Converting HATERS To Avatar: The Last Airbender 3x1 | Reaction/Review
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The final season of Avatar The Last Airbender has started with Zuko returning to the Fire Nation and Aang waking up to a crazy situation #react #avatar
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Carter defending my favorite show and trying to make sure everyone appreciates it is admirable
People always get the parallel between Aang wanting his honor back, and then showing Zuko. But they miss the parallel between the two father-daughter and father-son conversations between Akota-Katara and Ozai-Zuko.
Hakoda*
@@warband2272 Hakoda is the leader of their village in the South Pole, but the Southern Water Tribe aren't independent from the Northern Water Tribe. The Chief of the Water Tribe in the North is considered the leader of the whole Water Tribe nation. The Southern Water Tribe doesn't become their own independent nation separate from the Northern Water Tribe until Korra's time. So Sokka and Katara are not at all on the same political level as Yue, Zuko, or Azula.
@@emilyprice178 The Southern Water Tribe (SWT) is an independent state at the South Pole and is the southern division of the Water Tribe. In ATLA, the SWT is very small and comprised mainly of women, children, and elders as the men of the village were off fighting in the war against the Fire Nation. You are incorrect
Wouldn't you say they're effectively 2 distinct people? Not sure if any official recognition in-universe makes a difference. Especially if given later on in Korra. The only distinction is by degree but not type. Sokka still occupied a similar role being the son of a leader of a distinct people with a rich history & unique culture separate from the Northern Water Tribe
@@warband2272 chief unfortunately is not equal to royalty in the south pole. If u want a water tribe equivalent of royalty, there's one in the north pole, Princess Yue. But she died.
It’s 100% understandable Aang would be upset that everyone thinks he’s dead. He feels he failed the world when we ran away 100 years ago and now he has a chance to right the balance and everyone thinks he’s dead. He doesn’t want people to believe he failed, he doesn’t want people to lose hope bc that’s what he represents
Yes it's understandable but still stupid.
@@pare5108I don't think it's stupid, as a woman I always have a hard time understanding that "Honor" in men....but think about how you would feel if you were Ang, the plan is not a bad idea, we all know that, but by following him he knows that there are millions of people who have lost hope that the war is over because he is no longer here 🤷🏻♀️ .... Have you ever seen Saint Seiya or Lost Canvas? there you can see what Honor is in the Knights 😭😭😭
Yeah, and it's pretty on character for Aang to withdraw or/and run away during emotionally intense moments
Yeah these people's IQs always remain in the double digits lol
@@pare5108 he is a 12 year old kid who has the greatest responsibility in the world as the avatar, upon waking up he is told that the entire world thinks he failed, imagine the thousands of families who heard the news of the Avatar dying and assume that the war is lost, so of course his first action is to go and redeem himself as soon as possible
you guys want him to act like a hyper intelligent adult when in reality this is just a kid who doesn't want people to think he failed again, we already saw what the elderly generation thinks of Aang during The Storm episode, they lived their entire lives hearing stories of the avatar's power just to live out their lives never seeing his return, Aang failed them by running away 100 years ago, so imagine how he feels knowing the next generations believes he failed as well
Everyone but Carter thinking they know how it is to be a child with the burden of the world on their shoulders lmao
For real, he called them out for being near sighted like he said, and they ended up getting pissed they were so unintelligent about it.
Carter is right, it’s not as simple as “aang is being stupid and selfish” and even if everyone else “understands where he’s coming from” they aren’t being empathetic at all (I know it’s a bit silly to criticize people for not being empathetic to a fictional character but the point still stands)
You can do both
Maybe it's better to be less defensive with the show when it comes to other's opinion n-n'
If they haven't watch it or don't remember then, at the end they'll know this needed to happen :D
We could argue that... Aang IS a kid, so he's going to make stu#id desicions but still, it's their perception and i couldn't agree more that Aang was being selfish, i don't think it'll make them like the show less because of it.
I would argue that it's not silly to criticize people for not being empathetic to a fictional character because the point of stories is FOR them to play on our emotions. As long as a character is portrayed, we view them as people. So if we lack empathy, it isn't about whether or not the character is fictional. It's about whether or not the person has empathy for them, regardless if they are real or not. They're either an empathetic person to the scenario or they aren't.
@@enriquebarragan212 Perhaps it's also better to let commenters have and express their opinions to the video as well though. If someone has an opinion and someone else as an opposing opinion, that's fine. Literally the reactors on the couch also discuss and disagree and debate on opinions as well. As long as we aren't demonizing each other or trying to control them. But making a case for a different opinion is fair game. Like they did. Like the OP did. Like you did. And like I'm doing.
The biggest part of success is giving yourself permission to fail.
Its important to keep in mind Aang wasnt raised an avatar 100 years ago, hes been the avatar for only a few months. And in that time he's disappeared twice, with both of these resulting in the downfall of an entire nation and friends hurt/killed.
Yeah everytime Aang is gone, the world loses hope.
He should really stop doing that
@@TheJerbol hes a 13 year old...he's a freaking child with so much responsibility
I agree with Carter on so many points. And also "it is irrational, dramatic and stupid". Yeah, they are human and children. All of us have acted stupid and irrational. And while the the decision itself might be stupid, it is still character driven and makes sense in the universe
Carter is speaking so much facts. Then everyone else gets overly defensive and unwilling to admit that they though Aang was just being dumb with no reasoning behind it. Idk, just kinda frustrated me how everyone else reacted to Carter making really good points
The back peddle was real
so true. i’m glad carter spoke up about it cause he’s 100% right
Fr and he didn’t budge respect that idk why they could t just admit it it wasn’t so serious that they had to gang up on him felt a lil tension lol but they friends so it blew off immediately 😂❤
right carter gets it
1. He's 12.
2. He failed the world BIG time by running away.
3. His absence contributed to the genocide of his people.
4. He came back SUUUUPER late to fix things resulting in even more lives lost.
5. He made another selfish choice (Katara) instead of facing his responsibilities (mastering the Avatar State), which resulted in Ba Sing Se being captured after holding out for 100 years.
6. The world is fully aware of his failure at Ba Sing Se.
Guys this is a lot for anyone to handle, let alone a child. His decisions were stupid but they made a lot of sense when you consider all of this. That's why I agree with Carter (Canon?) that you guys were too harsh on him.
Carter was so right and the fact that they all got so defensive and wouldnt even try to understand shows me exactly how much empathy there is in this group
Regardless of the logistics, I'd have hated if Zuko's scar got healed. There's a point to it and nice symbolism surrounding it.
Agreed, imagine that parallel scene between Aang and Zuko's honor in this episode without his scar.
@@Macintosh1001 Ye for example
@@Macintosh1001if zuko lost the scar aang would be dead and there would be no more episodes.
@@datname1939 That too xD
plus he looks cool with the scar
Appreciate the one guy reminding the rest to look past the surface of the character's actions. Love this show and characters and I love when people can connect to the characters by trying to see things from their view. ❤️ Hope everyone ends up loving this series 🎉
That is Carter by the way. I completely agree with him! 😊☺️
not the whole group gaslighting carter at the end there lol
Ngl the way that everyone was denying the fact that they WERE making those comments is crazy. Like it’s literally on video. And the people defending themselves and saying they weren’t making those comments were the ones saying that kinda stuff the most 😂
He’s got some fake ass friends
It can be a dramatic call back and a stupid decision. Which is what makes the writing so good in Avatar. Characters have more depth than a single character trait and are allowed to experience and convey human emotions. I can understand why someone would find Aang's behavior frustrating but personally it's episodes like this that makes me appreciate the script writers. Aaron Ehasz definitely cooked.
Ye I don't get how anyone could think this wasn't a great episode.
totally agree
Characters are supposed to be frustrating. In real life, people frustrate you and irritate you. Characters have to feel real.
I agree. Just because we empathize with someone and understand the motivations behind their behavior doesn't mean we agree with excuse the behavior. It's perfectly fine to say that you understand how someone feels and also acknowledge that they are expressing it in an inappropriate, unhealthy, or abusive manner. In "the Desert" for instance, Aang had every right to feel enraged but he didn't have a right to lash out at his friends. In this episode, I can understand how upset Aang is because he doesn't want people to think he abandoned them again but his behavior is reckless and endangers himself and everyone else.
Someone in the reaction pointed out, "we all make stupid decisions". I think that's an excellent reflection that demonstrates empathy and the recognition of poor decision-making and that these two things are not mutually exclusive.
*I want to clarify that I don't think there was anything wrong with the points that were made regarding Aang's point of view and character growth. I just wanted to make the point that it's also okay to show empathy and also point out unhealthy behaviors.
**Also, I can understand is that during the reaction portion, it makes sense that some people will feel super frustrated or irritated by characters' actions. I think that in itself is fine because those are just raw unfiltered initial emotions which these reaction videos are meant to capture. The place where you can sort of resolve those unfiltered emotional reactions with the consideration to context is during the discussion portion of the reaction which I think you did an okay job with here. As long as those issues are brought up in the discussion portion, I think it is fair for viewers not to be too critical of the reaction portion; it's important to keep in mind, that the as previously mentioned, the reactions are meant to be unfiltered so I don't think that's the way they would act towards someone the real world. I would imagine that they would react in a more composed and thoughtful way in everyday life.
***edited for clarification points.
People who act as if a human's progression is just linear and we never experience regression and never ourselves regress to our "worst selves" are just purely dishonest.
Carter was spitting straight facts this episode 🗣️
exactly!! They are so quick to jump on Aang instead of seeing his perspective.
@@amberalexandria957 FR! Like cut my boy some slack pls lol. He’s dealing with alot rn. He has a right to be a lil dramatic. 😭
You can empathize with someone and still give criticism 😂
@@cannonandrus5554 I agree 100% with that but I just felt you guys were a little heavy on the criticism lol. 😭
@@TheAfricanGreyHonestly always heavy on the criticism when it comes to Aang. Just what I noticed...
The feeling of losing hope can turn huge tides in the war. Soldiers lose motivation, people lose their will. Aang being seen as dead is good for Team Avatar, but it undoubtedly has an effect on the whole world, which can be incredibly heartbreaking to someone who's duty is to the world.
Add in to the fact that if some soldiers still had fight left in them, ozai’s shock campaign would’ve destroyed it completely had it worked.
There's also the fact he already went through this once and saw the result firsthand of him being gone 100 years. Now everyone thinks he's dead again, you had hope again and it just as quickly is taken away now. That can indeed have an impact and like how our guys can take advantage of no one knowing he's alive, the other side can take advantage of him being dead as well.
I dont understand the hate for Aang since the beginning.. he's freaking 12-13 and had to shoulders huge burden of the world..
Only weirdos hate aang
he is not 12 or 13
I hate that the girls call him out for being “dramatic” like have some empathy
Hes actually 112 years old because of how long he was frozen in the iceberg
@@kennywavygaming5514 hes "technically 112, but physically and mentally 12 years old
Im glad Carter said something, they sometimes go a little too far with the negative comments on a characters actions. I wish they didnt gAang up on him either for making a mature comment to look past the surface either.
That parallel man "i need my honor back" and just rushes in just like Zuko. Iroh would say "you don't think this things thru!"
I love the scene with Katara and Hakoda so much. I love the angle they went with, where she's harboring resentment towards her dad and doesn't even realize it until Aang leaving brings it all out. Her processing her feelings is so well done, saying that logically, she knows Hakoda did nothing wrong but she can't help but feel the way she does, and just needs to pour her heart out.
Katara had to take on so much responsibility at a young age, due to family tragedy. She can appear to be the most "put together" a lot of the time, since she always is trying to take care of her friends, but she has open wounds. (In fact, her being so motherly can be read partially as a trauma response, she essentially became what she lost.) She feels so real, she's such a good character.
Ozai surprised alot of female viewers when his face was finally revealed.
Bro what females, most of us were like 8yrs old when it was revealed 😂
Soon as they see him the 🐱 goes “I can fix him”
@@THE202probably a lot of the adult women reacting to avatar on RUclips.
@@THE202the shows main audience was like college age kids by s3
Every time I see that scene, I hear Squidward in my head saying "oh no, he's hot!"
imagine reliving a moment the world thought you disappeared which led to countless lives lost and being overwhelmed by emotion to prove to the world that theres still hope only for girls to call you dramatic. Carter W.
Viewers: I hate Ozai!
Also them: Oh no, he's hot!
Ughhhh Hakoda and Kataras dialogue tears me up everytime 😭
Katara is such a brat here. Imagine you just got back from liberating Auschwitz , fighting in Flujah, or the siege of Vienna or Gettysburg & your daughter treats you like that. Poor Hakoda.
@@TheMrPeteChannelNah she’s valid for feeling abandoned and it’s realistic. Even if you know logically that they’re doing the right thing she was still a kid without her parents
@@TheMrPeteChannel Naw she straight up said "I know y u had to, y do i still feel this way" she even knows shes being overly emotional. shes just getting her feelings out.
I 100% agree with Carter. I think Canon saying its a stupid decision is half the truth, and comes off as unnecessarily harsh. I would have followed up "it's stupid" with a qualifier, ie. "but I understand why he made a bad choice there, he has the weight of the world on his shoulders and his past trauma was brought up again and therefore made an irrational decision"
The latter kind of went without saying tbh
I think they shouldn’t be judging how she responds bc watching the show for the first time I had the exact same reactions, it took time for me to fully appreciate the pressure Aang was under
Guy in the white hoodie got salty when he was called out lol. Literally being emotional (“I would slap Aang”) as he says Aang is being stupid for getting too emotional. IRONIC 😂😂
The girls sitting back and watching the boys argue over the possibilities of stuff that happened on a show that ended about 20 years ago🚶♂️
them arguing over whether or not the scar would’ve been healed at the beginning was so funny. reminded of those lunch table talks arguing about the stupidest anime what ifs
Mark Hamill as Ozai is always a treat
I still don't understand how that's the same dude who played luke in Star wars, the voice is completely different it's insane
Wow I was today years old when I found out about this mark the 🐐
@@ChaChaRealSm00thyou should hear Mark as the Joker in the animated Batman series.
Aang is also 12. It's a little hard to remember because he's already developed so much by this time, but at the start of the show you can really see the immature, innocent kid that he is. He's grown a lot, but he IS still 12 years old. Reliving his most traumatic memory by failing, disappearing, and letting the world fall into chaos once again
everyone got waaaaay too defensive when carter pointed out his concerns. i'm not sure about everyone's names yet, but the dude in white is literally angry. i think it's pretty clear to see where carter was coming from. everyone was giving pretty surface level criticisms of aang, and he just wanted to make sure that everyone's considerations were more than surface. he can't read minds, he was just going off of what everyone was saying.
the way the guy in white got SO defensive lmao, his ego was very hurt
I appreciated what carter said at the end
Mai ready for her man while Azula playing evil chess
Every situation where chess is played is evil, it's just an evil game lol. Show me someone playing uno, throw some half evil in there
@@GoodTimeForARolllmaoo😭 I’ve never thought of it like that but that’s so true
Not all them gaslighting the guy who is telling them to look past the surface. Ugh they’re annoying
I think we were mostly frustrated that Carter didn’t think we understood those things about Aang, he is a very analytical thinker and obviously us guys have more experience reviewing shows so we were a bit taken back when he said that. We’ve all seen the show as well so we do understand the overall picture but we can’t always express that because Maddie hasn’t seen it
@jacksoncarter1731 we get that man it's just sometimes you guys get really caught up in the semantics and talk through what're supposed to be epic moments like roku appearing to aang, which is when Carter seemed to get really annoyed.
Fun fact: Katara’s voice actor (Mae Whitman) is the same girl that did tinkerbell’s voice
She’s also the actor that plays Ramona Flower’s evil ex-girlfriend in Scott Pilgrim. :)
@@namyL1 oh I didn't know that, only saw her play in The Duff, i'll have to check that out then :)
Her?
I mean c'mon Aang I know that you just woke up from a long coma, leaving the fate of your friends to Azula, Zuko plus the Dai Li and leaving the world hopeless once more after they had none for 100 years without being able to do anything about it, but like you gotta think rationally about the strategic advantage that we have from the news that you're dead. What? 2 days aren't enough to emotionally sort out all the guilt and responsibilities from those failures? Pffft what are you 12? What a baby, grow up!
Yeah I love their reactions but I don't full understand how some of them get annoyed so often by some of the things that make this show a masterpiece. Maybe they'd prefer a blank paper sheet of a character who doesn't change or struggle over the course of their whole show like there are thousands of those already?
@@kaijingarou6526 they're not. They just said that everyone is being dramatic this episode and that THEY GET WHY. they didn't say it wasn't justified, or that it was overdramatic.
Its a heavy on the drama episode and that's all. not everyone cries and gets emotional easily with shows
@@Rokkutai They claim to get it but most of them don't provide any evidence they do get it though, they just complain. It's OK, I still enjoy their reactions overall.
Carters the avatar of reasoning and seeing past the surface stuff
Everyone getting silent during Katara’s emotional scene with her dad is just… 🤌
The angry reaction to Zuko’s decision in the Book 2 finale and actions in early Book 3 is absolutely warranted and justified, but at the same time (without getting into spoilers) I do think his overall arc would be a lot less effective without it happening.
Agreed. Without the full picture it seems like the wrong move on the writers part, but when you watch the whole thing you realise it`s not only the right move, it was the best move they could`ve possibly make.
I agree too
Lol watching this at 6 AM! This is my fave book/season. Katara is SOOOO badass here (she’s always badass but she’s insanelyyyy badass in this book) also, even though season 2 finale had more of a shock factor, I did think season 1 finale was better. Just a much better build up tbh
couldnt put my finger on it till you said buildup i agree, in season 1 the gaang was in the north pole for a couple episodes but in the season 2 finale we are led to believe they just had a breakthrough and in only 1 episode it has completely turned around, not to mention the awe factor of aang and the koi fish merging
season 2 is definitely more well put together though it just felt out of left field
@@skull1161yes this is exactly what I meant!! Like yes Aang dying was shocking but the buildup for season 1 finale was better and didn’t seem as rushed as the season 2 finale
Please remember that they're human. Carter is 100% right.
When Addie side eyes the camera 😂
Hee hee!
Man I am so ready for this season
Aang heading to Fire nation might be stupid to us as audience but not to him. He failed at protecting the earth kingdom amd he feels guilty not only that the people in earth kingdom r now pretty much war criminals but also the fact he was right there. Unlike the at attack at Airtemples where aang wasnt present at the time, aang was there in earth kingdom and he couldn't do a thing. Ik it's frustrating but I also think it's sad when he tries to go in that Storm.
Also I think people overhate aang and don't hate zuko at all (it's not just u guys, many reactors). I'm not saying people should hate zuko and love aang I'm saying when people hate aang for not being perfect and being "whiny" and "angsty" but when zuko does it u let it go because why? Because aang is the "good guy" and zuko is "bad guy" so it's for him to frustrating but aang has to be perfect.
Even in the fandom, it seems like Zuko is the character ppl call out the least. Other characters, not even just aang, don’t get the same grace. And it’s like you said, it’s about who’s the good and bad guys. And that’s why I always feel for the good guys because they lose either way. If they’re too perfect, they get called flawless, unrealistic and Mary sues. But when they do mess up, ppl are upset because they’re not acting like the perfect good guy anymore. So it’s like, what do you want?
@@TheCloudRazorablethe only reactors ive seen that appreciate and understand Aang is LMreaction n goodwintv
Thank god, I found some more sensible people 🙏
thisssss
@@benlezmh1835 i liked yaboyroshis reaction too
Watching this at 1am before bed, love the reactions and discussions. Also appreciate the callbacks for Aang, its easy to forget that in his mind, he’s only been the Avatar for a couple of months. In his mind, he became a total orphan, got thrust into saving the world, preserving an entire culture, and having to grow out of being a normal 12 yo overnight 😭
At 14:00 Carter is telling the truth lol. Young Teenage boy (Aang) angry cause he failed. Of course he’s gunna be impulsive and irrational when He has god like powers but he still got wrecked. Makes sense he got upset. His destiny is to save the world but after he wakes up Ba Sing Se has been captured and the war is at an all time high for the fire nation. Anyways. Keep it up carter, great analysis.
Aang literally 12 years old imagine what he's going through put yourself in his shoes you're 12 you have to save the whole world against somebody that's trying to destroy it, then you just found out that your whole colony was wiped out by the same person that you have to defeat, Appa was stolen from you, and then you just find out that you died
Literally facts. The way they got so defensive in the end towards Carter regarding Aang also shows a lot. No empathy whatsoever.
Ozai already blamed Iroh for the loss against the Northern Water Tribe and then he sided with the Avatar against Azula and Zuko. He's obviously a hero for the audience but rightfully a big traitor for the Fire Nation without a doubt, yup.
I just realized. In "Avatar day", when Sokka loses his boomerang, he deems it as a loss of his identity, and questions how Aang and Katara would feel if they lost their staff and hair loops.
Here, they ditch their previous identity by burning the staff and making up a new hairstyle.
For the spirit water argument, I think if she had more of the spirit water she could have healed aang all the way. She still had to give him regular healing sessions after. If she used the water on the scar alone it probably would have healed.
You know since you guys are in the game now. I hope you cover Korra. But I thought maybe you guys should watch Overanalyzing Avatar. The dude will have you appreciating the show more than you already might have. He's also hilarious! Right now he's covering Korra, but he's gone through the entirety of Avatar and its comics. Highly recommend him to you guys, I think you all would enjoy him.
You see how hard-core they are for Aang. Many hardcore ATLA fans hate TLoK.
They called Aang dumb like 8 times in this episode alone. Then when the guy mentioned it at the end trying to defend Aang, she said "we never said that" while laughing.
Ms... Half of you did. Also, Addie always laugh at the most inappropriate times lol she seems a lil immature, but also could just have nerves from the camera.
Aang acting "stupid/annoying" is the point of the episode.
He's in so much turmoil and distress that he cannot think straight anymore (setup) and he gains back his composure by the end of the episode (payoff).
Not liking it is understandable but trying to point fingers at the writing is not.
Carter was spitting at the end
headband girl so pretty bro i cant even
I HATE how the fire nation is like “oh we took down Ba Sing Se” like no, the Dai Lee did, they could have easily just said no to Azula and she wouldn’t have been able to do anything, they could have locked her up and did their good ole brainwashing technique on her or whatever - they LITERALLY took down the walls themselves 😭
Well, the fact that Azula infiltrated and converted the Dai lee means that the fire nation did take "Ba Sing Se" from the inside.
@@Macintosh1001 no no I get you, but like you guys are the CIA of Ba Sing Se, why are you folding to a 14 year old girl who can’t beat you? I never understood that, they spent years brainwashing people to believe there was no war and then turn around and give the city to the nation who there was supposedly no war with 😭, it’s like they blindly followed Long Feng and BOOM drop him for nothing
That is such a bizarre take. "Well they could've just done that to Azula and there was nothing they could've done to stpo it' Yeah, except she outsmarted long feng, played the long game and and won. Azula still infiltrated and meanaged to turn the Dai Lee to their side, so they did take "Ba Sing Se" from the inside. It's not like they are saying she did everything by herself.
@@pimentx3253 it’s not a bizarre take, it’s just odd that the Dai Lee can just turn on their nation just like that, and for what? It’s not like she offered them anything
@@zubabee would be nice if season 2 spent a little more time on the Dai Li cause to me it seems like Azula shows up a couple times and suddenly they betray their entire nation for some foreign princess just because shes what... royalty and hes not? that doesnt make much sense, especially considering the Dai Li as a whole have all the power in season 2, they can make the decision whether to arrest Azula or not
If you really like happy endings over sad ones I can see why you'd prefer season 1 finale but I'd argue season 2 is objectively better.
I mean, we have Toph
@@joseblanco3929 I was only talking about the finale
@@kaijingarou6526it has such an emotional impact and it perfectly sets up Book 3
Carter speaking facts 🙌
It’s so clear by watching the reactions of these people, they are kids except Carter. They seem to want everyone to have the same character and think logically all the time and have no development. Like flat pieces of paper. I am glad Carter stood up for Aang. Obviously as a young kid who has the weight of the whole world on his shoulders and went missing for 100 years will feel like he failed again. I don’t understand the comments of he is being dramatic and he made a stupid decision. If you really look into it there is a reason for his decisions so technically if you do simple math and understand basic human behaviour you will realize he didn’t make a dumb decision. Also in your eyes they are dumb decisions, but without certain decisions no one will ever grow. Even in the real world. So there was no dumb decision made if you look at everything. He literally feels hopeless and like a failure. Again no empathy shown.
100% correct. Does anyone know how old they are?
😂😂😂 bro how did you get this from what we said
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@@cannonandrus5554talk about overanalysing lmfaooo. People always critique what you guys say but I love the debates and how you all have different perspectives
GOATED SEASON!!!!
The water was not used to heal Aangs skin, thats why he still has the scar. It would have worked perfectly on Zukos scar
My only two cents is this. Aang is really mature and has so much development, but he still makes stupid decisions like everyone, but he is still 12!!! They mentioned it at the end, after I started writing this. 😁
Dude in the black with the glasses is so on point with his explanation of why this episode is so good
I love how maddie has no patience for zuko and his shenanigans. The fanbase is overly sympathetic towards him. In a way He mistreated iroh and everyone else until he was trapped by azulas lie. If aang had actually died in ba sing s, I doubt zuko would have changed.
I disagree with that last statement. Zuko was already feeling conflicted when he was standing in the Ba Sing Se throne room with Azula after their victory. I think even if Aang had died, Zuko would still have felt conflicted due to Iroh's influence on him. I think Aang's survival added pressure to Zuko to do some soul-searching, but I think even if Aang died, Zuko probably would have eventually realised that he was wrong, it would have just taken a little longer without the pressure of losing his honour again.
Zuko would’ve changed eventually even if he never got banished. What was inside Zukos heart was different from his sister and father. There would have been Someting or even maybe when we went to war.
While it's a healthy practice to be critical of fiction, and while Zuko (nor any character in this series, except maybe Iroh) is by no means "perfect" as a person or a character, having no patience for an intricately crafted character and the thoughtful flaws put into them by the author, comes off as foolish and surface-level viewing to me. "The fanbase is overly sympathetic towards him" is a resentful persepctive.
@@handsomeghrest7811 you need to calm down. Allow people have their genuine reactions. we aren't stupid, we get these characters are dynamic but everytime someone isn't singing praises towards fan favourite characters like aang, iroh, zuko and toph this fanbase gets very annoyingly sentimental. I don't care. For me as a viewer zuko motives have always been selfish. Even when he became good, it was ultimately to feed his own obsession with finding his personal purpose. The writers tried to repair this in the comic though.
Btw, What really comes off foolish is you feeling like you can tell people the proper way to react to characters.
@@pare5108 My response to your comment was not meant to be taken personally. I am a novelist myself and felt that your criticism was not founded in rational argument/could not be defended by the material of the series. Again, "repair" implies that something was broken to begin with, a claim that you cant substantiate with evidence. But of course, you are entitled to dislike the way the fanbase reacts to certain characters and arcs.
At no point did I "tell you how to react". I just disagreed with you, the choice to get triggered was yours.
I LOVE S1 FINALE. It had massive spirit battle, YUE AND SOKKA, Zhao and Zuko showdown, Iroh with Gaang, just so much in it.
Dude in black at the end speaking facts, rest of 'em just waffling over the episode
Carter really be the only one speaking facts
they all said shit about him, they kinda got called out and back peddled so fast. Its not what u say its how u say it, u guys really went in on him.
You guys forgot, psychologically, Aang was just a 12 year old kid. An Avatar who was thrust upon the responsibility of saving the world from the strongest and most ruthless enemy, the Fire Nation ..... and Azula (hahaha).
Aang also literally died so that would also take a toll on him. Like he said, he was there in Ba Sing Se and he failed...really badly. I don't blame the guy for feeling how he felt and leaving. Yes it was dumb to just leave like that but no one is gonna be rational in that kind of situation lol
The guy in the black shirt in the middle is like the Earth King and everyone else are Dai Li agents in this video. Denying that they were making those comments on the kid's actions they deem irrational is their version of "There is no war in Ba Sing Se" 💀 W to that one dude in the middle.
Can’t wait for yall to meet Mr and Mrs fire next episode it’s a funny one
I think the difference between healing aangs scare or zukos scare could be that in aangs case most of the waters "special properties" where used to revive aang while in zukos case it could fully focus on healing the skin
Season 3!!!!! yes, finally 😁😁😁 In my opinion this is the best of all!!!
I love the debate in the beginning, lol. Everyone made valid points, lol. Also, it's definitely a hot take. But I respect your opinion, lol.
On the spirit water healing possibly Zuko's scar: Zuko was right, a scar is already healed skin and it can't be re-healed. Aang's injury is a mortal wound and still fresh; the spirit water healed the spiritual damage by bringing him back to life but all the physical damage is still there. In order for Zuko's face to be healed, he would have to be burned again.
This is my favorite avatar the last airbender season ❤
I was screaming crying shaking throwing up at Ozai's face reveal (I watched ATLA for the 1st time last year, okay)
14:10 He was right! Yall were like that, he made a fantastic argument, yall gas lighting him!
I can’t wait episode 8 🥹🙏
Omg yesss. It's my favourite episode.
Zuko had a spiritual awakening and went through enlightenment prior to this. When a person goes through this they become a different and better person. And that's what you saw Zuko going through when he was sick and Iroh was taking care of him and he then woke up as a better person. Him betraying Iroh did not make sense writing-wise seeing how Zuko was set up to go the other direction and team up with the gaang and Iroh to defeat Azula. This was foreshadowed in a previous episode as well. (This will make more sense when you look more into the chakra plot hole from the show and how Buddhism played a huge part in the series.)
Episode 41: of appreciating appreciating the ladies of Studio Gek. (Respectfully)
it's also possible the intention matters with the spirit water healing. imagine the spirit water as fuel. katara can use that fuel to bring someone back from just dying (like she did with aang) but there's not enough fuel to heal his scar as well after bringing him back. if she used the fuel purely with the intention of healing the scar, like with zuko, perhaps there would have been enough fuel for it to work because she wouldn't be doing the wildly difficult task of bringing someone back to life
if your car is on empty, you have enough fuel to drive home or to drive to the gas station. you don't have enough to drive home then drive to the gas station, gotta pick one or the other. bad analogy but yeah, maybe katara didn't have enough spirit water left to also heal the scar after she brought aang back to life.
The spirit water may have worked to heal Zuko's scar if that is what Katara was aiming to do, we don't know. She wasn't worried about Aang having a scar, she just wanted him alive.
Avatar aired 3 years in a row with long gaps between episodes. But seasons 1 and 2 were only a few months apart. Season 3 started 10 months after season 2. It was torture.
that scene of Katara with her Dad perfectly represents what kids who have deployed parents must feels
You know it took me a while to realize that they were setting up a lot of parelles between Katara and Azula. Aang and Zuko are not the only two characters set up to contrast in that way.
In this episode you see the difference in their relationships with their respective fathers. But there are a lot of times they contrast in narrative and circumstances.
Aang is a 14/15yo kid, the episode is about dealing with failure and loss. He lost his entire people last time he went into a "coma". Then wakes up and simply panics, and when we panic, we do stupid things. Great people also had failures and irrational moments. Also the Katara tries to make him see that he as to accept help, also expect losses, but they choose to help him. Dont forget there were casualties and prisioners in the last season.
Aang is 14/15, katara 16/17, zuko and sokka 18/19.
Nah my G you're getting all the ages wrong. At the Promise comic, after the EOS, its stated Aang is almost 14. This means that during season 3 he was 13, even if at the start of the series he is 12. Katara starts the series as 14, but there is no reference if she has her birthday during the series or not, its possible that by EOS shes 15. Just like Sokka starts at 15 and maybe ends up at 16.
Zuko is supposed to be the oldest and he is 16. By the end of the series its really easy to forget how young they are, specially aang, because they mature so much.
@@pietroiso2 thanks for the correction, my memory. Still, my point is to emphatise with Aang's losses over the season and impact on a young kid.
Actually Aang is 114🤓
@@Macintosh1001 😂😂
@@guimagsantos i totally agree with you, when i was 13 i was arguing with my friends over a minecraft server and getting mad because of it. Imagine having to save the world at that age, totally justified behavior hahahaha
This show had such a good progression of power in these characters, it wasn’t like katara was suddenly good, like it felt earned with how good she is in season 3
3:20 these girls are so real literally my reaction to zuko in season 3 😭
I agree with the hot take about the season finals. I prefer season 2 to season 1 overall, but I think the finale of season 1 is better 🤷🏻♀️
9:09 "he's kind of a baddie" LMAOO
Katara could have healed Zuko's scar. That's the entire point. For one, if you want to apply logic to the "wave your hands and make a giant explosion and stomp your feet to do complex terraforming" universe, then it's that Katara was attempting to bring Aang back to life as her priority and thus she wasn't concerned about scars while if she'd used it on Zuko, it would've been solely to heal him. Thematically though, it shows what Zuko sacrificed by turning away from the path he'd chosen. He chose to go back to the Fire Nation and back in his old role as Prince Zuko, Heir to the Throne. Therefore he has restored his "honor" and achieved his goal of being back in his father's good graces...but at a cost.
Remember after he woke up from his fever, Zuko felt at peace. He was HEALING emotionally from his trauma. He'd given up on trying to appease his father and accepted that was not his path and was not good for him. He was content with the direction of his life. His initial reaction to seeing his sister was just like Iroh's - prepare to attack (only Zuko thought standing his ground when outnumbered 15 to 1 was a good idea). Katara offering to heal his scar was a symbol of the healing he'd done emotionally - an external sign of his internal progress. But he didn't chose that path, so he didn't get healed, just as taking the wrong path...well, you'll see as Season 3 progresses how well he's healing emotionally now.
Meanwhile, Aang's scar is a reminder of what happened. It's a reminder that the attack on Aang not only was deadly, but that it also took away his ability to enter the Avatar State. His chakra is permanently blocked because of the attack and he cannot access the final chakra due to the injuries he sustained. So it makes sense from a storytelling perspective (esp. on a kids show that was on when VODs and DVRs were in their infancy and streaming not a thing yet) to keep a visual reminder so audiences can go "Oh yeah, that's why he can't get into the Avatar State. Azula zapped him."
Season 2 finally is definitely better 😅 but it's ok to have a preference 😊
I’m pretty sure at this point in the show, zuko would be the heir to the throne bc he’s the first born but mostly bc he has the credit for killing aang. With that being said though if it came out that zuko didn’t kill aang and was he was still loyal to the fire nation, ozai would have no problem doing what azulon couldn’t (crown the second born)
And maybe ozai would even banish zuko again to capture the avatar😂😂 (if he was still loyal to the fire nation ofc ;))
I agree the season 1 finale is better than the season 2 finale
what if ozai got iroh's son killed
I love seeing the girls truly enjoy and voice their thoughts each episode. 💕 Everyone has development sure but when they make a questionable move it is still frustrating.😂
14:20 they’re so defensive it’s just a critique 😂
Hotter take: S1 finale is better than S3 finale
Ok……..you just went too far with that one😂😂😂
@@StudioGek haha, I am actually serious about that but I’ll comment my thoughts on that when you guys get there.
Hmmmm
19:37 Zuko's mom actually killed Ozai's dad, which was why she left. But I can see how people miss it!
I meant 19:34 *