The second, "healthy" plant has more frequent and complex melodies. It seems like there is a lot less activity in the first plant, but the sensors also look to be different. What was the reasoning behind using two different types of sensors?
Deftreaktor great observations and great question. The toothless alligator clips were used on the injured plant because removing electrode pads from a plant with holes on its leaves would likely result in torn leaves. You can learn more about what tools I carry with me in this other video. ruclips.net/video/DcYDZStbOuI/видео.html
BTW, this is the EXACT reason I have been following the MIDI Sprout, because I am interested in possibly developing a smart technology that can warn farmers of declining plant vigor.
I would be careful with jumping to conclusions here. If I understand correctly then this device is only picking up one voltage. What you hear in this video is already aestheticised by pitch and melody quantizing, choice of instruments, effects, etc, etc - that's what the guy in the video is talking about when he says "harp and flute sound set". It is a free (i.e. arbitrary) musical interpretation of one single voltage source forced within a certain melodic grid (aka "scale", which ofc are human made conventions who are also pretty arbitrary from a plant's perspective, except for maybe some few intervals like octaves and fifths). It's a nice toy that puts out meditative drones or an interesting tool for sound design, but it is not a scientist in a box. I suspect that the empiric observational significance of this "sound set" audio output is close to nothing. To say something substantial about the state of your plants you'd have to look at patterns of the actual voltage signal from your plants and put that into context of the situation around them over a longer period of time. Listening to meditative tunes may help you to lighten up your mood while working, but MIDI sprout won't do the work for you. I'd be more interested in the controller abilities of this device. At least it seems to be more interactive than sending noise through a sample and hold module. But on the other hand: For that price I could get almost five dual sample and hold modules :D
Same plant signature, but very different emissions... the sick plant feels low in energy and the healthy plant emitted a much higher, lighter and joyful sound... amazing. I love, love, love this xxx
I cried when the second plant started “singing.” It’s vibrating love and I could feel it. That’s awesome you’re in Thailand.... I can’t wait to go back. I work on a farm here in southern California and I want to purchase a midi sprout to compare plants grown organically and the ones unfortunately grown with synthetic fertilizers/sprayed with pesticides...
Both plants are vibrant and strong and have beautiful songs. The sick plant does not have the same energy as the healthy plant. The sick plants melodies have a slower rate than the healthy plant which vibrates faster. Thank you.
healthier plant played in a more continuous flow. "un healthy" plant felt like it was struggling to produce sound, with many quiet pauses, as if to build the momentum to resonate. Bass notes in the healthy plant sounded soft and effortless, whereas in the unhealthy plant, they sounded heavy and blunt.
THANK YOU! I gotta get me one of those interfaces. SO COOL. And the super-remote location yields a very quality film. So righteous that you’d share this.
The first plant, presumably not the healthy one, sounded like it was conserving energy and trying perhaps to heal. What I find remarkable is that they both sounded beautiful and completely accepting of life, as well as its ending. It's like: do the best you can, for as long as you can.
The sick one has a longer wavelength means low frequency😢 this device is revolutionary. It can do a lots of things. I wish I had the money to buy but I have a lots of ideas where this can be used to make this world a better place.
I So appreciate hearing the plant side of our global family.🤗 I'm a musician and I've been waiting for this technology to come out. So fulfilling. Just like the musical chord that the insects, bullfrogs, planets, rainbows and our bodies emit, signature frequencies, right?
Very interesting! My indoor plants had spider mites . Wonder what that would have sounded like . These mites were microscopic. But I wonder if their movement would have effected the sounds . Wish this could cure pest ridden plants . 🤔
Just found your channel, loving the content so far, have been researching similar audio sampling and data gathering etc. Just wondering about EM interference and possible cross talk with the gear set up. Is there a way to isolate the system or use a granular live filtering system to ensure your not picking up side channel interference? Then again side channel vector effects may be relevant to the research as well.
Fascinating! How cool is this?!?! How does one learn more about integrating midi sounds into PlantWave? I know nothing about midi's but am very interested. Again this is amazing thanks so much for sharing!
@@andy6877 ...there are trillions of universes full of varying assortments of microbiological organisms in any given piece of picked fruit even when it is no longer on the plant and as that fruit decays vast amounts of other microbial strains come and go throughout the decaying process it is the living organisms that are decaying the structure of the fruit! ...so to be clear ...not only is nothing even close to dead in fact it would be quite the opposite! ...it would be like a massive party going on ...teaming with life of all sorts! ...given that I’d suggest there should be quite the symphony going on! ...in nature and as in the rest of the universe... nothing is dead ...just transformed!
“ZAO!” …So, I record Spirit messages, Speech… @ 0:58 on the video, sounds like a male entity says “ZAO!” Which means “Good morning” :D LOVE IT!! (Love listening to the singing plants too - )
Hi Will. The MIDI Sprout puts out both note and CC messages. The CC messages come out on CC80 and can be mapped within a Digital Audio Workstation (in our case, we use Ableton Live) in order to turn knobs on digital instruments and to change effects. In this case, I have it mapped to an arpeggiator and some reverb, which changes the pacing of the notes and adds depth to the texture.
You can use anything that takes MIDI. How exactly it will work with Reason is a great topic of discussion for our forum. Visit forum.midisprout.com today!
I love the idea of using plants to control midi, but i hate how almost every video pretends that the plant is more involved in the sounds than they really are. People are acting like this is the sound of plants but i feel like that’s giving the plant too much credit :p
The sick plant seems almost frantic and disjointed. It sounds like it is working really hard to heal, then forgets what it's doing, then attempts again in another spot. The healthy plant is more consistent, and does not seem frantic . . . almos instead like it's "jamming" right along with the earth around it.
Interesting observation. Both plants were playing a soundset that was limited to the same key. What is perceived as the root note can sometimes shift from plant to plant.
Great reference. I saw them live in 2003 and the bass made my cells bounce off eachother. SND opened and Manitoba (now Caribou) played the afterparty. Definitely an influence on how I have designed instruments. Somewhere between IDM and Eno is the zone.
all the audio-fx make it much harder to compare. what we are comparing are the melodic structures, right? a simple un-fxed sine tone would do best. of course it would sound much uglier - but that is not your point in this "scientific" excursions right?
s33k3r3000 the effects and arpeggiation are also controlled by the plant. The MIDI Sprout produces both note and CC messages, each controlled by variation of data over different resolutions of time. So, in this way, the effects are not distractions, but detail! Have another listen just to the effects and let us know what you hear.
but this is not a true representation of the signals coming from the plant. This video illustrates my point: watch?v=WN833bCXXJk we should hear a more chaotic like sound, a less pretty "meditationy" sound. This is too polished and convenient... ah...
Run13 Buddhabrot there are many ways of interpreting the data. We’ve found that by making the music more harmonious, people are able to spend more time listening and are able to tune into more of the changes / exchanges happening over time.
wonder if the healthy plant knows that the dying plant is food for it and all its neighbors.... wait a sec... this premise of assigning arbitrary musical instrument sounds is distracting to the notion of understanding electronic voltages in plants, and how midi commands work. Its just too many arbitrarily assigned variables. And a missed opportunity in not creating interesting, maybe multi-layered, meaningful relationships with our knowledge of plant life and the instrument/sound sources. I mean why not oboe and crunchy death-metal guitar samples?
I know it's been two years but this is new media art It's about creativity and exploring interesting concepts, it doesn't always need to be hard and scientific
The second, "healthy" plant has more frequent and complex melodies. It seems like there is a lot less activity in the first plant, but the sensors also look to be different. What was the reasoning behind using two different types of sensors?
Deftreaktor great observations and great question. The toothless alligator clips were used on the injured plant because removing electrode pads from a plant with holes on its leaves would likely result in torn leaves.
You can learn more about what tools I carry with me in this other video. ruclips.net/video/DcYDZStbOuI/видео.html
@@PlantWave I know it’s late but that’s very nice of you
@@PlantWave you were so thoughtful and kind to those plants🥺
You're full of it, LOL.
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BTW, this is the EXACT reason I have been following the MIDI Sprout, because I am interested in possibly developing a smart technology that can warn farmers of declining plant vigor.
Deftreaktor that is...interesting
I would be careful with jumping to conclusions here. If I understand correctly then this device is only picking up one voltage. What you hear in this video is already aestheticised by pitch and melody quantizing, choice of instruments, effects, etc, etc - that's what the guy in the video is talking about when he says "harp and flute sound set". It is a free (i.e. arbitrary) musical interpretation of one single voltage source forced within a certain melodic grid (aka "scale", which ofc are human made conventions who are also pretty arbitrary from a plant's perspective, except for maybe some few intervals like octaves and fifths). It's a nice toy that puts out meditative drones or an interesting tool for sound design, but it is not a scientist in a box. I suspect that the empiric observational significance of this "sound set" audio output is close to nothing. To say something substantial about the state of your plants you'd have to look at patterns of the actual voltage signal from your plants and put that into context of the situation around them over a longer period of time. Listening to meditative tunes may help you to lighten up your mood while working, but MIDI sprout won't do the work for you.
I'd be more interested in the controller abilities of this device. At least it seems to be more interactive than sending noise through a sample and hold module. But on the other hand: For that price I could get almost five dual sample and hold modules :D
cool but yea, how much even is one of these gimmicky boxes....?
300 dollars OK BYE
@@harrychrome844Wow. Thanks for the insight
Same plant signature, but very different emissions... the sick plant feels low in energy and the healthy plant emitted a much higher, lighter and joyful sound... amazing. I love, love, love this xxx
I cried when the second plant started “singing.” It’s vibrating love and I could feel it. That’s awesome you’re in Thailand.... I can’t wait to go back.
I work on a farm here in southern California and I want to purchase a midi sprout to compare plants grown organically and the ones unfortunately grown with synthetic fertilizers/sprayed with pesticides...
Both plants are vibrant and strong and have beautiful songs. The sick plant does not have the same energy as the healthy plant. The sick plants melodies have a slower rate than the healthy plant which vibrates faster. Thank you.
healthier plant played in a more continuous flow. "un healthy" plant felt like it was struggling to produce sound, with many quiet pauses, as if to build the momentum to resonate. Bass notes in the healthy plant sounded soft and effortless, whereas in the unhealthy plant, they sounded heavy and blunt.
This is so beautiful..it makes me cry with joy.
THANK YOU! I gotta get me one of those interfaces. SO COOL. And the super-remote location yields a very quality film. So righteous that you’d share this.
I'd like to hear what mushrooms sound like.. 🤔😁
Omfg 😲
They sound like an alien planet
MycoLyco has you covered on that front!
Go to tik tok
@@yukisnalda2268 YES PSILOCIBINS; especially !!!
I’m glad you visited my country .
The first plant, presumably not the healthy one, sounded like it was conserving energy and trying perhaps to heal. What I find remarkable is that they both sounded beautiful and completely accepting of life, as well as its ending. It's like: do the best you can, for as long as you can.
The first plant seemed like it’s energy was low. Almost gasping to put the energy out to sing. The second was energetic and really happy.
...Would be nice to hear just the energy without the reverb pr instrument noise,,,
YESSSSS
No, because the reverb makes it sound cool
Agreed
The sick one has a longer wavelength means low frequency😢 this device is revolutionary. It can do a lots of things. I wish I had the money to buy but I have a lots of ideas where this can be used to make this world a better place.
2:58 🎶 I'm sending *THE* Suduaya to listen to this. The man *is* nature 💖
All creation praises God! Wonderful.
2 Questions
1. Is there anywhere I can purchase these in a high quality audio format?
& 2. Would I have permission to resample it into music?
I So appreciate hearing the plant side of our global family.🤗 I'm a musician and I've been waiting for this technology to come out. So fulfilling. Just like the musical chord that the insects, bullfrogs, planets, rainbows and our bodies emit, signature frequencies, right?
It sounds like the electric impulses are fixed to a pentatonic scale, is there a way to make it possible in a 12 notes scale?
Very interesting! My indoor plants had spider mites . Wonder what that would have sounded like . These mites were microscopic. But I wonder if their movement would have effected the sounds . Wish this could cure pest ridden plants . 🤔
That is pretty cool I bet that the vibrations from the music also affect the electrical output of the plant...cool invention.
Very interesting video! Nature is the best artist anyway :-)
Just found your channel, loving the content so far, have been researching similar audio sampling and data gathering etc. Just wondering about EM interference and possible cross talk with the gear set up. Is there a way to isolate the system or use a granular live filtering system to ensure your not picking up side channel interference? Then again side channel vector effects may be relevant to the research as well.
this is so incredibly beautiful... what you are doing is so amazing, you give the plants a way to express themselves
Does MIDI Sprout work on plant roots?
This is so amazing. Love it!!
Why did he only chose 2 shitty plants?
Fascinating! How cool is this?!?! How does one learn more about integrating midi sounds into PlantWave? I know nothing about midi's but am very interested. Again this is amazing thanks so much for sharing!
Sick plant which has low vibration sounds sad and thrilling, simple melody repeats boredly.
Healthy plant sounds more lively and creative.
Can this be used to help with a plants watering schedule?
Can this also be tested on fruits that have been harvested and are sold in the market?
Dead plants don't give off electronic signals so it would be silent
@@andy6877 ...there are trillions of universes full of varying assortments of microbiological organisms in any given piece of picked fruit even when it is no longer on the plant and as that fruit decays vast amounts of other microbial strains come and go throughout the decaying process it is the living organisms that are decaying the structure of the fruit! ...so to be clear ...not only is nothing even close to dead in fact it would be quite the opposite! ...it would be like a massive party going on ...teaming with life of all sorts! ...given that I’d suggest there should be quite the symphony going on!
...in nature and as in the rest of the universe... nothing is dead ...just transformed!
So what I'm hearing is all the plant? Is there any added tones in the background?
One caught my attention at a point. Felt more understood than said. If you get what I mean
Thoose roots was cool. What kind of synth do you use on your computer? Sounds good.
“ZAO!” …So, I record Spirit messages, Speech… @ 0:58 on the video, sounds like a male entity says “ZAO!” Which means “Good morning” :D LOVE IT!! (Love listening to the singing plants too - )
where to buy this and how much? i need one today
Where can I buy this in Thailand?
How are you setting up the Sprout to modulate the arpeggiation and effects?
Hi Will. The MIDI Sprout puts out both note and CC messages. The CC messages come out on CC80 and can be mapped within a Digital Audio Workstation (in our case, we use Ableton Live) in order to turn knobs on digital instruments and to change effects. In this case, I have it mapped to an arpeggiator and some reverb, which changes the pacing of the notes and adds depth to the texture.
exciting. and can I use Reason with this as well ?
You can use anything that takes MIDI. How exactly it will work with Reason is a great topic of discussion for our forum. Visit forum.midisprout.com today!
Excellent. I will let you know how it goes :)
You should have someone sing to the plants in different styles and see how the plants respond to our music
Stunning
I love the idea of using plants to control midi, but i hate how almost every video pretends that the plant is more involved in the sounds than they really are. People are acting like this is the sound of plants but i feel like that’s giving the plant too much credit :p
What daw did you use? Is this on a modular setup like Mirack? What scales are used and can that be changed. Could I use this on an ipad with say AUM?
This was using Ableton Live. It was a long time ago but I believe it was in E
Is it possible to purchase somewhere separately the Mini Jack to 2x Crocodile Clips cable?
Adding these to our store v soon.
The naked MacBook on the rocks hurt my soul
The sick plant seems almost frantic and disjointed. It sounds like it is working really hard to heal, then forgets what it's doing, then attempts again in another spot. The healthy plant is more consistent, and does not seem frantic . . . almos instead like it's "jamming" right along with the earth around it.
Is Joe related to John Patitucci, the bass player, by chance?
Definitely soil washing away, at least the roots are helping a little. #savesoil
i have a bunch of content showing the difference of quality of music between GMO plants and organic
ruclips.net/video/pIkIj9l22-I/видео.html
Hey i wonder how a tree would sound, do it for me please
“Maybe by this little monster here” 😂😂😂😂
Do you make a product that energises the plant by battery and stimulates growth and maybe Repels bugs?
super rad!
Hey this is cool
The unhealthy sounded more minor.
Does intervals come into play here?
Interesting observation. Both plants were playing a soundset that was limited to the same key. What is perceived as the root note can sometimes shift from plant to plant.
Autechre?
Great reference. I saw them live in 2003 and the bass made my cells bounce off eachother. SND opened and Manitoba (now Caribou) played the afterparty. Definitely an influence on how I have designed instruments. Somewhere between IDM and Eno is the zone.
@@PlantWave That's great. Glad they were a reference. The sounds certainly remind me of Move of Ten and Oversteps era of Autechre.
Nice 💓
I feel like the plants in he outdoors ( wild) are more robust than house plants
This kind of product, why is never available easily on the market like we buy any music instruments.
It keeps selling out and it costs a lot to make enough to meet demand. Preorder at PlantWave.com
Sounds 80s
Terraria music
all the audio-fx make it much harder to compare. what we are comparing are the melodic structures, right? a simple un-fxed sine tone would do best. of course it would sound much uglier - but that is not your point in this "scientific" excursions right?
s33k3r3000 the effects and arpeggiation are also controlled by the plant. The MIDI Sprout produces both note and CC messages, each controlled by variation of data over different resolutions of time. So, in this way, the effects are not distractions, but detail! Have another listen just to the effects and let us know what you hear.
Patterns repeat.
So,…. no patterns.
😮😮😮😮✌✌✌✌💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Ke ostias es esto? Ke alguien m explike xfa estamos todo fumaus y keremos saber
but this is not a true representation of the signals coming from the plant. This video illustrates my point:
watch?v=WN833bCXXJk
we should hear a more chaotic like sound, a less pretty "meditationy" sound. This is too polished and convenient...
ah...
Run13 Buddhabrot there are many ways of interpreting the data. We’ve found that by making the music more harmonious, people are able to spend more time listening and are able to tune into more of the changes / exchanges happening over time.
wonder if the healthy plant knows that the dying plant is food for it and all its neighbors....
wait a sec... this premise of assigning arbitrary musical instrument sounds is distracting to the notion of understanding electronic voltages in plants, and how midi commands work. Its just too many arbitrarily assigned variables. And a missed opportunity in not creating interesting, maybe multi-layered, meaningful relationships with our knowledge of plant life and the instrument/sound sources. I mean why not oboe and crunchy death-metal guitar samples?
I know it's been two years but this is new media art
It's about creativity and exploring interesting concepts, it doesn't always need to be hard and scientific
why do you even get up in the morning buddy... life makes no sense anyway so why not just enjoy the cool stuff around us.
Granular af
I now look at these species as if they are a human. Come to think of it.......they have the same DNA as us.
I have a more advanced technology equipment to detect sick plants. Its called MY EYES!!! LOOK at the plant. Green= alive, Brown= dead. :p
😂😂🤣