Tool - The Grudge (Reaction!) | A sermon within heavy prog metal
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People guilty of adultery were once given a letter "A" to wear. The letterman gave out those letters. This was a genuine law that existed two centuries before being referenced in the novel "The Scarlet Letter" that everyone will falsely claim to be the origin of the concept (The choice of scarlet was clearly a nod to the novel though, the law itself didn't specify scarlet: "Every Person and Persons so Offending, shall for ever after wear a Capital A of two Inches long and proportionable bigness, cut out in Cloath of a contrary Colour to their Cloaths, and Sewed upon their upper Garments, on the out-side of their Arm, or on their Back, in open view".
Being "Unable to forgive your scarlet letterman" is to hold a grudge against those who have exposed your weaknesses/failings, rather than to accept and learn, in order to maintain the ego.
Is that true about the person handing out the letter? I've always interpreted the scarlet letterman to be the "varsity adulterer" of whom the song/grudge originated from. One of my favorite Maynard lyrics easily.
@@jaymecarlson8685 The scarlet letter I think originates from the Hawthorne book. Technically Hester ought to have been stoned to death, or otherwise executed, but because she was pregnant the community was merciful and forced her to wear the letter instead.
@@psukebariah3435 It does for sure, but I was always assuming the letterMAN aspect of the lyric was a combination of that and a varsity letterman in the high school athletic sense which together would mean something akin to a accomplished cheater, or a serial cheater. The band has done this dual name combo thing before with Aenima and Pushit being the first to pop to mind. I had not known of this "person who gave out the letter" meaning before now which throws my idea into question.
@@jaymecarlson8685 Maynard (and Tool) do indeed do combo meanings in their song titles. I was speaking more specifically to the idea that a scarlet letter was "often" given out for adultery. What was "often" given out for adultery was death. The "scarlet letter" was an anomaly.
And I believe "give away the stone" is self-referential towards the cornerstone line, but also another play on words about atlas holding the stone.
Most of the lyrics in this and The Pot are satirical twists of different sayings.
“Clutch it like a cornerstone” = holding that grudge. Saturn’s orbital period is 29 years, don’t let it take you that long to let that grudge go. “Saturn comes back around, lifts you up like a child or drags you down like a stone” “Give away the stone, let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold”
Saturn is also the god of periodic renewal that was associated with plenty and peace. Love Tool's lyrics.
I just turned 29 years old…. And hearing this song and the stuff I’ve been thinking about in my head about my career and how I’ve been contemplating and procrastinating and putting off the thing so want to do in my life or the things I started years ago and never finished … it couldn’t be a more perfect timing to listen to this
Probably one of my favorite Tool journeys I've gotten to witness. Tied up there with Geebz.
Keep em coming brother!
You talking about Key of Geebz?
@@johnswanger8474 of course!
Absolutely agreed 👍
Geebz for musical analysis and this dude for lyrical analysis has been awesome
@@shiznitshnitzel4 spot on!
I'm enjoying this journey with you. It's nice to see someone who gets it so well.
His scream at the end is 29 seconds, the time of Saturn's orbital period and was noted he almost passed out doing it. :)
Source for the pass out thing?
@@flataffect don't know about the "pass out" thing,but I'd read that when they did the grudge live,Maynard would often puke right after the scream.
"That hit me like a truck" right before Maynard's scream. I was like yeeeeah, embrace the Saturn's truck.
catharsis can be intense, but its the cleanest path.
Saturn takes about 30 years to fully rotate around the sun. In simbolysm, 30 years means "maturing". When he says "saturn comes back around to show you everything", it's like "it's been 30 years and you're still holding that grudge, maturity comes to shed new light on old grudges"
"saturn ascends, choose 1 or 10" (choose change or be the same you've ever been)
that's how I get it, at least.
That’s…fucking perfect actually
Transmutation of lead into gold being the primary goal of alchemy. "Transmute these leaden grudges into gold"
The greatest thing about Tool is how the music makes you feel. You don't even have to understand the lyrics to let your soul feel the message they want to convey. Looking forward to Descending!
A very brilliant comment.
Descending is the top of 5 highlights on Fear Innoculum
I agree, I like to think of the instruments being used like a voice, and it some songs they literally almost sound like singing. It's one of my favorite bits about this band
@@afroize very true. Their genius instrumentation for example can be found in 7empest. If you take just the instruments it sounds just like a coming storm, the actual tempest, and then the aftermath.
Thank you. I never listened to the words until after I hear the music.
I’m so excited for you to see TOOL live!
One of the most epic Maynard screams at the end, clocking in at just under 30 seconds!
Tool's lyrics are genius in that although they are usually written about a specific thing from a specific point of view they are almost always applicable to anyone's situation and everyone can find a different, just as valid meaning in them.
the one thing i enjoy about watching you react to these tool songs is that it helps me remember what its like to be in awe of the teachings this band laying in front of me. thank you
I’m sure it’s been mentioned ad nauseum but I just want to get my vote in for Invincible off the new album which Descending is off of also. Enjoy the trip. Wish I could hear Tool again for the first time.
Every time I get into the gym, this is the first song on my playlist. The energy I get from it is amazing. One of my favourite Tool songs.
Yeah, Descending and 7empest and Invincible
@@jakefromstatefarm1405 7empest. 7empest.
The cornerstone to me was always the grudge you are holding onto so tightly, that you build the building of hate/negativity around if you continue to clutch it. I think he then goes on to tell you to let it go before it drags you down into the abyss. But you can only let it go if you Choose to. You have to choose to let go of your grudges for them to lose their weight and let you resurface before you drown in a sea of hate and discontent. This Journey we listen to Maynard go through on these albums is amazing. So much hate for religion and others, to finally transforming into acceptance and retrospection is phenomenal.
First things first - YES, that was an un-edited 25 second scream in the studio! 😲
Just going to list what the "singles" were for each album release, as they might be the songs Tool fans were initially introduced to at the time over the years:
"Undertow" (1993)
1. Sober
2. Prison Sex
3. Undertow
"Aenima" (1996)
1. Stinkfist
2. H.
3. Aenema
4. Forty Six & 2
"Lateralus" (2001)
1. Schism
2. Parabola
3. Lateralus
"10,000 Days" (2006)
1. Vicarious
2. The Pot
3. Jambi
"Fear Inoculum" (2019)
1. Fear Inoculum
2. Pneuma
Keep diving into Tool brother. It truly is a philosophical/spiritual journey. I'm on the ride with you.
You'll never be the same after seeing them live, promise 😊 Can't wait for this upcoming tour
I’ve been a huge tool fan for over 20 years and I’ve listened to this album a million times but man sometimes they just hit different when you are going through phases of life. I completely cut contact with someone 2 years ago after a lifetime of accepting their abuse…listening to this song in that context changed it for me. “Wear the grudge like a crown” ooof. I was done holding onto the fight and the trauma like some sort of trophy and this song really did help me to let it go and walk away. It doesn’t weigh me down any longer and I have never felt so free 🖤
I'm so happy you found tool, you are in for a great experience going to that show. My nephew will be there too!
Hey just clarification, I’m not sure how you’re reading the lyrics. But the lyric is actually “transmutate these leaden (as in lead, the metal) grudges into gold”
Correct
You need some reflection paired with Disposition and Triad Tool’s Holy Trinity
Reflection is magical!
Don't forget the Lima beans
This song saved my life ! I was so angry and bottled up! I listened to this over and over and over . It still brings tears to my eyes, listening to you watching this!
The TOOL ARMY appreciates your reactions. Thanks brother.
I'm not a trained astrologer by any stretch, but I find the Saturn transit fascinating from a Jungian individiutian perspective, so I've delved into it a bit, and I think that's also why Maynard is using it as well.
Astrologically, Saturn returns (comes back around) to it's position in your natal chart every 26-ish years. Being such a slow moving planet (I think it's the last "personal planet", the rest are "generational"), it's effects can be felt for an extended period both before and after. And it can be *hardcore*. Saturn is the planet of rules, boundaries and endings...and can and will f up your life. If you are holding on to the wrong things - how you think your life "should" be, even if it's really not. Marriages/long term relationships can end, job loss, housing lost...and llegar kinds of hellish scenarios, including severe illness. All to get you to let go. And continued holding on can wreck you. Letting go and heading in a more...authentic? direction, even if it wasn't where you thought you were headed, or what you thought you wanted, can bring some excellent advantages.
That's the mythology, anyway. And having gone through a pagan phase and a spiritual astrology phase, I've read some powerful personal accounts. I recommend looking into it.
So that's my...$.10. Enjoying your reactions to Tool.
Saturn is also the Romanization of the Greek god chronos who obviously is closely associated with time. Chronological, chronic illness, anachronistic, etc.
You are absolutely killing these reactions...you get it! We gave all felt it. It gets better and better my friend...enjoy this journey. And just wait. The singer Maynard has 2 other amazing bands that will blow your damn mind as well🤘🤣
I heard this song live, it’s just so amazing!!! Yes get to see TOOL live as soon as possible 🤘🏼
This is the opening song on Lateralus. Kinda sets it all up. You really need to listen to that whole album. Its all deep ass shit with some ridiculously good music
Enjoy your trip, dude!
One of my fav things is seeing new Tool fans on their journey, and this was a pretty damn good one.
Disposition, reflection, triad. With lyrics for reflection. Think you will appreciate the message. Also as a father you might enjoy Invincible.
Since you mentioned masonic brothers, the metaphor for alchemy of turning lead to gold should not be taken literally as solid materials, but figuratively for your mind/body/spirit.
If you make your anger/grudge your cornerstone you will never rise from your base existence, if you are still doing so once Saturn comes back around 29 years later, what a waste.
Enjoying your Tool reviews, especially that you can appreciate the music while comprehending the layers in the lyrics. Enjoy your family holiday.
Ah the ol’ trick baby… where baby #1 makes you feel like you’re a pro, so how hard could 2 be? Our first was a very easy baby, so when we found out we were having a 2nd we thought for sure we just lucked out big time with baby #1. Turns out… the 2nd may even be easier (so far… almost 7 months).
I love the last couple minutes of this song, tell you to turn your grudges into gold, bring the beginning of the song back around giving you time to think about it, then SCREAAAAAAM and hopefully on some level you're screaming too, letting your grudges go, best use of a scream in a song ever?
You not expecting to have feelings listening to metal is one of the reasons i detest pop music so much, this isn't really something i like talking about because i don't listen to it and am therefore not qualified to talk about it intelligently, but pop music reaches billions of people and kids and those artists have such a great opportunity to talk about real things not just recycled garbage, it makes me feel like those artists are so shallow they couldn't even if they wanted to.
These screaming angry metal musicians probably care more about you than anyone else in the music industry.
I feel that pop is fine just the way that candy is fine. Here and there, occasionally...
Just don't try to live off of it, it will rot your teeth and ultimately kill you from lack of nutrition.
@@johnswanger8474 I think Maynard compared it to McNuggets in an interview once.
Saturn was also the God of war so has a lot to do with wrath and anger. Also, Clutching like a cornerstone to me means that your entire foundation of reality is based on this grudge you hold so tight that if you let it go everything will 'all come down'
Ohhh I’m looking forward to this one. The only band that can open with a song that would close most albums.
They’ve opened with this song live on most of the Tool shows I’ve been able to attend
@@andrewj3398 they haven’t on this current tour. They don’t play it at all unfortunately. Maybe this redo round will include it.
I saw them only once live, on mushrooms. That was amazing. It was just after this album was released, early 2000s. They probably played this song as well altough I do not recall which songs they played, I was just spacing out and dancing like a maniac the whole time. Pretty sure I was the happiest person in that entire audiance.
More life lessons from Maynard and the boys. ✌
Ticks and leeches is another really good tool song that’s pretty heavy and deals with confronting anger, but specifically at parasitic relationships between people. It’s off the same album as this one
Allowing yourself to be taken advantage of, like you’ve mentioned before
Epic reactions man! You should definetly watch Third Eye 1998 live version, insane performance, will blow your mind for sure.
Glad you’re going to a show. It will be so much more than you even realize right now. Loving that for you. Check out Pneuma on FI for your spiral ride. Danny has a great video up of the performance.
ruclips.net/video/FssULNGSZIA/видео.html
BTW, this is the only band I have had to research on what the hell is going on... made me fall in love with them. Maynard is my Prometheus.
To me it means that holding onto a grudge, and focusing on the negative will blind you to the potential and the positive.
Been a tool fan forever saw them at MSG in 2001. They will always be my favorite group, even if I don’t listen to them for a while, their songs are timeless and I always go back. Maynard is a genius.
calmly awaits the reaction to "Eulogy" and may as well do "ticks and leeches" too.
and yes, he can scream that long and sound that damn good. saw him do it live a few times.
Maynard's voice is truly hypnotizing! Of course other awesome song!🌹
Most Tool fans know "the scream". Its my favorite part of showing this song to someone. That moment of "Did he just scream for 30 seconds?!". Yes. Yes, he did. And mind you, this is the first song on the album. It only gets more intense from there.
I would agree with most saying to give 'Invincible' a lesson. Its one of my favorites off the new album.
"OK, that hit me like a truck"
Just wait until you see what hits you about 10 seconds from now!
Definitely recommend you familiarize yourself with stinkfist and vicarious. Two songs they always play live. Very good lyrical topics also. As far as a song that are a journey I recommend “Pushit” studio version first than the salival version second… maybe even in the same video (long cardio session) and also “the patient” is a song with a really good message to motivate you when one feels like giving up. There really are no bad songs. I would just recommmend those…… also “eulogy”, “ third eye” (heaviest song they have imo), and “H” all very good. Have a great trip with the family!
January 30th! I'll be there in Tulsa! (And any other locations within 200 miles) Saw them twice before COVID and had tickets for 2 more shows that got canceled 😞
EDIT: Saturn is also the astrological symbol for Karma. The stone is a reference to the philosopher's stone from Alchemy which was sought to transmute metal (usually lead) into gold.
“…transmutate these leaden grudges into gold”
@@richardjones1498 exactly 💯
Huge tool fan and glad I found Karnivool through these reactions. Listen to New Day on your trip
"That hit me like a truck". Little did he know another truck was coming...
Lol. From an S-10 to a long nosed Pete.
The grudge might be my favorite tool song. Most of the music I listen to is more on the heavy side, so this is the shit that speaks to me, more than the softer songs (theyre still great tho)
I'm simply asking you to do a reaction to push it live version on salivial album. Listing to the original and then do a reaction to the live version. It is on another level. Thanks. It's good to see people find out what this band has been doing for the last 3 decades. Tool can for life!!!!
This was one of the next songs that I wanted to recommend! So glad you got to it, this, in my humble opinion, is a big stepping stone of growth. Saturn comes back around = 30 years passing. I am about to turn 30 and the idea of letting go of my past self to be the person I need to be moving forward has been weighing heavily on me. Our baby deserves the best version of ourselves!
Have a great holiday can’t wait to see your reaction to more Tool 😉🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶💜
The long yell, let go, and intensity of the end of the song seems to me to symbolize the long awaited release of all the anger. Maybe not directed at someone but more in an introspective way, like realizing what it is and coming to terms with the fact that it's weighing you down, then finally letting it pass on.
I say tool lyrics is the best compared to the rest of all bands, it’s good it’s deep
But... it’s tool’s music that is incomparable n there are no words to explain. It’s not just music it’s something beyond... i listen to tool in awe how did those bands members made, bring out such a thing! 🤷♂️
TOOL as a whole are the definition of musical geniuses. They are poets and masters of their craft. There is no other band on the planet that can make me feel the music like they do. Not to mention the depth of the lyrics and composition of the music, the music is a journey. Especially when you sit back and absorb it all at the same time. You should listen to some of these songs off stream/camera. Just so you can simply let the music take hold of you without having to pause to react for us.
After years of living in constant mental pain I believe I understood something. The only way for me to get my life back and save myself (yes, I mean what you may think I mean) is to get rid of the grudge I hold. To forgive. I can't even comprehend it, but that's my glimmer of hope, more soothing than anything I used to kill my anger, resentment and sense of failure. Some part of me refuses to forgive, but I know that's the best thing I can do to myself. My hatred makes no difference to the person I hate anyway, it only consumes and destroys me.
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and
Transmutate this cold and fated anchor.
Give away the stone. Let the waters kiss and
Transmutate these leaden grudges into gold."
If you're too at the very bottom of your life, please don't give up. I hope we can all find our way to give away the stone that breaks, humiliates and drags us down. The stone is heavy on your backs, but as soon as you let the ocean do it's job, you'll feel light and blissful.
(The Grudge may be my favourite Tool song. Certainly helped me the most.)
"When people call us "metal" I feel like taking a bath"
- Adam Jones
Not sure anyone REALLY knows what this song means but Saturn Ascends refers to Saturn completing it's journey around the sun back to where it was when you were born....every 27-30 years I think. I'm not super into astrology but I've read it says this age when you reach true adulthood and are presented with the opportunity to let shit go and continue towards enlightenment or to be dragged down by stuff you can't let go (song references lines like "the 1/the 10" {tree of life}...and "lifts you up like a child/drags you down like a stone"). You have another of these opportunities again at 54-60 and again in your late 80s. Way more in depth than I can get into in a RUclips comment but I think that's the jist....maynard being mad at someone who can't see this and continues to be drug down by the grudges they can't let go. I am an idiot tho so I could be WAY off. 😃🤷🏼♂️
One time i was driving listening to the Grudge and singing along. I tried to do the entire scream and got so light headed I almost passed out. I had to pull over for a minute to get back to normal
I almost did this same thing yesterday.
Your reactions are so genuine. Thank you for that ❤️🌀🤘
I have read that Saturn is a judge. You can search it and find it. - scarlet letter is made famous by a book, worth knowing the story. And yes, let go of your grudges or be drowned by holding into them (how i hear it).
So I can't even describe how amazing they are live.. it's another level. Aenima came on and they had this brick wall behind them and as the song progressed and Maynard's line "learn to swim" started to repeat the wall started to crack and the lights made it look like the entire stadium look like it was filling with water.. I can't describe the feeling that came with it
Let's return to Tool's unenlightened side and listen to Jerk Off from their Opiate ep. Now that is some angry Maynard.
Another great breakdown and commentary. Enjoy your getaway!
Please listen to Vicarious next!
You're ready for Third Eye (live), also check out H and Jimmy
There is so much reference to Freemasonry in their music and lyrics as I am a Mason. Your brothers are correct. Masonry is spiritual just as much as it is mathematical. Tool & Freemasonry have transmitted my life in so many ways. Another great Tool reaction my friend, there is still so much more for you to react to. Enjoy your time away, looking forward to your future Tool reactions!
Slowly becoming my favorite TOOL reactor. Jambi! Jambi! Jambi!
I love what you do bro as a fellow Christian you are a great example to me you put me at ease for reasons I will not get into but just thank you for doing what you do and being here It helps and ways you'll never know
Cool reaction video, thanks, like the treadmill too btw, good idea, have a safe trip, we'll look forward to more vids, peace!
Wow, bro. Not only did you just get it the first try…it hit you like it should as well. That was inspirational to watch. Thank you!
Look up Kronos, the Greek equivalent to the Roman god Saturn. The meaning of "lifts you up like a child, or drags you down like a stone" will become much more clear.
One of the Tool-s finest tracks
Amazing reaction!!
Greetings from Brazil
The fact that no one ever mentions that that long scream is him saying “Goooooooo” followed by him repeating “let go, let go, let go” amazes me.
I’m a yoga instructor and It’s my permanent yoga mantra - people have no idea it comes from Maynard’s lyrics. So perfect. It’s all you need.
That LONG scream near the end was him letting of of the stone that was holding him down.
Tool army, checking in 👍 (as usual)
I didn’t see it below, but this is about his resentment about his mother’s unfailing faith after being stricken ill for years, 10,000 days or how long it takes for Saturn to return. There are several songs that go into it, including Judith from A Perfect Circle (his mom’s middle name) and Wings for Marie (his mom’s first name) and, of course 10,000 days. He finally let his grudge go and came to appreciate his mother’s faith.
'that hit me like a truck'
As the build up to the scream happens 😎
Vicarious should be one you consider soon. Yes always have lyrics up and headphones so you get the masterful editing. No bubblegum music hear.. TOOL music is educated, thoughtful, insightful. I am enjoying your journey..
Love seeing new fans being made..also great introspection, on your part, a lot of people can not catch the meaning from just one listen.
Very grounded / tribal band..
Tool Army .
This song and others use a lot of references to Alchemy.
Love this bad, they without a doubt helped me thru some dark times.
Disposition Reflection Triad should be next
These guys never miss👍keep going
they put on a live experience like no other!!! Enjoy
I remember 25 years ago visiting my brother in Sacramento for the summer from me being from nebraska and hearing Eulogy on the radio. You wouldn't have heard stuff like that on the in Nebraska at that time thinking "that was awesome who was that"? And my brother kinda laughing and saying Tool. When we got done working that night I immediately walked 5 mins down the road to this cool little record store called Dimple records and bought everything they had released from 91-99 so opiate, Undertow, Aenema, and saliva and came back from bugging out about Tool and i havent stopped at damn near 40 years old. Damn time goes by so fast the older you get
Tool has layers. It is your tool in interpreting the world. If you see the bigger picture in a song, roll with it, you can't go wrong. They layer like this on purpose, so that at every level you can get what you need from it.
love your reactions to tool, hope you had an awesome time with your fam!
As a Freemason, I know that your brothers can attest to the fact that "transmutating" lead into gold is one imagery we use in the Fraternity. And, it is used in many areas. One that is rife with symbolism and begs a closer look to those that have eyes to see and ears to hear.
It is central to The Great Work
I've seen countless bands live. Tool is my favorite live show. (It was the Lateralus tour)
I’m lovin this, I came to your page for norm and now tool
Keep 'em comin'! Vicariously reliving my initial Tool experiences through your channel has been a thrill and exercise in enlightenment. As someone mentioned, this band seems to have a sixth-sense into when to enter your life.
When you have the time/energy, explore their earlier works off Undertow...specifically Flood. And when you're emotionally ready, Prison Sex.
I'd wait awhile before Wings For Marie 1&2 (off 10,000 Days), that takes emotional fortitude to work-through. If they tour in your region, make it a point to go
Awesome description for the song.
This song on another level!
Also I have 3 kids and 3 grandkids. None of them progressed at the same rate, but the most important thing is,
through the benefit of hindsight,
all those negative times or the CONS of raising babies are so
fleeting. I only vaguely recall all 3 of my kids having the worst colic you can imagine for 2 wks.
Seemed like a long nightmare living it. But time handles all that negative and the bad times get fewer and farther between. Never really catch up on sleep, but I don't regret any of it.
His scream in this song gives me chills. I guess he was letting go lol. You are probably gonna enjoy “Vicarious” when you get to it. Not saying you should get away from Tool, but you should take a very brief break and check out A Perfect Circle “Judith”. It’s another one of Maynard’s bands and it’s about his mother and her faith.
The Grudge
Tool
Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity
Calculate what we will or will not tolerate
Desperate to control all and everything
Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen
Clutch it like a cornerstone
Otherwise it all comes down
Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end
Clutch it like a cornerstone
Otherwise it all comes down
Terrified of being wrong
Ultimatum prison cell
Saturn ascends, choose one or ten
Hang on or be humbled again
Humbled again
Clutch it like a cornerstone
Otherwise it all comes down
Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end
Saturn ascends, comes round again
Saturn ascends, the one, the ten
Ignorant to the damage done
Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity
Calculate what we will or will not tolerate
Desperate to control all and everything
Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen
Wear the grudge like a crown
Desperate to control
Unable to forgive
And sinking deeper
Defining, confining, sinking deeper
Controlling, defining, and we're sinking deeper
Saturn comes back around to show you everything
Let's you choose what you will, will not see and then
Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again
Spits you out like a child, light and innocent
Saturn comes back around
Lifts you up like a child
Or drags you down like a stone to
Consume you till you choose to let this go
Choose to let this go
Give away the stone
Let the oceans take and
Transmutate this cold and fated anchor
Give away the stone
Let the waters kiss and
Transmutate these leaden grudges into gold
Let go
Brother, Tool - Reflection
The Grudge is very powerful. The next time I play this track for someone for the first time I'm going to just tell them, "It's powerful." 🖤🤘🏽