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Awesome!
To show the retrofit will be a great video Aaron. Also, if you could open one up and explain what goes on inside there and how the accumulated oil returns to the crankcase.
Yes to seeing a replace video. Also think a open it up and compare video would be cool too.
You bet!
Arod, also want to see if this is retrofittable to 17-19 & 11-16.
Man watching your videos is like opening Christmas presents. You the man!
Great !!”😢 now we can’t take off the CCV box now without jacking the computer which will void the warranty, and that’s if we can even find a way to unlock it now 😢😢 thanks Aaron ! You are still the king of all things Powerstroke!!
If the sensor is back that's because the government is requiring it again. Ford wouldn't waste the money to install it if they didn't have to.
Lol have knife will cut and paste😂
With over the air updates and connected vehicle data ford can see everything happening to that pcm and void warranties
23-24 CCV box works on a 17-19 and it does not cause pressure so less pressure on engine gaskets and less blow by
I put it on my 2021 f350
@@f4tl3oi bolted right on correct?
I don't how many of the truck mechanics have ever torn much motorcycle and ATV engines apart, but they have a so much better solution to crank case vents that I've just never seen in the automotive world.
Canam uses like 4way t style fitting on the inside of the engine geared to the crank, it spins flinging all the oil out of the crank case vent. Suzuki I've seen used a box separator like you buy aftermarket for some trucks, except it has a permanent drain line going back into the case so you don't have to drain it. A few other Japanese engines just use complex series of baffles cast into the case so oil doesn't get into the vent lines.
Of all your intro music, this one is my favorite and I love it every time you choose it for a video. I think my second favorite is the one you used in your seat module video while you were de-pinning the connector
Hey thanks bud, that made me smile 😊
there's one that sounds like Eazy E that gets me pumped
The name of this intro is called "Treatment Acne" if you wanna look it up. IDK where on earth they came up with that name but that's what it is.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod no buddy, thank you for the videos! Makes being a new ford tech (who’s now working on diesels) a hell of a lot easier!
Holla at me brother. 💯💯
Absolutely would love to see that
It looks like my 2016 has the third newer style ccv (like a 2019 has). I wonder what is in the newest box (hint, hint, cut one open). I also wonder if it could be used on my 2016.
Nice speculation on the sensor. 👍 I could go with that.
I would like to see you cut it in half with the band saw you don't have. Looks like they are just going full bore on crankcase emissions back into the turbo. Sure seems like it might be easier to remove than the other versions. When did Ford start thinking about mechanics working on these.Thanks for your videos, they really keep everyone updated
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Crazy to to think when I switched to wrenching on semi trucks I thought to my self why ford never put in replaceable ccv filters, damn near every semi has one and part of regular maintenance. Didn’t think my dream would come true and become such an issue. It’s ok though made a bunch of money swapping them out when I went back to wrenching on fords 😂
These things are an often ignored part, but so important to keep up with as they do wear out. So many diesels with start up smoke are actually suffering from a bad air oil separator/CCV
And possibly toomuch low-boost fuel in the tune.
DAYMMMM SON, so close to 100k, maybe by Dec 31st!
I made sure to mention your channel when I was watching a new video from Diesel Creek, he just got a 2021 6.7, told him to check you out, since your the man when it comes to the 6.7! Hope you have a merry Xmas, I'll try to holla at ya!
Woooooop woooooooopp
Hmmm, it would be interesting to see what kind of efficiency you would get if you could mount the cheese grater at the valve cover output, then this on top using an adapter to dump what little oil left back in the motor, still using intake vacuum to aid ventilation.
I was thinking SPE cheese grater under the new style CCV box than rerouted externally, obviously have to put a spacer on the drain back port, so the CCV box sits flush, this would have to product next to no fumes i am thinking.
A-Rod if you could do a video on that that would be excellent pretty amazing how you find all these different parts in there you're a Ford guru 💪💪💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I could see the sensor being used on the High Output 6.7 coming in 2023. They would want to make sure that motor is in top shape whereas the regular 6.7 hasn’t needed one
Great vid. Two cap fulls of Amsoil upper cylinder fuel treatment in that power washer. It will thank you.
I'm running 100cc of two cycle for every 16 quarts of diesel fuel as diesel today has zero lubrication this is my own preference not suggested that anyone else do this. But along with other regular diesel fuel conditioners, my 6.4 seems quieter and runs smoother. I also lowered my low-boost fuel from the number 3 position to the # 2 position on the tuner. This has improved the black smoke on start-ups and in stop-and-go traffic. Just something I am toying with I'm not responsible for any damages if you follow this procedure. Just saying a little more lube in the upper cylinder and going through the high-pressure fuel pump shouldn't harm anything. Should it 🤔
I was told I should replace it and I wanted to know if I should use the 19 CCV or if I can use the better designed 22 and up CCV.
I have a 2020 and I checked the back pressure with the old big factory one and I had nothing. I hate oil leaks so I decided to change it at 60k anyway and Ford sold me the new small one like you are showing here. Now I have slightly noticeable back pressure. What’s your thoughts?
I pulled the old one apart and it had some carbon in it.
Funny I was asking about that at the same time it was being filmed.
I have a 2022 F250 6.7 and this is the exact CCV I have. I wish you wouldve opended it up to see whats on the inside !!
Im gonna have to check my truck. It was built at the end of Sept 2022
Update, My Late 2022 F450 has the new lower profile boltless CCV box.
These videos really open my eyes to the subtle differences between my Coworkers 2019 350 Dually and My Late 22 450.
Pppppreciate chu
Very interesting. My '22 F350 still has the 'old' style box -- build date was 04/22.
Like to see a cut-away view of internal comparisons
I have a 17 6.7 and I'm just about to replace mine at 120k. Mine does not have the screws on top just a sealed unit so not sure if it's a filter or baffle. I got truck at 50k and I have a small upper oil pan leak now suspecting the ccv and it was probably never replaced. But still better to swap out and cause more damage. How often does Ford recommend replacing CCV?
U have n O filter
The ccp sensor may be equipped on the high output 6.7 option in the 2023s, as a protection measure to derate the truck. Could also be used in the iOLM strategy to corroborate calculated engine load. As far as the one-time use hoses, it may be an emissions tampering deterrent or to ensure proper sealing ford one of the strategies. One concern with not replacing the tube if flagged as one-time use, if one needed to SPW a repair (of a cp or wty repair) and it was not replaced, there is the potential for a claim rejection - never seen it, but is allegedly possible.
Look for it in 2025
I’ll be ordering it for sure to try it out.
Would like to see the video retrofitting the new style onto the older trucks. How did you get the newer style connector to work on the older trucks?
It is the same size port on the lower intake manny
Have you played with the new SPE CCV box?
I have the new style CCV box. Ordered 2/22/22, build date 8/22/22, delivery date 9/25/22. F 250 Lariat Preferred Equip. Package. Black Appearance Package.
We need options for 2017s. I don’t want to have to worry about this crap especially in the coming year and parts becoming more and more scarce !
This box will fit 11-current MY
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod that was going to be my question, TY
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod has this new ccv box been used on a 17 and confirmed no issues?
There isnt any issues to be had
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks brother!
Yes i want to see the video. Please please
PLEASE DO A VIDEO --- IM READY
Aye yo BoB!!
How often should we change it?
So there's 4 different ones now? I had prior heard about the one with top bolts, supposed to be serviceable and the tampons inside for steel bodies. But my 16 had the revised non-service sealed top one. Which I am unclear if they need changing or are a lifetime unit with no issues. Hmm.
Now we see a new version bolt top and an even newer version sealed top.
Only ones that had a replaceable filter was 17- 18. The steel body trucks didn't have filters in them. These new ones are much cheaper as well. Dealer cost on this are $49 compared to the other ones are over $100.
I agree. I believe ARod has said the filtered bolt top was first, then replaced with a new version thats non serviceable sealed top (which is what my 2015 has in it.) Then the newer trucks came with a newer filterless bolt top, and now those are replaced with the small one in this video. So i just saw another video from another flrd mechanic saying to change your ccv bc they get plugged. He shows it very swollen and its the same one i have in my truck which is filterless, so my question is how did that one get plugged up if it doesnt have a filter. And do i need to change mine to a newer version or is it a "lifetime" oil separator?
@@CPsGaragethe one for my 2015 truck on fordparts site is $220 discounted $245 regular. Smh so if i ever need tl change it im pretty sure im going with the $49
Do the newer serviceable CCV units keep oil out of intake? The Cummins crankcase filter works pretty well to keep oil to a minimum there.
They do not. My 2017 is serviceable type and I have oil stain on the inside where it's vented into the intake.
The serviceable ones have the most problems
Will the PC3Z-6A785-A fit on a 2019?
Yesir
The early 6.7's did not have a serviceable unit. They had an oil seperator. My truck has 132k miles and have never had a problem. Always enjoy and learn. Merry Christmas.
U too pal
Dumb question. I have a 2012 with the non serviceable box. I have no blow by at the moment. Are these non serviceable ones ok to let alone or are they needed changed?
@@Jason1Pa They are an oil seperator and are not serviceable.
@@johnmac4769 Yes I understand they are unserviceable,but can they still get clogged and need replaced?
Theres no filter, no change
I have a 2018 F350. Is this a direct replacement/upgrade? Simply unbolt and rebolt this new one? No programming or smog issues if I upgrade? I'm stuck in California so I am worried this might not be legal.
I wonder what's different on the inside 🤔
Probably pretty much same as the other oil separator but no filtration.
🤔🤔🤔🤔 the wheels in my head are turning.
Hey A-Rod an off-topic question for you... What are your thoughts on the 10-speed transmission is it prone to failure or breakdown... Thanks for the great videos I try to catch all of them as soon as I can...
I like em, some have their issues tho 😔😔😔😔
I've heard nothing but good things about the 10 speed. The fuel mileage is way better. Wish i had one.
I ordered a 2023 6.7 with snow prep package plan on doing some light plowing on our asphalt lot think it’ll stay in good shape? All 23’s come with the 10 speed
Let’s open it up and see inside!
That particular box is designed to be filed in the trash can haha!
My Job2 11/22 built F350 has this "newer" CCV box as shown in your video.
Lol ive nvr seen that emoji b4
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I wanted to ask you a question. Can I send it here or direct to you?
Email us
I had to replace the CCV box on my 2018. The connecting hose was toast, it disintegrated in my hand as I was removing it.
Was there any update on the retrofit of the later CCV to the earlier models?
It works on all 6.7s fitment wise. Won't work if your CCV box hose has an electrical connector. The new 1s do not.
We have a late 2020 that has the bolts on the ccv, no electrical connector, so the later filter will fit / work ok? The proper replacement is on back order with no eta.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodDo the 2019’s Have an electrical connector?
@kao9379 2011 2012 2013
The point of the CCV box is??? Bypass and a hose pointed to the ground. Simple and trouble free
Depends on where you live..... Technically it's a emissions device and would be against the law to remove it.
What is the service interval for a 2023 ccv? Thanks
...there isn't 1.
I bought a replacement filter for my 19, and just did the oil change where I was going to replace the filter (44,000 miles) and come to find out, mine appears to be non-servicable. there are no screws on the top to take the cover off!! So is it safe to assume that I don't need to worry about servicing this? Or should the whole canister be replaced at some point?
Nothin to service on them boys
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod sweet!!!
My november 22 build has the new version in it.
I wonder if it was change to accommodate the new high output 6.7L? Would the HO use that sensor port and the standard 6.7L not use it as on the current trucks?
Most likely due to up coming OBD requirements set by the government.
Is it better for the trucks to use after market reroutes or just a waste of money?
I would buy this over another companys reroute kit lol.
Now how does crankcase pressure vent? Yes I would believe that crank case presure would be off the charts. Blowing seals and gaskits all over the place oil leaking every wear 😂😂😂 some times there is no improveing the wheel you have to leave it alone and call it a wheel.😮🙄🤔😳
Awsome 👍
I'm watching for 100k subs!!!!
Bro so closeeee
Does the late model 22 ccv box have a filter in it? Can it get clogged up? I have a late model 22 and trying to decide if I leave the factory box since it's late model or do I get spe ccv kit?
No filter!!!!
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod so just leave it then and shouldn't have any problems right? Will this box fit a 18 6.7 with out any problems?
@stevenallen461 you shld put PC3Z 6A785 A in both if ur 22 hast had the new new one, still no filter tho
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod 22 has the new one you showed in this video but my dad's 18 hasn't been changed so if that one will fit no problem we will change it to the new one
@stevenallen461 yea
Did you ever do a video on the 2013 CCV hose connector removal? Installing a SPE on my 23 250
Yea a while ago
Have you seen failures of the non serviceable ccv’s? Wandering if I should install the most up to date ccv.
I wld get this one
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks ARod love watching your videos to keep me up to date with my 19 6.7 power stroke!
Is there any more info on whether this newer version is better?
.....better as far as what
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod better than the previous ccv versions. As in not plugging up, or having to service as much, or not allowing oil into the intake system...
@dawveed26 they all allow oil into the intake system. And only the duallys had ones with filters that were known to stop up
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod so the best option is to install a remote ccv can kit and eliminate the box all together?
@dawveed26 if that's what you deem suitable for your needs
Trying to take off my CCV on my 23. You ever do a vid on how to remove the new style CCV?
U have a 23 already
Do you think the 22.5/23 ccv would fit a 2011 6.7?
11-current homie
Maybe difference is for the HO motor? Not sure why it would be different or need a sensor.
OBD2 requirements
Does the internal catch can and CCV reroute cause any problems or bad effects with a 6.7 Powerstroke.
14,500m on my 21… Im kinda feeling like if I have a CCV issue, I’ll probably do the bypass. But really cool ford is doing this. And thanks A-Rod for the leaf spring packs shifting video. Calmed me down with mine. 👍
I have about the same mileage on mine. What does your truck do that feels different?
Arod did 2016 6.7 have the filters in the CCV Box?
Could anybody explain how Ford's CCV works on the diesel system
Ford coffee table book does (can be downloaded and found with a Google search). But it's no different than any other CCV in a gas or diesel vehicle.
Watxh our CCV videos
@@CPsGarage is there a coffee table book for the 22?
@@davecarroll4086 20-22 would be the same book. 23 will be the end one as there are major changes
This has got to be the most controversial subject when it comes to 6.7 SD's.
Does this fit on 2012 6.7?
It will, but your truck has a sensor and an electrical connector that goes to your box
I wonder if this new smaller CCV box is better or worse than the previous non serviceable one….. I wonder if this better circulates the crankcase pressure or if it makes it worse.
Better
Not sure I’m convinced. Just simply blowing through both (I finally tracked down a new one), the new one seems to have more flow resistance….
Would that fit a 2019?
No winches can't go on seventeens. Eighteens or nineteens, you have a trans cooler that will not allow it to work
Any chance that I could use one of these new designs on a 17’?
Yes
Any benefit to changing to the newer styles?@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
@RockyAlajoki they have some benefit if they changed it for the new ones. Same internals...
will this fit on my 2015 6.7?
Yes
Will this work on a 2019 f250 6.7?
No sir it will not work.
Hello ARod. I was wondering if I wanted to update my 2013 to this new design, I still have the connector on the tube. If I updated won't I get a check engine light complaining about the connector? Or does the pcm have to get the latest firmware first? Thanks
Yepp nice job, thee pcm wld need 2 be updated to the last calibration out.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thank you very much
I wish there was a RUclips burn that did this type of videos and dealerships but what's a gm mechanic
My 2015 6.7 doesn't have filters in the ccv box. No bolts....172,000 miles.
So I bought my 2013 f250 used from a ford dealer. was never told this was a serviceable part that if not changed you will have a $5000.00 repair for a 12 dollar gasket!!!!!! FU Ford! I will never put a CCV box back in my truck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know I'm going to order a CCV re route kit
Is the latest model any better than what came with the 2011?
Most def!
Have you done anything on the Sync 3 update? Before I do it I want to know what I’m agreeing to!
As far as what, have done many sunc 3 updates
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod if I perform the update on my 2021 am I granting more access to my overlords? Is it buggy? Is it a good upgrade worth doing?
Simple. No access. Juss like new firm ware
Is it true only the 2017-2018 trucks even had a filter ccv at all? That once the tsb was issued for replacement the new trucks had already been going out with the filterless ccv?
True
I need to replace my CCV on my 19 F250. What is the best one to use? Thanks
Why whats wrong with it
I have a 2019 (do not know much about diesels), could that blocked sensor port be for backward compatibility? My truck has 74k miles on it. How often should I replace the CCV element? I've have yet to replace it.
Backward compatibility. No, this is the brand new one. If you have a filter in yours, it needs to be replaced. Often watch my other ccv videos
What do you suggest for a 2015 that has the sensor?
Get 17M04 performed then use that box
Can I ask something off topic I live in Canada and I have a 2022f350 and I'm going down south for 3 months is there and think I should do before I head out it will be out side for 3months thanks for your time
Nope!!!
Just make sure it’s parked with a full tank of fuel to avoid moisture
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thank u keep the videos going I appreciate all your info this is the first time having a diesel truck
For simplicity. Lets call this fords catch can. After years of being imbarest by running the engine internal sewage back through the filtered cold air intake and into the combustion chamber. Turning your engine into a sewage treatment incinerator lowering the quality of the air fuel ratio efecting the HP, the MPG and over all engine performance while lowering the longevity of the engine. I say better but the sewage is still going back into the crankcase lowering the quality of the oil contaminating baring serfices, seals and gaskits also increasing crank case pressure putting undue forces on seals and gaskets. This isn't rocket science. This simply needs more serfice area like stainless steel wool and a couple of inline colection reservoirs. That can be easly removed and cleaned at regular servicing schedules
work on a 2017 6.7L?
I want to know this too. Should we replace the ccv on our 2017’s with this new box? Is it a better option than using something like the spe bypass?
As far as i know it will fit all 6.7s....the ones with the sensor ud have to get 17M04 performed first, then you could.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Found my answer finally lol. But what's the better option for a pre 2016 - the newer ones, or the old school ones without the filter? Seems like the newer ones (pre 2023) are getting replaced a lot...
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Ok so I read 17M04, will the software update IDS R111.02 or higher eliminate that sensor? Would I not need that collar they mention to attach a newer style box? If that's the case I'll just get the 2023 box w no worries. Really need to do mine before it's too late! Thank you Aaron!
U bett
Hmmm 🤨Very Interesting!?🧐...later 👍💪💯
Could this be used on a 2017 F350 DRW?
Yes
Mine is a late 19 f250. It came with non serviceable box. Should they still be replaced every 50k?
No bolts, no filter
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod no filter no worry?
Will that late 22 ccv box fit a 16?
Yes as long as u have no sensor on ur 16
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks man, I’ll check
Hello ARod, have you done a sequel to this vid yet?
Really dig my 22 Tremor, & it has the newest style ccv box.
Dig your vids too.
Not yet
Oddly enough running a tube out to the wheel well has been maintenance free since day 1 🤔
But it's also a emissions defeat device... Not recommended talking about it on the internet. EPA likes to make lists from the internet.....
Yep. First rule of fight club.
Agree folks. Compliance is the letter of the law now. Only point (in jest) was that the modern day version of things have a substantially more complex nature that force simple things to become an item of concern.
Throw it away and install cheese grader.
It’s so much smaller but I still say take it off and throw it away 😂
Why is everything breaking on the truck God my old Silverado is a more alive than these things
*** 2017 6.7 Powerstroke with 100 000+ miles.