Shout out to all the people who risk their life and safety for others. Thank you so much. I, myself don’t have the guts to put myself in that position. Some people are so selfless and it shows. Bless us all.
Yes, she never offends those that she is investigating and/or interviewing and I really love that she is willing to do what she does for us to learn. Though I would understand if she chooses to retire as this is such a dangerous job. She is SUCH a boss lady!
Informative. I wish this documentary would focus in on the parents paying for this service. She keeps saying that the black market doesn't operate without the doctors. No. None of this operates without the people who pay and turn a blind eye to the harm they're causing.
vincent’s “dad” saying “thank you” like he did anything other than create an extremely dangerous situation for two other people makes me sick to my stomach
At first I thought this was about babies being sold in the black market and not even about surrogacy. Here in the Philippines, some people here sell their own baby and you can even buy it online. Just a horrible thing.
As a Kenyan, this is very devastating and shameful to watch. I hope better laws are formulated to protect these women and pay them what they deserve! Thank you Mariana for covering this.
I hope she does an episode on the trafficking of people from Uganda and Kenya to the Middle East mentioned in this episode. It is a huge problem. Their passports are stolen so that cannot leave, they are abused, and many people go missing. Still, I have a friend who has been debating going for many years to support his growing family. People are promised a lot of money, but it’s so risky.
She is not the mother and they are acting 6 times her yearly salary. If anything they are providing her with an opportunity she could never get in her country
From personal experience, you've gotta get that child as far away from the mother as possible. That mother is going to have mood swings or change her mind and you don't want that.
Right. If you are going to bring a child into this world using a surrogate you should consider the person carrying that baby. That childs going to find out the truth one day.
Sickening. So many children and babies left to basically fend for themselves here in the US foster and adoption system and people feel the need to exploit people already fighting for their lives in a war zone just to get a baby.
As a mother to 5 daughters, it absolutely terrifies me that one day I will leave them on this earth and won’t be here if something like this happens to them 😢
How can foregin couples be ok with how their babies begin their lives? There is so much about this entire industry which is just beyond corrupt but at the en of the day if I assume the surrogate parents just don't care about anything but their babies HOW can they let those babies begin in these conditions?
If this isn’t hard enough to hear and watch but important - to hear a CHILD referred to as “A Product” is just horrifying. For any one good idea in life it’s like there is 10x Evil
Those Ukrainian doctors handing over the child to the Asian couple look like a couple of butchers or chicken meat processors at a plant somewhere in Texas- just rough and sloppy!
Very good investigative reporting. This is a major reason why we protect woman in the west, with laws such as child support, to keep woman and especially children out of poverty.
My daugther is a black market kid, dutch governement took her from me because i have a handicap, they did not even wanne give me a chance to show that i could care for her, that was no option for them , only money was a option for them over my and my daugthers back , sold her to a family for 40.000 put her in a town to far away for me to go to... this happends worldwide, i have the luck my kid is still in the netherlands but not every parent is that lucky
They didn’t give the option for a relative or a known friend to foster her? I did not realize this happened. I always took the Netherlands to be very progressive
The extreme drop in fertility/birth rates and the concept of surrogacy (especially how it was portrayed in the advertisement in Ukraine) feels so The Handmaid's Tale-dystopian it's really disconcerting...
The lengths of human greed is sick and the denial vile. “Love” isn’t a motive to go around every natural norm to have a baby. It is selfishness and not accepting the life given to you on this earth that leads these couples to seek alternative routes or in other words, human trafficking. My heart only goes out to the baby and surrogate mother; regardless if it not her biological child, these babies develop attachment and bond with their mothers which would be the ones carrying them. Their joys, their sadness, the stresses are all linked to these babies, many factors affecting a subconscious loss that affects them for the rest of their lives. In most cases, these mothers develop deep, conscious and subconscious attachments that ultimately leads to a grief in their loss. Then you have the manipulation and coercion to convince these women into giving in to a web of predators in all aspects: pimps, facilitators, lawyers, agencies, doctors. My heart breaks for these poor women and the babies they carry
I Feel sorry for Ashley i cant imagine who can do such things to her the new mom and father for this boy Ashley delivered how they feel ? THIS WORLD CAME TO AN END
With subjects like these I don’t know if I can take the “outrage” from viewers seriously. Same people taken aback by this often are the same people who shame women for being childfree or childless. If only the global society would let go of the notion that a woman is only fulfilled by having a child. Also I find the adoption and foster argument just as disingenuous. The adoption/foster industry has the same trafficking and ethical issues as the surrogacy industry.
Most under rated comment. This is horrible, babies should no be products. It tragic being infertile, but taking a baby from someone else seems a lot worse than finding a way to be content with the cards debt in life.
Yep! If they had suffered pregnancy loss, they would not judge the foreign couples. Desire for a child especially after a loss will drive you to do 'immoral'things such as use an underpaid/nonpaid surrogates. I doubt the parents know how these surrogates are treated though.
wow, as a patriot it's interesting to actually have Mariana come to Kenya, welcome and thank you Van Zeller; it;s really an honor to for you to travel around the world and also come and shine a spotlight to matters like this happening in the fringes of the current regime; an administrative system awash with "wash wash - an ideal to cheat the system and launder funds", absolutely not great for the health of our democratic ideals...ideals i deem to stand for as a taxpayer, and an aspiring citizen; at a very humane level, surrogacy is shrouded in lots of secrecy, great sacrifice and i believe continual demand in the backdrop of a gloomy economic perpetuates a culture of incentivize and creates a whole "dark economy" with no sign of dire legal consequences beckoning for the "big fish" perpetrators investing in the whole food chain
Because these babies are either bought from very rich and powerful people who either can't have babies of their own or they DO "STUFF" to the babies, unfortunately babies are also human trafficked in ANY way you can imagine.
There's tens of thousands of children available for adoption in the US thru CPS and it's very inexpensive. However, these greedy people are wanting genetically engineered humans.
This wasn’t about buying babies; They’re renting wombs because they cannot carry babies to term on their own. It’s their biological babies being carried by other women.
I personally wouldnt be a surrogate for no amount of money..but a lot of women do and will..kenya needs to regulate this..and the women get the proper amount of money and top care healthcare..and be free to come and go as they please..as payment dont get finalised until birth.
The stork flying around! IVF-created embryos are not "implanted." They are "transferred." Whether the embryo later implants depends on various factors.
It's strange yet unsuprising how the foreign couples adopting children from countries at war/in turmoil barely spare a thought for the mother outside of her womb. I'm sure many don't care if the person that created the child they covet will live or die after they get what they want. They "spent the money" even though they purposefully go to these countries because it's cheaper. They're clearly taking advantage of these women, it may not be malicious and I do feel bad for couples experiencing infertity, but I can't help but feel awful.
People often claim Russia was the aggressor, but in 2014, Ukraine carried out attacks that harmed civilians in regions with strong ties to Russia just days before the Russian military intervened. While some paint Russia as the sole ‘bad guy’ in the conflict, it’s worth questioning the actions of Ukraine For instance, why does Ukraine conduct child trafficking, and get less scrutiny?
I don't care who you are or what situation you are in if someone tells you not to tell anybody not to go anywhere there is a reason its because they are going to disappear on you And Or it's illegal
These black markets for babies exist around the world, even in the US ; this would have been a really interesting documentary if you were not so focused on adding a racial aspect to it
I will say, as someone who has two friends who each adopted 3 siblings from foster care, most kids in foster care are not up for adoption. It’s very hard to raise a baby for a year or two, love that child like your own, and then have your hand them back to unfit parents.
They are telling the mom that their baby have died or they give you no choice to became a surrogate mom and they are getting sold to rich family all over the world.. this is sad 😢so so sad
Shout out to all the people who risk their life and safety for others. Thank you so much. I, myself don’t have the guts to put myself in that position. Some people are so selfless and it shows. Bless us all.
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Brave professionals like Mariana make a huge impact on our world 👏
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❤❤❤Amen and may Jesus protect them and the children
Anytime I see a show from Marianna, I will ALWAYS watch it. She's a badass reporter with nerves of steel that always walks away respected.💛☮️💛☮️
Yes, she never offends those that she is investigating and/or interviewing and I really love that she is willing to do what she does for us to learn. Though I would understand if she chooses to retire as this is such a dangerous job. She is SUCH a boss lady!
Marianna is so cool. Professional, curious, and empathetic.
Informative. I wish this documentary would focus in on the parents paying for this service. She keeps saying that the black market doesn't operate without the doctors. No. None of this operates without the people who pay and turn a blind eye to the harm they're causing.
Exactly! This is 100% the irresponsible parent's fault!
Thats why i am so confused about this documentary...the real issue is not being addressed
YES!!!
Excellent point
Is it the parents’ fault or the system’s??
This is gonna break my heart to watch but how can you not. These poor babies
So then don't watch it
@ccruz8225 that's quite ignorant. If I ignored everything that made me uncomfortable or brought up feelings, id be dead inside.
Poor women as well.
@vanna9379 exactly, it's so hard to see but needs no be seen and acted on
I had watched an investigation of rich men buying infants to sa them until they are no longer living
vincent’s “dad” saying “thank you” like he did anything other than create an extremely dangerous situation for two other people makes me sick to my stomach
Thank you for the investigation. It shines light on human rights violation
This was sooo interesting to watch. Thank you for reporting and bringing awareness to this topic!
I'm just amazed by her braveness...
Who ? The host
@@jasonblack6142just another one that watched 2 mins then commented lol.
At first I thought this was about babies being sold in the black market and not even about surrogacy. Here in the Philippines, some people here sell their own baby and you can even buy it online. Just a horrible thing.
Nigeria has a similar situation
Its kind a the same thing
@n0tfr0mth1sw0rld No, its not.
Online 😮😮?
@AnnahNjuguna yes
As a Kenyan, this is very devastating and shameful to watch. I hope better laws are formulated to protect these women and pay them what they deserve! Thank you Mariana for covering this.
Ama babies are the new "Quail farming?"....Lazima hata mimi nitraffic
@@brianmaitai7685you are stupid. May God judge you for your motives!
Very sad
I hope she does an episode on the trafficking of people from Uganda and Kenya to the Middle East mentioned in this episode. It is a huge problem. Their passports are stolen so that cannot leave, they are abused, and many people go missing. Still, I have a friend who has been debating going for many years to support his growing family. People are promised a lot of money, but it’s so risky.
No matter the reason couples can't conceive the idea that they can 'rent' a woman and her womb sickens me.
It is terrible that the parents only care about the baby and leave the birth Mother in a war zone. That just seems wrong to me.
She is not the mother and they are acting 6 times her yearly salary. If anything they are providing her with an opportunity she could never get in her country
From personal experience, you've gotta get that child as far away from the mother as possible. That mother is going to have mood swings or change her mind and you don't want that.
@@nickwinn That sounds very selfish and cruel.
Mariana Van Zeller always does amazing investigative journalism! I wish the world was a better place
He gets paid $40k to pay them less than $5k 👀👀👀 and has the audacity to say he is being nice to them 👀👀👀..
It’s so incredibly sad that we live in a world where people do this type of stuff. Heartbreaking
Surrogacy is so messed up on so many levels
Frl never thought it was something right the way they manipulate women into thinking it’s a good thing is just baffling
Rich countries taking advantage of poorer nations, shame!
No not really. Poor nations take advantage of their poor
O.M.G it happens in my country too! 😳🇰🇪 Thanks for the coverage Maria
It's happening everywhere
Prospective parents should not USE surrogates in war-torn areas. Think of the woman and the children!
Right. If you are going to bring a child into this world using a surrogate you should consider the person carrying that baby. That childs going to find out the truth one day.
Thanks for your coverage Maria!!!!!! The bravery of this woman to even be in the room sometimes is so admirable
Taking a baby from its mother and pretending its yours. Humanity has lost its sanity.
But that's not it
Not her baby. They have no right to claim the babies
@@autumnishotterthansummerif it came out her private it’s her child tf
@@sharonndunge1933if it came out her 🐱it’s her
Sickening. So many children and babies left to basically fend for themselves here in the US foster and adoption system and people feel the need to exploit people already fighting for their lives in a war zone just to get a baby.
As a mother to 5 daughters, it absolutely terrifies me that one day I will leave them on this earth and won’t be here if something like this happens to them 😢
U r such a great mom ❤️❤️❤️ Don’t overthink, surely god will always protect them
Marianna Van Zeller in Kenya? You know it's gotta be a very interesting discovery and a MAJOR ONE!
This reminds me of how my mother was adopted from 1945 Poland, as a WWII orphan, to my Creole [adoptive] grandparents in Baton Rouge, LA.
"orphan"
Having sw carry your baby is completely insane.
That for sure it’s not normal but hey people like abnormal things
@Oly88-hj3uq yes they do lol
Why can't people just adopt.... why go through all this pain and suffering
Adoption is harder
That’s honestly very sad they get 20-40k and give them ladies 800$ is very sick ! Kenya is full of greed !
Wow, what an eye opener! Thank you for sharing. Sending love from Ontario Canada. ☃️
The world is a scary place to be living in 😢
How can foregin couples be ok with how their babies begin their lives? There is so much about this entire industry which is just beyond corrupt but at the en of the day if I assume the surrogate parents just don't care about anything but their babies HOW can they let those babies begin in these conditions?
The Baby will remember. Terrible😢
The real issue here is the war and the fact that surrogacy is not widely and legally available in other countries.
This definitely need a part 2
If this isn’t hard enough to hear and watch but important - to hear a CHILD referred to as “A Product” is just horrifying. For any one good idea in life it’s like there is 10x Evil
Those Ukrainian doctors handing over the child to the Asian couple look like a couple of butchers or chicken meat processors at a plant somewhere in Texas- just rough and sloppy!
I think the reporter specifically used that incendiary word. No one else used that word.
@ right. And doesn’t make it any less horrifying. I don’t care who says /said it.
Very good investigative reporting. This is a major reason why we protect woman in the west, with laws such as child support, to keep woman and especially children out of poverty.
Another amazing journalistic journey with Mariana.
Actually, you just make me realize what happens with the women in the other countries , it's an amazing investigation.
My daugther is a black market kid, dutch governement took her from me because i have a handicap, they did not even wanne give me a chance to show that i could care for her, that was no option for them , only money was a option for them over my and my daugthers back , sold her to a family for 40.000 put her in a town to far away for me to go to... this happends worldwide, i have the luck my kid is still in the netherlands but not every parent is that lucky
They didn’t give the option for a relative or a known friend to foster her? I did not realize this happened. I always took the Netherlands to be very progressive
god bless you. thats just evil. not right
Thats a very nice way to use your skills, rescuing not making war. Rescue the babies 🙏🙏🙏 and pregnant women 😭 and kids
The extreme drop in fertility/birth rates and the concept of surrogacy (especially how it was portrayed in the advertisement in Ukraine) feels so The Handmaid's Tale-dystopian it's really disconcerting...
That series is so dark..people don't care, everyone feels entitled to have what they want
i read the handmaid's tale just two days ago... now i understand this comment
Wakenya ni wakora kila sector.woi these poor women😢😢
Anapewa less than 500k 🤦🏽
@@martinmurimi2815 sadly this is true
And it's other Kenyan women taking advantage of them
@blondie8524 that's the sad part
This is exactly why adoption in the US has to become more affordable and achievable.
Zeller's videos are my absolute favourite, this one was really emotional
Corruption can never be stopped in this world 🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎 human beings are very deadly.
On my view, this is inter-connected with the incidents of mukuru kwa njenga quarry. Kudos 👏 Mariana Van Zeller.
Thank you. Finally getting this knowledge out to the general public.
Very sad for those children. They will never be normal not matter how much material things, those parents give them ⁉️😢.
Kenya tumefikiwa 😢...
Mariana 👏👏👏👏
As a Kenyan this is heartbreaking. 😔 We need better policies.
The lengths of human greed is sick and the denial vile. “Love” isn’t a motive to go around every natural norm to have a baby. It is selfishness and not accepting the life given to you on this earth that leads these couples to seek alternative routes or in other words, human trafficking. My heart only goes out to the baby and surrogate mother; regardless if it not her biological child, these babies develop attachment and bond with their mothers which would be the ones carrying them. Their joys, their sadness, the stresses are all linked to these babies, many factors affecting a subconscious loss that affects them for the rest of their lives. In most cases, these mothers develop deep, conscious and subconscious attachments that ultimately leads to a grief in their loss. Then you have the manipulation and coercion to convince these women into giving in to a web of predators in all aspects: pimps, facilitators, lawyers, agencies, doctors. My heart breaks for these poor women and the babies they carry
Very well said! Thank you 🙏🏽
Well Vincent has the first chapter of his story documented.
Yes he does
It’s almost kind of unfair to the baby. Its not like he’s even got a say in the matter
Why Kenya ...
Cause in Kenya we get away with a lot of things
Being a Kenyan this hits hard🥺
Mariana e a melhor jornalista do mundo a fazer este tipo de investigacao.
This is sooo wrong on sooo many levels...exploitation of the poor 💔
EXCELLENT DOCUMENTARY!!!
this is too hard for me to watch...I already see...my heart breaks
She is a very brave woman 💯💯💯💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Am shocked we are this desperate....
I Feel sorry for Ashley i cant imagine who can do such things to her the new mom and father for this boy Ashley delivered how they feel ? THIS WORLD CAME TO AN END
Sylvie appreciation comment, such a sweet soul!❤
She had such an awareness of her situation. And seemed positive, inspite of her situation.
Big hugs and mojo for the people reporting this❤
The whole thing is crazy to me
could someone tell me why trafficked season 2, 3, 4 aren't available on Disney+hotstar?
And some people are busy fighting silhouettes and AI images!
Is not AI images
With subjects like these I don’t know if I can take the “outrage” from viewers seriously. Same people taken aback by this often are the same people who shame women for being childfree or childless. If only the global society would let go of the notion that a woman is only fulfilled by having a child. Also I find the adoption and foster argument just as disingenuous. The adoption/foster industry has the same trafficking and ethical issues as the surrogacy industry.
Most under rated comment. This is horrible, babies should no be products. It tragic being infertile, but taking a baby from someone else seems a lot worse than finding a way to be content with the cards debt in life.
Yep! If they had suffered pregnancy loss, they would not judge the foreign couples. Desire for a child especially after a loss will drive you to do 'immoral'things such as use an underpaid/nonpaid surrogates. I doubt the parents know how these surrogates are treated though.
Ppl who can’t conceive should adopt!! They are obviously not meant to have their own biological child!! Simple adopt!!
Thanking for making this and going to all the places and doing the research,glad this is getting awareness
It should be legalized in Kenya, so that proper measures can be taken, the more hidden it is the more dangerous it becomes.
When Ruto hears about it he will because he likes money 😂
if its made legal,youll see the evil that comes out of it because now everyone who can,will want a piece of the money coming out of it..
You need to do an episode on the new school baby heroine (kratom)
wow, as a patriot it's interesting to actually have Mariana come to Kenya, welcome and thank you Van Zeller; it;s really an honor to for you to travel around the world and also come and shine a spotlight to matters like this happening in the fringes of the current regime; an administrative system awash with "wash wash - an ideal to cheat the system and launder funds", absolutely not great for the health of our democratic ideals...ideals i deem to stand for as a taxpayer, and an aspiring citizen; at a very humane level, surrogacy is shrouded in lots of secrecy, great sacrifice and i believe continual demand in the backdrop of a gloomy economic perpetuates a culture of incentivize and creates a whole "dark economy" with no sign of dire legal consequences beckoning for the "big fish" perpetrators investing in the whole food chain
I was only able to watch this for 5 min. As a father this infuriates me. Why is nothing being done about this?
Because these babies are either bought from very rich and powerful people who either can't have babies of their own or they DO "STUFF" to the babies, unfortunately babies are also human trafficked in ANY way you can imagine.
Big money talks...🎉😮😢
More harm than good.
Mariana is the best
Is there no american children they can adopt instead of buying babies
Adoption in America (or any Western country) is a long and expensive process.
There's tens of thousands of children available for adoption in the US thru CPS and it's very inexpensive. However, these greedy people are wanting genetically engineered humans.
@@IainPetteadopting a child from CPS in the US is neither an expensive nor particularly long process. I know 3 people who have adopted that way.
People just want an excuse so they can have their own biology carry on, especially men. But also you could up with a Crack baby.
This wasn’t about buying babies; They’re renting wombs because they cannot carry babies to term on their own. It’s their biological babies being carried by other women.
This is heartbreaking. Young women being exploited
I personally wouldnt be a surrogate for no amount of money..but a lot of women do and will..kenya needs to regulate this..and the women get the proper amount of money and top care healthcare..and be free to come and go as they please..as payment dont get finalised until birth.
This! Surrogacy can help both parties when it is well-regulated.
The stork flying around!
IVF-created embryos are not "implanted." They are "transferred." Whether the embryo later implants depends on various factors.
It's strange yet unsuprising how the foreign couples adopting children from countries at war/in turmoil barely spare a thought for the mother outside of her womb. I'm sure many don't care if the person that created the child they covet will live or die after they get what they want. They "spent the money" even though they purposefully go to these countries because it's cheaper. They're clearly taking advantage of these women, it may not be malicious and I do feel bad for couples experiencing infertity, but I can't help but feel awful.
When I looked at these things it feels do sad to me
@NatGeo. Tell the algofukmerythm to beat it!
People often claim Russia was the aggressor, but in 2014, Ukraine carried out attacks that harmed civilians in regions with strong ties to Russia just days before the Russian military intervened. While some paint Russia as the sole ‘bad guy’ in the conflict, it’s worth questioning the actions of Ukraine For instance, why does Ukraine conduct child trafficking, and get less scrutiny?
Great watch
I don't care who you are or what situation you are in if someone tells you not to tell anybody not to go anywhere there is a reason its because they are going to disappear on you And Or it's illegal
Safehouse=prison
Exactly, just like Planned Parenthood and Dept of ChildrenandFamilies=child trafficking!😮😢
😳😳😳 Kenya my country.
i was really shocked to see kenyans just wow
These series makes me feel like Blacklist Web Series were made by someone from such grey shade hands on experience :)
These black markets for babies exist around the world, even in the US ; this would have been a really interesting documentary if you were not so focused on adding a racial aspect to it
Mariana ..my queen
If you want a child but you are inferile just adopt it, do not do this kind of weird surrogacy things...
Do you even under how surrogacy works??
There is no "just" about it for many people. It's absurdly difficult.
We have 400,000 children in foster care...but I guess people want their own biological child this much
I will say, as someone who has two friends who each adopted 3 siblings from foster care, most kids in foster care are not up for adoption. It’s very hard to raise a baby for a year or two, love that child like your own, and then have your hand them back to unfit parents.
So there is no donation site to help Dynamo?
26:04, could it explain why the agencies ask the girls to go through a myriad of health checkups
Great documentary. The special effects were a little much…
The kenya maternal stats have changed very much
Kenyans can do any thing to fix their hunger...Huh
Why to create so more humans if so many millions live so miserably already?
It’s ridiculous how people will pay to have a child , risking the life of another woman .
They are telling the mom that their baby have died or they give you no choice to became a surrogate mom and they are getting sold to rich family all over the world.. this is sad 😢so so sad
This is terrible and completely the parent's fault!
It is so incredibly selfish to chose surrogacy. It is disturbing the lengths people will go to to have their own biological children.
This
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So sad.
My cousin adopted a baby on the black Market
Loss the baby two years after the adoption.😢😢😢😢😮😮😮😢😮😢😮