It’s really simple - GW made more than people are willing to buy. So either it sits on shelves sucking up warehouse space and looks bad on their balance sheet / cash flow or they push it out as a marketing expense rather than have it sit or shipped somewhere else. Nothing altruistic about this, it’s pure financial self-interest on GWs part. Great for tournament goers though, happy for them.
Not to be too generous to GW (lmao) but if this was at all a pre planned strategy or one they're willing to look into more going forward than it's a win-win. It doesn't really matter if they can write it off as a marketing expense if players are still getting free boxes - at least, hoping it continues moving forward.
@@halflifeger4179 I think Skaventide was a success, but it hasn't sold out. Selling 90% of 100,000 copies is a success but that would still leave the other ten thousand filling up space in a warehouse. Giving them away makes sense. Also if some of those people then go and build Skaven or Stormcast armies, they'll more than make the money back.
They may have had unused marketing dollars allocated in their "Australia marketing budget" that they needed to use before the end of the fiscal year to maximize tax incentives and since the value of the box is so much higher in Australia, some accountant may have teamed up with the marketing decision on this one.
Imagine if you own a flgs and GW convinced you to load your store with tones of copies of skaventide. The release day comes and goes and the game bombs and you're still stuck with tones of copies of skaventide. And then 3 months after the release, GW suddenly floods the market with tones of free copies of skaventide driving the perceived value of the box down even further. That would probably make a business owner exit the gaming industry Kurt Cobain style.
Consideration both incidents are in Australia who is known for being massive upcharged for warhammer. I think GW saw sales for AOS in that region being very very low and instead of adjusting prices they gave away free product to try and hook more players in the region or hook players already in to start new factions.
As somebody who runs an after school club at a secondary school being sent one of these boxes would be bloody awesome!!!! Kids could work in teams to build, paint and then play AoS. The School Alliance isn’t very good. It’s free and I’m not knocking that. But kids can’t play a game of AoS of 40K with the contents of SA stuff. The paints you get with it is pitiful. All they can do is build and paint a Space Smurf and Orc thing. That’s it. They just hope that the parents will go out and buy stuff for the kids. Schools would love to receive a launch box that the kids can properly use and properly experience the world of Warhammer and the hobby that we love. Lost opportunity for a great bit of PR.
I'm in a similar situation and you are 💯 right. Often have to bring in my own models to demo a game. Getting your first model is cool and all but a lot of kids see that as the end point because they aren't getting proper games in.
Same. Luckily some very generous folks in the community game us some lovely donations and the kids love it - especially as they seem more interested in killing stuff than painting
Im typing this 3 weeks after the video was posted. I just found a local store in Spain doing a limited sale for a bunch of Skaventide boxes at 129 euros, which is almost a 40% discount. I'm new to the hobby, but this is the first time I see an official retailer doing such a great discount on any sealed GW product. Me and 3 other friends are JUST starting to get our first minis. They prefer 40k over AoS sadly, so we'll be getting and playing Combat Patrol first. However, I think I'm still going to buy the Skaventide box on the side lol. I feel like 129e is a great price for everything that comes in that beautiful box.
I was there for the oceanic championship tournament. It was a concurrent tournament for all the different systems and they gave away boxes for all of the different systems. So all the WHU players (me and seven others) got one. And I believe the 40k, AoS, Kill Team and Warcry players all got one too. So it was a lot more boxes than just twelve. None of us could quite believe we were getting the box until we had it in our hands. I suspect what happened was that in Australia they are not moving anywhere near as much as they thought they were. Considering its a 450AUD box and the economy here is... not great, that sounds like a reasonable explanation. And given the reputation Warhammer has in Australia (something that can genuinely financially devastate you), I wouldn't be shocked if the prices here have finally hit a breaking point that Aussies just can't stomach anymore.
I look forward to GW, once again, considering NZ part of Australia (for everything except pricing) and them not doing the same thing on this side of the ditch. Honestly, I'm actually surprised they were providing official support of any kind. I thought they'd long ago washed their hands of getting involved in events down this way. Or maybe that's just in NZ.
two things to keep in mind: 1. GW give things away to content creators, albeit they still get a form of advertisement out of it 2. Depending on local tax law, prizes are deductible
@@malcolmcurrie7542 very true. mine was mostly a flippant remark. as a fan of the brand since the early 90s it is so great to see this kind of engagement the company has with social media and such a difference since those times. i am absolutely stoked to see anyone receive these kits, especially folks spending time and funds to get to these events.
I am in China, and even with the downgrading of the economy, more and more people joined AoS, and there are many of them are from 40k. People have had enough with 40k now and they really love AoS.
@@PhantomSt4gg I feel like spearhead exceeds everyone's expectations especially in drawing players from other games such as 40k. AoS team really hit this one.
I was so bloody stoked! I'm going to the SydneyGT and that news blew me away. I've been a Warhammer fan for 28 years and GW have never done anything like this before. Can't wait for my free copy of Skaventide.
Probably simply the logistic and the repackaging of the Skaventide sprues cost more then selling them, so they just threw them away to some Australian event because In Australia GW miniatures cost more then in the other countries. Here in Italy we have good discounts (25% or 30%) so official stores went bad while independent stores went good.
@@thehonestwargamerstreams probably £85. As a Brit living in Aus I definitely make the most of any trips back with an extra suitcase of grey plastic. :)
I spoke with Coach this last weekend at an event, and he got more boxes than event attendees and is organising teachers to pick them up for school programs to make it accessible. I am attending and getting a box, and I plan to get a 40K friend into AoS with it.
I'm located in Germany and was surprised to see that my flgs has three Skaventide boxes left on the shelves although we do have a rather large AoS-community. On the other hand most (or even all?) people split their boxes so maybe that reduced the volume of sold boxes by some degree...
Australians pay ~30% more because their boxes are shipped from the other side of the world so there's freight + import tax on every product. Larger boxes are typically sent back from stores to be broken down and reboxed but I can totally see this being too expensive to justify for Skaventide if it had to go back to HQ, so it ends up cheaper to give them away for free/get some PR use from them as the alternative is to just bin them (which given the amount would probably incur some fines for waste)
As someone thinking to get into aos with skaventide in Australia. I can honestly say that I will not be spending more then 150aud on the box. If I can't find one that cheap then its not worth it for me to buy something that the company is giving away. Now if they gave it to struggling shops or schools and children programs, then it would be a completely different story. But I missed an event and also missed out on saving $350. It just doesn't feel right buying this product anymore
@@VeloVios but look at it the other way, people who go to tournaments who've no doubt spent tons of money areas and many hours painting and gaming are being rewarded for that, I don't see the issue. It's better than giving away copies to content creators when the online store is sold out - like we saw with 9th and 10th Ed 40k, cursed city, and many other products. Maybe go to gts in the future?
The reason for the pricing isnt shipping and tax. You can import the same boxes from the UK using a post forwarding service then pay import tax and still get it cheaper. 3rd party official retailer + 2x postage bills & 2x tax bills and its still cheaper than buying local. The reason it costs what it costs is because they decided it would cost more and then didn't change their minds cos ppl still buy. They are probably giving them away because they made them too expensive & dont want to pay to store them. I would have bought 2 boxes to use in old world if they had been closer to the UK price, but I'm not paying a grand for them
@@markysgeeklab8783 There's a lot more to consider for a company as large as GW than just the shipping/import fees - they have to build infrastructure, hire staff to run stores/warehouses/trade relations etc, which all costs more than doing it in the UK. Absolutely, there is an aspect that Australia is a generally higher cost of living place with a higher minimum wage and they price the products to match that, but they aren't gouging the Aus market like a lot of people claim. It's the same for any foreign import, GW aren't anything different in that regard. I looked it up and most post forwarding services are quoting about £90 for a skaventide box sized parcel so that's £250 before taxes, way more expensive than just buying it in Aus?
Main reason I didn't pick up Skaventide (well other than being broke due to health issues atm) is just... I like both Skaven and Stormcast, but neither are my primary thing by any stretch? And if I'm spending money on Warhammer atm it's going to be on my current army. The sculpts are honestly great; but what's an Idoneth player (me) gonna do with Stormcast and Skaven? < . .> If I had infinite time and money? Yeah I'd buy 2 boxes of Skaventide because I'd absolutely rock all those minis in their respective factions; they look great. I just... don't have infinite time or money so I can't. But then this is the same reason I didn't buy Leviathan for 40k - Yes it's a great deal if you're a Marine and Tyranid player, and a decently OK one if you play one of those... but I play Guard. So wtf do I need Marines and Nids for? Though at least in AoS I like almost every faction and could see playing them all at some point, time and money permitting. That's just my perspective on them anyway. I just feel like big vs boxes are of very niche interest in a game where even the 'poster child' faction isn't omni-saturated with players. So there's no way to guarantee that any two factions you put together are going to move. Now, if you put out say... something akin to the Christmas battleforces at edition launch - pick 6 factions, bundle up some of their nicest units and the new edition book, and let the players pick? *That* would sell I think. I dunno, YMMV but that's how I see it.
Was at OCC for AOS and came 2nd. I wasn't even going to go until the Skaventide box promo came up, literally bought my ticket that wednesday. Theoretically its invite based but its organised so short notice that my invite came on the 28th of August, so 2 weeks notice. The week before it got opened up to anyone who wants to play. Everyone for all the events that were on, so AOS, 40k, Underworlds and Killteam got a box if they played the whole event. AOS had 15 players, not 12. We have successfully got one of our 40k guys who got a box to try AOS, so Op Success?
I went to my FLGS last night, and they had 8 boxes on the shelf. I'm probably gonna pick one up, but I may see if I can get someone to split it with me. I'd love to see them give something to schools.
It could be a simple regional push to foster consumers on the market. Such decisions can be made for a variety of reasons, E.G.: They don't have any more ad budget for the region but they can offer products, maybe they see potential on the market and doing this can see the market grow in the future, maybe it's a simple mixup and they decided to make the most of it. Tough to say if it is underselling just yet, and only they have the numbers anyways. But if I were a betting man, I would say its an effort to see the regional market grow. If it were happening across the globe, then it would be a different story.
I live in America and at my LGS they have at least 10 boxes sitting around and have brought the price down to 176USD last time I was in there about 2 weeks ago
Yeah but that’s in the UK mate this is in Australia. Basically no one bought the box because AoS just isn’t very popular but that didn’t stop GW from over producing. It’s costing GW to store the boxes and it would be too expensive to send them back so GW just gives them away and they they can write it off as a loose for it’s over inflated retail value
100% of the cost in the model boxes is the people handling them. It's not worth the wages and opportunity cost to ever do repackaging or even recycling. It would be significantly cheaper for GW to landfill these than do this, but it's a good opportunity to build repore and get more new intro product into people's hands. I imagine that the bean counters are able to write the cost of these specific pallets as promotional/organized play material instead of flopped product. "No investors, we didn't have Skaventide flop, we just made a bunch to give away as marketing". Corporations aren't hard to figure out guys. They aren't evil, but they also aren't your friends. I know you all circle 🤜 🥩 to how GW ruined your childhood and relationship and finances or whatever, but by keeping production almost exlusively in the UK, they are more morally altruistic than 99.99% of other companies; especially the one that you work for 😂😂😂
At my LGS they tried to get them to buy 40 boxes but the owner got shafted on the 3rd edition box so they only ordered 20. I think there are still 2-3 left on the shelves.
I remember they did this as well with Dominion, giving away boxes by the stack at events, when they price these boxes so high no wonder they don't move. After getting burned by dominion I held off on skaventide just picking up the spearhead bits second hand. Boxes were going for 40% off at NOVA, we'll see how low they get in the future.
As some who works at a LGS and runs a Warhammer Alliance (youth club at a middle school) the boxes are not selling shops have lots of them sitting on the shelves Your idea of give them to schools etc would be an awesome idea and would help our clubs out so much
My guess is this is a marketing ploy to get more people at events. Events can drive the economy of a game system and the more people that attend them the more people feel pressured to by the latest and best units for the competitive edge but many collectors never get involved with the competitive scene so maybe there trying to ramp it up in aussy land
@@AngryAcolyte Ofc it was the capitol of AUS GT but the participants will go back to smaller Aussie communties and say "hey look what I got for competing" Then smaller events like the previous mentioned one with only 12 players suddenly get a few more players and ofc thats great for GW ofc I do except i could be wrong here but GW ain't giving money away out the goodness of there heart there has to be a long term plan :D
I would say it’s likely an Aussie thing. Warhammer/Wargames in general are not necessarily doing great atm down here due to cost of living. $450 au for a box is insane and a lot of my local game stores and the online stores I work with are saying they sold well beneath what they expected to sell for a major gw launch.
I've talked with 3 LGS owners in the US and they've all got a lot of excess inventory for the Skaventide boxes. I'm also getting ads on FB from GW to win free Skaventide boxes as well. In terms of the economics, there are two hypotheses in my mind. The first and most likely is that they have a lot of inventory and right now it's a cost of inventory that they're weighing against their sales forecasts. If they think the sales horizon eats to far into their mandated profit margins, they're willing to eat the loss up front to save on warehousing costs. The other option is that it could be a loss leader to get people into the game so they sell more specific army products later. This seems less likely since normally you'd just price them lower up front and they're targeting people who are *already going to tournaments* so these are not the folks that they need to get into the game.
Hi Rob, I’m in NZ and as far as I know the skaventide boxes have sold well. I hope my up coming AoS events give boxes away so I can help grow my club and local community
Can you imagine how different this story would be if they gave them to local schools and after school clubs? It's wild how such a successful company has no idea how to operate
@@ryanglessner8626they do and it’s a nice little package, but it’s just copies of four models. My student would shit their pants if they saw a skaventide box
Maybe GW is considering being more pro-active with a bit more of a generous PR image to help entice more people into the game, and hopefully supporting tournaments worldwide with more prizes and give-aways. That would entice more people to join more tournaments. Hopefully it is the start of a good trend.
If any Australians then go on to build a full army gw have easily recovered their costs. A skaventide box probably costs a third of the British cost price even if half the competitors but 1 codex and make the troops up to 2k then they've probably doubled the profit especially at aussie prices. Probably counting on Australia being a news vortex to stem bad pr
It costs a lot to ship product around Australia, and given that they would probably do container drops for the launch e.g.40 foot containers to each state port, Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney, Perth. That's around 67 cubic meters of space in each container. As it was a launch product it's unlikely that they did mixed container drops, hence it's cheaper to fill the container than it is to send a half load or to spend money filling the container with other product. In a country of only 26mill spread across a continent the size of Europe, they are probably writing off the stock as a bigger picture strategy to get AOS 4th in place to boast sales of all the other faction packs / Spearhead. GW have probably logged the cost as a "marketing expense". As for product cost I would estimate that the Skaventide box is costing them between 30 - 40 pounds to produce at the production volumes they are making given the prices they are selling it to the retailers, enabling them to give discounts of up to 20% on GW's RRP.
They gave away a free box to members of the ITC/gw tournament organizers. I bought 2 boxes and a month later I got a 3rd for free. Likely to give mine away as prize support
Not sure how tax works in Australia but maybe if they ‘donate it’ to grass roots organizations they can write it off their Taxes and clear warehouse space at the same time? They have all those Kill Team and LoTRs boxes coming after all. Good for the players though, am definitely not jealous!
It's probably just accounting. If they've got record profits it would be handy to hedge with a 'big loss' to avoid the tax bill. Plus with the crazy pacific mark up (is it tariffs?) I imagine they didn't move a lot of product in that region.
I’m part of the schools program and while it is great, if they’d given us 2/3 boxes of Skaventide, with the terrain and two armies so many more kids would be able to play. 20 Vindictors and stabbez is crap. Give me something I can play games with.
Yeah that might be the idea. Make sure there is a heap of spearhead out there since their current model seems to be new players only. Backed up by their stores who are only meant to be doing intro games
I'm probably one of the people who benefits the most from this. Skaven is my main army. I did buy the box on launch day. I am in a team with 5 players attending the event so we're taking home 5 of these and my second army i've decided to pick up is ruination chamber Stormcast. So take it from me this is pretty great news :)
When you apply for a mortgage they are looking at your total income from the past year including any bonuses. It might be different across the pond but that's how it works in the states.
I got two Dominion boxes for back to back adepticons. I paid for the “VIG” package but it’s telling that GW threw that in the swag bag two years in a row.
Rob you're always hilarious to watch! Personally, i think this is it. Thr Skaven battletome preorders and sales are SO sh*t that they think guving out free boxes will entice people into buying the tomes. Think about it, if you save a couple hundred bucks on a box of minis and it entices you to buy the tomes, their margins on the battle tomes is like 90% right? Books are cheaper than models. So that makes sense to me. Their strategy of locking all the content behind the tome is horrible. The Skaven battletome is probably losing them tons of money.
It’s totally possible that they are going to be giving out spare stock to schools, events, etc. I just imagine they wouldn’t want to publicly yap about it so paying customers aren’t too pissed.
People are still saying that, at least in Canada 🇨🇦, Spearhead is still a thing. I’m going to check out the FLGS and see if it’s seeing any play in this neck of the woods.
GW tried to upsell every store on more Skaventide when placing their launch orders after the order cut off date, where normally if you don't place your order on the Google sheet by 5:30 PM on a Tuesday you don't get anything. Lots of stores got burned by Dominion, so didn't take as many, but it feels like GW made maybe just as many this time around too. So that means a lot more sitting in their warehouses around the world. They need the shelf space for all the other new model kits and lines they are releasing (or re-releasing in the case of Old World), so not having shelf space could legitimately be costing them more? Hard to say for certain without someone at GW confirming this is the case, but it feels very much like it's a logistics issue.
It’s sickening that a CEO once sgain raises his own pay (his job is too close to unskilled labour) while underpaying staff. That should be illegal. Srsly fire that ceo, get chatgpt pro and save millions. Just disgusting.
It’s like the CEO thinks “unskilled labor” means “unskilled in reading the room!” Maybe they should get a crash course in empathy instead of a paycheck increase!
@@Choom89 interesting fact: a german comedian was voted into the EU parliament. There he uncovered how politicians can „steal“ money from the eu since no receipt or claim of having spent money for EU relevant trips. Summarized he could steal millions and he claimed that doing it after a while made him feel like he deservedly it) In the end this theft is common practise. His name is Nico Semsrott, he has a yt channel
I reckon they just sent far too much stock to Australia and because of the high cost of shipping just decided to give it away as prizes, rather than ship it back.
Also with the bonus that you should add on each time you mention it. ‘It’s just for 1 year!’ It won’t be there next year, when after inflation their real wage decreases even further.
My LGS still as 70 copies of Skaventide. They had 15 copies of Dominion left when Skaventide came out. (They sold out of Leviathan in 2 days and they had close to 200 copies) Skaventide was clearly overproduced.
Don't worry us Australians are just as confused as everyone else. Most people at the GT are keen gamers so they've already bought Skaventide or splits, it's a nice bonus for some people but ultimately does nothing for GW PR. I would guess GW are simply way overstocked and did their normal thing of getting forcasts wrong.
It costs them zero dollars, because they wouldn't have sold any of them otherwise. In fact it probably saves them money as they can write it off as a business expense. Paywalling scrolls is a totally different issue that is just stupid all-around and actively costs them money rather than making them it.
I live in South America, and the price of Skaventide here is 400 US dollars in cash, even more expensive if I pay in installments with a card. And the average salary in my country is 300 dollars a month. Welcome to the proxy hell.
It’s a weird one. Don’t remember anything like this ever happening in warhammer… also. And maybe more importantly. I’ve never really called Ron a Silver Fox before. But he definitely is. A majestic silver fox. Lush.
My question is with how much these and the 50k boxes are made are they designed primarily as a profit driver off new edition hype or to bring in more people because the plastic is a lot for one person over the course of the edition by putting the pieces out there
Furthermore to your point around devaluing the product. By the time the partworks magazines have gone out, and the secondhand market has done it's job on Facebook Marketplace and Ebay. These minis are eeeeeeverywhere and cheap. This is precisely why I and many other people I know haven't bought Skaventide or Leviathan. Because we know they will be all over the place in a few months time.
I've bought 2 boxes of Skaventide myself one in German from a local store, one in Englisch direct at GW (I wanted the tokens) and I feel a bit betrayed by GW. I would take a 3rd or 4th box for free any time - it's a great box and I don't understand why it isn't sold out by now. I just hope, this is only a thing down under.
I'm an Australian and I was going to buy this box. Now I cannot justify spending anymore then 150aud on it, even then it kinda feels wrong to spend anything on it now
Not going to lie If I got that box for free I'd be both a skaven and stormcast simp for life and commit to consistently buying models. But for now I can only afford to go halvesies on the new killteam box with my roommate
My personal theory is that there's something about the Australian market that they're addressing. Pure speculation but I think maybe there's no budget armies and they are trying to create budget / intro armies to hook people in. The average price of entry to the hobby compared to the income we earn here is pretty crazy so maybe that's it. Still this theory has holes. Why give them to the grand tournament players. No idea. Maybe they're they're trying to make us into advocates instead of grumblers.
If this starts happeniong outside Australia, Ill pay proper attention. I assume what happened is that they sent way, way too many to Australia, no one bought them down there because the price is absolutely ludicrousand it's just not worth shipping them the whole way back to Nottingham. As such, they are dumping them in the easiest way they can. Hopefully this means that a significant price decrease is coming for Aussies.
Honestly I bought the spearhead box and the core rulebook and only realised that the spearhead book wasn't in the box for 80€ and the only thing I needed from that box were the cards. Quite dissapointing. So maybe they should make usefull boxes for reasonable prices.
This is just games workshop dumping stock in Australia in the most economical way, that all. There warehouse is in Sydney, the tournament are in Sydney so basically costing them nothing to get rid of all that excess stock because they overproduced Skaventide (they alway overproduce the AoS starter sets) and the demand is less than normal as the models in this vision just aren’t as popular as past editions as most Stormcast fan boys will already have the old chunky liberators so they won’t be in any rush to go buy some more. (I actually prefer the old chunky models) so you have two factions which aren’t very popular in a box that that isn’t needed and they wonder why it didn’t sell. If people are hoping for a repeat of this in America then remember that the American warehouse is in Memphis, Tennessee so attendance events local to that state.
Maybe they need to stop putting Stormcast in every starter box? I guess it works fine with Marines in 40K because (as far as I understand, which isnt much) there are many flavours of Marines and there isnt really to the same degree with Stormcast. Also the way Coach says "pro acryl" makes me laugh 😅
Just to set the record straight for the first 2 mins of the video. You absolutely CAN put down bonuses on your mortgage application. You also could back when I was renting but it's been a few years so maybe that's changed? The renting scene is toxic af these days.
GW is GW. This decision will have been based on numbers. I think they over-printed Skaventide, and it was going to cost them more money to store 120+ Skaventide boxes in Australia than give them away. I'm one of the Syd GT players, so I guess my third army is Skaven now. You're going to have a crazily high level of SCE and Skaven expertise in Sydney in 12 months.
It's obvious that GW have seen the error of their ways and had a complete change of heart. DERRR!! As f@@kin if! Seems to me they've really screwed up with pricing in Oz and the punters have voted with their dollars by not buying the stuff. Giving it to these select peeps probably a congrats to them for their loyalty and enthusiasm, even if they did already have that grey plastic mountain of shame in the cupboard (in the loft, under the stairs, in the cellar.....) First time here, liked and subscribed 😊
personally i don't think the box sold that well, the shop i work at it sold poorly, i think they have a ton of sitting stock. Well no one is buying it now, it will look really good, lets give some away. Thats my thought
It's so weird. Alot of big what ifs. Did they outprice the Australian market? Did they ship an extra container and it's to expensive to ship back? My local flgs ordered only enough to complete pre-orders, no extras.
It’s really simple - GW made more than people are willing to buy. So either it sits on shelves sucking up warehouse space and looks bad on their balance sheet / cash flow or they push it out as a marketing expense rather than have it sit or shipped somewhere else. Nothing altruistic about this, it’s pure financial self-interest on GWs part.
Great for tournament goers though, happy for them.
that's quite strange, I assumed that Skaventide was a success
@@halflifeger4179 both things can be true
Not to be too generous to GW (lmao) but if this was at all a pre planned strategy or one they're willing to look into more going forward than it's a win-win. It doesn't really matter if they can write it off as a marketing expense if players are still getting free boxes - at least, hoping it continues moving forward.
@@halflifeger4179 I think Skaventide was a success, but it hasn't sold out. Selling 90% of 100,000 copies is a success but that would still leave the other ten thousand filling up space in a warehouse. Giving them away makes sense. Also if some of those people then go and build Skaven or Stormcast armies, they'll more than make the money back.
@@charles7928 seems like the most likely scenario
They may have had unused marketing dollars allocated in their "Australia marketing budget" that they needed to use before the end of the fiscal year to maximize tax incentives and since the value of the box is so much higher in Australia, some accountant may have teamed up with the marketing decision on this one.
Imagine if you own a flgs and GW convinced you to load your store with tones of copies of skaventide. The release day comes and goes and the game bombs and you're still stuck with tones of copies of skaventide. And then 3 months after the release, GW suddenly floods the market with tones of free copies of skaventide driving the perceived value of the box down even further. That would probably make a business owner exit the gaming industry Kurt Cobain style.
thats super rough
Consideration both incidents are in Australia who is known for being massive upcharged for warhammer. I think GW saw sales for AOS in that region being very very low and instead of adjusting prices they gave away free product to try and hook more players in the region or hook players already in to start new factions.
As somebody who runs an after school club at a secondary school being sent one of these boxes would be bloody awesome!!!! Kids could work in teams to build, paint and then play AoS. The School Alliance isn’t very good. It’s free and I’m not knocking that. But kids can’t play a game of AoS of 40K with the contents of SA stuff. The paints you get with it is pitiful. All they can do is build and paint a Space Smurf and Orc thing. That’s it. They just hope that the parents will go out and buy stuff for the kids. Schools would love to receive a launch box that the kids can properly use and properly experience the world of Warhammer and the hobby that we love. Lost opportunity for a great bit of PR.
I'm in a similar situation and you are 💯 right.
Often have to bring in my own models to demo a game. Getting your first model is cool and all but a lot of kids see that as the end point because they aren't getting proper games in.
Same. Luckily some very generous folks in the community game us some lovely donations and the kids love it - especially as they seem more interested in killing stuff than painting
GW must have really over produced skaventide, but they made a ton of the dominion box too. Great deals in the long run
gonna be seeing 133 new skaventide boxes for sale on ebay
Im typing this 3 weeks after the video was posted. I just found a local store in Spain doing a limited sale for a bunch of Skaventide boxes at 129 euros, which is almost a 40% discount.
I'm new to the hobby, but this is the first time I see an official retailer doing such a great discount on any sealed GW product.
Me and 3 other friends are JUST starting to get our first minis. They prefer 40k over AoS sadly, so we'll be getting and playing Combat Patrol first.
However, I think I'm still going to buy the Skaventide box on the side lol. I feel like 129e is a great price for everything that comes in that beautiful box.
the most plausible explanation is that they are just a really generous company that can't wait to show it.
I was there for the oceanic championship tournament. It was a concurrent tournament for all the different systems and they gave away boxes for all of the different systems. So all the WHU players (me and seven others) got one. And I believe the 40k, AoS, Kill Team and Warcry players all got one too. So it was a lot more boxes than just twelve. None of us could quite believe we were getting the box until we had it in our hands. I suspect what happened was that in Australia they are not moving anywhere near as much as they thought they were. Considering its a 450AUD box and the economy here is... not great, that sounds like a reasonable explanation. And given the reputation Warhammer has in Australia (something that can genuinely financially devastate you), I wouldn't be shocked if the prices here have finally hit a breaking point that Aussies just can't stomach anymore.
I look forward to GW, once again, considering NZ part of Australia (for everything except pricing) and them not doing the same thing on this side of the ditch.
Honestly, I'm actually surprised they were providing official support of any kind. I thought they'd long ago washed their hands of getting involved in events down this way. Or maybe that's just in NZ.
That gray mini's insult cut me deep! Let me go wipe my tears with all these unpainted minis
i am astounded that gw gave something away. i imagine them checking pockets as employees leave for the day searching for wayward paper clips.
two things to keep in mind:
1. GW give things away to content creators, albeit they still get a form of advertisement out of it
2. Depending on local tax law, prizes are deductible
@@malcolmcurrie7542 very true. mine was mostly a flippant remark. as a fan of the brand since the early 90s it is so great to see this kind of engagement the company has with social media and such a difference since those times. i am absolutely stoked to see anyone receive these kits, especially folks spending time and funds to get to these events.
Running a 60 player event in Melbourne 2 weeks, hope we get some Skaventide boxes for free randomly.
If we don’t get those Skaventide boxes, I’m starting a petition for a free pizza instead!
I am in China, and even with the downgrading of the economy, more and more people joined AoS, and there are many of them are from 40k. People have had enough with 40k now and they really love AoS.
I’ve played 40K ever since 6th edition. Recently started playing games of spearhead in AOS and now I much prefer it.
@@PhantomSt4gg I feel like spearhead exceeds everyone's expectations especially in drawing players from other games such as 40k. AoS team really hit this one.
It's fascinating to see how the gaming community evolves, especially in different regions like China. AoS really seems to be gaining traction!
I was so bloody stoked! I'm going to the SydneyGT and that news blew me away. I've been a Warhammer fan for 28 years and GW have never done anything like this before. Can't wait for my free copy of Skaventide.
So happy for you!!
Probably simply the logistic and the repackaging of the Skaventide sprues cost more then selling them, so they just threw them away to some Australian event because In Australia GW miniatures cost more then in the other countries.
Here in Italy we have good discounts (25% or 30%) so official stores went bad while independent stores went good.
Sydney GT price was $165 not $85.
Doesn’t make any difference in the marketing / profit argument but now the GT ticket paid for itself. 😊
Ty! I was told on stream it was 85
@@thehonestwargamerstreams probably £85. As a Brit living in Aus I definitely make the most of any trips back with an extra suitcase of grey plastic. :)
@benwood1977
Yip $165AUD = £84.75GBP at this moment
The economics are simple: they would have been pulping/shredding the boxes otherwise.
This way they might stimulate more AOS players in the long term.
I spoke with Coach this last weekend at an event, and he got more boxes than event attendees and is organising teachers to pick them up for school programs to make it accessible. I am attending and getting a box, and I plan to get a 40K friend into AoS with it.
Happy for those people. That is nice. This should be celebrated!!! Hope we get more skaven players from just that. Skaven Clan WARS!!!!
I'm located in Germany and was surprised to see that my flgs has three Skaventide boxes left on the shelves although we do have a rather large AoS-community. On the other hand most (or even all?) people split their boxes so maybe that reduced the volume of sold boxes by some degree...
Australians pay ~30% more because their boxes are shipped from the other side of the world so there's freight + import tax on every product. Larger boxes are typically sent back from stores to be broken down and reboxed but I can totally see this being too expensive to justify for Skaventide if it had to go back to HQ, so it ends up cheaper to give them away for free/get some PR use from them as the alternative is to just bin them (which given the amount would probably incur some fines for waste)
As someone thinking to get into aos with skaventide in Australia. I can honestly say that I will not be spending more then 150aud on the box. If I can't find one that cheap then its not worth it for me to buy something that the company is giving away.
Now if they gave it to struggling shops or schools and children programs, then it would be a completely different story. But I missed an event and also missed out on saving $350. It just doesn't feel right buying this product anymore
@@VeloVios but look at it the other way, people who go to tournaments who've no doubt spent tons of money areas and many hours painting and gaming are being rewarded for that, I don't see the issue. It's better than giving away copies to content creators when the online store is sold out - like we saw with 9th and 10th Ed 40k, cursed city, and many other products. Maybe go to gts in the future?
The reason for the pricing isnt shipping and tax. You can import the same boxes from the UK using a post forwarding service then pay import tax and still get it cheaper. 3rd party official retailer + 2x postage bills & 2x tax bills and its still cheaper than buying local.
The reason it costs what it costs is because they decided it would cost more and then didn't change their minds cos ppl still buy.
They are probably giving them away because they made them too expensive & dont want to pay to store them. I would have bought 2 boxes to use in old world if they had been closer to the UK price, but I'm not paying a grand for them
@@markysgeeklab8783 There's a lot more to consider for a company as large as GW than just the shipping/import fees - they have to build infrastructure, hire staff to run stores/warehouses/trade relations etc, which all costs more than doing it in the UK.
Absolutely, there is an aspect that Australia is a generally higher cost of living place with a higher minimum wage and they price the products to match that, but they aren't gouging the Aus market like a lot of people claim. It's the same for any foreign import, GW aren't anything different in that regard.
I looked it up and most post forwarding services are quoting about £90 for a skaventide box sized parcel so that's £250 before taxes, way more expensive than just buying it in Aus?
Main reason I didn't pick up Skaventide (well other than being broke due to health issues atm) is just... I like both Skaven and Stormcast, but neither are my primary thing by any stretch?
And if I'm spending money on Warhammer atm it's going to be on my current army.
The sculpts are honestly great; but what's an Idoneth player (me) gonna do with Stormcast and Skaven? < . .>
If I had infinite time and money? Yeah I'd buy 2 boxes of Skaventide because I'd absolutely rock all those minis in their respective factions; they look great. I just... don't have infinite time or money so I can't.
But then this is the same reason I didn't buy Leviathan for 40k - Yes it's a great deal if you're a Marine and Tyranid player, and a decently OK one if you play one of those... but I play Guard. So wtf do I need Marines and Nids for? Though at least in AoS I like almost every faction and could see playing them all at some point, time and money permitting.
That's just my perspective on them anyway. I just feel like big vs boxes are of very niche interest in a game where even the 'poster child' faction isn't omni-saturated with players. So there's no way to guarantee that any two factions you put together are going to move.
Now, if you put out say... something akin to the Christmas battleforces at edition launch - pick 6 factions, bundle up some of their nicest units and the new edition book, and let the players pick? *That* would sell I think.
I dunno, YMMV but that's how I see it.
Was at OCC for AOS and came 2nd.
I wasn't even going to go until the Skaventide box promo came up, literally bought my ticket that wednesday. Theoretically its invite based but its organised so short notice that my invite came on the 28th of August, so 2 weeks notice. The week before it got opened up to anyone who wants to play.
Everyone for all the events that were on, so AOS, 40k, Underworlds and Killteam got a box if they played the whole event. AOS had 15 players, not 12.
We have successfully got one of our 40k guys who got a box to try AOS, so Op Success?
I went to my FLGS last night, and they had 8 boxes on the shelf. I'm probably gonna pick one up, but I may see if I can get someone to split it with me. I'd love to see them give something to schools.
It could be a simple regional push to foster consumers on the market. Such decisions can be made for a variety of reasons, E.G.: They don't have any more ad budget for the region but they can offer products, maybe they see potential on the market and doing this can see the market grow in the future, maybe it's a simple mixup and they decided to make the most of it. Tough to say if it is underselling just yet, and only they have the numbers anyways.
But if I were a betting man, I would say its an effort to see the regional market grow. If it were happening across the globe, then it would be a different story.
I live in America and at my LGS they have at least 10 boxes sitting around and have brought the price down to 176USD last time I was in there about 2 weeks ago
I'm kinda sad that I'm missing out but man Oceania players really needed this. Awesome!
I thought GW keep these sprues to pass onto Hachette at a later date. Which made more sense to me
Yeah but that’s in the UK mate this is in Australia. Basically no one bought the box because AoS just isn’t very popular but that didn’t stop GW from over producing. It’s costing GW to store the boxes and it would be too expensive to send them back so GW just gives them away and they they can write it off as a loose for it’s over inflated retail value
100% of the cost in the model boxes is the people handling them. It's not worth the wages and opportunity cost to ever do repackaging or even recycling. It would be significantly cheaper for GW to landfill these than do this, but it's a good opportunity to build repore and get more new intro product into people's hands. I imagine that the bean counters are able to write the cost of these specific pallets as promotional/organized play material instead of flopped product. "No investors, we didn't have Skaventide flop, we just made a bunch to give away as marketing".
Corporations aren't hard to figure out guys. They aren't evil, but they also aren't your friends. I know you all circle 🤜 🥩 to how GW ruined your childhood and relationship and finances or whatever, but by keeping production almost exlusively in the UK, they are more morally altruistic than 99.99% of other companies; especially the one that you work for 😂😂😂
I mostly watch for your incredible charm!
At my LGS they tried to get them to buy 40 boxes but the owner got shafted on the 3rd edition box so they only ordered 20. I think there are still 2-3 left on the shelves.
I 100% plan on flipping my free copy
I remember they did this as well with Dominion, giving away boxes by the stack at events, when they price these boxes so high no wonder they don't move. After getting burned by dominion I held off on skaventide just picking up the spearhead bits second hand. Boxes were going for 40% off at NOVA, we'll see how low they get in the future.
My LGS gave away a free Krondspine to all attendants of the last 3rd edition RTT
Mad!
I bought skaventide and I’m fine if they wanna give it away to some tournament players.
As some who works at a LGS and runs a Warhammer Alliance (youth club at a middle school) the boxes are not selling shops have lots of them sitting on the shelves
Your idea of give them to schools etc would be an awesome idea and would help our clubs out so much
that's really sad, it's honestly a great box
My guess is this is a marketing ploy to get more people at events. Events can drive the economy of a game system and the more people that attend them the more people feel pressured to by the latest and best units for the competitive edge but many collectors never get involved with the competitive scene so maybe there trying to ramp it up in aussy land
The event sold out before they announced this. 😊
@@AngryAcolyte Ofc it was the capitol of AUS GT but the participants will go back to smaller Aussie communties and say "hey look what I got for competing" Then smaller events like the previous mentioned one with only 12 players suddenly get a few more players and ofc thats great for GW ofc I do except i could be wrong here but GW ain't giving money away out the goodness of there heart there has to be a long term plan :D
I would say it’s likely an Aussie thing. Warhammer/Wargames in general are not necessarily doing great atm down here due to cost of living.
$450 au for a box is insane and a lot of my local game stores and the online stores I work with are saying they sold well beneath what they expected to sell for a major gw launch.
I've talked with 3 LGS owners in the US and they've all got a lot of excess inventory for the Skaventide boxes. I'm also getting ads on FB from GW to win free Skaventide boxes as well.
In terms of the economics, there are two hypotheses in my mind. The first and most likely is that they have a lot of inventory and right now it's a cost of inventory that they're weighing against their sales forecasts. If they think the sales horizon eats to far into their mandated profit margins, they're willing to eat the loss up front to save on warehousing costs. The other option is that it could be a loss leader to get people into the game so they sell more specific army products later. This seems less likely since normally you'd just price them lower up front and they're targeting people who are *already going to tournaments* so these are not the folks that they need to get into the game.
Hi Rob, I’m in NZ and as far as I know the skaventide boxes have sold well. I hope my up coming AoS events give boxes away so I can help grow my club and local community
Can you imagine how different this story would be if they gave them to local schools and after school clubs? It's wild how such a successful company has no idea how to operate
I could be wrong, but I believe they already have a program to give Warhammer to clubs and after school clubs.
@@ryanglessner8626they do and it’s a nice little package, but it’s just copies of four models. My student would shit their pants if they saw a skaventide box
@@ryanglessner8626they do, but they hardly give out anything
Maybe GW is considering being more pro-active with a bit more of a generous PR image to help entice more people into the game, and hopefully supporting tournaments worldwide with more prizes and give-aways. That would entice more people to join more tournaments. Hopefully it is the start of a good trend.
If any Australians then go on to build a full army gw have easily recovered their costs. A skaventide box probably costs a third of the British cost price even if half the competitors but 1 codex and make the troops up to 2k then they've probably doubled the profit especially at aussie prices. Probably counting on Australia being a news vortex to stem bad pr
It costs a lot to ship product around Australia, and given that they would probably do container drops for the launch e.g.40 foot containers to each state port, Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney, Perth. That's around 67 cubic meters of space in each container. As it was a launch product it's unlikely that they did mixed container drops, hence it's cheaper to fill the container than it is to send a half load or to spend money filling the container with other product. In a country of only 26mill spread across a continent the size of Europe, they are probably writing off the stock as a bigger picture strategy to get AOS 4th in place to boast sales of all the other faction packs / Spearhead. GW have probably logged the cost as a "marketing expense". As for product cost I would estimate that the Skaventide box is costing them between 30 - 40 pounds to produce at the production volumes they are making given the prices they are selling it to the retailers, enabling them to give discounts of up to 20% on GW's RRP.
They gave away a free box to members of the ITC/gw tournament organizers. I bought 2 boxes and a month later I got a 3rd for free. Likely to give mine away as prize support
Not sure how tax works in Australia but maybe if they ‘donate it’ to grass roots organizations they can write it off their Taxes and clear warehouse space at the same time? They have all those Kill Team and LoTRs boxes coming after all. Good for the players though, am definitely not jealous!
I might have a big pile of shame, but ive also painted about 9k points of models this year between 40k and AoS.
I am working in the pile
I got my own Skaventide box.....to build TWO Spearheads!
It's a little more than 2 spearheads ;)
@@CrowziYT oh i know. I also enjoy hoarding lol
Wait, other people aren't watching just because Rob is charming?!?
I know!!!
It's probably just accounting. If they've got record profits it would be handy to hedge with a 'big loss' to avoid the tax bill. Plus with the crazy pacific mark up (is it tariffs?) I imagine they didn't move a lot of product in that region.
I’m part of the schools program and while it is great, if they’d given us 2/3 boxes of Skaventide, with the terrain and two armies so many more kids would be able to play.
20 Vindictors and stabbez is crap.
Give me something I can play games with.
Yeah that might be the idea. Make sure there is a heap of spearhead out there since their current model seems to be new players only. Backed up by their stores who are only meant to be doing intro games
I'm probably one of the people who benefits the most from this. Skaven is my main army. I did buy the box on launch day. I am in a team with 5 players attending the event so we're taking home 5 of these and my second army i've decided to pick up is ruination chamber Stormcast. So take it from me this is pretty great news :)
When you apply for a mortgage they are looking at your total income from the past year including any bonuses. It might be different across the pond but that's how it works in the states.
Different here
I got two Dominion boxes for back to back adepticons. I paid for the “VIG” package but it’s telling that GW threw that in the swag bag two years in a row.
Rob you're always hilarious to watch!
Personally, i think this is it.
Thr Skaven battletome preorders and sales are SO sh*t that they think guving out free boxes will entice people into buying the tomes. Think about it, if you save a couple hundred bucks on a box of minis and it entices you to buy the tomes, their margins on the battle tomes is like 90% right? Books are cheaper than models. So that makes sense to me.
Their strategy of locking all the content behind the tome is horrible. The Skaven battletome is probably losing them tons of money.
It’s totally possible that they are going to be giving out spare stock to schools, events, etc. I just imagine they wouldn’t want to publicly yap about it so paying customers aren’t too pissed.
People are still saying that, at least in Canada 🇨🇦, Spearhead is still a thing. I’m going to check out the FLGS and see if it’s seeing any play in this neck of the woods.
GW tried to upsell every store on more Skaventide when placing their launch orders after the order cut off date, where normally if you don't place your order on the Google sheet by 5:30 PM on a Tuesday you don't get anything. Lots of stores got burned by Dominion, so didn't take as many, but it feels like GW made maybe just as many this time around too. So that means a lot more sitting in their warehouses around the world. They need the shelf space for all the other new model kits and lines they are releasing (or re-releasing in the case of Old World), so not having shelf space could legitimately be costing them more? Hard to say for certain without someone at GW confirming this is the case, but it feels very much like it's a logistics issue.
It’s sickening that a CEO once sgain raises his own pay (his job is too close to unskilled labour) while underpaying staff. That should be illegal.
Srsly fire that ceo, get chatgpt pro and save millions.
Just disgusting.
It’s like the CEO thinks “unskilled labor” means “unskilled in reading the room!” Maybe they should get a crash course in empathy instead of a paycheck increase!
I don't understand how people so rich feel like they deserve or need more money... The grime must prevent them from moving at some point.
@@Choom89 interesting fact: a german comedian was voted into the EU parliament. There he uncovered how politicians can „steal“ money from the eu since no receipt or claim of having spent money for EU relevant trips. Summarized he could steal millions and he claimed that doing it after a while made him feel like he deservedly it)
In the end this theft is common practise.
His name is Nico Semsrott, he has a yt channel
If GW really needs to shift this box, they can send me a couple. I’ll gladly cover the postage.
They would be better off giving the new MESBG box as a prize to broaden the add on sales!
This warm my heart.
If it was a 40K tournament it would make more sense.
I reckon they just sent far too much stock to Australia and because of the high cost of shipping just decided to give it away as prizes, rather than ship it back.
Also with the bonus that you should add on each time you mention it.
‘It’s just for 1 year!’
It won’t be there next year, when after inflation their real wage decreases even further.
When they don't give stuff away they lose , when they give stuff away they lose, mountain out of molehills
Thanks!
AOS Coach repping AEW, love it.
I suspect the VIP ticket at LGT this weekend will include skaventide, they’ve already said it comes with a box worth £160.
Yeah they confirmed it
Improving public perception of the brand before all the TV stuff launches, or could it be that it's cheaper to do this Vs advertising?
You may already know of him but I feel like you'd be a fan of Gary economics
I do!!
@@thehonestwargamerstreams tax the assets!
My LGS still as 70 copies of Skaventide. They had 15 copies of Dominion left when Skaventide came out. (They sold out of Leviathan in 2 days and they had close to 200 copies)
Skaventide was clearly overproduced.
Don't worry us Australians are just as confused as everyone else. Most people at the GT are keen gamers so they've already bought Skaventide or splits, it's a nice bonus for some people but ultimately does nothing for GW PR. I would guess GW are simply way overstocked and did their normal thing of getting forcasts wrong.
It costs them zero dollars, because they wouldn't have sold any of them otherwise. In fact it probably saves them money as they can write it off as a business expense.
Paywalling scrolls is a totally different issue that is just stupid all-around and actively costs them money rather than making them it.
I live in South America, and the price of Skaventide here is 400 US dollars in cash, even more expensive if I pay in installments with a card. And the average salary in my country is 300 dollars a month. Welcome to the proxy hell.
It’s a weird one. Don’t remember anything like this ever happening in warhammer… also. And maybe more importantly. I’ve never really called Ron a Silver Fox before. But he definitely is. A majestic silver fox. Lush.
Well Rob those rats do breed at a rapid fashion…maybe there was just to many for GW to handle? 😂
Can it be a Starter Set, if the rules are not included?
It was in a good place. but I suspect it to die, because of no rules for armies.
My question is with how much these and the 50k boxes are made are they designed primarily as a profit driver off new edition hype or to bring in more people because the plastic is a lot for one person over the course of the edition by putting the pieces out there
Furthermore to your point around devaluing the product. By the time the partworks magazines have gone out, and the secondhand market has done it's job on Facebook Marketplace and Ebay. These minis are eeeeeeverywhere and cheap.
This is precisely why I and many other people I know haven't bought Skaventide or Leviathan. Because we know they will be all over the place in a few months time.
It's because they literally can't give it away... oh hang on.
I've bought 2 boxes of Skaventide myself one in German from a local store, one in Englisch direct at GW (I wanted the tokens) and I feel a bit betrayed by GW. I would take a 3rd or 4th box for free any time - it's a great box and I don't understand why it isn't sold out by now.
I just hope, this is only a thing down under.
I'm an Australian and I was going to buy this box. Now I cannot justify spending anymore then 150aud on it, even then it kinda feels wrong to spend anything on it now
Not going to lie
If I got that box for free I'd be both a skaven and stormcast simp for life and commit to consistently buying models. But for now I can only afford to go halvesies on the new killteam box with my roommate
My personal theory is that there's something about the Australian market that they're addressing. Pure speculation but I think maybe there's no budget armies and they are trying to create budget / intro armies to hook people in. The average price of entry to the hobby compared to the income we earn here is pretty crazy so maybe that's it. Still this theory has holes. Why give them to the grand tournament players. No idea. Maybe they're they're trying to make us into advocates instead of grumblers.
"They gave a bonus!"
Sure. And the bonus of EVERY ELLIGIBLE EMPLOYEE COMBINED was still less than the cut of profits that went to any one shareholder.
Say it Louder
...and?
If this starts happeniong outside Australia, Ill pay proper attention.
I assume what happened is that they sent way, way too many to Australia, no one bought them down there because the price is absolutely ludicrousand it's just not worth shipping them the whole way back to Nottingham.
As such, they are dumping them in the easiest way they can.
Hopefully this means that a significant price decrease is coming for Aussies.
Honestly I bought the spearhead box and the core rulebook and only realised that the spearhead book wasn't in the box for 80€ and the only thing I needed from that box were the cards. Quite dissapointing. So maybe they should make usefull boxes for reasonable prices.
But there was badly fitting plastic terrain in there! Great value
This is just games workshop dumping stock in Australia in the most economical way, that all. There warehouse is in Sydney, the tournament are in Sydney so basically costing them nothing to get rid of all that excess stock because they overproduced Skaventide (they alway overproduce the AoS starter sets) and the demand is less than normal as the models in this vision just aren’t as popular as past editions as most Stormcast fan boys will already have the old chunky liberators so they won’t be in any rush to go buy some more. (I actually prefer the old chunky models) so you have two factions which aren’t very popular in a box that that isn’t needed and they wonder why it didn’t sell.
If people are hoping for a repeat of this in America then remember that the American warehouse is in Memphis, Tennessee so attendance events local to that state.
Maybe they need to stop putting Stormcast in every starter box? I guess it works fine with Marines in 40K because (as far as I understand, which isnt much) there are many flavours of Marines and there isnt really to the same degree with Stormcast.
Also the way Coach says "pro acryl" makes me laugh 😅
Just to set the record straight for the first 2 mins of the video. You absolutely CAN put down bonuses on your mortgage application. You also could back when I was renting but it's been a few years so maybe that's changed? The renting scene is toxic af these days.
I couldn't when I rented this year but ty
GW is GW. This decision will have been based on numbers. I think they over-printed Skaventide, and it was going to cost them more money to store 120+ Skaventide boxes in Australia than give them away. I'm one of the Syd GT players, so I guess my third army is Skaven now. You're going to have a crazily high level of SCE and Skaven expertise in Sydney in 12 months.
It's obvious that GW have seen the error of their ways and had a complete change of heart. DERRR!!
As f@@kin if! Seems to me they've really screwed up with pricing in Oz and the punters have voted with their dollars by not buying the stuff. Giving it to these select peeps probably a congrats to them for their loyalty and enthusiasm, even if they did already have that grey plastic mountain of shame in the cupboard (in the loft, under the stairs, in the cellar.....)
First time here, liked and subscribed 😊
ROB! Where's the new episodes of JUGGZ on spotify?
personally i don't think the box sold that well, the shop i work at it sold poorly, i think they have a ton of sitting stock. Well no one is buying it now, it will look really good, lets give some away. Thats my thought
I'd be fuming if I was an FLGS in Aus trying to sell Skaventide while GW are giving them out free 😅
Make the Sydney GT online so they have to furlfill it for 999 people 😂
It's so weird. Alot of big what ifs. Did they outprice the Australian market? Did they ship an extra container and it's to expensive to ship back?
My local flgs ordered only enough to complete pre-orders, no extras.
Third party company in Australia won’t be to keen on this, is my guess.
Everyone who plays this game should buy GW stock instead of buying a 3rd army, then they'll have a say in what happens going forwards