I think it's great that RE is giving us such a choice of bikes in each cc lineup. Smart thinking, in my opinion. I'd love to see a Classic 650 and Scrambler 650 round out the range. I wish they'd offer other upgrades like classic twin dials, seat material/color choices, deluxe paint choices, larger fuel tank, etc., for an added premium price.
Cracking mix of urban and countryside riding route. The Shotgun seemed to handle each with aplomb. One thing you did not mention is the pillion seat component which I believe sets it apart from the Super Meteo. Neatly designrd so that it can easily be removed entirely, or set-up as rear luggage rack. Cheers
Most people know that the gestation period for motorcycles is three to four days, depending on the types of motorcycles involved. So the idea that the Shotgun appeared the next day cannot be true. Other than that obvious mistake, it was another very enjoyable and informative video.
Ha ha ha, very droll indeed. Ric, it could have been divine intervention which would explain the immediate appearance of this miraculous motorbike. Ric, ontario canada.
I'm getting very tempted with the Shotgun as an addition to my collection. Royal Enfield were at Squires cafe today when we called in and they were offering test rides, it's a pity I didn't have time. They had a green drill colour Shotgun that really looked fantastic.
The pegs are sitting in the middle of the Interceptor and the Super Meteor peg position, it seems to me. I can't do forward assist like the Super Meteor but the peg position on the Shotgun seem a nice location, they sure would do my one knee a favor. This motorcycle gives me 1940's Military vibes when studied from the side. May have to test ride one when they get to the States here. Thanks TBW....good stuff!
Foot pegs were always in the way on my old Interceptor and my dodgy left hip won't let me use forward mounted pegs. The Shotgun pegs cured both of these problems. The colour schemes could be a bit bolder but otherwise I think its a winner.
Love it. Sounds like the perfect 1st big bike for 50 year old, and absolutely appreciate why this will also appeal to new riders who don’t want to be “pigeon holed” and the grey version fills my small category.
Morning Dave. Nice to see you managed to get out on the Shotgun, and have come to pretty much the same conclusions as myself. As you know, I too mentioned the bar risers, or slight higher bars. I have also been saying for ages about the very likely introduction of a Classic 650, mentioning it in my review, as I had seen spy pics quite a while ago. I reckon it will be like this Shotgun, but with bling, spoked wheels and possibly forks similar to the Classic 350.Hopefully the black engine casings will remain, but I doubt that 🫣, so a few tubes of Autosol should be ordered at the same time 😂. These are just my opinion though 😉
I'm still holding out and hoping for a Classic/Bullet 500 single. I believe that, in my opinion, RE has filled the 650 line up just fine, but there's an obvious hole that the 500 single could fill. They should keep it simple. No frills and NO Tripper. Move the speedo over to the middle where it belongs. Do that, RE, and my checkbook will be ready and able.
I was always puzzled by RE's decision to make the new single a 350 to replace the 500. I know that they couldn't develop the existing 500 to meet increasingly strict emissions restrictions & yes they had to design a new engine. I have a 2018 C500 & I love it. A bored-out 350 would make a sensible 500 surely?
We know that there is plenty of room for boring the current 350 to a 500. THAT would make a perfect big thumper and would fit nicely into their heritage. Really, that is all that RE would need to do as the rest of the Classic and Bullet are just fine. I really like your videos. @@stephenphillip5656
We often see reviewers struggling to precisely label bikes, and then compare the product to "what it should be". Personally, I think attempts at pedantic categorisation can be counter-productive - the reality is, very few owners use their bike exclusively for it's designated "purpose". When something more general purpose comes along it should be received as such. The reality is, there's a grey-scale of actual usage, and whilst aesthetics and image play a significant part in marketing a product, practicality is (at least to me) of primary importance. If categorisation is necessary, I would describe the Shotgun (at least visually) as simply, "a straightforward utilitarian motorbike" - and I like it all the more for that possibly less marketable label.
You wondered what niche the Shotgun fits… then hit the nail on the head. It does slot neatly into the space vacated by Harley's base model 883 Sportster. It's the ideal economically priced core bike to build your own custom from, but even cheaper than the very basic 883 which fitted that bill so admirably before.
Without doubt the bike looks better without the rear seat(just like the classic 350 does!) I do like the idea of being able to turn the rear seat into a rack very good! You can see RE has improved on its quality of component parts & for me it smacks of Customisation Am going to book a test ride on one ASAP tho am still in love with my Intercepter & have no interest in trading in or selling her! Good video 👍🏻😎
See i think this and the classic look best with the pillion seats hence why im looking at both. If i wanted a single seat I'd buy a triumph bobber in a heart beat lol.
Another great ride out from you, Dave, punctuated as usual with a comprehensive and entertaining video. These two 'sisters', whichever is selected, as evidenced by the growing number of very happy bunnies, can only be perpetuated further by those considering joining the ranks. RE simply can't put a foot wrong, presently. 👍
Yamaha made a great 650 twin back in the mid 70s. If they revived that, they could probably create a bike that would compete with the Shotgun. Thank you for your demonstration at the end, showing how you fit on the bike.
As a fan of twin clock's and stainless/chrome exhausts would i swop my GoldStar for it, not a chance but saying that i did enjoy your review. It will obviously suit plenty but for me it's not as good as the Interceptor infact it looks quite dull compared to one of those.
I reckon the feet forward position works well on twist & rip CVT maxi scooters as there are no foot controls , but on motorcycles it’s big no no for me . I am not a fan of customs , cruisers or bobbers , but if I only had the choice between the Shotgun & Super Meteor I would have to choose the Shotgun . I prefer the feet rests & controls in the standard position & the steeper front fork rake for the handling on sharp country bends ,& shorter wheel base ,manoeuvring ability in city traffic jams . Also if the rumours of a possible RE 650 Bullet or Classic is true ,it needs to be a big single not a twin , as RE have enough 650 twin models in their range already .
As RE keep offering slight tweeks on a basic system I wonder if they have thought of offering a custom service to basically tweak your own bike at the point of purchase. Eg specify you want spoked or wire wheels, chrome or black exhaust. Bigger front fender, bar end mirrors or Mickey Mouse etc You could then get exactly what you want without having to use after market options or change things at extra cost. Just a thought, but they are rife for customising and this could be done at the point of sale which would probably be cheaper to the customer. They then wouldn’t need so many different models just individually specified machines.
Bonneville bobber and Speed master are comparable genres to the super meteor and the Shotgun perhaps? And maybe, the Shotgun is the classic 650?. I do wish they'd utilised the same instrument dial as on the new Himalayan on both the Super Meteor and the Shotgun.
Good Morning Dave , A cracking review on this bike , id have to say i do like the gear & brake position as to the forward controls of the sm 650 , so take care & ride safe
Well, you didn't disappoint. I feel you gave the bike a good honest review but more importantly as a Super Meteor owner like my self you could do the proper comparisons. It goes with out saying this bike is based on the Super Meteor and not like any other RE model. The black engine etc does look really nice, I would like that on my SM 650 but also owning a Classic 350 in that "DRAB' gun metal grey 🤣😂🤣I do benefit from not having to clean all that alloy. The rear seat / rack affair is not my cup of tea also. But it will be a fantastic built bike and is very affordable, I am sure RE will sell many. I too wouldn't change my Super Meteor for it. Keep up the great content and honest reviews, makes all the difference when someone testing a bike tells you as it is and not having to please suppliers in fear of not getting another test bike 👍Ride safe
Another great review Dave, one thing that really disappoints me is the weight of the motorcycle. I want to carry on riding as long as possible so the weight of a motorcycle is an important factor when making a decision of what to buy. I have recently been out on a 2hr demo of the Triumph 400 scrambler and I can honestly say that I was really impressed with it's performance and it's very managable weight. The scrambler weighs 179kg and has 40bhp vs 240kg and 47bhp of the RE 650 twins. I know the RE twins are not not scramblers(well not yet!) but the speed 400 is a retro roadster. I am not a Triumph fanboy and I have never owned a Triumph so I have no bias either way. Perhaps the competition for the Shotgun is the MG V9, Honda CL500, Triumph Bonneville bobber or Benelli 502C?
Watching RUclips videos it seems the only way people know that a panel is plastic and not metal is to go around banging the panel a number of times with their hand. As it is lighter and doesn't rust makes the plastic panel the better option.😂
I agree with your comments. A high quality plastic or aluminium mudguard/chain guard would be my preference. RE bikes are too heavy and the weight of the SM and Shotgun being 240 kg is far more than my old BMW R100 which has a much bigger and heavier engine
I'd describe this as Classic Despatch Motorcycle and should be rode by a rider in WW2 Military Uniform 😊 You rode this bike perfectly Dave, you seemed very much at home on this bike.
It should have hydraulic valve adjustment and belt drive stock from the factory 🏭. Belts last 100,000 + miles with no maintenance. Should have easier access to the valves for adjustment. In the old days you could get a enclosed chain and your chain would last so much longer. All bikes should have twin discs for safety.
@@splodge5714I have had my Sportster for 25 years and 400,000 miles on the original engine and 37 back tires and 17 front ones and 3 belts in 25 years.My daily driver as I don't have a car.
Royal Enfield have certainly hit the mark with this bike. although down on H.P, in realty-its all you need for road riding. It would sound nice with 2 into one sports exhaust. Just hope they bring out the 650 Classic.
I like much better the looks of the Super Meteor, but I like much more the ergos of the Shotgun, and I have the feeling swapping parts won't be as easy as it may seem.
I really like the Shot Gun 650. Blue looks really nice, as does the green. Personal preferences here, but I do prefer polished engine cases and chrome zorsts; certainly not a deal breaker for me thought but. I agree she does sound nice with the oe zorsts and I do like the shape of them. Question is, would I chop in Edna our beloved 2019 Interceptor? Wifey and I luv that bike. I have chucked a fair bit of wedge on customising her and the Hitchcocks slash cut zorsts sound like the dogs dangly bits. Truth be told, I don’t reckon I can chop Edna in at all; but I still luv the Shot Gun. Great video; very fair appraisal, you are correct to compare with the Super Meteor and I liked the way you gave the spec differential’s when required. Your enthusiasm and energy for the bike are infectious, one of the reasons your vids are always so damn enjoyable. Great work Dave, nice one bud. As always, ride safe fella.
The interceptor remains the choice if you value dynamics. It’s lighter, shorter wheelbase and steeper rake and 18” front wheel all reward the interested in handling. The super meteor is the cruiser with feet forward controls and the shotgun is in the middle essentially suitable for those who require a low seat height. If you don’t want a cruiser or love the shotgun styling then the original twins remain the best for most riders
Great review! I love my SM 650 as a single seat with Solo seat finisher. RE Barend Mirrors are brilliant! However, am excited with the Shotgun! But not over the line to trade and buy. (But how bout that floating seat! Love it) I wonder if this is the perfect fit for SM riders who couldn't get on with the more forward foot controls aside from the riders that are full on into custom creations.
I'd always hoped someone would bring out a British cruiser along the lines of the Sunbeam S7/S8. These were heavily influenced by the BMW R75 of the 1930s, a European idea of a cruiser rather than an American one. The Shotgun is quite close. If the much anticipated Classic 650 has the same frame as the Shotgun and Super Meteor, as rumours suggest, it might be quite close to (my) ideal.
The Sunbeam S7 was a terrible bike. The S8 was even worse. True, it was based on the BMW R75 (part of war reparations, like the DKW/BSA Bantam), but Sunbeam scrapped the defining feature of the R75, the boxer engine) in favour of a twin inline with the frame. They also messed up the shaft drive, replacing the bevel gears with a metal grinding worm drive. To mitigate the effects of that, they reduced the power output. Bung on balloon tyres to wreck the handling, and you have all the necessary conditions of the ruination of the British motorcycle industry. Thank God, current Royal Enfields are significantly better than that. The Raj bites back!
Great work 👍 I think this bike will appeal to younger riders and create more sales for Royal endfield . I love the look of this bike and I’m going to book a test ride, also I’m looking at the V 7 Moto Guzzi, not worlds apart in cost . I’m sure you’ll know what’s best ?
It’s Probably after the triumph bobber mantle with more focused handling. I hope new classic is a single still perhaps the new 450 LC unit? Bulitt 500 ? As you say how many more variants can you do with the twin. Would not look right I reckon.
I think it'll be called Bullet 650, not Classic 650. The spy shots show it with the squared off mudguard top and dual seat, like the new Bullet. Maybe there'll be both though eh!
A 650 twin to me won't be a 'Classic' or a 'Bullet'. It will just be a restyled Interceptor platform. I hope they bring out a Classic 500 (or 650) single.
Still undecided on the Shotgun, waiting to see the classic 650 , but if doesn't look exactly like the 350 classic styling including the headlight nacelle, I won't bother with it , in fact it probably won't have the same nacelle as it probably will have a rev counter . Good review of the Shotgun anyway Dave , Cheers Mel 🍻
Did you get to check out the pillion/rack system? I've seen it on other reviews and it definitely looks like a substantial rack, since it doubles as the pillion supports. 😎
..personally I see it as a less aggressive (sporty) version of an interceptor for those of us with shorter inseams. Also harks back to the "sporty" cruisers of the early eighties (kz,cbx,virago,gt-l,etc.)
Top review Dave as is Mr Fillinghams I’ve just watched tho I was bored half way through 😂 not of yours tho ofcourse, everyone there was very positive and being oh so nice…… why ? Haha. I say the same thing don’t like the clock, head lamp, rear seat until it’s off and the rear mudguard otherwise it’s an ok bike to me and that’s the best colour to me the blue tho what’s happened to the colour schemes this season …. I don’t bloody know !! Anyway Dave have a great Easter Weathers gonna be ok Stay safe Phil
Nice review. Re: the decals on the tank in relation to the white, black red combo and the blue versions. I think tank pads may be needed however, it will wreck the look of decals/stickers. Would getting the tank clear wrapped protected be a good alternative? Cheers
There needs to be a good smaller light weight bikes for people to learn on. I think most manufacturers just want to make the huge 1,000 cc-2500 monsters We need starter bikes for smaller people or for folks who want to ride but feels like no one makes these. I ride an Indian and think they need to address these issues
The shotgun was the closest thing I could find to a Bobber to add to my collection, CB900FD [1984] Versys 650 [2022] and Suzuki TS250 , when I looked at it I was not impressed with the overall quality in particular the play in the switch gear, and the thin paint, considering its so expensive I've decided to give it a miss. While I did like the style, I just dont have the confidence in it.
Hi there, if you were to be buying now, which bike would you choose. I appreciate there's not enough of a difference for you to swap, but which one would you choose now?
Isnt it bonkers how manufacturers make a bike to suit majority then go mad with so many models ......as a owner of two Enfield s the himalayan is box ready me... now I'm starting to worry about how many models they have as getting parts is still very slow....atb....
I do like these and sat on it, at the Scottish motorcycle show. But it’s sadly too high and bulky for Wee Mark. Wish they’d go back to bike heights of the 70’s and early 80’s.😂 But sitting on it, felt, so right. Logically my only step up from my 500 Rebel is the 1100. Am keeping the Meteor.😂 But nice review Dave. Not fun been a real short arse, you’re so limited, in choice
Nice video, but I'm afraid I come to this biased in favour of the Super Meteor. I am a Super Meteor owner and when you mention that the seat is "firmer" it made me flinch. Even with the standard factory seat, I can get about 40-50 miles before my rear starts to complain. To be honest, I don't see the point in the Shotgun, especially coming in so soon after the Super Meteor. Once again, I don't like the colour options on the Shogun. Each to their own I guess.
Seems a nice enough bike, Dave, but I don't think it's for me. The colours seem uninspiring and it's still overweight. Gloss black casings are fine, but I'm not a fan of matt exhausts, prefering something shiny. For a solo rider, the built-in luggage rack is a smart idea; for two-up, I'd hope that the pannier straps would be attachable between the rack and the seat. The engines in the RE 650's are all understressed, so they should be pretty-well bullet-proof, if you'll forgive the pun.
Get the Sportster. Hydraulic valve adjustment and belt drive means all you have to do is change the fluids and filter in 30 minutes in my driveway. Belts last 100,000+ miles with no maintenance. I have had my Sportster for 25 years and 400,000 miles on the original engine and 37 back tires and 17 front ones and 3 belts in 25 years. RE recomends engine rebuild at 65,000 miles. Lots of accessories and performance up grades. Sportsters are rebuidable forever ♾️. You can buy a good one for $2,500 or less a great bargain. Change the oil regularly and the bike will last forever. On a rubber mounted Sportster change the riveted clutch plate in the clutch and you are good to go. Sportsters 883 is not fast but 1200 has more HP but you can put a 1275 kit on a883. I love my Sportster 883. Very economical and fun to ride . Get one and you won't be disappointed.
@@splodge5714 Yeah much better class. Sportsters are rebuidable forever ♾️. I ride all the time because I don't have a car. So l put tons of miles on them. HD made a heinous decision to discontinued the Sportster. SWM and their copy of the EVO Sportsters are going to knock RE 650 out of the park. Sportsters are not a gateway to the big twins. It's a motorcycle unto itself.
I like this a lot better than the Super Meteor. Better footpeg position. I like the offset dash and the look of it. But the bike is too heavy, and I'm no RE fan. Chrome on motorbikes is like gold on women: tacky.
I tend to agree, it reminds me of years ago when the chrome was pitted and rusty (MZ exhausts?) the cheap option was to go to Halfords and buy a can of Pot Black heat resisting paint and paint downpipes and silencers with this. It looked okay for a short while then the rust returned and it looked dire again!@@ianhalliwell8604
My interest is how does it compare to the Interceptor in seating position, I have an Interceptor and love it, but due to my size ( large !!! or XXXFB) my joint issues are a problem, Is the Shotgun more suited to the taller rider ? i don't like the forewords position of the Meteor, sorry Dave .
Of interest to me does the lack of wind screen make for a more relaxed ride on the Shotgun over the super metour as a lot bufferting is found on the super Metour with screen ??
Nice bike, my only criticism & it's only my own, is i don't like the name "shotgun", other than that it would have to be green, i don't mind the blacked out engine as like you say much easier to maintain appearance. It looks cruiser like, it looks a tad like my suzy boulevard s40 which is a cruiser. For myself, 2 whls, 1 motor, handlebars etc. = motorcycle, tonnes of fun, almost but not quite as good as sex. Ric, ontario canada, thanks for the demo.
I'm disappointed that all the running gear is black and I was thinking it would be more like my 2020 Classic 500. I was wanting one but to spend 12,000 a bike I'm not happy with won't be happening.
All their bikes are good-looking. I don't quite trust them...their metallurgy! If they re always wanting to rearrange things except what needs the most, the lackluster engine!
true blue colour ;; lovely , maybe an extra 5 bhp just to make it different to the rest = even if not needed rather than a too similar range , after all it is called 'shotgun ' dry roads = you lottery winner you ;;
@@thebingleywheeler Dave they are a family owned great customer service small dealership, if you're in the area call in Steve , Paul and the team will be chuffed.. 💚
After watching this channel for awhile, I have come to realize that I am not a big fan of Royal Enfield's current crop. I do like the models from the 60's. These not so much at all. Their bikes seem vanilla to me. I really love his Moto Guzzi.
Ive just come back from Tokyo motor show and both Triumph and Enfield have nailed it ,, Honda sorry ,,,,,,, The enfield 350 classic lovely and the price ,,,Triumph 400 the price you cant even get a second-hand bike for that money ! Honda ya dumb arses ...get ya head out of sand
I understand where you are coming from but I thought the interceptor and Contnental have different frames and suspension? The engine seems to be the only carry over. The SM and shotgun are virtually the same with some minor tweeks. The weight of these bikes would make it a no no for me.
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I think it's great that RE is giving us such a choice of bikes in each cc lineup. Smart thinking, in my opinion. I'd love to see a Classic 650 and Scrambler 650 round out the range. I wish they'd offer other upgrades like classic twin dials, seat material/color choices, deluxe paint choices, larger fuel tank, etc., for an added premium price.
agreed. a rev counter would be most welcome
There's a classic and a scrambler 650 being tested
It was leaked
Cracking mix of urban and countryside riding route. The Shotgun seemed to handle each with aplomb. One thing you did not mention is the pillion seat component which I believe sets it apart from the Super Meteo. Neatly designrd so that it can easily be removed entirely, or set-up as rear luggage rack. Cheers
It does, and it’s brilliant 😊
No, it's crap. You can have a pillion seat OR a luggage rack, but not both. What shit.
@@johnharris7353 Mate you need a adventure bike. The Shot Gun is not made as a touring or adventure motorcycle.
Most people know that the gestation period for motorcycles is three to four days, depending on the types of motorcycles involved. So the idea that the Shotgun appeared the next day cannot be true. Other than that obvious mistake, it was another very enjoyable and informative video.
Ha ha ha, very droll indeed. Ric, it could have been divine intervention which would explain the immediate appearance of this miraculous motorbike. Ric, ontario canada.
I'm getting very tempted with the Shotgun as an addition to my collection. Royal Enfield were at Squires cafe today when we called in and they were offering test rides, it's a pity I didn't have time. They had a green drill colour Shotgun that really looked fantastic.
The pegs are sitting in the middle of the Interceptor and the Super Meteor peg position, it seems to me. I can't do forward assist like the Super Meteor but the peg position on the Shotgun seem a nice location, they sure would do my one knee a favor.
This motorcycle gives me 1940's Military vibes when studied from the side.
May have to test ride one when they get to the States here. Thanks TBW....good stuff!
Foot pegs were always in the way on my old Interceptor and my dodgy left hip won't let me use forward mounted pegs. The Shotgun pegs cured both of these problems. The colour schemes could be a bit bolder but otherwise I think its a winner.
Love it. Sounds like the perfect 1st big bike for 50 year old, and absolutely appreciate why this will also appeal to new riders who don’t want to be “pigeon holed” and the grey version fills my small category.
Morning Dave. Nice to see you managed to get out on the Shotgun, and have come to pretty much the same conclusions as myself. As you know, I too mentioned the bar risers, or slight higher bars. I have also been saying for ages about the very likely introduction of a Classic 650, mentioning it in my review, as I had seen spy pics quite a while ago. I reckon it will be like this Shotgun, but with bling, spoked wheels and possibly forks similar to the Classic 350.Hopefully the black engine casings will remain, but I doubt that 🫣, so a few tubes of Autosol should be ordered at the same time 😂. These are just my opinion though 😉
Cheers Ian I look forward to the Classic 650 landing….or not landing 😂
Project P3K, the scrambler with a stumpy exhaust like the Hunter should hopefully appear next as its been testing in India for over 18 months now.
The military green is the best color for this model in my opinion. I agree about the physical size difference. Cheers.
Wow, the riding recording looks amazing. Great review, thank you.
I'm still holding out and hoping for a Classic/Bullet 500 single. I believe that, in my opinion, RE has filled the 650 line up just fine, but there's an obvious hole that the 500 single could fill. They should keep it simple. No frills and NO Tripper. Move the speedo over to the middle where it belongs. Do that, RE, and my checkbook will be ready and able.
I was always puzzled by RE's decision to make the new single a 350 to replace the 500. I know that they couldn't develop the existing 500 to meet increasingly strict emissions restrictions & yes they had to design a new engine. I have a 2018 C500 & I love it. A bored-out 350 would make a sensible 500 surely?
We know that there is plenty of room for boring the current 350 to a 500. THAT would make a perfect big thumper and would fit nicely into their heritage. Really, that is all that RE would need to do as the rest of the Classic and Bullet are just fine. I really like your videos.
@@stephenphillip5656
We often see reviewers struggling to precisely label bikes, and then compare the product to "what it should be". Personally, I think attempts at pedantic categorisation can be counter-productive - the reality is, very few owners use their bike exclusively for it's designated "purpose". When something more general purpose comes along it should be received as such. The reality is, there's a grey-scale of actual usage, and whilst aesthetics and image play a significant part in marketing a product, practicality is (at least to me) of primary importance.
If categorisation is necessary, I would describe the Shotgun (at least visually) as simply, "a straightforward utilitarian motorbike" - and I like it all the more for that possibly less marketable label.
You wondered what niche the Shotgun fits… then hit the nail on the head. It does slot neatly into the space vacated by Harley's base model 883 Sportster. It's the ideal economically priced core bike to build your own custom from, but even cheaper than the very basic 883 which fitted that bill so admirably before.
Without doubt the bike looks better without the rear seat(just like the classic 350 does!) I do like the idea of being able to turn the rear seat into a rack very good! You can see RE has improved on its quality of component parts & for me it smacks of Customisation Am going to book a test ride on one ASAP tho am still in love with my Intercepter & have no interest in trading in or selling her! Good video 👍🏻😎
See i think this and the classic look best with the pillion seats hence why im looking at both. If i wanted a single seat I'd buy a triumph bobber in a heart beat lol.
Good review Dave. Like you, it’s the grey one that I would choose.
Having a look at this as my first ‘big bike’ since passing my test.
Another great ride out from you, Dave, punctuated as usual with a comprehensive and entertaining video.
These two 'sisters', whichever is selected, as evidenced by the growing number of very happy bunnies, can only be perpetuated further by those considering joining the ranks. RE simply can't put a foot wrong, presently. 👍
I haven’t ridden either of them but on looks alone I still prefer the meteor.
Yamaha made a great 650 twin back in the mid 70s. If they revived that, they could probably create a bike that would compete with the Shotgun. Thank you for your demonstration at the end, showing how you fit on the bike.
As a fan of twin clock's and stainless/chrome exhausts would i swop my GoldStar for it, not a chance but saying that i did enjoy your review. It will obviously suit plenty but for me it's not as good as the Interceptor infact it looks quite dull compared to one of those.
It is a great looking bike, real value of money.
I reckon the feet forward position works well on twist & rip CVT maxi scooters as there are no foot controls , but on motorcycles it’s big no no for me . I am not a fan of customs , cruisers or bobbers , but if I only had the choice between the Shotgun & Super Meteor I would have to choose the Shotgun . I prefer the feet rests & controls in the standard position & the steeper front fork rake for the handling on sharp country bends ,& shorter wheel base ,manoeuvring ability in city traffic jams . Also if the rumours of a possible RE 650 Bullet or Classic is true ,it needs to be a big single not a twin , as RE have enough 650 twin models in their range already .
As RE keep offering slight tweeks on a basic system I wonder if they have thought of offering a custom service to basically tweak your own bike at the point of purchase.
Eg specify you want spoked or wire wheels, chrome or black exhaust. Bigger front fender, bar end mirrors or Mickey Mouse etc
You could then get exactly what you want without having to use after market options or change things at extra cost.
Just a thought, but they are rife for customising and this could be done at the point of sale which would probably be cheaper to the customer.
They then wouldn’t need so many different models just individually specified machines.
Great business idea there pal….i suppose a bit like that “build your own pizza” thing 😎👍🏻
That's what they do in the domestic market, its called MYI, make it your own.
Bonneville bobber and Speed master are comparable genres to the super meteor and the Shotgun perhaps? And maybe, the Shotgun is the classic 650?. I do wish they'd utilised the same instrument dial as on the new Himalayan on both the Super Meteor and the Shotgun.
The comparison I'd be interested in is with the Interceptor.
Good Morning Dave , A cracking review on this bike , id have to say i do like the gear & brake position as to the forward controls of the sm 650 , so take care & ride safe
Well, you didn't disappoint. I feel you gave the bike a good honest review but more importantly as a Super Meteor owner like my self you could do the proper comparisons. It goes with out saying this bike is based on the Super Meteor and not like any other RE model. The black engine etc does look really nice, I would like that on my SM 650 but also owning a Classic 350 in that "DRAB' gun metal grey 🤣😂🤣I do benefit from not having to clean all that alloy. The rear seat / rack affair is not my cup of tea also. But it will be a fantastic built bike and is very affordable, I am sure RE will sell many. I too wouldn't change my Super Meteor for it. Keep up the great content and honest reviews, makes all the difference when someone testing a bike tells you as it is and not having to please suppliers in fear of not getting another test bike 👍Ride safe
Thank you and will do 😊👍🏻
Another great review Dave, one thing that really disappoints me is the weight of the motorcycle. I want to carry on riding as long as possible so the weight of a motorcycle is an important factor when making a decision of what to buy. I have recently been out on a 2hr demo of the Triumph 400 scrambler and I can honestly say that I was really impressed with it's performance and it's very managable weight. The scrambler weighs 179kg and has 40bhp vs 240kg and 47bhp of the RE 650 twins. I know the RE twins are not not scramblers(well not yet!) but the speed 400 is a retro roadster. I am not a Triumph fanboy and I have never owned a Triumph so I have no bias either way. Perhaps the competition for the Shotgun is the MG V9, Honda CL500, Triumph Bonneville bobber or Benelli 502C?
Yes they’re heavy due to the use of metal panels etc
Watching RUclips videos it seems the only way people know that a panel is plastic and not metal is to go around banging the panel a number of times with their hand. As it is lighter and doesn't rust makes the plastic panel the better option.😂
I agree with your comments. A high quality plastic or aluminium mudguard/chain guard would be my preference. RE bikes are too heavy and the weight of the SM and Shotgun being 240 kg is far more than my old BMW R100 which has a much bigger and heavier engine
Think your prayers may be answered with the new Scram 450 when it comes out.
Riding it I found it a cross between the classic 350 and Interceptor.Very nice seat on it.
21:05 the only problem with this is that there is only so many variations on a theme you can do before it starts to get the same 😏
I'd describe this as Classic Despatch Motorcycle and should be rode by a rider in WW2 Military Uniform 😊
You rode this bike perfectly Dave, you seemed very much at home on this bike.
Cheers Mike 😊👍🏻
Really, this feels more like re moving away from modern classis and making their first sports naked.
It should have hydraulic valve adjustment and belt drive stock from the factory 🏭. Belts last 100,000 + miles with no maintenance. Should have easier access to the valves for adjustment. In the old days you could get a enclosed chain and your chain would last so much longer. All bikes should have twin discs for safety.
A good description of my 2001 Harley Sportster 1200S.
@@splodge5714I have had my Sportster for 25 years and 400,000 miles on the original engine and 37 back tires and 17 front ones and 3 belts in 25 years.My daily driver as I don't have a car.
Royal Enfield have certainly hit the mark with this bike. although down on H.P, in realty-its all you need for road riding. It would sound nice with 2 into one sports exhaust. Just hope they bring out the 650 Classic.
Yea an offshoot bike. Still looks like a bike that can stand on its own. Good review.👍
I like much better the looks of the Super Meteor, but I like much more the ergos of the Shotgun, and I have the feeling swapping parts won't be as easy as it may seem.
Morning David, had a look at the shotgun, nice bike 🏍 but I still prefer my super meteor 😊. Have a nice day. Chris.
I really like the Shot Gun 650. Blue looks really nice, as does the green. Personal preferences here, but I do prefer polished engine cases and chrome zorsts; certainly not a deal breaker for me thought but.
I agree she does sound nice with the oe zorsts and I do like the shape of them.
Question is, would I chop in Edna our beloved 2019 Interceptor? Wifey and I luv that bike. I have chucked a fair bit of wedge on customising her and the Hitchcocks slash cut zorsts sound like the dogs dangly bits. Truth be told, I don’t reckon I can chop Edna in at all; but I still luv the Shot Gun.
Great video; very fair appraisal, you are correct to compare with the Super Meteor and I liked the way you gave the spec differential’s when required.
Your enthusiasm and energy for the bike are infectious, one of the reasons your vids are always so damn enjoyable.
Great work Dave, nice one bud. As always, ride safe fella.
The interceptor remains the choice if you value dynamics. It’s lighter, shorter wheelbase and steeper rake and 18” front wheel all reward the interested in handling. The super meteor is the cruiser with feet forward controls and the shotgun is in the middle essentially suitable for those who require a low seat height. If you don’t want a cruiser or love the shotgun styling then the original twins remain the best for most riders
Great review!
I love my SM 650 as a single seat with Solo seat finisher. RE Barend Mirrors are brilliant!
However, am excited with the Shotgun! But not over the line to trade and buy. (But how bout that floating seat! Love it) I wonder if this is the perfect fit for SM riders who couldn't get on with the more forward foot controls aside from the riders that are full on into custom creations.
I'd always hoped someone would bring out a British cruiser along the lines of the Sunbeam S7/S8. These were heavily influenced by the BMW R75 of the 1930s, a European idea of a cruiser rather than an American one. The Shotgun is quite close. If the much anticipated Classic 650 has the same frame as the Shotgun and Super Meteor, as rumours suggest, it might be quite close to (my) ideal.
The Sunbeam S7 was a terrible bike. The S8 was even worse. True, it was based on the BMW R75 (part of war reparations, like the DKW/BSA Bantam), but Sunbeam scrapped the defining feature of the R75, the boxer engine) in favour of a twin inline with the frame. They also messed up the shaft drive, replacing the bevel gears with a metal grinding worm drive. To mitigate the effects of that, they reduced the power output. Bung on balloon tyres to wreck the handling, and you have all the necessary conditions of the ruination of the British motorcycle industry.
Thank God, current Royal Enfields are significantly better than that. The Raj bites back!
Great review Dave,I’m with you on the grey one,one review I see said it was the worst colour,but I beg to differ.
Great work 👍 I think this bike will appeal to younger riders and create more sales for Royal endfield . I love the look of this bike and I’m going to book a test ride, also I’m looking at the V 7 Moto Guzzi, not worlds apart in cost . I’m sure you’ll know what’s best ?
Guzzi for me 👍🏻
It’s Probably after the triumph bobber mantle with more focused handling. I hope new classic is a single still perhaps the new 450 LC unit? Bulitt 500 ? As you say how many more variants can you do with the twin. Would not look right I reckon.
I think it'll be called Bullet 650, not Classic 650. The spy shots show it with the squared off mudguard top and dual seat, like the new Bullet. Maybe there'll be both though eh!
Think you could be right there
A 650 twin to me won't be a 'Classic' or a 'Bullet'. It will just be a restyled Interceptor platform. I hope they bring out a Classic 500 (or 650) single.
Still undecided on the Shotgun, waiting to see the classic 650 , but if doesn't look exactly like the 350 classic styling including the headlight nacelle, I won't bother with it , in fact it probably won't have the same nacelle as it probably will have a rev counter .
Good review of the Shotgun anyway Dave ,
Cheers Mel 🍻
Cheers Mel let’s see 😎
Did you get to check out the pillion/rack system? I've seen it on other reviews and it definitely looks like a substantial rack, since it doubles as the pillion supports. 😎
Yes it’s a great design feature 😎😉
..personally I see it as a less aggressive (sporty) version of an interceptor for those of us with shorter inseams. Also harks back to the "sporty" cruisers of the early eighties (kz,cbx,virago,gt-l,etc.)
Top review Dave as is Mr Fillinghams I’ve just watched tho I was bored half way through 😂 not of yours tho ofcourse, everyone there was very positive and being oh so nice…… why ? Haha. I say the same thing don’t like the clock, head lamp, rear seat until it’s off and the rear mudguard otherwise it’s an ok bike to me and that’s the best colour to me the blue tho what’s happened to the colour schemes this season …. I don’t bloody know !!
Anyway Dave have a great Easter
Weathers gonna be ok
Stay safe
Phil
Thank you Phil yes a good weekend forecast ride safe my friend 😊👍🏻
Nice review. Re: the decals on the tank in relation to the white, black red combo and the blue versions. I think tank pads may be needed however, it will wreck the look of decals/stickers. Would getting the tank clear wrapped protected be a good alternative? Cheers
There needs to be a good smaller light weight bikes for people to learn on. I think most manufacturers just want to make the huge 1,000 cc-2500 monsters
We need starter bikes for smaller people or for folks who want to ride but feels like no one makes these. I ride an Indian and think they need to address these issues
I'd like to see a Hunter 650 👍, love the styling of the hunter but the 350 is too small for me 😕
How does the RE 650 bike series compare with your V7 Special Edition?
Noticeably less power
I watched “Mr Darcy & The Old Man” yesterday and he was suggesting a new Royal Enfield was being released sometime next week… 👍
He’s better connected than me so maybe there is 😂
The shotgun was the closest thing I could find to a Bobber to add to my collection, CB900FD [1984] Versys 650 [2022] and Suzuki TS250 , when I looked at it I was not impressed with the overall quality in particular the play in the switch gear, and the thin paint, considering its so expensive I've decided to give it a miss. While I did like the style, I just dont have the confidence in it.
Hi there, if you were to be buying now, which bike would you choose.
I appreciate there's not enough of a difference for you to swap, but which one would you choose now?
Super Meteor
Isnt it bonkers how manufacturers make a bike to suit majority then go mad with so many models ......as a owner of two Enfield s the himalayan is box ready me... now I'm starting to worry about how many models they have as getting parts is still very slow....atb....
That bike deserved at least different cams and tune.
I do like these and sat on it, at the Scottish motorcycle show.
But it’s sadly too high and bulky for Wee Mark.
Wish they’d go back to bike heights of the 70’s and early 80’s.😂
But sitting on it, felt, so right.
Logically my only step up from my 500 Rebel is the 1100.
Am keeping the Meteor.😂
But nice review Dave. Not fun been a real short arse, you’re so limited, in choice
Nice video, but I'm afraid I come to this biased in favour of the Super Meteor. I am a Super Meteor owner and when you mention that the seat is "firmer" it made me flinch. Even with the standard factory seat, I can get about 40-50 miles before my rear starts to complain. To be honest, I don't see the point in the Shotgun, especially coming in so soon after the Super Meteor. Once again, I don't like the colour options on the Shogun. Each to their own I guess.
Seems a nice enough bike, Dave, but I don't think it's for me. The colours seem uninspiring and it's still overweight. Gloss black casings are fine, but I'm not a fan of matt exhausts, prefering something shiny. For a solo rider, the built-in luggage rack is a smart idea; for two-up, I'd hope that the pannier straps would be attachable between the rack and the seat. The engines in the RE 650's are all understressed, so they should be pretty-well bullet-proof, if you'll forgive the pun.
Great review. Thank you!!!!!
The chap from Hitchcocks said it sits between the Interceptor and the Super Meteor, which makes sense
Can i replace the front tyre with 130/90 - 18 inch. Not sure if this is possible. The current front tyre is 100/90-18
As i understand this bike is supposed to fall into the “bobber” category and is supposed to be more customizable by a tinkerer.
You need one of these…Praps the best bike RE do
New royal enfield or old sportster? Help!
Get the Sportster. Hydraulic valve adjustment and belt drive means all you have to do is change the fluids and filter in 30 minutes in my driveway. Belts last 100,000+ miles with no maintenance. I have had my Sportster for 25 years and 400,000 miles on the original engine and 37 back tires and 17 front ones and 3 belts in 25 years. RE recomends engine rebuild at 65,000 miles. Lots of accessories and performance up grades. Sportsters are rebuidable forever ♾️. You can buy a good one for $2,500 or less a great bargain. Change the oil regularly and the bike will last forever. On a rubber mounted Sportster change the riveted clutch plate in the clutch and you are good to go. Sportsters 883 is not fast but 1200 has more HP but you can put a 1275 kit on a883. I love my Sportster 883. Very economical and fun to ride . Get one and you won't be disappointed.
There's no comparison. My 2001 Sportster 1200S is in a different class to the RE's.
@@splodge5714 Yeah much better class. Sportsters are rebuidable forever ♾️. I ride all the time because I don't have a car. So l put tons of miles on them. HD made a heinous decision to discontinued the Sportster. SWM and their copy of the EVO Sportsters are going to knock RE 650 out of the park. Sportsters are not a gateway to the big twins. It's a motorcycle unto itself.
I know it's a few bob more but I prefer the Triumph Speedmaster. Nice review, cheers.
I would rather see the SHOTGUN with a belt final drive & bigger fuel tank & different instruments.
Great video…. Looks more like a cross between a bobber & a cruiser. A Bobcru or Crubob!? 😅
Looks like the handlebars are 70mm wider on the Super Meteor.
Are you going to review the new bsa 650. Enjoy your videos just subscribed
Thank you for subscribing Paul….the BSA Gold Star review is a few videos back….great bike
@@thebingleywheeler thank you
I like this a lot better than the Super Meteor. Better footpeg position. I like the offset dash and the look of it. But the bike is too heavy, and I'm no RE fan. Chrome on motorbikes is like gold on women: tacky.
Exactly how I feel about blacked out pipes, so dull.
I tend to agree, it reminds me of years ago when the chrome was pitted and rusty (MZ exhausts?) the cheap option was to go to Halfords and buy a can of Pot Black heat resisting paint and paint downpipes and silencers with this. It looked okay for a short while then the rust returned and it looked dire again!@@ianhalliwell8604
Gracias!
The colour schemes l've seen (inc this one) are appalling and do the bike no favours at all. Nice vid again. 👍
1st off I like that t shirt. " from each according to their ability, to each according their needs.
My interest is how does it compare to the Interceptor in seating position, I have an Interceptor and love it, but due to my size ( large !!! or XXXFB) my joint issues are a problem, Is the Shotgun more suited to the taller rider ? i don't like the forewords position of the Meteor, sorry Dave .
More relaxed than interceptor 👍🏻
Of interest to me does the lack of wind screen make for a more relaxed ride on the Shotgun over the super metour as a lot bufferting is found on the super Metour with screen ??
Very little difference for me 👍🏻
I think you guys in the UK need larger license plates on your bikes... I can barely make those out!!! lol
Bikes can pare it down a bit and get away with it.
Nice bike, my only criticism & it's only my own, is i don't like the name "shotgun", other than that it would have to be green, i don't mind the blacked out engine as like you say much easier to maintain appearance. It looks cruiser like, it looks a tad like my suzy boulevard s40 which is a cruiser. For myself, 2 whls, 1 motor, handlebars etc. = motorcycle, tonnes of fun, almost but not quite as good as sex. Ric, ontario canada, thanks for the demo.
I'm disappointed that all the running gear is black and I was thinking it would be more like my 2020 Classic 500.
I was wanting one but to spend 12,000 a bike I'm not happy with won't be happening.
Which do you think is most comfortable over a long journey(a road and motorway).The shotgun, interceptor or the MG v7?
Interceptor
@@thebingleywheeler interesting I was expecting you to say the v7. I guess may be different for me at 5’7’’
All their bikes are good-looking. I don't quite trust them...their metallurgy! If they re always wanting to rearrange things except what needs the most, the lackluster engine!
Do you think the shotgun wood work with a sidecar I'm recovering from accident at work so may need to go that way moving forward thanks
Eminently suitable for chairing I’d say 👍🏻
Heyup, left in a room overnight ,,was this the "mechanical conception?" TommyTickle
I will say it again, it needed to look more like the concept than a Meteor with weight problems.
I'd class the shotgun 650 as a bobber..🎉
true blue colour ;; lovely , maybe an extra 5 bhp just to make it different to the rest = even if not needed rather than a too similar range , after all it is called 'shotgun ' dry roads = you lottery winner you ;;
I like this, I'm going to book a test ride with my local dealer, Manhattan motorcycles Sheffield (great team) 🎉 thanks , bw 😂❤
Go for it Martine and let me know what you think. Not heard of Manhattan Motorcycles are they anywhere near Via Moto? ❤️
Not really. Manhatten are on the A61, London Road, Heeley. I bought my Interceptor from them. Really good set of lads.
Cheers 😊👍🏻
@@martinowl I bought my hunter 350 from there.. thank you Martin, it's still Sheffield
@@thebingleywheeler Dave they are a family owned great customer service small dealership, if you're in the area call in Steve , Paul and the team will be chuffed.. 💚
would have liked to know where in the 32 minutes you talked about suspension and brakes without having to watch all of it.
Why no spoked wheels?!
Tubeless
I trust the 'Marx' T shirt is not indicative of your politics?
I wasn't sure if it was Bobby Ball
I never discuss my politics 👍🏻
I thought it was Des Lynham.😂
What’s your problem ?
Certainly not you.@@Papawcanner
Great reviews as always Dave,.. however as said before, rushed in to production, and really don’t see the point of it,…still sounds like a wet fart😮
After watching this channel for awhile, I have come to realize that I am not a big fan of Royal Enfield's current crop. I do like the models from the 60's. These not so much at all. Their bikes seem vanilla to me. I really love his Moto Guzzi.
The Guzzi is fantastic
😂😂😂 'Premature projection' 😂😂😂
At 17:20 the words your looking for are "shitiiiing Peugeot" dave .
😂😂😂
Ive just come back from Tokyo motor show and both Triumph and Enfield have nailed it ,, Honda sorry ,,,,,,, The enfield 350 classic lovely and the price ,,,Triumph 400 the price you cant even get a second-hand bike for that money ! Honda ya dumb arses ...get ya head out of sand
There there little Cub don’t listen to the nasty man on the telly… I think your colour is lovely... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now I feel proper bad😂
@@thebingleywheeler 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like all RE products it is overrated. Its a Interceptor with a new seat,
I understand where you are coming from but I thought the interceptor and Contnental have different frames and suspension? The engine seems to be the only carry over. The SM and shotgun are virtually the same with some minor tweeks. The weight of these bikes would make it a no no for me.
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At 7.50, i hope in the interests of inclusiveness, that a non binary interceptor was also invited to the amalgamation.😊
Silly name.
If they bring out a new model they'll probably call it the Cruise Missile.