Don't know why people hate on Lennox Lewis for, he was seriously avoided by a lot of opponents. Mike tyson refused to fight him in 1996 and vacated his WBC belt so he couldnt fight lennox lewis who was number 1 contender at the time. Riddick Bowe completely ducked lewis, he didnt want no part of him after the olympics. He fought Evander twice, having a highly controversial draw in their first fight and winning the second. Sure he was KO'ed by Mcall and rahman but he avenged both of those losses. I'm not saying he was the best heavyweight ever, i'm just saying he never gets the credit he deserves.
Not defending Bowe at all, as he did clearly avoid Lewis. However, that being said, I think it would have been a great fight myself. I think had they met in 1992, Bowe would have beaten Lewis. If you watch Lewis around that time, he was too awkward and high strung. He would swing for the fences too much, and be outboxed, perhaps even caught with something big, as Bowe could bang. The Lewis who fought Ruddock would have lost to the Bowe who fought Evander the first time. I wouldn't have bet much on it though. However, a mere few years later, after Lewis lost a couple of times, and worked more with Steward, he became a different fighter. Some may call it boring, but what it was, was extremely effective. He was much calmer, worked harder, was content to box more, behind the jab. He could still bang like a mac truck, but didn't rely on it as much. The Lewis who fought Morrison and Tyson would have beaten Bowe. It would have looked like the Bowe-Golota fights, except without the moronic low blows. Lewis would have worked him over, and possibly stopped him late. Career wise, Lewis ranks way ahead of Bowe though.
***** I said some would call it boring, I didn't really find him too boring. Sure, there were some fights where I was kinda wanting more, could see where he could have ended them earlier. However, I enjoyed all of his fights, and was a big fan. I rank him #4 all time at heavyweight, so don't think of anything I said as a dis against him at all. Physically, I would have picked Bowe back then (speaking purely physically, you're right that Bowes mental state/ fear could have played into the result), but as I said, I wouldn't have bet much..lol. The later Lewis vs ANY version of Bowe, and I'm picking Lewis.
Hugh Mannity like fuck he would. Lewis had skill, bravery and a chin. Tyson had none of those Every time he got in a proper fight he bottled it. How many times did he avenge his defeats?
@@mayorcurley3321 haha deep dreaming, Foreman had problems with outside fighters who have good IQ and chin. Young foreman loses by TKO and old foreman loses by UD.
Lies and deceit... Someone check his coffee he drink and or high... Larry Holmes over foreman rocky over mike Tyson... Rocky beat the greats on their career death bed and didn't go against any killers in their prime... Lennox Lewis would eat his breakfast... Rocky more like number 10
@@illahknigge2567 very overrated. Fought medicore opposition for 48 fights until he started fighting elites, that's when the losses started coming for him. if he was as good as people say he is then he wouldn't have gotten steamrolled by Tyson
Foreman said Cooneys was harder. Frazier 10x the Boxer Cooney was, and was wiser and more effective than Cooney. Not arguing that. Just quoting big George
So was Mike Tyson...brutalizing him lol He also got outclassed by the fighter who should really be occupying Larry's spot on the list at number 4.......Evander Holyfield
@@andrewrau7516 Holmes at old age overweight lost to mike Tyson same thing with Holyfield but switch that around on Holyfield and Tyson when they became old and in shape and not overweight like Holmes they lost to bums So why would Holyfield in any world deserve to be at number 4 over Holmes u can make a case that Holyfield’s better P4P due to being undisputed cruiserweight champion but no way heavyweight
For me this is my top 20 heavyweight of all time: 20:Wladimir Klitschko 19:Jimmy Ellis 18:Jerry Quarry 17:Mike Tyson 16:Vitali Klitschko 15:Floyd Patterson 14:Jersey Joe Walcott 13:Riddick Bowe 12:Ken Norton 11:Charles Liston 10:Jack Dempsey 9:Gene Tunney 8:Evander Holyfield 7:Lennox Lewis 6:Joe Frazier 5:George Foreman 4:Rocky Marciano 3:Larry Holmes 2:Muhammad Ali 1:Joe Louis
Larry Holmes was a classic case of not knowing what your missing until it's gone. I was a teenager during his tenure as champ. I always thought he was the best heavyweight from '78-85, maybe showing his age a bit in '84-85. But looking back at a lot of his fights from '78-83 courtesy of RUclips, you really see just how great he was.
Big George Foreman arguably the GOAT, you cannot deny. 81-5, KO'd everyone really. Took a decade off (maybe in his prime), then returned a full decade later and became the oldest heavyweight champion of all time in that run fighting the greatest that were half his age. Only put down 3x in his life, and only a KO loss to Ali, largely due to fatigue.
@@barringtonsmith9147 Foreman landed 194 punches, Ali only 118 (and 76 were jabs). Big George landed 138 hooks to Ali 42, and George landed 5 uppercut to Ali 0. Outboxed? 🤡 Foreman outboxed the life out of Ali. He lost due to fatigue. End of story.
Jose Louis deserves that #1 spot. 25 straight title defenses, incredible boxing going forward and backward, 1 punch knockout power in both hands, the list goes on and on. I'm glad you had Larry Holmes so high up he deserves to be remembered among the top 5 of all time.
1. Ali (the greatest, simple as) 2. Louis ( most efficient boxing machine ever probably ) 3. Holmes (horribly underrated, pure ability is right up there with ali) 4. Liston ( biggest surpise for many perhaps, before the ali fights he was an unstoppable force, can beat anyone bar ali ) 5. Marciano (undefeated, absolute warrior) 6. Foreman (immense power, would be too much for all bar a few) 7. Johnson ( possibly best defense ever, well ahead of his time in more ways than personality, boxing ability too) 8. Lennox Lewis ( also badly underrated but great abililty for such a big guy, last truly great champ) 9. Frazier (unlimited heart, beast left hook, exciting to watch,won the biggest fight in heavyweight history, MY FAVOURITE) 10. Tyson ( due to his explosive early/ prime career where he would be a tough fight for anyone on the list)
In boxing record terms ali isnt the greatest his biggest fights wer outside the ring marciano is number 1 never lost could of won more went down once by walcott ali was great but not the greatest
Ali lost 5 fights. 3 with parkinson. 2 without Parkinson. However he has beaten the greatest opponents EVER! That was the golden boxing decade and he beaten Shavers, Foreman, 2x Liston, 2x Frazier, 2x Norton, Williams AND SO MUCH MORE!
Listons my favorite fighter but that's a lie wat u put . He could beat anyone ? Lol no his era wasn't even comparable to 70s,80s,90s. He had a pretty easy era tbh he should have fought in the 70s for real competition. And Joe louis before Tyson? Wtf is ur list
Starting at the 13:24 mark, the speed, evasiveness, acrobatic balance, finesse, and pugilistic brilliance of the young Cassius Clay - as he renders the hulking Sonny Liston helpless to employ his deadly left hand - is stunning. Speed and intelligence overcame brute strength. And The Greatest Of All Time was inaugurated into a new era of boxing.
If you watch that first fight it was close, Liston was giving him issues, hurt him with a left hook the same round Ali hurt him. Hurt Ali to body in another round.
The fact is that Liston was not only brute strength but he was also a brilliant and an intelligent boxer. That one from Ali was truly a masterpiece, one of the greatest performances of all times.
Anyone can argue certain placements, I think your rankings are very reasonable!! Excellent footage as well. I am happy you didn't overrate Tyson as many uneducated fight fans do. Thanks for making an excellent video!
@@JamesCagney434 Liston and Foreman would finish him pretty fast, He got knocked out by lesser men like Rahman and MCcall. Foreman and Liston will crack his chin in no time.
@@jimmykarlsson2567 то что ты дрочишь на своего Али это еще не означает ,что он был самым сильным .Ты можешь не соглашаться со мной ,но я считаю ,что Леннокс дал бы ему пизды
I have to tip my hat to anyone who ranks Larry Holmes so high ( I'm in total agreement). That is as much Sam Langford footage as I've ever seen in my life, Great post, Great list.
boxing royalty here. Great video. The order will always spark debate, and I'm not a Dempsey fan but all in all you got the best of all time contained in this list. good job, good footage, good tribute to these legendary Fighters.
when people put tyson low on a GREATEST list i understand bc greatness has to do wit longevity. dis list says TOP 20 heavyweights. tyson n his prime is top 3. period! DIS LIST SUCKS!!!! not just da tyson part
+michaelbarber29 Perhaps but take a Dempsey..the man sat on his title for 3yrs never defending it once and refused to fight non whites. Top lists are opinion based so one can not really indulge in an argument over what one prefers.
+michaelbarber29 top 3? lmfao larry holmes, foreman, liston, frazier, lennox all certainly belong above tyson, and please dont bring that sorry ass argument that tyson beat holmes, holmes hadnt fought in years and only came in for that paycheck, holmes in his prime had all the tools to beat tyson (for one he had the greatest heavyweight jab of all time). tyson ducked old george foreman in the 90s, but you thinkhes better than prime george? lmao. lennox already demonstrated the tools to beat tyson, obviously he doesnt knock tyson out so early in prime vs prime, but i couldnt see tyson going past 10 rounds, his only chance would be early on because even prime tyson faded heavily in the late rounds. liston and frazier were both something that tyson hated, they were fearless, tyson did a lot of his best work on intimidation, but when fighters stood up to him things never ended very well for him (for example, buster douglas and evander holyfield), liston had also beaten floyd patterson by knockout in the first round, TWICE, and patterson was trained by cus, the same coach as tyson, patterson used the same peek a boo style as tyson, it didnt seem to match up well against liston lmfao.
+son-goku tyson didnt get tired n his prime & understand if we talkin bout GREATEST, im not puttin him n da convo. we talkin bout best n his prime. u say all dat about holmes but wut happened when holmes fault holyfield AFTER tyson? it was a close fight. & holyfield is easily top 10 ever. holmes couldnt beat tyson prime vs prime n my opinion. & dats wut these r, opinions. tyson had all da tools to get inside effectively. holmes was not dat different a fighter n his prime to say he would beat tyson as u say. & all foreman had was power. he was a stiff, sorry tyson wouldve got da best of him. & lewis, lol. name one good fighter he fault n their prime. he didnt fight bowe & he fault tyson & holyfield past their prime dats y u dont hear anyone wit boxing knowledge put him wit da greats. tyson never achieved bc he didnt apply himself when he needed to. all
+son-goku & Patterson & tyson were 2 completely different fighters. another comment by u dat make me think U DONT NO WUT DA HELL U TALKIN BOUT. liston was more similar to tyson than patterson. just b quiet & go watch sum film.
As good a list as I have ever seen..I like Lennox high..I like Holmes up there..i like the old school greats (jeffries,johnson and Langford) in there..really good list!!
On of the best channels I’ve ever seen. My list. 25. Redick Bowe. 24. Vitaly Klitchko 23. John S Soluvin. 22. James J Braddock. 21.Floyd Patterson 20. Ken Norton 19. Harry wills 18. Jersey joe Walcott 17. Shmelling 16. Wills 15. Sam Langford 14. Liston 13. Jack Johnson 12. Jim Jeffries 11. Lennox Lewis 10. Evander Holyfield 9. Joe Frazier 8. Mike Tyson 7. Gorge Foreman 6. Larry Holmes 5. Jack Dempsey 4. Gene Tunney 3. Rocky Marciano 2. Joe Louis 1. Muhammed Ali. Honorable mentions ( Peter Jackson , joe jennet , Sam Mcvea , wladamir Klitchko, razor rudduck , Henry cooper and ezzard charles because he is top 10 boxers of all time but he was a better Light heavyweight.
@I'll figure it out Bullshit. Holyfield deserves to be in the top 10. In fact, I also have him in the 7th spot as well. Holyfield, a blown up light heavyweight, beat VERY big natural heavyweights, undisputed champ and 4 time world champ, a record nobody has beaten yet. Also, if Holyfield hadn't of been robbed in the Vaulev fight, he would've been the oldest heavyweight champ ever at 46 and a 5th world champ. He never ducked ANYONE. He totally deserves to be in this spot
lol as the list was thinning im thinking "wait? Where's Larry Holmes?? There's no way reznik forgot the Easton Assassin!" And then number 3 popped up lol. Awesome List and very accurate
Both of the Klitchko's would kill Patterson. Patterson might have been more skilled but the discrepancy in size is just too ridiculous. Weight classes exist for a reason.
@@blacksocrates5071 if patterson was born in the same era as either klitschkos he'd be alot bigger. Similarly, if the klitschkos fought in the 50s-70s they'd be around the same size as Ali, Cleveland Williams or George Foreman.
@@lambokiller99 I'm sure the Klitchko's size is partially due to modern people being bigger. But correlation doesn't causation. There were huge guys going back to Primo Canera and Jess WIllard. Those guys just weren't as talented as the Klitchko's or Tyson Fury. It not as simple as saying a time period account for any discrepancy in size, because it could have been 100% genetic determinism (nature) instead of nurture.
@@blacksocrates5071 primo carnera and Jesse willard were freaks of nature, the Klitschkos, although genetically gifted, aren't freaks. They are just really tall and well built. If patterson fought today he'd be 185cm and weigh 210-220lbs. You have to realize that back in the 40s and 50s, many people were too poor to consume their basic macros.
@@lambokiller99 We saw the biggest spike in average height between the 1890's and 1950's (8 cm's). It pretty much plateaued after that, people have only grown 0.5 cm's since 1965. Weight has gone up 20 pounds. Best case scenario Patterson would be 6'1" 210Ibs instead of 6'0" 185Ibs. And he never had a pit bull frame like Tyson's to compensate for being undersized.
BossPlayer MFS I don't think anyone could knock you for saying that. I personally have The Brown Bomber as top 5 P4P, but I think Ali's resume is a bit better.
My own list is Number 1 spot occupied by 3 Heavyweights, that is Louis, Ali and John L Sullivan. Number 4 would be Marciano with Dempsey and Jack Johnson in at 5 and 6. Beyond that I don't know, it's anyone's guess really. But these 6 I think really need to be in the top 6 because their legacy and cultural influence for the sport was unstoppable
Everyone should know Ali would be number one & no dispute about that. However, when Sports Illustrated chose Michael Jordan as the best athlete of all time, that was not a worthy decision over Ali! Of course, two different sports but Ali was stripped from fighting for 3 years, & truly the older Ali were the better he fought. So even though he was past his early 20's & look @ it this way, ( Past his prime ). For The Champ to have his crown stripped because of not going to the war, that was A Man who thought taking life that didn't effect his own was the mind of a great humanitarian. Barley winning his first fight after the courts awarded him to fight, he fought with Fraizer & lost but put up one hell of a fight! After that lost Ali soared the highest peaks. When he did lose towards, Norton, Fraizer, Spinx, he still soared again. When Ali was way past his prime, at least the judges were honest on the score cards when he fought his last fight. He made had put on a show & danced but not enough to win the fight between Berbick & himself!Everyone has an assessment but Sports illustrated was wrong to chose Jordan over Ali.
#1 Muhammad Ali #2 Joe Louis #3 Rocky Marciano #4 Larry Holmes #5 George Foreman #6 Joe Frazier #7 Jack Dempsey #8 Evander Holyfield #9 Lennox Lewis #10 Mike Tyson
@@o.al3mrey291 Glad somebody said it. The Tyson fanboys think was all natural. Look at killer punchers before Tyson. Lets see.. Liston, Foreman, Shavers, all monster punchers and lets just say they didn't look like Tyson.
@@XavierMarciano You're right, but being a devastating puncher has nothing to do with roids. That is natural ability. Either you have it or don't. Roid only enhance the body's ability to recover from workouts and better protein synthesis. However, in Holyfield's case, he took it to the extreme. He was undersized for even a cruiserweight. Look at the before and after. That's what you get when you hire 8x Mr. Olympia Lee Haney as your BOXING trainer. He taught holyfield how to cycle on and off steroids. Holyfield was on another level with his steroid abuse.
@@caspermt Who was coaching Holyfield for years? A man with nothing to do with boxing, a multiple Mr.Universe winner. A legend at beating roids tests. Ya Holyfield brought him on for his boxing know how right?
Think of how many people Ali beat on THIS LIST of the 20 greatest heavyweights ever: - Foreman - Frazier (twice) - Floyd Patterson (twice) - Sonny Liston (twice) Why the fuck would he need to beat Foreman AGAIN (while Foreman was in his absolute prime and Ali was well past his) to stake his claim as the greatest???
there was a rematch coming then foreman chose to fight someone right before the rematch, in which foreman lost, then retired. If there was to be a rematch Ali admitted he would be in a disadvantage this time, however i believe that Ali would have still won, but probably by decision, as he wouldn't be able to tire out foreman as much, because foreman wouldn't allow the same technique twice to be played against him, Ali would probably dance around a lot this time, agitating foreman by making gags in between rounds, tryna speed up foremans attacks and to make him waste his energy but Ali is way past his prime so he wouldn't be able to dance full 15 rounds as he did in his youth, but neither to say, foreman would have issues cutting the ring with Ali for the first 5-6 rounds, then Ali would be forced to eat body punches, but foreman would be tired, not as much as their first match, but tired, so its unlikely especially as the rounds go on that foreman would be Ali.
@@AdamIqball Well, clearly Foreman didn't learn his lesson about conserving his stamina when he fought Jimmy Young, so what makes you suspect he wouldn't be stupid enough to do the same mistake he did with Ali again?? He clearly used the same technique when he fought Young..... And look what happened.
Foreman fell apart mentally after that first fight. He himself said he had nightmares about losing his title to Ali. Foreman had the tools, but Ali crushed him mentally.
I'm glad Larry Holmes was mentioned in this list. he's finally getting the recognition he deserves these days. its so sad that Larry Holmes in his 29 years in boxing, he only remembered as the guy who beat up ali and worsened the G.O.A.T's Parkinson's disease.
Yeah that fight should of never happenned. I think Holmes does get recognition though he is in pretty much every fans top 10 I've seen. I have him at number 4 in mine.
Although this is a remarkable channel, imho it's criminal not to include Vitali in a top 20. Never really lost, never went to the canvass, 91% KO.. Ok his era was not the best in term of competition, but what about Louis and Marciano era? I think he's top 5 at least, but come on not even including him in a top 20....
If I had to bet everything I had on one heavyweight fighter against any other it would be Vitali. His chin was made from something unearthly. If that uppercut from Lewis didn't knock him out nothing would. He wasn't even stunned by it. ✌
This is a great list. Im pleased to see Tyson so high as i find that most lists dont even bother including him, not even in 'top 50' or 'top 100' lists. It seems like they just completely ignore how he was before he went to prison and got years of his prime taken away. I'd say your placement of him is correct (either people leave him out or put him number 1, both of which seem slightly extreme). Also you chose great highlight clips to show for each boxer.
To Tyson Dynamite, PersianPS3Fanboy and those who may not know; yes Muhammad Ali did miss out on about 3 years of his prime. However Joe Louis missed out on about 4 years of pro boxing due to WWII, so take that into consideration also. Joe Louis... Legend.
And he never been the real heavyweight- 185 lbs. his normal fighting weight. He can fought at middleweight and light heavy with his body constitution. Because of this- many of boxing historians respect him a lot. Real warrior...
Nice to see Larry Holmes in there. He must be the most under rated heavyweight of all time. At his peak he was a great fighter, and had everything in terms of boxing ability.
1. Jack Johnson (his body physic for a heavyweight boxer was out of this world) 2. Joe Louis (the power he generated with both his hands was totally immense) 3. Muhammad Ali (his speed, power and class made him a real champion) 4. Mike Tyson (19 years old Tyson with Cus'D Mato in his corner was unbeatable) 5. George Foreman (power which could kill a mule) 6. Joe Frazier (once in a lifetime, pleasure to watch) 7. Rocky Marciano (very powerful right and left) 8. Lennox Lewis (could of done more in his career nevertheless great great boxer) 9. Jack Dempsey (skill) 10. Evander Holyfield (heart of a warrior)
M Doc True, M Doc - no other fighter gets credit because of the "in his prime" argument. George Foreman - in his prime - was everything Tyson was, only bigger and stronger. And somehow he came back way AFTER "his prime" and won the title again. Careers are careers - the whole body of work. Not just the wonder years.
FUKPATSHATERS! #12•4life fanboy classic. you may look at more that records. marciano fought in a very very weak era and was to slow to ever catch a boxer like ali. he didnt have chin, he was dropped by 40 something year old moore and 38 year old walcott. he then ran away from patterson anmd liston by retiering. this list is just ridiculous. johnson at nr 1?, tyson at nr. 4? No holmes but frazier?
Can watch This video over and over Again. Great feeling for atmosphere with the music and beautifull scenes. Favorite boxer will always be big George, but the best....Ali was just more than boxing Thats Why he is the greatest. quality wise I think not a popular choice but Lennox would become Damn close to be the best
Very very very good list I would have put Ken Norton and Vitaly Klitschko in this list and I think also that Usyk is one fight from being considered an all time great.
1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Holmes 4. Lewis 5. Marciano 6. Foreman 7. Johnson 8. Frazier 9. Holyfield 10. Tyson 11. Dempsey 12. Vitali Klitschko 13. Wladimir Klitschko 14. Sonny Liston 15. Jeffries 16. Charles 17. Tunney 18. Bowe 19. Patterson 20. Norton Remember this is not about prime its about entirety
My list: 1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Marciano 4. Lennox Lewis 5. Tyson 6. Holmes 7. Holyfield 8. Foreman 9. Ezarld Charles 10. Vitali Klitschko 11. Joe Frazier 12. Dempsey 13. Wladimir Klitschko 14. Liston 15. Jack Johnson 16. Riddick Bowe 17. Patterson 18. Tunney 19. Jersey Joe walcott 20. Max Schmelling
1 Muhammad Ali 2 Joe Louis 3 Lennox Lewis 4 Mike Tyson 5 Rocky Marciano 6 Jack Dempsey 7Larry Holmes 8George Foreman 9 Joe Frazier 10 Evander Holyfield
***** The order makes a huge difference, Tyson did not do anything in his career that would make anyone rate him above guys who made 20-25 defenses, and never got their asses KO'ed at 23 by a slug journeyman. Holyfield and Lewis behind Tyson? Why, in a million years, would you do that? I know, you'll have 40 excuses for Mike, say he was shot when they fought. However when he fought Holyfield, Evander had come back from heart issues, and had looked terrible against Bobby Cycz (sp), he was older and much more worn than Mikey...Why does only Mike get the "washed up" excuse made for him, just 'cause he lost?? How convenient. Everyone at the time knew what Mike had left, knew his age etc. He was still the fav going in. Yet, once he gets his ass handed to him by a superior fighter, he's suddenly washed up?? Holyfield and Lewis made more defenses, against better opposition, AND both beat him down, yet they rank behind him? You've watched way too many highlight clips, and are ranking based on personal likes rather than skills and career. Rocky is way too high too, only made 6 defenses, and against old men. You're right though, you do at least have the correct fighters mentioned... The delusional comment was only aimed at the 1a ranking of Tyson...cheers.
CoronaJoe You over looked the most important thing about all of them except Marciano. On any given day any one of them except him could be beaten, and still I didn't put him in the #1 slot where he belongs by right of passage being that in all the divisions of boxing only Marciano was unbeaten over a career lasting 49 fights. The first time around I did you the courtesy of not mentioning that 23 of his opponents suffered permanent damage in one form or another. The Ali that fought Frazier wouldn't get into the 7TH round with him. Joe Louis fought the toughest group by far I might add. As for excuses, you make them for your list, not mine. As for Tyson, after 1988 he never trained, became a drug addict, and that does count in the real world? The other thing is this. You can play the numbers game with any sport, but "on any given day". That's my opinion about Tyson, and after talking with Manny Steward about it I'll take it over yours! Manny also stated publicly that the only two fighters he had ever seen with one punch KO power were Tommy Hearns and Tyson. Ali of the 70s doesn't get on the list, period! If you want to dispute that here's a quote from Foreman, " I don't think he ever beat Norton." Neither do I George. As you might notice it's easy to get picayune CJ. No one on that list beats Tyson 2 out of 3. In the first Holyfield fight it was over in the fifth round when Tyson hit him with a two punch combo to the body, but he had fought less than 10 round counting sparring in 6 years, and in actuality didn't recognize how badly Holyfield was hurt, so give me a break. Save your alleged superior knowledge for the rookies and fool them, but not me. I was there for most of them as that was my business. I don't need an amateur to tell me I lived my life wrong now that I'm near the end. I lived well, supported two families, and had a lot of fun.
***** Wow, a novel. Maybe I'll read it all later. However, having Tyson at 1 all time displays that you have very limited knowledge on the sport, and are pretty much a fanboy.
1. Jack Johnson 2. Muhammad Ali 3. Joe Louis 4. Rocky Marciano 5. Larry Holmes 6. George Foreman 7. Joe Frazier 8. Jack Dempsey 9. Evander Holyfield 10. Lennox Lewis 11. Mike Tyson
It's not about who beat who. It's about accomplishments and legacy. Rocky beat Joe Louis. Rocky isn't greater than Joe Louis. Gene Tunney beat Jack Dempsey twice. Dempsey is held in higher regard because of legacy.
@@DepressionShaman nah its stupid casuals like you who rate them like that. Dempsey was a duck who was beaten by a light heavy champ in tunney. Rocky beat old man louis coming off a long layoff and nobody credits that as his best win. Heck not even 2nd or 3rd best. Those are between ezzard, archie and Jersey joe. Tyson was an early bloomer who was fortunate enough to be in the right place at the right time when he best fighters from a previous generation.
@boxing fan uk Not every win over all time greats are created equal. There's politics of boxing, where both fighters were in their careers, how many title defenses they had or how deep their resumes were. There are some very good fights who were world champions who actually beat HOF boxers who AREN'T in the HOF themselves. Is Oliver McCall a HOFer? Buster Douglas? Ray Mercer? Tommy Morrison? Leon Spinks? James J Braddock? The journey every fighter takes is different. Some are late bloomers. Some have a shitload of loses (Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles), but they're still HOFers. Some were held back by the politics of the sport (Archie Moore comes to mind). It's about what you contributed to the sport and what your legacy is. Can anyone have a serious discussion about the history of the sport and NOT mention your name as a contributor?
rocky over foreman is a joke. i mean come on people. the height and reach advantage. classic example of i like him so therefore i rate him higher. rocky isn't even in the top ten.
vitali klitschko should have been there in the top 10. he was way better then his brother, and he could beat any body on this list on a given day. he was the best ko artist the HW devision ever saw, he was never knocked down, never behind on the score cards, and his only two loses came because of an injury while he was leading on the score cards by far. how can he be out of this list?
vincespell you are so fuckin right man i got mad respect for joe,this guy was not just a fighter,he was a warrior. fighters aint made like that no more,sadly.
Amazing video especially the ending with Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali. I belive Langford and Wills are the two most underrated heavyweights ever and should be alot higher, top 10 at the least (I have Langford 3rd) -Langford was a 5x coloured heavyweight champion with 41 title defences. -Wills was a 3x coloured heavyweight champion with 25 title defences. Although Langford did lose to Johnson but he was a much smaller man only weighing around 154Ibs at the time, believe there was something like a 35Ibs difference. I believe post 1910 Langford who weight around 175-185Ibs and had experience at the weight fighting bigger men would of beat Johnson if they fought (I would pick Johnson to win in their primes). He fought all the other top heavyweights like Wills, Jeanette and Mcvea multiple time.
Vitali belongs on this list! His only true loss was to Lennox - who was fantastic - and Vitali was ahead on points. His other loss was to Chris Byrd when he tore his rotator. He was annihilating Byrd otherwise. I don't believe he's ever been behind in a fight beyond the 3rd round.
The Joe louis and Ali segment was something truly beautiful.
Yeah
Jersey Joe Walcotts segment is pretty good too. I use his shifty footwork in the gym to consistently land the jab
Don't know why people hate on Lennox Lewis for, he was seriously avoided by a lot of opponents. Mike tyson refused to fight him in 1996 and vacated his WBC belt so he couldnt fight lennox lewis who was number 1 contender at the time. Riddick Bowe completely ducked lewis, he didnt want no part of him after the olympics. He fought Evander twice, having a highly controversial draw in their first fight and winning the second. Sure he was KO'ed by Mcall and rahman but he avenged both of those losses. I'm not saying he was the best heavyweight ever, i'm just saying he never gets the credit he deserves.
Not defending Bowe at all, as he did clearly avoid Lewis. However, that being said, I think it would have been a great fight myself. I think had they met in 1992, Bowe would have beaten Lewis. If you watch Lewis around that time, he was too awkward and high strung. He would swing for the fences too much, and be outboxed, perhaps even caught with something big, as Bowe could bang. The Lewis who fought Ruddock would have lost to the Bowe who fought Evander the first time. I wouldn't have bet much on it though.
However, a mere few years later, after Lewis lost a couple of times, and worked more with Steward, he became a different fighter. Some may call it boring, but what it was, was extremely effective. He was much calmer, worked harder, was content to box more, behind the jab. He could still bang like a mac truck, but didn't rely on it as much. The Lewis who fought Morrison and Tyson would have beaten Bowe. It would have looked like the Bowe-Golota fights, except without the moronic low blows. Lewis would have worked him over, and possibly stopped him late.
Career wise, Lewis ranks way ahead of Bowe though.
***** I said some would call it boring, I didn't really find him too boring. Sure, there were some fights where I was kinda wanting more, could see where he could have ended them earlier. However, I enjoyed all of his fights, and was a big fan. I rank him #4 all time at heavyweight, so don't think of anything I said as a dis against him at all.
Physically, I would have picked Bowe back then (speaking purely physically, you're right that Bowes mental state/ fear could have played into the result), but as I said, I wouldn't have bet much..lol. The later Lewis vs ANY version of Bowe, and I'm picking Lewis.
Lennox lewis ood fighter, and you have to give it to him, he beat everydody
Hugh Mannity like fuck he would. Lewis had skill, bravery and a chin. Tyson had none of those Every time he got in a proper fight he bottled it. How many times did he avenge his defeats?
@@Mickey67938 you mean like ruddock 2?
ill never forget the roar of the crowed when Marciano hit jersey Joe with that right hand
how about the left to make sure he stayed down? yes slightly dirty but fun to watch all the same
Tina Springer
Ikr
49 fights
0 losses
43 KOs.....,....says it all.
@@tinaspringer651 Joe's knees weren't on the ground yet so it was legalm
@@tinaspringer651legitimate punch
Larry Holmes is finally getting the respect he deserves. A+
Fought in a light era. Good skills, great jab. Foreman woulda lit him up though.
@@mayorcurley3321 haha deep dreaming, Foreman had problems with outside fighters who have good IQ and chin. Young foreman loses by TKO and old foreman loses by UD.
@@jacobh7188 young foreman only lost twice. To Ali and Jimmy Young and he whooped alot of guys.
@@mayorcurley3321 I agree.
Prime Foreman was a ko monster
45(42ko) 2(1ko) before his first retirement
Lies and deceit... Someone check his coffee he drink and or high... Larry Holmes over foreman rocky over mike Tyson... Rocky beat the greats on their career death bed and didn't go against any killers in their prime... Lennox Lewis would eat his breakfast... Rocky more like number 10
good list, i am glad someone ranks Holmes high. The most underrated Heavyweight champ.
Overrated imo
@@illahknigge2567 very overrated. Fought medicore opposition for 48 fights until he started fighting elites, that's when the losses started coming for him. if he was as good as people say he is then he wouldn't have gotten steamrolled by Tyson
@@brocksimmons345 you bum that's what I said that he is overrated read my comment
@@illahknigge2567 I was agreeing with you, you little shit
Liston*
My favorite boxing video on RUclips. I don't agree 100% with the rankings, but the music and editing made it.
da music suck!!
maybe 2 ok songs
+michaelbarber29 Naw 4 songs r the real dope niggah :)
michaelbarber29 I liked the first and last song, and the second to last was pretty good.
+Matt Brozie Yo bro go to my channel an play Tommy Morrison KO s if U want to hear good music :)
JOE Frazier's left hooks should seriously be illegall.
smoking joe and henry cooper got next lvl left hooks. both dropped the greatest boxer of all time with the left hook.
Foreman said Cooneys was harder.
Frazier 10x the Boxer Cooney was, and was wiser and more effective than Cooney. Not arguing that. Just quoting big George
@@Head318Hunter frazier wasn't able to use his signature weapon because of Foreman's style.
When a decade past his prime, old, overweight Larry Holmes beat the crap out of young, prime, hungry Lion Ray Mercer... that was pretty FN AMAZING
So was Mike Tyson...brutalizing him lol He also got outclassed by the fighter who should really be occupying Larry's spot on the list at number 4.......Evander Holyfield
@@andrewrau7516 Holmes at old age overweight lost to mike Tyson same thing with Holyfield but switch that around on Holyfield and Tyson when they became old and in shape and not overweight like Holmes they lost to bums So why would Holyfield in any world deserve to be at number 4 over Holmes u can make a case that Holyfield’s better P4P due to being undisputed cruiserweight champion but no way heavyweight
@@andrewrau7516dude, no one could beat Mike Tyson in the 88, only Ali of the 60’s.
Tyson in 88 was a different warrior…
For me this is my top 20 heavyweight of all time:
20:Wladimir Klitschko
19:Jimmy Ellis
18:Jerry Quarry
17:Mike Tyson
16:Vitali Klitschko
15:Floyd Patterson
14:Jersey Joe Walcott
13:Riddick Bowe
12:Ken Norton
11:Charles Liston
10:Jack Dempsey
9:Gene Tunney
8:Evander Holyfield
7:Lennox Lewis
6:Joe Frazier
5:George Foreman
4:Rocky Marciano
3:Larry Holmes
2:Muhammad Ali
1:Joe Louis
Vitali Klitschko and floyd patterson better than Tyson ? Are you drunk ?
Where Sonny Liston?
@@wektor8991 Number 11 on his list even though it should be higher.
@@omarhab3689Patterson was the original Tyson so I don’t entirely mind it I think they should both be higher
@@wektor8991his real name is Charles liston
Larry Holmes was a classic case of not knowing what your missing until it's gone. I was a teenager during his tenure as champ. I always thought he was the best heavyweight from '78-85, maybe showing his age a bit in '84-85. But looking back at a lot of his fights from '78-83 courtesy of RUclips, you really see just how great he was.
Agree....
Yess he was the MAN in the ring after Ali retired
Holmes was definitely one of the greats
Larry Holmes was a remarkable champion. Thank you for such a great piece of art ; - )
8:42 Nothing hits harder then life. Except George Foreman.
Big George Foreman arguably the GOAT, you cannot deny. 81-5, KO'd everyone really. Took a decade off (maybe in his prime), then returned a full decade later and became the oldest heavyweight champion of all time in that run fighting the greatest that were half his age. Only put down 3x in his life, and only a KO loss to Ali, largely due to fatigue.
I agree, I have Foreman ahead of Ali
You're on glue
Concerning Forman and Ali I think the word your looking for is outboxed
@@barringtonsmith9147 Foreman landed 194 punches, Ali only 118 (and 76 were jabs). Big George landed 138 hooks to Ali 42, and George landed 5 uppercut to Ali 0. Outboxed? 🤡 Foreman outboxed the life out of Ali. He lost due to fatigue. End of story.
And Foreman knows that Jesus Christ is the King of kings Lord of lords, son of God. Amen! 🙏🥳
What a beautiful end with Muhammad Ali.... nice work.
#HORSESHIT #CassiusClay was the most overrated athlete of all time not to mention #racist
man joe fraziers left hook was vicious smh would rather get hit with a brick than get hit with that lmao.
And too think Ali got back up off the canvas after taking a clean shot of that left hook. Warriors.
I'd feel honored to get hit by Smokin Joe's left hook.
@@isaacdiakite6249 You'd feel numb too.
Camcolito lol
@@isaacdiakite6249 you'd feel nothing till the next day my friend
Muhammad Ali the grandmaster and King Of Boxing! 💕 A lot of Thanks Reznick
Jose Louis deserves that #1 spot. 25 straight title defenses, incredible boxing going forward and backward, 1 punch knockout power in both hands, the list goes on and on. I'm glad you had Larry Holmes so high up he deserves to be remembered among the top 5 of all time.
I still come back to this video sometimes, crazy to think it's been 13 years now.
1. Ali (the greatest, simple as)
2. Louis ( most efficient boxing machine ever probably )
3. Holmes (horribly underrated, pure ability is right up there with ali)
4. Liston ( biggest surpise for many perhaps, before the ali fights he was an unstoppable force, can beat anyone bar ali )
5. Marciano (undefeated, absolute warrior)
6. Foreman (immense power, would be too much for all bar a few)
7. Johnson ( possibly best defense ever, well ahead of his time in more ways than personality, boxing ability too)
8. Lennox Lewis ( also badly underrated but great abililty for such a big guy, last truly great champ)
9. Frazier (unlimited heart, beast left hook, exciting to watch,won the biggest fight in heavyweight history, MY FAVOURITE)
10. Tyson ( due to his explosive early/ prime career where he would be a tough fight for anyone on the list)
Daniel Ebrey Great list!
In boxing record terms ali isnt the greatest his biggest fights wer outside the ring marciano is number 1 never lost could of won more went down once by walcott ali was great but not the greatest
Brawling Style how many heavy weight greats did marciano beat? Besides him being never losing he has nothing else going for him
Ali lost 5 fights. 3 with parkinson. 2 without Parkinson. However he has beaten the greatest opponents EVER! That was the golden boxing decade and he beaten Shavers, Foreman, 2x Liston, 2x Frazier, 2x Norton, Williams AND SO MUCH MORE!
Listons my favorite fighter but that's a lie wat u put . He could beat anyone ? Lol no his era wasn't even comparable to 70s,80s,90s. He had a pretty easy era tbh he should have fought in the 70s for real competition. And Joe louis before Tyson? Wtf is ur list
Starting at the 13:24 mark, the speed, evasiveness, acrobatic balance, finesse, and pugilistic brilliance of the young Cassius Clay - as he renders the hulking Sonny Liston helpless to employ his deadly left hand - is stunning. Speed and intelligence overcame brute strength. And The Greatest Of All Time was inaugurated into a new era of boxing.
If you watch that first fight it was close, Liston was giving him issues, hurt him with a left hook the same round Ali hurt him. Hurt Ali to body in another round.
The fact is that Liston was not only brute strength but he was also a brilliant and an intelligent boxer. That one from Ali was truly a masterpiece, one of the greatest performances of all times.
i get goosebumps watchin the top 3. thanx alot for this vid reznick
Anyone can argue certain placements, I think your rankings are very reasonable!! Excellent footage as well. I am happy you didn't overrate Tyson as many uneducated fight fans do. Thanks for making an excellent video!
The order couldn't have been any better! Especially about 1 & 2! Truly legendary.
Absolutely phenomenal list.
My top 5 is somewhat similar
1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Lennox Lewis
5. Rocky Marciano
1. Ali
2. Liston
3. Louis
4. Foreman
5. Holmes
@@kantovagrant3194 1. Louis 2. Ali 3. Marciano
1. Joe Louis
2. Joe Frazier
3. Muhammad Ali
My list is
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Loius
3.George Foreman
4.Rocky Marciano
5.Larry Holmes
1. Muhammed Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. George Foreman
A great list, I just think Lennox is always underrated. A marvelous talent!
On my opinion he would beat all boxers from this list
Vitali & Wladimir klitschko brothers
@@JamesCagney434 Liston and Foreman would finish him pretty fast, He got knocked out by lesser men like Rahman and MCcall. Foreman and Liston will crack his chin in no time.
@@JamesCagney434 he would beat Ali???
Wtf 😂
@@jimmykarlsson2567 то что ты дрочишь на своего Али это еще не означает ,что он был самым сильным .Ты можешь не соглашаться со мной ,но я считаю ,что Леннокс дал бы ему пизды
Glad to see Larry Holmes #3...HE IS A GREAT HEAVYWEIGHT...!!!
The very best movie out there! Wanted to write and appreciate this piece of art. Absolutely love it man! :)
I have to tip my hat to anyone who ranks Larry Holmes so high ( I'm in total agreement). That is as much Sam Langford footage as I've ever seen in my life, Great post, Great list.
Larry holmes doesn’t even deserve to b on d list
I would have Larry Holmes number 4.
@@amitsinha2943 i agree
Nobody could have beat the Jack Dempsey that came in the ring aganist Willard. Even Tunney admitted this.
I watched this when it first came out and i still go back to it a few times a year. Good job bro
1 Ali
2 Louis
3 Marciano
4 Foreman
5 Johnson
6 Frazier
7 Holmes
8 Lewis
9 Liston
10 Tyson
Dante & Misia Vessio 9
Louis beating foreman?
Just let this man have his own opinion
@@mattmonedero835 Marciano knocked him out.
1.Ali
2.Young Tyson
3.Marciano
4.Foreman
#1 Muhammad Ali, #2 Joe Louis, #3 Jack Dempsey, #4 Rocky Marciano, #5 Mike Tyson, #6 George Foreman, #7 Larry Holmes, #8 Joe Frazier, #9 Ezzard Charles, #10 Floyd Patterson, #11 Gene Tunney, #12 Sonny Liston
boxing royalty here. Great video. The order will always spark debate, and I'm not a Dempsey fan but all in all you got the best of all time contained in this list. good job, good footage, good tribute to these legendary Fighters.
This video got powerful at the end
Great video
My Top 10
1.Ali
2.Foreman
3.Liston
4.Lewis
5.Tyson
6.Louis
7.Frazier
8.Holmes
9.Bowe
10.Holyfield
Man this clip is just amazing. Amazing. It gives me goosebumps all the times
Pretty good list👍
when people put tyson low on a GREATEST list i understand bc greatness has to do wit longevity. dis list says TOP 20 heavyweights. tyson n his prime is top 3. period! DIS LIST SUCKS!!!! not just da tyson part
+michaelbarber29 Perhaps but take a Dempsey..the man sat on his title for 3yrs never defending it once and refused to fight non whites. Top lists are opinion based so one can not really indulge in an argument over what one prefers.
+michaelbarber29 top 3? lmfao larry holmes, foreman, liston, frazier, lennox all certainly belong above tyson, and please dont bring that sorry ass argument that tyson beat holmes, holmes hadnt fought in years and only came in for that paycheck, holmes in his prime had all the tools to beat tyson (for one he had the greatest heavyweight jab of all time). tyson ducked old george foreman in the 90s, but you thinkhes better than prime george? lmao. lennox already demonstrated the tools to beat tyson, obviously he doesnt knock tyson out so early in prime vs prime, but i couldnt see tyson going past 10 rounds, his only chance would be early on because even prime tyson faded heavily in the late rounds. liston and frazier were both something that tyson hated, they were fearless, tyson did a lot of his best work on intimidation, but when fighters stood up to him things never ended very well for him (for example, buster douglas and evander holyfield), liston had also beaten floyd patterson by knockout in the first round, TWICE, and patterson was trained by cus, the same coach as tyson, patterson used the same peek a boo style as tyson, it didnt seem to match up well against liston lmfao.
+son-goku tyson didnt get tired n his prime & understand if we talkin bout GREATEST, im not puttin him n da convo. we talkin bout best n his prime. u say all dat about holmes but wut happened when holmes fault holyfield AFTER tyson? it was a close fight. & holyfield is easily top 10 ever. holmes couldnt beat tyson prime vs prime n my opinion. & dats wut these r, opinions. tyson had all da tools to get inside effectively. holmes was not dat different a fighter n his prime to say he would beat tyson as u say. & all foreman had was power. he was a stiff, sorry tyson wouldve got da best of him. & lewis, lol. name one good fighter he fault n their prime. he didnt fight bowe & he fault tyson & holyfield past their prime dats y u dont hear anyone wit boxing knowledge put him wit da greats.
tyson never achieved bc he didnt apply himself when he needed to. all
+son-goku & Patterson & tyson were 2 completely different fighters. another comment by u dat make me think U DONT NO WUT DA HELL U TALKIN BOUT. liston was more similar to tyson than patterson. just b quiet & go watch sum film.
As good a list as I have ever seen..I like Lennox high..I like Holmes up there..i like the old school greats (jeffries,johnson and Langford) in there..really good list!!
Amazing video music, editing, pure masterpiece. My favourite boxing video on RUclips
On of the best channels I’ve ever seen. My list.
25. Redick Bowe.
24. Vitaly Klitchko
23. John S Soluvin.
22. James J Braddock.
21.Floyd Patterson
20. Ken Norton
19. Harry wills
18. Jersey joe Walcott
17. Shmelling
16. Wills
15. Sam Langford
14. Liston
13. Jack Johnson
12. Jim Jeffries
11. Lennox Lewis
10. Evander Holyfield
9. Joe Frazier
8. Mike Tyson
7. Gorge Foreman
6. Larry Holmes
5. Jack Dempsey
4. Gene Tunney
3. Rocky Marciano
2. Joe Louis
1. Muhammed Ali.
Honorable mentions ( Peter Jackson , joe jennet , Sam Mcvea , wladamir Klitchko, razor rudduck , Henry cooper and ezzard charles because he is top 10 boxers of all time but he was a better Light heavyweight.
Joe Frazier and George Foreman should be above Larry Holmes 💯
Isaac Diakité I can see why. But how many title defenses do Frazier and foreman have combined. Holmes had 19.
As much as i love old school fighters i think holyfield and lewis should be ranked higher
I would put Tyson fury in honorable mentions as well if we are being honest
Dreadful list mate
1.Louis
2.Ali
3.Holmes
4.Lewis
5.Foreman
6.Frazier
7.Holyfield
8.Marciano
9.Tyson
10.Dempsey
🤣
I'll figure it out BOI r u good?
@I'll figure it out Bullshit. Holyfield deserves to be in the top 10. In fact, I also have him in the 7th spot as well. Holyfield, a blown up light heavyweight, beat VERY big natural heavyweights, undisputed champ and 4 time world champ, a record nobody has beaten yet. Also, if Holyfield hadn't of been robbed in the Vaulev fight, he would've been the oldest heavyweight champ ever at 46 and a 5th world champ. He never ducked ANYONE. He totally deserves to be in this spot
lol as the list was thinning im thinking "wait? Where's Larry Holmes?? There's no way reznik forgot the Easton Assassin!" And then number 3 popped up lol. Awesome List and very accurate
Also Lewis looks a bit like a giant, black, bearded Jennifer Lawrence xD
Oh my god.. He does.
James Brewer ffs I can’t get that out my head now 😂
James Brewer holy shit your right
would love to see you do a 10 greatest fighters of all time!
You need to do top 10 p4p video. Been watching since i was 14. I'm 27 now.
Goosebumps on joe Louis entrance
The real goat
I am glad they went with the early years of Ali, pre suspension Ali I call him. That was fast.
Enjoyed this clip.Thanks for posting. TRUE LEGENDS!
Ty Runnels
(formerly Ibeabuchi)
Sonny Liston is the greatest in my eyes
defeated plenty of all time greats such as cleve williams hardest hitting man on plannet imo
He's no 3 for me
Late 1950s/ early 1960s sonny liston unbeatable & invincible
Agreed+
You all need your eyes checked. I mean really, try taking your head out of your ass.🙄
Very well put together list. I really enjoyed watching. Well done reznick6
In my opinion, I think floyd patterson was better than wladimir klitchsko and I think Sam Langford should be a bit higher. Definitely good list tho
Both of the Klitchko's would kill Patterson. Patterson might have been more skilled but the discrepancy in size is just too ridiculous. Weight classes exist for a reason.
@@blacksocrates5071 if patterson was born in the same era as either klitschkos he'd be alot bigger. Similarly, if the klitschkos fought in the 50s-70s they'd be around the same size as Ali, Cleveland Williams or George Foreman.
@@lambokiller99 I'm sure the Klitchko's size is partially due to modern people being bigger. But correlation doesn't causation. There were huge guys going back to Primo Canera and Jess WIllard. Those guys just weren't as talented as the Klitchko's or Tyson Fury. It not as simple as saying a time period account for any discrepancy in size, because it could have been 100% genetic determinism (nature) instead of nurture.
@@blacksocrates5071 primo carnera and Jesse willard were freaks of nature, the Klitschkos, although genetically gifted, aren't freaks. They are just really tall and well built. If patterson fought today he'd be 185cm and weigh 210-220lbs. You have to realize that back in the 40s and 50s, many people were too poor to consume their basic macros.
@@lambokiller99 We saw the biggest spike in average height between the 1890's and 1950's (8 cm's). It pretty much plateaued after that, people have only grown 0.5 cm's since 1965. Weight has gone up 20 pounds. Best case scenario Patterson would be 6'1" 210Ibs instead of 6'0" 185Ibs. And he never had a pit bull frame like Tyson's to compensate for being undersized.
Joe Louis is the best heavyweight of all times.
BossPlayer MFS No ali is
BossPlayer MFS I don't think anyone could knock you for saying that. I personally have The Brown Bomber as top 5 P4P, but I think Ali's resume is a bit better.
Louis isn't even top 10 for me.
Hamza Khaliq are you crazy???
Jazel Diodonet No. He fought in a weak era, and mostly beat nobodies.
My own list is
Number 1 spot occupied by 3 Heavyweights, that is Louis, Ali and John L Sullivan.
Number 4 would be Marciano with Dempsey and Jack Johnson in at 5 and 6.
Beyond that I don't know, it's anyone's guess really. But these 6 I think really need to be in the top 6 because their legacy and cultural influence for the sport was unstoppable
Everyone should know Ali would be number one & no dispute about that. However, when Sports Illustrated chose Michael Jordan as the best athlete of all time, that was not a worthy decision over Ali! Of course, two different sports but Ali was stripped from fighting for 3 years, & truly the older Ali were the better he fought. So even though he was past his early 20's & look @ it this way, ( Past his prime ). For The Champ to have his crown stripped because of not going to the war, that was A Man who thought taking life that didn't effect his own was the mind of a great humanitarian. Barley winning his first fight after the courts awarded him to fight, he fought with Fraizer & lost but put up one hell of a fight! After that lost Ali soared the highest peaks. When he did lose towards, Norton, Fraizer, Spinx, he still soared again. When Ali was way past his prime, at least the judges were honest on the score cards when he fought his last fight. He made had put on a show & danced but not enough to win the fight between Berbick & himself!Everyone has an assessment but Sports illustrated was wrong to chose Jordan over Ali.
awesome video, enjoyed it a lot. the black and white footage was really clear and nice too.
First time I've ever seen footage of sam Langford. They reckon he had bowling balls for shoulders
I loved the video, it was great. But Tyson above Holyfield? C'mon man.
#1 Muhammad Ali
#2 Joe Louis
#3 Rocky Marciano
#4 Larry Holmes
#5 George Foreman
#6 Joe Frazier
#7 Jack Dempsey
#8 Evander Holyfield
#9 Lennox Lewis
#10 Mike Tyson
Love Holyfield's style, even though he was on roids.
Most of them were, even Tyson.
@@o.al3mrey291 Glad somebody said it. The Tyson fanboys think was all natural. Look at killer punchers before Tyson. Lets see.. Liston, Foreman, Shavers, all monster punchers and lets just say they didn't look like Tyson.
@@XavierMarciano You're right, but being a devastating puncher has nothing to do with roids. That is natural ability. Either you have it or don't. Roid only enhance the body's ability to recover from workouts and better protein synthesis. However, in Holyfield's case, he took it to the extreme. He was undersized for even a cruiserweight. Look at the before and after. That's what you get when you hire 8x Mr. Olympia Lee Haney as your BOXING trainer. He taught holyfield how to cycle on and off steroids. Holyfield was on another level with his steroid abuse.
@@caspermt Every elite athlete is on some type of PEDs
@@caspermt Who was coaching Holyfield for years? A man with nothing to do with boxing, a multiple Mr.Universe winner. A legend at beating roids tests. Ya Holyfield brought him on for his boxing know how right?
Rest in peace Ali.
Excellent job, and a possibly spot on top 20.
I'd be more inclined to believe Ali is the greatest if he had the rematch with Foreman
Think of how many people Ali beat on THIS LIST of the 20 greatest heavyweights ever:
- Foreman
- Frazier (twice)
- Floyd Patterson (twice)
- Sonny Liston (twice)
Why the fuck would he need to beat Foreman AGAIN (while Foreman was in his absolute prime and Ali was well past his) to stake his claim as the greatest???
there was a rematch coming then foreman chose to fight someone right before the rematch, in which foreman lost, then retired. If there was to be a rematch Ali admitted he would be in a disadvantage this time, however i believe that Ali would have still won, but probably by decision, as he wouldn't be able to tire out foreman as much, because foreman wouldn't allow the same technique twice to be played against him, Ali would probably dance around a lot this time, agitating foreman by making gags in between rounds, tryna speed up foremans attacks and to make him waste his energy but Ali is way past his prime so he wouldn't be able to dance full 15 rounds as he did in his youth, but neither to say, foreman would have issues cutting the ring with Ali for the first 5-6 rounds, then Ali would be forced to eat body punches, but foreman would be tired, not as much as their first match, but tired, so its unlikely especially as the rounds go on that foreman would be Ali.
@@j.l.4054 dont forget tough guys like shavers, norton and even reclaimed the heavyweight title for the 3rd time after he was wayy out of his prime
@@AdamIqball Well, clearly Foreman didn't learn his lesson about conserving his stamina when he fought Jimmy Young, so what makes you suspect he wouldn't be stupid enough to do the same mistake he did with Ali again?? He clearly used the same technique when he fought Young..... And look what happened.
Foreman fell apart mentally after that first fight. He himself said he had nightmares about losing his title to Ali. Foreman had the tools, but Ali crushed him mentally.
5:57 doesn’t that knock down remind you of FRAZIER VS ALI 1.
Yep. Liston had a monster left hook, too.
Respectable list and excellent compilation.
I'm glad Larry Holmes was mentioned in this list. he's finally getting the recognition he deserves these days. its so sad that Larry Holmes in his 29 years in boxing, he only remembered as the guy who beat up ali and worsened the G.O.A.T's Parkinson's disease.
Yeah that fight should of never happenned.
I think Holmes does get recognition though he is in pretty much every fans top 10 I've seen. I have him at number 4 in mine.
Although this is a remarkable channel, imho it's criminal not to include Vitali in a top 20.
Never really lost, never went to the canvass, 91% KO..
Ok his era was not the best in term of competition, but what about Louis and Marciano era?
I think he's top 5 at least, but come on not even including him in a top 20....
If I had to bet everything I had on one heavyweight fighter against any other it would be Vitali. His chin was made from something unearthly. If that uppercut from Lewis didn't knock him out nothing would. He wasn't even stunned by it. ✌
This is a great list. Im pleased to see Tyson so high as i find that most lists dont even bother including him, not even in 'top 50' or 'top 100' lists. It seems like they just completely ignore how he was before he went to prison and got years of his prime taken away. I'd say your placement of him is correct (either people leave him out or put him number 1, both of which seem slightly extreme). Also you chose great highlight clips to show for each boxer.
1:clay/Louis
2:Marciano
3:foreman
4:Johnson
5:tyson
6:frazier
7:valuev
8:Holmes
9:dempsey
10:holy field
11:Lewis
12:bowe
13:wilder
14:v kitsch ko
15:w klitschko
16:morrison
17:tua
18:haye
19:Bruno
20:fury
Where's Muhammad?! Should be at least top 3. Second of all, Lewis is better than Holyfield, in his prime almost on par with Tyson...
+Nick Yushkevich Muhammad Ali is #1 on the list. This person just decided to call him "clay" Cassius Clay was Ali's birth name.
+Nick Yushkevich Muhammad Ali's original name was Classius Clay. Also Holyfield was better than tyson but i agree Lewis should be higher
I wholeheartedly agree with 1-3, but then your list becomes retarded
Seriously the fuck is Valuev doing in your top 10
To Tyson Dynamite, PersianPS3Fanboy and those who may not know; yes Muhammad Ali did miss out on about 3 years of his prime. However Joe Louis missed out on about 4 years of pro boxing due to WWII, so take that into consideration also. Joe Louis... Legend.
Pretty legit list I would of changed a couple, but this person is knowledgeable about the sport. Good job
love the respect for Lewis
Floyd Patterson should be in top 15. Muhammad Ali is always number 1.
And he never been the real heavyweight- 185 lbs. his normal fighting weight. He can fought at middleweight and light heavy with his body constitution. Because of this- many of boxing historians respect him a lot. Real warrior...
Who, patterson?
@@alexeykasarin9992 He WAS an heavyweight for his era. Just cos he was 200lbs doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be in the top 15
Fantastic video with great music!
joe frszier#8. lennox Lewis #6 get reak frazier best left hook ever and first and third fights with Ali amongstbest ever should be 4th
Nice to see Larry Holmes in there. He must be the most under rated heavyweight of all time. At his peak he was a great fighter, and had everything in terms of boxing ability.
THE best ratings I've seen....thanks!
1. Jack Johnson (his body physic for a heavyweight boxer was out of this world)
2. Joe Louis (the power he generated with both his hands was totally immense)
3. Muhammad Ali (his speed, power and class made him a real champion)
4. Mike Tyson (19 years old Tyson with Cus'D Mato in his corner was unbeatable)
5. George Foreman (power which could kill a mule)
6. Joe Frazier (once in a lifetime, pleasure to watch)
7. Rocky Marciano (very powerful right and left)
8. Lennox Lewis (could of done more in his career nevertheless great great boxer)
9. Jack Dempsey (skill)
10. Evander Holyfield (heart of a warrior)
M Doc True, M Doc - no other fighter gets credit because of the "in his prime" argument. George Foreman - in his prime - was everything Tyson was, only bigger and stronger. And somehow he came back way AFTER "his prime" and won the title again. Careers are careers - the whole body of work. Not just the wonder years.
The Yasser Ronaldo HBO Show u mean muhammud ali is 1
The Yasser Ronaldo HBO Show ll rocky marcinao shouldnt belong to thatz list
FUKPATSHATERS! #12•4life fanboy classic. you may look at more that records. marciano fought in a very very weak era and was to slow to ever catch a boxer like ali. he didnt have chin, he was dropped by 40 something year old moore and 38 year old walcott. he then ran away from patterson anmd liston by retiering. this list is just ridiculous. johnson at nr 1?, tyson at nr. 4? No holmes but frazier?
Can watch This video over and over Again. Great feeling for atmosphere with the music and beautifull scenes. Favorite boxer will always be big George, but the best....Ali was just more than boxing Thats Why he is the greatest. quality wise I think not a popular choice but Lennox would become Damn close to be the best
Just beautiful. Well done!
Ali, Louis + Marciano should all be joint #1. They all have legitimate claim to be #1 for different valid reasons.
fair point but i think its more of a tie between ali and louis then marciano
HassanTDKR It's more between Louis and Marciano. Ali doesn't belong in that elite class.
^must be high bro
HassanTDKR Exactly what I'm thinking scrolling through this washed up fanboy's comments.
@@Mikep487 why that?
RIP Ali
Very very very good list
I would have put Ken Norton and Vitaly Klitschko in this list and I think also that Usyk is one fight from being considered an all time great.
can someone explain to me how it's possible that tyson is ranked above holyfield?
myth
Holyfield did illegal headbutting
@@aspiknf And Tyson did illegal elbows. So what's your point??
1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Lewis
5. Marciano
6. Foreman
7. Johnson
8. Frazier
9. Holyfield
10. Tyson
11. Dempsey
12. Vitali Klitschko
13. Wladimir Klitschko
14. Sonny Liston
15. Jeffries
16. Charles
17. Tunney
18. Bowe
19. Patterson
20. Norton
Remember this is not about prime its about entirety
Good list!👏
@I'll figure it out Or Sam Langford for that matter.
My list:
1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Marciano
4. Lennox Lewis
5. Tyson
6. Holmes
7. Holyfield
8. Foreman
9. Ezarld Charles
10. Vitali Klitschko
11. Joe Frazier
12. Dempsey
13. Wladimir Klitschko
14. Liston
15. Jack Johnson
16. Riddick Bowe
17. Patterson
18. Tunney
19. Jersey Joe walcott
20. Max Schmelling
1 Muhammad Ali
2 Joe Louis
3 Lennox Lewis
4 Mike Tyson
5 Rocky Marciano
6 Jack Dempsey
7Larry Holmes
8George Foreman
9 Joe Frazier
10 Evander Holyfield
LMAO @ Tyson at no. 1, completely delusional.
CoronaJoe I'm delusional. Then what are you to have the same top 11 as me. Just in different order?
***** The order makes a huge difference, Tyson did not do anything in his career that would make anyone rate him above guys who made 20-25 defenses, and never got their asses KO'ed at 23 by a slug journeyman.
Holyfield and Lewis behind Tyson? Why, in a million years, would you do that? I know, you'll have 40 excuses for Mike, say he was shot when they fought. However when he fought Holyfield, Evander had come back from heart issues, and had looked terrible against Bobby Cycz (sp), he was older and much more worn than Mikey...Why does only Mike get the "washed up" excuse made for him, just 'cause he lost?? How convenient. Everyone at the time knew what Mike had left, knew his age etc. He was still the fav going in. Yet, once he gets his ass handed to him by a superior fighter, he's suddenly washed up?? Holyfield and Lewis made more defenses, against better opposition, AND both beat him down, yet they rank behind him? You've watched way too many highlight clips, and are ranking based on personal likes rather than skills and career.
Rocky is way too high too, only made 6 defenses, and against old men.
You're right though, you do at least have the correct fighters mentioned... The delusional comment was only aimed at the 1a ranking of Tyson...cheers.
CoronaJoe You over looked the most important thing about all of them except Marciano. On any given day any one of them except him could be beaten, and still I didn't put him in the #1 slot where he belongs by right of passage being that in all the divisions of boxing only Marciano was unbeaten over a career lasting 49 fights. The first time around I did you the courtesy of not mentioning that 23 of his opponents suffered permanent damage in one form or another. The Ali that fought Frazier wouldn't get into the 7TH round with him. Joe Louis fought the toughest group by far I might add.
As for excuses, you make them for your list, not mine. As for Tyson, after 1988 he never trained, became a drug addict, and that does count in the real world?
The other thing is this. You can play the numbers game with any sport, but "on any given day".
That's my opinion about Tyson, and after talking with Manny Steward about it I'll take it over yours! Manny also stated publicly that the only two fighters he had ever seen with one punch KO power were Tommy Hearns and Tyson. Ali of the 70s doesn't get on the list, period! If you want to dispute that here's a quote from Foreman, " I don't think he ever beat Norton." Neither do I George. As you might notice it's easy to get picayune CJ. No one on that list beats Tyson 2 out of 3. In the first Holyfield fight it was over in the fifth round when Tyson hit him with a two punch combo to the body, but he had fought less than 10 round counting sparring in 6 years, and in actuality didn't recognize how badly Holyfield was hurt, so give me a break.
Save your alleged superior knowledge for the rookies and fool them, but not me. I was there for most of them as that was my business. I don't need an amateur to tell me I lived my life wrong now that I'm near the end. I lived well, supported two families, and had a lot of fun.
***** Wow, a novel. Maybe I'll read it all later.
However, having Tyson at 1 all time displays that you have very limited knowledge on the sport, and are pretty much a fanboy.
what about rocky balboa ?
LOL !!!!!!!
Xd
Couldn't beat "if Tyson was in his prime"
@@mayorcurley3321 haha the delusional argument casuals make. Spot on
Balboa #22 because Creed is #21😁
1. Jack Johnson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Joe Louis
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Larry Holmes
6. George Foreman
7. Joe Frazier
8. Jack Dempsey
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Lennox Lewis
11. Mike Tyson
And, holyfield above Tyson he beat3 him twice
It's not about who beat who. It's about accomplishments and legacy. Rocky beat Joe Louis. Rocky isn't greater than Joe Louis. Gene Tunney beat Jack Dempsey twice. Dempsey is held in higher regard because of legacy.
@@DepressionShaman agreed.
@@DepressionShaman nah its stupid casuals like you who rate them like that. Dempsey was a duck who was beaten by a light heavy champ in tunney. Rocky beat old man louis coming off a long layoff and nobody credits that as his best win. Heck not even 2nd or 3rd best. Those are between ezzard, archie and Jersey joe.
Tyson was an early bloomer who was fortunate enough to be in the right place at the right time when he best fighters from a previous generation.
You can’t say that, Tyson wasn’t in his prime
@boxing fan uk Not every win over all time greats are created equal. There's politics of boxing, where both fighters were in their careers, how many title defenses they had or how deep their resumes were. There are some very good fights who were world champions who actually beat HOF boxers who AREN'T in the HOF themselves. Is Oliver McCall a HOFer? Buster Douglas? Ray Mercer? Tommy Morrison? Leon Spinks? James J Braddock? The journey every fighter takes is different. Some are late bloomers. Some have a shitload of loses (Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles), but they're still HOFers. Some were held back by the politics of the sport (Archie Moore comes to mind).
It's about what you contributed to the sport and what your legacy is. Can anyone have a serious discussion about the history of the sport and NOT mention your name as a contributor?
rocky over foreman is a joke. i mean come on people. the height and reach advantage. classic example of i like him so therefore i rate him higher. rocky isn't even in the top ten.
so tyson fury is above foreman because of height and reach?
great vid Rez
vitali klitschko should have been there in the top 10. he was way better then his brother, and he could beat any body on this list on a given day. he was the best ko artist the HW devision ever saw, he was never knocked down, never behind on the score cards, and his only two loses came because of an injury while he was leading on the score cards by far. how can he be out of this list?
holyfield should have bee ranked above tyson
exactly
so funny ;)
Old School Boxing
Artur Hakobyan he beat the shit out of him. TWICE so wdym funny?
Great video, great music, this is an amazing video, well done to the maker of this video!
Rocky marciano for first !!
How on God's earth do you put Lennox Lewis who didn't fight Tyson or Holyfield til they were past their prime over Joe Frazier.....are you MAD!
vincespell you are so fuckin right man
i got mad respect for joe,this guy was not just a fighter,he was a warrior.
fighters aint made like that no more,sadly.
Amazing video especially the ending with Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali.
I belive Langford and Wills are the two most underrated heavyweights ever and should be alot higher, top 10 at the least (I have Langford 3rd)
-Langford was a 5x coloured heavyweight champion with 41 title defences.
-Wills was a 3x coloured heavyweight champion with 25 title defences.
Although Langford did lose to Johnson but he was a much smaller man only weighing around 154Ibs at the time, believe there was something like a 35Ibs difference. I believe post 1910 Langford who weight around 175-185Ibs and had experience at the weight fighting bigger men would of beat Johnson if they fought (I would pick Johnson to win in their primes). He fought all the other top heavyweights like Wills, Jeanette and Mcvea multiple time.
Sonny?
Vitali belongs on this list! His only true loss was to Lennox - who was fantastic - and Vitali was ahead on points. His other loss was to Chris Byrd when he tore his rotator. He was annihilating Byrd otherwise. I don't believe he's ever been behind in a fight beyond the 3rd round.
I love the moment Ali stopped punch when Foremen falling down.