Omg you just saved me so much aggravation. I couldn't figure out why after I changed out my cylinder the key wouldn't turn any lights or start my truck anymore. Not it all makes sense thanks a bunch.
Wow, I was having trouble installing a new ignition switch and could not get the gears to line up correctly. Your video of where you looked up the slot that holds the switch and line up the gears and them take a pic and put it into the lock hole to move to the correct location saved my ass. THANS A LOT. U DA MAN
Hey man, big thanks for this video. I watched 1AAuto’s video on the same topic which explained how to replace the ignition switch well, but ultimately ran into the same issue described in your video (2009 Silverado). This helped me get the key aligned properly so I could start my truck!
Thanks for putting this up. I'm working with a 2011 silverado & it dosen't have accessory position so this helped me get things lined up. I checked a 2008 I happened to have on the lot and it dosen't have accy. position either. I don't know which trucks do have the accessory position in counterclockwise position from lock but neither of these did.
So glad I watched this video even tho that switch wasn't my problem. Still helped me diagnose the problem and to get it fixed. Now I can go to work. Thanks alot for this video. Just subscribed
Awesome video thanks I’m also a municipality mechanic. I have to do this on my personal truck, can the switched be changed without pulling the lock cylinder if everything is lined up correctly ?
You should be able to change it without removing the lock cylinder. I just couldn’t get it lined up right so I found it easier to pull the cylinder out then I new it was in the right place. You could probably count the clicks on the switch knowing in advance so you can get it in the right place.
I Wonder... If the key is in the " on " position...and the Dash Lights Up, If You Remove the Black Ignition Switch...with the " Gear ". Can You just Turn the Gear... To a Position to Crank / and Start the Vehicle...???? Please Answer About This... Thanks, Bill, in Los Angeles... 10/15/23.
You can match the positions on the ignition switch and put the new switch in but you can’t move the key. The key just spins, there is no detent on the key so it’s hard to get it in the exact position it needs to be if anything is off. The key only stops in the the crank and accessory position and just freely turns in the middle. The ignition switch has no detent in the off position just accessory and on. So you can put it in the on position and make sure the new switch is in the on position then change them without moving the key. You can’t put the ignition switch in crank because it will turn back to on if you don’t hold it there and you won’t be able to put it in and hold the gear, It is under a spring load.
@@JasonTheMunicipalMechanicBut Your Explanation doesn't Cover What I Asked...please read it Again.... I just Wanted to know if the Black Plastic Ignition Switch, with the White Gear/ Function....is Capable of Starting the Car...by Turning the Gear, with the Key Turned to Crank...and the Dash Board Lit up..? Just Wondering..... Thanks, Bill.
Good video, making look easy. 03 Silverado cranks, no start. Is that the passlock 2 security module? Can mine be changed like this without replacing the whole cylinder housing so I don't have to take the steering wheel off? Thanks buddy. Rich C
Hello Richie, there could be a few different reasons why your truck is not starting, personally would make sure the fuel pump is working. I think the pass lock symbol will stay on on the dash if it’s activated. You can change the lock cylinder out without taking the wheel off. Here is a link to how to program the new lock cylinder. www.locksmithledger.com/keys-tools/article/10238356/general-motors-vehicles-equipped-with-passlock
have you ever had the security light stay on after changing the switch and never go off even when you do the 10 min x3 relearn any help would be appreciated thanks.
Hey buddy. Im having that problem. What a pain in the ass. What did you find out ? My truck was fine till some losers tried to steal it and tore up the ignition. Security seems locked on. Thanks
@megavoltelectrocycles it depends on the year but there are transponders in the key and a receiver that is in the column to pick up the key. If the security light stays on after you turn the key on and doesn’t go out your vehicle is in a security mode and will not start.
You might need to turn the piece inside back to the position it was in before you had to turn it back after you removed the lock cylinder. When your putting the lock cylinder in turn the key slightly to align it with the inner piece.
@@JasonTheMunicipalMechanic After many hours it turned out to be,, the lock plunger towards the leading tip. The spring under it was pushing it too far where it protruded out past the ramps angle. The fix was to trim that spring a few coils so contact would be on the ramp angle and slide right in.
My issue is my key will not turn any direction on my 2015. It appears to acknowledge the key is in as the time screen flips on but I cant turn the key to even try to start it. Steering wheel is locked and harsh wiggle doesnt release. Im thinking I need a new lock cylinder and new keys rather then the switch. Any thoughts?
Have you tried a lubricant in the lock cylinder to try and get the wafers to loosen up. I think your right about needing a new lock cylinder. If you can’t get the key to turn I don’t really know of any other way to get it out without drilling it out. It sounds like you tried to pull the wheel to take the pressure off the lock. Mine usually won’t turn and I need to jiggle the key to get it to turn.
@@JasonTheMunicipalMechanic yes I lubed jiggled and went nuts on it lol. Thank you for the input. I ordered the new lock cylinder. That will be the start of process of elimination and I will let you know how it goes. Seems to be the mist logical place to start at least.
@@garettstahl what did you end up doing to get the key to turn? I bought the part but in order to swap out i have to get it to the acc position or on and it just wont go over!!
If the ignition switch at times was hard to turn and no acsessrory postion ,you wouldt be able to reset Transmission Controle Module am i correct ? I have a 2007 Silvardo and have reverse no forward gears ..seen switch has recall and a bad short feom washer wiper fluid that actually damages an electrical board and wire harness .. headlights do flicker anyone know any more?
I wish I could see the peace so that I knew how far down you were going to tear this. I have a rusty lock that will not allow me to turn the drum because the Locking bar will not drop and there's no way to force it even if you have the right key. I need to figure out how to remove the housing that holds the lock.
There is no detent where the key is located to be off on the switch. So if you miss it by one tooth your going to have a hard time getting it right. I tried to just move it at first and i ended up doing this in the end. It might be more steps but I found it faster in the end.
Sorry I though you asked how to remove the lock. You need to remove the lock cylinder first then use a screw driver or something like it and turn the section that the lock cylinder goes into back to what would be the acc position. Put the ignition switch in and then put the lock cylinder back in. Then put back together.
I’m not sure how to get it to turn if the key won’t go into the lock cylinder. One of my trucks the key goes in but doesn’t like to turn unless I jiggle the key up and down while applying very light rotating pressure, then it will turn. If the key won’t go in your going to have to drill it out or something like that. You could try spraying some penetrating lube in there and see if it loosens up the wafer that’s sticking.
I don’t really know how to get the lock cylinder out if the key won’t turn. With out having the vehicle and messing around with it I’m not sure. I have a gmc that the key won’t normally just turn and I have to jiggle it while applying slight turning pressure and it will turn every time. You might be able to try that. I will shake the key a little up and down quickly in the directions of where the notches are cut for the tumblers while applying slight rotation pressure. So Basically when you put the key in shake it up and down along the flat part of the key. There might be a stuck wafer inside so a little lubricant might free it up to turn. In the end you might be able to force it with a screwdriver and replace the lock cylinder which you will probably need to change anyway. I would try shaking the key first.
It’s the same part number for the switch up to 2016. It looks like There are two different switches from 2014-2016 so you may have a different setup. But the part number from the 08 I installed it in is listed to 2016. I’m Sorry it didn’t help.
What this how fix things using someone that don't know what he doing either that why cars get screwed from that don't already know how to fix then can't start it anyway. It's not rocket science
I have no idea what your saying. I think your saying I don’t know what I’m doing and you might be right. I never felt like I needed to prove anything to anyone, But in the end I had a hurdle in the way and managed to figure it out and get it done with a lock cylinder that doesn’t do what it is supposed to do. The vehicle started just fine and has since the video was published. Thank you for watching I’ll be sure to check out your channel.
Omg you just saved me so much aggravation. I couldn't figure out why after I changed out my cylinder the key wouldn't turn any lights or start my truck anymore. Not it all makes sense thanks a bunch.
Wow, I was having trouble installing a new ignition switch and could not get the gears to line up correctly. Your video of where you looked up the slot that holds the switch and line up the gears and them take a pic and put it into the lock hole to move to the correct location saved my ass. THANS A LOT. U DA MAN
Thank you so much man!! Couldn’t have done it without you! Manually turning it with the pick was all it took
That year dont have acc in the backwards position. Good video
Hey man, big thanks for this video. I watched 1AAuto’s video on the same topic which explained how to replace the ignition switch well, but ultimately ran into the same issue described in your video (2009 Silverado). This helped me get the key aligned properly so I could start my truck!
Had the same problem on my 07 sierra glad i watched this video
No problem. I noticed a bunch of people were having the same problem and I thought I’d make a video of it.
Thanks for putting this up. I'm working with a 2011 silverado & it dosen't have accessory position so this helped me get things lined up. I checked a 2008 I happened to have on the lot and it dosen't have accy. position either. I don't know which trucks do have the accessory position in counterclockwise position from lock but neither of these did.
That’s the problem I had with mine too and was having trouble getting the switch timed right.
So glad I watched this video even tho that switch wasn't my problem. Still helped me diagnose the problem and to get it fixed. Now I can go to work. Thanks alot for this video. Just subscribed
I’m glad the video helped. Thank you for your support, I appreciate it.
Man I had this exact same issue. Thank you so much for this video. My key would not turn back to the accessory position.
I noticed that to be a common issue. Glad I could help.
Thank you so much this was truly helpful.
Hey alright thanks to video I was able to install a friend's new ignition switch. Thanks for the vid 👍
No problem. Sorry it was so shaky. I didn’t think it would be that bad when I was recording it and it was too late when I did.
All I can say is thank you sir
No problem. Glad I could help. Thank you for watching.
Awesome video thanks I’m also a municipality mechanic. I have to do this on my personal truck, can the switched be changed without pulling the lock cylinder if everything is lined up correctly ?
You should be able to change it without removing the lock cylinder. I just couldn’t get it lined up right so I found it easier to pull the cylinder out then I new it was in the right place. You could probably count the clicks on the switch knowing in advance so you can get it in the right place.
@@JasonTheMunicipalMechanic thanks, I just found your channel and subscribed . You got some really helpful vids
my guy you are a freaking G, got stranded at work because of this 🤦♂️
I Wonder... If the key is in the " on " position...and the Dash Lights Up, If You Remove the Black Ignition Switch...with the " Gear ". Can You just Turn the Gear... To a Position to Crank / and Start the Vehicle...???? Please Answer About This... Thanks, Bill, in Los Angeles... 10/15/23.
You can match the positions on the ignition switch and put the new switch in but you can’t move the key. The key just spins, there is no detent on the key so it’s hard to get it in the exact position it needs to be if anything is off. The key only stops in the the crank and accessory position and just freely turns in the middle. The ignition switch has no detent in the off position just accessory and on. So you can put it in the on position and make sure the new switch is in the on position then change them without moving the key. You can’t put the ignition switch in crank because it will turn back to on if you don’t hold it there and you won’t be able to put it in and hold the gear, It is under a spring load.
@@JasonTheMunicipalMechanicBut Your Explanation doesn't Cover What I Asked...please read it Again.... I just Wanted to know if the Black Plastic Ignition Switch, with the White Gear/ Function....is Capable of Starting the Car...by Turning the Gear, with the Key Turned to Crank...and the Dash Board Lit up..? Just Wondering..... Thanks, Bill.
@williamwatson5822 yes it should.
Good video, making look easy. 03 Silverado cranks, no start. Is that the passlock 2 security module? Can mine be changed like this without replacing the whole cylinder housing so I don't have to take the steering wheel off? Thanks buddy. Rich C
Hello Richie, there could be a few different reasons why your truck is not starting, personally would make sure the fuel pump is working. I think the pass lock symbol will stay on on the dash if it’s activated. You can change the lock cylinder out without taking the wheel off. Here is a link to how to program the new lock cylinder. www.locksmithledger.com/keys-tools/article/10238356/general-motors-vehicles-equipped-with-passlock
have you ever had the security light stay on after changing the switch and never go off even when you do the 10 min x3 relearn any help would be appreciated thanks.
Hey buddy. Im having that problem. What a pain in the ass. What did you find out ? My truck was fine till some losers tried to steal it and tore up the ignition. Security seems locked on. Thanks
@megavoltelectrocycles it depends on the year but there are transponders in the key and a receiver that is in the column to pick up the key. If the security light stays on after you turn the key on and doesn’t go out your vehicle is in a security mode and will not start.
Have a 2015. pulled out the lock cylinder as shown, now the reinstalling cylinder hits on something and is a 1/4 inch from going all the way in???
You might need to turn the piece inside back to the position it was in before you had to turn it back after you removed the lock cylinder. When your putting the lock cylinder in turn the key slightly to align it with the inner piece.
@@JasonTheMunicipalMechanic After many hours it turned out to be,, the lock plunger towards the leading tip. The spring under it was pushing it too far where it protruded out past the ramps angle. The fix was to trim that spring a few coils so contact would be on the ramp angle and slide right in.
Where are you located?
YEP! DAMN it
My issue is my key will not turn any direction on my 2015. It appears to acknowledge the key is in as the time screen flips on but I cant turn the key to even try to start it. Steering wheel is locked and harsh wiggle doesnt release. Im thinking I need a new lock cylinder and new keys rather then the switch. Any thoughts?
Have you tried a lubricant in the lock cylinder to try and get the wafers to loosen up. I think your right about needing a new lock cylinder. If you can’t get the key to turn I don’t really know of any other way to get it out without drilling it out. It sounds like you tried to pull the wheel to take the pressure off the lock. Mine usually won’t turn and I need to jiggle the key to get it to turn.
@@JasonTheMunicipalMechanic yes I lubed jiggled and went nuts on it lol. Thank you for the input. I ordered the new lock cylinder. That will be the start of process of elimination and I will let you know how it goes. Seems to be the mist logical place to start at least.
Same problem in my 2015, mine does have 280k miles though I got some good use out of it before this problem!!
@@garettstahl what did you end up doing to get the key to turn? I bought the part but in order to swap out i have to get it to the acc position or on and it just wont go over!!
If the ignition switch at times was hard to turn and no acsessrory postion ,you wouldt be able to reset Transmission Controle Module am i correct ? I have a 2007 Silvardo and have reverse no forward gears ..seen switch has recall and a bad short feom washer wiper fluid that actually damages an electrical board and wire harness .. headlights do flicker anyone know any more?
I wish I could see the peace so that I knew how far down you were going to tear this. I have a rusty lock that will not allow me to turn the drum because the Locking bar will not drop and there's no way to force it even if you have the right key. I need to figure out how to remove the housing that holds the lock.
FYI. You can turn the teeth on the new switch with your finger and match it with the old switch. There's no need to do all that other stuff.
There is no detent where the key is located to be off on the switch. So if you miss it by one tooth your going to have a hard time getting it right. I tried to just move it at first and i ended up doing this in the end. It might be more steps but I found it faster in the end.
What did you do or press to turn the key? You don’t show anything but move the camera around then just turn it!
I clearly tell you how to remove the lock at 11:22 minutes
Sorry I though you asked how to remove the lock. You need to remove the lock cylinder first then use a screw driver or something like it and turn the section that the lock cylinder goes into back to what would be the acc position. Put the ignition switch in and then put the lock cylinder back in. Then put back together.
@@JasonTheMunicipalMechanic my key doesn’t go all the way due to the pins that’s my problem
I’m not sure how to get it to turn if the key won’t go into the lock cylinder. One of my trucks the key goes in but doesn’t like to turn unless I jiggle the key up and down while applying very light rotating pressure, then it will turn. If the key won’t go in your going to have to drill it out or something like that. You could try spraying some penetrating lube in there and see if it loosens up the wafer that’s sticking.
What if my key won’t turn at all? The tabs will not be able to be depressed.
I don’t really know how to get the lock cylinder out if the key won’t turn. With out having the vehicle and messing around with it I’m not sure. I have a gmc that the key won’t normally just turn and I have to jiggle it while applying slight turning pressure and it will turn every time. You might be able to try that. I will shake the key a little up and down quickly in the directions of where the notches are cut for the tumblers while applying slight rotation pressure. So Basically when you put the key in shake it up and down along the flat part of the key. There might be a stuck wafer inside so a little lubricant might free it up to turn. In the end you might be able to force it with a screwdriver and replace the lock cylinder which you will probably need to change anyway. I would try shaking the key first.
There is NO ACCESSORY POSITION
If you would pull off those damn gloves you could remove the switch without a problem!
If I shut off the camera I would have been able to do it faster and easier also.
This video doesn't work for 2014 or newer.
It’s the same part number for the switch up to 2016. It looks like There are two different switches from 2014-2016 so you may have a different setup. But the part number from the 08 I installed it in is listed to 2016. I’m Sorry it didn’t help.
Yeah I need to remove the aluminum housing that holds that thing in place. Dratss another worthless video.
What this how fix things using someone that don't know what he doing either that why cars get screwed from that don't already know how to fix then can't start it anyway. It's not rocket science
I have no idea what your saying. I think your saying I don’t know what I’m doing and you might be right. I never felt like I needed to prove anything to anyone, But in the end I had a hurdle in the way and managed to figure it out and get it done with a lock cylinder that doesn’t do what it is supposed to do. The vehicle started just fine and has since the video was published. Thank you for watching I’ll be sure to check out your channel.
Writing a sentence that makes sense isn't rocket science either but looks like you're having issues with that so....... lol smh
Bill get off the comments section of RUclips if you can’t form a proper sentence.
I still can’t get it to work 🥹