an abusive home. It's hard 2 let go of my anger.
Very courageous
This was amazing and so relatable! U communicated so flawless so many of the issues that I've had as well.
In my opinion as a long as you live respecting others, their beliefs and the earth you dont need religion. i do have to admit myself that i still see religion as a war starter and in that context bad but any other way its fine
God didn't start wars man did...God made everything perfect on earth and man made it all fall but God is going to make a new perfect heaven and earth (revelation)
II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late
we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 )
daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
Good to hear about your journey. I came out of Christianity when I was about 19. Can't even remember the exact timeline or the order of realizations. I just came to realize there was no evidence for gods and the absurdities including what you listed here kind of closed the deal. Nowadays when I look at religions and any kind of supernatural beliefs from the outside it baffles me how I once believed it all. Including all kinds of self-contradictory things. But I was raised in it and rational thought needs to be learnt, no-one has it nailed down naturally, especially as a child.
Thanks for sharing! Much love to you
Supernatural experiences come from christianity, no other faith gives us more experience than christianity, the least we will see is demons manifest and interactions with demons.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 How would you know, have you practiced every religion and supernatural belief system? Every faith claims similar supernatural events and miracles. Not one has been verified, suggesting they are all in the believers' head. Let's face facts here: there's gods and demons as much as there are leprechauns and pixies - which is to say there aren't. Humanity would do well to grow out of such nonsense.
So much respect! We are all always learning and adjusting.Your reasoning takes courage, and you are spot on. The natural world (universe) is so much more amazing and awe inspiring its not even a contest.
Girl, you are so sweet and reasonable. Thank you for sharing your story
Wow, this video was so moving. 🥺❤️
Also it was so cute the dog sleeping on the bed and not flinching 😂
"Wait, what? I'm being recorded and uploaded?!"
And then the dog woke up and yawned 😍🥺 so cute
Evolving out of religion, well put. Spirituality is about stepping into our own power and realizing we are all gods and goddesses, and don't need anything external to save us. It's kind of like becoming an adult. When we realize we are all Master creators of our own life, we can also no longer blame anyone or anything external for anything anymore, lol.
P.S. You look radiant here! Your natural hair color looks amazing on you 💛💫
We can no longer blame a spiritual deity for our failures, but there's still plenty of other powerful, blameworthy obstacles. For example, government, politicians, lawyers, insurers, and human selfishness and ignorance.
I agree! I think you and I are of the same mindset in this area. Thank youuuu for your compliment and encouragement ☺️
You say a interesting message, but who are proven to be the things you speak of more than christians. Christians are like Christ, Christ is the eternal Son of God. Christianity teaches its people to be Godlike in nature and in (personal, but not divine) attributes. Christianity teaches perfection and the works of God. The christian God rules with His people in His kingdom, eternally. We will be creating with Jesus, united with The Father, and full of the Holy Spirit entirely, and reigning with Jesus, eternally. There is nothing, no faith better than that.
@@joshuamartinpryce8424 Your paragraph is so typical, and strangely ironic for a Christian to obsess about. In just one paragraph you appealed to living for eternity (greed for life) three times, creating, reigning, ruling, and living in a "kingdom" four times, and being superior to others once.
None of this is to be received until after you die, of course, and that's only if you can get and stay in God's favor during the relative blink of an eye you're here on Earth.
Why not just focus on becoming satisfied with what you can achieve for yourself, your loved ones, and the world in THIS life, for its OWN sake, and not for the purpose of advancing to heaven to attain infinitely more quantities of it?
Really, if you did all this just out of the goodness of your heart, wouldn't you think God would be even MORE pleased?
Finally, do you really think that despite the good you achieved on Earth, God would really banish you to HELL for ETERNITY, just because you didn't practice a few insensible religious rituals while you did it??
Thank you for sharing your story. I can relate to your co-codependency - for me; more with people please.
I never grew up very “christian” , I went to a methodist church, my grandparents raised me to serve the community and be loving, compassion, caring. Learning how to say no has been the hardest part for me. I feel like my faith was healthy, i still honor Christ. In my own way. I honor and study all religions and beliefs. but I personally have a relationship with my spirit team and source. It wasn’t too hard for me to walk away from the western christianity theology. I am a very rebellious at heart (im the sweetest i swear lol) but, that has kept me sane and away from a lot of life sucking things on this earth. I love to learn new things and i’m honestly always changing. I love experiencing things, learning history and cultures and enjoying relationships. I believe life is a journey.
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
That's an incredible story!!!
I'm from Finland - but you don't know me. In one of your videos, you said, that Finnish people love to see what foreigners think of Finland. I'm one of those guys :)
But hey! No joking! That's an incredible story!
I have lost my religion, turned to an atheist - so I know how big thing it is.
When you are losing your religion, you are reassigning everything in your life.
It feels like it's the bravest and most intelligent thing you have ever done - whilst someone kicks you in the middle of your heart.
Everyone is throwing around ideas no one actually knows everything.
i recommend questioning everything
Thanks for being so brave and for shining a light for us!
You’re welcome! Thanks for you long time support and love!
Jesus said He is the light, and that believers are the light of the world.
I am glad that you are delivered from drug addiction. I am glad that you are free.
Omg the way I relate to this woman! You are speaking facts, I felt so understood in this video!!
That’s great! Thank you for sharing ❤️
Agnostic, functionally atheist when it comes to religion and have been since I was a child. My best friend for 20+ years is a hard core Christian. I don't care what you believe as long as you try to be a good person, care for others, and respect other's choices and beliefs. What an amazing world it would be if we could all agree on that outlook.
Religion is a funny thing... Did everyone else choose the wrong one , when they were born in a different region of the planet? Religion is a man made thing. We should believe in universe. We are all stardust.
So true. I agree. Thanks for sharing
For me it was far more simple of a reason than this to get out of the whole Christianity trap.
I was going to church because at the time I was attracted to that way of thinking. I started hanging out with a Christian band who conducted their own service twice a week. At one of the services I was overcome by emotion because of the preaching of this one guy. I went running down the aisle and went through the whole conversion experience. I then waited for the Holy Ghost as had been promised.
And waited. And waited. Weeks turned into months -- it never happened. I asked the minister about this and he said, "You can't go by your feelings on this. Jesus promised he would send the Holy Ghost and you have to trust that he has. Just trust the process."
This made no sense to me. The Holy Ghost is the third aspect of God himself. When the Holy Ghost descends into your body you can't not know it's there. The Holy Ghost will absolutely change you completely. There will be no doubt in your mind. You can't be thinking is the Holy Ghost there? maybe that's it ... no no, maybe that. It can't work that way. There was clearly no Holy Ghost inhabiting my body. And there was clearly no Holy Ghost inhabiting anyone else's body either. They were ordinary people experiencing a mental delusion.
I realized at that point the whole thing was a scam.
That wasn't the only thing, of course. I was also surrounded by idiots who thought perfectly fine people were possessed by demons. These people were obnoxious as hell ... and I finally couldn't stand it any longer. I got tired of listening to their nonsense.
That whole process took about 3 months. I was lucky.
Some people, however, understand how crazy it all is very early on in the Christianizing process. And there's definitely some people who spend a lifetime trapped and delusional -- it just depends on your mindset and how determined you are to stick with something that is truly insane and is destroying your life as a rational human being. Christianity has had over 1500 yrs to work out the kinks. They now have any answer for any problem you have and any question/doubt that arises in your mind. That's just where we are right now with the major religions of the world. If you can escape it and see through it, then get yourself free. If not, you're just stuck -- whether you realize it or not. And you'll stay stuck until you start to think for yourself.
Christianity isnt a trap to man, but its a trap to negativity and evil forces.
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. I can definitely relate
Pat, I had good and bad experiences with churches. I've stayed out of them for a long time now. That being said, I didn't go braindead and ignore the evidence just because of them.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html
The odds are NOT there.
ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
At my dad's funeral, the pastor asked me why he never sees me at church anymore. I told him that I was an atheist. He then asked me what made me stop believing in God. I told him that he is asking the wrong person the wrong question. The question he should be asking is how can anyone still believe that stuff, and the person that he should be asking, is himself. I wish I could take that comment back. I didn't have to be so blunt. Now when someone asks me that question, I say that I couldn't find any good reason to believe in any God in the first place.
As a professional theologian there are a lot of con·tra·dic·tions in the bible. Here's just one of many examples.
I find a contradiction when Christians say ''You're born a sinner' yet another verse states ''we are fearfully and wonderfully made''???
Men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression Deu. 24:16, 2 Chron. 25:4.
Christ? Died for no one:
If Jesus died for our sins, what happened to all of the sinners before Jesus came along? Did everyone just end up going to hell?
The Bible says no one can take the punishment for someone else’s sin. How did Jesus die to save sinners with this being said?
Deuteronomy 24:16
Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.
It's your life. "Don't give permission over to those who don't belong in your head in the first place"
What is the condition of the dead?
THE BIBLE’S ANSWER: “The living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.” *-Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10.
The Grave, simply put, is where humans go when they die; it is a symbolic place or condition where any consciousness or activity ceases. How did the faithful man Job view the Grave? He had lost all his possessions and children in one day, and then he was struck with agonizing boils all over his body. He pleaded with God: “O that in the Grave [“in hell,” Catholic Douay Version] you would conceal me, that you would hide me.” (Job 1:13-19; 2:7; 14:13) Clearly, Job did not understand the Grave to be a fiery hell, a place where his suffering would be even worse. Rather, he thought of it as a place of relief.
There is another way to learn about the condition of the dead. We can examine the inspired Scriptural records concerning eight people who returned from the dead.-See the box “ Eight Resurrections Described in the Bible.”
Not one of those eight spoke about being in a place of bliss or torment. If the people who were resurrected had gone to such a place when they died, would they not have told people about it? And would this not be included in the inspired Bible record for all to see? In the Scriptures, nothing of the kind is recorded. Those eight people evidently had nothing to say on the subject. Why not? Because they had been unconscious, as if in a deep sleep. In fact, the Bible sometimes uses sleep as an illustration to explain death. For example, faithful David and Stephen both “fell asleep in death.”-Acts 7:60; 13:36.
What hope, then, is there for the dead? Can they awaken from this sleep?
EIGHT RESURRECTIONS DESCRIBED IN THE BIBLE *
A widow’s son The prophet Elijah resurrected the young son of a widow who lived in Zarephath, north of Israel.-1 Kings 17:17-24.
A Shunammite boy Elijah’s successor, the prophet Elisha, resurrected a boy in the town of Shunem and restored him to his parents.-2 Kings 4:32-37.
A man in a burial place The corpse of a man who had recently died was hastily left in the same burial place where Elisha’s bones lay. When the man’s body touched the prophet’s bones, the man was resurrected.-2 Kings 13:20, 21.
The son of the widow of Nain Jesus interrupted a burial procession outside Nain to resurrect a young man and restore him to his grieving mother.-Luke 7:11-15.
Jairus’ daughter Jairus, an officer of the synagogue, implored Jesus to help his sick daughter. Jesus resurrected her shortly after she died.-Luke 8:41, 42, 49-56.
Lazarus, Jesus’ dear friend Lazarus was dead for four days when Jesus resurrected him before a number of onlookers.-John 11:38-44
Dorcas The apostle Peter resurrected this beloved woman, who was known for her many acts of kindness.-Acts 9:36-42.
Eutychus The young man Eutychus died when he fell from a high window; the apostle Paul raised him back to life.-Acts 20:7-12.
Eternal torment would violate God’s justice. (Deuteronomy 32:4) When the first man, Adam, sinned, God told him that his punishment would simply be to pass out of existence: “Dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) God would have been lying if he were actually sending Adam to a fiery hell.
God does not even contemplate eternal torment. The idea that he would punish people in hellfire is contrary to the Bible’s teaching that “God is love.”-1 John 4:8; Jeremiah 7:31.
Death, not torment in a fiery hell, is the penalty for sin. “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”-Romans 6:7.
"As a professional theologian"
No, you're a nitwit.