I started reading Bertrand Russell's writings around 1981. I was still a believer in the concept of "god" but had abandoned organized religion several years earlier after learning about European history. Russell's writings convinced me that "god" as a concept was illogical which helped explain the harm done by religion.
I dont get when people say things like this. More often than not if it was relevant 10 years ago, 100 years ago, 1000, or 10000 it is still relevant today because we humans have been dealing with the same old shit here on the earth. There is nothing new under the sun
@@DOMinatorxXx42I suspect because it is almost 100 years old we as humans would have moved past this topic/issue. That might explain the amazement of the age of this piece of information
@paulromanitan6031 Did you even read my comment? It's been the same shitshow on the earth for the last 6000 years at least. How can we move past any issue when we keep doing the same thing over and over?
@@DOMinatorxXx42 sometimes people stumble across new pieces of content and then find it worthy to mention that they didnt know that piece was so old. It might be silly and naive but its also ignorant for you to make such a patronising comment as if everyone should be aware of the issues of humanity. And yes there are absolutely new things under the sun A.I and its impact on humanity for example. Youre not as smart as you think stay humble.
@@paulromanitan6031AI is a marketing gimmick created by tech giants to sell their product. All it is is scripts that take in information and possibilities and calculates the best decision based on the information we program into it. You think that really is going to have a major impact? If you're a lawyer then probably. And the fact people aren't aware of the issues plaguing our species is the problem and why there is so much needless suffering in the world. How can people solve the issues we face if we don't know what they are and keep doing them. Also I am smart because everyone is smart. Human beings are naturally intelligent, it's just a matter of how much you know and understand and I know and understand more about such topics than probably 95% of people alive today. Probably higher
It's been about 20 years since I voluntarily went to church. The day I walked away, I realized I should have done it sooner. A rational mind can't listen to the nonsense and changing of rules without frustration and eventually anger. Once out of that loop, the world opens up. Nature and the way it works is infinitely more interesting.
John Rudy: I've a question for you, one that arises from a deep spiritual struggle that has not yet been settled within me. When you walked away from church and a belief in God, how were you able to jettison the fear of hell? It seems to be one of the foremost issues that keeps people from leaving the faith. The prospect that one will suffer in a lake of fire in eternal torment is a terrifying concept. For me, it is something that I cannot shirk. Yet, when I consider the concept of hell, I must conclude that it is used as a bludgeon to keep people in line and living in fear. How can a God that claims to be love use this kind of fear to control people?
@@darlenegriffith6186 As someone who recently deconverted, the fear of hell subsides the longer you are away from the church. Christianity uses the concept of hell very effectively for two things: forced conformity with the denomination (“don’t do anything we don’t like, or you’ll go to hell”) and instilling fear of separation from the church (“without us you’ll surely go to hell”). My advice, if you’re looking to remove yourself from this ideology, is to look around you for evidence of hell. From there you can determine if the idea of hell that the church puts forth correlates with the evidence. If I was a betting man, I would bet that you’ll only find “evidence” from those who are trying to manipulate and control you through fear. Removing oneself from years of religious indoctrination is scary, but getting out from under the crushing unsubstantiated fear of eternal torment is worth it. Stay strong and keep seeking truth
Love that he doesn’t pull punches, or dance around trying not to insult someone - if he means to say that someone or something was “wicked”, he says “wicked”.
He uses logic to contradict common thought. Logic is a skill which is sadly neglected or ignored today. He does make a very important point here though which I believe is really the central issue and justification (if you call it that) for religion…fear. Wouldn’t it be nice if humans would stop letting fear be our primary motivation instead of love, fairness and compassion. His argument that we don’t need religion to be good is the point.
[Is Bertrand Russell's "Why I am Not A Christian" Sound? No!] ruclips.net/video/DJv3YYTAI5g/видео.html [Bertrand Russell’s Flawed Argument against the Existence of God] ruclips.net/video/MBSCEG5HChQ/видео.html
@@ngonyx5 Both videos basically hinge on the assumption that Russell didn't let the theists define god into existence so he must be wrong. The first video was the worst, that guy clearly didn't understand a lot of Russell's points related to what is good and the existence of Hell. Not to mention, disabling comments comes of as a little cowardly when discussing philosophical ideas. Classic church mentality, no Q&A segment after pronouncements are made, lol
PS this is incredibly clear audio for an almost century old recording. What a marvel to have public organisations like the BBC to preserve our cultures and histories.
What a shame they have taken it upon themselves to become political and woke. What was once a great institution has now been infected and destroyed by social justice warriors and neo communists.
Definitely not Russell; the tone is far more assertive and declamatory than Russell's natural voice and manner. I recognise the reader whose voice would also be familiar to other radio listeners of that time but I cannot yet identify who it was, possibly an actor from the 1960's
@@carollane8694 Wasn’t Russell a campaigner for social justice and admirer of Marx? Haven’t the BBC always been something of a well-meaning socialist organisation, since it started?
@@MrMusicbyMartin Not entirely, it has been a tool of propaganda since its inception - and I mean that in a technical sense, not simply a derogatory one. However, it did have a broad view up until its politicization in the 1980s and showed a range of views particularly in the 60s and 70s, but that was the era of post war consensus, so in all cases it reflected the political values of the time.
Agreed, Russel argument are so solid against Christian religious beliefs to withstand the test of time. As long as the Bible, the faith, the second coming expectation remains unchanged so will be the validity of the arguments against it, for the next 94 million years.
@James Patrick ¿Misleading the masses? Leading the masses has become impossible, let alone misleading them. In my modest view, what western institutions and societies are doing right now is trying not to be trampled by the masses.
That’s because no one really knows the truth and no one ever will everything is based on theory and dogmatic beliefs about the beginning of the universe and the hereafter. How we came and where we’re going This question will never have a certified answer
You don’t know what you’re missing out on without Jesus Christ dwelling within. 1 Timothy 3.16 God manifest in the flesh. Enjoy your short stay in his creation🙂. I’ll see you guys at the judgment hey we’ll see if you accepted or rejected his free gift of everlasting life.
His 'History of Western Philosophy' should be on every school curriculum. Not only is it the best introduction to philosophy ever read but it gently pushes you towards critical thinking. HOW to think, rather than WHAT to think. It's written beautifully also. :)
They don't look to the future because that would entail God. They don't believe in God means no future. The way life is now, is the result of when you take God out of the position where he belongs. At the top. Number One priority. Why? Because He is Sovereign over everything. He picks and chooses who gets what. When you leave it to man.... We tend to destroy and corrupt things, this is our nature. We come from the devil, whereas Jesus came from God. We are eternal beings in fleshly attire. Our hearts are deceitful. Our mind is a trap where the devil lies in wait. We have the Bible and we have the Lord. Without them, we are nothing. We can do nothing. We need Jesus more than we need air. God bless
What an old bag of wind. - "full of sound and fury, signifying. . . nothing." - on this subject. See my full comments supporting the non-rational, non-logical claims Russel makes, and my pointers to the good science, history, archaeology, astrophysics that all argue conclusively, rationally, for Jesus/Yeshua as God the Creator of the Universe.
Bertrand Russell doesn’t have a RUclips channel, but he’s opened his patreon patron benefits up to the general public. You can go to your public library and read every single thing he ever published, at no cost. Pretty cool guy. Who needs a stupid RUclips channel?
What a legend this dude. He would be so excited to know that nearly 100 years in the future, people would still listen to his speech on these advanced electronic machines interconnected all around the world
And perhaps also disappointed by the sloppy way in which this video is presented. There doesn't seem to be enough respect in this upload for Bertrand Russell's demand that we consider THE FACTS. This video has been here for ten years and two days, and STILL the description doesn't acknowledge (A) that the voice in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell (B) that the accent of the speaker in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell (C) that this recording obviously was made more recently than 1927 (D) that the photo used in the video is not of Russell's delivery of this speech (E) that the microphone in the photo is of a design that came after the 1920s (F) that Russell in the photo is many years older than he was in 1927 (the year in which he turned 55). It's not hard to state that this is a recording of someone else reading the speech many years after 1927 and that the photo of Russell was taken long after 1927. This is how Bertrand Russell really sounded in 1932, five years after 1927: ruclips.net/video/qvsPgCx-gMA/видео.html
@@smadaf ഈ ഓഡിയോ റെക്കോർഡിംഗ് സമകാലികമാണെന്ന് കുറച്ച് ബുദ്ധിയെങ്കിലും ഉള്ള ആർക്കും അറിയാം. .. അതുകൊണ്ട് അവർ അത് റസ്സലിന്റെ ശബ്ദമാണെന്ന് തെറ്റിദ്ധരിക്കില്ല.
"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own." ~Founding Father *Thomas Jefferson,* in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814
@@diazjesse97 No, but I DO see the irony in modern American RW fundie nutjobs like YOU pretending that we were "Always a Christian Nation" while also hilariously claiming "Freemasons worshipped Satan!" The irony is SO THICK, you can cut it with a ritualistic knife (made for human sacrifice...like that of Jesus himself). I bet you don't even know why Freemasons and the like were called "Occultists" or "Satanists" by your Christian propagandists of old, do you? Scared to LEARN now, are we? Mmmmhhmmmmm......EXACTLY!
@@diazjesse97 Cool. A) I (always) appreciate a conciliatory tone to neuter any animosity, which I mainly use as offense to maintain engagement as most opponents RUN when they see I know how to write and think and TRUTHBOMB. B) The fact that you “don’t have a dog in this fight” really means nothing to the topic, except that you may be more brainwashed by centuries of Catholic bs about Freemasons or perhaps, "The NWO" conspiracy theories, etc. C) Freemasons were a secular “cult of science” basically, born of the Enlightenment and designed to COUNTER centuries of superstitious nonsense sanctioned by the church. The Catholic church would love it if we never had an Enlightenment, but alas….the Dark Ages ended centuries ago, didn’t it? Lol! D) The belief that they are “Satanists”, etc IS Christian propaganda.. I got more, but let’s just see how that lands with you. I don’t care if “Mr. Crowwwley” (que Ozzy Osborne…) was a Freemason, btw. There is no such thing as “Satanism” in the sense that Christians believe it. This is fairly easy to prove. Your OG objection was a thinly-veiled attempt to dismiss a quote that was about the Separation of Church & State. It was a “Genetic Fallacy”, something Creationists and other fundie nutjobs are fond of using. It has NOTHING to do with the subject of the quote. Attacking the author of ANY quote is pathetically sophomoric as a "critique". Perhaps you could offer a more thoughtful counter-argument instead of, “The guy who said that is fat AND ugly so, Mmmmtthhhh!”, which is how you sound to me. Hahahahaha! Like a child. Most fundies are mentally like kids to me now (I’m 53 and a former Christian, raised Catholic) though so, ya know.. You're in a cult.
@@diazjesse97 Quick aside: Did old Ben Franklin discover electricity because "SATAN???" (Church Lady voice) Gotta love that goofy Christian propaganda. Stay curious, bro.
@@diazjesse97 Then go back to the Dark Ages where you belong. Oh right, this tech we're using was PRAYED into existence, was it? Haha! And you think all non cult members are delusional... Hilarious.
The 1905 essay paper by the famed British mathematician, philosopher and logician, Bertrand Russell, entitled “On Denoting” was described by one of his most notable contemporaneous colleagues, Frank P. Ramsey, as “that paradigm of philosophy”. Notwithstanding the fact that less than one percent of the populace would be able to even comprehend the essay, it is littered with spelling, grammar, punctuation, and syntactic errors, and contains at least a couple of flawed propositions. Even if the average person was able to grasp the principles presented in that paper, it would not make any tangible impact on the human condition. Currently, this planet of ours is doomed to devastation, due to moral decay and environmental degradation, and such overintellectualizing essay papers can do nothing to help improve our deeply harrowing, frightful, and lamentable predicament, especially those papers that deal with exceedingly-trivial subject matters, as does Russell’s paper (an argument for an acutely-abstruse concept in semantics). The fact that Russell’s aforementioned essay paper falls under the category of Philosophy of Language, and the fact that he was a highly-cultured peer of the House of Lords, in the parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, yet his own writings being composed using far-from-perfect English, serves only to prove my assertion that philosophy ought to be restricted to genuine members of the Holy Priesthood. Furthermore, that Bertrand was fully intoxicated with adharmic (leftist) ideologies and practices, including sexual licentiousness and socialism (even supporting Herr Adolf Hitler’s Nazism, to some extent) indicates that he was no lover of ACTUAL wisdom. The fact that, after THOUSANDS of years following the publication of Plato’s “Republic”, not a single nation or country on this planet has thought it wise to accept Plato’s advice to promote a philosopher-king (“rāja-ṛṣi”, in Sanskrit) as the head of its social structure, more than adequately proves my previous assertions. Unfortunately, however, both Plato and his student, Aristotle, were themselves hardly paragons of virtue, since the former was an advocate of infanticide, whilst the latter favoured carnism (even stating that animal slaughter was mandatory). To my knowledge, the only philosopher in the Western academic tradition who was truly wise was the German, Arthur Schopenhauer, because he espoused a reasonably accurate metaphysical position, and he adhered to the law (that is, the one and only law, known as “dharma” in Bhārata) to a larger degree than most other Westerners. Hopefully, someday, I will discover another philosopher without India to join Arthur!
@@ReverendDr.Thomas got it, leftism is evil, which leads inevitably to perversion and moral decay. Hilarious. Unfortunately, Dharma has no real ethical meaning, it is just a reverence for tradition, that which has become accepted through habituation. All evils are permitted as long as they have been established by a power structure lost in the mists of time. Like all religion, it is merely a recipe for subjugation.
People calling Bertrand Russel stupid are the ones that already missed one little detail about what makes him smarter. He wouldn't hate someone because of their beliefs, he just stated why he doesn't believe.
The people did most likely not even click the little triangle to start the video. Most of the comments are void of even addressing the arguments Russell brought up by their very names nor could they repeat them in their own words. It is more a primitive emotional reflex to just post beneath a title of a video in the comment section. Even those people, who assert Russell's arguments to be shale or empty can't even repeat the arguments or content by their respective names. You can clearly see that the vaste majority of negative commentors use language not in the sense to engange or to think, but as handwave or insult noises like you trigger a dog to bark.
It is in my experience that most people who choose to attack these views are simply intimidated by them. If you don’t understand something attack it, kill it. How many times has that dynamic played out? I am soothed by listening to Russell here.
He is stupid because he has a serious flaw 1. He never established a better worldview, he only disproved the Christian worldview 2. Who created God would result in an infinite regression. We won't ever have today if it was infinite regression. 3. He never exactly thought about the people who should get justice, pol pot, Stalin, Hitler, including those who are pedo priests. 4. Very few crimes were done in the name of Christianity. 5. Thank people for telling everyone to read the Bible so literacy rates to skyrocket. 6. There are numerous sociological studies where intrinsic religiosity is extremely beneficial to society.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
Leave it to the intellectuals who always try to define God with their limited intellectual capacities please mr. Intellectual Define how do you get something from nothing all you big Bangerz
@@DavidBrown-zs1ic : _ Oh, you suddenly start talking about causation, which is logically explained by science. How do you define “something” and “nothing”? (Q1)
Someone insists there's a turtle-like creature living billions of light years away from the earth, and that it controls everything happening in the universe. Do you believe him? (Q2)
You must not read much history for if you did you would find the arguments over the articles of the U.S.Constitution impressive. Or the Magna Charter and a thousand writings in between.
@@marksmith9176 I totally appreciate and I understand your response. I understand that many important bodies of law and philosophy have been charted out before Russell ever lived. A classic starting point would be the Code of Hammurabi and an end point could be this moment in spacetime-culture. As I reckon, it would take tens of thousands of hours studying these million points from Hammurabi to now. Bertrand Russell did it for his spacetime-culture, and the prize he obtained was a clear enough perspective on human thought that he could then teach to other people. Both of your examples are excellent. I simply feel like I was sleeping on Bertrand Russell's work. He has such a well done, systematized manner of dealing with modern philosophy. He certainly missed out on contemporary issues, but he has a great knack for explaining all of philosophy up to the early 1950's. He's practically a talking textbook. Also, I am very far from finished with my personal hobby of philosophy. I recently learned how Russell is one of the two founding members of analytic philosophy. This makes him possibly the greatest philosopher of the 20th century: the same century I, and likely you too, were born in.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
@@ngonyx5Did you actually listen to the entire recording? Mr. Russell explains various rationales for being Christian and then in a clear and well reasoned manner explains why he does not accept them. You can disagree with what he says, but to call his statements “childish “ undermines your point more than his because anyone listening to this recording can hear Mr. Russell making logical arguments and backing them up with well thought out points. In the end, he makes a strong case for questioning one’s Christian beliefs.
@@martinutr Oh yes I did, but could not find any redeeming things - I could listen to this a hundred times but I would only come to regret precious time wasted. 'childish' is an understatement, I should have said foolish. For example Russell takes issue with Christ's words: 'Judge not lest you be judged'. Question is does Russell understand what this means? It's all very well raising straw men and displaying what some feel is a 'well reason argument' , when the simple reality is He really doesn't know or understand the meaning of what he is critiquing. 'anyone listening to this recording can hear Mr. Russell making logical arguments and backing them up with well thought out points.' Not true - Russell has been rebutted by many - I could sign post you to some, if you are really interested. Or better still, I could arrange to meet Christians in flesh and blood to iron out difficulties and clarify things, and hopefully snatch you from the clutches of deception masquerading as 'logical arguments'. He does sound like he's making profound arguments - but there really is nothing to all that. That is why he is subtly dangerous. There is more to the world and to reality than what Mr Russell thinks. Have a lovely weekend
[Is Bertrand Russell's "Why I am Not A Christian" Sound? No!] ruclips.net/video/DJv3YYTAI5g/видео.html [Bertrand Russell’s Flawed Argument against the Existence of God] ruclips.net/video/MBSCEG5HChQ/видео.html
Nothing new under the sun , the more I read the more I realize they were not the 1 dimensional black and white photos but people just like us , just as lost as us searching for answers in the void
im not sure, im an atheist so all the part of god for sure, nothing new but narrated with an amazing voice and eloquence, but the arguments on christ... "well jesus said this on wich i agree with him but the christians dont act like that" how is that an argument on christ character? . Im sure he was a great mathematician.
@@melkicastillo3399 he was not attacking the character of Christ in that section, that was the part where he actually agreed with him. the comments on christians is just an aside. The attack comes after, where he talks about the cruelty of the concept of hell = Christ is cruel.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
“But God chose what the world considers foolish to shame the wise. God chose what the world considers weak to shame the strong.” 1 Corinthians 1:27 CEB
@@El_Avalo God (The Christian one and ALL others) is IMAGINARY. What part of that do you NOT understand, fundie? Your beliefs are a SUPERSTITION that has no (*democratic!!) bearing on our SHARED reality. You don’t need an ancient holy book full of moronic myths to tell you what is foolish and what isn’t, you only need the most basic critical thinking skills to unpack said superstition and PROVE IT. If you can’t/won’t do that, then you are not arguing RATIONALLY, you're arguing from the perspective of a cult member. And ANY cult will do… Replace your quote with one from the Qu'ran, or the Bagavad Gita, or Dynanetics, or the Book of Mormon, etc... Now what? More Christianese or is there a working mind in there still somewhere? Let’s find out together, shall we? Can your FRAGILE FAITH handle the pushback?
@@El_Avalo Paul simply ranting. That quote carries no logic. It's just a statement of personal conviction and cannot be defended logically as its "truth " rests on faith, not reason our evidence.
Proud to be an atheist. I made that decision at age 14, 1960. 2 years later I read Bertrand Russell's " Why I am Not a Christian",. I knew then I was not alone, nor wrong in my decision.
@@pm3302 Later in life 6 1/2 years into a marriage, two kids, my non religious wife was brainwashed by the Morman's. At 9 years I had enough. They destroyed my marriage, my life, and separated me from my kids when she took off out of state and it took me some time to find them. She has been married to four Mormons since, all three abused her mentally and physically. She is now in hiding in central Utah. My daughters are now adults and one is completely anti Morman and religions in general, the other is over it and separating herself from the Mormons , her husband has declared, after 18 years marriage and Mormon assault, he has had enough. About time. Religion, in general, has completely fd up the world.
@@petertobin7163nobody cares about society’s ideas regarding the ‘objective’ standards of grammar. all that matters is can we understand his point? we can. therefore your point is childish.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
[Is Bertrand Russell's "Why I am Not A Christian" Sound? No!] ruclips.net/video/DJv3YYTAI5g/видео.html [Bertrand Russell’s Flawed Argument against the Existence of God] ruclips.net/video/MBSCEG5HChQ/видео.html
@@ngonyx5all religions exist in order to control and exploit the followers, people are enticed by the idea of immortality in a perfect world, terrified of going to hell, so they think twice about breaking the laws created by their masters. The only reason for the existence of Christianity is that the Romans knew that they couldn’t control the many lands that they occupied, so when they sawJesus Christ and his following they saw an opportunity to create a new religion that they could control and by making the headquarters of this new religion in Rome they could continue to extract wealth from the once occupied lands without needing to keep garrisons of soldiers there. Genius really. Perhaps Jesus was offered a deal, which he refused or maybe his elaborate execution was staged, it doesn’t matter now, the Romans achieved their objective and continue to milk the lands that they once occupied over a thousand years ago. One of the most enduring deceptions of all time.
I loved Russell from teenage onwards. What he says applies to all religions. So wonderful to hear this again in his own voice. I had only read it before. Rational and so clearly stated. Such a great thinker.
This isn't his voice tho, the quality is too good for 1927 and it doesn't sound anything like him, this is being read by a narrator. This is his actual voice, he had a great speaking voice full of gravitas. ruclips.net/video/4OXtO92x5KA/видео.html
@@wrongfullyaccused7139 Why would he use psychobabble when discussing theological ontology? That has nothing to do with psychology or psychiatry? How would either subject be relevant for a thesis on deontological ethics? I watched and did not hear him do that at all? What phrase would you consider psychobabble? Please give an example? As to claiming Bertrand Russell couldn't think his way out of a paper bag? lol You are talking about the Bertrand Russell who was one of the founders of analytical philosophy? The man considered to be the preeminent logician of the twentieth century? That Bertrand Russell? The Nobel prize winning Bertrand Russell? The Bertrand Russell that was a mentor to Wittgenstein?That one? I think you just learned a new word and just wanted to use it but you should know what words mean first. Here let me help you so you don't look silly again - Psychobabble [ sahy-koh-bab-uhl ] noun writing or talk using jargon from psychiatry or psychotherapy without particular accuracy or relevance.
@@Alsatiagent Russell lived to 1970. As an extremist pacifist, Russell wrote to Godfrey Carter that if Hitler invades Britain, they should not oppose him.
"I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion as organized in its churches has been and still is the principle enemy of moral progress in the world." Truth
@@djg585 LOL. There has never been a Communist state. Russia was a fascist state and not driven by atheism. The Nazis were Christian. The Holocause was the culmination of over a thousand years of antisemitism being preached from the pulpit. Pogroms against Jews had been happening for centuries. Without Christianity, anyisemitism doesn't even make sense. It's not atehists who call Jews "Christ killers." By the way, this would not cause your fairy to exist even if it was true, and just FYI, there has never been a religious theocracy that worked. The US works because it kicked religion out of the Government.
@@physiocrat7143 Why does there have to be a yardstick? I don't understand your question. You're asking what counts as "progress?" How about equal rights for women? Would that count as progress? The Bible says women are property7 who have to keep their mouths shut. Getting rid of slavery, was that progress? Christians supported slavery and accurately used the Bible to defend it. How about Scientific progress? Christians have fought every inch of scientific progress. They wouldn't even admit that the Earth went around the sun. Now they refuse to admit evolution is true, say COVID is made up and doctors are all liars, Global Warming is a liberal conspiracy, etc. We can also talk about lgbt people. Christianity has nothing but shame on that score. Marital rape is A-ok, though. Can you think of a single social, scientific or moral progression that Christianity didn't resist? I can't.
Hmm. I’d like to know what BR’s idea of “moral progress” is and how he can purport to define what he evidently believes to be objectively moral. On what basis was his concept of morality objective?
The 1905 essay paper by the famed British mathematician, philosopher and logician, Bertrand Russell, entitled “On Denoting” was described by one of his most notable contemporaneous colleagues, Frank P. Ramsey, as “that paradigm of philosophy”. Notwithstanding the fact that less than one percent of the populace would be able to even comprehend the essay, it is littered with spelling, grammar, punctuation, and syntactic errors, and contains at least a couple of flawed propositions. Even if the average person was able to grasp the principles presented in that paper, it would not make any tangible impact on the human condition. Currently, this planet of ours is doomed to devastation, due to moral decay and environmental degradation, and such overintellectualizing essay papers can do nothing to help improve our deeply harrowing, frightful, and lamentable predicament, especially those papers that deal with exceedingly-trivial subject matters, as does Russell’s paper (an argument for an acutely-abstruse concept in semantics). The fact that Russell’s aforementioned essay paper falls under the category of Philosophy of Language, and the fact that he was a highly-cultured peer of the House of Lords, in the parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, yet his own writings being composed using far-from-perfect English, serves only to prove my assertion that philosophy ought to be restricted to genuine members of the Holy Priesthood. Furthermore, that Bertrand was fully intoxicated with adharmic (leftist) ideologies and practices, including sexual licentiousness and socialism (even supporting Herr Adolf Hitler’s Nazism, to some extent) indicates that he was no lover of ACTUAL wisdom. The fact that, after THOUSANDS of years following the publication of Plato’s “Republic”, not a single nation or country on this planet has thought it wise to accept Plato’s advice to promote a philosopher-king (“rāja-ṛṣi”, in Sanskrit) as the head of its social structure, more than adequately proves my previous assertions. Unfortunately, however, both Plato and his student, Aristotle, were themselves hardly paragons of virtue, since the former was an advocate of infanticide, whilst the latter favoured carnism (even stating that animal slaughter was mandatory). To my knowledge, the only philosopher in the Western academic tradition who was truly wise was the German, Arthur Schopenhauer, because he espoused a reasonably accurate metaphysical position, and he adhered to the law (that is, the one and only law, known as “dharma” in Bhārata) to a larger degree than most other Westerners. Hopefully, someday, I will discover another philosopher without India to join Arthur!
@smoothygroovyI don’t think you understand what atheists think about the creation of the universe, atheists don’t believe the universe came from nothing rather they just don’t believe that the universe was created by one of many gods humans have created throughout human history. We have our theories about it which come from reasonable logic instead of superstition created by Bronze Age peasants who barely understood anything about the universe and even the world for that matter.
I was brought up in a catholic family and was made to go to church every Sunday even though I didn’t want to go..I was also every 2 months taken to church on a Saturday night around 6pm for confession which frightened me to death as a child talking to a man in a box who’s face I couldn’t see , I just found the whole experience bizarre..It all seems so outdated to me and I choose not to bother with it now I’m older...
I thought the same thing.. priest in a box.. We were very Catholic. I went to school everyday and bibles school for 3 hours after school everyday.. alongside homework every evening for both. I was always in trouble for asking very innocent questions. I truly just couldn't make sense of a lot of it. Do as your told!! And nuns can be VERY mean. Very very mean. -wicked- one might say. I decided around 4th grade I wasn't catholic/christian. In my 40's and the story is still the same. Spiritualality is one thing religion another. They can be braided but usually not so.
i grew up Southern Baptist, and my dad swore that the Church only adopted Confession as we know it in the MIddle Ages,as a way of keeping tabs on parishoners
This is a true gem! Amazing to hear this remarkable man expose religion in his own voice. His thinking and oratory is still as fresh today as it was a century ago.
There doesn't seem to be enough respect in this upload for Bertrand Russell's demand that we consider THE FACTS. This video has been here for ten years and two days, and STILL the description doesn't acknowledge (A) that the voice in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell (B) that the accent of the speaker in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell (C) that this recording obviously was made more recently than 1927 (D) that the photo used in the video is not of Russell's delivery of this speech (E) that the microphone in the photo is of a design that came after the 1920s (F) that Russell in the photo is many years older than he was in 1927 (the year in which he turned 55). It's not hard to state that this is a recording of someone else reading the speech many years after 1927 and that the photo of Russell was taken long after 1927. This is how Bertrand Russell really sounded in 1932, five years after 1927: ruclips.net/video/qvsPgCx-gMA/видео.html
Maybe that future is no so great as you think. How certain is it that we shall travel the Stars by of our invention? Our intellectual mistakes often lead us into blind allies.
Imagine if our intelligence was actually able to create a school curriculum that was not an indoctrination camp that opposes a population that’s strong in critical thinking skills.
Wisdom: Arguably one of the very best analytics, logician and philosopher. Especially in today's world....Bertrand William Russell thank you for igniting a spark.
One of the most profoundly thought provoking and logical, if shocking , lecture on Christianity I have ever stumbled upon. Terrifyingly true to an open and rational mind.
There seems to be a continuous recycling the story of Jesus. Apon recent readings by myself I discovered the story has been told fo 1000's of years. For reference, I'm a long standing practicing Catholic.
Even more amazing that these truths were realized in the 1920s before we knew what we know now about evolution, our origins and our universe. Impressive intellect on this man.
The key here is rational. Belief is irrational but can be word-smithed to appear rational. If you believe in Santa Clause as an individual, seems irrational but harmless. If this grows into a religion, it can create irrational group behavior. Belief that a certain physical attribute either as an individual or group is irrational and can be much more harmful.
He's not wrong on many points. I have two major topics that he missed on, though: -ultimate origin is a rather chicken or egg topic, and that's a boat all philosophies are in. Why did the big bang happen? Where did the matter and energy come from? Answering "it just is" sounds suspiciously like what a religious person might say of god. I reject Russell's arguement on that. I have no good answer, but neither does "science" (I hold a PhD in micro-paleontology, so I know a bit about the science). Pretending we "know truth" here is a religious move, and to say otherwise is sophistry. -Russell keeps conflating "how" with "why" which may actually be the sin against the holy spirit. Why? Well, if I show you how to properly tighten and torque a nut onto a bolt, that's not the same as why. The existence of a bolt does not carry an imperative that it have a 70 ft lb nut torqued onto it. "Why" might be to secure your tire sufficiently to your car.
@@GenXdad everyone constructs someone or something that is beyond death, that will always be the ultimate relationship to the Devine, it’s the story being recycled not the being
As a Christian, I found some things he said to be brilliant and challenging. I found other things to be a little hard to hear. Some issues he brought up are more complex than he made it seem. But overall, I very much enjoyed the reading. Thank you for the challenge Bertrand Russell! We need more people like you!
‘A History of Western Philosophy’ should be on every bookshelf, Lord Russell has a knack for making the complex ideas of philosophy clearer to laymen like me. I read it when I was 22, newly graduated in the sciences but working in a bar and not motivated to seek a ‘profession’ or ‘career’. I became a teacher after reading his book - not a directly related choice but he changed my way of thinking. His logic seems faultless, and his understanding of psychology and the perception of things a revelation. His other writing taught me that an atheist can be moral and live a purposeful, meaningful life. If you seek philosophical discussion online you will be offered Zizek or Jordan Peterson. I wonder how Russell would have addressed their overt Marxism (for the former) or the 400-year old idealism served up by Dr Peterson? Or what he would have thought of Derrida and Foucault? He didn’t appear to care for Hegel and had a grudging respect for Marx, so I suspect he would have taken them back to Plato’s cave to talk about shadows on the wall 😉
@@ejam1117 You are dismissing a straw man of your imagination as not being perfect is taken into account by the concept of sin. Why are so many atheists so dumb yet are so proud of their own self perceived intellects? Rhetorical question, I have no evidence of your personal ontology. I do know based on your comments that you lack basic understanding of Christianity, though.
@@ejam1117Jesus was Christ, he was ethnically Jewish and upheld the laws of the second temple period, as the temple still stood while He was living - but what He preached was entirely antithetical to Judaism as it is known today. Being the Messiah, being the Son of God, being God in a triune Godhead etc. is antithetical to rabbinic or Talmudic Judaism.
There doesn't seem to be enough respect in this upload for Bertrand Russell's demand that we consider THE FACTS. This video has been here for ten years and two days, and STILL the description doesn't acknowledge (A) that the voice in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell (B) that the accent of the speaker in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell (C) that this recording obviously was made more recently than 1927 (D) that the photo used in the video is not of Russell's delivery of this speech (E) that the microphone in the photo is of a design that came after the 1920s (F) that Russell in the photo is many years older than he was in 1927 (the year in which he turned 55). It's not hard to state that this is a recording of someone else reading the speech many years after 1927 and that the photo of Russell was taken long after 1927. This is how Bertrand Russell really sounded in 1932, five years after 1927: ruclips.net/video/qvsPgCx-gMA/видео.html
Everyone should read Bertrand Russell's book, "Why I Am Not a Christian". It is a breath of sanity and humanity in a world that still does not realize just how backward and ugly that it really has remained until this day.
Actually, everyone should read The Bible and The Book of Mormon - Another Testament of Jesus Christ, and seek to receive a witness from God that they are true (as I have ).😊
@@Fred-mp1vf Everyone should read the christian bible, the book of Mormon and the Koran. It's the best way for people to realise what a load of bollocks they all are.
The company of Bertrand Russell is always fulfilling. The cogency of his arguments and the clarity of his expression are a source of great satisfaction.
I'll never forget the first time I read Unpopular Essays. Listening to him now fills me so many thoughts and emotions, given the present state of this world...
My mother had to work from the age 14. The only book she was allowed was the Bible. Once she was free of that she visited the public library twice a week. In the 1950s she discovered Bertrand Russell's work. Thanks to that I never got the full theist indoctrination and was never really convinced- all though I did try to believe when I had to swear an oath to join the Boy Scouts and felt guilty because I could not suspend disbelief. His argument is so clear and without malice. I enjoyed this very much.
“A good world needs knowledge, kindness, and courage. It does not need a regretful hankering after the past, or a fettering of the free intelligence, by the words uttered long ago by ignorant men.”
I credit Bertrand Russell with helping me to escape from evangelical brain-washing in my late teens. Reading "Why I'm not a Christian" was the tipping point that finally made me reject Christianity. It was such a relief to be out from under the fear and guilt that were heaped upon us. The cruelty and inhumanity of Christians, with the constant threat of hellfire, was also a big factor leading to my being "aborted-again". One positive side effect has been a life-long immunity to religious nonsense. I now count myself as an anti-theist--an opponent to religion and the harm it causes.
@@SuperGreatSphinxAs Lord Russell said in the audio Fear is a fuel of religion. Remove fear from it and you free yourself from chains you've bounded yourself by believing mithologycal bulls*it. There is no Hell.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
The Nazis had very intelligent people in their ranks. Their intelligence almost conquered the world. Intelligence has committed some of the worst atrocities on people.
Unfortunately, Russell's extremely optimistic view on human progress and intelligence seems to be dented somewhat by disasters like climate change, and the existence of massive nuclear arsenals with the potential to destroy most of human civilization. It's starting to look like humans are morally flawed and stupid by nature after all. In 1927, the future looked really bright. Humans' impact on the environment wasn't really widely discussed or well understood, but everyone knew how much better standards of living were getting. And they've gotten far better yet, but now we know that can't last. Now we need the people in power to apply our modern understanding of sustainability to our economic system, and we need the public to get on board. Predictably, the response is denial, resistance, and opposition. And that's not because of religion alone. It's also because of culture, powerful psychopaths who don't want the status quo to change, and basic human nature. But if we all still shared Russell's optimism, we could fix today's problems as well. The epidemic of hopelessness in the face of our ability to solve these problems may itself by the biggest problem.
Intelligent thoughts, ideas, opinions and theories expressed in a civil, honest, direct manner using correct, easy to understand language to convey a powerful and meaningful message- if you choose to agree. This is from the 1920s. In 2024, Humanity overall has lost its abilities to do any of this. Very sad. Thanks for posting. I appreciated this rare experience.
It's amazing to me, how many of his logical arguments made in this recording from 1927, came to my mind as a youth in the 1950s. I lost any belief in Christ about the same time I lost my belief in Santa, at about the age of 8. None of it made any sense to me and I could never understand those who were and are believers.
People's desperate need for lies can be quite alienating for a young mind waking early to the senses of logic. Irrational people fuel infantile depression in the brightest and most vulnerable.
I am born again and I can tell you without a doubt that the bible is true. If you honestly seek for God you will find him. When you pass into eternity I believe it will all be very clear to you how obvious that this was not an accident and that of course there is a Creator. Unfortunately at that point it will be too late. I do wish you well and hope you continue to search.
@@jtm7336 You wrote, "Unfortunately at that point it will be too late." No matter what else you say, I honestly can't listen well to you after trying to strike fear into your readers with those words. It's reprehensible, unChristian, and those words cannot be found in the bible. You are merely drawing your own conclusion to stress the negative outcome instead of sticking to hope. In other words, you've tainted all your hopeful sentiments like a bad apple spoils the whole damn bunch! Wake up and address the vid, which you fail to do whatsoever. I wish you well in that endeavor or whatever, but please stop spouting your conclusions even if you believe them. Thank you.
@@abeautifuldayful Have your little hissy fit, that is fine. I am telling you the truth and not candy coating it. If you pass into eternity without Jesus you will have no hope. Yes, that is biblical!
@@jtm7336 I'm not candy coating it either when I say to go screw yourself - somehow this very personal truth of my divine faith seems to be deleted everytime. Seems there is a disparity of faith in the algorithm.
So far my favorite line is something we say a hundred years later: " "the reason being to create the best universe, of course; although you would never think it to look at it." 😅😂
Yes very brilliant. The breakdown of family and love, horrendous and inhumane lockdowns, the looming threat of a global one-world communist government and constant threat of censorship due to speaking the facts. What a brilliant world it is without God! So intellectual and productive! So brilliant wow atheism and communism is so great!
Not really actually, at least with his arguments on science. They’re very dated, especially his statements on the beginnings of the universe and the laws of nature.
"And VERY relevant to everything happening today!" -- No. The religious fanatics making life a living hell in the U.S. today are not Christians or any of the traditional religions.
@@seanhoffmeyer442 not really. Dated in the sense that science has become even more evolved today then it was 100 years ago, but even with the limited understanding of the time, this 1927's argument still beats every Christian apologetics arguments I've encountered
@@seanmiller6583 Science has diverged from Russel’s view, not further evolved from it. The Big Bang Theory wasn’t well researched or accepted until decades after Russel recorded this, which renders several of his points moot, and the discovery of quantum mechanics (also decades later) breaks the concept of materialism (which Russel relies on) and suggests a transcendent consciousness outside the material universe (whether modern day materialists like to admit it or not). Experimental research in the past decade has only made this more clear. Check out Inspiring Philosophy’s channel, he has several series which summarize this research very well.
They often say, "I'm not condemning you! God condemns you! In this way a person who holds power over others can subject them to his own whims and blame them on a being who is unapproachable. It's a simple way of doing to others exactly what you please and accepting no blame or consequence.
Yep. God is a useful tool for power hungry people, which is part of the reason religion has endured even though it's function of making sense the natural world has ceased.
You'll have to do far better than this dead- eyed creature. Russell is an amateur. Terribly flawed information which causes his logic to turn on itself like a dog chasing its own tail. He has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to the Bible passages he attempts to interpret as if he is an authority on the subject. Far from it. What a little uniformed, lazy prig he really is.
@@eduardbenedic9844 study, study, study science and philosophy, learn to use language effectively, steel man your opponents positions, Ect and practice for a tumultuous lifetime... Best wishes
"Some people mean no more by it (Christianity) than a person who attempts to live a good life." I wonder if atheist Bertrand Russell ever talked to a Christian and/or where is 'opinion'/s are founded on. From a non-academic point of view this 'lecture' is quite poor and surely arrogant. 'Why I do not think that Christ was the best and wisest of men although I grant him a very high degree of moral goodness.' Think about it, 'I, Bertrand Russel, grant Jesus...'.
This was very thought provoking, even for an atheist as myself. I know this is an old broadcast, but I've never heard this before. Brought the typical arguments of today into a better light, where one can actually understand. I have no doubt that every human being, at one time wondered if there was, or wasn't a higher being greater than ourselves. And the ones who got the attention likely were the ones who believed in a God. Doesn't surprise me human beings tended to drift towards the idea of someone looking over us, with our intentions, wants, and fears in their site, it's comforting, and it helps to escape the reality of life. As civilizations grew the governing body grew as well, which I'm sure the God believers were the governing body. And even before the many civilizations and tribes of the middle east, the native american tribes of the western hemisphere, or during biblical times. This discussion began as human beings were migrating out of Africa and deeper into Africa. These early humans communicated, and I believe communicated pretty well for what understanding they had of the world and things around them. It's just fascinating to try and imagine how human beings developed.
God has a social function even more important than the personal function for which an unkind deity serves equally well. As an undying source of authoritative theory and practices that support social production.
@Alabama Well said, may I suggest you replace "God" with deity. There are ~7,200 identified deities mankind has\does believe in and that's ignoring the Hindus one million.
As a child I found the idea of being watched over constantly absolutely terrifying. I remember that line in the prayer I was told to say every night "if I should die before I wake, I pray the Lord my soul shall take". Nice comforting thoughts for a 7yr old before they go to sleep.
His ideas are as potent as they were then, as they are now. Thanks to the BBC for taking such dedication to care for this masterpiece; It is so relevant to our current state of affairs in these United States
@@lawmaker22 The NAZI's had all kinds of religious support--especially from the catholic church and all in america who had their own NAZI party that were the beginnings of the Christian Identity movement. Racism and Christianity have always walked hand in hand.
@@jeremyserwer2586 wow total nonsense. I dont care about christians sects, probably there are all kind of morons there. But i do care about Catholic Church. Nazis hated catholic church and in numerous ocasions noted her as an enemy. Pope Pius XII saved thousands of jews, prooved by thousands of documents. After war Golda Meir thanked him a lot. Chief rabbin of Rome converted to catholicism because of Pope Pius XII. Racism was never part of Church teachings, total opposite, Church was the first who condamned racism. For fuck sake, there are black cardinals for centuries in Church, Church condemned slavery first while your grandfathers had slaves. So go and educate yourself on Church before you say such a historical nonsense
@@lawmaker22 You are misinformed. Joseph Goebbels was ex-communicated by the Catholic Church. Not for being a senior Nazi but or marrying a divorced Protestant. Hitler was given public blessings on his birthday from priests in Nazi Germany. Devout Catholics in the South of Germany were the cruellest against Jews. The SS thought they were doing Gods work. It was written on their belt buckles. I did not know what a Jew was until I heard my Catholic friends say (from out of nowhere) horrible things about them.
@@Alsatiagent what is wrong what i said? Prove it.. you are misinformed.. Im talking about Church as institution. Ofcourse there was some individual cases of catholics being a nazis, that doesnt mean catholic church was nazi, use your logic, not even every german was nazi. i.pinimg.com/736x/76/78/0c/76780cd4dc3c18916bda83b3a8f1cae9.jpg anastpaul.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/the-catholic-church-does-not-recognise-bl-aloysius-stepinac-10-feb-2019-1.jpg?w=840
I read his book of the same title decades ago and liked it very much. I have thoroughly enjoyed listening to his very eloquent speech even more though. He was brilliant.
you could just organize clips from this recording and play them as elegant responses to ninety percent of the apologetic arguments you still hear to this day.
Buit they are nor adequate. I recalled a debate he had with a Catholic historian of philosophy and his metaphysical arguments were rather convincing. But get on the topic of the Holocaust and he cannot persuade me that he has any answer to the question Why was Hitler wrong to kill the Jews? His morality rests ultimately on the back of a Victorian turtle.
@@yomomshouse100Yes Jesus died so his dad doesn’t have to torture us for breaking the rules he made and he knew we would break due to how he designed us to break them.
@@shroomer8294 God is perfect. Any being he creates with a free will to choose will by default not be perfect because they are not God. But anyone can get right with God through Jesus who God sent for us. So in reality we have free will and a choice that is love + DIGNITY so more than love i guess you are right.
@shroomer8294 Not only did god know that humans would break the rules he made, because he designed us, but because he is supposed to be all-knowing. That contradicts the existence of a free will. You can't have it both ways.
@@yomomshouse100 ure an idiot if you stand here and say the name jesus as if you knew he ever existed. We know so little of that hypothetical schizophrenic, we as in those who actually care about the truth, you on the other hand read second hand accounts of second hand acounts written centuries later, heavily edited on political whims and pseudopigraphied into contradictions beyond any consistency. I know how the bible was made, i know when the gospel were written, copied dossens more times, and how the copies were assembled, thats why i know they're not a reliable source of information. Blind fate is for fools, and i pity you and your children that you endeavor to blind just as you were blinded ur self!
Would you say his argument about beginnings, that there is no need nor evidence for there to be a beginning of the universe, holds up with the knowledge humanity has today
@@林二郎-k5hMaybe there isn’t a “before.” If time started at the moment the Big Bang happened then using time as a measurement for the state of the universe pre-Big Bang doesn’t make sense.
An unmatched summary. 1927? So it took 94 years to reach me. Had it been a quarter century, I would have been greatly obliged. But better late than never.
beachcomber2008; If you are 95 you haven't much time left. I would counsel you to accept Christ as your Saviour while you still have the opportunity. As of this day you are a foolish old man headed for the eternal lake of fire. If you are still alive and are reading this, I advise you to ask the Lord to grant you repentance and faith in Christ.
@@nonreality1 I have had his "History of Western Civilisation" on my bookshelf since 1967. I had my own reasons for atheism and never met any connection with his reasons (that I was aware of) before this vid.
@@minhearg8331 no hes living in the fake politicaly correct world where these idiots blame bush for huricanes tornados by the way who are you his boyfriend where and how did you get in to this conversation one sided as it has been
“Where there is evidence, no one speaks of “faith”. We do not speak of faith that two and two are four or that the Earth is round. We only speak of faith when we wish to substitute Emotion for Evidence.” - Bertrand Russell
I have never seen China. I have had many people tell me it exists, but I have no direct evidence of it's existence. I take it on FAITH that it exists .
@@philcorris5899 -- There is a night and day difference in believing China exists and that a specific 'god' exists. One has Real Evidence for it, that being China. That Evidence is "real" and good because it can be Tested and it's Falsifiable. Claims for 'gods' are to be believed with religious faith, which is nothing more than the Politically Correct way of calling it was it truly is = BLIND Faith. That is, the belief in something you Cannot See (hence the Blind Part) but you HOPE is true. Bottom line is, Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence, of which religions provide ZERO. Because of that, religions survive on Blind Faith. Honest question: Do you see the difference between a claim like "China is real" and "My specific god, whom I was born into, is real"?
@@MasterSpade I understand what you are saying, however until you go and see China for yourself, you are simply taking someone else's word that it exists. That is faith of a sort. Questioning the reality of China is of course an extreme example of things we take 'On Faith'
@@philcorris5899 -- I understand what you are saying too. But believing that a place like "China" exists has nothing to do with faith. It's more about the "Confidence" of it being real. Faith and having Confidence in something are 2 very different things, especially when speaking of Religious Faith/Blind Faith. Having "faith" in something, is when there is No Real Evidence. While having Confidence in something is based more on past Real Events and real evidence. Example: If you meet a stranger and he asks you to let him borrow $10K, do you lend it to him? If you do, it would be on Blind Faith that he would pay you back. However if you lend him $10 and he pays you back before he said he would, you start building Confidence in him based on Actual Events (him paying you back). Then after some time you become best friends and you let him borrow, $100, he pays you back. Then $1K, he pays you back. Your Confidence in him is rising. Then you lend him $5k, he pays you back. Then he asks you for that $10K loan... do you let him borrow the money? If yes, it is no longer based on Blind Faith, but on the Confidence that you have in him based on those actual events (Real Evidence) that he has always paid you back. Now, you cannot be 100% sure that he WILL pay you back, but at this point it's the Confidence that was built up on past real events. So Blind Faith/religious faith = No Real Evidence. Based on something you cannot see, but you Hope is true. Confidence = Based on Actual Real Evidence of past events. Because of that, you have a feeling/belief you can trust. See the difference?
@@MasterSpade I would respectfully disagree that true faith is blind and not based on evidence. Hebrews 11:1 clearly states in the King James Version “faith is the substance of things hoped for, ->the evidencea confidence, Of facts
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” - Epicurus
@@nirmaljose7763 The Christ myth is a “Human Sacrifice that worked” for the faithful. Nothing more. It’s an ANCIENT archetype of martyrdom based on sacrificing animals to the gods. The fact that Christians can’t/won’t see this simple facet of their faith is part of the problem and why this superstition persists. You can’t MURDER someone or RAPE someone and just “ask Jesus to forgive you”, thus making it “all better”. Life and JUSTICE does NOT WORK THAT WAY. Start there or go back to your fairy tales. This is the real world where your religion get SCRUTINIZED properly. Former Christian here, btw…
@@DW_Kiwi “Free will” is an EASILY debunked Christian propaganda tool designed to keep YOU, the faithful, from thinking too hard about this stuff. I can prove this if you engage with me, and yes, I see you’re attempting to answer someone else here. Not wasting time debunking that gem without your curiosity….which is precisely why Christianity thrives in America. We’re not a terribly curious or bright country… Do you even realize that you just ignored the quote completely with “God allows man to do evil”. To reiterate Epicurus, “then why call him God”?! What good can belief in any "gawds" possibly offer our way of life if he “allows” these injustices and the only way to appeal to his “mercy” is your piety? Do the parents of dead cancer kids not pray hard enough for him? How about mass shooting victims’ families, same deal? Meanwhile RW Christianity in America stunts REAL debate on gun control (AND cancer-curing research via stem cells, etc) in the name of useless “Thoughts & prayers” and/or “religious liberty”. Theism is demonstrably dumb…
This is a great talk for those wanting to become a Christian. As Kreeft says “One could almost construct a theology from the writings of great atheists. The god who is not there is sometimes clearer than the god who is.”
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" 1 Cor 2:14.
IT IS THE 21st CENTURY - AND STILL, MUCH OF THE WORLD IS ENSLAVED BY SUPERSTITION... ALL RELIGION IS SUPERSTITION - SO OFTEN LEADING TO - DELUSION - VIOLENCE - MADNESS - AND MURDER.
@@Braddha Violence and murder and theft are caused by selfishness and self-centredness. In other words, sins are caused by the foundational sin of self. The gospel of Jesus Christ is about bringing people to death of self and alive to God, by the power of the Holy Spirit. And so the word "gospel" means "good news".
A Christian: One who holds the belief that God became his own son in order to sacrifice himself to himself to fulfill a law that he created and had prior knowledge of. A Christian: One who beliefs that zombie Jesus will return one day to judge the living and the dead. A Christian: One who believes that man was created out of clay; and women out of his rib. A Christian: One who believes that the creator can use telepathic means to read your thoughts and condemn you of thought crimes.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
...curious comment. You wanted to be free of religion but you needed to read somebody else's reasoning to convince yourself. Not much faith in your own thinking capacity. And it was only the first book ?? The other problem is your ultimate conclusion has only a 50/50 chance of being right. It seems you spent a lot of useless time for a 50/50 proposition...You don't sound very selective on how you use your time...
The Miracle of the Atom The Laws of physics that exist are due to the activity within the atom, which is finely tuned in order for us to exist and as we know atoms are required for life. The main energy level occupied by an electron during orbit is dictated by its fixed distance from the nucleus of the atom. This is relative to electron and proton attraction. There are constants within the atom, like the size of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the protons relative to each other. All orbitals that have the same value “N” being the main energy level relates to the quantum number and are said to share the same shell level. Protons are subatomic particles which are charged in relation to the nucleus, electrons are attracted towards them because they have opposite electrical charges; this fine tuning keeps them in orbit around the nucleus making the development of life possible as we know it. The atom is a miracle of design not an accident waiting to happen. Everything is made up of atoms which are finely tuned for the building blocks of life and also they create the environment necessary for the existence of life. The conditions on our own earth in particular are finely tuned being described as biophilic in which life as we know it can flourish. If any of the fundamental constants like the speed of light or the strength of gravity were to change just a little, then life as we know it would cease to exist. This realization has led some physicists to argue that our universe is intelligently designed, made especially for us, no accident waiting to happen. We live in a finely tuned universe perfectly primed in order to support life. There is irreducible complexity within the atom never mine the cell as atoms make up cells and are responsible for life as we know it. Atoms are unique and their atomic number dictates what substance or chemical property they have. Carbon for instance has an atomic number of 6 positively charged protons in the nucleus. Atoms are essential building blocks of life, for example the body contains fat which is made up of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen atoms. Carbon atoms because of their unique make-up also bond strongly to other elements such as hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen because they have branches or rings of various sizes that contain thousands of atoms, carbon is quite accommodating with other substances. These have unique atomic numbers that make life possible. Atoms suffer from irreducible complexity because all the electrons, protons and neutrons must be present at the same time in a particular number and order, for the atom to function as a designated substance. This knowledge dispenses with the idea of mutations and natural selection relating to chemical interactions. Life on the earth is based on carbon chemistry. Carbon is used in organic matter such as our bodies for instance in order to maintain life. They silently carry out important chemical reactions within our bodies and they are essential to life on the earth. Carbon atoms make up the sun, stars, comets and the atmosphere of most planets. Carbon is found in coal, oil, diamonds and natural gas deposits. The atom is clearly designed and many physicists now recognise this, but they won’t use the word God or Creator, they would sooner believe aliens were responsible, but the question is then begged who made the aliens? The term atom really means invisible unit or uncuttable, and for a long time it was thought that the atom could not be split, but when they did, it produced the atomic bomb. An infinite intelligence made the various atoms which are so small and are measured as being one tenth of a billionth of a metre across. They are so small that they cannot be seen under a powerful microscope. We are led to believe that all our sophisticated atoms are derived from an invented primordial complex soup of chemicals which then produced the first living cells. Remember each atom is unique due to its composition and arrangement of subatomic particles relative to the number of protons in the nucleus. This is no accident waiting to happen! A primordial soup is purely fictitious and based on fantasy and imagination because men do not want to retain God in their knowledge. Jesus did not lie to us concerning him being the Son of God and the Saviour of the world. He said that men shall give an account for every idle word spoken, except they repent of their sins!
@@guitarizard You need an encounter with Jesus personally, that is your problem. I have had an intimate spiritual encounter with our Lord Jesus Christ and I encounter his presence every day. I walk in the the baptism of the Holy Spirit which is hard for you to understand at the moment. Jesus said every plant which my Heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted up, leave them alone, they be blind leaders of the blind and if the blind lead the blind both shall fall into the ditch. Jesus loves you! I wonder if you are a lost sheep that needs finding? If you are seek his faith through his loving words!
Thank god his thoughts are more widespread now than when he wrote them. It gives one a little hope that one day we will all be free of the scourge of religious nonsense.
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL "Thank god..." I see what you did there lolol! But in all seriousness, I agree. It seems like we're finally moving slowly away from that religious thinking that has plagued society for millennia.
@@creamandcream9331 Only the last two to three millennia. Before that, what we would call religions were actually the nameless control systems of civilizations populated by bicameral minded people. A situation that persisted for seven millennia after agriculture triggered civilizations into existence ten millennia ago. All this according to a theory I believe to be most likely and certainly the one with by far the most explanatory power. See Julian Jaynes' great book, "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" for the details.
The magic aspect of religion is an obsolete artifact of cultural evolution. But there's more to religions than magic nonsense. Religions have had millennia to become extremely knowledgeable about and highly skilled in regard to the psychological/behavioral control of truly huge numbers of people. Nothing to sneeze at.
@republica Because science works and makes accurate predictions of the natural universe. Considering virtually all specific religious/theological claims revolve around what happens after death they’ve been, and remain to be, unfalsifiable and purely speculative
I so wonder how this was received in 1927, considering all the shit and smears Monthy Python had to take after they made "Life of Brian" in 1979. I mean this was more than 50 years earlier! It´s really pure enjoyment to listen to this man unfolding his arguments. And I now understand where Christopher Hitchens got his inspiration :)
The reaction the Life of Brian was mostly because it was seen as mocking Christ himself, which people took issue with. Intellectual discussions about the topic weren't a new thing even in 1927, and many people had been publicly atheist long before Russel.
What a delightful lecture. I haven't been in a church now for half a century, except weddings and funerals. I understood when I was 8 there was no Santa Clause. When I was 10 I understood there was no god. The day before I turned 18 was the last time I let my mother drag me to church.
Santa Clause is real. The symbolism refers to the 'sanctus claustrum ' in the Centre of your brain. The chimney thing refers to your spine. The 12 days of Xmas are the 1 day each month that your cerebral fluid travels down and up your spine to wait in the 'sanctus claustrum' (for 3 days) before washing through the pineal gland (the gift) and round your brain. Neuroscientists have confirmed this. How the ancients knew this ?? The Vatican held 'the Chrism (oil) Mass' last easter . This is weird stuff and deeper and older than we know.
I would never call myself a Christian. I see it as a very evil and misguided thing to be. Some of the worst people I have ever met, called themselves Christians. I guess they thought they could get away from the karmic consequences of treating people any kind of way...because they were "saved", and because they believed what they thought of as the only right thing to believe, they would go to heaven regardless of what they did to others that they would not want others to do to them.
Susan, My thoughts exactly! It's amazing that 95% of all the self appointed 'Christians' I have met over the years were by far, the most nasty, judgemental, mean, narrow-minded arrogant people I have ever come across.
So if you are a Christian, how would you counter each of Russell's arguments? (I am an atheist of nearly 60 years standing and have never once met a believer who made any sense to me)
Hello. Yes, I'm a Christian, and throughout my 20 years of living as one I've never encountered a non-believer who has presented an argument that made me seriously consider denying my faith. I enjoy listening to people from both sides of the issue.
@@harrisonsamson It is one thing to believe that the universe was created by an invisible deity - quite another to have have convinced oneself that this alleged god takes a personal interest in you and wants your fascinating company forever. Me? I've been an atheist for nearly 60 years (I'm now 79) and although I cannot rule out that some power source created a universe of at least 100 billion galaxies, I reject the idea that such a creator would take an interest in a not-very-intelligent species on a minor planet. In fact, I not only regard such a claim as to be massively egotistical, it's made worse because believers cannot produce a scrap of convincing evidence to show that their narcissistic beliefs are true.. No, when I die - and my death is getting ever closer - that will be the end of me forever. Not the most cheerful of thoughts, but it just happens to be the reality that faces us all.
That is lifted directly from the Indian classic Mundaka Upanishad verse 1.2.8 8. Being in the midst of ignorance and thinking in their own minds that they are intelligent and learned, the ignorant wander, afflicted with troubles, like the blind led by the blind.
@@saig2007 - I went and looked this up. This is the first I've ever heard about this. As far as I can tell, you are correct. Strange how I've never heard this before.
@@saig2007 both are used in very different contexts and address very different things. Also not many sanskrit writings be passed around by 1st century jews. Do you think "blind leading the blind" was coined by Indians lol?
You make the very, very big mistake of not writing the whole Chapter. Under what circumstances did Jesus say these words? What is the story about'? Matthew 15 is about Pharisees and teachers of the law challenging Jesus; 15 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!” 3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 “‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’” 10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.” 12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?” 13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” 15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.” 16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts-murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.” Isn't it clearly about teacher of the law who clearly don't understand the law? And how many people talk about the Bible and don't understand it?
My father used to read Bertrand Russell and listen to him on the BBC and would discuss it with me. I'd forgotten how lucky I was. Thanks dad.
Yes for sure
You really were!
My dad was my everything. I was born listening to the BBC.
I started reading Bertrand Russell's writings around 1981. I was still a believer in the concept of "god" but had abandoned organized religion several years earlier after learning about European history. Russell's writings convinced me that "god" as a concept was illogical which helped explain the harm done by religion.
My father died when I was 3 so I diacovered Rusell on my own and never have taken him for granted. How lucky I am. Thanks dad.
Wonderful, can't believe it's almost 97 years old and still feel so fresh and new.
I dont get when people say things like this. More often than not if it was relevant 10 years ago, 100 years ago, 1000, or 10000 it is still relevant today because we humans have been dealing with the same old shit here on the earth.
There is nothing new under the sun
@@DOMinatorxXx42I suspect because it is almost 100 years old we as humans would have moved past this topic/issue. That might explain the amazement of the age of this piece of information
@paulromanitan6031 Did you even read my comment? It's been the same shitshow on the earth for the last 6000 years at least.
How can we move past any issue when we keep doing the same thing over and over?
@@DOMinatorxXx42 sometimes people stumble across new pieces of content and then find it worthy to mention that they didnt know that piece was so old. It might be silly and naive but its also ignorant for you to make such a patronising comment as if everyone should be aware of the issues of humanity. And yes there are absolutely new things under the sun A.I and its impact on humanity for example. Youre not as smart as you think stay humble.
@@paulromanitan6031AI is a marketing gimmick created by tech giants to sell their product. All it is is scripts that take in information and possibilities and calculates the best decision based on the information we program into it. You think that really is going to have a major impact? If you're a lawyer then probably.
And the fact people aren't aware of the issues plaguing our species is the problem and why there is so much needless suffering in the world. How can people solve the issues we face if we don't know what they are and keep doing them.
Also I am smart because everyone is smart. Human beings are naturally intelligent, it's just a matter of how much you know and understand and I know and understand more about such topics than probably 95% of people alive today. Probably higher
"Fear is the parent of cruelty" Yes.
Actually fear leads to anger, anger leads to fear, and fear leads to cruelty. Some other philosopher, talked real funny.
double yes
Wherever there is fear one will find some belief to cling too.
fear can be useful . fear of punishment can deter criminals .
Absolutely in agreemeny with B.R.
As applicable today as back then, in fact he was brave to question religion almost 100 years ago.
It's been about 20 years since I voluntarily went to church. The day I walked away, I realized I should have done it sooner. A rational mind can't listen to the nonsense and changing of rules without frustration and eventually anger. Once out of that loop, the world opens up.
Nature and the way it works is infinitely more interesting.
John Rudy: I've a question for you, one that arises from a deep spiritual struggle that has not yet been settled within me. When you walked away from church and a belief in God, how were you able to jettison the fear of hell? It seems to be one of the foremost issues that keeps people from leaving the faith. The prospect that one will suffer in a lake of fire in eternal torment is a terrifying concept. For me, it is something that I cannot shirk. Yet, when I consider the concept of hell, I must conclude that it is used as a bludgeon to keep people in line and living in fear. How can a God that claims to be love use this kind of fear to control people?
@@darlenegriffith6186 going to church is a bonus if you don't have a relationship with God then you go there
@@darlenegriffith6186 As someone who recently deconverted, the fear of hell subsides the longer you are away from the church. Christianity uses the concept of hell very effectively for two things: forced conformity with the denomination (“don’t do anything we don’t like, or you’ll go to hell”) and instilling fear of separation from the church (“without us you’ll surely go to hell”).
My advice, if you’re looking to remove yourself from this ideology, is to look around you for evidence of hell. From there you can determine if the idea of hell that the church puts forth correlates with the evidence. If I was a betting man, I would bet that you’ll only find “evidence” from those who are trying to manipulate and control you through fear.
Removing oneself from years of religious indoctrination is scary, but getting out from under the crushing unsubstantiated fear of eternal torment is worth it. Stay strong and keep seeking truth
That's true. I think that is how you find the true religion, uncontaminated by human biases and attempts to control.
Your error was focusing on the "modern church organization" and not Christ.
Love that he doesn’t pull punches, or dance around trying not to insult someone - if he means to say that someone or something was “wicked”, he says “wicked”.
He uses logic to contradict common thought. Logic is a skill which is sadly neglected or ignored today. He does make a very important point here though which I believe is really the central issue and justification (if you call it that) for religion…fear. Wouldn’t it be nice if humans would stop letting fear be our primary motivation instead of love, fairness and compassion. His argument that we don’t need religion to be good is the point.
Wow you're easily impressed. Did you know that fire is hot?
Wicked actions only exist if there is a God. God defines good and evil. Atheists believe in nihilism, not metaphysical concepts like good and evil.
@@alliep8946 Fear deters crime. Stop speeding or get a ticket.
@@timopheim5479 Fear the heat or get 🔥 burned.
100 years has not aged this wonderful piece at all… As relevant today as ever.
Very true. Although, I must admit I am saddened somewhat that many still use the bad arguments he crushed a century ago.
[Is Bertrand Russell's "Why I am Not A Christian" Sound? No!]
ruclips.net/video/DJv3YYTAI5g/видео.html
[Bertrand Russell’s Flawed Argument against the Existence of God]
ruclips.net/video/MBSCEG5HChQ/видео.html
@@ngonyx5 Both videos basically hinge on the assumption that Russell didn't let the theists define god into existence so he must be wrong. The first video was the worst, that guy clearly didn't understand a lot of Russell's points related to what is good and the existence of Hell. Not to mention, disabling comments comes of as a little cowardly when discussing philosophical ideas. Classic church mentality, no Q&A segment after pronouncements are made, lol
@@MS-jp3op good response
No?
I just found this video in my RUclips feed and I'm fascinated with Bernard. I Dove right in to the life of this fascinating individual
PS this is incredibly clear audio for an almost century old recording. What a marvel to have public organisations like the BBC to preserve our cultures and histories.
What a shame they have taken it upon themselves to become political and woke. What was once a great institution has now been infected and destroyed by social justice warriors and neo communists.
I don’t think it’s actually his voice
Definitely not Russell; the tone is far more assertive and declamatory than Russell's natural voice and manner. I recognise the reader whose voice would also be familiar to other radio listeners of that time but I cannot yet identify who it was, possibly an actor from the 1960's
@@carollane8694 Wasn’t Russell a campaigner for social justice and admirer of Marx? Haven’t the BBC always been something of a well-meaning socialist organisation, since it started?
@@MrMusicbyMartin
Not entirely, it has been a tool of propaganda since its inception - and I mean that in a technical sense, not simply a derogatory one.
However, it did have a broad view up until its politicization in the 1980s and showed a range of views particularly in the 60s and 70s, but that was the era of post war consensus, so in all cases it reflected the political values of the time.
The same arguments 94 years ago that we still hear today, and 94 years from now it will still be the same.
And still no evidence.
Agreed, Russel argument are so solid against Christian religious beliefs to withstand the test of time. As long as the Bible, the faith, the second coming expectation remains unchanged so will be the validity of the arguments against it, for the next 94 million years.
...VERY SADLY...EFUCATION HOLTS US...AND I AM.A TEACHER.
@James Patrick ¿Misleading the masses? Leading the masses has become impossible, let alone misleading them. In my modest view, what western institutions and societies are doing right now is trying not to be trampled by the masses.
That’s because no one really knows the truth and no one ever will everything is based on theory and dogmatic beliefs about the beginning of the universe and the hereafter. How we came and where we’re going This question will never have a certified answer
I can't recall a better day in my life than the one i got myself free from my catholic education. Not being afraid of Death is the ultimate Freedom.
Catholics are afraid of death? Why do we accept martyrdom?
🤔👍A/M/E/N 😬😄😆
@@ericklluch6311
and women
amen
You don’t know what you’re missing out on without Jesus Christ dwelling within. 1 Timothy 3.16 God manifest in the flesh. Enjoy your short stay in his creation🙂. I’ll see you guys at the judgment hey we’ll see if you accepted or rejected his free gift of everlasting life.
His 'History of Western Philosophy' should be on every school curriculum. Not only is it the best introduction to philosophy ever read but it gently pushes you towards critical thinking. HOW to think, rather than WHAT to think. It's written beautifully also. :)
It's also beautifully written - it scans so much better.
@@jimmycricket7385 ...though grammatically incorrect... ;) :)
It is also an excellent guide to the history of Western life in general.
@@StarHuman-bi9lnthat’s true, but it’s not going anywhere either.
They don't look to the future because that would entail God. They don't believe in God means no future. The way life is now, is the result of when you take God out of the position where he belongs. At the top. Number One priority. Why? Because He is Sovereign over everything. He picks and chooses who gets what. When you leave it to man.... We tend to destroy and corrupt things, this is our nature. We come from the devil, whereas Jesus came from God. We are eternal beings in fleshly attire. Our hearts are deceitful. Our mind is a trap where the devil lies in wait. We have the Bible and we have the Lord. Without them, we are nothing. We can do nothing. We need Jesus more than we need air. God bless
It is a shame that I cannot subscribe to Betrand Russell's RUclips channel. What a mind. What an orator.
I love him.
What an old bag of wind. - "full of sound and fury, signifying. . . nothing." - on this subject. See my full comments supporting the non-rational, non-logical claims Russel makes, and my pointers to the good science, history, archaeology, astrophysics that all argue conclusively, rationally, for Jesus/Yeshua as God the Creator of the Universe.
@@gregrice1354 tRump is your old windbag, who really does signify nothing
@@gregrice1354
BS
Bertrand Russell doesn’t have a RUclips channel, but he’s opened his patreon patron benefits up to the general public. You can go to your public library and read every single thing he ever published, at no cost. Pretty cool guy. Who needs a stupid RUclips channel?
What a legend this dude. He would be so excited to know that nearly 100 years in the future, people would still listen to his speech on these advanced electronic machines interconnected all around the world
@@hkschubert9938 Nope.... still a legend. People still quote him and use his arguments to this day. And what is so bad about a dinosaur museum?
And perhaps also disappointed by the sloppy way in which this video is presented.
There doesn't seem to be enough respect in this upload for Bertrand Russell's demand that we consider THE FACTS. This video has been here for ten years and two days, and STILL the description doesn't acknowledge
(A) that the voice in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell
(B) that the accent of the speaker in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell
(C) that this recording obviously was made more recently than 1927
(D) that the photo used in the video is not of Russell's delivery of this speech
(E) that the microphone in the photo is of a design that came after the 1920s
(F) that Russell in the photo is many years older than he was in 1927 (the year in which he turned 55).
It's not hard to state that this is a recording of someone else reading the speech many years after 1927 and that the photo of Russell was taken long after 1927.
This is how Bertrand Russell really sounded in 1932, five years after 1927: ruclips.net/video/qvsPgCx-gMA/видео.html
ഒരുപക്ഷേ 1000 വർഷത്തിനുള്ളിൽ വരും ഭാവിയിൽ ആളുകൾ തലച്ചോറിന്റെ ആഴത്തിൽ ഘടിപ്പിച്ചിരിക്കുന്ന ബയോണിക് ചിപ്പുകൾ വഴി റസ്സലിന്റെ വീഡിയോകൾ കണ്ടേക്കാം.
@@smadaf ഈ ഓഡിയോ റെക്കോർഡിംഗ് സമകാലികമാണെന്ന് കുറച്ച് ബുദ്ധിയെങ്കിലും ഉള്ള ആർക്കും അറിയാം. .. അതുകൊണ്ട് അവർ അത് റസ്സലിന്റെ ശബ്ദമാണെന്ന് തെറ്റിദ്ധരിക്കില്ല.
@@smadaf I come to a conclusion instantaneously that Bertrand Russell was not exist!
Definitely concur. Thank you, professor, for your clarity and courage.
So eloquently, Said, one of the greatest monologues ever
"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
~Founding Father *Thomas Jefferson,* in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814
@@diazjesse97 Did any of your fellow fundie nutjobs found our SECULAR country?
Do tell...
@@diazjesse97 No, but I DO see the irony in modern American RW fundie nutjobs like YOU pretending that we were "Always a Christian Nation" while also hilariously claiming "Freemasons worshipped Satan!"
The irony is SO THICK, you can cut it with a ritualistic knife (made for human sacrifice...like that of Jesus himself).
I bet you don't even know why Freemasons and the like were called "Occultists" or "Satanists" by your Christian propagandists of old, do you?
Scared to LEARN now, are we?
Mmmmhhmmmmm......EXACTLY!
@@diazjesse97 Cool.
A) I (always) appreciate a conciliatory tone to neuter any animosity, which I mainly use as offense to maintain engagement as most opponents RUN when they see I know how to write and think and TRUTHBOMB.
B) The fact that you “don’t have a dog in this fight” really means nothing to the topic, except that you may be more brainwashed by centuries of Catholic bs about Freemasons or perhaps, "The NWO" conspiracy theories, etc.
C) Freemasons were a secular “cult of science” basically, born of the Enlightenment and designed to COUNTER centuries of superstitious nonsense sanctioned by the church. The Catholic church would love it if we never had an Enlightenment, but alas….the Dark Ages ended centuries ago, didn’t it? Lol!
D) The belief that they are “Satanists”, etc IS Christian propaganda..
I got more, but let’s just see how that lands with you. I don’t care if “Mr. Crowwwley” (que Ozzy Osborne…) was a Freemason, btw. There is no such thing as “Satanism” in the sense that Christians believe it. This is fairly easy to prove.
Your OG objection was a thinly-veiled attempt to dismiss a quote that was about the Separation of Church & State. It was a “Genetic Fallacy”, something Creationists and other fundie nutjobs are fond of using. It has NOTHING to do with the subject of the quote. Attacking the author of ANY quote is pathetically sophomoric as a "critique".
Perhaps you could offer a more thoughtful counter-argument instead of, “The guy who said that is fat AND ugly so, Mmmmtthhhh!”, which is how you sound to me.
Hahahahaha!
Like a child.
Most fundies are mentally like kids to me now (I’m 53 and a former Christian, raised Catholic) though so, ya know..
You're in a cult.
@@diazjesse97 Quick aside: Did old Ben Franklin discover electricity because "SATAN???" (Church Lady voice)
Gotta love that goofy Christian propaganda. Stay curious, bro.
@@diazjesse97 Then go back to the Dark Ages where you belong. Oh right, this tech we're using was PRAYED into existence, was it? Haha!
And you think all non cult members are delusional...
Hilarious.
I'm going to start a new tradition of listening to this every Christmas Eve
The 1905 essay paper by the famed British mathematician, philosopher and logician, Bertrand Russell, entitled “On Denoting” was described by one of his most notable contemporaneous colleagues, Frank P. Ramsey, as “that paradigm of philosophy”. Notwithstanding the fact that less than one percent of the populace would be able to even comprehend the essay, it is littered with spelling, grammar, punctuation, and syntactic errors, and contains at least a couple of flawed propositions. Even if the average person was able to grasp the principles presented in that paper, it would not make any tangible impact on the human condition. Currently, this planet of ours is doomed to devastation, due to moral decay and environmental degradation, and such overintellectualizing essay papers can do nothing to help improve our deeply harrowing, frightful, and lamentable predicament, especially those papers that deal with exceedingly-trivial subject matters, as does Russell’s paper (an argument for an acutely-abstruse concept in semantics). The fact that Russell’s aforementioned essay paper falls under the category of Philosophy of Language, and the fact that he was a highly-cultured peer of the House of Lords, in the parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, yet his own writings being composed using far-from-perfect English, serves only to prove my assertion that philosophy ought to be restricted to genuine members of the Holy Priesthood. Furthermore, that Bertrand was fully intoxicated with adharmic (leftist) ideologies and practices, including sexual licentiousness and socialism (even supporting Herr Adolf Hitler’s Nazism, to some extent) indicates that he was no lover of ACTUAL wisdom.
The fact that, after THOUSANDS of years following the publication of Plato’s “Republic”, not a single nation or country on this planet has thought it wise to accept Plato’s advice to promote a philosopher-king (“rāja-ṛṣi”, in Sanskrit) as the head of its social structure, more than adequately proves my previous assertions. Unfortunately, however, both Plato and his student, Aristotle, were themselves hardly paragons of virtue, since the former was an advocate of infanticide, whilst the latter favoured carnism (even stating that animal slaughter was mandatory).
To my knowledge, the only philosopher in the Western academic tradition who was truly wise was the German, Arthur Schopenhauer, because he espoused a reasonably accurate metaphysical position, and he adhered to the law (that is, the one and only law, known as “dharma” in Bhārata) to a larger degree than most other Westerners. Hopefully, someday, I will discover another philosopher without India to join Arthur!
Edit. Edit. Edit. 3 words max. Nobody listens after the first 2 anyway. @@ReverendDr.Thomas
@@elinannestad5320, kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
@@ReverendDr.Thomas got it, leftism is evil, which leads inevitably to perversion and moral decay. Hilarious. Unfortunately, Dharma has no real ethical meaning, it is just a reverence for tradition, that which has become accepted through habituation. All evils are permitted as long as they have been established by a power structure lost in the mists of time. Like all religion, it is merely a recipe for subjugation.
@@elinannestad5320, I am patiently awaiting your response to my question, SLAVE. ☝🏼
People calling Bertrand Russel stupid are the ones that already missed one little detail about what makes him smarter. He wouldn't hate someone because of their beliefs, he just stated why he doesn't believe.
The people did most likely not even click the little triangle to start the video. Most of the comments are void of even addressing the arguments Russell brought up by their very names nor could they repeat them in their own words. It is more a primitive emotional reflex to just post beneath a title of a video in the comment section. Even those people, who assert Russell's arguments to be shale or empty can't even repeat the arguments or content by their respective names. You can clearly see that the vaste majority of negative commentors use language not in the sense to engange or to think, but as handwave or insult noises like you trigger a dog to bark.
It is in my experience that most people who choose to attack these views are simply intimidated by them. If you don’t understand something attack it, kill it. How many times has that dynamic played out? I am soothed by listening to Russell here.
He is stupid because he has a serious flaw
1. He never established a better worldview, he only disproved the Christian worldview
2. Who created God would result in an infinite regression. We won't ever have today if it was infinite regression.
3. He never exactly thought about the people who should get justice, pol pot, Stalin, Hitler, including those who are pedo priests.
4. Very few crimes were done in the name of Christianity.
5. Thank people for telling everyone to read the Bible so literacy rates to skyrocket.
6. There are numerous sociological studies where intrinsic religiosity is extremely beneficial to society.
Russell was able to maintain a friendship with Wittgenstein despite his mysticism for a good while.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
What a wonderful speech, im glad i came across it.
There was a questionnaire asking, “What was your life-changing book?”
The best answer : “The Bible …. After reading it, I became an atheist.”
"The road to atheism is littered with Bibles that have been read from cover to cover." - Andrew Seidel
Leave it to the intellectuals who always try to define God with their limited intellectual capacities please mr. Intellectual Define how do you get something from nothing all you big Bangerz
@@DavidBrown-zs1ic : _ Oh, you suddenly start talking about causation, which is logically explained by science. How do you define “something” and “nothing”? (Q1)
Someone insists there's a turtle-like creature living billions of light years away from the earth, and that it controls everything happening in the universe. Do you believe him? (Q2)
@@Satans_lil_helper : But, you don’t have to read fairy tales to be logical.
@@DavidBrown-zs1icYou understand the mind of the creator of the cosmos? Teach me how, oh Master of the Universe. I'm not worthy! 😭
Geez. For 1927, this man is on fire with great and well organized reply to theism & many other topics. What a fine product of his spacetime-culture!
You must not read much history for if you did you would find the arguments over the articles of the U.S.Constitution impressive. Or the Magna Charter and a thousand writings in between.
@@marksmith9176
I totally appreciate and I understand your response. I understand that many important bodies of law and philosophy have been charted out before Russell ever lived.
A classic starting point would be the Code of Hammurabi and an end point could be this moment in spacetime-culture. As I reckon, it would take tens of thousands of hours studying these million points from Hammurabi to now. Bertrand Russell did it for his spacetime-culture, and the prize he obtained was a clear enough perspective on human thought that he could then teach to other people.
Both of your examples are excellent. I simply feel like I was sleeping on Bertrand Russell's work. He has such a well done, systematized manner of dealing with modern philosophy. He certainly missed out on contemporary issues, but he has a great knack for explaining all of philosophy up to the early 1950's. He's practically a talking textbook.
Also, I am very far from finished with my personal hobby of philosophy. I recently learned how Russell is one of the two founding members of analytic philosophy. This makes him possibly the greatest philosopher of the 20th century: the same century I, and likely you too, were born in.
Sorry don’t agree
Do you think they were less intelligent or philosophical in 1927? They were probably more so. They weren’t dumb down by the media and television
@@overtones450 Okay, no worry. If you like elaborating, then feel free to do so.
Excellent points and eloquently spoken. Thank you for finding and sharing this wisdom from Mr. Russell.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
@@ngonyx5Did you actually listen to the entire recording? Mr. Russell explains various rationales for being Christian and then in a clear and well reasoned manner explains why he does not accept them. You can disagree with what he says, but to call his statements “childish “ undermines your point more than his because anyone listening to this recording can hear Mr. Russell making logical arguments and backing them up with well thought out points.
In the end, he makes a strong case for questioning one’s Christian beliefs.
@@martinutr Oh yes I did, but could not find any redeeming things - I could listen to this a hundred times but I would only come to regret precious time wasted. 'childish' is an understatement, I should have said foolish.
For example Russell takes issue with Christ's words: 'Judge not lest you be judged'. Question is does Russell understand what this means? It's all very well raising straw men and displaying what some feel is a 'well reason argument' , when the simple reality is He really doesn't know or understand the meaning of what he is critiquing.
'anyone listening to this recording can hear Mr. Russell making logical arguments and backing them up with well thought out points.' Not true - Russell has been rebutted by many - I could sign post you to some, if you are really interested. Or better still, I could arrange to meet Christians in flesh and blood to iron out difficulties and clarify things, and hopefully snatch you from the clutches of deception masquerading as 'logical arguments'. He does sound like he's making profound arguments - but there really is nothing to all that. That is why he is subtly dangerous.
There is more to the world and to reality than what Mr Russell thinks.
Have a lovely weekend
[Is Bertrand Russell's "Why I am Not A Christian" Sound? No!]
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[Bertrand Russell’s Flawed Argument against the Existence of God]
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Wow, this is one of the better arguments I’ve ever heard. Especially given that it was recorded so very long ago.
It's not that long ago in the scheme of things really.
Nothing new under the sun , the more I read the more I realize they were not the 1 dimensional black and white photos but people just like us , just as lost as us searching for answers in the void
im not sure, im an atheist so all the part of god for sure, nothing new but narrated with an amazing voice and eloquence, but the arguments on christ... "well jesus said this on wich i agree with him but the christians dont act like that" how is that an argument on christ character? . Im sure he was a great mathematician.
@@melkicastillo3399 he was not attacking the character of Christ in that section, that was the part where he actually agreed with him. the comments on christians is just an aside. The attack comes after, where he talks about the cruelty of the concept of hell = Christ is cruel.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
~Lucius Annaeus Seneca
“But God chose what the world considers foolish to shame the wise. God chose what the world considers weak to shame the strong.”
1 Corinthians 1:27 CEB
@@El_Avalo God (The Christian one and ALL others) is IMAGINARY.
What part of that do you NOT understand, fundie?
Your beliefs are a SUPERSTITION that has no (*democratic!!) bearing on our SHARED reality.
You don’t need an ancient holy book full of moronic myths to tell you what is foolish and what isn’t, you only need the most basic critical thinking skills to unpack said superstition and PROVE IT.
If you can’t/won’t do that, then you are not arguing RATIONALLY, you're arguing from the perspective of a cult member.
And ANY cult will do…
Replace your quote with one from the Qu'ran, or the Bagavad Gita, or Dynanetics, or the Book of Mormon, etc...
Now what?
More Christianese or is there a working mind in there still somewhere? Let’s find out together, shall we?
Can your FRAGILE FAITH handle the pushback?
@@El_Avalo the Jewish gods are no more real than the Greek and Hindu gods
Seneca nailed it!
@@El_Avalo Paul simply ranting. That quote carries no logic. It's just a statement of personal conviction and cannot be defended logically as its "truth " rests on faith, not reason our evidence.
Proud to be an atheist. I made that decision at age 14, 1960.
2 years later I read Bertrand Russell's " Why I am Not a Christian",. I knew then I was not alone, nor wrong in my decision.
Same here! 1946-20?
@@poollife777 This is garbled grammar. Is English your 2nd language?
@@pm3302 Later in life 6 1/2 years into a marriage, two kids, my non religious wife was brainwashed by the Morman's. At 9 years I had enough. They destroyed my marriage, my life, and separated me from my kids when she took off out of state and it took me some time to find them. She has been married to four Mormons since, all three abused her mentally and physically. She is now in hiding in central Utah. My daughters are now adults and one is completely anti Morman and religions in general, the other is over it and separating herself from the Mormons , her husband has declared, after 18 years marriage and Mormon assault, he has had enough. About time.
Religion, in general, has completely fd up the world.
@@petertobin7163nobody cares about society’s ideas regarding the ‘objective’ standards of grammar. all that matters is can we understand his point? we can. therefore your point is childish.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
Perfect. If I needed arguments why I am not a Christian, this would be it. I will listen to more Bertrand Russell.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
[Is Bertrand Russell's "Why I am Not A Christian" Sound? No!]
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[Bertrand Russell’s Flawed Argument against the Existence of God]
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@@ngonyx5all religions exist in order to control and exploit the followers, people are enticed by the idea of immortality in a perfect world, terrified of going to hell, so they think twice about breaking the laws created by their masters. The only reason for the existence of Christianity is that the Romans knew that they couldn’t control the many lands that they occupied, so when they sawJesus Christ and his following they saw an opportunity to create a new religion that they could control and by making the headquarters of this new religion in Rome they could continue to extract wealth from the once occupied lands without needing to keep garrisons of soldiers there. Genius really. Perhaps Jesus was offered a deal, which he refused or maybe his elaborate execution was staged, it doesn’t matter now, the Romans achieved their objective and continue to milk the lands that they once occupied over a thousand years ago. One of the most enduring deceptions of all time.
Thing is, you should never need to argue why you're _not_ a Christian anyway. If anything, Christians need to argue why they _are_ Christian.
Have you seen his discussion with Copplestone...? his arguments are surprisingly poor .
I loved Russell from teenage onwards. What he says applies to all religions. So wonderful to hear this again in his own voice. I had only read it before. Rational and so clearly stated. Such a great thinker.
This isn't his voice tho, the quality is too good for 1927 and it doesn't sound anything like him, this is being read by a narrator. This is his actual voice, he had a great speaking voice full of gravitas.
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I'm pretty sure this is not his voice, there are some recordings that you can listen to.
From this speech, Bertrand Russell must have been an obnoxious asshole.
Renuka; He could not think way out of a paper bag. All he is doing is spewing psychobabble.
@@wrongfullyaccused7139 Why would he use psychobabble when discussing theological ontology? That has nothing to do with psychology or psychiatry? How would either subject be relevant for a thesis on deontological ethics? I watched and did not hear him do that at all? What phrase would you consider psychobabble? Please give an example?
As to claiming Bertrand Russell couldn't think his way out of a paper bag? lol You are talking about the Bertrand Russell who was one of the founders of analytical philosophy? The man considered to be the preeminent logician of the twentieth century? That Bertrand Russell? The Nobel prize winning Bertrand Russell? The Bertrand Russell that was a mentor to Wittgenstein?That one?
I think you just learned a new word and just wanted to use it but you should know what words mean first. Here let me help you so you don't look silly again -
Psychobabble
[ sahy-koh-bab-uhl ]
noun
writing or talk using jargon from psychiatry or psychotherapy without particular accuracy or relevance.
Bertrand Russell was an amazing intellectual. His words are as poetic as they are enlightening.
No he was an idiot
Says you?
I was with him until he spoke of Hitler. You never let the bullies win.
@@ABT212 He spoke of Hitler? In 1927?
@@Alsatiagent Russell lived to 1970. As an extremist pacifist, Russell wrote to Godfrey Carter that if Hitler invades Britain, they should not oppose him.
"I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion as organized in its churches has been and still is the principle enemy of moral progress in the world."
Truth
Atheistic communist states have killed millions upon millions.
@@djg585 LOL. There has never been a Communist state. Russia was a fascist state and not driven by atheism. The Nazis were Christian. The Holocause was the culmination of over a thousand years of antisemitism being preached from the pulpit. Pogroms against Jews had been happening for centuries. Without Christianity, anyisemitism doesn't even make sense. It's not atehists who call Jews "Christ killers." By the way, this would not cause your fairy to exist even if it was true, and just FYI, there has never been a religious theocracy that worked. The US works because it kicked religion out of the Government.
What is your yardstick for "progress"?
@@physiocrat7143 Why does there have to be a yardstick? I don't understand your question. You're asking what counts as "progress?" How about equal rights for women? Would that count as progress? The Bible says women are property7 who have to keep their mouths shut. Getting rid of slavery, was that progress? Christians supported slavery and accurately used the Bible to defend it. How about Scientific progress? Christians have fought every inch of scientific progress. They wouldn't even admit that the Earth went around the sun. Now they refuse to admit evolution is true, say COVID is made up and doctors are all liars, Global Warming is a liberal conspiracy, etc. We can also talk about lgbt people. Christianity has nothing but shame on that score. Marital rape is A-ok, though.
Can you think of a single social, scientific or moral progression that Christianity didn't resist? I can't.
Hmm. I’d like to know what BR’s idea of “moral progress” is and how he can purport to define what he evidently believes to be objectively moral. On what basis was his concept of morality objective?
This man was brilliant. I enjoyed his book, "the ABC's of Relativity"
The 1905 essay paper by the famed British mathematician, philosopher and logician, Bertrand Russell, entitled “On Denoting” was described by one of his most notable contemporaneous colleagues, Frank P. Ramsey, as “that paradigm of philosophy”. Notwithstanding the fact that less than one percent of the populace would be able to even comprehend the essay, it is littered with spelling, grammar, punctuation, and syntactic errors, and contains at least a couple of flawed propositions. Even if the average person was able to grasp the principles presented in that paper, it would not make any tangible impact on the human condition. Currently, this planet of ours is doomed to devastation, due to moral decay and environmental degradation, and such overintellectualizing essay papers can do nothing to help improve our deeply harrowing, frightful, and lamentable predicament, especially those papers that deal with exceedingly-trivial subject matters, as does Russell’s paper (an argument for an acutely-abstruse concept in semantics). The fact that Russell’s aforementioned essay paper falls under the category of Philosophy of Language, and the fact that he was a highly-cultured peer of the House of Lords, in the parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, yet his own writings being composed using far-from-perfect English, serves only to prove my assertion that philosophy ought to be restricted to genuine members of the Holy Priesthood. Furthermore, that Bertrand was fully intoxicated with adharmic (leftist) ideologies and practices, including sexual licentiousness and socialism (even supporting Herr Adolf Hitler’s Nazism, to some extent) indicates that he was no lover of ACTUAL wisdom.
The fact that, after THOUSANDS of years following the publication of Plato’s “Republic”, not a single nation or country on this planet has thought it wise to accept Plato’s advice to promote a philosopher-king (“rāja-ṛṣi”, in Sanskrit) as the head of its social structure, more than adequately proves my previous assertions. Unfortunately, however, both Plato and his student, Aristotle, were themselves hardly paragons of virtue, since the former was an advocate of infanticide, whilst the latter favoured carnism (even stating that animal slaughter was mandatory).
To my knowledge, the only philosopher in the Western academic tradition who was truly wise was the German, Arthur Schopenhauer, because he espoused a reasonably accurate metaphysical position, and he adhered to the law (that is, the one and only law, known as “dharma” in Bhārata) to a larger degree than most other Westerners. Hopefully, someday, I will discover another philosopher without India to join Arthur!
Still one of the best books on the subject. Russell and Einstein knew each other.
@smoothygroovyI don’t think you understand what atheists think about the creation of the universe, atheists don’t believe the universe came from nothing rather they just don’t believe that the universe was created by one of many gods humans have created throughout human history. We have our theories about it which come from reasonable logic instead of superstition created by Bronze Age peasants who barely understood anything about the universe and even the world for that matter.
I was brought up in a catholic family and was made to go to church every Sunday even though I didn’t want to go..I was also every 2 months taken to church on a Saturday night around 6pm for confession which frightened me to death as a child talking to a man in a box who’s face I couldn’t see , I just found the whole experience bizarre..It all seems so outdated to me and I choose not to bother with it now I’m older...
I thought the same thing.. priest in a box..
We were very Catholic. I went to school everyday and bibles school for 3 hours after school everyday.. alongside homework every evening for both.
I was always in trouble for asking very innocent questions. I truly just couldn't make sense of a lot of it.
Do as your told!! And nuns can be VERY mean. Very very mean. -wicked- one might say.
I decided around 4th grade I wasn't catholic/christian.
In my 40's and the story is still the same.
Spiritualality is one thing religion another. They can be braided but usually not so.
i grew up Southern Baptist, and my dad swore that the Church only adopted Confession as we know it in the MIddle Ages,as a way of keeping tabs on parishoners
Me too
This is a true gem! Amazing to hear this remarkable man expose religion in his own voice. His thinking and oratory is still as fresh today as it was a century ago.
There doesn't seem to be enough respect in this upload for Bertrand Russell's demand that we consider THE FACTS. This video has been here for ten years and two days, and STILL the description doesn't acknowledge
(A) that the voice in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell
(B) that the accent of the speaker in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell
(C) that this recording obviously was made more recently than 1927
(D) that the photo used in the video is not of Russell's delivery of this speech
(E) that the microphone in the photo is of a design that came after the 1920s
(F) that Russell in the photo is many years older than he was in 1927 (the year in which he turned 55).
It's not hard to state that this is a recording of someone else reading the speech many years after 1927 and that the photo of Russell was taken long after 1927.
This is how Bertrand Russell really sounded in 1932, five years after 1927: ruclips.net/video/qvsPgCx-gMA/видео.html
Just came across this while studying for my intro to philosophy class. Great listen.
I wish everyone would listen to this
"...the future that our intelligence can create..." Thank you Bertrand Russell. A wise man indeed.
philosophers are prophets
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Maybe that future is no so great as you think. How certain is it that we shall travel the Stars by of our invention? Our intellectual mistakes often lead us into blind allies.
Imagine if our intelligence was actually able to create a school curriculum that was not an indoctrination camp that opposes a population that’s strong in critical thinking skills.
A "FOOL" says in his heart, there is No God
Wisdom: Arguably one of the very best analytics, logician and philosopher. Especially in today's world....Bertrand William Russell thank you for igniting a spark.
He's not helpful
Kenyans emancipated
Arguably.
One of the most profoundly thought provoking and logical, if shocking , lecture on Christianity I have ever stumbled upon. Terrifyingly true to an open and rational mind.
There seems to be a continuous recycling the story of Jesus. Apon recent readings by myself I discovered the story has been told fo 1000's of years. For reference, I'm a long standing practicing Catholic.
Even more amazing that these truths were realized in the 1920s before we knew what we know now about evolution, our origins and our universe. Impressive intellect on this man.
The key here is rational. Belief is irrational but can be word-smithed to appear rational. If you believe in Santa Clause as an individual, seems irrational but harmless. If this grows into a religion, it can create irrational group behavior. Belief that a certain physical attribute either as an individual or group is irrational and can be much more harmful.
He's not wrong on many points. I have two major topics that he missed on, though:
-ultimate origin is a rather chicken or egg topic, and that's a boat all philosophies are in. Why did the big bang happen? Where did the matter and energy come from? Answering "it just is" sounds suspiciously like what a religious person might say of god. I reject Russell's arguement on that. I have no good answer, but neither does "science" (I hold a PhD in micro-paleontology, so I know a bit about the science). Pretending we "know truth" here is a religious move, and to say otherwise is sophistry.
-Russell keeps conflating "how" with "why" which may actually be the sin against the holy spirit. Why? Well, if I show you how to properly tighten and torque a nut onto a bolt, that's not the same as why. The existence of a bolt does not carry an imperative that it have a 70 ft lb nut torqued onto it. "Why" might be to secure your tire sufficiently to your car.
@@GenXdad everyone constructs someone or something that is beyond death, that will always be the ultimate relationship to the Devine, it’s the story being recycled not the being
As a Christian, I found some things he said to be brilliant and challenging.
I found other things to be a little hard to hear. Some issues he brought up are more complex than he made it seem.
But overall, I very much enjoyed the reading. Thank you for the challenge Bertrand Russell! We need more people like you!
This world needs more Christians like you...
‘A History of Western Philosophy’ should be on every bookshelf, Lord Russell has a knack for making the complex ideas of philosophy clearer to laymen like me. I read it when I was 22, newly graduated in the sciences but working in a bar and not motivated to seek a ‘profession’ or ‘career’. I became a teacher after reading his book - not a directly related choice but he changed my way of thinking. His logic seems faultless, and his understanding of psychology and the perception of things a revelation. His other writing taught me that an atheist can be moral and live a purposeful, meaningful life.
If you seek philosophical discussion online you will be offered Zizek or Jordan Peterson. I wonder how Russell would have addressed their overt Marxism (for the former) or the 400-year old idealism served up by Dr Peterson? Or what he would have thought of Derrida and Foucault? He didn’t appear to care for Hegel and had a grudging respect for Marx, so I suspect he would have taken them back to Plato’s cave to talk about shadows on the wall 😉
And further...what would he have thought of Christpher Hitchens
I wonder?
It’s a real shame, because Peterson is a pseudo-intellectual lightweight and doesn’t hold a candle to Hitchens or Russell.
"Dr." Peterson should be so lucky as to share a mention in this sentence with Lord Bert!
@@DanHarkins-jk9mi We can only truly appreciate greatness when it is contrasted with mundane dullness.
I am convinced that i have never met a christian. I have met many who claim to be.
So you’ve never met Jesus?
@@Dude0000 no. And Jesus was a jew, not a christian.
The last Christian died on the cross.
@@ejam1117 You are dismissing a straw man of your imagination as not being perfect is taken into account by the concept of sin. Why are so many atheists so dumb yet are so proud of their own self perceived intellects?
Rhetorical question, I have no evidence of your personal ontology. I do know based on your comments that you lack basic understanding of Christianity, though.
@@ejam1117Jesus was Christ, he was ethnically Jewish and upheld the laws of the second temple period, as the temple still stood while He was living - but what He preached was entirely antithetical to Judaism as it is known today. Being the Messiah, being the Son of God, being God in a triune Godhead etc. is antithetical to rabbinic or Talmudic Judaism.
On a technical note, I must say the audio quality for 1927 is amazing...
I concur.
Yes. Far too good.
Must be using a yeti mic 😂
It’s someone else reading his words
There doesn't seem to be enough respect in this upload for Bertrand Russell's demand that we consider THE FACTS. This video has been here for ten years and two days, and STILL the description doesn't acknowledge
(A) that the voice in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell
(B) that the accent of the speaker in this recording is not that of Bertrand Russell
(C) that this recording obviously was made more recently than 1927
(D) that the photo used in the video is not of Russell's delivery of this speech
(E) that the microphone in the photo is of a design that came after the 1920s
(F) that Russell in the photo is many years older than he was in 1927 (the year in which he turned 55).
It's not hard to state that this is a recording of someone else reading the speech many years after 1927 and that the photo of Russell was taken long after 1927.
This is how Bertrand Russell really sounded in 1932, five years after 1927: ruclips.net/video/qvsPgCx-gMA/видео.html
Everyone should read Bertrand Russell's book, "Why I Am Not a Christian". It is a breath of sanity and humanity in a world that still does not realize just how backward and ugly that it really has remained until this day.
Actually, everyone should read The Bible and The Book of Mormon - Another Testament of Jesus Christ, and seek to receive a witness from God that they are true (as I have ).😊
Plus it's funny!
@@Fred-mp1vf Everyone should read the christian bible, the book of Mormon and the Koran. It's the best way for people to realise what a load of bollocks they all are.
@@Fred-mp1vfHow did you determine it was God that was interacting with you?
@Fred-mp1vf fool, the book of mormon contradicts the Bible!!! Moroni comes from moron!!!
The company of Bertrand Russell is always fulfilling. The cogency of his arguments and the clarity of his expression are a source of great satisfaction.
This lecture is still relevant today. I agree with all of it.
I'll never forget the first time I read Unpopular Essays. Listening to him now fills me so many thoughts and emotions, given the present state of this world...
My mother had to work from the age 14. The only book she was allowed was the Bible. Once she was free of that she visited the public library twice a week. In the 1950s she discovered Bertrand Russell's work. Thanks to that I never got the full theist indoctrination and was never really convinced- all though I did try to believe when I had to swear an oath to join the Boy Scouts and felt guilty because I could not suspend disbelief. His argument is so clear and without malice. I enjoyed this very much.
“A good world needs knowledge, kindness, and courage. It does not need a regretful hankering after the past, or a fettering of the free intelligence, by the words uttered long ago by ignorant men.”
For the win
I credit Bertrand Russell with helping me to escape from evangelical brain-washing in my late teens. Reading "Why I'm not a Christian" was the tipping point that finally made me reject Christianity.
It was such a relief to be out from under the fear and guilt that were heaped upon us. The cruelty and inhumanity of Christians, with the constant threat of hellfire, was also a big factor leading to my being "aborted-again". One positive side effect has been a life-long immunity to religious nonsense. I now count myself as an anti-theist--an opponent to religion and the harm it causes.
The Fires Of Hell
Eternal Damnation
@@SuperGreatSphinx
Ancient myth. Nothing more.
@@SuperGreatSphinxAs Lord Russell said in the audio Fear is a fuel of religion. Remove fear from it and you free yourself from chains you've bounded yourself by believing mithologycal bulls*it. There is no Hell.
@@SuperGreatSphinx Typically ignorant and violent dimwitted Christian response. Dregs of humanity.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
“Conquer the world with intelligence” Absolutely profound.
The Nazis had very intelligent people in their ranks. Their intelligence almost conquered the world. Intelligence has committed some of the worst atrocities on people.
absolutely profane
" Conquer the world with Love" .
@@omnicromagnon3793 how can he 'profane' that which cannot be interacted with? , What's obscene is the fear you people are made to live with.
Unfortunately, Russell's extremely optimistic view on human progress and intelligence seems to be dented somewhat by disasters like climate change, and the existence of massive nuclear arsenals with the potential to destroy most of human civilization. It's starting to look like humans are morally flawed and stupid by nature after all. In 1927, the future looked really bright. Humans' impact on the environment wasn't really widely discussed or well understood, but everyone knew how much better standards of living were getting. And they've gotten far better yet, but now we know that can't last.
Now we need the people in power to apply our modern understanding of sustainability to our economic system, and we need the public to get on board. Predictably, the response is denial, resistance, and opposition. And that's not because of religion alone. It's also because of culture, powerful psychopaths who don't want the status quo to change, and basic human nature. But if we all still shared Russell's optimism, we could fix today's problems as well. The epidemic of hopelessness in the face of our ability to solve these problems may itself by the biggest problem.
Intelligent thoughts, ideas, opinions and theories expressed in a civil, honest, direct manner using correct, easy to understand language to convey a powerful and meaningful message- if you choose to agree. This is from the 1920s. In 2024, Humanity overall has lost its abilities to do any of this. Very sad. Thanks for posting. I appreciated this rare experience.
It's amazing to me, how many of his logical arguments made in this recording from 1927, came to my mind as a youth in the 1950s. I lost any belief in Christ about the same time I lost my belief in Santa, at about the age of 8. None of it made any sense to me and I could never understand those who were and are believers.
People's desperate need for lies can be quite alienating for a young mind waking early to the senses of logic. Irrational people fuel infantile depression in the brightest and most vulnerable.
I am born again and I can tell you without a doubt that the bible is true. If you honestly seek for God you will find him. When you pass into eternity I believe it will all be very clear to you how obvious that this was not an accident and that of course there is a Creator. Unfortunately at that point it will be too late. I do wish you well and hope you continue to search.
@@jtm7336 You wrote, "Unfortunately at that point it will be too late." No matter what else you say, I honestly can't listen well to you after trying to strike fear into your readers with those words. It's reprehensible, unChristian, and those words cannot be found in the bible. You are merely drawing your own conclusion to stress the negative outcome instead of sticking to hope. In other words, you've tainted all your hopeful sentiments like a bad apple spoils the whole damn bunch! Wake up and address the vid, which you fail to do whatsoever. I wish you well in that endeavor or whatever, but please stop spouting your conclusions even if you believe them. Thank you.
@@abeautifuldayful Have your little hissy fit, that is fine. I am telling you the truth and not candy coating it. If you pass into eternity without Jesus you will have no hope. Yes, that is biblical!
@@jtm7336 I'm not candy coating it either when I say to go screw yourself - somehow this very personal truth of my divine faith seems to be deleted everytime. Seems there is a disparity of faith in the algorithm.
So far my favorite line is something we say a hundred years later: " "the reason being to create the best universe, of course; although you would never think it to look at it." 😅😂
Amazing how accurate this all still is.
Read his essays on the future of education and propoganda. Gives one shivers in its accuracy
Excellent,Lord Russel for speaking the plain truth about the Christian state of mind.
He was a very tolerant person, and even campaigned for the decriminalisation of homosexuality. He was very ahead of his time for a Victorian.
Tolerant… don’t you mean tyrant
@@Trp44 ?
His marriages failed. Have to wonder if Bertrand was gay.
@@freyamckenzie5583 Of course, it couldn't have been the women, there had to be a problem with the dude.
@@Illlium, Four marriages.
I was raised Christian, which is why I’m not one now.
I AM who I AM!
Don’t worry, Hell is going to be filled with people with similar backgrounds, so you won’t be lonely.
@@edwardlandry1113i kiss men
Really showing that Christian love ^ psychopaths
seems that’s the story for many of us
This was brilliant! And VERY relevant to everything happening today! Thank you for posting!
Yes very brilliant. The breakdown of family and love, horrendous and inhumane lockdowns, the looming threat of a global one-world communist government and constant threat of censorship due to speaking the facts. What a brilliant world it is without God! So intellectual and productive! So brilliant wow atheism and communism is so great!
Not really actually, at least with his arguments on science. They’re very dated, especially his statements on the beginnings of the universe and the laws of nature.
"And VERY relevant to everything happening today!" -- No. The religious fanatics making life a living hell in the U.S. today are not Christians or any of the traditional religions.
@@seanhoffmeyer442 not really. Dated in the sense that science has become even more evolved today then it was 100 years ago, but even with the limited understanding of the time, this 1927's argument still beats every Christian apologetics arguments I've encountered
@@seanmiller6583 Science has diverged from Russel’s view, not further evolved from it. The Big Bang Theory wasn’t well researched or accepted until decades after Russel recorded this, which renders several of his points moot, and the discovery of quantum mechanics (also decades later) breaks the concept of materialism (which Russel relies on) and suggests a transcendent consciousness outside the material universe (whether modern day materialists like to admit it or not). Experimental research in the past decade has only made this more clear. Check out Inspiring Philosophy’s channel, he has several series which summarize this research very well.
What a great thinker!!
They often say, "I'm not condemning you! God condemns you!
In this way a person who holds power over others can subject them to his own whims and blame them on a being who is unapproachable.
It's a simple way of doing to others exactly what you please and accepting no blame or consequence.
Yep. God is a useful tool for power hungry people, which is part of the reason religion has endured even though it's function of making sense the natural world has ceased.
right up there with all the times that, as a lesbian, i've been told "Love the sinner, hate the sin"
God is the judge. I'm just a part-time cop without a gun.
@@michaelschaefer1904 stay safe out there!
If a person thinks that God is "unapproachable," then they haven't made a sincere effort to approach Him.
Seek Him and you will find Him.
I wish I could express my thoughts on religion as precisely and eloquently as this
Cut the crap, friend
You'll have to do far better than this dead- eyed creature. Russell is an amateur. Terribly flawed information which causes his logic to turn on itself like a dog chasing its own tail. He has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to the Bible passages he attempts to interpret as if he is an authority on the subject. Far from it. What a little uniformed, lazy prig he really is.
Practice and I'm sure you will
@@eduardbenedic9844 study, study, study science and philosophy, learn to use language effectively, steel man your opponents positions, Ect and practice for a tumultuous lifetime...
Best wishes
"Some people mean no more by it (Christianity) than a person who attempts to live a good life." I wonder if atheist Bertrand Russell ever talked to a Christian and/or where is 'opinion'/s are founded on. From a non-academic point of view this 'lecture' is quite poor and surely arrogant. 'Why I do not think that Christ was the best and wisest of men although I grant him a very high degree of moral goodness.' Think about it, 'I, Bertrand Russel, grant Jesus...'.
This was very thought provoking, even for an atheist as myself. I know this is an old broadcast, but I've never heard this before. Brought the typical arguments of today into a better light, where one can actually understand. I have no doubt that every human being, at one time wondered if there was, or wasn't a higher being greater than ourselves. And the ones who got the attention likely were the ones who believed in a God. Doesn't surprise me human beings tended to drift towards the idea of someone looking over us, with our intentions, wants, and fears in their site, it's comforting, and it helps to escape the reality of life. As civilizations grew the governing body grew as well, which I'm sure the God believers were the governing body. And even before the many civilizations and tribes of the middle east, the native american tribes of the western hemisphere, or during biblical times. This discussion began as human beings were migrating out of Africa and deeper into Africa. These early humans communicated, and I believe communicated pretty well for what understanding they had of the world and things around them. It's just fascinating to try and imagine how human beings developed.
God has a social function even more important than the personal function for which an unkind deity serves equally well. As an undying source of authoritative theory and practices that support social production.
@Alabama Well said, may I suggest you replace "God" with deity.
There are ~7,200 identified deities mankind has\does believe in and that's ignoring the Hindus one million.
One step forward, two steps back.
As a child I found the idea of being watched over constantly absolutely terrifying. I remember that line in the prayer I was told to say every night "if I should die before I wake, I pray the Lord my soul shall take". Nice comforting thoughts for a 7yr old before they go to sleep.
@@TheSimidog Yup. It's an abusive relationship.
His ideas are as potent as they were then, as they are now. Thanks to the BBC for taking such dedication to care for this masterpiece; It is so relevant to our current state of affairs in these United States
You got that right. What a mess we are in.
wonderful recording full of possitivity for the human race without religion
we already had human race without religion..nazi germany and communist soviet union, todays china too
@@lawmaker22 The NAZI's had all kinds of religious support--especially from the catholic church and all in america who had their own NAZI party that were the beginnings of the Christian Identity movement. Racism and Christianity have always walked hand in hand.
@@jeremyserwer2586 wow total nonsense. I dont care about christians sects, probably there are all kind of morons there. But i do care about Catholic Church. Nazis hated catholic church and in numerous ocasions noted her as an enemy. Pope Pius XII saved thousands of jews, prooved by thousands of documents. After war Golda Meir thanked him a lot. Chief rabbin of Rome converted to catholicism because of Pope Pius XII. Racism was never part of Church teachings, total opposite, Church was the first who condamned racism. For fuck sake, there are black cardinals for centuries in Church, Church condemned slavery first while your grandfathers had slaves. So go and educate yourself on Church before you say such a historical nonsense
@@lawmaker22 You are misinformed. Joseph Goebbels was ex-communicated by the Catholic Church. Not for being a senior Nazi but or marrying a divorced Protestant. Hitler was given public blessings on his birthday from priests in Nazi Germany. Devout Catholics in the South of Germany were the cruellest against Jews. The SS thought they were doing Gods work. It was written on their belt buckles. I did not know what a Jew was until I heard my Catholic friends say (from out of nowhere) horrible things about them.
@@Alsatiagent what is wrong what i said? Prove it.. you are misinformed.. Im talking about Church as institution. Ofcourse there was some individual cases of catholics being a nazis, that doesnt mean catholic church was nazi, use your logic, not even every german was nazi. i.pinimg.com/736x/76/78/0c/76780cd4dc3c18916bda83b3a8f1cae9.jpg
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I read his book of the same title decades ago and liked it very much. I have thoroughly enjoyed listening to his very eloquent speech even more though. He was brilliant.
you could just organize clips from this recording and play them as elegant responses to ninety percent of the apologetic arguments you still hear to this day.
Buit they are nor adequate. I recalled a debate he had with a Catholic historian of philosophy and his metaphysical arguments were rather convincing. But get on the topic of the Holocaust and he cannot persuade me that he has any answer to the question Why was Hitler wrong to kill the Jews? His morality rests ultimately on the back of a Victorian turtle.
@@JRobbySh If 'why was Hitler wrong to kill the Jews?' is a question with which you struggle, that is not a problem with Bertrand Russel.
Elegant only because you consider atheism elegant. It isn't. These arguments are trite and have been used long before Russell came along.
@@tatie7604 you mean when religious people burned and stoned people who disagreed with them?
@@tatie7604 what you said really makes no sense, atheism or anything non Christian or Catholic got people killed.
a gift to the world...truly a brave man that stood up to nonsense as one should if they value intellect, morality and/or integrity.
You know who else was brave? Jesus Christ dying for our sins.
@@yomomshouse100Yes Jesus died so his dad doesn’t have to torture us for breaking the rules he made and he knew we would break due to how he designed us to break them.
@@shroomer8294 God is perfect. Any being he creates with a free will to choose will by default not be perfect because they are not God. But anyone can get right with God through Jesus who God sent for us. So in reality we have free will and a choice that is love + DIGNITY so more than love i guess you are right.
@shroomer8294 Not only did god know that humans would break the rules he made, because he designed us, but because he is supposed to be all-knowing. That contradicts the existence of a free will. You can't have it both ways.
@@yomomshouse100 ure an idiot if you stand here and say the name jesus as if you knew he ever existed. We know so little of that hypothetical schizophrenic, we as in those who actually care about the truth, you on the other hand read second hand accounts of second hand acounts written centuries later, heavily edited on political whims and pseudopigraphied into contradictions beyond any consistency. I know how the bible was made, i know when the gospel were written, copied dossens more times, and how the copies were assembled, thats why i know they're not a reliable source of information. Blind fate is for fools, and i pity you and your children that you endeavor to blind just as you were blinded ur self!
Almost 100 years later. So much has changed. We’ve learned so much and yet… this truth is still truth.
Would you say his argument about beginnings, that there is no need nor evidence for there to be a beginning of the universe, holds up with the knowledge humanity has today
But it didn't change the mind of the Christians because they still believe in a invisible guy in the sky.
@@7vnYes since we still can’t explain what before big bang
@@林二郎-k5hMaybe there isn’t a “before.” If time started at the moment the Big Bang happened then using time as a measurement for the state of the universe pre-Big Bang doesn’t make sense.
The truth is not always apparent. As Trump''s spokesman once said, we are presenting alternate facts.
An unmatched summary. 1927? So it took 94 years to reach me. Had it been a quarter century, I would have been greatly obliged. But better late than never.
beachcomber2008; If you are 95 you haven't much time left. I would counsel you to accept Christ as your Saviour while you still have the opportunity. As of this day you are a foolish old man headed for the eternal lake of fire. If you are still alive and are reading this, I advise you to ask the Lord to grant you repentance and faith in Christ.
Not his fault you had to wait for RUclips. You could have found his book long ago! 🙂
@@nonreality4 Indeed.
@@beachcomber2008 😀 I'm glad you found him. Grab one of his books. Take what what grabs you and don't worry about what doesn't. It's all interesting!
@@nonreality1 I have had his "History of Western Civilisation" on my bookshelf since 1967. I had my own reasons for atheism and never met any connection with his reasons (that I was aware of) before this vid.
When i first read his book on that subject in the early 1970s that's when i stop believing, and i say, more people love Bertrand Russell than don't!
You wont love him on the other side if you both wind up in hell or the lake of fire repent while you have the chance
@@jeffbogue4748 living in fear Jeff ?
@@Nnomadd living in denial nomad?
@@jeffbogue4748 "living in denial nomad?" No, he's living in the real world...
@@minhearg8331 no hes living in the fake politicaly correct world where these idiots blame bush for huricanes tornados by the way who are you his boyfriend where and how did you get in to this conversation one sided as it has been
“Where there is evidence, no one speaks of “faith”. We do not speak of faith that two and two are four or that the Earth is round. We only speak of faith when we wish to substitute Emotion for Evidence.” - Bertrand Russell
I have never seen China. I have had many people tell me it exists, but I have no direct evidence of it's existence. I take it on FAITH that it exists .
@@philcorris5899 -- There is a night and day difference in believing China exists and that a specific 'god' exists. One has Real Evidence for it, that being China. That Evidence is "real" and good because it can be Tested and it's Falsifiable. Claims for 'gods' are to be believed with religious faith, which is nothing more than the Politically Correct way of calling it was it truly is = BLIND Faith. That is, the belief in something you Cannot See (hence the Blind Part) but you HOPE is true.
Bottom line is, Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence, of which religions provide ZERO. Because of that, religions survive on Blind Faith.
Honest question: Do you see the difference between a claim like "China is real" and "My specific god, whom I was born into, is real"?
@@MasterSpade I understand what you are saying, however until you go and see China for yourself, you are simply taking someone else's word that it exists. That is faith of a sort.
Questioning the reality of China is of course an extreme example of things we take 'On Faith'
@@philcorris5899 -- I understand what you are saying too. But believing that a place like "China" exists has nothing to do with faith. It's more about the "Confidence" of it being real. Faith and having Confidence in something are 2 very different things, especially when speaking of Religious Faith/Blind Faith.
Having "faith" in something, is when there is No Real Evidence. While having Confidence in something is based more on past Real Events and real evidence.
Example: If you meet a stranger and he asks you to let him borrow $10K, do you lend it to him? If you do, it would be on Blind Faith that he would pay you back.
However if you lend him $10 and he pays you back before he said he would, you start building Confidence in him based on Actual Events (him paying you back). Then after some time you become best friends and you let him borrow, $100, he pays you back. Then $1K, he pays you back. Your Confidence in him is rising. Then you lend him $5k, he pays you back. Then he asks you for that $10K loan... do you let him borrow the money? If yes, it is no longer based on Blind Faith, but on the Confidence that you have in him based on those actual events (Real Evidence) that he has always paid you back. Now, you cannot be 100% sure that he WILL pay you back, but at this point it's the Confidence that was built up on past real events.
So Blind Faith/religious faith = No Real Evidence. Based on something you cannot see, but you Hope is true.
Confidence = Based on Actual Real Evidence of past events. Because of that, you have a feeling/belief you can trust.
See the difference?
@@MasterSpade I would respectfully disagree that true faith is blind and not based on evidence.
Hebrews 11:1 clearly states in the King James Version “faith is the substance of things hoped for, ->the evidencea confidence, Of facts
A brilliant video. Consequential even today. Well thought out intelligentLy spoken and reasoned dispassionately.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
- Epicurus
Christ took all sins upon him and has defeated sins.
@@nirmaljose7763 The Christ myth is a “Human Sacrifice that worked” for the faithful. Nothing more. It’s an ANCIENT archetype of martyrdom based on sacrificing animals to the gods. The fact that Christians can’t/won’t see this simple facet of their faith is part of the problem and why this superstition persists.
You can’t MURDER someone or RAPE someone and just “ask Jesus to forgive you”, thus making it “all better”. Life and JUSTICE does NOT WORK THAT WAY.
Start there or go back to your fairy tales. This is the real world where your religion get SCRUTINIZED properly.
Former Christian here, btw…
@@nirmaljose7763 so why is there sin right now?
Because we as humans have "free will" (allowed by God"} It is "man" that is evil not God. God allows man to do evil to one another!!
@@DW_Kiwi “Free will” is an EASILY debunked Christian propaganda tool designed to keep YOU, the faithful, from thinking too hard about this stuff. I can prove this if you engage with me, and yes, I see you’re attempting to answer someone else here. Not wasting time debunking that gem without your curiosity….which is precisely why Christianity thrives in America.
We’re not a terribly curious or bright country…
Do you even realize that you just ignored the quote completely with “God allows man to do evil”. To reiterate Epicurus, “then why call him God”?! What good can belief in any "gawds" possibly offer our way of life if he “allows” these injustices and the only way to appeal to his “mercy” is your piety?
Do the parents of dead cancer kids not pray hard enough for him? How about mass shooting victims’ families, same deal? Meanwhile RW Christianity in America stunts REAL debate on gun control (AND cancer-curing research via stem cells, etc) in the name of useless “Thoughts & prayers” and/or “religious liberty”.
Theism is demonstrably dumb…
Respect to the BBC for airing this.
Of course they aired it?
I read this text two years ago. Amazing to hear it.
This is a great talk for those wanting to become a Christian. As Kreeft says “One could almost construct a theology from the writings of great atheists. The god who is not there is sometimes clearer than the god who is.”
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" 1 Cor 2:14.
IT IS THE 21st CENTURY - AND STILL, MUCH OF THE WORLD IS ENSLAVED BY SUPERSTITION...
ALL RELIGION IS SUPERSTITION - SO OFTEN LEADING TO - DELUSION - VIOLENCE - MADNESS - AND MURDER.
@@Braddha Violence and murder and theft are caused by selfishness and self-centredness. In other words, sins are caused by the foundational sin of self. The gospel of Jesus Christ is about bringing people to death of self and alive to God, by the power of the Holy Spirit. And so the word "gospel" means "good news".
And how did the writer know that?
@@Geoffzilla He discerned it spiritually, as his words indicate.
@@lawrence1318 so, he didn't know. He just guessed. It's just his opinion. I see.
A Christian: One who holds the belief that God became his own son in order to sacrifice himself to himself to fulfill a law that he created and had prior knowledge of.
A Christian: One who beliefs that zombie Jesus will return one day to judge the living and the dead.
A Christian: One who believes that man was created out of clay; and women out of his rib.
A Christian: One who believes that the creator can use telepathic means to read your thoughts and condemn you of thought crimes.
as a metaphor though its really quite an interesting illustration of consciousness considering its self
I have listened patiently to B Russell...To my mild surprise I can say that I thoroughly agree with everything he says...Thank you B...
Then you end up in hell with him.
Atheists often worship their intellects.
Faith is a wonderful gift.
I'm surprised anyone would publish such a weak argument against Christianity! Reading the comments to this audio, I am amazed how so many people are mesmerised by Russell's childish and superficial reasons/arguments. The whole thing just sounded like a lot of petty ridicule against Christianity with nothing solid to back it up. Lots of 'straw men - and then argues against them as if he is making a profound statement or revelation. I expected Russell to have a much better grasp of Christianity, given the context in which he was raised. This is really not a great post. The reader was good and articulate - but the content is shockingly poor. I can't believe some people think Russell gives them intellectual ammunition why the are not Christians. Russell gives you paper planes and straw swords and water pistols to fight with. Don't waste your time on this Russell garbage masquerading as profound thought! Unfortunately, because of Bertrand Russell's reputation as a man of genius, and his way with words, many people will readily swallow this kind of stuff from him. Waste of time!
What a magnificent man, what a wonderful thinker.. Every word as relevant today asit was then. When will we ever learn.
I felt like struck by thunder when I first read this over a quarter century ago, and the sensation still remains the same.
Struck by thunder? Please explain...
@ktl4539 no…
Excellent book. One of the first books I read when I set out on my journey to Freedom from Religion.
In your own words, define “RELIGION”. ☝️🤔☝️
...curious comment. You wanted to be free of religion but you needed to read somebody else's reasoning to convince yourself. Not much faith in your own thinking capacity. And it was only the first book ?? The other problem is your ultimate conclusion has only a 50/50 chance of being right. It seems you spent a lot of useless time for a 50/50 proposition...You don't sound very selective on how you use your time...
Whenever I read his books I was amazed by their clarity. But now that I've actually heard him speak for the first time I'm even more amazed
It's good to have a few sane people to remind us what sanity is, or was.
The Miracle of the Atom
The Laws of physics that exist are due to the activity within the atom, which is finely tuned in order for us to exist and as we know atoms are required for life. The main energy level occupied by an electron during orbit is dictated by its fixed distance from the nucleus of the atom. This is relative to electron and proton attraction. There are constants within the atom, like the size of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the protons relative to each other. All orbitals that have the same value “N” being the main energy level relates to the quantum number and are said to share the same shell level. Protons are subatomic particles which are charged in relation to the nucleus, electrons are attracted towards them because they have opposite electrical charges; this fine tuning keeps them in orbit around the nucleus making the development of life possible as we know it. The atom is a miracle of design not an accident waiting to happen. Everything is made up of atoms which are finely tuned for the building blocks of life and also they create the environment necessary for the existence of life. The conditions on our own earth in particular are finely tuned being described as biophilic in which life as we know it can flourish.
If any of the fundamental constants like the speed of light or the strength of gravity were to change just a little, then life as we know it would cease to exist. This realization has led some physicists to argue that our universe is intelligently designed, made especially for us, no accident waiting to happen. We live in a finely tuned universe perfectly primed in order to support life.
There is irreducible complexity within the atom never mine the cell as atoms make up cells and are responsible for life as we know it. Atoms are unique and their atomic number dictates what substance or chemical property they have. Carbon for instance has an atomic number of 6 positively charged protons in the nucleus. Atoms are essential building blocks of life, for example the body contains fat which is made up of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen atoms. Carbon atoms because of their unique make-up also bond strongly to other elements such as hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen because they have branches or rings of various sizes that contain thousands of atoms, carbon is quite accommodating with other substances. These have unique atomic numbers that make life possible. Atoms suffer from irreducible complexity because all the electrons, protons and neutrons must be present at the same time in a particular number and order, for the atom to function as a designated substance. This knowledge dispenses with the idea of mutations and natural selection relating to chemical interactions. Life on the earth is based on carbon chemistry. Carbon is used in organic matter such as our bodies for instance in order to maintain life. They silently carry out important chemical reactions within our bodies and they are essential to life on the earth. Carbon atoms make up the sun, stars, comets and the atmosphere of most planets. Carbon is found in coal, oil, diamonds and natural gas deposits. The atom is clearly designed and many physicists now recognise this, but they won’t use the word God or Creator, they would sooner believe aliens were responsible, but the question is then begged who made the aliens?
The term atom really means invisible unit or uncuttable, and for a long time it was thought that the atom could not be split, but when they did, it produced the atomic bomb. An infinite intelligence made the various atoms which are so small and are measured as being one tenth of a billionth of a metre across. They are so small that they cannot be seen under a powerful microscope. We are led to believe that all our sophisticated atoms are derived from an invented primordial complex soup of chemicals which then produced the first living cells. Remember each atom is unique due to its composition and arrangement of subatomic particles relative to the number of protons in the nucleus. This is no accident waiting to happen! A primordial soup is purely fictitious and based on fantasy and imagination because men do not want to retain God in their knowledge.
Jesus did not lie to us concerning him being the Son of God and the Saviour of the world. He said that men shall give an account for every idle word spoken, except they repent of their sins!
@@normanthrelfall2646He covered this in the book if you listen. 10:24
@@guitarizard You need an encounter with Jesus personally, that is your problem. I have had an intimate spiritual encounter with our Lord Jesus Christ and I encounter his presence every day. I walk in the the baptism of the Holy Spirit which is hard for you to understand at the moment. Jesus said every plant which my Heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted up, leave them alone, they be blind leaders of the blind and if the blind lead the blind both shall fall into the ditch. Jesus loves you! I wonder if you are a lost sheep that needs finding? If you are seek his faith through his loving words!
@@normanthrelfall2646 i don't need an imaginary friend
@@guitarizard Evolution is your imaginary friend!
Amazing how much of this still rings so true today.
Thank god his thoughts are more widespread now
than when he wrote them.
It gives one a little hope that
one day we will all be free
of the scourge of religious nonsense.
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL "Thank god..." I see what you did there lolol! But in all seriousness, I agree. It seems like we're finally moving slowly away from that religious thinking that has plagued society for millennia.
@@creamandcream9331 Only the last two to three millennia. Before that, what we would call religions were actually the nameless control systems of civilizations populated by bicameral minded people. A situation that persisted for seven millennia after agriculture triggered civilizations into existence ten millennia ago.
All this according to a theory I believe to be most likely and certainly the one with by far the most explanatory power.
See Julian Jaynes' great book,
"The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind"
for the details.
The magic aspect of religion is an obsolete artifact of cultural evolution. But there's more to religions than magic nonsense. Religions have had millennia to become extremely knowledgeable about and highly skilled in regard to the psychological/behavioral control of truly huge numbers of people.
Nothing to sneeze at.
@@creamandcream9331 to be however replaced by something worse… that to oppresses people in the name of money…
A much-needed talk in this current time when our world needs to face the challenges by reason not scapegoating to falsehoods!
And yet you put all your faith in science, because
@@republica843 why did god create Jupiter?
@republica
Because science works and makes accurate predictions of the natural universe. Considering virtually all specific religious/theological claims revolve around what happens after death they’ve been, and remain to be, unfalsifiable and purely speculative
@@loganleatherman7647 Not very acurate,.asumptions at best.
Because it is real and we can see it works?
I so wonder how this was received in 1927, considering all the shit and smears Monthy Python had to take after they made "Life of Brian" in 1979. I mean this was more than 50 years earlier!
It´s really pure enjoyment to listen to this man unfolding his arguments. And I now understand where Christopher Hitchens got his inspiration :)
The reaction the Life of Brian was mostly because it was seen as mocking Christ himself, which people took issue with. Intellectual discussions about the topic weren't a new thing even in 1927, and many people had been publicly atheist long before Russel.
this man was brilliant and in my opinion absolutely correct...he was way before his time!!!
Every time he says “fear” a bunch of times I expect him to say “fear will keep those systems in line, fear of this battle station”
Continue with the operation; you may fire when ready.
@@calvinmusquez9162 “Would you prefer a different target? Then NAME THE SYSTEM”
I thought I detected your foul stench the moment I walked on board.
As a woman I couldn't possibly believe. The burning of witches; the misogynistic text in the bible about women.
What you call misogynistic is out of context, and the burning of witches is a modern narrative that is very much exaggerated.
@@thedude9941 Tell that to a room full of reincarnated 'witches' .... they'll tear that comment to shreds! 😊
What a delightful lecture. I haven't been in a church now for half a century, except weddings and funerals. I understood when I was 8 there was no Santa Clause. When I was 10 I understood there was no god. The day before I turned 18 was the last time I let my mother drag me to church.
Santa Clause is real. The symbolism refers to the 'sanctus claustrum ' in the Centre of your brain. The chimney thing refers to your spine. The 12 days of Xmas are the 1 day each month that your cerebral fluid travels down and up your spine to wait in the 'sanctus claustrum' (for 3 days) before washing through the pineal gland (the gift) and round your brain. Neuroscientists have confirmed this. How the ancients knew this ?? The Vatican held 'the Chrism (oil) Mass' last easter . This is weird stuff and deeper and older than we know.
Is there a Star Maker? If so, could a Star Maker be The God?
@@patrickmccormack4318 i thought stars were just giant balls of burning gas and nuclear power
@@patrickmccormack4318 stars are made through nuclear fusion in massive cosmic gas clouds.
What a brilliant lecture/essay. I wish I had found it before I had nearly turned 50.
I would never call myself a Christian. I see it as a very evil and misguided thing to be. Some of the worst people I have ever met, called themselves Christians. I guess they thought they could get away from the karmic consequences of treating people any kind of way...because they were "saved", and because they believed what they thought of as the only right thing to believe, they would go to heaven regardless of what they did to others that they would not want others to do to them.
Susan, My thoughts exactly! It's amazing that 95% of all the self appointed 'Christians' I have met over the years were by far, the most nasty, judgemental, mean, narrow-minded arrogant people I have ever come across.
Why should an innocent man be tortured to death for my peccadillos ?
A brilliant mind!
I first read this essay in 1967 or 1968 and have not considered myself a Christian since then.
@Nathan Desta Correlation does not, ipso facto, imply causation. But existence implies the right to exist.
I kept forgetting it wasn't a lecture taking place in current times. Nothing has changed. Nothing ever will change.
Thank you for uploading this!!
I must admit that as a Christian, i encourage everyone of my fellow theists to take time listen and consider arguments from this man.
So if you are a Christian, how would you counter each of Russell's arguments? (I am an atheist of nearly 60 years standing and have never once met a believer who made any sense to me)
Hello. Yes, I'm a Christian, and throughout my 20 years of living as one I've never encountered a non-believer who has presented an argument that made me seriously consider denying my faith. I enjoy listening to people from both sides of the issue.
@@johncraske I would like to discuss the first cause argument if you like.
Neither of you are here to learn. Move along.
@@harrisonsamson It is one thing to believe that the universe was created by an invisible deity - quite another to have have convinced oneself that this alleged god takes a personal interest in you and wants your fascinating company forever.
Me? I've been an atheist for nearly 60 years (I'm now 79) and although I cannot rule out that some power source created a universe of at least 100 billion galaxies, I reject the idea that such a creator would take an interest in a not-very-intelligent species on a minor planet. In fact, I not only regard such a claim as to be massively egotistical, it's made worse because believers cannot produce a scrap of convincing evidence to show that their narcissistic beliefs are true..
No, when I die - and my death is getting ever closer - that will be the end of me forever. Not the most cheerful of thoughts, but it just happens to be the reality that faces us all.
"Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” - Jesus Matthew 15:14
That is lifted directly from the Indian classic Mundaka Upanishad verse 1.2.8
8. Being in the midst of ignorance and thinking in their own minds that they are intelligent and learned, the ignorant wander, afflicted with troubles, like the blind led by the blind.
@@saig2007 - I went and looked this up. This is the first I've ever heard about this. As far as I can tell, you are correct.
Strange how I've never heard this before.
@@saig2007 both are used in very different contexts and address very different things. Also not many sanskrit writings be passed around by 1st century jews. Do you think "blind leading the blind" was coined by Indians lol?
You make the very, very big mistake of not writing the whole Chapter. Under what circumstances did Jesus say these words? What is the story about'?
Matthew 15 is about Pharisees and teachers of the law challenging Jesus;
15 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”
3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’”
10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”
12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”
13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”
16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts-murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”
Isn't it clearly about teacher of the law who clearly don't understand the law?
And how many people talk about the Bible and don't understand it?
Fear always motivates humans more than reason.
Carrot =heaven and stick =hell is part of every religion. LOL
@Ellie Bradlee how is it different for a non-believers or people of other religions?
I say. No difference.