I mean idc about SC, the scope of the game looks promising but it's really rough to watch, especially the ground/FPS part, even some indie games can do better
yeah i see no reason why people would want it to fail other than to just say they were right if 42 failed, it would probably be horrible for the rest of the industry, especially the sci fi genre. which could really use a solid success right about now. even though i had little faith in this part of the game, i still REALLY want it to do well. hell i wanna play the thing, i just hope it turns out good
yeah, people should be more like Asmon. it looks good, and if its good when its out then he will play it, if not then he will ignore it and play the next thing.
I love how the trailer quality was so good that when they shifted to real-world footage of Earth, Manchester, everyone thought we were still in the game engine! 😂
Anyone that finds the "no loading screens" part impressive - the "star citizen engine demo" from Saturday is a must watch. It's literally a 20 minute engine demo of 1 continuous shot with 0 loading screens. They go from planet to planet, from inside a ship in space, to watching grass blow in the wind on the planet surface.
You didnt notice the hick ups uh ?This game is so ambitious that it will be a literal bug fest for at least the first year of release. Crazy clothing simulation per individual lmao....lets see how that goes when a big group is on screen. There are way way more probs than that. I so hope to be wrong, but i'm not
exactly. and more than that, you should also want this to succeed even if you dont care about these games, because the tech they're trying to perfect, is what will bring gaming as a whole into a new era. Where games can make incredibly big scoped games and have it work with thousands of players participating.
@@Mr-R.R.people only want it to fail so they can laugh and scream "i told you all it was a scam!!!" but this game succeeding would be massive for sci-fi games and the whole gaming industry
They have shown the server meshing that everyone said was gonna be impossible they now have it working and showed us so I doubt anything can stop em now! short of an apocalypse or at least economic collapse in at least one of the many countries they're developing parts of the game in! and we are talking about the US, UK and Germany which are doing okay enough I'm a bit worried for the American economy, the UK government tried trickle up economics by giving the poor money packages to get by and it worked because the £ has bounced back to full stability from what had been the worst value of the pound after 30 years of stability! so with all that in account lets just say I was losing hope until this years presentation, and i'm not religious but I have faith once again that this game and it's multiplayer counterpart can seal the deal we made as players when we invested our money all those years ago! I knew it wasn't gonna be a smooth ride or a quick one, like Rome it was built from the ground up and it wasn't built in a day! Also the way they've done their server meshing is gonna revolutionize the games industry because it makes large scale high quality mmo's like these with physics systems on par with scientific simulations possible we are gonna see a lot more mmo's with simulation level physics, no loading screens and 80-90% universe or game wide crashes!
"Why did they work on this instead of Star Citizen?" The two games are like the conjoined twins that were connected at the skull. They share the same assets, engine, and event universe. Building one directly influences the other.
that is probably what delayed SQ42 so much, them constantly changing things and having to rework core aspects of the game, meant they had to delay the development of SQ42 until some of those core aspects were set into stone.
@@danilooliveira6580 Honestly the opposite is more the case. A LOT of resources have been poured into SQ42 and (for better or worse) they've been pretty hush-hush about S42 progress. But there are a bunch of features that only exist in S42 that have never been ported to the PU for multiple reasons (most of them server-related), so a lot of progress on the game was invisible to players on the MMO side of things. The general idea, though, that making essentially 2 games at once delayed both of them, is basically correct.
Also SQ42 will be what they show off to the world. The Star Citizen MMO component is really just for more serious fans and online player community. HUGE amount of people are not into multiplayer stuff. Not to mention MMO will not have massive cinematic story-lines and epic moments, it will be a grind fest to get your next ship.
The entire video is gameplay. Anyone who has played one of the Wing Commanders games will recognize Chris Roberts' style. It's always very story-driven, lots of interactions and cutscenes interspersed by missions and combat. We haven't really seen a game like this since Freelancer and it's nice to see Mark Hamill and John Rhys-Davies. They were both in Wing Commander 3 & 4 as well!
Not only that Who will want to make a major franchise title in any other engine? Alien, Warhammer, Dungeons and Dragons, literally limitless possibilities
And anyone who knows Chris Roberts, knows this is already 12+ years into development and 3+ years behind schedule and unlikely to come out anytime THIS decade.
Prophecy was always my favorite. Loved that game. Could be the fact I'd recently got a better flight stick so I could roll by twisting, but the control and combat in thatgame just haven't been matched for me.
I tried star citizen recently and was actually surprised at how much fun I had, games still horrendously broken but it's more fun than star field. There I said it.
thats because the servers just suck so much. most of the bugs are connected to server issues in some way. if you are lucky enough to play on an empty server the game feels so much more fluid and polished.
As HaNs said, the servers do suck pretty bad, but its also because a lot of what comes to SC is only after it gets finished in SQ42. Once SQ42 is released i bet SC will see a massive boost in things getting done.
When I experienced the detail, scale and scope of Star Citizen, I stopped caring about a release date honestly. What they're doing for gaming is truly amazing, and I'm happy to be along for the ride.
Even if Star Citizen wasn't delivering what it promised I would be glad that the project existed primarily because Space Games as a whole were Dead besides 2 or 3 very small time games before SC shattered records with its crowd funding. By showing that there was MASSIVE interest in space games people started making games big and small all over the place and its been wonderful to have so many options. Astroneer, Cosmoteer, Elite Dangerous, Space Engineers, Everspace 1-2, Hardspace Shipbreaker, Kerbal Space Program, No Mans Sky, Rebel Galaxy, Space Pirates and Zombies, The list goes on and on. I don't think any of those games would have received the funding required to exist if Star Citizen didn't show that interest was there and that people would buy the games.
100% with you lol! Happy to be part of it. I take 3 months breaks then come back all the time, been doing it since kickstarter. Can't wait to see where it goes in the next few years 😄
Exactly this! I have been in for the die roll almost from the beginning. In my Youth I played almost all Origin games, Probably only missing Wing Commander one. I even played a lot of strike commander.
You should definitely check out the engine demo video, it shows a lot of the tech in the game. people forget they have not just been building a game, They started with 5 people in 2012, now they now have 1200 staff 5 studios across the world, a motion capture studio, they had to build the tools because they are doing thing that have never been done before and making two games all at the same time. They are inventing technology as they go to do what they are doing.
Yep, the thing is that for a decade now we have been able to learn and follow that tech being made. Every success and hurdle described in great detail. Every week, of every month, of every year. So many things we knew about, and so many more things we didn't, got all placed there. Gone are the days of the "sandworms" where handcrafted setpiece were nessesarry. What made stuff like the opening scene stand out to me was just how... Well familiar it became. Because I have seen these ships, fought alongside them too. So much pooled potential that can finally be realized.
The sad thing is the Average Joe won't understand something like Server Meshing, and how it's such a holy grail of online gaming and how insanely complex it is. On the plus side, I don't doubt Star Engine itself is going to be worth a small fortune if CIG licences it out, people are obsessed with UE5 these days, but honestly, Star Engine is just so much more
@@rock2k14 I notice they have trademarked StarEngine. Trouble with selling it is nobody even wants to develop for CryEngine, it'll be a hard sell to convince people to use StarEngine with it's massive catalog of 1 game and nobody in the industry outside of CIG that ever used it. I think it's more likely CIG will take on other projects for publishers post Star Citizen... so like 5+ years. Unreal on the other hand is about 7 million developers deep and has the support to back it up. There's a lot of monetization options though, and probably a ton of legal hurdles too.
For those who dont know, Squadron 42 is the single player game that is set in the same universe as Star Citizen. SC is the Multiplayer game. They are separate purchases.
50bucks for the biggest mmo, and overall game ever made, and you find it crazy that they ask 30 more for a completly exclusive solo experience ? @@djtoxicdhg
@@djtoxicdhg The Star Citizen access is $45 for the cheapest package... and Squadron 42 is like $15 on top of that. Still cheaper than far less effort AAA games of today.
When he says Every single ship he means it. Those two capital ships you saw at the start of the video? Yapp, fully explorable with the one on the left being 480m and the other being 990m long on the right. For comparison the biggest aircraft carrier in our world is around 335m long and a standard Venator-class star destroyer from star wars is 1600m long. Just imagine exploring those two ships.
As a long time backer of Star Citizen and Squadron 42 this was funny to watch, although I sometimes wanted to scream on the screen if there were misconceptions or false guesses ^^ Some facts: - Squadron 42 is the spiritual succesor to the Wing Commander series fomr the 90, Chris Roberts (the Star Citizen guy) ...is actually the guy who made Wing Commander back in the day (and the intro scene from Lord of War with Nicholas Cage but thats another story). - Squadron 42 was the plan BEFORE Star Citizen. They just saw the interest in a new space game was so big they also wanted to make a multiplayer part (in the spirit of the Wing Commander: Privateer and later Freelancer games). With the planet tec they developed they split it up into two separate games already in about 2014, since then the development is parallel, with a focus on Squadron 42. - all in there was game engine, no pre-rendered scenes - you can land seamlessly without any loading screen in Star Citizens alpha for years now so thats really not a new feature for a Star Citizen backer ^^ (WARNING: if you play the alpha for about two weeks you get so used to it that other games then feel really really small...) - they already scripted Squadron 42 part 2 and part 3 - the pilot in the beginning which you hear bnut not see is no other than Henry Cavill, who saw the developement in around 2015-ishe and tasked his manager to reach out to Chris Roberts to play a role in the game. It worked out, he plays one pilot now in the game. - this is the first QUADRUPLE A game proving that the normal gaming industry with publishers is way behind what would be technically possible with games - the campaign will have around 40 hours of gameplay (around 28 chapters / levels). - I recommend to watch the Star Citizen official channel on youtrube and see the CitizenCon 2023 panel videos, especially the tech demo about StarEngine and server meshing. Then its clear why Squadron 42 and Star Citizen are lightyears advanced compared to current games. The star Citizen community is very welcoming, there is an official guide system where players guide you with your first steps in the universe and the current price for Squadron 42 is about 45 dollars. not too expensive I d say. Cant help it but to all the haters: its gonna be good, we told you so ^^
even better is some sources have said the game maybe be closer to 100 hours in total, with 40 hours being the quick end of playthroughs (ie skipping side content)
The Star Citizen tech in alpha now already allows you to land on planets directly. You can actually look through scopes and see the orbital space stations in real time and see other players quantum jump from space while standing on the planet/moon grounds. When I saw it for the 1st time in game it blew my mind. Also the sound of a ships doing flybys and cloud physics is pretty cool.
Whats the gameplay like though? All the prettier graphics in the world can only do so much... Is this game an fps, loot grinfest, ship combat, or just a hub world where you play a bunch of mini games like Roblox and VrChat? I feel that people are glazing on graphics as a way to cope with the fact that this game will never release
@@wugira76it’s more an rpg. You can be a miner, scavenger, pirate, cargo hauler and bounty hunter at the moment. You can go anywhere in the system at anytime and they are working on other solar systems as well. You can walk every inch of every planet and moon, except for the gas giant you have to fly that. Also like the guy above said too it’s alpha right now. The fps is ok but choppy at times right now but like asmon was saying in the video clearing up that kind of stuff usually comes towards the end of development.
its open freeform, do the tutorial learn the absolute basics and start picking up missions as you explore you find POI that have things to do also, there is mining and cargo hauling, piracy and criminal activities, a prison system if you fail in your criminal enterprises. the graphics are beautiful but even on a great pc can get choppy walking through some of the cities, i rarely experience crashes or 30k since the latest update, but server fps can be quite low occasionally resulting in lackluster ai behavior like tposing or oblivious hostiles on foot, i have not seen the same effect on enemy craft they still do an ok job of fighting back. as it stands currently in the PU i would justify the price tag of the starter ship package of 45$ you can definitely find that value and more in what is currently in the game. and the best experiences i have ever had in any game had nothing to do with any official missions ingame, i bought in game the 890 jump space yacht/luxery cruise liner which has zero purpose currently, my entire org dressed up in suits and we toured the system RPing the Elite industialist oligarchy and bestowing upon new commers of the game a free trip to any landmark or station they would like to see, we had a blast and made a ton of ingame acquaintances and many new members to the org. that being said i still tend to get burned out about 6months of playing until the next major patch as currently it has not achieved imo enough content to be a forever game @@wugira76
@@jerrymayne6095 also want to mention that pyro, the new system, is coming in the ptu at the end of this month and will be in the game before the end of the year
I was watching whole CitizenCon. Seeing people standing up for Chris and cheering him up, and him having tears in his eyes made me teary. People joking all the time and his dream is coming true. Squadron and StarCitizen are his dreams. It's so wholesome.
Yeah I got teary eyed too; glad he got the standing ovation because the industry has been giving him nothing but huge s--t the last decade calling the entire project a "scam".
It honestly feels like it is, and I've played Star Citizen for awhile. The PU has so many bugs and crashes all the time. You lose your inventory when you're playing, which if you're doing hauls, means a ton of money. If I'm mining I might lose my Prospector or it gets stuck in the middle of nowhere with Quant in it and explodes. Or my mining laser stops working randomly. Or the server hiccups and a quant rock explodes me and my vehicle all because I had the laser on when the server went funky. Or, the only way to test the new content is locked behind buying vehicles that can only be purchased with money, like salvaging. If I do bunker runs, my inventory can get bugged when looting and then I can't pick up anything or take anything out of my inventory. Don't get me wrong, the game LOOKS AMAZING. Flying feels nice, your ships have weight to them, especially in atmosphere. The gunplay is great. But the little things break the game, and it is server wide. It seems like they put a lot of effort into the game, and the beauty and scale of the game shows it, but the engine they're running on was never designed to be for an MMO, and they're too deep into it to start all over. They were forced to develop all this tech so they could increase their max server limit from 50 to 100 players. They are doing a lot to make the game feel great, but like everyone is saying, Squadron 42 took up 80% of their dev team. Star Citizen itself has basically been on hold until they finish Squadron 42, with minor adjustments for PU. And with the servers basically in the same state as when I started playing, I can't go back until I see that the servers are no longer 30king over and over, every hour or so. I've had too many times where I get on the PU, suit up, ship out, get to my destination for the server to 30k, and then log out, log in, suit up again at station, recover my ship, ship out, only for the server to 30k again, not even 30 minutes onto the new server. Sometimes it will be 4 hours before it happens, sometimes they've nailed it on a new patch and it doesn't happen at all for a few days. But the constant threat of, restart everything you have been doing with so much setup keeps me from coming back until they fix the server issues. Not to mention the lack of real content for the game other than "earn money to buy ships" with no other real features.
Incredible moment to see, considering that I've been backing since 2015 and played the entire WC and Privateer series back in the day. That is, I've seen him pursuing the dream for decades. I'm here for the support. O7
@@billywashere6965It was such a beautiful moment given all the shit people have given him over the years....the FUD, the false accusations, the DS brigade, Refundians, etc.
@spacep0d Yup, you could literally see it on his face like it was a wash of relief that he got to prove his worth and his naysayers wrong. It was like a giant burden of relief. It's not done yet or out yet, but it felt like a "Yeah, we proved them wrong and I'm glad you guys supported us through all of that FUD" moment.
The crazy thing is that they did full mocap for all the animations, the cutscenes, and the combat animations are from real soldiers. Squadron 42 is to establish lore, the world, and act as a sort of tutorial for the persistent universe. Also, to tell a cool story. If I had to bet on a release date, I'd say next year around oct-nov at the earliest. And to ppl saying it's a scam, you don't spend millions of dollars on, mark Hamill, Gary Oldman, and Jillian Anderson for a scam. 1 why spend that money, and 2 they wouldn't attach their names to something they think might be a scam.
The people saying it's a scam simply don't know what they're talking about. Who tf would spend 10+ years making a game and have builds of it publicly available to play for over half a decade just to scam people?
Yeah, the polishing phase typically takes 1-2 years. Although I don't think the game will be in good enough shape to stop being in alpha. I think the game will take 3-4 years to be at that stage.
"And to ppl saying it's a scam, you don't spend millions of dollars on, mark Hamill, Gary Oldman, and Jillian Anderson for a scam" Remember all those crypto endorsed by celebrity scam shit lol.
When I first tried out Star Citizen a year ago I was like “oh, okay, I understand how this could take 10+ years to develop”. Star Citizen isn’t just your every video game, these guys have been building tech that is going to redefine what a video game can even be, even in its janky alpha state it’s totally brain bending.
@@enzds They simply count other people's money, envy the developers' profits, they are incensed by the development deadlines and, out of bilious envy, they want their belief in the failure of the project to be confirmed.
I think it's the greatest thing when people praise something for being "clean and not overdesigned" when in reality is so overdesigned to where pretty much every mechanism and ship in the game is realistic and functional. Goes to show how things that are well thought out and executed "just look right" to people who don't really care about design. Worked with some people who were on this project (artside) before and they always had the best things to say about the approach to art in general as well as the attention to detail (which is a very very rare in this industry). Definitely not a game for me, but I'm really happy to see stuff like this.
Reality is overdesigned for people that look, and simplistic for those that don't. That's the great part. If you don't care, you notice little things that are nice, and if you do care, you notice even littler things that are nice.
After watching morphologists "an architect reviews" series on star citizen it really made me appreciate that! Like having piping and ducts *actually* feel like they have been sensibly placed in relation to people using the space, and they don't awkwardly clip into nowhere.
20:30 Squadron 42 has always been the actual "game" insofar as the whole Star Citizen project. Star Citizen has always been a separate MMO using the tools and such that are being created for Squadron 42. Both games use the same assets, graphics engine, and mechanics. The end result is Star Citizen is designed to be the open world of the same world as Sq42. Currently anything finished in Sq42 gets ported over to Star Citizen directly.
@@escapetarkov3838yes, it was. The OG kickstarter page is still there, and its still on said page. people just don't read, and CIG did a shite job of explaining the difference on said page so it's easily missinterpreted
Makes me happy that a lot of people now finally see why backers believed in this project for all those years. Squadron 42 and Star Citizen have the potential to be groundbreaking experiences.
Yeah honestly, cant people let themselves get excited. Im new to it, but idc if the game isnt coming soon. What they just showed rivaled cinema, HOLLYWOOD BUDGET, I love film form and if they can craft a short film trailer this incredible, I cannot comprehend the details they must be putting in the world
Ikr, i've bought a pledge with the aurora 11 years ago, been trying it out on and off over the years, from what ive seen over the years when it comes out it's going to live up to the hype I just hope i'm alive by the time it does 😅 if not well my nephews can enjoy it
I've been so critical of CIG and Star Citizen. It's so good to see something maybe worth the $600 million they've crowdfunded. I'm very hopeful they pull it off.
Ya I hope squad 42 is good. I'm glad they broke off from the star citizen team. Sometimes they update something but mostly ita a new costly spaceship every few months for a decade
And they are not instanced. You really exist physically inside the ship. Which is important for the physical damage model that allows projectiles to penetrate ships and damage parts inside. As well as allow boarding FPS gameplay.
They want to treat every capital ship basically as a server as far as I can remember. That's how much in terms of resources capships need. It's insane.
Thank you for doing a reaction video for this game. People will hate the game regardless of what is shown, but seeing your genuine reaction was incredible. Keep up the great videos; if you pick up the game when it releases or try Star Citizen, I know the community would love to show you around. The game is fun, even with the bugs (talking about Star Citizen).
I don't think people hate Squadron 42, I think they hate the accessible PU alpha/demo thing that is all people can touch and play as of now after a decade. Squadron 42 has always been cool.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator They haven't even played Star Citizen most likely. There is a reason the game have had a steady player base since 2013 and so dedicated. The tech that is already in Star Citizen is breathtaking and what is to come is definetely gonna leave a mark in gaming history. Look up StarEngine Trailer.
Well not everyone feels that way about SQ42. There are a number of people that hate SQ42 because they feel it takes time and energy away from the PU. You can't make everyone happy. I for one look forward to both.@@CyberneticArgumentCreator
I honestly hope this succeeds. What these guys are doing with this and Star Citizen isn't just making a game. They are building the tech needed for that level of scope and that takes time. Unfortunately, gamers aren't know for their patience. Is any of them going to be good? We'll see when the product is released. I didn't put any money into it, but if it turns out to be good, I will.
@@germanmosca this is exactly what i thought. i care more about the tech working as intented when SQ42 drops more than the story being compelling itself. Cause if the tech works, that means SC and gaming in general can achieve so much more.
Mark Hamill: "The advantage here was Chris Roberts. I had such a good time working with him and not only he's a wizard of all things involving games, but he's a great director and a great friend. And really when he asked me, I didn't even have to read the script, I just jumped out. I really wanted to work with him again." - RUclips video: Mark Hamill on Star Citizen, Wing Commander and Star Wars. Channel: PC GAMER PC Gamer talks to Mark Hamill about his work on Star Citizen's 'Squadron 42' module, his career, fandom and more. (2017)
Just want to mention that after that at CitizenCon when video ended, Chris Roberts got a standing ovation of a couple of minutes before he asked everyone to stop because he was about to cry. Eleven years of development and decades of vision are finally coming close to fruition. I was always cautiously optimistic of Star Citizen and Squadron 42, but now the hype train is screaming down the tracks.
I rarely hear anyone talking about Star citizen apart from people talking about how much they made off on a game that isn't even remotely close to release 10 years later and people calling it an outright scam so I'm not sure exactly what "hype train" you are referring to 😂
@@bagelbomb1887just let people have their fun man. This trailer they released shows the vast amount of work they’ve put into this. The engine that they’ve made is so incredibly complex, if they pull it off, will be revolutionary in the gaming industry.
@@ShmoozeEvolution While I hope it succeeds, I feel like a clock is ticking. Even the diehards seem to be getting ruffled at how long things are taking. Many of them were expected the SQ42 campaign to release about a year out from this presentation. Well, here we are a year later and we were just told the release is in 2026. And what are the chances even THAT is true, with CIG's history of being late?
What people tend to forget is that, CIG did not start out with a 1000+ people and $500mil+, like many other titles out there, which has taken the same time or even longer and is far from the same scale and scope that SC/SQ42 is going for. Building up a new studio, new tech, innovating on old and creating new tech, this takes time to do.
Right that bothers me so much it's so annoying. They started with 12 dudes in Chris's basement. Bethesda has been using the same engine on all their games since 1999 and it still took them 10 years to make starfield.
@JimJamTalks because people are dumb and major news isn't allowed to post positive articles on SC so all the masses have seen over the years are hit pieces. So they don't care to learn about it
We who have played for years in the Alpha stages with all it's bugs are just now starting to reap the rewards of Star Citizen and S42. CGI is on the cusp of something really big. If you haven't tried it, I highly suggest it. They have "Free fly's" at different times of certain months. It costs nothing to try for 2 weeks or so and gives you 10-12 different ships to try.
It's enjoyable if you know the bugs to avoid. It's still very alpha and lot of these features are not yet in the available game. Just a warning for those who want to try it out
If you haven't tried it, I highly suggest it. Sorry, I dont pay $98.00 AUD for a starter pack for an unreleased game that has been in alpha ten years and has no release date, no beta date and what seems to be a never ending cash shop. $100 AUD is what you would pay for Nier, a fully released game or another fully released AAA title by an established software developer. Squadron 42 has been yanked from sale..pending a price increase. WIth no release date. AGAIN. Call me when the full game gets actually released. Not an alpha.
@@Sonnabend00 "If you haven't tried it, I highly suggest it." they then literally said there are "free fly's" where the game is FREE to try for a while. you dont have to pay to try it.
Yall dont know how immersive this game actually is... I bought Star Citizen yesterday and was SHOCKED when i entered my Ship, just to see that you can even replace your modules (Shields, Battery, etc.) by hand AND actually press the switches on your cockpit for the functions like "Power, Weapons, Shields, etc etc ON/OFF" You literally work your ship. Impressive. You can even log-out in deep space by going to your Bed and sleep. This game will be the next biggest thing i bet.
Chances are there will be at least a few hundred next biggest things before this is ready for actual release with content that will keep you engaged for more than a short while. What's there is cool and all, but it would be nice if they could start building a fleshed out game around it.
I understand what you mean. After 2 weeks almost nonstop grinding the game i noticed that you must keep yourself engaged yourself atm... The game wont "drive you into one direction".. No story, no goals, just contracts.. and the factions arent that great yet. But it keeps you entertained if you love space @@FM-ge3nf
At the beginning of the video, the biggest ships in the fleet are the RSI Bengals, but second after them are the Aegis Javelin spaceships, where Gillian Anderson is also talking. In the Star Citizen world, Invictus Launch Week is held every May. It is a tribute to the UEE Navy. It's a time when the Army's destroyer ships show up at certain space stations. In the docking area of the space station you can enter these ships, where officers will greet you and show you around the inside of the ships, but of course you can't get to everything. :)
It actually looks like there is only one Bengal carrier in that fleet. If you look closely, you can see that there are similarly designed, but smaller, ships that have massive battleship style turrets on their upper hulls. Probably an unannounced cruiser design.
@@randlebrowne2048 The Bengal is the 'Aircraft Carrier' representation of a Carrier Strike Group like the US Navy has, its surrounded by all the other ships (destroyers/missile boats/submarines and so on), its 990m long, you can fly with and around it during the events in SC but won't be able to enter it outside of Sq42 So there are several Bengals overall, I think there are 3 known of lorewise, not many of them, the rest of the ships are Idris / Javelin capital ships which will be available in SC after SQ42 launches, you can already fight them or clip through them to steal the NPC ships right now, but they have no real interior yet there, unless you go to the event which lets you tour the inside of one partially The campaign ship you will play on is supposed to be an Idris but you will likely visit the rest of them (as seen in this trailer, where the character is on the Javelin, the bigger one)
@@randlebrowne2048 The Bengals(there seem to be 3 or 4) are escorted by Javelin destroyers, Idris frigates as well as Hammerhead corvettes and some smaller Retaliator bombers/gunships
@@C4799 Take a closer look at the ones in the background. They have a similar bow shape; but, their engine nacelles are a different shape/configuration. The Bridge superstructure is also a bit different. Most importantly, there are a pair of large, battleship style, turrets between the bow and the bridge (something missing from the Bengal in the foreground). The foreground ship has a bunch of much smaller point defense turrets instead of the two big ones on the background ships. The background ships also, while have a similar (but not the same) design, seem to be smaller (somewhere between the size of the Javelin destroyer and the Bengal in the foreground). Between the obvious large ship-to-ship turrets, and the in-between size, I'm assuming that the background ships are an unannounced cruiser design.
Also as a note for the top comment there, your custom character is used in the single player campaign, finishing it leads DIRECTLY into star citizen the mmo, it plays a main part of the story and getting your citizenship hence the name “Star Citizen”
@@Joyapp Yeah, in this universe the United Empire of Earth (UEE) has a sort of "Service Guarantees Citizenship" thing going on. Citizenship isn't necessary; but, it's supposed to come with some perks in-game.
nice to see Asmon coming around to giving Squadron 42 a shot. i wonder if he will extend that to Star Citizen as well. the Squadron 42 showcase was really amazing and quite surprising in it's updated quality and execution. it is definitely looking promising.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 very nice, i know that he did not like it and just memed on it a lot for it's funding model and he even turned down NMPLol who was going to show him around the alpha, but it is good to see him coming around. i just don't think he should play-test it, play-testing requires a lot of patience and the right attitude to deal with bugs, instability and incomplete aspects of a game. so just waiting until they are in a much more stable state or full release is what i would recommend he do.
@@Odeezee Yeah he should wait awhile to play especially if you don’t have the patience and don’t want to test and report bugs. When you read many of these threads on Star Citizen you can tell who read the TOS and understand it’s a game under development from the ones that did not read anything.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 haha, this is so f-ing true. people really do not like reading online, especially disclaimers. pity, coz they could avoid a lot of frustration if they at least read the ones for Star Citizen telling you to expect bugs, instability and incomplete aspects of the game. /sigh
The reason they're finishing this instead of Star Citizen, or well, the online Public Universe (PU) is because Squadron 42 was always the original promised game, the PU is the online later version. The PU has for a long time been a way to help fund it. Also want to mention that if you want to understand Star Citizen and it's fanbase it's easier to look at it in the context of games like DCS and the wider flight-sim space. This is a community fully willing to help fund insane games even though they know that their community is overall quite niche. It's even common for people to spend many thousands on building their sim setup, some even going so far as to build entire rooms to look like the cockpit of ships they like. As a member of the community I'll tell you that that's why you're never gonna convince them it's a scam because at the end of the day it's a community that enjoy the game that's already there. Because at the core of the game the flight mechanics just feel amazing. And you'd be surprised how far having a good community to play with that organizes events and keeps things fresh can go.
Asmongold you wanted to see seemless space to planet and back then check out the Star Citizen StarEngine demo. and on a side note Squadron 42 is gonna be how they introduce the player to the lore of Star Citizen so both Squadron 42 and Star Citizen were always meant to compliment each other.
Yes, you can fly from the planets surface, to space, to another planet or moon, fly down to the surface there, enter a bunker, shoot some dudes, fly back to a space station for lunch, and a berveage, lol. All without a loading screen. The only loading screens you ever get are, when you first load into the game, when you die, and when you go to/get out of prison. That's it!
As a longtime backer and SC player. Sq42 is the single player story game. It’s set in same universe as SC just SC is a open world MMO. Yes there are no load screens in flight in SC or anywhere in game. SQ42 should be mostly same except of course being story based there will be cutscenes. Most features in SQ42 are in SC. In fact they test somethings in SQ42 first like master modes. SC is just obviously more massive more ships etc. Also if you are already SC pledged when getting SQ42 its just a $15 add on. There are also huge updates that were covered at the con this weekend which are also going into SC. As far as SC it’s a game that won’t technically be finished. Yes there are goals but it will continually be updated and features added. Chris has said this from the start. As far as frames optimization is last but even in SC over the years you can feel improvement. Also I know SC and SQ42 gets heat because of funding and time. But this is a crowdfund project where they are extremely open with us. A lot of times they will publicly say things that are just concepts and ideas so of course it takes time and you can see delays. Some of it may even get scrapped. People fail to see many games go through many years of development but you only know of them last as most of it is kept under wraps unlike SC and SQ42. Also a lot of funding has gone to expanding the studio etc. they basically have created their own engine. On their site they have funding breakdowns. Basically here you are seeing everything that happens in game dev vs other games most of it is out of public view. I know it’s a lot but I suggest ppl check out the whole con. A lot of great info there and great things coming. Including server meshing. They finally have a working test of it and the plan will be SC will introduce this and instead of 100ish players per server how it is now all players will see each other and play together through meshing. They will be the first to introduce this in gaming at this scale. Also at the end right after this video finished (not seen here) when Chris Roberts got emotional I think you can see how much he cares and wants to deliver.
Squadron 42 hasn't been in the store for a while now. Expect it to be $60 or $70 when they make it available again, for those who haven't already purchased it.
@@GUNNER67akaKelt maybe / maybe not. We will see . Last it was listed was $15 add-on and $45 standalone. Nothing has been said of that changing yet from what I know.
Just for some context, Bethesda started work on Starfield the same time that CIG started work on Star Citizen and Squadron 42. Now Star Citizen is a long way from being released, but it is also an open world multiplayer sandbox with no in game loading screens. Squadron 42 has not been in the same open development as Star Citizen so we don’t know the exact state of the game or how long it will be before release. That being said what was shown was actual gameplay and some cut scenes all done inside the game engine.
@@Hhhh22222-w No it is SQ42 which plays on a single PC, SC is an mmo that has bad hitching due to the servers always being pushed to the max with entities that is why server meshing which they just demonstrated Saturday is so important to SC.
@@Hhhh22222-w That'll get cleaned up over time, it already has gotten better when i started playing getting 20 fps was rare now I can get 70+ fps especially if its on a low populated server. (And I only have a gtx 1080 so no where near top of the line)
It would have been so fun to have someone with Asmon to answer the questions he had, because most of the stuff is already known and could have been answered.
@@1183newman Even the StarEnine vid is a little dated. They showed even better stuff in some of the other shorter vids. Like the water and Maelstrom demos are ALREADY better than what they show in the StarEngine vid.
@@warheartwarheart5389 Yes. I didn't say they weren't. Reread. I said they were updated AFTER the video was made. In the StarEngine vid when the Gladius crashed in the structure, you didn't see any splashes from the debris hitting the water. Later, in the Maelstrom demo, there were splashes from the debris.
Y'all know, this game reminds me of the good old days, when every triple A titles actually had this level of mind blowing details... Nowadays triple A standard sounds more like a joke, vary same idea apply to movie industries and Japanese anime production. This is the reason why I stick to the development of CIG games, and I truely wish this to become the standard for future big titles.
@@nepenthy9804 yeah some studios still make good games like rockstar, naughty dogs, CDPR, nintendo or from software they know they will sell well even if they take time to develop and don't release a game for 10 years also bethesda in a way but even with 10 years their games are meh
@@Tenkin42 games like cyberpunk2077, last of us 2 are nice, but they came out with some flaws, making you wonder what if there could be a game that launches with perfection
Watching that actually made me feel passionate about gaming again, like how I was when I was a little kid, reminded me of when I used to want to make games. The quality of the game looks like it's there. It really does look like the most next gen game that I've seen in a long time. My hope is that it feels how it looks.
In my opinion the video on Star Citizen's channel looks much better than the video on IGN. I don't know if I'm tripping balls, but that's how it seemed to me.
@@Demozo_ didn't watch the IGN version but the SC one in 4k is peak gaming experience, can't wait to have it on my PC (for the updated price because I foolishly figured I'd have time before they entered polish)
I had some experience with Motion Capture and gotta say this game has got some seriously fluid and cool character animations, movement and fight choreography - something that wasn't so obvious for the shooters in the past. Remids me of iconic Unreal Tournament 3. Ps. You almost saw me as Leon in these new Resident Evil games :)
@@dekulruno iirc, they started with Imaginarium for all the S42 story mocap, and later built their own studio to do clean up and expand the library. Both make sense since Serkis' place is top tier cutting edge, but must also be booked non-stop with all the Hollywood movies hes involved in. Kind of like how Jackie Chan has his own stunt team. With the SC guys, not having to wait 3 months for a booking to do like a half days work must had been worth the investment.
Wait until he finds out there really are no load screens and you can indeed fly from space to a planet and land seamlessly with no cutscenes. I wish he would have watched the tech demo too.
@@GhullieUsernot really, the quantum travel can get you from space to around 10ks from the ground in a few seconds but you can fly in manually if you want
@GhullieUser it's a space game mate, there's a LOT of SPACE between planets. I for one love the size of the Stanton system at the moment. Can't wait till Pyros gets released.
we will see. what will be in the final released game, and what will be left to the tech demos and videos. starfield and cyberpunk2077 promised a lot beforehand. pretty much nothing was implemented what was hyped beforehand. i already don't like how there wasn't different talking alien species - lack of ambition? just a space shooter?
Im so excited for this to come out. It looks freaking incredible! Plus, it has an outstanding roster of talented actors and actresses with Gary Oldman, Mark Hamill, John Ryhs-Davies, Henry Cavill, Gillian Anderson, Mark Strong, Sandi Roberts and Liam Cunningham among many others! You dont assemble a cast like that for a scam. I really think this is going to be something truly special and i hope it is!
Squadron 42 is the intro into Star Citizen. After completing the campaign, you transition into the MMO of Star Citizen. Thats the intent. So now that the features needed are complete, they can give us the SP experience while they finish the MMO.
Just to clarify, you don’t need to have played SQ42 to jump into SC. But the campaign from SQ42 is part of your SC Characters backstory. And will have some perks from it as well.
@@Getz2oo3 The UEE (United Empire of Earth) has a "Service Guarantees Citizenship" governmental model. Being a citizen (earned through service in the SQ42 campaign) is supposed to grant some in-game perks in Star Citizen; but, it is not necessary to be a citizen for most things. It'll mostly just be a faction perk boost, along with access to rewards ported over from achievements in the Squadron 42 campaign.
@@LuisPerez-5$600 million funded. They haven't spent every dollar of it as it comes in. Clearly they have some capital if they're able to build studios and acquire companies.
From what I understand squadron 42 has been in development along side the multiplayer universe. Which is also why the multiplayer portion has been slower to develop as it’s not priority. Hopefully once squadron 42 is polished and complete then that team will move over to the multiplayer side and maybe we will see the development take off.
They bounced back and forth until recently where they decided to do the single player first. This awesome citizenCon was them showing all the features they had done for squadron. They are now switching over to delivering them to Star Citizen. Polish is still needed for squadron but I expect them to start switching real soon. Base building development announced as starting q1 2024, and that's no small task.
80% of the team was working on SQ42 all this time so most of what SC was getting were hand-me-downs. Now that it's in polish phase, most of those people can move to working on SC.
Exactly, it wouldn't make sense for them to try and add assets/gameplay to the multiplayer universe before the single player game as a matter of simplicity and proving how it should look/work. I also think SQ42 is meant as a advertisement and measuring stick for what their in-house technologies like the mocap and Star Engine can do so they can start taking on outside projects
For anyone that doesn't know. Squadron 42 was always part of the plan. It was meant to be the "introduction to the PU (persistent universe) that is Star Citizen", such that when the game ends you enter the PU. I assume this is still the case. It's also likely that the technology and assets that they are making for SQ42 will appear in SC; so, it's not one or the other.
The team deserve this win. I know a few of them and they say that it's the first studio they've ever been in where everyone has a passion for the project. I'm sure they'll pull it off.
I follow this project since 2011. Passion and Love are the first two words, that come into my mind remembering all the weekly developer vlogs and tech shows from all these years.
@@tobytoxd CR is after this we a good guy for me. Sure we all can tell bad things about the company in itself but scince I follow the project in 2019 I hadnt had the feeling of scam at all and started backing at patch 3.16 and at 3.17 I waited for 3.18 :D I want it to succeed and the devs working their alhave fun I love it.
@@const2499Ah, great to hear! I just posted a quote on Roberts and a hint to an interview with Mark Hamill above. Look what a great guy like him has to say about CR :) Mark Hamill: "The advantage here was Chris Roberts. I had such a good time working with him and not only he's a wizard of all things involving games, but he's a great director and a great friend. And really when he asked me, I didn't even have to read the script, I just jumped out. I really wanted to work with him again." - RUclips video: Mark Hamill on Star Citizen, Wing Commander and Star Wars. Channel: PC GAMER PC Gamer talks to Mark Hamill about his work on Star Citizen's 'Squadron 42' module, his career, fandom and more. (2017) Having played Wing Commander, Privateer, Strike Commander and Freelancer which all blew me away like nothing else at that time in terms of immersion, for me personally Roberts is the greatest creative of space flight simulation games.
@@const2499 backed at 3.16 as well. Those were the golden days. Getting the org together to try and either hold Jumptown or take it from whoever it was.. My god. Just absolutely perfect gaming experience, despite the bugs.
After supporting Star Citizen for years, I'm glad that things are finally starting to pay off! Excited to see it come back to the mainstream through Squadron 42!
I wouldnt call a popular streamer reacting to a trailer a "comeback to the mainstream". Nevermind the fact that we still dont have any garantees that the game is even being developed anymore
one can hope after 10+ years . Hope it is not another "star field". I backed the game because of of SQ42, not the Virtual world of Star Citizen. At least I'll be happy CIG can present a near perfect single player experience. Probably take another 2-3 years of polish and optimization. Star Field feels like 2 gen behind just from graphics and mocap alone. Still probably 100+ GB installation with this level of graphics
Bro...wait until the game ACTUALLY releases - CIG has done ***nothing*** to earn a picogram of trust from the gaming community - ESPECIALLY their backers...
@@wugira76 the citizencon event this year says otherwise as this is literally new footage from this year also go watch the Star Engine demo as it show cases all the new stuff they have been working on, they have said that most of the features shown that are NOT ingame yet will be coming to the PU in the next 12 months more or less.
As there were speculations about it: "Squadron 42" is the Single-Player-Campaign of Star Citizen and they both share the same "technologies" and probably most vehicles. When it was first announced, you bought the Campaign with the access to Star Citizen - they later decoupled it. It was always very clear that both would be developed alongside each other, most ressources went into Squadron 42, after the tech and Infrastructure (Company) had been/is being developed. You could see Star Citizen as the Multiplayer part of Squadron 42.
Yes, and hopefully them pouring most resources in S42 doesn't come back to bite them. Seems like the campaign will be great, but if they never figure out server meshing or aren't able to produce enough satisfying gameplay for the PU I think the majority of their patrons will not be thrilled. That's the problem with putting so much emphasis on selling ships when they turn around and mostly use that money for a mode where they won't be available..
@@Achilles374 Thats a misdirect. Consider the following..... if the MMO side has limited servers, whats the point of putting all the resources toward that? Imagine having a massive star system with thousands of POIs..... and the server still only runs at 10 ticks with 50 players logged in to share all that space. Get the single player game out the door so people stop bitching about it, while waiting on server improvements to run stuff at passable performance. Then when the servers work better, go churn out a bunch of content for it without it dying constantly. And at this point, its not a question of "if" they get the servers working. Its only a question of how its gonna take them. They've already done the widely proclaimed "literally impossible" three times now..... so I stopped bothering to question the "ifs" involved. My bigger question now is "why can't a "competent studio" do this, and do it faster?" when 5 of the most popular multiplayer games could all benefit from the same kind of modular loadshare system a niche sandbox game is doing.
@@Achilles374 thing about the PU is its focused towards a player driven experience, if its a content focused and hand held experience like virtually every other game = gets old fast, like any MMO, people want the next expansion, content release with new raids, dungeons, bosses and drops etc... which they grind for months, because what else is there to do? were gambling addiction is the primary reason players remain committed despite your average MMO content wise remains very much in alpha state of development when you think about it, just bug free as what u can do in your typical MMO is limited.... the PU isnt supposed to played this way, or so limited in what you can do or restricted by content as your only activity = the idea is to yes provide you content to do, but your core experience and what you do, what ultimately happens to make it fun will often involve random and player driven experiences / interactions and nock on effects not directly aimed at you, using the tools provided and content as catalyst to triggering many of these experiences... as already is the case when you drop into the PU and why many drop in, despite the lack of available content / features and despite the lag / bugs when it does work = its a wonderful experience despite again the lack of content / features... and the fact you can have so much fun, with so little there to work with, it not hard to see why folks become optimistic for the future, as every new feature and new tool to increase what players can do as the choose... expands the possibilities and possible fun to be had, absent the dependency to more traditional content and its grind to extend its shelf life, with rewards to making what otherwise is a brain dead experience, worth doing... again not what the PU is intended emulate. also... most the assets/tech for sq42 are designed for the PU (same engine, just SP mode vs MMO mode, shared assets, AI etc etc), this includes most the core ships, so like the sequence showing the 2nd fleet = all ships intended to be in the PU and player flyable, some of which already are which u can fly like the hammerhead, were others may be exterior implemented and AI piloted for special events etc, but wont be player piloted and interior implemented until after sq42 releases like the idris, which will be player flyable when sq42 drops alongside other ships that are rdy for PU release, but wont release until sq42 drops, alongside allot of other stuff likewise so sq42 will be the first wow moment players have when seeing and experiencing it, before it migrates to the PU for the MMO experience. so essentially 90% of the $$$ and time put into sq42 = PU development as well, the main diference is the PU needs the server meshing and backbone fully implemented to support the MMO aspect, which is not required for a SP experience. its no diferent then 1 game releasing with a SP and MP mode, but instead of releasing the 1 game with the SP and MP at the same time, they separated them, so backers could access the developmental build for the MMO side of things to see progress was being made = PU, while the core teams focused on the SP aspect as a standalone polished AAA release and could keep key aspects under wraps as to not spoil the experience for release, but were other things can be droped into the PU when rdy for implementation for MMO side of things or testing related, were things like the idris will be flyable in the PU after sq42 drops for example... food for thought.
@@Achilles374 They have server meshing functional and pending implementation in Star citizen this year. The next patch adds the final piece for it to work and have demoed it live
If this is a scam, it is the worst scam in history because the amount of work, stress, blood, sweat and tears they put into this scam dwarfs most non-scam human endeavours.
They didn't show just SOME gameplay, most of it was gameplay. Like the cutscene where the camera is moving through the cockpit towards the dead pilot was gameplay. You can even see "F to Interact" pop up on the Pilot's body that's just how smoothe 0G movement was.
Those who don't understand the polishing phase is the 3rd to last step sometimes 2nd to last step before launch this is usually done in tangent with optimization and so on, however the first year is often heavily focused on correcting areas that are not up to par with the standard set as we saw with the knife in the neck scene in the single player campaign among some other areas that were lacking and that is usually the focus to bring different areas up to par. As each section finishes that area they move into optimization and that I will be honest I do not expect many machines to run as it's always been designed for the bleeding edge in technology. Some mid-high end systems will probably be able to play on lower settings but don't count mid and low ends systems being able to do much if at all. As asmongold mentioned optimization usually happens within the last year of development and around that time a launch date is given as well. They are in the end of the cycle of the game and not giving a set date is a good idea. Often companies will spend a one or two years on the polishing phase which bleeds into the optimization phase and technically launch phase near the end of that period. It is likely that we will receive a launch date near the end of next year as most the devs started polishing months ago when it was rumored for it to be feature complete. It is even possible that we may receive one earlier closer to the middle but I do think around October that would be the case and expect a launch in 2025, my guess would be near the end of 2025 however they can always move it forward. If something goes wrong then I would suspect a 2026 release date instead that. If somehow everything goes perfectly in some god tier manner you could expect a launch end of 2024 but I find it quite unlikely as that's barley enough time to polish and optimize and considering the scale and I believe if i remember it being open or semi open world then it needs that time to do a proper set of pass overs with QA. They know they cannot fuck this up at all and I will suspect launch to be rough regardless it's very difficult to never have something happen for launch no matter the title something usually happens or shortly after launch. Either way this is massive to see considering how long its been in development being not too far behind most triple A development studios the average game takes 7-8 years from concept to finish and sequel take 3-5 years depending on scale and so on. This also means since they are near the end that more resources will be poured into Star Citizen which is the multiplayer persistent universe that yes has been shown more love within the last year and by next year will receive a ton more love and progress something many have been waiting for and I do not blame them. Thing is most of the work and setbacks were strictly because of the game engine. Cry Engine has a plethora of issues but in 2012 there wasn't anything better and so came the long overhauling process of the entire engine something amazon was working on for many years and released their lumberyard engine in 2016 which basically restarted the project they are now taking the amazon lumberyard engine and modifying it further and especially the backend for netcode and so on being a complete catastrophe among other things add on feature creep because the backers wanted them to go wild with development and well we are here today. I honestly give them props and props for working on a technology that has mainly been theorized and never tried, something that recently in 2017 one other company attempted and so far has not been very successful with and so even seeing the start of it functioning is impressive along with many other software's and things that previously didn't really exist or didn't exist to such a scale. People really don't understand the complexity of something in this scale, chris roberts has been a very ambitious man even back in wing commanders days under Microsoft and it's been something that has been a long time coming and seeing him being closer to reaching his goal is definitely something the man was very emotional on stage at the very end and even cried when he first saw server meshing function. I don't think people realize how big of a success that is alone to accomplish and props to Spatial OS for being another pioneer of that technology even if they haven't been successful yet, because it is nothing something easy nor cheap to accomplish and if it moves from static to dynamic in some manner it would absolutely be a massive breakthrough for MMOs across the globe and not just for games but for many other unrelated professions.
Right, when some people hear "polishing phase" they think it is like polishing your car. So not much work left. But the truth is the polishing phase needs a lot of work and goes much deeper. If some part of the game is no fun or not enough fun, a whole level could be changed.
@@Hoto74 yea polishing in this context is more getting the pain mixxed right then slowly painting then let layer dry then add the protective coating and then polish buffing
My understanding is the game is developed (for the most part) in SQ42 and when a feature is proven there, It will be shifted over to SC. There are a bunch of features about to move over to SC.
Right, the last years SQ42 had the priority in development, so Content where developed for SQ42 first and then they come over to SC. That's why SC didn't show so much progress, even when in the studios internally much more is already ready for SC. And also many features and content depending on the server meshing technology. Before that is not ready enough they can't build it into SC. Server meshing is a so important technology for SC and if it works it has the potential to change MMOs and Online Worlds for ever.
Squadron 42 has been part of the design from the beginning, I still have my Squadron 42 shirt from the kickstarter 10 years ago. At this point if I get any complete game I'll be happy.
I was doing a watch party of the citizencon with my org. I swear we were like kids for the two days it lasted. There not even a bit of filler content and it was all quite advanced in development, recorded in-engine. Then, the SQ42 announcement was just the icing on the cake.
Chris Roberts already planned ahead, this is precisly WHY, Star Citizen is such a big deal. Also, i belive that BECAUSE of Star Citizen, the situation of Sq42 is even more akin to Halo 2 situation, when the game came out folks already knew what expect from the game in terms of gameplay, the only question now are technical aspects and the story in the game.
Really good to see people have an honest reaction to this, awesome going from the social outcast of believing in this game passionately over the years and it's starting to pay off. Also to note, Squadron 42 is their main game they've been planning since the start. Star Citizen is everything and more that the backers wanted. A lot of the ship packages came with the Squadron 42 and Star Citizen license, so if you were an og backer you got to look forward to Squadron 42 all these years lol
In the past year SC development has sped up so much its scary. As a software dev myself, im glad to see them finally getting it together because a project such as this in game dev I can imagine has been hell.
It's worth hopping in on a free fly weekend. The game is huge and needs powerful hardware but you can get a feel for the game free of charge once every couple of months just find a buddy or a subscriber that'll let you fly their ships around for an hour or two...(also the learning curb is kinda stupid)
I dont recommend anyone testing star citizen except you are prepared for an extremly unfinished game and also want to test that unfinished game. If you go in casually you will hate it.
Star citizen game experience is not good enough to recommend anyone trying it with the intent of saying it highlights what squadron 42 will be. They are two very different games.
@@only1kleimthey are different games, but also very similar. Set in the same universe, sharing parts of the map, sharing ships, flight mechanics, etc. So while yes they are different genres they are also still similar enough to understand the tech. It would answer his loading screen question at least :p and I don't think it's worth streaming.
Fair, but honestly enough is there that you get a feel for the day to day of what is going to be an MMO. If you discount the bugs and still don't like the game play loop on a small scale (aka how looooong it takes to do most anything.) Then you probably won't like it once the scale of some of these tasks is exponentially more involved.
Redemption? Hes already done so much for mmo tech, people are just impatience, you cant create an entirely exporable universe in under a decade, people need to realise that.
@@alfiedefreitas6860 if there is one thing that SC taught me, it is patience - i used to sit 8h ingame, waiting for people to pirate near ArcL1 ( mining locations ingame) and just do study stuff while waiting
Also, yes, Squadron 42 was always going to take precedence over Star Citizen and they stated from the beginning that Squadron 42's success would determine Star Citizen's ultimate success.
Both tech demos are already funded. CIG just wants more money and all those "optimizations" are just a marketing scheme for you, the fans to throw them even more money.
That's due to UK law. They used to sell the game, but right now unless you have a release date you can't sell it. So whenever CR decides to give a release date, the game will be up to buy again.@@killer205568
@@killer205568 they did pull of the pre order for SQ42, probably because of the new laws that came this year, but the game was still with the old price (from 10 years), now its gonna be full new AAA price for sure
To anyone who has not experienced Star Citizen, let me paint you a picture. You launch into the game, get out of the bed you logged out of(yes you can log out in any bed basically) you walk, run or use local forms of transport to get to your ship, if you did not log in at your ship already. You get in your seat, pilot out of the planets/star's atmosphere, meanwhile you pick your destination, you quantum jump to your destination, which can be millions of miles away. You land and go get a beer at the local bar. At no point in time do you experience a loading screen. And yes it has rovers, come on, it's nowhere near as jank as Starfield.
Been a Star Citizen Backer since 2013/2014. There's been many ups and many, many, MANY downs. This made me so happy! If they release in the next year or two I'll be the happiest nerd ever!
same man, i dont think when we backed we knew everything had to be done from scratch, but i am glad they did and stuck to it, and it is finally showing that all the effort and tech put into sq42 was really meant for both sc and sq42. i feel good about my backing now more than ever. just saddens me to see the hate that some have towards it, i mean if it was a scam its a lousy one with all the hired devs and studios forming, education grants and internships.
I watched the kickstarter launch party in 2012 with all the guys sitting around a table. Chris, Sandi (at the time we didnt know she was his wife ), Wingman and a f ew more including LAMP! It was a great night!
I think some portion of the negative comments saying it's a scam are probably just joking at this point. Saying scamcitizen, or whatever, has kind of become a meme. But at the end of the day it does not matter, and it won't matter once this comes out. All that will matter then is, is it a good game?.. and the riggies will melt away with egg on their faces@@aviator2252
@@brandonerwin7031 I was thinking more of something like : They give a release date next citizencon and game will probably be out Q1 2025, that would be dope
I drove the Scam Citizen bus for a while, but followed it till it was in a must better play state. The way I looked at it, I tried a free fly and enjoyed it enough to buy a basic starter package. It was 45 bucks. That's cheaper than the failed games I lost my money on that were released...some of the COD titles, Anthem, etc. That was 60 + dollars down the drain. This is in development and has it's share of bugs, but I find what is readily available to play, a lot of fun...especially with an org. The starter package is all you have to buy after that, you can earn your ships in game. You don't have to spend hundreds of dollars on ships unless you want to support the game. Those who can't basically player test an alpha state game should stay away from it.
i think the single biggest key to having fun long term in sc's current state is finding an org, or at least a consistent group of people to play with. ideally once we get closer to full release solo play will be better than now, but as it stands you really do need some buddies.
Some ppl dont understand what they doing there. Squadron 42 is the Singleplayer / Campaign for Star Citizen (PU) They Focused 80% of the 1300 devs on the Singleplayer, getting Tech done, Ships, Stations Planets and so on. Those Tech will now transfer into the MMO Star Citizen, meanwhile Devs also Developing new Tech for the Univers. 0 Loadingscreens, Maps interactive over all scales, full control over shipdoors modules and so much more. All those tech wasnt there and still isnt on the open Marked. This Team made completly new unseen tech. Ppl have no clue how huge all this is. Also Server Mesching, the Tech Demo they showed, no other Company in the world archived this, if they get this whole thing Dynamic its dmn awsome. Yes the game takes for Ever, 10 Years alrady, but they build up Tech from scratch, not seen. And Just for Scale, Red Dead Redemption 2 Cost beetween 370 - 540 Million and took them OVER 8 Years. Star Citizen is building a whole universe as MMO with tons of Gameplayloops. Ppl just cant handle Open development with all Pros and Cons, and that they dont show hours of Real gamplay im happy, i want to experience the game and not want to see hours of Gampeplay before the game is out. Same with Ashes of Creations, they show the development process and ppl cry about, scream scam couse they dont handle it like Cyberpunk which hypes and cant deliver or Starfield. Also Teams like Ashes or Star Citizen are try to listen to the community, which leads to rethink things and develope them different. Other teams give a s. and your ending up with something you may not like. What i saw those 2 days at Citizen Con was dmn awsome, from gamplay view and from Tech view. And to all those who cry about FPS. Optimizing a Game is with the Polishing the last things a dev team dos. Cry about it if it is still bad after Release, same for the Universe, its a Alpha not a finished released and optimized game. It was CPU Heavy, and for those who didnt watched citizen con, they alrady work on it with changing some of the workload from CPU to GPU.
@@dundukk9450 its not a gameplay trailer. Its an update with an honest look at how the game is going. If you are not capable to process that, idk what to tell you.
@@dundukk9450 so you just confirmed you have no clue about development and that performance is one of the last things. Also like mentioned, red dead redemption also cost up to 500 million and took over 8 years till release. Star citizen is building two games, own engine, own tech. Other company’s buying tech and using it with all the pros, cons and limitations. That you don’t understand what that mean and get sad, is a you problem.
@@babyjiren9676have you even tried to play Star Citizen or have you just joined the hate mob. The game itself is very well done and in a very playable state with many things to do more than every other space sim game to date. With the only exception being now after it's horrendous and also supposed scam launch that was no man's sky.
@@babyjiren9676 Oh good, another troll whose existence is pointless. Well actually, your role here is to make CIG care more. So far you are doing a good job, so keep at it!
Afaik Squadron 42 was always promised as the single player campaign of Star Citizen. Looking at this, then think about Starfield, it's like... damn, Bethseda really dropped the ball.
For people that don't know In the Starcitizen Public Universe (Pre-Alpha , broken/bugged builds) we have been able to seamlessly travel & land from Space Station to planets. There are biomes, landing zones, outposts. They get better and better every year with no loading screen involved inbetween and no teleport either. Now we have persistent (albeit buggy that being fixed) where I left my gun (because i died) in a cave somewhere in the verse and I was able to go back there after hours and get the gun back (had cool colours ahah). This is essentially the single player Lore story of the SC PU MMO. They just finished the features on it. But polish, FPS engine Optimisations, bug clearing are still need to be done. So this is not their final release trailer, but just announcing they just finished the features on it!
For those asking about Star Citizen: remember that the original pitch was a single player/coop wing commander successor, with a multiplayer Freelancer-style open world post-game. As it was funded the project expanded and scope creep happened, but Squadron 42 is the original pitch, and it’s incredible that we’re actually going to get to play it after all this time.
Many said that having a sim game as an MMO would be impossible as the server meshing would be an impossible task, but they demoed server meshing. The engine is more valuable than the game, and the game is over a half a billion in funding.
Backer since 2014. I can't wait for this to really bloom. Already spent a few hundred hours in Star Citizen mining explosive quantanium, doing mercenary work, getting put in prison for failing, stealing other peoples ships, watching my friend fly off in space because the ship turret was blown off and couldn't find him since the early UI years ago didnt have indicators, doing events when rep just got implemented and getting stuff added to my account permanently showing i've done it. Seeing someone fight the spacestation's defenses while all the bullets fly in the air with tracer rounds, ramming someone at max speed while they were trying to stop me from leaving the station and us both blowing up, getting baited into a cave area and getting hit by rockets, doing a 2v1 and forcing one of them to quantum jump before they die, ect. It's been a fun ride. The singleplayer is also functioning as a practice exercise for a lot of things in multiplayer, forcing them to go 'gold standard' on ships needed for SQ42. I hope they take the time to get it right. "A delayed game is eventually good, a rushed game is forever bad."
Yes, you can land without a loading screen. There is nothing like Star Citizen which is both single player Squadron 42 and MMO of Star Citizen Persistent Universe. Appreciate you covering the project we all love so much and hope to see you in the Verse.
That's the problem. Star Citizen's only claim to fame is no loading screens. Otherwise it's graphics are starting to show their age. Starfield with Texture mods destroys Star Citizen's graphics.
Starfield is built on an aging engine from the Fallout series of games and having put 120ish hours into Starfield I can say without significant modding it is not great in the graphics department. The look, score, exploration, and weaponplay are quite good but after two thourough playthroughs I am just more playing around with mods now trying to get more out of the game and hoping for a DLC soon. Squadron 42 has the Persistent Universe which is already online which is a multi-player experience of all the single player gameplay that is in Squadron 42, between both games there is far more replayability. On the point specifically on grafics I recommend checking out the CitizenCon panel on the updates to the rendering engine across many topics to see where SC is going. @@gorganhorn6872
That‘s a great way to put it. Plus since one of their bigger studios is in Germany I don’t feel bad about spending a bit more on funding the game. Am German myself :P
correction: we do not know if there are more than Vanduuls in Squadron 42. There are more alien races planned for Star Citizen though. Just to make this clear.
Huge SC nerd here. The frames will improve drastically in the near future both in SC and SQ42. The graphics team at CIG has, in the most recent SC build (Graphics team is the same for SQ and SC) removed all Gen11 code and we now have all Gen12. They"re currently working on integrating the Vulcan API as well as their own version of TTSS (Turing Texture Space Shading) which will not only improve frames but allow them to integrate VR support in the likely distant future.
ok now this looks very very intriguing i have always wanted a futuristic war game like this where we fly space ships in combat and it has foot combat and a very good story to it
@@thesupreme8062 It is, but only up to a certain point. At this point it is extremely improbable (just not to use the word impossible) that this is indeed a scam. Such claim would have been legitimate until a few years ago, when there was really a major setback to dev and there was very little stuff to do in the playable alpha. Holding skepticism is okay, but to hold it until the exact game before release is simply plain stupid at this point. A lot of people (including me) dont like the way Chris handleded the project, which is the real reason why this game is late with development and his choices and broken promises are bad and the he got shiitted upon by the internet and expected, yet he is now here presenting SQ 42. Bad choices and bad management happened and no one defends him, but still claiming "its a scam" is to be mentally stuck in 2018, plain and simple.
I've been so spoiled watching this game (plus SC) and CIG as a whole develop. It's been long (but not actually that long considering what they've had to build), but full of entertainment and interest along the way. Very happy I backed it. Started with a Kickstarter and like 4 people with a showcase that looked like it could have been an early Xbox 360 game. Now they've got 1300 people in 5 studios across 4 countries, and some of the best talent and tech in the world. I'm excited to see what the future holds and I'm glad there's at least one game dev trying to push the envelope. Fame or fail, I'm glad they're giving it a shot.
the actor cast is actually incredible. and the game looks pretty great too so good to know they didnt just waste the budget on movie stars instead of the developement
The company (CIG) has made well over $500mill since they started work on the game (SQ42 and Star Citizen) so they have a lot of budget to play with. Some from private investment but mostly from crowdfunding initially and then from pre sales of SQ42 and ship sales from Star Citizen(huge amount from ship sales).
I been playing since early 2017 when you couldn't enter Crusader, when Levski and Delamar for that matter were still in the Stanton system and I can say for a that SC and S42 have made huge strides in content.
I'm so excited for them. I'm stoked for the players as well, but Chris Roberts and CIG have been through absolute hell in terms of how the media and gamers in general have reacted to the game and funding model. I can't imagine how vindicated they must feel right now with the outpouring of support, and how great it's going to feel when they finally launch this thing. I also can not wait to throw around a few "told you so"s myself lol
@@TimOnTheNet They have definitely received a lot of hate, but as someone who has been part of the community since the only thing you could do was walk around a hangar and look at your ship, the amount of love and support CIG get from the community is unbelievable. Just looking at the money the game has raised is enough to tell that. And most people that hate it either haven't played it or simply don't understand the monumental task CIG have presented themselves.
Do you know anyone who spent $1200 on a ship that doesn't have a sq42 license? Or better yet, do you know anyone who has a game package that doesn't have a squadron 42 license included in it?@@krad1314
@@krad1314 Except you don't have to spend anything to play Squadron 42 aside from the actual price of the game? Which was $50 last time I checked, pretty good price for a game in today's industry.
Gameplay is all seamless too. Not sure about 42, but star citizen has like no loading screens, it's wild. It's also important to mention this is a whole new engine they are developing and selling to other devs. So they are not just making one game, they are making two and a super powerful engine.
I'm with Asmon on this - I have not put any money into this, I will not put any money into this until the final product is out and I can play it for myself.
The amount of people calling this a scam, while the game has had regular updates and showed steady improvements is crazy to me. Starfield was in development for over 10 years and it was a VERY experienced studio.
So it seems the past decade they put most of the dev teams on SQ42 rather than SC. Now that this is feature complete, they'll start shipping features over to SC from SQ42
yeah, i was kinda confused when the day 1 announcements said these features were gonna be in the game within 12 months. i didn't believe it until i heard 42 was actually feature complete if they actually finished the hardest part of the job, those release windows might actually be fairly believable. still won't hold my breath but man this progress is a little exciting
there were a couple big roadblocks yeah, the persistence and server meshing put the brakes on SC for years. we now have persistence in game, and they just demo'd the server meshing working at CitCon, once that's stable and ingame, there's apparently a ton of content they'll be ready to unload on us.
@@wholesome1844crucifier Why would their struggle in getting the engine to work for an MMO delay their single-player game by a decade? They wouldn't be using any of that in the singleplayer game. Squadron 42 was never releasing parallel with SC, it was always supposed to come before it.
I gave them money over 10 years ago and have enjoyed Star Citizen ever since, money well spent and I still look forward to the single player Squadron 42
i just love how through all the drama , all the delays , all the technical challenges and all the negativity , the star citizen community never gave up and kept supporting this project. if you think about it , what cgi is trying to make with star citizen was and still a joke in the game dev community because they thought it is not possible to make. but server meshing tec (server magic) has never been closer and will open the door for the making of Mega scale online games in the future. cant wait to see where this journey will take us in another 2 years. And for all the new people inserted in joining the Universe ,o7 to you and hope you have fun. see you guys in the universe.
CIG has a video demo of functioning Dyanamic Server Meshing in action, if people are interet. While the demo is small in scale, it apparently does scale up. Still some work to go, but it's no longer a 'maybe we can do this', it's now, 'we CAN do this!' It's for real.
I guess you never heard of Dual Universe? That game had dynamic server meshing, and it worked pretty well. There's other examples but that's one of the most known ones. That being said, dynamic server meshing has it's physical limitations. The reason some engineers say it's not possible in a game like star citizen is due to that. Then they show a video that any university student could pull off and people believe it's working. Problem with that video is that the physical limitations are not present, it's in lan, there's no latency, 3 rooms, etc. That's the reason that people with knowledge laugh about it, because if they wanted to prove it, this wasn't the way to do it. In fact it's the way to prove the opposite, they even used the common "jump when going through servers" that students used in the past to hide the flaws. I'm a big SC fan, and I support the project full on, but expectations have to be managed, and I can understand both sides, some don't have education in the matter, others see those and think they are scamming people. I don't think most people are aware of the limitations to such a system. Then you get people like @GUNNER67akaKelt below saying "it scales up". Unless you have it in your hands or see it like DU did in the past, there's no reason to believe it does. Think about it, it would be very easy for them to add a ton of clients and servers together for the demo, there were in fact hundreds of PCs with their builds there, but they chose deliberately not to do it. Manage your expectations, the tech does exist, it has been done before, has a ton of limitations they have to work around, and they haven't even touched on that so until you get to see or play it working on the PU there's no reason to be hyped about it. Now Pyro on the 31st, even if it's on a separate server, that's something to be hyped about!
@@robinv1485 Obviously they have unsolved problems still, hence the small scale demo, but if they don't believe it CAN work then that would seriously suck for the people demoing it on stage who pride themselves on the tech they make.
24:48 That is the most planet looking planet I've seen in video gaming. Our planet is very cloudy, and these clouds in SC Squadron 42 are really selling the vibe. It is really good that squadron 42 is being released soon, because this was one of the promised items on their list for a while; And so far, the game is delivering.
The insane part is that by knowing how Star Citizen works you can pretty much say that you can seamless landing in that planet too... God, i'm fkg hyped for this game.
At first glance, did you think that transition to the Manchester shot was in-game engine footage? I think a lot of people did. You know CIG is on point when it becomes difficult to distinguish between reality and in-game.
I'm going to be honest I think this is one of the very feel games if not the only game that I ever saw that made me impressed and feel Next gen, It reminded of several trailers or gameplay of the PS3 when all we had was PS2, I was truly mind-blowing, the details, the scale and graphics feels good. A good comparison, look for one of the most refined games of PS2 like Cod or metal of Honor, then look for Metal Gear Solid 5 from PS3, doesn't need to be the new one, the PS3 One it's already a good example: We jumped from a straight line game with fix missions and a graphic that you could tell everything apart and with a good but simple story, just a couple enemies on screen, an ok amount of guns and a walk and shoot mechanic and some cool scene to a FULL scale map that in the time was massive with maybe hundred people a map, new mechanics, fully animated and voice acted cutscenes, good story and a massive campaign, barely no loading and an overwhelming amount of things happening at once,
dont worry you can disable motion blur, I also find it hilarious the amount of people talking about the fps when this video was their announcement that they were moving onto the optimization phase of development.
Star Citizen initially was a stretch goal of Squadron 42 Kickstarter : ) All the actors were recorded way back when they finished the story and writing. Couple of years ago CIG shuffled devs from SC to Squadron to finish this thing already, and looks like it beared fruit. This video was the ending of the Citizen Con, which in itself was kind of the end of 'radio silence' about the project. Like we all know that they were actually working on stuff, but details were sparse. All two days of presentation were awesome, to the point, and with very little fluff. And then they ended with this... Poor Chris Roberts was literally on the verge of tears from the cheers and standing ovation. What a moment... PS. I'm pretty sure that the baddy in the end was played and voiced by Andy Serkis : ) And yeah, they have at least 3 alien languages fully fleshed out, the nerds they are.
The amount of people desperate for S42 to fail is crazy man. Either its as dope as was promised or it isnt. But were *all* better off if it succeeds.
I mean idc about SC, the scope of the game looks promising but it's really rough to watch, especially the ground/FPS part, even some indie games can do better
yeah i see no reason why people would want it to fail other than to just say they were right
if 42 failed, it would probably be horrible for the rest of the industry, especially the sci fi genre. which could really use a solid success right about now. even though i had little faith in this part of the game, i still REALLY want it to do well. hell i wanna play the thing, i just hope it turns out good
Evil narcissistic people exist on the internet. they want everything to burn.
yeah, people should be more like Asmon. it looks good, and if its good when its out then he will play it, if not then he will ignore it and play the next thing.
What a surprise, people wants a scam to fail.
I love how the trailer quality was so good that when they shifted to real-world footage of Earth, Manchester, everyone thought we were still in the game engine! 😂
me and my friend laughed when we realized it was real life we were like 900 years ago??
Lol, yeah
Anyone that finds the "no loading screens" part impressive - the "star citizen engine demo" from Saturday is a must watch. It's literally a 20 minute engine demo of 1 continuous shot with 0 loading screens. They go from planet to planet, from inside a ship in space, to watching grass blow in the wind on the planet surface.
I stopped playing Starfield because of all the loading screens it had! You walk out of store and loading!
You don't have to watch the recent demo to realise this. Star Citizen PU has no loading screens anyway.
You didnt notice the hick ups uh ?This game is so ambitious that it will be a literal bug fest for at least the first year of release. Crazy clothing simulation per individual lmao....lets see how that goes when a big group is on screen. There are way way more probs than that. I so hope to be wrong, but i'm not
@@Nemoticon Just don't mind the 30k every 10 mins or the char reset every couple weeks or fighting with bugs 100% of your play sessions.
@@ramonandrajo6348what's woke about it?
I’m really hoping the game succeeds. Same for star citizen. Would love for the games to be optimised and fully fleshed out.
exactly. and more than that, you should also want this to succeed even if you dont care about these games, because the tech they're trying to perfect, is what will bring gaming as a whole into a new era. Where games can make incredibly big scoped games and have it work with thousands of players participating.
@@Mr-R.R.people only want it to fail so they can laugh and scream "i told you all it was a scam!!!"
but this game succeeding would be massive for sci-fi games and the whole gaming industry
It's already failed
@@zagan1 How do you figure?
They have shown the server meshing that everyone said was gonna be impossible they now have it working and showed us so I doubt anything can stop em now! short of an apocalypse or at least economic collapse in at least one of the many countries they're developing parts of the game in! and we are talking about the US, UK and Germany which are doing okay enough I'm a bit worried for the American economy, the UK government tried trickle up economics by giving the poor money packages to get by and it worked because the £ has bounced back to full stability from what had been the worst value of the pound after 30 years of stability! so with all that in account lets just say I was losing hope until this years presentation, and i'm not religious but I have faith once again that this game and it's multiplayer counterpart can seal the deal we made as players when we invested our money all those years ago!
I knew it wasn't gonna be a smooth ride or a quick one, like Rome it was built from the ground up and it wasn't built in a day!
Also the way they've done their server meshing is gonna revolutionize the games industry because it makes large scale high quality mmo's like these with physics systems on par with scientific simulations possible we are gonna see a lot more mmo's with simulation level physics, no loading screens and 80-90% universe or game wide crashes!
"Why did they work on this instead of Star Citizen?"
The two games are like the conjoined twins that were connected at the skull. They share the same assets, engine, and event universe. Building one directly influences the other.
that is probably what delayed SQ42 so much, them constantly changing things and having to rework core aspects of the game, meant they had to delay the development of SQ42 until some of those core aspects were set into stone.
@@danilooliveira6580 Honestly the opposite is more the case. A LOT of resources have been poured into SQ42 and (for better or worse) they've been pretty hush-hush about S42 progress. But there are a bunch of features that only exist in S42 that have never been ported to the PU for multiple reasons (most of them server-related), so a lot of progress on the game was invisible to players on the MMO side of things. The general idea, though, that making essentially 2 games at once delayed both of them, is basically correct.
As much as I'm hopeful for the game I'm not gonna defend them on this.
Also SQ42 will be what they show off to the world. The Star Citizen MMO component is really just for more serious fans and online player community.
HUGE amount of people are not into multiplayer stuff. Not to mention MMO will not have massive cinematic story-lines and epic moments, it will be a grind fest to get your next ship.
@@danilooliveira6580 its the other way around.
The entire video is gameplay. Anyone who has played one of the Wing Commanders games will recognize Chris Roberts' style. It's always very story-driven, lots of interactions and cutscenes interspersed by missions and combat. We haven't really seen a game like this since Freelancer and it's nice to see Mark Hamill and John Rhys-Davies. They were both in Wing Commander 3 & 4 as well!
Not only that
Who will want to make a major franchise title in any other engine?
Alien, Warhammer, Dungeons and Dragons, literally limitless possibilities
That trumpet music during the 2nd fleet reveal screams early PC space combat sim
And anyone who knows Chris Roberts, knows this is already 12+ years into development and 3+ years behind schedule and unlikely to come out anytime THIS decade.
What ever, if all these updates are not on your computer “””it’s not on your computer”””.
Prophecy was always my favorite. Loved that game. Could be the fact I'd recently got a better flight stick so I could roll by twisting, but the control and combat in thatgame just haven't been matched for me.
I tried star citizen recently and was actually surprised at how much fun I had, games still horrendously broken but it's more fun than star field. There I said it.
thats because the servers just suck so much. most of the bugs are connected to server issues in some way. if you are lucky enough to play on an empty server the game feels so much more fluid and polished.
As HaNs said, the servers do suck pretty bad, but its also because a lot of what comes to SC is only after it gets finished in SQ42. Once SQ42 is released i bet SC will see a massive boost in things getting done.
Fun with friends for sure.
wait til server meshing is in, servers should perform 100x better. When you get lucky and have the server to yourself it feels incredible.
@@MrSpy13011yeah definitely more fun with a group
When I experienced the detail, scale and scope of Star Citizen, I stopped caring about a release date honestly. What they're doing for gaming is truly amazing, and I'm happy to be along for the ride.
It is a dream. It's already made some of mine come true from my days playing privateer in the 90s. Can't wait for sq42, it's gonna be great.
Even if Star Citizen wasn't delivering what it promised I would be glad that the project existed primarily because Space Games as a whole were Dead besides 2 or 3 very small time games before SC shattered records with its crowd funding. By showing that there was MASSIVE interest in space games people started making games big and small all over the place and its been wonderful to have so many options. Astroneer, Cosmoteer, Elite Dangerous, Space Engineers, Everspace 1-2, Hardspace Shipbreaker, Kerbal Space Program, No Mans Sky, Rebel Galaxy, Space Pirates and Zombies, The list goes on and on. I don't think any of those games would have received the funding required to exist if Star Citizen didn't show that interest was there and that people would buy the games.
@@KyrinsonThank you for recognizing this and stating it!
100% with you lol! Happy to be part of it. I take 3 months breaks then come back all the time, been doing it since kickstarter. Can't wait to see where it goes in the next few years 😄
Exactly this! I have been in for the die roll almost from the beginning. In my Youth I played almost all Origin games, Probably only missing Wing Commander one. I even played a lot of strike commander.
You should definitely check out the engine demo video, it shows a lot of the tech in the game. people forget they have not just been building a game, They started with 5 people in 2012, now they now have 1200 staff 5 studios across the world, a motion capture studio, they had to build the tools because they are doing thing that have never been done before and making two games all at the same time. They are inventing technology as they go to do what they are doing.
Yep, the thing is that for a decade now we have been able to learn and follow that tech being made. Every success and hurdle described in great detail. Every week, of every month, of every year.
So many things we knew about, and so many more things we didn't, got all placed there. Gone are the days of the "sandworms" where handcrafted setpiece were nessesarry. What made stuff like the opening scene stand out to me was just how... Well familiar it became. Because I have seen these ships, fought alongside them too.
So much pooled potential that can finally be realized.
The sad thing is the Average Joe won't understand something like Server Meshing, and how it's such a holy grail of online gaming and how insanely complex it is.
On the plus side, I don't doubt Star Engine itself is going to be worth a small fortune if CIG licences it out, people are obsessed with UE5 these days, but honestly, Star Engine is just so much more
@@rock2k14 I notice they have trademarked StarEngine. Trouble with selling it is nobody even wants to develop for CryEngine, it'll be a hard sell to convince people to use StarEngine with it's massive catalog of 1 game and nobody in the industry outside of CIG that ever used it. I think it's more likely CIG will take on other projects for publishers post Star Citizen... so like 5+ years. Unreal on the other hand is about 7 million developers deep and has the support to back it up.
There's a lot of monetization options though, and probably a ton of legal hurdles too.
yep, server meshing has the potential to change games forever.
@@magezt what is server meshing (average joe here)
For those who dont know, Squadron 42 is the single player game that is set in the same universe as Star Citizen. SC is the Multiplayer game. They are separate purchases.
How cunvienyet thay get to double dip
50bucks for the biggest mmo, and overall game ever made, and you find it crazy that they ask 30 more for a completly exclusive solo experience ? @@djtoxicdhg
@@djtoxicdhg The Star Citizen access is $45 for the cheapest package... and Squadron 42 is like $15 on top of that. Still cheaper than far less effort AAA games of today.
@@BionicBurke FYI SQ42 is not on the store anymore since june 23
@@BionicBurkecope harder for this scam of a game
Every ship has a full interior design. From mess halls, recreation rooms, engeineering the list goes on. Yes even restrooms.
Every single ship.
for 5k :D:D
When he says Every single ship he means it. Those two capital ships you saw at the start of the video? Yapp, fully explorable with the one on the left being 480m and the other being 990m long on the right.
For comparison the biggest aircraft carrier in our world is around 335m long and a standard Venator-class star destroyer from star wars is 1600m long. Just imagine exploring those two ships.
not every single ship there is a decent amount of single seaters tho with only the cockpit and i still love my arrow even tho i own bigger ships
@@columbolajos4390 theres like 1 ship thats 5k.. not justifying the price but the price is mainly backing the development of star citizen and sq42
those big enough to have them.
i dont think u will find a mess hall in a fighter jet
As a long time backer of Star Citizen and Squadron 42 this was funny to watch, although I sometimes wanted to scream on the screen if there were misconceptions or false guesses ^^
Some facts:
- Squadron 42 is the spiritual succesor to the Wing Commander series fomr the 90, Chris Roberts (the Star Citizen guy) ...is actually the guy who made Wing Commander back in the day (and the intro scene from Lord of War with Nicholas Cage but thats another story).
- Squadron 42 was the plan BEFORE Star Citizen. They just saw the interest in a new space game was so big they also wanted to make a multiplayer part (in the spirit of the Wing Commander: Privateer and later Freelancer games). With the planet tec they developed they split it up into two separate games already in about 2014, since then the development is parallel, with a focus on Squadron 42.
- all in there was game engine, no pre-rendered scenes
- you can land seamlessly without any loading screen in Star Citizens alpha for years now so thats really not a new feature for a Star Citizen backer ^^ (WARNING: if you play the alpha for about two weeks you get so used to it that other games then feel really really small...)
- they already scripted Squadron 42 part 2 and part 3
- the pilot in the beginning which you hear bnut not see is no other than Henry Cavill, who saw the developement in around 2015-ishe and tasked his manager to reach out to Chris Roberts to play a role in the game. It worked out, he plays one pilot now in the game.
- this is the first QUADRUPLE A game proving that the normal gaming industry with publishers is way behind what would be technically possible with games
- the campaign will have around 40 hours of gameplay (around 28 chapters / levels).
- I recommend to watch the Star Citizen official channel on youtrube and see the CitizenCon 2023 panel videos, especially the tech demo about StarEngine and server meshing. Then its clear why Squadron 42 and Star Citizen are lightyears advanced compared to current games.
The star Citizen community is very welcoming, there is an official guide system where players guide you with your first steps in the universe and the current price for Squadron 42 is about 45 dollars. not too expensive I d say.
Cant help it but to all the haters: its gonna be good, we told you so ^^
even better is some sources have said the game maybe be closer to 100 hours in total, with 40 hours being the quick end of playthroughs (ie skipping side content)
Glad someone said it. People getting mad at the focus being SQ42 have no clue it was the original pitch.
One question, when i buy the game do i get to play it forever? Does it have like a subscription system?
@@Kargnaras no its $45 to get a game package, no subscriptions
@@KargnarasAlso If you bought Star Citizen you will get Squadron 42 too (when It get's released)
The Star Citizen tech in alpha now already allows you to land on planets directly. You can actually look through scopes and see the orbital space stations in real time and see other players quantum jump from space while standing on the planet/moon grounds. When I saw it for the 1st time in game it blew my mind. Also the sound of a ships doing flybys and cloud physics is pretty cool.
That and no loading screens at all
Whats the gameplay like though? All the prettier graphics in the world can only do so much... Is this game an fps, loot grinfest, ship combat, or just a hub world where you play a bunch of mini games like Roblox and VrChat? I feel that people are glazing on graphics as a way to cope with the fact that this game will never release
@@wugira76it’s more an rpg. You can be a miner, scavenger, pirate, cargo hauler and bounty hunter at the moment. You can go anywhere in the system at anytime and they are working on other solar systems as well. You can walk every inch of every planet and moon, except for the gas giant you have to fly that. Also like the guy above said too it’s alpha right now. The fps is ok but choppy at times right now but like asmon was saying in the video clearing up that kind of stuff usually comes towards the end of development.
its open freeform, do the tutorial learn the absolute basics and start picking up missions as you explore you find POI that have things to do also, there is mining and cargo hauling, piracy and criminal activities, a prison system if you fail in your criminal enterprises. the graphics are beautiful but even on a great pc can get choppy walking through some of the cities, i rarely experience crashes or 30k since the latest update, but server fps can be quite low occasionally resulting in lackluster ai behavior like tposing or oblivious hostiles on foot, i have not seen the same effect on enemy craft they still do an ok job of fighting back. as it stands currently in the PU i would justify the price tag of the starter ship package of 45$ you can definitely find that value and more in what is currently in the game. and the best experiences i have ever had in any game had nothing to do with any official missions ingame, i bought in game the 890 jump space yacht/luxery cruise liner which has zero purpose currently, my entire org dressed up in suits and we toured the system RPing the Elite industialist oligarchy and bestowing upon new commers of the game a free trip to any landmark or station they would like to see, we had a blast and made a ton of ingame acquaintances and many new members to the org. that being said i still tend to get burned out about 6months of playing until the next major patch as currently it has not achieved imo enough content to be a forever game
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@@jerrymayne6095 also want to mention that pyro, the new system, is coming in the ptu at the end of this month and will be in the game before the end of the year
I was watching whole CitizenCon. Seeing people standing up for Chris and cheering him up, and him having tears in his eyes made me teary. People joking all the time and his dream is coming true. Squadron and StarCitizen are his dreams. It's so wholesome.
Yeah I got teary eyed too; glad he got the standing ovation because the industry has been giving him nothing but huge s--t the last decade calling the entire project a "scam".
It honestly feels like it is, and I've played Star Citizen for awhile. The PU has so many bugs and crashes all the time. You lose your inventory when you're playing, which if you're doing hauls, means a ton of money. If I'm mining I might lose my Prospector or it gets stuck in the middle of nowhere with Quant in it and explodes. Or my mining laser stops working randomly. Or the server hiccups and a quant rock explodes me and my vehicle all because I had the laser on when the server went funky. Or, the only way to test the new content is locked behind buying vehicles that can only be purchased with money, like salvaging. If I do bunker runs, my inventory can get bugged when looting and then I can't pick up anything or take anything out of my inventory.
Don't get me wrong, the game LOOKS AMAZING. Flying feels nice, your ships have weight to them, especially in atmosphere. The gunplay is great. But the little things break the game, and it is server wide.
It seems like they put a lot of effort into the game, and the beauty and scale of the game shows it, but the engine they're running on was never designed to be for an MMO, and they're too deep into it to start all over. They were forced to develop all this tech so they could increase their max server limit from 50 to 100 players. They are doing a lot to make the game feel great, but like everyone is saying, Squadron 42 took up 80% of their dev team. Star Citizen itself has basically been on hold until they finish Squadron 42, with minor adjustments for PU. And with the servers basically in the same state as when I started playing, I can't go back until I see that the servers are no longer 30king over and over, every hour or so.
I've had too many times where I get on the PU, suit up, ship out, get to my destination for the server to 30k, and then log out, log in, suit up again at station, recover my ship, ship out, only for the server to 30k again, not even 30 minutes onto the new server. Sometimes it will be 4 hours before it happens, sometimes they've nailed it on a new patch and it doesn't happen at all for a few days. But the constant threat of, restart everything you have been doing with so much setup keeps me from coming back until they fix the server issues. Not to mention the lack of real content for the game other than "earn money to buy ships" with no other real features.
Incredible moment to see, considering that I've been backing since 2015 and played the entire WC and Privateer series back in the day. That is, I've seen him pursuing the dream for decades. I'm here for the support. O7
@@billywashere6965It was such a beautiful moment given all the shit people have given him over the years....the FUD, the false accusations, the DS brigade, Refundians, etc.
@spacep0d Yup, you could literally see it on his face like it was a wash of relief that he got to prove his worth and his naysayers wrong. It was like a giant burden of relief. It's not done yet or out yet, but it felt like a "Yeah, we proved them wrong and I'm glad you guys supported us through all of that FUD" moment.
The crazy thing is that they did full mocap for all the animations, the cutscenes, and the combat animations are from real soldiers. Squadron 42 is to establish lore, the world, and act as a sort of tutorial for the persistent universe. Also, to tell a cool story. If I had to bet on a release date, I'd say next year around oct-nov at the earliest.
And to ppl saying it's a scam, you don't spend millions of dollars on, mark Hamill, Gary Oldman, and Jillian Anderson for a scam. 1 why spend that money, and 2 they wouldn't attach their names to something they think might be a scam.
The people saying it's a scam simply don't know what they're talking about. Who tf would spend 10+ years making a game and have builds of it publicly available to play for over half a decade just to scam people?
Yeah, the polishing phase typically takes 1-2 years. Although I don't think the game will be in good enough shape to stop being in alpha. I think the game will take 3-4 years to be at that stage.
I mean they probably would but I don't think it's a scam
"And to ppl saying it's a scam, you don't spend millions of dollars on, mark Hamill, Gary Oldman, and Jillian Anderson for a scam" Remember all those crypto endorsed by celebrity scam shit lol.
Totally!
When I first tried out Star Citizen a year ago I was like “oh, okay, I understand how this could take 10+ years to develop”. Star Citizen isn’t just your every video game, these guys have been building tech that is going to redefine what a video game can even be, even in its janky alpha state it’s totally brain bending.
A Dune game on Star Citizen game engine would be cool
@@golik133ill really excited for that if cig really give license for others to use star engine, this will be fucking win win
@@golik133Warhammer 40K would be fucking nuts
I don't understand how people can call it a scam, when they literally watch video with people WORKING ON IT
@@enzds They simply count other people's money, envy the developers' profits, they are incensed by the development deadlines and, out of bilious envy, they want their belief in the failure of the project to be confirmed.
I think it's the greatest thing when people praise something for being "clean and not overdesigned" when in reality is so overdesigned to where pretty much every mechanism and ship in the game is realistic and functional.
Goes to show how things that are well thought out and executed "just look right" to people who don't really care about design.
Worked with some people who were on this project (artside) before and they always had the best things to say about the approach to art in general as well as the attention to detail (which is a very very rare in this industry).
Definitely not a game for me, but I'm really happy to see stuff like this.
Reality is overdesigned for people that look, and simplistic for those that don't. That's the great part. If you don't care, you notice little things that are nice, and if you do care, you notice even littler things that are nice.
@@Obscurite1221 Exactly man!
After watching morphologists "an architect reviews" series on star citizen it really made me appreciate that! Like having piping and ducts *actually* feel like they have been sensibly placed in relation to people using the space, and they don't awkwardly clip into nowhere.
20:30 Squadron 42 has always been the actual "game" insofar as the whole Star Citizen project. Star Citizen has always been a separate MMO using the tools and such that are being created for Squadron 42. Both games use the same assets, graphics engine, and mechanics. The end result is Star Citizen is designed to be the open world of the same world as Sq42. Currently anything finished in Sq42 gets ported over to Star Citizen directly.
Honestly it's pretty well summed up for most people who don't know about the project is that SQ42 is GTA 5, SC is GTA online
It wasn't even a thing orginally.
@@escapetarkov3838yes, it was. The OG kickstarter page is still there, and its still on said page. people just don't read, and CIG did a shite job of explaining the difference on said page so it's easily missinterpreted
@@rock2k14 that is a great analogy.
The ships in Star Citizen are hands down the most detailed 3D models ever put in a video game.
Look at the Citizencon m8.. not only the ships..look at the new water.. reflection.. fog system that are coming it Will blow your mind
The ships alone are awesome! Love the 400i!
@@Ahle85The water thing... never ever seen anything like it in any game before.
@@rumrunner8260 The luxury guy :D
@@rumrunner8260 400i is incredible. i fly a star runner and i just want to spend all my time crawling around the secret tunnels hahaha
Makes me happy that a lot of people now finally see why backers believed in this project for all those years. Squadron 42 and Star Citizen have the potential to be groundbreaking experiences.
Yeah honestly, cant people let themselves get excited. Im new to it, but idc if the game isnt coming soon. What they just showed rivaled cinema, HOLLYWOOD BUDGET, I love film form and if they can craft a short film trailer this incredible, I cannot comprehend the details they must be putting in the world
Ikr, i've bought a pledge with the aurora 11 years ago, been trying it out on and off over the years, from what ive seen over the years when it comes out it's going to live up to the hype I just hope i'm alive by the time it does 😅 if not well my nephews can enjoy it
I've been so critical of CIG and Star Citizen. It's so good to see something maybe worth the $600 million they've crowdfunded. I'm very hopeful they pull it off.
Ya I hope squad 42 is good.
I'm glad they broke off from the star citizen team. Sometimes they update something but mostly ita a new costly spaceship every few months for a decade
Rare are the developper that keep you updatetd for soo freaking long and tell exactly what is happenning :)
what will really blow your mind is when you discover every ship even the big capital ships are full realized and have full functional interiors
And they are not instanced. You really exist physically inside the ship.
Which is important for the physical damage model that allows projectiles to penetrate ships and damage parts inside. As well as allow boarding FPS gameplay.
Those of us playing SC have already been in the Javelin many times. :)
Don't forget: The massive space stations as well. Only the buildings on planets dont have interiors yet.
They want to treat every capital ship basically as a server as far as I can remember. That's how much in terms of resources capships need. It's insane.
'Labeled, leads to void'
lol
Thank you for doing a reaction video for this game. People will hate the game regardless of what is shown, but seeing your genuine reaction was incredible. Keep up the great videos; if you pick up the game when it releases or try Star Citizen, I know the community would love to show you around. The game is fun, even with the bugs (talking about Star Citizen).
I don't think people hate Squadron 42, I think they hate the accessible PU alpha/demo thing that is all people can touch and play as of now after a decade. Squadron 42 has always been cool.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator They haven't even played Star Citizen most likely. There is a reason the game have had a steady player base since 2013 and so dedicated. The tech that is already in Star Citizen is breathtaking and what is to come is definetely gonna leave a mark in gaming history. Look up StarEngine Trailer.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreatorit's not about what you think champ
Can we stop acting like everything is about us ?
Well not everyone feels that way about SQ42. There are a number of people that hate SQ42 because they feel it takes time and energy away from the PU. You can't make everyone happy. I for one look forward to both.@@CyberneticArgumentCreator
they showed nothing lol jsut some curated shit
I honestly hope this succeeds. What these guys are doing with this and Star Citizen isn't just making a game. They are building the tech needed for that level of scope and that takes time. Unfortunately, gamers aren't know for their patience. Is any of them going to be good? We'll see when the product is released. I didn't put any money into it, but if it turns out to be good, I will.
And even if it turns out to be bad. The tech achievements on their own are a giant leap for gaming.
@@germanmoscayup. Server meshing was at most a concept before. After 6 years of development they actually presented a working prototype last weekend
Imagine these types of games in 20 years bro
@@germanmosca this is exactly what i thought. i care more about the tech working as intented when SQ42 drops more than the story being compelling itself. Cause if the tech works, that means SC and gaming in general can achieve so much more.
What technology did they invent?
Mark Hamill: "The advantage here was Chris Roberts. I had such a good time working with him and not only he's a wizard of all things involving games, but he's a great director and a great friend. And really when he asked me, I didn't even have to read the script, I just jumped out. I really wanted to work with him again." - RUclips video: Mark Hamill on Star Citizen, Wing Commander and Star Wars. Channel: PC GAMER
PC Gamer talks to Mark Hamill about his work on Star Citizen's 'Squadron 42' module, his career, fandom and more. (2017)
Just want to mention that after that at CitizenCon when video ended, Chris Roberts got a standing ovation of a couple of minutes before he asked everyone to stop because he was about to cry. Eleven years of development and decades of vision are finally coming close to fruition.
I was always cautiously optimistic of Star Citizen and Squadron 42, but now the hype train is screaming down the tracks.
I rarely hear anyone talking about Star citizen apart from people talking about how much they made off on a game that isn't even remotely close to release 10 years later and people calling it an outright scam so I'm not sure exactly what "hype train" you are referring to 😂
@@bagelbomb1887just let people have their fun man. This trailer they released shows the vast amount of work they’ve put into this. The engine that they’ve made is so incredibly complex, if they pull it off, will be revolutionary in the gaming industry.
@@ShmoozeEvolution While I hope it succeeds, I feel like a clock is ticking. Even the diehards seem to be getting ruffled at how long things are taking. Many of them were expected the SQ42 campaign to release about a year out from this presentation. Well, here we are a year later and we were just told the release is in 2026. And what are the chances even THAT is true, with CIG's history of being late?
What people tend to forget is that, CIG did not start out with a 1000+ people and $500mil+, like many other titles out there, which has taken the same time or even longer and is far from the same scale and scope that SC/SQ42 is going for.
Building up a new studio, new tech, innovating on old and creating new tech, this takes time to do.
Right that bothers me so much it's so annoying. They started with 12 dudes in Chris's basement. Bethesda has been using the same engine on all their games since 1999 and it still took them 10 years to make starfield.
@JimJamTalks because people are dumb and major news isn't allowed to post positive articles on SC so all the masses have seen over the years are hit pieces. So they don't care to learn about it
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We who have played for years in the Alpha stages with all it's bugs are just now starting to reap the rewards of Star Citizen and S42. CGI is on the cusp of something really big. If you haven't tried it, I highly suggest it. They have "Free fly's" at different times of certain months. It costs nothing to try for 2 weeks or so and gives you 10-12 different ships to try.
It's enjoyable if you know the bugs to avoid. It's still very alpha and lot of these features are not yet in the available game. Just a warning for those who want to try it out
The “Free fly” events are the worst time for a new player to try the game. A lot of new players join and servers get very crowded and laggy as hell.
If you haven't tried it, I highly suggest it.
Sorry, I dont pay $98.00 AUD for a starter pack for an unreleased game that has been in alpha ten years and has no release date, no beta date and what seems to be a never ending cash shop. $100 AUD is what you would pay for Nier, a fully released game or another fully released AAA title by an established software developer.
Squadron 42 has been yanked from sale..pending a price increase. WIth no release date. AGAIN.
Call me when the full game gets actually released. Not an alpha.
@@Sonnabend00 "If you haven't tried it, I highly suggest it." they then literally said there are "free fly's" where the game is FREE to try for a while. you dont have to pay to try it.
Yall dont know how immersive this game actually is... I bought Star Citizen yesterday and was SHOCKED when i entered my Ship, just to see that you can even replace your modules (Shields, Battery, etc.) by hand AND actually press the switches on your cockpit for the functions like "Power, Weapons, Shields, etc etc ON/OFF"
You literally work your ship. Impressive. You can even log-out in deep space by going to your Bed and sleep. This game will be the next biggest thing i bet.
Chances are there will be at least a few hundred next biggest things before this is ready for actual release with content that will keep you engaged for more than a short while. What's there is cool and all, but it would be nice if they could start building a fleshed out game around it.
I understand what you mean. After 2 weeks almost nonstop grinding the game i noticed that you must keep yourself engaged yourself atm... The game wont "drive you into one direction".. No story, no goals, just contracts.. and the factions arent that great yet. But it keeps you entertained if you love space @@FM-ge3nf
not *quite* at the point of hand replacement of the ship bits, buuut... it is planned for future, methinks
@@Fyrebird721 ?? you can replace components by hand right now, its been in the game for over a patch now
I started a couple months ago. It’s digital heroin lol so good
At the beginning of the video, the biggest ships in the fleet are the RSI Bengals, but second after them are the Aegis Javelin spaceships, where Gillian Anderson is also talking. In the Star Citizen world, Invictus Launch Week is held every May. It is a tribute to the UEE Navy. It's a time when the Army's destroyer ships show up at certain space stations. In the docking area of the space station you can enter these ships, where officers will greet you and show you around the inside of the ships, but of course you can't get to everything. :)
It actually looks like there is only one Bengal carrier in that fleet. If you look closely, you can see that there are similarly designed, but smaller, ships that have massive battleship style turrets on their upper hulls. Probably an unannounced cruiser design.
@@randlebrowne2048 The Bengal is the 'Aircraft Carrier' representation of a Carrier Strike Group like the US Navy has, its surrounded by all the other ships (destroyers/missile boats/submarines and so on), its 990m long, you can fly with and around it during the events in SC but won't be able to enter it outside of Sq42
So there are several Bengals overall, I think there are 3 known of lorewise, not many of them, the rest of the ships are Idris / Javelin capital ships which will be available in SC after SQ42 launches, you can already fight them or clip through them to steal the NPC ships right now, but they have no real interior yet there, unless you go to the event which lets you tour the inside of one partially
The campaign ship you will play on is supposed to be an Idris but you will likely visit the rest of them (as seen in this trailer, where the character is on the Javelin, the bigger one)
@@randlebrowne2048 The Bengals(there seem to be 3 or 4) are escorted by Javelin destroyers, Idris frigates as well as Hammerhead corvettes and some smaller Retaliator bombers/gunships
@@C4799 Take a closer look at the ones in the background. They have a similar bow shape; but, their engine nacelles are a different shape/configuration. The Bridge superstructure is also a bit different.
Most importantly, there are a pair of large, battleship style, turrets between the bow and the bridge (something missing from the Bengal in the foreground). The foreground ship has a bunch of much smaller point defense turrets instead of the two big ones on the background ships.
The background ships also, while have a similar (but not the same) design, seem to be smaller (somewhere between the size of the Javelin destroyer and the Bengal in the foreground). Between the obvious large ship-to-ship turrets, and the in-between size, I'm assuming that the background ships are an unannounced cruiser design.
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There are four Bengals in that fleet.
Also as a note for the top comment there, your custom character is used in the single player campaign, finishing it leads DIRECTLY into star citizen the mmo, it plays a main part of the story and getting your citizenship hence the name “Star Citizen”
oh thats sick
@@Joyapp Yeah, in this universe the United Empire of Earth (UEE) has a sort of "Service Guarantees Citizenship" thing going on. Citizenship isn't necessary; but, it's supposed to come with some perks in-game.
nice to see Asmon coming around to giving Squadron 42 a shot. i wonder if he will extend that to Star Citizen as well. the Squadron 42 showcase was really amazing and quite surprising in it's updated quality and execution. it is definitely looking promising.
I'm told he just watched the Star Citizen Star Engine demo earlier today and was blown away.
Waiting for him to release that video on this channel.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 very nice, i know that he did not like it and just memed on it a lot for it's funding model and he even turned down NMPLol who was going to show him around the alpha, but it is good to see him coming around.
i just don't think he should play-test it, play-testing requires a lot of patience and the right attitude to deal with bugs, instability and incomplete aspects of a game. so just waiting until they are in a much more stable state or full release is what i would recommend he do.
@@Odeezee
Yeah he should wait awhile to play especially if you don’t have the patience and don’t want to test and report bugs.
When you read many of these threads on Star Citizen you can tell who read the TOS and understand it’s a game under development from the ones that did not read anything.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 haha, this is so f-ing true. people really do not like reading online, especially disclaimers. pity, coz they could avoid a lot of frustration if they at least read the ones for Star Citizen telling you to expect bugs, instability and incomplete aspects of the game. /sigh
The reason they're finishing this instead of Star Citizen, or well, the online Public Universe (PU) is because Squadron 42 was always the original promised game, the PU is the online later version. The PU has for a long time been a way to help fund it.
Also want to mention that if you want to understand Star Citizen and it's fanbase it's easier to look at it in the context of games like DCS and the wider flight-sim space. This is a community fully willing to help fund insane games even though they know that their community is overall quite niche. It's even common for people to spend many thousands on building their sim setup, some even going so far as to build entire rooms to look like the cockpit of ships they like.
As a member of the community I'll tell you that that's why you're never gonna convince them it's a scam because at the end of the day it's a community that enjoy the game that's already there. Because at the core of the game the flight mechanics just feel amazing. And you'd be surprised how far having a good community to play with that organizes events and keeps things fresh can go.
Asmongold you wanted to see seemless space to planet and back then check out the Star Citizen StarEngine demo. and on a side note Squadron 42 is gonna be how they introduce the player to the lore of Star Citizen so both Squadron 42 and Star Citizen were always meant to compliment each other.
Yes, you can fly from the planets surface, to space, to another planet or moon, fly down to the surface there, enter a bunker, shoot some dudes, fly back to a space station for lunch, and a berveage, lol. All without a loading screen. The only loading screens you ever get are, when you first load into the game, when you die, and when you go to/get out of prison. That's it!
As a longtime backer and SC player.
Sq42 is the single player story game. It’s set in same universe as SC just SC is a open world MMO.
Yes there are no load screens in flight in SC or anywhere in game. SQ42 should be mostly same except of course being story based there will be cutscenes.
Most features in SQ42 are in SC. In fact they test somethings in SQ42 first like master modes. SC is just obviously more massive more ships etc.
Also if you are already SC pledged when getting SQ42 its just a $15 add on.
There are also huge updates that were covered at the con this weekend which are also going into SC.
As far as SC it’s a game that won’t technically be finished. Yes there are goals but it will continually be updated and features added. Chris has said this from the start.
As far as frames optimization is last but even in SC over the years you can feel improvement.
Also I know SC and SQ42 gets heat because of funding and time. But this is a crowdfund project where they are extremely open with us. A lot of times they will publicly say things that are just concepts and ideas so of course it takes time and you can see delays. Some of it may even get scrapped. People fail to see many games go through many years of development but you only know of them last as most of it is kept under wraps unlike SC and SQ42. Also a lot of funding has gone to expanding the studio etc. they basically have created their own engine. On their site they have funding breakdowns. Basically here you are seeing everything that happens in game dev vs other games most of it is out of public view.
I know it’s a lot but I suggest ppl check out the whole con. A lot of great info there and great things coming. Including server meshing. They finally have a working test of it and the plan will be SC will introduce this and instead of 100ish players per server how it is now all players will see each other and play together through meshing. They will be the first to introduce this in gaming at this scale.
Also at the end right after this video finished (not seen here) when Chris Roberts got emotional I think you can see how much he cares and wants to deliver.
Squadron 42 hasn't been in the store for a while now. Expect it to be $60 or $70 when they make it available again, for those who haven't already purchased it.
@@GUNNER67akaKelt maybe / maybe not. We will see . Last it was listed was $15 add-on and $45 standalone. Nothing has been said of that changing yet from what I know.
@@xKingLeonidas300x Yep, nothings been said. But I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.
Just for some context, Bethesda started work on Starfield the same time that CIG started work on Star Citizen and Squadron 42. Now Star Citizen is a long way from being released, but it is also an open world multiplayer sandbox with no in game loading screens. Squadron 42 has not been in the same open development as Star Citizen so we don’t know the exact state of the game or how long it will be before release. That being said what was shown was actual gameplay and some cut scenes all done inside the game engine.
For anyone complaining about the Frame Rate: it looks like IGN's video is a much lower framerate than the Official one on Star Citizen's YT page.
Indeed
It's Star Citizen though
@@Hhhh22222-w No it is SQ42 which plays on a single PC, SC is an mmo that has bad hitching due to the servers always being pushed to the max with entities that is why server meshing which they just demonstrated Saturday is so important to SC.
@@Hhhh22222-w That'll get cleaned up over time, it already has gotten better when i started playing getting 20 fps was rare now I can get 70+ fps especially if its on a low populated server. (And I only have a gtx 1080 so no where near top of the line)
Well, even if it is S42, the game will pass now for the polishing fase and most likely they will optmize the game properly.
For people that don't already know, both Henry Cavill and Andy Serkis are also a part of the stacked cast in Star Citizen.
Bro whaat? Source
@churros724 Henry Cavill was confirmed a long time ago and Andy Serkis is the one doing the Vanduul (aliens) animations.
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It would have been so fun to have someone with Asmon to answer the questions he had, because most of the stuff is already known and could have been answered.
asmon has to watch the star engine tech demo, its pretty much a summary of all the innovation from the last 10 years
Hell yeah, imagine the shock!
Really hope he checks out star engine demo which really demonstrates what this new engine is capable of.
It's amazing...Answers his question about loading screens. ~0.
@@1183newman Even the StarEnine vid is a little dated. They showed even better stuff in some of the other shorter vids. Like the water and Maelstrom demos are ALREADY better than what they show in the StarEngine vid.
@@warheartwarheart5389 Yes. I didn't say they weren't. Reread. I said they were updated AFTER the video was made. In the StarEngine vid when the Gladius crashed in the structure, you didn't see any splashes from the debris hitting the water. Later, in the Maelstrom demo, there were splashes from the debris.
Y'all know, this game reminds me of the good old days, when every triple A titles actually had this level of mind blowing details... Nowadays triple A standard sounds more like a joke, vary same idea apply to movie industries and Japanese anime production. This is the reason why I stick to the development of CIG games, and I truely wish this to become the standard for future big titles.
I don't recall the last time a AAA has this level of detail any examples?
@@tabarnacus5629 Red redemption2(but that's a rarity
@@nepenthy9804 yeah some studios still make good games like rockstar, naughty dogs, CDPR, nintendo or from software
they know they will sell well even if they take time to develop and don't release a game for 10 years
also bethesda in a way but even with 10 years their games are meh
And people still shit on them
A game doing what we always wanted, backed by gamers
And grown "men" still shit their nappies daily about it 😂
@@Tenkin42 games like cyberpunk2077, last of us 2 are nice, but they came out with some flaws, making you wonder what if there could be a game that launches with perfection
I *really* hope we get to make fun of all the people calling Star Citizen a scam in a few years
Been doing it for years already lol
Watching that actually made me feel passionate about gaming again, like how I was when I was a little kid, reminded me of when I used to want to make games. The quality of the game looks like it's there. It really does look like the most next gen game that I've seen in a long time. My hope is that it feels how it looks.
It's really the only next gen game in the making
In my opinion the video on Star Citizen's channel looks much better than the video on IGN. I don't know if I'm tripping balls, but that's how it seemed to me.
@@Demozo_ didn't watch the IGN version but the SC one in 4k is peak gaming experience, can't wait to have it on my PC (for the updated price because I foolishly figured I'd have time before they entered polish)
@@THEDARKILLERS46 gta 6 as well
I had some experience with Motion Capture and gotta say this game has got some seriously fluid and cool character animations, movement and fight choreography - something that wasn't so obvious for the shooters in the past. Remids me of iconic Unreal Tournament 3. Ps. You almost saw me as Leon in these new Resident Evil games :)
They built a full mocap studio just for this game, Andy Serkis consulted with them to set it up. (He also plays a character in the game)
@@dekulruno iirc, they started with Imaginarium for all the S42 story mocap, and later built their own studio to do clean up and expand the library. Both make sense since Serkis' place is top tier cutting edge, but must also be booked non-stop with all the Hollywood movies hes involved in. Kind of like how Jackie Chan has his own stunt team. With the SC guys, not having to wait 3 months for a booking to do like a half days work must had been worth the investment.
@@freelancerthe2561 All those acts are Chris Roberts friends for your information. Also, Henry Cavill is in it and he asking CIG to be put in it.
no way near to what Naughty Dog , Santa Monica , Quantic Dreams or Guerilla Games had achieved in that field !
@@freelancerthe2561 Hi, thanks so much for this feedback.
Wait until he finds out there really are no load screens and you can indeed fly from space to a planet and land seamlessly with no cutscenes. I wish he would have watched the tech demo too.
Problem with that is that it takes forever to get anywhere.
@@GhullieUsernot really, the quantum travel can get you from space to around 10ks from the ground in a few seconds but you can fly in manually if you want
@GhullieUser it's a space game mate, there's a LOT of SPACE between planets. I for one love the size of the Stanton system at the moment. Can't wait till Pyros gets released.
@@GhullieUser with the new update you can quantum jump anywhere as long as you fly good
we will see. what will be in the final released game, and what will be left to the tech demos and videos. starfield and cyberpunk2077 promised a lot beforehand. pretty much nothing was implemented what was hyped beforehand.
i already don't like how there wasn't different talking alien species - lack of ambition? just a space shooter?
Im so excited for this to come out. It looks freaking incredible! Plus, it has an outstanding roster of talented actors and actresses with Gary Oldman, Mark Hamill, John Ryhs-Davies, Henry Cavill, Gillian Anderson, Mark Strong, Sandi Roberts and Liam Cunningham among many others! You dont assemble a cast like that for a scam. I really think this is going to be something truly special and i hope it is!
Squadron 42 is the intro into Star Citizen. After completing the campaign, you transition into the MMO of Star Citizen. Thats the intent. So now that the features needed are complete, they can give us the SP experience while they finish the MMO.
Just to clarify, you don’t need to have played SQ42 to jump into SC. But the campaign from SQ42 is part of your SC Characters backstory. And will have some perks from it as well.
@@Getz2oo3 The UEE (United Empire of Earth) has a "Service Guarantees Citizenship" governmental model. Being a citizen (earned through service in the SQ42 campaign) is supposed to grant some in-game perks in Star Citizen; but, it is not necessary to be a citizen for most things. It'll mostly just be a faction perk boost, along with access to rewards ported over from achievements in the Squadron 42 campaign.
You can earn the F8C Lightning by completing SQ42! Thats $250 ship for the $45 to $75 SQ42 will cost.
@@rumrunner8260you only earn the right to buy one, you don't actually get the ship itself
@@rumrunner8260 you only get access to buy one in game, you don’t get the F8C in your hangar or anything like that.
There literally isn't a loading screen at all once playing in SC. It's truly amazing what they're creating
Correction: There is one loading screen when you get out of prison
Ofcourse it's taken them 10 years and 600 million dollars to make.
@@LuisPerez-5$600 million funded. They haven't spent every dollar of it as it comes in. Clearly they have some capital if they're able to build studios and acquire companies.
@@LuisPerez-5 why are you so mad about star citizen man xD
@@Lessk69 So they have used 600+ million dollars to do all of what you have said.
From what I understand squadron 42 has been in development along side the multiplayer universe. Which is also why the multiplayer portion has been slower to develop as it’s not priority. Hopefully once squadron 42 is polished and complete then that team will move over to the multiplayer side and maybe we will see the development take off.
Yep, that's the deal.
They bounced back and forth until recently where they decided to do the single player first.
This awesome citizenCon was them showing all the features they had done for squadron. They are now switching over to delivering them to Star Citizen. Polish is still needed for squadron but I expect them to start switching real soon. Base building development announced as starting q1 2024, and that's no small task.
80% of the team was working on SQ42 all this time so most of what SC was getting were hand-me-downs. Now that it's in polish phase, most of those people can move to working on SC.
But all assets coming in too and the gameplay they developed :D
Exactly, it wouldn't make sense for them to try and add assets/gameplay to the multiplayer universe before the single player game as a matter of simplicity and proving how it should look/work. I also think SQ42 is meant as a advertisement and measuring stick for what their in-house technologies like the mocap and Star Engine can do so they can start taking on outside projects
For anyone that doesn't know. Squadron 42 was always part of the plan. It was meant to be the "introduction to the PU (persistent universe) that is Star Citizen", such that when the game ends you enter the PU. I assume this is still the case.
It's also likely that the technology and assets that they are making for SQ42 will appear in SC; so, it's not one or the other.
Bingo!
that... explains why our characters have the physique of a Soldier from the start
The team deserve this win. I know a few of them and they say that it's the first studio they've ever been in where everyone has a passion for the project. I'm sure they'll pull it off.
I follow this project since 2011. Passion and Love are the first two words, that come into my mind remembering all the weekly developer vlogs and tech shows from all these years.
@@tobytoxd CR is after this we a good guy for me. Sure we all can tell bad things about the company in itself but scince I follow the project in 2019 I hadnt had the feeling of scam at all and started backing at patch 3.16 and at 3.17 I waited for 3.18 :D I want it to succeed and the devs working their alhave fun I love it.
Being able to act on that passion is so rare in the industry, let them cook as long as possible
@@const2499Ah, great to hear! I just posted a quote on Roberts and a hint to an interview with Mark Hamill above. Look what a great guy like him has to say about CR :)
Mark Hamill: "The advantage here was Chris Roberts. I had such a good time working with him and not only he's a wizard of all things involving games, but he's a great director and a great friend. And really when he asked me, I didn't even have to read the script, I just jumped out. I really wanted to work with him again." - RUclips video: Mark Hamill on Star Citizen, Wing Commander and Star Wars. Channel: PC GAMER
PC Gamer talks to Mark Hamill about his work on Star Citizen's 'Squadron 42' module, his career, fandom and more. (2017)
Having played Wing Commander, Privateer, Strike Commander and Freelancer which all blew me away like nothing else at that time in terms of immersion, for me personally Roberts is the greatest creative of space flight simulation games.
@@const2499 backed at 3.16 as well. Those were the golden days. Getting the org together to try and either hold Jumptown or take it from whoever it was.. My god. Just absolutely perfect gaming experience, despite the bugs.
After supporting Star Citizen for years, I'm glad that things are finally starting to pay off! Excited to see it come back to the mainstream through Squadron 42!
I wouldnt call a popular streamer reacting to a trailer a "comeback to the mainstream". Nevermind the fact that we still dont have any garantees that the game is even being developed anymore
one can hope after 10+ years . Hope it is not another "star field".
I backed the game because of of SQ42, not the Virtual world of Star Citizen. At least I'll be happy CIG can present a near perfect single player experience. Probably take another 2-3 years of polish and optimization.
Star Field feels like 2 gen behind just from graphics and mocap alone.
Still probably 100+ GB installation with this level of graphics
Bro...wait until the game ACTUALLY releases - CIG has done ***nothing*** to earn a picogram of trust from the gaming community - ESPECIALLY their backers...
We held the line
@@wugira76 the citizencon event this year says otherwise as this is literally new footage from this year also go watch the Star Engine demo as it show cases all the new stuff they have been working on, they have said that most of the features shown that are NOT ingame yet will be coming to the PU in the next 12 months more or less.
As there were speculations about it: "Squadron 42" is the Single-Player-Campaign of Star Citizen and they both share the same "technologies" and probably most vehicles.
When it was first announced, you bought the Campaign with the access to Star Citizen - they later decoupled it.
It was always very clear that both would be developed alongside each other, most ressources went into Squadron 42, after the tech and Infrastructure (Company) had been/is being developed.
You could see Star Citizen as the Multiplayer part of Squadron 42.
Yes, and hopefully them pouring most resources in S42 doesn't come back to bite them. Seems like the campaign will be great, but if they never figure out server meshing or aren't able to produce enough satisfying gameplay for the PU I think the majority of their patrons will not be thrilled.
That's the problem with putting so much emphasis on selling ships when they turn around and mostly use that money for a mode where they won't be available..
@@Achilles374 Thats a misdirect. Consider the following..... if the MMO side has limited servers, whats the point of putting all the resources toward that? Imagine having a massive star system with thousands of POIs..... and the server still only runs at 10 ticks with 50 players logged in to share all that space.
Get the single player game out the door so people stop bitching about it, while waiting on server improvements to run stuff at passable performance. Then when the servers work better, go churn out a bunch of content for it without it dying constantly.
And at this point, its not a question of "if" they get the servers working. Its only a question of how its gonna take them. They've already done the widely proclaimed "literally impossible" three times now..... so I stopped bothering to question the "ifs" involved. My bigger question now is "why can't a "competent studio" do this, and do it faster?" when 5 of the most popular multiplayer games could all benefit from the same kind of modular loadshare system a niche sandbox game is doing.
@@Achilles374 thing about the PU is its focused towards a player driven experience, if its a content focused and hand held experience like virtually every other game = gets old fast, like any MMO, people want the next expansion, content release with new raids, dungeons, bosses and drops etc... which they grind for months, because what else is there to do? were gambling addiction is the primary reason players remain committed despite your average MMO content wise remains very much in alpha state of development when you think about it, just bug free as what u can do in your typical MMO is limited....
the PU isnt supposed to played this way, or so limited in what you can do or restricted by content as your only activity = the idea is to yes provide you content to do, but your core experience and what you do, what ultimately happens to make it fun will often involve random and player driven experiences / interactions and nock on effects not directly aimed at you, using the tools provided and content as catalyst to triggering many of these experiences...
as already is the case when you drop into the PU and why many drop in, despite the lack of available content / features and despite the lag / bugs when it does work = its a wonderful experience despite again the lack of content / features... and the fact you can have so much fun, with so little there to work with, it not hard to see why folks become optimistic for the future, as every new feature and new tool to increase what players can do as the choose... expands the possibilities and possible fun to be had, absent the dependency to more traditional content and its grind to extend its shelf life, with rewards to making what otherwise is a brain dead experience, worth doing... again not what the PU is intended emulate.
also...
most the assets/tech for sq42 are designed for the PU (same engine, just SP mode vs MMO mode, shared assets, AI etc etc), this includes most the core ships, so like the sequence showing the 2nd fleet = all ships intended to be in the PU and player flyable, some of which already are which u can fly like the hammerhead, were others may be exterior implemented and AI piloted for special events etc, but wont be player piloted and interior implemented until after sq42 releases like the idris, which will be player flyable when sq42 drops alongside other ships that are rdy for PU release, but wont release until sq42 drops, alongside allot of other stuff likewise so sq42 will be the first wow moment players have when seeing and experiencing it, before it migrates to the PU for the MMO experience.
so essentially 90% of the $$$ and time put into sq42 = PU development as well, the main diference is the PU needs the server meshing and backbone fully implemented to support the MMO aspect, which is not required for a SP experience.
its no diferent then 1 game releasing with a SP and MP mode, but instead of releasing the 1 game with the SP and MP at the same time, they separated them, so backers could access the developmental build for the MMO side of things to see progress was being made = PU, while the core teams focused on the SP aspect as a standalone polished AAA release and could keep key aspects under wraps as to not spoil the experience for release, but were other things can be droped into the PU when rdy for implementation for MMO side of things or testing related, were things like the idris will be flyable in the PU after sq42 drops for example...
food for thought.
So, for example. In Star Citizen you buy ships with real money. If S42 is single player, does that mean you can buy every ship with in-game money?
@@Achilles374 They have server meshing functional and pending implementation in Star citizen this year. The next patch adds the final piece for it to work and have demoed it live
If this is a scam, it is the worst scam in history because the amount of work, stress, blood, sweat and tears they put into this scam dwarfs most non-scam human endeavours.
If this was a scam, they wouldve stopped posting updates about 10 years ago after the kickstarter lol
Perfectly said.
if squadron 42 is not good as we have seen in the video than the sci-fi genre is fucked sadly, so it must be perfect realized. I hope.
They didn't show just SOME gameplay, most of it was gameplay. Like the cutscene where the camera is moving through the cockpit towards the dead pilot was gameplay. You can even see "F to Interact" pop up on the Pilot's body that's just how smoothe 0G movement was.
Those who don't understand the polishing phase is the 3rd to last step sometimes 2nd to last step before launch this is usually done in tangent with optimization and so on, however the first year is often heavily focused on correcting areas that are not up to par with the standard set as we saw with the knife in the neck scene in the single player campaign among some other areas that were lacking and that is usually the focus to bring different areas up to par. As each section finishes that area they move into optimization and that I will be honest I do not expect many machines to run as it's always been designed for the bleeding edge in technology. Some mid-high end systems will probably be able to play on lower settings but don't count mid and low ends systems being able to do much if at all.
As asmongold mentioned optimization usually happens within the last year of development and around that time a launch date is given as well.
They are in the end of the cycle of the game and not giving a set date is a good idea. Often companies will spend a one or two years on the polishing phase which bleeds into the optimization phase and technically launch phase near the end of that period. It is likely that we will receive a launch date near the end of next year as most the devs started polishing months ago when it was rumored for it to be feature complete. It is even possible that we may receive one earlier closer to the middle but I do think around October that would be the case and expect a launch in 2025, my guess would be near the end of 2025 however they can always move it forward.
If something goes wrong then I would suspect a 2026 release date instead that.
If somehow everything goes perfectly in some god tier manner you could expect a launch end of 2024 but I find it quite unlikely as that's barley enough time to polish and optimize and considering the scale and I believe if i remember it being open or semi open world then it needs that time to do a proper set of pass overs with QA.
They know they cannot fuck this up at all and I will suspect launch to be rough regardless it's very difficult to never have something happen for launch no matter the title something usually happens or shortly after launch.
Either way this is massive to see considering how long its been in development being not too far behind most triple A development studios the average game takes 7-8 years from concept to finish and sequel take 3-5 years depending on scale and so on.
This also means since they are near the end that more resources will be poured into Star Citizen which is the multiplayer persistent universe that yes has been shown more love within the last year and by next year will receive a ton more love and progress something many have been waiting for and I do not blame them.
Thing is most of the work and setbacks were strictly because of the game engine.
Cry Engine has a plethora of issues but in 2012 there wasn't anything better and so came the long overhauling process of the entire engine something amazon was working on for many years and released their lumberyard engine in 2016 which basically restarted the project they are now taking the amazon lumberyard engine and modifying it further and especially the backend for netcode and so on being a complete catastrophe among other things add on feature creep because the backers wanted them to go wild with development and well we are here today.
I honestly give them props and props for working on a technology that has mainly been theorized and never tried, something that recently in 2017 one other company attempted and so far has not been very successful with and so even seeing the start of it functioning is impressive along with many other software's and things that previously didn't really exist or didn't exist to such a scale.
People really don't understand the complexity of something in this scale, chris roberts has been a very ambitious man even back in wing commanders days under Microsoft and it's been something that has been a long time coming and seeing him being closer to reaching his goal is definitely something the man was very emotional on stage at the very end and even cried when he first saw server meshing function. I don't think people realize how big of a success that is alone to accomplish and props to Spatial OS for being another pioneer of that technology even if they haven't been successful yet, because it is nothing something easy nor cheap to accomplish and if it moves from static to dynamic in some manner it would absolutely be a massive breakthrough for MMOs across the globe and not just for games but for many other unrelated professions.
Right, when some people hear "polishing phase" they think it is like polishing your car. So not much work left. But the truth is the polishing phase needs a lot of work and goes much deeper. If some part of the game is no fun or not enough fun, a whole level could be changed.
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@@Hoto74 yea polishing in this context is more getting the pain mixxed right then slowly painting then let layer dry then add the protective coating and then polish buffing
My understanding is the game is developed (for the most part) in SQ42 and when a feature is proven there, It will be shifted over to SC. There are a bunch of features about to move over to SC.
Right, the last years SQ42 had the priority in development, so Content where developed for SQ42 first and then they come over to SC. That's why SC didn't show so much progress, even when in the studios internally much more is already ready for SC. And also many features and content depending on the server meshing technology. Before that is not ready enough they can't build it into SC. Server meshing is a so important technology for SC and if it works it has the potential to change MMOs and Online Worlds for ever.
Squadron 42 has been part of the design from the beginning, I still have my Squadron 42 shirt from the kickstarter 10 years ago. At this point if I get any complete game I'll be happy.
I was doing a watch party of the citizencon with my org. I swear we were like kids for the two days it lasted. There not even a bit of filler content and it was all quite advanced in development, recorded in-engine. Then, the SQ42 announcement was just the icing on the cake.
Same for me bro! So exited.
if this game delivers its gonna be another bg3 situation where a game genre got such a big and good hit it elevates the genre to a new level.
Chris Roberts already planned ahead, this is precisly WHY, Star Citizen is such a big deal.
Also, i belive that BECAUSE of Star Citizen, the situation of Sq42 is even more akin to Halo 2 situation, when the game came out folks already knew what expect from the game in terms of gameplay, the only question now are technical aspects and the story in the game.
@@efxnews4776 I would argue for like 80% of games people already have a pretty good idea what to expect from the gameplay before it releases.
No.
Really good to see people have an honest reaction to this, awesome going from the social outcast of believing in this game passionately over the years and it's starting to pay off.
Also to note, Squadron 42 is their main game they've been planning since the start. Star Citizen is everything and more that the backers wanted. A lot of the ship packages came with the Squadron 42 and Star Citizen license, so if you were an og backer you got to look forward to Squadron 42 all these years lol
In the past year SC development has sped up so much its scary. As a software dev myself, im glad to see them finally getting it together because a project such as this in game dev I can imagine has been hell.
It's worth hopping in on a free fly weekend. The game is huge and needs powerful hardware but you can get a feel for the game free of charge once every couple of months just find a buddy or a subscriber that'll let you fly their ships around for an hour or two...(also the learning curb is kinda stupid)
I dont recommend anyone testing star citizen except you are prepared for an extremly unfinished game and also want to test that unfinished game.
If you go in casually you will hate it.
Star citizen game experience is not good enough to recommend anyone trying it with the intent of saying it highlights what squadron 42 will be. They are two very different games.
Agreed, I'm sure there's an admiral in his fanbase who would love to show him the cooler ships around today.
@@only1kleimthey are different games, but also very similar. Set in the same universe, sharing parts of the map, sharing ships, flight mechanics, etc. So while yes they are different genres they are also still similar enough to understand the tech. It would answer his loading screen question at least :p and I don't think it's worth streaming.
Fair, but honestly enough is there that you get a feel for the day to day of what is going to be an MMO. If you discount the bugs and still don't like the game play loop on a small scale (aka how looooong it takes to do most anything.) Then you probably won't like it once the scale of some of these tasks is exponentially more involved.
I really hope they manage to launch this to great success. I wouldn't mind a Chris Roberts redemption arc.
Redemption? Hes already done so much for mmo tech, people are just impatience, you cant create an entirely exporable universe in under a decade, people need to realise that.
Dudes literally leading the entire industry and people are still Pretending he owes them something 😂
He was never in disgrace
To be fair, a lot of the hate is old backlash from old refund policies CIG has long since amended, and people just don't know how to let shit go.
@@alfiedefreitas6860 if there is one thing that SC taught me, it is patience - i used to sit 8h ingame, waiting for people to pirate near ArcL1 ( mining locations ingame) and just do study stuff while waiting
Also, yes, Squadron 42 was always going to take precedence over Star Citizen and they stated from the beginning that Squadron 42's success would determine Star Citizen's ultimate success.
Both tech demos are already funded. CIG just wants more money and all those "optimizations" are just a marketing scheme for you, the fans to throw them even more money.
@@FutaCatto2i mean if it really was that wouldn't they allow pre orders now for SQ42, cause i cant find any, and im talking STRICTLY for SQ42
That's due to UK law. They used to sell the game, but right now unless you have a release date you can't sell it. So whenever CR decides to give a release date, the game will be up to buy again.@@killer205568
@@killer205568 they did pull of the pre order for SQ42, probably because of the new laws that came this year, but the game was still with the old price (from 10 years), now its gonna be full new AAA price for sure
@@FutaCatto2cope harder
To anyone who has not experienced Star Citizen, let me paint you a picture. You launch into the game, get out of the bed you logged out of(yes you can log out in any bed basically) you walk, run or use local forms of transport to get to your ship, if you did not log in at your ship already. You get in your seat, pilot out of the planets/star's atmosphere, meanwhile you pick your destination, you quantum jump to your destination, which can be millions of miles away. You land and go get a beer at the local bar. At no point in time do you experience a loading screen. And yes it has rovers, come on, it's nowhere near as jank as Starfield.
Been a Star Citizen Backer since 2013/2014. There's been many ups and many, many, MANY downs. This made me so happy! If they release in the next year or two I'll be the happiest nerd ever!
same man, i dont think when we backed we knew everything had to be done from scratch, but i am glad they did and stuck to it, and it is finally showing that all the effort and tech put into sq42 was really meant for both sc and sq42. i feel good about my backing now more than ever. just saddens me to see the hate that some have towards it, i mean if it was a scam its a lousy one with all the hired devs and studios forming, education grants and internships.
I'd project SQ42 released at next years CitCon. Seems logical to me. Beta in Q3 of 2024.
I watched the kickstarter launch party in 2012 with all the guys sitting around a table. Chris, Sandi (at the time we didnt know she was his wife ), Wingman and a f ew more including LAMP! It was a great night!
I think some portion of the negative comments saying it's a scam are probably just joking at this point. Saying scamcitizen, or whatever, has kind of become a meme. But at the end of the day it does not matter, and it won't matter once this comes out. All that will matter then is, is it a good game?.. and the riggies will melt away with egg on their faces@@aviator2252
@@brandonerwin7031 I was thinking more of something like : They give a release date next citizencon and game will probably be out Q1 2025, that would be dope
I drove the Scam Citizen bus for a while, but followed it till it was in a must better play state. The way I looked at it, I tried a free fly and enjoyed it enough to buy a basic starter package. It was 45 bucks. That's cheaper than the failed games I lost my money on that were released...some of the COD titles, Anthem, etc. That was 60 + dollars down the drain. This is in development and has it's share of bugs, but I find what is readily available to play, a lot of fun...especially with an org. The starter package is all you have to buy after that, you can earn your ships in game. You don't have to spend hundreds of dollars on ships unless you want to support the game. Those who can't basically player test an alpha state game should stay away from it.
i think the single biggest key to having fun long term in sc's current state is finding an org, or at least a consistent group of people to play with. ideally once we get closer to full release solo play will be better than now, but as it stands you really do need some buddies.
Some ppl dont understand what they doing there.
Squadron 42 is the Singleplayer / Campaign for Star Citizen (PU)
They Focused 80% of the 1300 devs on the Singleplayer, getting Tech done, Ships, Stations Planets and so on.
Those Tech will now transfer into the MMO Star Citizen, meanwhile Devs also Developing new Tech for the Univers.
0 Loadingscreens, Maps interactive over all scales, full control over shipdoors modules and so much more.
All those tech wasnt there and still isnt on the open Marked. This Team made completly new unseen tech.
Ppl have no clue how huge all this is.
Also Server Mesching, the Tech Demo they showed, no other Company in the world archived this, if they get this whole thing Dynamic its dmn awsome.
Yes the game takes for Ever, 10 Years alrady, but they build up Tech from scratch, not seen.
And Just for Scale, Red Dead Redemption 2 Cost beetween 370 - 540 Million and took them OVER 8 Years.
Star Citizen is building a whole universe as MMO with tons of Gameplayloops.
Ppl just cant handle Open development with all Pros and Cons, and that they dont show hours of Real gamplay im happy, i want to experience the game and not want to see hours of Gampeplay before the game is out.
Same with Ashes of Creations, they show the development process and ppl cry about, scream scam couse they dont handle it like Cyberpunk which hypes and cant deliver or Starfield.
Also Teams like Ashes or Star Citizen are try to listen to the community, which leads to rethink things and develope them different.
Other teams give a s. and your ending up with something you may not like.
What i saw those 2 days at Citizen Con was dmn awsome, from gamplay view and from Tech view.
And to all those who cry about FPS.
Optimizing a Game is with the Polishing the last things a dev team dos.
Cry about it if it is still bad after Release, same for the Universe, its a Alpha not a finished released and optimized game.
It was CPU Heavy, and for those who didnt watched citizen con, they alrady work on it with changing some of the workload from CPU to GPU.
Grüße
Last time I played I averaged 90 fps with everything maxed, just don't go in with a potato it's not a console port.
@@tabarnacus5629 i7-13700k + 32bg Ram + RTX 3070. I get about 40fps in cities and 80ish in space. When was the last time you played?
@@dundukk9450 its not a gameplay trailer. Its an update with an honest look at how the game is going. If you are not capable to process that, idk what to tell you.
@@dundukk9450 so you just confirmed you have no clue about development and that performance is one of the last things.
Also like mentioned, red dead redemption also cost up to 500 million and took over 8 years till release.
Star citizen is building two games, own engine, own tech.
Other company’s buying tech and using it with all the pros, cons and limitations.
That you don’t understand what that mean and get sad, is a you problem.
whats crazy is the people who where smart and pre ordered it long ago only paid $45
what this dev team has been accomplishing tech wise is pretty insane. itd be cool to see more Star Citizen / S42 from Asmon
what’s insane is that people still don’t realize this is a scam, most funded game of all time and its an MTX fest with nothing else to show for it
@@babyjiren9676have you even tried to play Star Citizen or have you just joined the hate mob. The game itself is very well done and in a very playable state with many things to do more than every other space sim game to date. With the only exception being now after it's horrendous and also supposed scam launch that was no man's sky.
@@babyjiren9676proof you never ever even tried the alpha. But lets just repeat what some random ass youtuber said on a video
@@babyjiren9676 2014 argument.
@@babyjiren9676 Oh good, another troll whose existence is pointless. Well actually, your role here is to make CIG care more. So far you are doing a good job, so keep at it!
Afaik Squadron 42 was always promised as the single player campaign of Star Citizen. Looking at this, then think about Starfield, it's like... damn, Bethseda really dropped the ball.
For people that don't know In the Starcitizen Public Universe (Pre-Alpha , broken/bugged builds) we have been able to seamlessly travel & land from Space Station to planets. There are biomes, landing zones, outposts. They get better and better every year with no loading screen involved inbetween and no teleport either. Now we have persistent (albeit buggy that being fixed) where I left my gun (because i died) in a cave somewhere in the verse and I was able to go back there after hours and get the gun back (had cool colours ahah).
This is essentially the single player Lore story of the SC PU MMO. They just finished the features on it. But polish, FPS engine Optimisations, bug clearing are still need to be done. So this is not their final release trailer, but just announcing they just finished the features on it!
For those asking about Star Citizen: remember that the original pitch was a single player/coop wing commander successor, with a multiplayer Freelancer-style open world post-game.
As it was funded the project expanded and scope creep happened, but Squadron 42 is the original pitch, and it’s incredible that we’re actually going to get to play it after all this time.
It's 10 years later
@@nkdohertyGood things take time.
And how the hell do find my original kickstarter pledge for a new wing commander game?!
Many said that having a sim game as an MMO would be impossible as the server meshing would be an impossible task, but they demoed server meshing. The engine is more valuable than the game, and the game is over a half a billion in funding.
Backer since 2014. I can't wait for this to really bloom.
Already spent a few hundred hours in Star Citizen mining explosive quantanium, doing mercenary work, getting put in prison for failing, stealing other peoples ships, watching my friend fly off in space because the ship turret was blown off and couldn't find him since the early UI years ago didnt have indicators, doing events when rep just got implemented and getting stuff added to my account permanently showing i've done it. Seeing someone fight the spacestation's defenses while all the bullets fly in the air with tracer rounds, ramming someone at max speed while they were trying to stop me from leaving the station and us both blowing up, getting baited into a cave area and getting hit by rockets, doing a 2v1 and forcing one of them to quantum jump before they die, ect. It's been a fun ride.
The singleplayer is also functioning as a practice exercise for a lot of things in multiplayer, forcing them to go 'gold standard' on ships needed for SQ42. I hope they take the time to get it right. "A delayed game is eventually good, a rushed game is forever bad."
sahit is still two years away. it's always two years away,
Wow I’m getting this once it releases. This gave me that Wing Commander vibe probably since Mark Hamill is in it.
Chris is the creator of Wing Commander. This and SC are his passion projects.
Yes, you can land without a loading screen. There is nothing like Star Citizen which is both single player Squadron 42 and MMO of Star Citizen Persistent Universe. Appreciate you covering the project we all love so much and hope to see you in the Verse.
That's the problem. Star Citizen's only claim to fame is no loading screens. Otherwise it's graphics are starting to show their age. Starfield with Texture mods destroys Star Citizen's graphics.
Starfield is built on an aging engine from the Fallout series of games and having put 120ish hours into Starfield I can say without significant modding it is not great in the graphics department. The look, score, exploration, and weaponplay are quite good but after two thourough playthroughs I am just more playing around with mods now trying to get more out of the game and hoping for a DLC soon. Squadron 42 has the Persistent Universe which is already online which is a multi-player experience of all the single player gameplay that is in Squadron 42, between both games there is far more replayability. On the point specifically on grafics I recommend checking out the CitizenCon panel on the updates to the rendering engine across many topics to see where SC is going. @@gorganhorn6872
@@gorganhorn6872 "With texture mods". Fucking lol. Why is it Starfield can't be complimented in a sentence without the addition of the word 'mods'?
@@gorganhorn6872Starfield with texture mods is putting makeup on a turd.
@@gorganhorn6872 you have no clue.
This looks like what i expected Starfield to be, but wasnt.
"If this is a scam, they sure did put a lot of work into it". Truer words have never been spoken.
SC had been a Ponzi pyramid scheme since 2012/2013 !
That‘s a great way to put it. Plus since one of their bigger studios is in Germany I don’t feel bad about spending a bit more on funding the game. Am German myself :P
Multiple alien races in the game, the Vanduul (aliens at the end) are the main threat in Squadron 42. Game looks incredible
correction: we do not know if there are more than Vanduuls in Squadron 42. There are more alien races planned for Star Citizen though. Just to make this clear.
Huge SC nerd here. The frames will improve drastically in the near future both in SC and SQ42. The graphics team at CIG has, in the most recent SC build (Graphics team is the same for SQ and SC) removed all Gen11 code and we now have all Gen12. They"re currently working on integrating the Vulcan API as well as their own version of TTSS (Turing Texture Space Shading) which will not only improve frames but allow them to integrate VR support in the likely distant future.
ok now this looks very very intriguing i have always wanted a futuristic war game like this where we fly space ships in combat and it has foot combat and a very good story to it
I feel bad for the hater who will never get to play it as they made up their opinion and will miss this masterpiece.
Console jockeys who have no idea what game dev really is and what it takes to make something that pushes every envelope.
still i bet they're all waiting for GTA 6 and i'm pretty sure it's been in development for as long as SC/SQ42@@vidblitz
Listen to me, Ilove SC but skepticism is legitimate
@@thesupreme8062 It is, but only up to a certain point. At this point it is extremely improbable (just not to use the word impossible) that this is indeed a scam. Such claim would have been legitimate until a few years ago, when there was really a major setback to dev and there was very little stuff to do in the playable alpha. Holding skepticism is okay, but to hold it until the exact game before release is simply plain stupid at this point. A lot of people (including me) dont like the way Chris handleded the project, which is the real reason why this game is late with development and his choices and broken promises are bad and the he got shiitted upon by the internet and expected, yet he is now here presenting SQ 42. Bad choices and bad management happened and no one defends him, but still claiming "its a scam" is to be mentally stuck in 2018, plain and simple.
its an unplayable trash :D
I've been so spoiled watching this game (plus SC) and CIG as a whole develop. It's been long (but not actually that long considering what they've had to build), but full of entertainment and interest along the way. Very happy I backed it. Started with a Kickstarter and like 4 people with a showcase that looked like it could have been an early Xbox 360 game. Now they've got 1300 people in 5 studios across 4 countries, and some of the best talent and tech in the world.
I'm excited to see what the future holds and I'm glad there's at least one game dev trying to push the envelope. Fame or fail, I'm glad they're giving it a shot.
the actor cast is actually incredible. and the game looks pretty great too so good to know they didnt just waste the budget on movie stars instead of the developement
The company (CIG) has made well over $500mill since they started work on the game (SQ42 and Star Citizen) so they have a lot of budget to play with.
Some from private investment but mostly from crowdfunding initially and then from pre sales of SQ42 and ship sales from Star Citizen(huge amount from ship sales).
CR is wannabe director. He was actually involved in the production of Lords of War. Had to give up his Hollywood dreams when he got sued for fraud.
@@mbg4681 He was producer on several movies. He wasn't they only one in that suit, so don't make it sound like it was all on him.
@@GUNNER67akaKelt >> so don't make it sound like it was all on him.
If his own behaviour isn't all on him, then who is it on?
I been playing since early 2017 when you couldn't enter Crusader, when Levski and Delamar for that matter were still in the Stanton system and I can say for a that SC and S42 have made huge strides in content.
Seeing the amazing work they've done with Star Citizen, Squadron 42 is going to be industry-changing.
I'm so excited for them. I'm stoked for the players as well, but Chris Roberts and CIG have been through absolute hell in terms of how the media and gamers in general have reacted to the game and funding model. I can't imagine how vindicated they must feel right now with the outpouring of support, and how great it's going to feel when they finally launch this thing. I also can not wait to throw around a few "told you so"s myself lol
@@TimOnTheNet They have definitely received a lot of hate, but as someone who has been part of the community since the only thing you could do was walk around a hangar and look at your ship, the amount of love and support CIG get from the community is unbelievable. Just looking at the money the game has raised is enough to tell that.
And most people that hate it either haven't played it or simply don't understand the monumental task CIG have presented themselves.
Pretty industry changing. Spending $1200 on a ship in a game and having to spend more and wait a decade to buy the story.
Do you know anyone who spent $1200 on a ship that doesn't have a sq42 license? Or better yet, do you know anyone who has a game package that doesn't have a squadron 42 license included in it?@@krad1314
@@krad1314 Except you don't have to spend anything to play Squadron 42 aside from the actual price of the game? Which was $50 last time I checked, pretty good price for a game in today's industry.
Gameplay is all seamless too. Not sure about 42, but star citizen has like no loading screens, it's wild. It's also important to mention this is a whole new engine they are developing and selling to other devs. So they are not just making one game, they are making two and a super powerful engine.
They also intend for Squadron 42 to be a multi-game series as well (continuing the war).
The selling thing is pure speculation right now. I wouldn't go that far and there are many reasons to think that's not feasible.
I'm with Asmon on this - I have not put any money into this, I will not put any money into this until the final product is out and I can play it for myself.
No worries, as backers we make sure you will get the game. And I really hope you will enjoy it then.
Good, that's the responsible thing to do. I hope it's a great game and you enjoy playing it when it releases.
Love how everyone calls it a starfield copy but been in development for 13 years
Remember when starfield was the no mans sky copy? better days.
The amount of people calling this a scam, while the game has had regular updates and showed steady improvements is crazy to me. Starfield was in development for over 10 years and it was a VERY experienced studio.
So it seems the past decade they put most of the dev teams on SQ42 rather than SC. Now that this is feature complete, they'll start shipping features over to SC from SQ42
yeah, i was kinda confused when the day 1 announcements said these features were gonna be in the game within 12 months. i didn't believe it until i heard 42 was actually feature complete
if they actually finished the hardest part of the job, those release windows might actually be fairly believable. still won't hold my breath but man this progress is a little exciting
there were a couple big roadblocks yeah, the persistence and server meshing put the brakes on SC for years. we now have persistence in game, and they just demo'd the server meshing working at CitCon, once that's stable and ingame, there's apparently a ton of content they'll be ready to unload on us.
hell no, its the other way around. their biggest hurdle by far was getting the engine to work in a mmo environment
@@wholesome1844crucifier Why would their struggle in getting the engine to work for an MMO delay their single-player game by a decade? They wouldn't be using any of that in the singleplayer game. Squadron 42 was never releasing parallel with SC, it was always supposed to come before it.
@@CrispyMuffin212 months not hours
Too many people complaining abut the FPS not understanding what "Polishing Stage" means...
Even if the game releases and hits 100/100 ratings there will still be people calling it a scam 🤣
Yep, I think the same. They will even call it "Scam" when they see the credit screens on the end on their own PC monitor. ;D
I gave them money over 10 years ago and have enjoyed Star Citizen ever since, money well spent and I still look forward to the single player Squadron 42
i just love how through all the drama , all the delays , all the technical challenges and all the negativity , the star citizen community never gave up and kept supporting this project. if you think about it , what cgi is trying to make with star citizen was and still a joke in the game dev community because they thought it is not possible to make. but server meshing tec (server magic) has never been closer and will open the door for the making of Mega scale online games in the future. cant wait to see where this journey will take us in another 2 years.
And for all the new people inserted in joining the Universe ,o7 to you and hope you have fun. see you guys in the universe.
CIG has a video demo of functioning Dyanamic Server Meshing in action, if people are interet. While the demo is small in scale, it apparently does scale up. Still some work to go, but it's no longer a 'maybe we can do this', it's now, 'we CAN do this!' It's for real.
I guess you never heard of Dual Universe? That game had dynamic server meshing, and it worked pretty well. There's other examples but that's one of the most known ones.
That being said, dynamic server meshing has it's physical limitations. The reason some engineers say it's not possible in a game like star citizen is due to that. Then they show a video that any university student could pull off and people believe it's working. Problem with that video is that the physical limitations are not present, it's in lan, there's no latency, 3 rooms, etc.
That's the reason that people with knowledge laugh about it, because if they wanted to prove it, this wasn't the way to do it. In fact it's the way to prove the opposite, they even used the common "jump when going through servers" that students used in the past to hide the flaws.
I'm a big SC fan, and I support the project full on, but expectations have to be managed, and I can understand both sides, some don't have education in the matter, others see those and think they are scamming people. I don't think most people are aware of the limitations to such a system. Then you get people like @GUNNER67akaKelt below saying "it scales up". Unless you have it in your hands or see it like DU did in the past, there's no reason to believe it does. Think about it, it would be very easy for them to add a ton of clients and servers together for the demo, there were in fact hundreds of PCs with their builds there, but they chose deliberately not to do it.
Manage your expectations, the tech does exist, it has been done before, has a ton of limitations they have to work around, and they haven't even touched on that so until you get to see or play it working on the PU there's no reason to be hyped about it. Now Pyro on the 31st, even if it's on a separate server, that's something to be hyped about!
@@robinv1485 I was quoting one of the devs who said 'it does scale up'. We'll have to wait and see how it actually works when it's ready.
@@robinv1485 Obviously they have unsolved problems still, hence the small scale demo, but if they don't believe it CAN work then that would seriously suck for the people demoing it on stage who pride themselves on the tech they make.
@@robinv1485what? They also walked and drove trough the server borders
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That is the most planet looking planet I've seen in video gaming. Our planet is very cloudy, and these clouds in SC Squadron 42 are really selling the vibe. It is really good that squadron 42 is being released soon, because this was one of the promised items on their list for a while; And so far, the game is delivering.
The insane part is that by knowing how Star Citizen works you can pretty much say that you can seamless landing in that planet too... God, i'm fkg hyped for this game.
At first glance, did you think that transition to the Manchester shot was in-game engine footage? I think a lot of people did. You know CIG is on point when it becomes difficult to distinguish between reality and in-game.
I guess I was technically correct when I predicted they'd be showing the Sol system
Pretty standard, we've been able to seamlessly swap from cutscene to game since 2010
@@latch9781Sol is basically a ghost town. We'll probably get Terra long before we get Earth, if ever
yeah, its little things like these that make them look shady at times. I wish they would be more aware of these. Unless they are deliberate about it.
@@fffx2not really, it just heavily relies on imports to stay afloat but it’s still got a large population
I'm going to be honest I think this is one of the very feel games if not the only game that I ever saw that made me impressed and feel Next gen, It reminded of several trailers or gameplay of the PS3 when all we had was PS2, I was truly mind-blowing, the details, the scale and graphics feels good.
A good comparison, look for one of the most refined games of PS2 like Cod or metal of Honor, then look for Metal Gear Solid 5 from PS3, doesn't need to be the new one, the PS3 One it's already a good example:
We jumped from a straight line game with fix missions and a graphic that you could tell everything apart and with a good but simple story, just a couple enemies on screen, an ok amount of guns and a walk and shoot mechanic and some cool scene to a FULL scale map that in the time was massive with maybe hundred people a map, new mechanics, fully animated and voice acted cutscenes, good story and a massive campaign, barely no loading and an overwhelming amount of things happening at once,
dont worry you can disable motion blur, I also find it hilarious the amount of people talking about the fps when this video was their announcement that they were moving onto the optimization phase of development.
It's always been the plan to do sq42 (single-player) and then have a multi-player component (star citizen)
Star Citizen initially was a stretch goal of Squadron 42 Kickstarter : ) All the actors were recorded way back when they finished the story and writing. Couple of years ago CIG shuffled devs from SC to Squadron to finish this thing already, and looks like it beared fruit. This video was the ending of the Citizen Con, which in itself was kind of the end of 'radio silence' about the project. Like we all know that they were actually working on stuff, but details were sparse. All two days of presentation were awesome, to the point, and with very little fluff. And then they ended with this... Poor Chris Roberts was literally on the verge of tears from the cheers and standing ovation. What a moment...
PS. I'm pretty sure that the baddy in the end was played and voiced by Andy Serkis : ) And yeah, they have at least 3 alien languages fully fleshed out, the nerds they are.
And the Lore of this game is Massive.. its very cool.
Details have never been sparse.... the sq42 email newsletter tells you in high detail exactly what the devs are working on...
“This is pretty decent”-“this is pretty good”-“this is really clean”-“this is really good”-“this is insanely good”