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Wow, 5 years already? Congrats, everyone. I'm so glad you kept doing your thing and I get to see everyone doing what we all love and continue to watch you for.
You guys deserve millions of subs. I dont understand what's going on with all those Game Informer people that didn't follow you here. This channel is the Game Informer show on steroids.
Ben: "No one wanted this question, but I like it so we're doing it anyway." Then asks what 5 studios survive the snap. Janet suggests Naughty Dog and everyone gives her crap lol especially with Jacob saying that the 'legacy' staff are no longer at ND, but he suggests id and says "I'm thinking 90s id." Janet was spot on knowing she'd get crap.
I'm on team Janet when it comes to which developers who should be involved in shaping the future of games. Even if you don't want Naughty Dog you might want their multi-award winning and incredibly comprehensive accessibility features (I'd be interested to know how much of the budget for recent Sony AAA games was taken up by research, development and integration of those features. I bet it isn't an insignificant percentage.) I'm spanking my cats bottom as I type.
I would give most beautiful game to Dishonored. The hand painted textures and the art style that is just cartoonish enough to sell the magical realism makes it look incredible even today.
Oof hard disagree on Gris being just in the "beautiful game" category and not having much else going for it. The story moving her out of depression/grief was so incredibly moving and the movement to get through that story was so well done that the puzzle elements felt very intuitive, making that progress feel very natural and the growth that comes along with gaining color and new abilities just flow almost effortlessly. I don't know that I was going through depression when I was playing it, though I was struggling with my work, and it was such a phenomenal way to calm my mind and help myself through a bad week. I am ADORING Neva, it's a fantastic game so far, but idk. Gris is something special.
Pyre would be my pick, it’s beautiful visually and how cohesive the whole game is with its gameplay and music. The mysticism of that game oozes when you play it.
Gorogoa would be my pick, as its beauty is tied into gameplay too. +1 vote for Okami as well. Other games not mentioned: LocoRoco, Abzu, Virginia, The Procession to Calvary, The Unfinished Swan, Critters For Sale, Citizen Sleeper, Everything (if you went to the smallest possible scale), Braid, The Plucky Squire, Thumper, Gran Turismo 7 (night time tracks on PSVR2)
Neva's combat really isn't hitting for me. For the record, Gris has quietly superb gameplay in its platforming and puzzle design. Not having combat or death states is one of its strong points.
I turned off the health points and put it on story mode or whatever. It plays closer to Gris that way. Taking damage was massively disrupting the flow of the game for me, and hampering the experience vs what I got from Gris. Turning that off has significantly improved it. But agree. Gris is amazing.
So glad to see someone else big up Gris! Replaying it for the first time since launch the other day and I had forgotten how good the puzzle design is. It constantly introduces new ideas and things to do and moves through everything with such fluidity and grace. It’s kinda remarkable that it gets written off as just a pretty art game. Have only spent about an hour or so with Neva but it’s kinda lacklustre in comparison. Not only is the art appreciable worse (very digital looking compared to Gris beautiful hand drawn look) but replacing the unique puzzle elements with dull combat and baby’s first soulslike enemy encounters is so far off what i want from this studio. Here’s hoping it improves as I get further in
I thought it when i played it and i still think it now, Bioshock: Infinite is one of the most beautiful games ever made. I wonder if people would be hesitant to agree because that game has not held up to critical reevaluation. But i do genuinely think it's the prettiest top-to-bottom game I've played.
LIS is literally just the trolley problem, picking Chloe goes against the trolley problem and the whole point of the trolley problem is you simple don't choose, that's how you "beat" it. So every play through, Arcadia Bay gets saved. Hesitant about the new one cause personally can't stand Chloe anyway, was never keen on Max as a result of all that, disliked LIS2 a lot but adored every single moment of TC, TC was so freaking good and actually connected on a very deep level. So kinda 50/50 on this.
I'm gonna be honest, I really wish there was a little more warning about spoilers in the Life is Strange discussion. If you are gonna say you won't spoil anything, then don't talk about feelings on individual episodes of the game. If you're gonna give a warning to skip ahead, then say whatever you'd like to. But saying you won't give anything away, then giving the listener something to anticipate and when to anticipate it anyway is kinda lame. It's not a huge deal, but kinda bugged me.
Pro rules is the complete opposite of letting your kids win. The game has always had an algorithm where the person losing gives luck for losing players like a random block that gives a star out of nowhere lol. Pro always strategy for better or worse even letting players vote for mini games.
Hearing that Kyle would take photos of his settings before discovering copy and paste attributes made me scream in disgust. Also Leo sexualized animals about 4 times in this episode which is great to see
Love y'all, but you should stop apologizing for not having an opinion on whatever games showcase was missed. Every time theres a "reaction" stream, the same information gets shared on the podcast, and the opinions of video game podcasters are pretty much all the same.
1:16:37 i sound like an tech apologist but i always disagree on the Spotify is evil argument. ITS THE RECORD LABELS. they are the true evil here wtf, its very simple artist sign their life to them and then go complain to the 3rth party Spotify on their behalf why aren't they getting paid?. look at Spotify's numbers they pay all the money to the labels, and then the labels pay the artist... they are leaches at this point in the relationship. Wouldn't it be better if artist signed directly to Spotify cut the middle man and do direct business with the ones actually distributing their work (like it used to be when the labels got into power?, they signed with them because they needed them to distribute their work...) but the labels will never let that happened. BECAUSE THEY OWN SPOTIFY yeah guess who is really the devil in the shadows all along... fuck the record labels they should be allowed to fail long ago when social media took over culture, if you are a content creator you should hate them too because when they try and justify their existence by squeezing every penny out of artist work they harm you in the process by giving you strikes and so on. its them its their fault its because they are greedy and don't care about anything but money...
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I’m the dev of Echo Point Nova, huge thanks for all the praise!
it's so sick keep building on what you have
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(I tried to do a point echoing).
@@FBuildingPerhaps the most abstract RUclips comment I’ve seen, I like your style
Wow, 5 years already? Congrats, everyone. I'm so glad you kept doing your thing and I get to see everyone doing what we all love and continue to watch you for.
It has to be acknowledged-Kyle's mustache has been looking great lately.
You guys deserve millions of subs. I dont understand what's going on with all those Game Informer people that didn't follow you here. This channel is the Game Informer show on steroids.
Thanks. Any help spreading the word is appreciated!
Ben: "No one wanted this question, but I like it so we're doing it anyway." Then asks what 5 studios survive the snap.
Janet suggests Naughty Dog and everyone gives her crap lol especially with Jacob saying that the 'legacy' staff are no longer at ND, but he suggests id and says "I'm thinking 90s id." Janet was spot on knowing she'd get crap.
You guys are the best. Such awesome topics, variety, and unique perspectives. I'm so glad people are talking about Sly Cooper especially!
I'm on team Janet when it comes to which developers who should be involved in shaping the future of games. Even if you don't want Naughty Dog you might want their multi-award winning and incredibly comprehensive accessibility features (I'd be interested to know how much of the budget for recent Sony AAA games was taken up by research, development and integration of those features. I bet it isn't an insignificant percentage.) I'm spanking my cats bottom as I type.
I would give most beautiful game to Dishonored. The hand painted textures and the art style that is just cartoonish enough to sell the magical realism makes it look incredible even today.
good one, some incredible landscapes that look just like concept art
I love the way Dishonored looks.
Oof hard disagree on Gris being just in the "beautiful game" category and not having much else going for it. The story moving her out of depression/grief was so incredibly moving and the movement to get through that story was so well done that the puzzle elements felt very intuitive, making that progress feel very natural and the growth that comes along with gaining color and new abilities just flow almost effortlessly. I don't know that I was going through depression when I was playing it, though I was struggling with my work, and it was such a phenomenal way to calm my mind and help myself through a bad week. I am ADORING Neva, it's a fantastic game so far, but idk. Gris is something special.
Janet nailed it with Yoshi's Island being the most beautiful game. Timelessness is super important
Pyre would be my pick, it’s beautiful visually and how cohesive the whole game is with its gameplay and music. The mysticism of that game oozes when you play it.
The way "dangerously cheesy" hit Leo
THANK YOU Leo for that smart object import Photoshop tip, that drives me crazy
Kyle's answer about the Sprawl was dead on!!
Here I was thinking I was alone in equating that song to Dead Space!
@KyleHilliard omg, no you hit the bullseye on that one with me!
Hot take: the MK8 version of N64 Rainbow Road is one of the most beautiful (both aesthetically and artistically designed) stages ever made.
Gorogoa would be my pick, as its beauty is tied into gameplay too. +1 vote for Okami as well. Other games not mentioned: LocoRoco, Abzu, Virginia, The Procession to Calvary, The Unfinished Swan, Critters For Sale, Citizen Sleeper, Everything (if you went to the smallest possible scale), Braid, The Plucky Squire, Thumper, Gran Turismo 7 (night time tracks on PSVR2)
Gorogoa is a GREAT pick
Wind Waker is still one the most beautiful game imho
Got Quest 64 for my 14th birthday and finished it multiple times. I'm sure it doesn't age well, but I always remember it fondly.
Ben, great giggles after saying “TOAD”
Im so conditioned, i checked the timestamp when yall started thanking supporters. Lol. Thought i had skipped to the end.
I think Alice Madness Returns is beautiful for art style, and Dead Island 2 for realistic-ish graphics.
The Ratchet & Clank trilogy is the one of the goats
Neva's combat really isn't hitting for me. For the record, Gris has quietly superb gameplay in its platforming and puzzle design. Not having combat or death states is one of its strong points.
I turned off the health points and put it on story mode or whatever. It plays closer to Gris that way. Taking damage was massively disrupting the flow of the game for me, and hampering the experience vs what I got from Gris. Turning that off has significantly improved it. But agree. Gris is amazing.
So glad to see someone else big up Gris! Replaying it for the first time since launch the other day and I had forgotten how good the puzzle design is. It constantly introduces new ideas and things to do and moves through everything with such fluidity and grace. It’s kinda remarkable that it gets written off as just a pretty art game.
Have only spent about an hour or so with Neva but it’s kinda lacklustre in comparison. Not only is the art appreciable worse (very digital looking compared to Gris beautiful hand drawn look) but replacing the unique puzzle elements with dull combat and baby’s first soulslike enemy encounters is so far off what i want from this studio. Here’s hoping it improves as I get further in
@@infinitepest Yep, you said it perfectly. After completing the game my opinion is the same.
Minnmax vs EZA, trivia tower? Paul Giamatti we need you!
I thought it when i played it and i still think it now, Bioshock: Infinite is one of the most beautiful games ever made. I wonder if people would be hesitant to agree because that game has not held up to critical reevaluation. But i do genuinely think it's the prettiest top-to-bottom game I've played.
Whenever i think of Gears of war mad world comes to mind. And of course i dont want to set the world on fire for fallout 3.
My beautiful games: final fantasy x, final fantasy rebirth, arkanes Prey, metaphor, marvel v capcom 2 and resident evil remakes and village
A development studio worth saving is RGG studios. Responsible reusing of assets to consistently pump out awesome games.
I’m surprised no one mentioned a Final Fantasy game as one of the most beautiful.
I just ordered from uncommon goods like two weeks ago. Should have waited for the coupon code!
LIS is literally just the trolley problem, picking Chloe goes against the trolley problem and the whole point of the trolley problem is you simple don't choose, that's how you "beat" it. So every play through, Arcadia Bay gets saved.
Hesitant about the new one cause personally can't stand Chloe anyway, was never keen on Max as a result of all that, disliked LIS2 a lot but adored every single moment of TC, TC was so freaking good and actually connected on a very deep level.
So kinda 50/50 on this.
Save Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio, you monsters!
I was wondering if they'd talk about the huge game freak leak but i can see why they didn't
The Trine series is absolutely gorgeous.
Hope you talk about RetroRealms on the next episode.
Five studios to restore gaming in a better form:
Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio
Team Ninja
Capcom
From Software
Game Science
Ghost of Tsushima is at least top 3 most beautiful games ever made.
I'm gonna be honest, I really wish there was a little more warning about spoilers in the Life is Strange discussion. If you are gonna say you won't spoil anything, then don't talk about feelings on individual episodes of the game. If you're gonna give a warning to skip ahead, then say whatever you'd like to. But saying you won't give anything away, then giving the listener something to anticipate and when to anticipate it anyway is kinda lame. It's not a huge deal, but kinda bugged me.
nice!
Pro rules is the complete opposite of letting your kids win. The game has always had an algorithm where the person losing gives luck for losing players like a random block that gives a star out of nowhere lol. Pro always strategy for better or worse even letting players vote for mini games.
Hearing that Kyle would take photos of his settings before discovering copy and paste attributes made me scream in disgust. Also Leo sexualized animals about 4 times in this episode which is great to see
Love y'all, but you should stop apologizing for not having an opinion on whatever games showcase was missed. Every time theres a "reaction" stream, the same information gets shared on the podcast, and the opinions of video game podcasters are pretty much all the same.
Actually the developers did drop the ball with new Life is Strange. Just read the diary page about Chloe. It is practically offensive to the fans.
1:16:37 i sound like an tech apologist but i always disagree on the Spotify is evil argument. ITS THE RECORD LABELS. they are the true evil here wtf, its very simple artist sign their life to them and then go complain to the 3rth party Spotify on their behalf why aren't they getting paid?. look at Spotify's numbers they pay all the money to the labels, and then the labels pay the artist... they are leaches at this point in the relationship. Wouldn't it be better if artist signed directly to Spotify cut the middle man and do direct business with the ones actually distributing their work (like it used to be when the labels got into power?, they signed with them because they needed them to distribute their work...) but the labels will never let that happened. BECAUSE THEY OWN SPOTIFY yeah guess who is really the devil in the shadows all along... fuck the record labels they should be allowed to fail long ago when social media took over culture, if you are a content creator you should hate them too because when they try and justify their existence by squeezing every penny out of artist work they harm you in the process by giving you strikes and so on. its them its their fault its because they are greedy and don't care about anything but money...
I WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS SOLAR ASH SLANDER JACOB
Nope, nope. Use deodorant daily. Don't think about it just use it