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Scotty when I was 16 years old Michelin came out with a new tire. They claimed it was so long lasting , you didn't even need to put a mileage warranty on it. So they put a 4-year warranty instead.
I was 16 years old and they had just sold me a set of tires, they said when these ones wear out son come on back for more.. for free, in the next 4 years.
Scotty I had a Camaro, I was out there having a blast.
That tire shop put four sets of tires on my car, in 4 years for one original purchase price.
I recently purchased cheap-ish tyres, £35 each here in the UK called THREE-A P306
ain’t wrong about the dry rotting my older drift tires the tread went down but they still held up for a good while and they ended up giving out and blew out on me while driving but it ended up being the dry rotting on the inside wall and outside walls from sitting for a couple years
Scotty adopt me haha u cool for a cuhcasian
While I agree with you, I've run into tire places that will not install tires that aren't rated above the top speed of the vehicle. Once tried to get ones rated 112 for the 2000 Accord my wife used to have and they wouldn't do it. I even dared them to name one place in the US where 112 wouldn't already be considered "reckless driving".
For me it's not about speed ratings; it's about handling, grip and hydroplane resistance. I just put Micheline Pilot 4S All seasons on my Mazda. They are rated at some ridiculously high speed, my Mazda would never reach that speed, but I love the way they handle, and if they save one crash because of their ability to stick to the road and not hydroplane when I make an error in judgement, the extra cost is worth it. Why the all-seasons you might ask, well this way they will last long enough for me to wear them out before the rot, but won't cost me an arm and a leg replacing them as often as the summer-only Pilots.
my all season 168 mph rated nitto’s have been great on my 14’ taurus went with a 245/55/19 , great looking tire they like to turn grey fast, but tread wear is minimal after 40k miles of driving . They were about 1200. Very tough, kinda rough . great traction in winter, not as much in summer besides at high speeds they do awesome; they are kind of heavy.
Everyone DROOLS over michelin PILOT because they are always so AWESOME ❤😮 💪 🇬🇧
I put a new set of Michelin Defenders on my 2020 Ranger. I have 10,000 miles on them already and I've noticed a difference in ride quality, and braking compared to the original Bridgestone's that came with the truck. Don't compromise on tires...they're the only thing that attaches your vehicle to the road.
my Michelin Defender have 60k on them & still have lots of tread. I'd buy again in a second! Keep them rotated . It pays off NOT to go cheap on tires, save your $ somewhere else!!!!!
Bridgestone are terrible anyways amazing it didn't need new ones right after you bought it.
@@festerhairball6588 Yes sir and I'll bet if you replaced with the same OEM Bridgestones it would not be cheap! It is great to get first hand feedback from people who have actually used a tire, so you aren't just buying a name at a particular price point and ending up with crap!
@@regularpit1508 Wow something must have happened to their quality, in the 90s Bridgestone was a solid reference for just about any type of tire. IN the day I bought a really nice 89 Accord SEI with leather...what a nice car but the hard slick Michelin MXV tires would leave you in the ditch with the slightest wet or snow! I put on a set of Bridgestone Potenza or Terranza?, and was a staggering improvement and never had traction issues again...and improved the ride and handling...times change I guess!
Tires that come on a brand new car usually are sub standard traction and last 40k to 50k tops if you rotate when you should every 5k at least and check the air once a month. Most folks neglect rotating and checking air, you usually need more than the door recommends for tire pressure for max life and even wear. The front tires go bald on the shoulders, the outsides, and the rear tires go bald in the center. You never rotate you have steel cables showing and leaking air out of the front tires after 20k to 25k miles, if it's a little light car, the back tires will look nearly brand spanking new. If it is front wheel drive. I know it all, seen it all, done lots of tinkering, you'd be surprised what 2 psi difference can make so your tires wear more evenly. I had an 86 Honda Crx, very light 2600 pounds empty. I could grab the rear fenders and lift the tires 2 inches off the ground, I weigh 160 pounds. Front wheel drive, 195 55 r15 WR rated toyo F4's, wore perfectly even with 36 psi in the front tires and 32 psi in the rears. All the power is being put down by the fronts and thats where most of the weight is. Allwheel drive never mix tire psi, rotate more often and keep perfectly even psi in all four tires. Rotate and balance every 3500 miles. Allwheel drive cars are all tire Killers. Then, when they are too different in tread depth, you damage the differentials and transmission. Tires are neglected and you blow a differential or transmission under warranty, they check your tires first, more than 3% tread depth difference from front to rear or left to right, like if you blew one tire and only got one new tire, warranty voided. You are supposed to shave that new tire to match your other tires or get 4 new tires. Oh so much to learn, that so many folks neglect to learn about their Subaru. It isn't Subarus problems, it's simple physics, you have to take extra care of all wheel drive vehicles or you will pay extra money when they go boom. Volvos too. Seeing it so many times it's sad everytime nice people don't have the money, kids cars that parents gave them and they just didn't learn how to care for the car. I'm not calling anybody bad I'm just begging save money read the owner's manual, take the cheap constant care of the car and you won't be left stranded and with a huge bill that costs more than the cars value, all the best take care. P.S. I've seen well over 70 Subaru's totaled because parents took good care of the car, gave it to their kids, kids didn't do basic maintenance like rotating the tires. They all blew a transmission and before 130 thousand miles. They show up with a flat tire and it barely shifts, they have 2 or more different tread patterns and tread depths on the tires, meaning they blew tires out, only replaced one, drove on a flat until the tire was toast rather than pulling over and putting the spare on. Oh fhe car won't shoft gear's, you need a new set of four tires and a $4800 transmission and that's just parts, not labor, and you have no idea how bad you chewed up the three differentials. Complicated rigs that perform very well need way more simple and constant love man. Just the way it is.
I spent 10 years recovering road accidents for a living. Common theme in many accidents is cheap tyres. Cheap tyres tend to break traction suddenly, leading to unpredictable handling. A good quality tyre will loose grip much more slowly, giving you time to respond in a more controlled manner
What are some stats on that? I've got the cheapest cheaps from ebay, $75 per tire
@@ianmoore322 I just bought tires Michelin tires and can't wait to use them but Mike tundra needs to be repaired first the engine has over 300,000 miles on it runs like a top if only the tires could keep up.
@@thomaspalos5280 Michelin’s are great, I love my PS4Ss! Obviously not a tire you’d put on a tundra but still the same manufacturer. My dad has had Michelin tires on his Ram 1500 for the longest time and he loves them too! I’ve tried many of the big name manufacturers (pirelli, continental, hankook, Bridgestone, Hoosier, and toyos) and nothing has come close to Michelin’s.
My dad was like "just get cheap tires it doesn't matter", this was about 3 months after he finished rehabbing from an accident in which his car lost grip and sent him flying into a ditch lol. My current setup for winter and summer tires costs about 1.5k for the 8 of them. Not risking my health to save a few bucks
He said if ur old like him & don’t drive a lot .
Man, Scotty’s wife is starving him. Soon we’re gonna see him holding a “Will Work for Food” sign! 🤣🤣🤣
True. The guy is loosing weight. I think his arms are burning up all the fat
Atleast he isnt fat
He is normal weight..your just used to seeing waaaaay too many obese Americans
@@pootthatbak2578 there’s 350 million of us. Tons of us fat, tons of us with perfect bodies, tons of us are average weight and so on…. Just like anywhere else
@@Outlaw_j84 well..i can give a personal example. Im 74 inches tall..i weigh 225 lbs..and im struggling to hold that weight. I do have fat, im not lean. The medical association chart hanging in my doctors office claims a person at my height should be 180 pounds. Im 40 pounds over. They classify me as obese.
I agree..i look at our family album pictures of the 1930s 40s 50s..none of my family was heavy then. My grandfathers and uncles you could see their ribs if they had their shirts off.
Scotty is a healthy weight..
Tires are one of those things in life where you get EXACTLY what you pay for. For anyone you care about, only put Michelin, Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Yokohama, Continental, on there and forget about it. If its just you and you don't care that much, you can put anything on there but the best "cheapo" I've found are Falken. They don't last very long but they are very reliable.
I’d recommend people still get a decent tire. I’ve seen too many medical reports for people who were minding their business when someone’s bad decisions or cheap parts caused them a lot of pain and suffering.
Don’t be a jerk, buy better if you can. You’ll potentially save someone else.
Respect hankook
My Falkens are made in Japan, for what it's worth
Toyos are good
Cooper makes a fine tire
NO Scotty
Most people use there cars and wear out the tires. We all retired or able to stay home like you. We commute to work in all types of weather and need good tires.
His commute is from his living room to his Driveway....🤣🤣🤣🤣
Scotty must be referring to summer tires on a convertible that sits in the garage all year waiting for one perfectly warm sunny day. And then proceeds to run air conditioning with the top up 😂
Back in the 1970’s we would go behind a Sears automotive garage and pick out some used tires made in the USA to recycle on our cars, of course after hours 🤩
I did that about 4 years ago but at the local car dealership.
I always wondered how often this happens. A lot of places near me have tons of tires outside with little to no security. It really wouldn’t be hard to snatch a few without getting caught tbh.
@@jalene150 They encourage it it my town! They pay to get rid of them!
@@jalene150 we would also snag car batteries when left out for gas money 💰, scrap prices where ⬆️ and our tanks where always thirsty.
If you dont mind patched or plugged all you gotta do is ask at most tire shops. They have to pay to dump them.
I'd avoid Chinese tires though, especially when you can get a budget Japanese tire like Sumitomo.
Japanese tires that offered at low prices are also Chinese manufactured, they letting them use their names for royalty )) there are even goodyear tires that are not manufactured by good year. The only company who does not let using their name is Michelin. And tell you what , chinese makers came really far with quality, now their tires are very good, and i dont mean reporoductions, but those with strange chinese names, like nexen and so on, . al lthse tires come straight, no deffet, and ride ok and dont wear quick. we by lots of LT tires for our vans and they last us very good for 3-4 years till we change them for new again. also bough same ciense tires no name for my acura, year later no issue. But bought good year tires for my BMW 3 years ago, a guess what, one tire got treading sifted ,torn cords inside and it has bulge on the treading so it shakes, . and need to get new set. There u go, no issue with chiense tires in nearly 15 years buying them and straight issue with the so well known good year tires. Also my buddy works construction, he buys cheap batteries from eaby for is power tools to replays dewalt makita etc, and those cheap batteries that sell for $20 last much longer than OEM product for $80 ..
Buy Murican. Cooper, General, Kelly, etc. It sure as hell ain't rocket science.
@@tedunguent156 General are generally good hehe, Cooper and Kelly are garbage.
@@tedunguent156 Kelly used to be good but not cheap, and now I seen them somewhere but you have to get a mortgage to buy a set of kelly tires, .. they popular on jeeps and SUVs so they are costly even online.
@@ansv3340 i stopped listening when I heard you talking about how the chinese dictatorship has come far with quality as if that's any reason for me to financially support a dictatorship
Tires and brakes are something nobody should cheap out on.
so true
U rite. I spend at least 3mo rent on my tires every 2k miles
@@goliathonline69 Lmao dude. Stop doing burnouts on your Lowpros.
says a non mechanic
Third cheapest isn't cheaping out. Still quality tires. Average person doesn't need the top of the line tires. Period.
In 2021 I purchased for my Corvette a set of Atlas W rated tires for $500 mounted and balanced. The mileage rating was 40,000. They ran quiet and had outstanding traction on wet surfaces.
i bought my mom 2 walmart tires for 80 bucks each for her nissan suv no problems, i bought 4 new tires at discount tire for 75 bucks each for my nissan sentra, ive had them on for 2 years, drove to florida from texas 2400 miles there and back no problems.
I always wear my tires out way before dry rot. Lucky to get over two years, or around 35,000 miles, out of a set.
Couldn't agree with you more. I like Michelin tires but two sets on my 2006 honda ridgeline were trashed due to rot with more than half the tread left. I've driven the truck 90,000 miles in 15 years and now follow Scotty's advice.
im buying 5 years tires from tire4coin
or go to ur local used tire shop!
I buy most of the family's tires on Tire Rack. I always look at the specs to see where they were manufactured. Choose a set of tires with at least a million miles worth of reviews (4/5 or better) so you can be certain. Then have them drop-shipped to your favorite mechanic!
me too
This is the way to go.
Or just order your tires at Discount Tire/America's Tire because they will beat Tire Racks prices and save you money on labor for installing with them.
@@chinchillaman8778 So how long HAVE you worked for Discount Tire?
@@thomascampbell5633 What makes you think I work there?
I have Michelin ZR tires on my 07 Acura TL Type S The car has 288 hp mated to a 6 speed manual transmission It also has brembo front calipers
Dont buy Chinese crap tires either 😱
For numerous reasons
Tell that to payroll :D
Even your best premium tires are produced in china, you seem to be forgetting that.
Like ling longs or mucho machos. The cheapest tire I’d ever put on a daily car would probably be the uniroyal tiger paw
@@jango156 uniroyal tiger paws are great, they're actually made by Michelin. Have some on one of our cars 👍
My 2000 toyota celica gt-s only comes in ZR tires because my tire size is rare (205 50 16) even though my car doesn't go 186 😂
@Shawn 🏴☠️ Stafford i know im a year late but wheels are only measured in width and diameter. the middle number in tire size is the profile, so if you find a match where instead of 245/60 its 235/55 or 225/60, that might work. it depends on the car, and you have to worry about over all diameter, but you can be flexible with sizes if stock is hard to find.
It's not just the R or ZR that's important. The load rating is extremely important. 92H vs 98V and such. Tire charts are super helpful when deciding what tires to buy.
Scotty, my car has only 25000 miles and is 8 years old . I have read that tires should be replaced after 7 years regardless of treadwear. The tread on my tires is very good and i see no evidence of dryrot at all. Do i need to replace them?
7 or 8 years is the recommendation. Yes, technically you should replace them.
Actually, W and Y rated tires are for cars that go more than 170 MPH. W and Y rated tires are above ZR rated tires.
Scotty, I live in Alberta and just bought some Michelin cross weather tires. Expensive, yes. But they stop on a dime on sheer ice. Any thoughts or wisdom on my purchase? I’m happy with them, but any problems I don’t know about?
I used to own a set of michelin hydro edge tires , tread pattern stripes type like x mass tree. Directional . o boy they were best tires , i had them on my ford windstar minivan, there was no snow or water paddles that my minivan would skid or hydroplane on. also michelin offered 80K miles warranty on them. i put 50K on and they still looked new. ... sold the van. that was some 20 years ago. and they cost me $150 a piece back then. . .. Then I has some michelin tires on my BMW and on my acura, best tires ever, even rotten from the age they held perfectly at 100 miles per hour just made little noise ))) but no bumps no bulges no crocked treads etc. Michelins are the best tires all I can say.
@@ansv3340 yeah, I agree with everything you said. My cross weather Michelin’s have a “ v “ tread pattern on them. It reminds me of Formula One racing “ wets “ from a few years back. Those Michelin’s would stick to wet pavement like glue. I’d never heard of all weather tires before. All season, yes, but these have a very soft feel and the colder it gets the stickier they become. Money well spent.
@@RWM-j4e yeah V grooved tread tires, that is the word (name) i tried to recall unsuccessfully in my head ))
@@RWM-j4e yeah its new technology new rubber style from Michelin, they spend lot of money to develop new rubber and new shapes , they even have their own racing track and lot of testing rooms. but check ow good these tires you got are in the summer, they may need ot be taken off for summer as on the hot days on the summer roads you may wear them out quickly same a winter tires are not meant to be used in the summer.
Yup I don't drive much and have a limited budget so I buy middle of the road tires. I bought new tires last summer and spent a little over 400 for four tires with mounting and balancing included.
$100 per tire isn't "middle of the road".. It's bottom of the heap.
@@tvtothepoint ignorance doesn't become anyone. I've bought tires for years and for my vehicle $100 is middle of the road as I wisely shop around for the best deal I can find. I don't just go throwing around money assuming more equals better quality. The tires I had since 2014 maintained their integrity and I simply changed them out of an abundance of caution just last year even though they still had good tread on them. I paid a little over $100 a piece for them at les Schwab tire when I had them installed in 2014. Good tires can be had at decent prices. You just have to do your research.
I have Bridgestone Turanza Quiettrack’s on my 12’ VW Jetta tdi, amazing all around tire especially for low noise and exceptional ride quality for a low profile tire
Scotty, this is bad advise. Buy high quality tires only, pay the extra for it. Its your only contact with the road. Motorcyclists know you don't cheap out on tires. It could save you some day. This also accounts for cars
We put $1000 worth of Nokians on the WifeMobile, just to find them starting to crack on the sidewalls after 2 years, got them replaced by warranty. I've got my eye on these things now, cant say the price was worth it except for the warranty.
That is very true! I had a mid lower class tires , rated for 40,000 miles!!
I replaced them when I I had 5/32” tread left !! Took me 12 years to put 36,000 on them !!
It’s was July with winter coming , and snow is always possible so I wanted a little more tread for snow!!
I was happy with tires performance for 36,000 miles , my truck handled fine!!
When we were young we didn’t even consider speed ratings. We just hammered it.
No sh** , had a 68 GTO back in the day. Over a 100 all the time with recaps.
@ronniecox109 l remember those days myself ..in all these years ,I have never had a blow out .
I'd have to disagree.
In Germany people prefer to drive at V-Max when possible. Proper tires are definitely a must.
To be fair he did specify you should do it if you don't drive fast or often
@@mastermoo3506 Well, he said based on how fast YOU drive, the reality is you should buy tires rated for your car. However, my mechanic as well cautioned me against Z tires for Chicago saying H tires had better rubber if I drove during cold weather for my Porsche, so I had H rated tires instead of Z (he said I'd never go above 130mph and he was right)
@@johnnelson5083 The police thank you for your admission.
In German people can't driver safely let alone straight ! Specially when it's raining and snow lol so why are you complaining what he says we use all types of tires over here in US and we have different roads then Germany and Austria so don't say we use this and that the price of tire over in US is keep going up and down depending on shipping cost and import tax
@@charlesfranks1902 Looks like we have someone who plays a lawyer on the internet, but not a good lawyer. Oh well.
I always buy good wet weather tires (like continental) because that's when you need traction the most - if you loose traction in the dry you're doing something stupid and pushing to hard.
I replaced my old OEM Continentals on my Civic with shitty Barums. Worst mistake ever. Should have waited to get enough money to buy more Continentals because my car slides with any little f****** puddle.
tires are best on tire4coin
restored a 02 focus svt. bought mid level tires.. wish i had just sprung & got the continental's
I would not buy used tires
Uh, I think you can get those for free.
amen to that, not worth it. unless they are like nearly new take off and some name like Michelin.offered at 3rd of the price or half price.
i used to do tires for a living and i dont remember anyone who was happy about buying used tires. there was a lady that got used tires because they were cheaper but they wore out 2 weeks later because she didnt realize they were already scrap when she bought them
Don't buy Chinese tires. They pop so easily by hitting small potholes and nails puncture them easily. I made the mistake and never again.
I buy chinease xl tires and have never had that happen. It’s more so having low profile tires. If you get xl that will save u and save $ still. I pay 200 a piece locally for tires and get them online 55 a piece for off brand chinease and they’re xl. Formerly not buying the xl but still chinease I busted 9 in one year. I thought the same but after going the xl route I can’t even remember the last time it happened it’s been so long
@@jamescooper2746 after having 3 out of 4 of my tires being popped, never again. 1 was by a pothole and 2 were by nails. When the 3rd popped from a nail, I just decided to replace the 3rd and 4th to avoid the 4th getting fucked. I switched to kumho Korean tires and I've had way better luck. Lots of potholes here in Florida and they take them like a champ. Big difference going from those $65 Chinese tires to $95 Korean tires. My car when I bought it had $125 BF Goodrich performance tires but since I use this as a daily, tread went down over time so I replaced them. Price definitely does correlate with quality.
that is very true they are made of soft compound
fun fact over 90% of trailer tires are chinese made. especially good year. because of safety laws its easier to make passenger tires in the US, but they dont care as much about trailers
My Continetal premium contact 2 which is pushing 5 years old had a nail in it for about 6 months before I could be bothered to remove it the tyre would only lose 1psi a month that tyre was tight and still on my car having been patched.
Scotty, what is your opinion about those ~$40 tires from Walmart?
Yeah if you drive a lot in the rain don’t buy cheap tires…. Get some tires that actually reduce the likelihood of hydroplaning and that have good grip, tires are one of the most important things on a car make sure u get quality ones
Agreed, there is actual difference in performance between cheap tires and high end tires. I sure don't want the things that make contact with the road to be of cheap quality. Safe driving my guy
I just put a set of Uniroyal Tiger Paws on my mini van that I put about 3000 miles a year on. They ride and handle like a dream.
Uniroyal Tiger Paws are caca 💩!
they grip too much....
Old school technology.
I agree. It all depends on the way you have to use the car. I have always mounted cheap tires on my slow 4x4. I even put some used( 60% left) bridgestones i found on the side of the road. But that's because it is a SLOW car, made to go through mud and such, not to run on the highway. On the other hand, on my fast sedan i put a complete set of kumho that costed like a kidney, but sturdy and quality.
I buy Douglas performance at walmart. Ive been through 3 sets. They're made in the U.S.A. and handle very well. They also last a little longer than 45,000 miles.
But ride quality is important too. Bought a used Civic with terrible tires - I could literally feel the smallest of road imperfection and it's noisy.
I have a brother at a tire store and he has seen and heard from customers that Yokohama's are better than most but Michelin isn't great at anything but decent on everything they don't excel on any terrain but they'll suffice.
They're excellent
Yokohamas are superb value. Especially their Advan lineup, and the Geolander for SUVs.
IF the road is decently maintained and not covered in ice or snow then most Michelin passenger car tires will do decently on wet or dry pavement. Now, the newest Michelin Climate Control passenger car tires do seem to perform excellently on snow covered roads.
I have a 2011 Acura MDX and I’ve only had them for a year 50k miles and I’m already going to replace them soon since they’re close to the wear bars already
50,000 miles is what matters, not that you had them for a year. I have never had tires last 50k.
best tires I ever owned over the last decade and just put a new set on in august is the Continental True Contacts $550 bucks rides the same as the Michelin’s Cross Climate for $200 less
had continentals on lexus , came with them . 2 tires got bumps on the side, , same issue my buddy had. then had continental tires on one of other cars , they wore out very quick and treading shifted , so they were uneven , had to get rid of them. chinese cheap tires are way better than continentals. germans gave up on quality, all they do is garbage lately, including cars, electronics and tires and everything else.
@@ansv3340 also european cars made for the US market are LITERALLY MADE IN THE US. If you know about car manufacturing, european vehicles that are actually made in Europe are extremely well made. Theres a nice ole sticker right in your door jam thatll tell you where your was actually made! In fact - a lot of toyotas for the US market are made in mexico
@@ansv3340 lmao ur smoking crack my guy I been using the same set of Continental pure contacts all seasons for almost 11 years now not a single issue with them get an alignment and balance done out tire shine on them and drive ur car normally and u won’t have any issues the wearing uneven is a result of a bad alignment and definitely not go buy any set of Chinese tires if they can last as long as Continental pure contacts I’ll u a new pair only decent key word decent Japanese tire is Yokohama but they can’t hold a candle to Continental seems like u guys didn’t put tire shine on ur tires often and keep it out of the sun while parked I changed mines in august after 4 years still had 30% of its tread life left with no cracks or uneven wears
@@jasonb9085 Simply looking at the VIN tells you the country of origin. And the country of origin only matters to the assembly quality, and does not cite the problem of poor designs of German vehicles. On my Regensburg assembled E90, all gaskets are made by rubber which fails prematurely, leading to oil leak, whereas Honda vehicle made in US / Canada uses polytetrafluoroethylene with metal insertions very often. The engine oil / coolant is designed to operated at 105 degrees (85 for most Asian vehicle), which accelerated the wear on gaskets and water pipes even more, and the only purpose for such high engine temperature is to achieve greater efficiency, but will cost you way more in repairs than the fuel saved. Water hoses are connected using plastic quick connecting joint, the Germans can cut corners on assembly line but these joints lack of the durability of traditional metal clips, which are still widely used in Asian / US vehicles.
However, I would say the continental tires are just fine… The worst German company is Bosch, avoid their parts at all cost because they fail prematurely too often
The crossclimate is designed to operate in both Cold and normal weather, and if you don’t drive below zero then for sure it’s a bad choice. For Canadians a set of all weather tire saves condo owners saves the owner at least $200 (tire swap + storage fee) a year and the overhead cost of another set of rims, this is where all weather tire shines.
But you really should ditch those tires more than 10 years old even they looks good. If you don’t drive that much, my suggestion is to upgrade to a higher performance category, the cost per tire is usually the same but you get shorter stopping distance, at the cost of lower tread life.
The tread pattern makes the biggest difference. Cheaper tires with a good tread pattern have served me well because I don't drive a lot. But the tire patterns are great in inclement weather . Scottie is a legend. His advice has gotten me out of a lot of bad situations. Glad to see he is still taking care of himself. 👍 👍
What thread pattern do you consider best?
Scotty, I'm going to call you out on this one. I have worked in the tire industry for over 35 years.
First off, there is no speed rating as R. R means radial.
Any tire dealer that sells a downgraded speed rated tire is totally liable for not installing the right speed rated tire.
The car engineers who made the car set certain parameters of what the tire the should be. It's not how fast you go,
it the handling of the vehicle to be stable.
when I lived in Phoenix, one of my customers but on a downgraded speed rating on a customers car, because she wanted to save money. She was elderly and
got killed in a collision with a palm tree because her car didn't handle correctly.
The family business that was around for 80 years has disappeared because of legal issues and wrongful death claims
because of a speed rated tire. Kinda Fucked Up...
I was scratching my head when he said R speed rated...
@ Djs694 - Yep! There IS an "R" speed rating! The "R" you're referring to is just before the rim diameter size. Next, there's the tire load index (ie, 87 = 1,201 pounds) then the speed rating.
@bigg4454 I agree...theres definitely an "R" speed rating and its the slowest rating a tire has to offer
Is it true that tires should be replaced when 10 years old regardless?
I go with Miradas, they are a Yoko off brand.
Also go with Doral-Sport
About $85 each...highway good, keeps the commute price down.
It's wired that Firestone got a bad reputation for tread separations but the Chinese made Hankook tires haven't gotten much attention for being tread separators too. They will probably work fine for a while but don't keep any for too long especially with some of the discount brand imported tires.
Have these Goodyear Eagle tires, made in Chile. The numbers say they're made from 2012, and I'm going to change them soon, but they never dry rotted, and took a decent amount of burnouts 😆
All I have bought is Goodyear Eagles for my 2003 Mach 1 .. they are great tires ..
I’m pretty cheap in tires. I bought my Volkswagen Golf new and still have the original tires after 4 years 40,000 miles. I got 3 patches but heck, I drove 2,000 miles to Montana recently and they didn’t lose a pound of pressure. They’re great for burnouts lol.
For all my passenger cars I stick with Falken, Hankook, or Kumho. I've never had a problem with any of those brands and the prices are great.
On my van however I use Michelin because it handles the extra weight and abuse better. The only name brand tire I've ever had issues with is Goodyear.
Before I drove my car for a living, this was absolutely my method! Cheap tires do great when you don’t drive much! Now I drive for work, and I put about 80,000 miles a year on my Volkswagen Jetta, so I put a very expensive high mileage tire on because it’s worth it.
How many miles are on your vdub?
@@ianmoore322 the first was a lemon, and VW took it back at 35,000. The second has 189,000 and is 4 years old. The third is a year old with 88,000. I also have a classic diesel 82 that I use for food instead of passengers when I don’t want to deal with people, and I’ve added 150,000 to it since I bought it 5 years ago. Sadly it’s been down with a blown engine for a year… 😞 but between 4.5 years and 4 cars I’ve done ~450k miles. ( those numbers include personal use).
I've been driving 22 years. My first new set of tires were Goodyear. They dry cracked so bad within 2 years of light driving. Since then I've only used Chinese tires. Nexan, double star, joyroad etc. These Chinese tires are great for the commuter car, the daily car, just maybe not the race car. Even the winter tires are great.
i got my tires from tire4coin
My mom's general altimax rt43 already need to be replaced after 2 years. She didn't rotate them enough and now the front tires tread is low.
I have purchased 14 pick-up tires in the last five years for two different trucks. Ten were Cooper tires and four General tires, all load range E tires. I can't imagine what tires or size that your grandson bought for his Tundra that he spent $800 for two tires. I did get the set of General Grabber AT/x tires mounted and installed for free as a favor and they only cost $870 for all four. How did your grandson manage to spend $800 on two pick-up tires? I just paid $480 for a pair of Cooper Discover AT3/aw LT265/70R/17 load range E from the nearest tire shop with all of the extra fees this year. Was Scotty exaggerating the price or did he waste his money paying $800?
Size really determines the cost. 17" rims would really keep the price lower. Some of these new trucks are 275/50R22 and the price gets rediculous... maybe that's the case? Just so you know, I ran cooper discoverers on my truck and absolutely hated them. Terrible on wet, and killed fuel economy too. (They weren't bad in the snow though) My favorite tires on my truck have been bridgestone duellers. $1200 Canadian pesos for 275/60R20 mounted and installed.
I like to look at treadwear rating. I got these replacement Toyos for my CX5 they only lasted 20k miles. Treadwear rating of 300. This time I got Pirellis with a rating of 800. We'll see how long they last.
I work at town fair tire. Ive sold countless sets of tires of all brands. So ive seen them come back too. First, theres no such thing as a cheap michelin tire and to he honest they arent worth it. Toyo tires and falken tires make some of the best tires in the world and are a step down in price from michelin. If you’re looking for a good cheap tire, sumitomo/TBC company based brands are good for the buck, like El dorado and doral. Both are reliable. Run away from - accelera, linglong crosswind, prinx, delinte, and honestly, goodyear uses a sunflower oil now that dry rots quickly. So i wouldnt get a cheap goodyear or goodyear based brand thats cheap for a long lasting tire
I'd recommend Yokohamas. Great value.
Kumho Crugens are also rated very close to Michelin. Kumho will save you some money without skipping on Quality. Have Kumho on my Sienna XLE & Ford Sports Trac. Buy 2, get 2 w/rebate from DT.
My tires only have to be rated to go 88mph 🔥🚗
Lol
Good.
I have a mercury marquis and I'm just trying to find tires with really good grip so I can stop sliding.. I'm legit drifting when doing 15mph turns when it's sprinkling. It's terrifying. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm not scared to spend money for good grip.
Cooper cobras have better grip than most. And my friend would regularly go max speed with them
I take my vehicles up over a hundred miles an hour almost everyday should I get ZR rated tires?
your a wild man,bless you
@@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords just to let you know that I'm not bullshiting you one of my vehicle's is an o-6 GTO 6
V and higher rated tires, just sucks that the tire compound is softer and wont last as long (usually)
@@nf100 I'm not looking for it the last long just I don't want it to blow up when I'm driving it at 171 miles an hour
well, bias ply tires should be good, we have the gene pool to consider.
Are kelly tires any good...
You got more keys than a high school janitor.
Because he is a janitor, judging by most of his advice, he doesn't actually know much about cars
I've been going with BF Goodrich. A little noisey but they seem to last
To stop your tyres dry rotting use factor 50 sunscreen oil every time you wash your car ! Looks good and moisturizer the rubber my uncle has original tyres on his Etype and that's what he's been using ( the car is no longer driver ! Only at show grounds and on and off trailers)
2 weeks ago this would have been titled "you are stupid if you buy these tires" 😆
Hahaha
Oh, is he in recovery?
Just ordered Michelin crossclimate2 for my Subaru, anyone else have these tires? Happy with them or not?
Do not buy Ch..nese tires. I did and they are awful
I've got cheapies on my car. Didnt realize how bad they were until I left the desert. No traction in the rain whatsoever
@@ianmoore322 brakes and tires are the only thing that stop you. NEVER go cheap on tires. better to go cheap on an oil change, just make sure it's synthetic.
I had my z71 tuned. Got up to 110 mph and blew my right drive out. Can't wait till I put the turbo on then we can really rock!
Your absolutely innocuously hilarious explanations are my fav on YT. Great work Scotty!
Michelin CrossClimate 2's are the best!
Anything Michelin or Yokohama makes is a decent tire.
Goodyear is also still a solid brand, but Toyo, Kumho, and Continental are also very good. Avoid Ohtsu at all costs.
I've put only 30K on my 03 Expedition that I bought in 2006. On my third set of new tires not counting the ones it came with. Not cheap tires either, Goodrich and Goodyear. Yes, dry rot is the problem. Averaging only 2k miles per year will do that.
Sounds about right . Tires are made to rotate.
Sidewall strength usually correlates well with upper speed-rated tires, so if you value good steering response at normal speeds, that's a good thing. I really never recommend going BELOW the speed rating the car came with. It's not much to do about top speed, more to do with the handling envelope the car was designed for. IMO.
Thinking of getting Momo Forcerun M8 HT tires. Are they good?
The speed rating is tested in straight line laboratory conditions. It has little relevance to real world conditions in which most people would never drive consistantly at those speeds. The more important factor to consider however is that higher speed rated tyres are made using softer compounds meaning that they will have improved handling, grip and stopping power.
Bad advice, especially in the southern USA states during summer heat. If Your passenger car came with T speed rated tires then get at least T speed rated tires as replacement tires. , BUT if available then get H-speed rated tires for the additional heat absorption capabilities . Running 80MPH on the lower T speed rated tires isn't the wisest choice. You're more prone to tread separation and degraded steering qualities . S speed rated passenger car tires are mostly dedicated winter/snow tires that will degrade significantly when operated at interstate highway speeds in typical USA southern states summer heat. Pay attention to the UTQG RATING for the passenger car tire. Ideally you are seeking something like 400+ AA A. 400 or more treadwear rating, AA traction rating, and an A temperature rating.
For lots of H speed rated tires you are more likely to find: 400+ A A: A greater than 400 treadwear rating, A traction rating of A, and a temperature rating of A .
Lots of high quality H rated tires will have an A traction rating with a B temperature rating.
Michelin Defender T&H tires for example are relatively high quality tires that oddly often come with an A traction rating and a B temperature rating.
Scotty: you’ll never use all the tread up!
Me: Im darn sure gonna try! 😂😂
My last set were on my truck for 40,000 miles. They still had tread but they were 8 years old.
So true. My Dad had a Dodge Ram with hardly 40,000kms and the side wall blew out. Legit didn't last at all and those are the ones they got with it when it was new.
Now retired, I'm thinking there's no reason to buy 80,000 mile tires.
I already need to keep an eye on my 2016 Jeep tires (yeah, I know. I bought it before getting schooled by Scotty)
with 20,700 miles, for cracks and dry rot.
My 2019 Prius (delivered January 2020) has 2600 miles in it.
I live in Iowa what tire brand would you suggest for a truck
Indy 500 firehawk tires had my 2ss convertible doing 0-60 3.9-4.1 consistently on the street. Tires definitely do matter. !
Where I live the cheapest tires that fit my truck are less than $100. I've had them on my truck for a year and a half and there still going strong
Everyone saying "don't cheap out on tires," I have only ever bought the cheapest possible tires for 25 years now, including 10 years buying cheap Chinese tires in Asia for motorcycles. As long as I keep an eye on the tread I have never had any problems. I couldn't imagine spending $400 on a tire, that is wild 😂
I doubt the tires on that Lexus are "R" rated. most tires sold in the US have a minimum speed rating of S, or 112. T, H and V are common as well with 118, 130 and 150mph if I remember correctly. R is probably printed on his tire as 215/60 R17, just to mean radial.
I work at a Discount Tire and my best advice for anyone balling in a budget, literally buy anything other than the cheapest tire and you'll be at least halfway okay. If money's not a problem go Michelin, best bang for your buck is Yokohama, worst tire is definitely Sentry and anything cheaper or a similar price. Worst bang for your buck is definitely Pirelli. Pirellis are way overpriced and always go out in the weirdest and premature ways.
For anyone who wants a really good yet 'average' priced tire, go get Michelin 'Defender' tires, I've tried other more expensive ones and the Defenders are just as good and just as long-lasting. Avoid the Chinese crap at Walmart (but 'do' get the Defenders at Walmart if you can find them there.) For people who live in areas that get snow in the winter, but the Nokian WRG4 / WR G4 'All-weather' tires = They are snow tires that you can keep on in the summer.
Not be mean friend, but you have big pockets if you just called the defender an average priced tire. Even in 205 55 16, the most common tire size - is still clear over 120 a piece even online. I sell tires for a living of all brands. In new england as well. Chinese based brands suck, but michelin sells there tires for so much, i know exactly what my company pays for every model and size of michelin as a distributer and its literally crazy bro. My company makes no money selling michelin quite literally
@@jasonb9085 Given category is the same, Michelin tire usually last longer and have better performance when worn to 1.6mm, thus you don’t need to replace the tire at 3mm to keep it safe on wet road, the cost per distance will be the same.
I live in a snowy area and I would take a dedicated winter tire over an all season tire every time. The winter tire is going to be made of a different rubber that performs better in the cold, there's just no comparison - no way an all season tire can be as good as a winter/snow tire.
I am not sure about now but I was never impressed with Nokian, we never sold them but had a few customers that bought them at a local tire shop thinking they were buying the best and ended up all cracked in just a few years at most. They may be better now.
I agree the Michelin’s ARE good…BUT low price…not so much. Just priced some Michelin Defender 235-70-16’s online (from a site that guarantees the lowest prices) $201 each. Compared to some new Coopers, rated equal to the Michelin’s in all categories (wet, dry, snow, ice traction, ride quality and noise)…$134 each. Bonus is they are American made. Coopers it is…
I somewhat disagree. I know a friend who lost her nice FWD Lincoln Continental sedan because she fitted it with not so great tires. She was trying to brake and swerve around a vehicle that had darted out of a parking lot into her lane. The ABS did its thing, but the tires were not up to the needs for a combined swerve and brake situation like that. Her car lost most of its front end in the collision.
I love guys like this as a dealership tech. Please follow his videos then bring you warranty voided vehicle to me! I encourage all DIY work, mainly because it’s always wrong
The best prices for Tires is Burt Brothers, I got 4; 17 inch tires rated: 520 Treadwear, Traction A, Temperature A and a speed rating V for under $500, not kidding!
I change my tires out on my 2014 Camry SE, 2019 Camry XSE, and Tundra every year to year and 6 months
My 96 Z28 needs ZR-rated tires 😅 apparently they're rated for up to 150 MPH (which is what the speedo tops out at, but the car is probs governed to less.)
Hankook Ventus V2 are a blessing
There is an amazing amount of people that drive on nearly worn out tires, or even weather-cracked tires. Even in the snow-belt they try to get one more winter out of a set if at all possible to save money. In my opinion having a fairly new set of tires with good tread depth is more important than the brand, whether you buy a new set of premium big brand tires or budget priced Chinese, you are safer than old worn out ones. I have used or installed most brands, defects are not necessarily in the cheaper brands, in fact I haven’t really seen problems with the cheaper ones at all. Of course the supporting made in North America is another issue.
My snow tires have a speed rating of H (130 MPH) I never drive over 110 MPH in them because my HRV crossover can't get above 115 MPH. One time I went 117 MPH going down hill in all season tires.
You normally got some good info ...but I believe you missed the mark on this one ....
R stands for radial ... If your car calls for H , V or Z rated tires it's referring to the strength of the sidewalls .... Most shops will not sell the wrong tire.... I worked in a tire shop / garage for 6 years ...buy the properly rated tires
Agreed. I am not one to spend a grand on a set of tires. Cheap for me
They also have date codes on them. Used tires sometimes can be budget friendly. Also tire size has a bearing on their price as well. The bigger the tire the more rubber and materials the more cost. Pro tip for those of us that winter in the north. Buy an extra set of rims from a junkyard and mount snow tires on them then just swap them out when the seasons change...
I bought aluminum OEM rims off of Craigslist with Falken all-seasons (with lots of tread left) for my 2011 Honda Fit Sport for $200, which I'll put on in the Spring. I also bought used Bridgestone Blizzaks (used by the previous owner only 6 weeks last winter due to the lockdowns) for $100. All I need to do is go to the tire shop and swap out my current balding all-seasons and put the winter tires on. Now, I have two sets of tires with factory rims for less than $400.
As someone who worked the majority of my life in the tire industry I can tell you with certainty that when you change the speed rating it changes not only the tire life but handling and performance of your vehicle, in some instances it won’t change your opinion but it can and that is something to think about.