He's carrying them on this video. He has his disability, is how much older than them, and they still can't keep up with his playing? What's the rest of the bands excuses - no spine desease, younger, etc and they STILL have to use backing tracks to keep the songs together! F*ckin' pathetic. #teammick @mr.mickmarrs
Hearing this just makes me feel more depressed about the state of Motley Crue's live performances. Vince is still able enough to put in a much better effort, but just can't be fucked trying. Meanwhile Mick has been suffering from a degenerative disease that causes him severe physical pain right from the start of the band, and he kept on top of his game to the absolute best of his abilities right up until he left.
@@hardyhardyha5767I sincerely think if they strapped his feet to the stage so he couldn't move around he'd do fine. He's still so out of shape that just walking across the stage leaves him out of breath. It's embarrassing.
Mick is nailing it, by the time Kickstart is on its first chorus Vince is knackered. Timing is out, can’t get the words out…. He’s done, meanwhile Mick, who has a debilitating disease is holding it all together. This guy is Crue 🤘
Yes I agree, even with the click I believe it wouldn't be easy for anybody to concentrate on playing the guitar in time (but Mick does very well!) when Vince is singing so off or behind the beat ;-) Sorry Vince :-/ But these girls are in pretty good shape :-P
@@Tattdgoose this seems different to me and I could be wrong. I've heard a lot of IEM mixes and, of course, every musician wants what they want in their mix and they can be weird. But this just feels like he doesn't want anything to do, or at least very little to do, with the band onstage vibe.
Mick Mars guitar playing can’t be faked. His guitar tone and his guitar skills and rig are insane. Sounded insane and spot on. I saw him live in Chula Vista. His guitar solo alone melted my face off.
Mick's playing is spot on and killer. And that guitar tone is just 🔥🔥🔥. This does not sound like a musician that needed to be "propped up " as Sixx claims.
Mick Mars, the oldest in the group, the only one with a crippling disease, and the only one who still played live till he took a step back. He literally carried a band for 40 years that relied on theatrics.
Mick always seemed like the odd guy out in Motley Crue. Vince, Nikki and Tommy were always wrapped up in their bro-ship and Mick was always the consummate guitar god. He is up there with Jimmy Page in my rating of who has the most signature riffs. He gave them musical credibility with his guitar sound. Otherwise they just look like a bunch of ridiculous old guys trying to act like they are still 25. Pathetic.
@@billybee3423saw interviews of him and he is genuine and down to earth. He is also a very underrated guitarist and has his own sound with an immense guitarbtone
I love The Crüe as a whole, original solid members. But he always says he's doing it for the music and fans. It's not for the promotion, the chicks lifting their tops, the over-the-top luxury touring transportation. I doubt he even wanted as much spent and effort put into the stage and tricks. The Stadium Tour had a variety of bands, almost all from one era where they shined. But they all different stage setups. Check out Classless Heroes. Joan has money and fame, she could've had the over-the-top stage stuff. Def was a basic stage too. The eyes and mind can o my take in so much. Overcompensating? I hate to say it, but the Crüe stage was just 3 guys' wildest dreams. And that's great that they have the money and power to live that dream. But was that all necessary? Maybe if I was high or drink, (which I definitely am not), I would lose my mind at all there is to take in. I saw the Crüe when Tommy couldn't have alcohol in the arena. It was bare bones, great music, and the real fans loved it.
Mick may not be a shredder, but his tone and musicality is fantastic. His ability to write songs with groove and aggression is top notch. At his age he can still play and sound great. God bless Mick.
On the contrary, Mick is quite the shredder, or was due to his medical condition, it's just the music they were playing didn't really call for it. Mick is a beast!
No, he's a shredder. He is THEE Shredder. He is all the great things that r said about him. But he has played raunchy, dirty, and fingers bleeding. That's my definition of a shredder.
Can't imagine having that in my ear night after night, sounds like a guy hammering wall tile in a bathroom. And Mick SHREDS. I hear nothing to suggest this man has lost a step. At that age, with that disease.. Mick was Motley MVP.
That's the work part of it. He sounds great. So much for the other guy's argument. I guess he has a little bit of Vince in for reference/keep his place in the song.
@@stevenlornie1261 Agreed. When I record I like to have at least the drums playing for the vibe (I struggle sometimes with delivering the right energy if its just a click track because there's no reference), but i rarely even hear the click as it just blends it but it still keeps me in time subconsciously.
Very interesting stuff..Mick tearing it up..at 70 years old with a debilatating disease.!!.So cool to hear the song title, count offs that Mick heard. Too bad he had to hear any of Vince.
Metronome..with a Lil bit of Vince...lyrics might help him in a brain fart situation... He plays live..unlike the rest..Vince sings over his own studio recordings..Sixx..is all tape..I think Lee is to...Funny the 2 guys that make up the tone the sound are at least trying to play live...Well Mick is..Vince kida does 😂 CRUE CRUE CRUE CRUE CRUE...LET IT GO BOYZ. .MOTLEY IS DONE...IMO ANY OF THE 4 LEAVE ITS OVER..
@@kevinknight8889 No, I could hear Tommy Lee going off time several times. If Lee is wearing in ears that’s a sad statement. Our guys at church are like clockwork with clicks. There should be no reason to be off time when you have as many years invested as him.
@@mississippisnowplowthere's a few reasons a drummer might use a click. There's preprogrammed lighting and backing vocal tracks (at least during the chorus on "Girls"). The band needs to be playing at the exact tempo for those to match up perfectly. Clicks aren't always (and usually aren't) a timekeeping crutch.
@@Jaggerbush excuse you? Mick is the sound, the music, and is why you know Motley Crue when you hear it. Additionally, ol Nicolas Suxx is a blowhard, every hear 6am? nothing like the crue, ever hear Micks solo dabble that he did a few years ago? total rock like original MC. Sixx talks like he is the brain, if it wasnt for Mick, we wouldnt know who motley crue was/is except another 80's flash in the pan band.
Meh. Wouldn't say the best tone. He needed to tighten up the low end chugs. Sounds ok in the mix but the bottom is really floppy. The palm mutes don't have the punch they should. Still a good cabinet sound, though. His chorus sounds pretty good, too.
Doesn't matter how much you love the band or how well you guys get along. You're in your 70s, doing exhausting tours, big giant loud stadiums with masses of screaming fans, can't hear anyone if they were 5 ft in front of you, the click track is a lifesaver.
He's been playing the same songs for 40 years I would hope if he's playing he would have it down pretty good. Which it doesn't show him play a whole lot but he was on point with that slide throw to solo so I'm sure he's playing. Or maybe he's the only guy trying to not look like an old goof ball like Vince and Nikki. I don't see why there's a big deal over his in ears? They've been playing the same stuff for decades doing the same stuff they practice everything so they know everyone's parts whose doing what when. Maybe just listening to a click part of Vince and a random ai voice is all he needs? What's Tommy's in ears? I've watched him and he looks pretty spot on?..
Team Mick !!! This was actually quite interesting. I think I'd have to have at least a little bit of the "pre-recorded bass and drum" tracks fed through just to make sure I didn't get lost. The click track is kind of hypnotizing if you let it. I'm guessing someone close to the band let this leak out, so whomever it was, thanks.....Proves a point Mick's fkn kicking ass.. and Holy shit that guitar Tone....
@@johanlundkvist515 Yeah, that's the click track. Like a metronome, all band members will have that piped into their in-ears. It's like the foundation that they all build their tracks on top of. It's so they know where they are at all times in the tempo.
Motley Crue has a guitar sound, that sound is Mick. Distinguished from any other guitarist, and he sounded on point, just like a Mick song should. #teammick
Wow, that would drive me nuts listening to that all night every night.. give me monitors and hearing loss any day, the way it was always done 😅😅 Mick is tearing thru it so no question he is the truly only “Live” musician on stage, you could see Nikki adjusting his mic while Bass continued to play and Vince also dropped mic hand while his vocals continued not that this is even a question anymore.. Mick we all are in your corner, put out your album and you will see how many true fans you alone have \m/
You get used to the click. It takes some getting used to the first time you play with it. Now I don’t like playing without it. You would be surprised how much tempos fluctuate playing live without a click. As a drummer, I turn up the bass in my IEMs and have guitars, keys and vocals down, but still audible. If I was playing with MC, I would turn up the the bass backing track and Mick! I wonder if they even put a battery in Nikki’s pack? Lol
@@gadnur never turn up bass in crue youll be lost always listen to mick 95% of the time if you want to be correct the other five is bass and vocals cues
@@gadnur it also helps if your drummer isn't washed up like Tommy Lee is these days. That's probably the biggest reason for click track. He can't trust Tommy. The dude keeps breaking his ribs anyway..
Mick was spot on and adding a little flare since he's been playing the songs for decades. I mean there was a teleprompter giving Vince Lyrics and he still gets them wrong but we won't talk about that.
It's Mick's personal monitor mix (what he wanted to hear at the show). Mick's mix (what Mick wanted to hear) is almost entirely the click track (with count-in cues) and his guitar. It shows that Mick's guitar playing is 100% played live here. People - let's get real. Mick Mars, despite what his bandmates claim in their response to Mick's 4/6/23 legal complaint, can and did play live. Based on claims from Mick and others, Mick was the only member of Motley Crue on the stage in 2022 playing entirely live.
Mick has been the most down to Earth member of this band. I met all of them more than once. All gracious but Mick stood out because he wasn't about look at me and Vince would have to be next. Although Vince's vocal has declined I can't say a bad thing about him he was always great in person. Mick I met long enough to get a few things signed and tell him how much of an inspiration he was. He was a man of few words and you could tell he was uncomfortable pain wise. I had only two things I wanted signed a denim jacket and the Rolling Stone mag. After Mick finished he saud with surprise this is it? He boarded the plane to take a seat. Vince was also very gracious but again uncomfortable and all business. I met them all on an airport tarmac. When we walked out, well I actually drove out. This was impromptu it was private property and they could had easily had us tossed. This was immediately following their first presser for the Motley vs The Earth tour. Instead we watched them do a photo shoot next to the plane and patiently waited. Mick and Vince were the first to acknowledge us Nikki and Tommy spent the most time. It wasn't the time that mattered though it was the quality of time and Mick and Vince were the most real. Nikki and Tommy were engaging and conversated the longest but it felt like a bit fake. Mick deserves everything he's asking for imo. I'm surprised Vince is mum because he's been through this but I'm sure after the business is done Vince will let his POV known. From what I've heard Vince may have had a role in why Mick wanted out not because of conflict but because how he was treated and Mick was tired of it.
Mick sounds great. I don't understand how they can allow their singer to carry on like this. I can only assume they don't have him in their IEMs so they don't know how bad he is. It's very frustrating to be a fan of this band anymore. They've been my favourite band ever since I heard them when I was 7 years old in 1983, and it hurts to not like what they are now. As much as I love the albums, it's frustrating listening to them because of how they've tarnished their legacy. They were never graceful, but at least they used to care.
U have been the first to hit my heart in this comment section. I've been there since I was a kid too. I want them all so er, functioning, fulfilling life's best goals, family, etc, but it's coming at great cost. And it feels to us. We r paying ALOT more, stuck in a gigantic stadium with heat stroke or risk for shock during lightning storms. The pandemic was REALLY bad for the majority of people in the world. Paying $125 for a ticket, plus all the travel, etc, is, for some people, the highlight of their lives. There has always been some infighting, normal with close people. Except when it's a huge change, Vince leaving, Tommy leaving, Mick being me as r dead, and Nikki with his side projects, we r getting less fulfilled. I love them, from the standpoint of the great times. I'm choosing not to focus on what skeptics say, or what we hear. The Dirt was well done, except I didn't like the truly vile parts and the fluffing. I doubt most fans new that Mick had a very serious disease and was wasting away. To see him play these past few years makes tears well up. He's a remarkable human. People keep ragging on Vince's voice. It is rare that a raw singer can sound exactly like their album. Those stadiums have all kinds sof sound implications. I don't sound like I did 40 years ago, and I haven't lived a life like Vince. As a long time fan, the way this is playing out is just not cool. Someone isn't telling the truth, and I hate to say it, but I think it isn't Mick. And it shouldn't be about the other 17.5% income. There has to be someone that stands up for the fans and says play live. John 5 is one of the only buys, (that I've ever heard), play guitar that makes me want him to play all my fave songs. When Metallica played Sweet Home Alabama at a concert years ago, it was exhilarating! These r ur favorite musicians, so I pay to hear u play the songs u wrote, with a bit of the original, but some 2023 flavor. I like crowd work. I like laughing and fun between the guys. Maybe I haven't evolved past the 80s Crüe, and I can accept that.
💯. We must be close in age. I was also 7 in 1983, I remember all the videos from Shout at the Devil being on our Friday Night Video show. I obsessed with them every since... Well I kinda dropped off the Motley Crue radar. After they fired Vince and got a new singer, and then Vince coming back... I got sick of the childish drama.
@Matt_Dylan Nikki wrote lyrics. Don’t give him too much credit there. We all know Nikki did not write the guitar parts. And to be an,e to write music you have to be able to at least play the instrument your writing for. Nikki does not even play his bass. Complete fraud. Well I guess he can write cheesy lyrics.
@Mike Palmer exactly. Let's have Nikki and Mick in a courtroom with instruments and let's see who can actually play live. Everyone knows Nikki is a fraud, hack and a tool. Plays the bass my ass 😂😂😂
This is fascinating! I always wondered what they heard in their ear monitors. I figured they heard their own instruments or vocals for the singer and I heard about the click track but I didn’t know the guitarists had that too. I thought only the drummers did. Well I’ve been a little more educated tonight. And Mick, you deserve more, man! ❤
If he didn't hear the click track, he would have to hear Tommy - they all have to play to the same beat! lol. Hence, the reason for the click track (metronome) and it's much easier to just listen to the click track then try to decipher the beat through all the cymbals and other generated noise through the mics. Plus, it sounded like Tommy strains to keep up with the clicker, and would throw Mick off a little. It's easier, better, and more accurate to just listen to the metronome.
When I played in bands (bass player here) I usually had kick, hat, and snare highest in the mix with just enough guitar and vocals for me to keep track with where we were in the song. I sang backup/harmony so vox were a little higher in the mix. I could barely hear myself which was fine with me, you can still hear a little bit of the live sounds coming from the PA so I didn’t find it necessary to have me in my own ear.
That's what's playing in his in-ear monitor, but on the scene he can still hear the other members bleeding through. That's why the metronome is so loud, so he can hear it over the whole band playing.
If this goes to court, Mick should win... Convincingly. and if I had to carry that band on my back, I'd have spine issues too. Team Mick all the way !!!
Holy shit... All these years and I had no idea Mick was this damn good. The tone and pacing is next level. It must feel like TAKING CRAZY PILLS when you are the only musician in the band and yet the band is united against you. Click track had me cracking up especially with the "1 2 3.. Start" inserts because the rest of the band is so dogshit you never know where you are going
This may be all that Mick has in his I.E.M. but it's not all that he is hearing on stage. He can still hear the live drums, vocals, etc. from the live amps and side fills they are still running. I used to only run my vocal and my guitar in my head. It gave me some isolation and clarity to what I was doing without ever competing volume-wise with anything else, but I could still hear the other things going on around me. And yes, the click becomes part of your experience but you stop noticing it.
They likely aren't using live amps on stage. Guitars are isoboxed or more likely in a processor like a Kemper. Bass is almost always DI'd (or in this case, prerecorded). Only thing he can likely hear on stage live are the drums, and the click is pretty much doing the same thing as Tommy, so no reason to hear them.
I don't why this would have been released, unless this is to prove Mick's point. He sounds pretty good and you can hear just enough of Vince to hear him mangle the songs, like he has for ages.
Mick has always been this Band! He was the true ole skool musician! He grabbed what would and could make the times. Now it's the the little boy z that still are..against him. I think not! Mick is the Crue! I hope u see this Mick!! Love for mick..for makin the crue...Now u need to bring it down. U will be known as Crue!
No one can replace The great Mick Mars period! I got to see the Crue live in Michigan over 100.000 ppl. promoting Shout at the Devil tour with Ozzy, Ratt, Accept, Tramph n a few other bands. And again just b4 the pandemic! Rock on..!! 🤘🏽.
Mick Mars is the heart and soul of the Crue easy, his guitar playing is perfect and for me he always gave the guy's a run for their money when it comes to musicianship and being a good person the rest of the crue have always been primadonas mick cared about the craft the music and being hisself 100%-TEAM MICK all day
It's total horseshit - You can clearly hear the bass and drums, plus on 100's of other videos. People should look more instead of believing the first thing they read
YES!!! This sounds like REAL ROCK 'N ROLL!!! Thank you for keeping _real, live music_ alive Motley Spew!! I'm amazed how well you managed to pull off the backing vocals as EXACTLY as you did on the albums decades ago! /s
I’m not the biggest Mick Mars fan at all especially after hearing how he treated the great Jake E. Lee back in the day. But I have to admit it, cat is CRUSHING all his parts, and is totally rhythmically in sync! Kudos to the Crypt Keeper!💯👏🏾👏🏾🤘🏾🤣🤣🤣
If only they could manipulate the click track in Vince's ear to be a half second ahead of the rest of the band, he might sing in time. Someone needs to do a video of them playing bass to what Nikki is miming.
Wow. 🙄 They should have called themselves The Has-Beens with special guest star: Mr Mick Mars. That poor guy. I hope he gets every damn cent out of those posers. He deserves it all. Long live Mick Mars!
This was amazing thank you so much for sharing this - wherever it came from! Mick is just a level above :) Such a shame Vince doesn't even try to put the effort in.
The other 3 guys are just about the cash. Why push your performance when suckers pay money anyways? The only one that seems to have integrity up there is Mick. Maybe I can cut Tommy some slack as I couldn't hear him very well but when I did, he was out of time. Which that's fine as long as you snap back in the pocket within a beat or 2. Vince and Sixx are just mailing it in.
Mick is the unqualified backbone of crue.. he's the best at what he does... and to do all that and endure all the pain he goes thru each and every day with his back condition is just phenomenal ! Keep up the great work Mick ! Proud of you brother !
I'm with Mick on this one for sure.
I’m with Mick
Mick was the only one that wasn't a dick.
I watched The Dirt the other night and Mick in the movie says, “My back hurts from carrying this band.” He’s been at it for years! #teamMick
Mick has carried Crue for 40 + yrs!
"lol"
Really? 9th, 10th grade, I'm guessing?
@@gavinvalentino6002 why did you put lol in quotes? 60, 70 IQ I’m guessing?
He's carrying them on this video. He has his disability, is how much older than them, and they still can't keep up with his playing? What's the rest of the bands excuses - no spine desease, younger, etc and they STILL have to use backing tracks to keep the songs together! F*ckin' pathetic. #teammick @mr.mickmarrs
40.years of elder abuse
This is the best sounding live clip from the crue in years. 😂 🤟
nailed it!
Hearing this just makes me feel more depressed about the state of Motley Crue's live performances. Vince is still able enough to put in a much better effort, but just can't be fucked trying.
Meanwhile Mick has been suffering from a degenerative disease that causes him severe physical pain right from the start of the band, and he kept on top of his game to the absolute best of his abilities right up until he left.
Probably because it’s mainly Mick lol
@@hardyhardyha5767I sincerely think if they strapped his feet to the stage so he couldn't move around he'd do fine. He's still so out of shape that just walking across the stage leaves him out of breath. It's embarrassing.
@@RyanConnell5150fr 💀
Mick is nailing it, by the time Kickstart is on its first chorus Vince is knackered. Timing is out, can’t get the words out…. He’s done, meanwhile Mick, who has a debilitating disease is holding it all together. This guy is Crue 🤘
No Doubt!
we need a new crue
Yes I agree, even with the click I believe it wouldn't be easy for anybody to concentrate on playing the guitar in time (but Mick does very well!) when Vince is singing so off or behind the beat ;-) Sorry Vince :-/ But these girls are in pretty good shape :-P
Vince is the worst thing to happen to Rock in this lifetime
@@iiiSK8orDI3iii No.
i love it. he has zero of the other guys in his ears....just a click and a tiny bit of vince for cues. Team Mick 1000%
surprised Mick is so consistent, listen to how bad Vince keeps falling out of time here
What’s your Dad think?!!
I agree. He's almost avoiding the band.
Probably why he plays to the click track
@@Tattdgoose this seems different to me and I could be wrong. I've heard a lot of IEM mixes and, of course, every musician wants what they want in their mix and they can be weird. But this just feels like he doesn't want anything to do, or at least very little to do, with the band onstage vibe.
Mick is the Crue!!! Give the man his due and his money!!!
judging on Nikki's personality? he will do anything not giving any money to Mick in life. Nothing. Nikki is basically the Glam Metal of Trump.
He is getting his money. Calm down Karen
@@wheeler2816 You know something both sets of lawyers don’t about a case that hasn’t even happened yet? Try reading some music news, jackass 😂
Amen to that.
No Mick = No Motley Crue
That guitar tone is absolutely massive, there’s a skill in just controlling a tone that huge and not making a mess. Fair play Mick.
Mick Mars guitar playing can’t be faked. His guitar tone and his guitar skills and rig are insane. Sounded insane and spot on. I saw him live in Chula Vista. His guitar solo alone melted my face off.
Saw them in Anchorage in 2000's, i remember Mick's Guitar,,,,,,,,,,Killer
It's so good I'm skeptical someone hasn't just put John 5 over a Mick Mars gig.
I've seen Mick play since 1983. He is highly underrated.
Hi fellow San Diegan 😃
C,mon,his guitar skills are far from insane lmao
Mick's playing is spot on and killer. And that guitar tone is just 🔥🔥🔥. This does not sound like a musician that needed to be "propped up " as Sixx claims.
That was a low down dig at Mick's ailment...Nickie can suck a bag of corks...
Mick You have My support too 🙏
Truth......mick sounds stellar
I've said it before, mick is the sound of the band. John 5 will suck.
Amen to that!!!
Mick Mars, the oldest in the group, the only one with a crippling disease, and the only one who still played live till he took a step back. He literally carried a band for 40 years that relied on theatrics.
Mick always seemed like the odd guy out in Motley Crue. Vince, Nikki and Tommy were always wrapped up in their bro-ship and Mick was always the consummate guitar god. He is up there with Jimmy Page in my rating of who has the most signature riffs. He gave them musical credibility with his guitar sound. Otherwise they just look like a bunch of ridiculous old guys trying to act like they are still 25. Pathetic.
He took a step back and then was unceremoniously fired.
You forgot “the only one who isn’t a piece of shit human being” (imho).
@@billybee3423 and the only one that plays live.
@@billybee3423saw interviews of him and he is genuine and down to earth. He is also a very underrated guitarist and has his own sound with an immense guitarbtone
Flawless playing. Mick's live sound is amazing - so thick and beautifully distorted. He is the best player in the band.
When I was younger, I'd play air bass, now Nikki does. It seems like he learned more from me than I did from him.
😂 👍
He is.a.good songwriter that's why he made it.
maybe the age kicks in at last? I don't know why they fake playing all the sudden
@@ludocrious7898 Of course it does when they should have quit like they said they would in 015 rather than just another cash grab.
@@anthonylynch4737 maybe someone forced them, the company.. maybe they gone poor..er? who the fuck knows xD it's Mötley Crüe
Most skilled person in the band...still. Team Mick.
Mick is the heart of this band. Its not Crue w/o him. One of my favorite guitarists of all time. Killer tone, killer rhythm, killer riffs.
I love The Crüe as a whole, original solid members. But he always says he's doing it for the music and fans. It's not for the promotion, the chicks lifting their tops, the over-the-top luxury touring transportation. I doubt he even wanted as much spent and effort put into the stage and tricks. The Stadium Tour had a variety of bands, almost all from one era where they shined. But they all different stage setups. Check out Classless Heroes. Joan has money and fame, she could've had the over-the-top stage stuff. Def was a basic stage too. The eyes and mind can o my take in so much. Overcompensating? I hate to say it, but the Crüe stage was just 3 guys' wildest dreams. And that's great that they have the money and power to live that dream. But was that all necessary? Maybe if I was high or drink, (which I definitely am not), I would lose my mind at all there is to take in. I saw the Crüe when Tommy couldn't have alcohol in the arena. It was bare bones, great music, and the real fans loved it.
Mick may not be a shredder, but his tone and musicality is fantastic. His ability to write songs with groove and aggression is top notch. At his age he can still play and sound great. God bless Mick.
He's very blues influenced which is why he was a fan of Les Pauls and still is. He can shred but that's not his style
On the contrary, Mick is quite the shredder, or was due to his medical condition, it's just the music they were playing didn't really call for it. Mick is a beast!
He can shred if he wants to. He’s the real Deal. 100% Pro musician
No, he's a shredder. He is THEE Shredder. He is all the great things that r said about him. But he has played raunchy, dirty, and fingers bleeding. That's my definition of a shredder.
Except he didn't write any of the songs. Nikki did. His playing was excellent though.
Can't imagine having that in my ear night after night, sounds like a guy hammering wall tile in a bathroom. And Mick SHREDS. I hear nothing to suggest this man has lost a step. At that age, with that disease.. Mick was Motley MVP.
That would drive me nutz
That's the work part of it. He sounds great. So much for the other guy's argument. I guess he has a little bit of Vince in for reference/keep his place in the song.
@@Swanlord05 Believe it or not, you get use to it when playing. It just blends in to everything when you're on time.
@@stevenlornie1261 Agreed. When I record I like to have at least the drums playing for the vibe (I struggle sometimes with delivering the right energy if its just a click track because there's no reference), but i rarely even hear the click as it just blends it but it still keeps me in time subconsciously.
I hate them. I don't use in-ears.
Mick tears it up! He is their sound!
Holy sh*t. Mick’s playing is awesome. Long live the true soul of Mötley Crüe.
Mick is killing it. He was the best part of the show when I saw them.
Mick Mars it's an impressively solid & steady player👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Very interesting stuff..Mick tearing it up..at 70 years old with a debilatating disease.!!.So cool to hear the song title, count offs that Mick heard. Too bad he had to hear any of Vince.
Metronome..with a Lil bit of Vince...lyrics might help him in a brain fart situation...
He plays live..unlike the rest..Vince sings over his own studio recordings..Sixx..is all tape..I think Lee is to...Funny the 2 guys that make up the tone the sound are at least trying to play live...Well Mick is..Vince kida does 😂 CRUE CRUE CRUE CRUE CRUE...LET IT GO BOYZ. .MOTLEY IS DONE...IMO ANY OF THE 4 LEAVE ITS OVER..
Bahahahahahaha Lmao
@@kevinknight8889
No, I could hear Tommy Lee going off time several times. If Lee is wearing in ears that’s a sad statement. Our guys at church are like clockwork with clicks. There should be no reason to be off time when you have as many years invested as him.
It would sound like an old man having an orgasm. Nothing any of us need to hear.
@@mississippisnowplowthere's a few reasons a drummer might use a click. There's preprogrammed lighting and backing vocal tracks (at least during the chorus on "Girls"). The band needs to be playing at the exact tempo for those to match up perfectly. Clicks aren't always (and usually aren't) a timekeeping crutch.
Mick Mars guitar tone is one of the best in metal! Love his playing! One of the most underrated guitar players out there !
Mick is one of the most underrated metal guitarists of all time.
No.
So am I.
Micks tone alone is worth 30%
For a guy that didn’t pen one song on his own and isn’t out there preforming and promoting every night… okay boss.
So buttery and smooth!
@William Murphy you do realize you get paid for writing music, right? Not just lyrics?
The tone is off the chain !!
@@Jaggerbush excuse you? Mick is the sound, the music, and is why you know Motley Crue when you hear it. Additionally, ol Nicolas Suxx is a blowhard, every hear 6am? nothing like the crue, ever hear Micks solo dabble that he did a few years ago? total rock like original MC. Sixx talks like he is the brain, if it wasnt for Mick, we wouldnt know who motley crue was/is except another 80's flash in the pan band.
Mick has one of the best tones of the era, and his riffs were pretty much the sound of the band.
Meh. Wouldn't say the best tone. He needed to tighten up the low end chugs. Sounds ok in the mix but the bottom is really floppy. The palm mutes don't have the punch they should. Still a good cabinet sound, though. His chorus sounds pretty good, too.
Mick's guitar on Primal is so fkn dirty I love it. Mick you're a legend bro
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Mick’s playing is spot on 100% Rock N Roll.
The best seat in the house. You can't hear Vince at all.
It was the guitar that first attracted me to Motley Crue back in the early 80's. Back then guitar was God.
Same 😁🤘🏻
Mick has always brought it!!!
They really don't know who they get rid of, one of the most underrated guitar player, thanks Mick for all these great riff.
This absolutely strengthens Mick case! He wasn't perfect but by far the best one in the band
#teammick
This also shows, to a large degree, that he isn't into the band dynamic - just his playing and tempo. And his playing is great.
@Hippie Farmer yeah Nikki always kinda sucked compared to other bassists in his genre
Doesn't matter how much you love the band or how well you guys get along. You're in your 70s, doing exhausting tours, big giant loud stadiums with masses of screaming fans, can't hear anyone if they were 5 ft in front of you, the click track is a lifesaver.
Mick's tone is massive!
I been playing guitar for 40 years... Mic's playing and timing is solid.
Same here. Never thought much of Mick as a player, tbh. But he sounds great here. Not sure what more you’d want from your guitarist…
He's been playing the same songs for 40 years I would hope if he's playing he would have it down pretty good. Which it doesn't show him play a whole lot but he was on point with that slide throw to solo so I'm sure he's playing. Or maybe he's the only guy trying to not look like an old goof ball like Vince and Nikki. I don't see why there's a big deal over his in ears? They've been playing the same stuff for decades doing the same stuff they practice everything so they know everyone's parts whose doing what when. Maybe just listening to a click part of Vince and a random ai voice is all he needs? What's Tommy's in ears? I've watched him and he looks pretty spot on?..
This is gold, Micks tone is fackin’ killer as is his playing. Really enjoyed the ‘sneak inside listen’ to Micks IEM.
Team Mick !!!
This was actually quite interesting. I think I'd have to have at least a little bit of the "pre-recorded bass and drum" tracks fed through just to make sure I didn't get lost. The click track is kind of hypnotizing if you let it. I'm guessing someone close to the band let this leak out, so whomever it was, thanks.....Proves a point Mick's fkn kicking ass.. and Holy shit that guitar Tone....
He has that annoying click-sound in his in ear monitors all the time?
@@johanlundkvist515 Yeah, that's the click track. Like a metronome, all band members will have that piped into their in-ears. It's like the foundation that they all build their tracks on top of. It's so they know where they are at all times in the tempo.
Perfect tone
Agreed.. that tone is righteous
@@johanlundkvist515 I'm a professional musician. Trust me you get used to it to the point where you don't even really hear it anymore.
Mick Mars playing is great !! He’s killing it !!
Tengo 52 años y soy Guitarrista. Padezco la misma enfermedad que mi Mick. Lo entiendo y Amo lo que hace. Animo Superstar Mick Crue.
Best wishes, buddy.
Tone is ENORMOUS. Thats the sound right there!
Having to play along Vince Neil's vocals is a superhuman challenge even with the aid of a click track...Mick is a pro...the other guys are clowns
Probably why Mick has Vince so low in his mix that he can only hear enough to know where Vince is meandering haha
For real. Who would want to listen to that cat strangling
He's a joke. Kinda always has been, but jeez
Tommy is a good drummer, but the other two... yep.
@@briangregory8223 was.
How good is the intro to Kickstart. Mick killing it out there! #TeamMick
Motley Crue has a guitar sound, that sound is Mick.
Distinguished from any other guitarist, and he sounded on point, just like a Mick song should.
#teammick
He sounds PHENOMENAL ! #teammick
Really shows everything Mick said about the shows is entirely true..
Wow, that would drive me nuts listening to that all night every night.. give me monitors and hearing loss any day, the way it was always done 😅😅 Mick is tearing thru it so no question he is the truly only “Live” musician on stage, you could see Nikki adjusting his mic while Bass continued to play and Vince also dropped mic hand while his vocals continued not that this is even a question anymore.. Mick we all are in your corner, put out your album and you will see how many true fans you alone have \m/
You get used to the click. It takes some getting used to the first time you play with it. Now I don’t like playing without it. You would be surprised how much tempos fluctuate playing live without a click. As a drummer, I turn up the bass in my IEMs and have guitars, keys and vocals down, but still audible. If I was playing with MC, I would turn up the the bass backing track and Mick! I wonder if they even put a battery in Nikki’s pack? Lol
@@gadnur never turn up bass in crue youll be lost always listen to mick 95% of the time if you want to be correct the other five is bass and vocals cues
@@gadnur it also helps if your drummer isn't washed up like Tommy Lee is these days. That's probably the biggest reason for click track. He can't trust Tommy. The dude keeps breaking his ribs anyway..
Good luck with that. Most places are like this now.
@@metpach drummers use click tracks too 😂
Mick was spot on and adding a little flare since he's been playing the songs for decades. I mean there was a teleprompter giving Vince Lyrics and he still gets them wrong but we won't talk about that.
Mick played perfectly. What a pleasure to listen to.
Mick's tone sick as fuuuuck
I wish he'd share his secret, I'm afraid he's going to take that tone to the grave with him.
Soldano slo into a detune stereo delay into a vht/fryette stereo power amp. Same setup for thirty years.
@@chasebeavers I've heard that set up before and a few others from him. I'm not sure that anyone other than him really knows for sure. lol
It's Mick's personal monitor mix (what he wanted to hear at the show). Mick's mix (what Mick wanted to hear) is almost entirely the click track (with count-in cues) and his guitar. It shows that Mick's guitar playing is 100% played live here.
People - let's get real. Mick Mars, despite what his bandmates claim in their response to Mick's 4/6/23 legal complaint, can and did play live. Based on claims from Mick and others, Mick was the only member of Motley Crue on the stage in 2022 playing entirely live.
God bless the camera guy for the first 98 seconds of this video.
Mick sounds tight as ever. One of the greatest rhythm guitarists there is.
Mick has been the most down to Earth member of this band. I met all of them more than once. All gracious but Mick stood out because he wasn't about look at me and Vince would have to be next. Although Vince's vocal has declined I can't say a bad thing about him he was always great in person. Mick I met long enough to get a few things signed and tell him how much of an inspiration he was. He was a man of few words and you could tell he was uncomfortable pain wise. I had only two things I wanted signed a denim jacket and the Rolling Stone mag. After Mick finished he saud with surprise this is it? He boarded the plane to take a seat. Vince was also very gracious but again uncomfortable and all business. I met them all on an airport tarmac. When we walked out, well I actually drove out. This was impromptu it was private property and they could had easily had us tossed. This was immediately following their first presser for the Motley vs The Earth tour. Instead we watched them do a photo shoot next to the plane and patiently waited. Mick and Vince were the first to acknowledge us Nikki and Tommy spent the most time. It wasn't the time that mattered though it was the quality of time and Mick and Vince were the most real. Nikki and Tommy were engaging and conversated the longest but it felt like a bit fake. Mick deserves everything he's asking for imo. I'm surprised Vince is mum because he's been through this but I'm sure after the business is done Vince will let his POV known. From what I've heard Vince may have had a role in why Mick wanted out not because of conflict but because how he was treated and Mick was tired of it.
One thing is for sure... Mick just nails it!! Fantastic!
Mick sounds great. I don't understand how they can allow their singer to carry on like this. I can only assume they don't have him in their IEMs so they don't know how bad he is.
It's very frustrating to be a fan of this band anymore. They've been my favourite band ever since I heard them when I was 7 years old in 1983, and it hurts to not like what they are now. As much as I love the albums, it's frustrating listening to them because of how they've tarnished their legacy. They were never graceful, but at least they used to care.
Right! I'm listening to Kickstart My Heart and I can't stop noticing that Vince's timing is off a whole lotta times
U have been the first to hit my heart in this comment section. I've been there since I was a kid too. I want them all so er, functioning, fulfilling life's best goals, family, etc, but it's coming at great cost. And it feels to us. We r paying ALOT more, stuck in a gigantic stadium with heat stroke or risk for shock during lightning storms. The pandemic was REALLY bad for the majority of people in the world. Paying $125 for a ticket, plus all the travel, etc, is, for some people, the highlight of their lives. There has always been some infighting, normal with close people. Except when it's a huge change, Vince leaving, Tommy leaving, Mick being me as r dead, and Nikki with his side projects, we r getting less fulfilled. I love them, from the standpoint of the great times. I'm choosing not to focus on what skeptics say, or what we hear. The Dirt was well done, except I didn't like the truly vile parts and the fluffing. I doubt most fans new that Mick had a very serious disease and was wasting away. To see him play these past few years makes tears well up. He's a remarkable human. People keep ragging on Vince's voice. It is rare that a raw singer can sound exactly like their album. Those stadiums have all kinds sof sound implications. I don't sound like I did 40 years ago, and I haven't lived a life like Vince. As a long time fan, the way this is playing out is just not cool. Someone isn't telling the truth, and I hate to say it, but I think it isn't Mick. And it shouldn't be about the other 17.5% income. There has to be someone that stands up for the fans and says play live. John 5 is one of the only buys, (that I've ever heard), play guitar that makes me want him to play all my fave songs. When Metallica played Sweet Home Alabama at a concert years ago, it was exhilarating! These r ur favorite musicians, so I pay to hear u play the songs u wrote, with a bit of the original, but some 2023 flavor. I like crowd work. I like laughing and fun between the guys. Maybe I haven't evolved past the 80s Crüe, and I can accept that.
💯. We must be close in age. I was also 7 in 1983, I remember all the videos from Shout at the Devil being on our Friday Night Video show. I obsessed with them every since... Well I kinda dropped off the Motley Crue radar. After they fired Vince and got a new singer, and then Vince coming back... I got sick of the childish drama.
That was so cool to hear! Mick was the only one of them that had any talent still.
@Matt_Dylan Nikki wrote lyrics. Don’t give him too much credit there. We all know Nikki did not write the guitar parts. And to be an,e to write music you have to be able to at least play the instrument your writing for. Nikki does not even play his bass. Complete fraud. Well I guess he can write cheesy lyrics.
@Mike Palmer exactly. Let's have Nikki and Mick in a courtroom with instruments and let's see who can actually play live. Everyone knows Nikki is a fraud, hack and a tool. Plays the bass my ass 😂😂😂
@Matt_Dylan 😂
This is fascinating! I always wondered what they heard in their ear monitors. I figured they heard their own instruments or vocals for the singer and I heard about the click track but I didn’t know the guitarists had that too. I thought only the drummers did. Well I’ve been a little more educated tonight. And Mick, you deserve more, man! ❤
It used to be that way in the day
Each pair of In ears get a separate mix, ask and you shall receive, whatever YOU want.
If he didn't hear the click track, he would have to hear Tommy - they all have to play to the same beat! lol. Hence, the reason for the click track (metronome) and it's much easier to just listen to the click track then try to decipher the beat through all the cymbals and other generated noise through the mics. Plus, it sounded like Tommy strains to keep up with the clicker, and would throw Mick off a little. It's easier, better, and more accurate to just listen to the metronome.
When I played in bands (bass player here) I usually had kick, hat, and snare highest in the mix with just enough guitar and vocals for me to keep track with where we were in the song. I sang backup/harmony so vox were a little higher in the mix. I could barely hear myself which was fine with me, you can still hear a little bit of the live sounds coming from the PA so I didn’t find it necessary to have me in my own ear.
@@jejdigo
I’m a bass player too, and my mix was basically the same as yours.
He doesn't need to hear the rest of the band, because he knows the song inside-out. 'Very underrated musician!
True - if Mick did not know this stuff inside and out - he'd be lost because everyone else is all over the place.
That's what's playing in his in-ear monitor, but on the scene he can still hear the other members bleeding through. That's why the metronome is so loud, so he can hear it over the whole band playing.
Every band is different with there in ear. I liked my bass player and a click track. By bass player wanted only a click track
If this goes to court, Mick should win... Convincingly. and if I had to carry that band on my back, I'd have spine issues too. Team Mick all the way !!!
Mick Mars is great & playing 100% live! Sounds like Vince Neil is live too
barely
Unfortunately.
Vince sings live , it just sounds like someone is dying a slow painful death....
Vince is live, alright. But goddamn...
If the Crue is looking to replace someone, I recommend it's someone other than Mr. Mick Mars.
Vince
Absolutely agree. And their name rhymes with Cringe Wheel.
I agree, but if Mick doesn't want to tour John 5 is a good replacement for him.
@@redbull8661 no doubt John 5 can play; he’s the only one in that group apparently who can now.
That tone is so great!
Holy shit... All these years and I had no idea Mick was this damn good. The tone and pacing is next level. It must feel like TAKING CRAZY PILLS when you are the only musician in the band and yet the band is united against you.
Click track had me cracking up especially with the "1 2 3.. Start" inserts because the rest of the band is so dogshit you never know where you are going
This may be all that Mick has in his I.E.M. but it's not all that he is hearing on stage. He can still hear the live drums, vocals, etc. from the live amps and side fills they are still running. I used to only run my vocal and my guitar in my head. It gave me some isolation and clarity to what I was doing without ever competing volume-wise with anything else, but I could still hear the other things going on around me. And yes, the click becomes part of your experience but you stop noticing it.
He could never play with just Vince in his ear.. He would get lost for sure! 😂
You me a he can hear the prerecorded parts of tommy and Nikki’s parts. Lol.
They likely aren't using live amps on stage. Guitars are isoboxed or more likely in a processor like a Kemper. Bass is almost always DI'd (or in this case, prerecorded). Only thing he can likely hear on stage live are the drums, and the click is pretty much doing the same thing as Tommy, so no reason to hear them.
I don't why this would have been released, unless this is to prove Mick's point. He sounds pretty good and you can hear just enough of Vince to hear him mangle the songs, like he has for ages.
respect to mick for not having the backing guitars in his ears too. They were absolutely in the PA
Can you imagine the nightmare it would be to have vince in your monitor for an entire show
🤣 true!
Man, Mick is so good.
Mick has always been this Band! He was the true ole skool musician! He grabbed what would and could make the times. Now it's the the little boy z that still are..against him. I think not! Mick is the Crue! I hope u see this Mick!! Love for mick..for makin the crue...Now u need to bring it down. U will be known as Crue!
It’s sad how they’re trying to fuck him over
No one can replace The great Mick Mars period! I got to see the Crue live in Michigan over 100.000 ppl. promoting Shout at the Devil tour with Ozzy, Ratt, Accept, Tramph n a few other bands. And again just b4 the pandemic! Rock on..!! 🤘🏽.
I love when he sang "Kickstart heart [pant]"
This is very interesting. As a frequent monitor mixer, all I can say is:
without Mick Mars, no crew :)
But actually I've always said that. . .
You have one of the toughest jobs out there!!! Props!
Ok..but you'd think you'd know it was CRUE and not "crew".
@@jibbityjab2469 dont you mean crüe?
@@barrettm.9918 Lol...showoff!
@@jibbityjab2469 *Tips hat.
I'm with Mick! Go get 'em!!
Just more proof that Mick was always the heart and soul of that band.
Mick Mars is the heart and soul of the Crue easy, his guitar playing is perfect and for me he always gave the guy's a run for their money when it comes to musicianship and being a good person the rest of the crue have always been primadonas mick cared about the craft the music and being hisself 100%-TEAM MICK all day
Mick Mars pure blues metal!!!! Raw!!! TEAM MICK!!!!
Allegedly Nikki didn’t even have his bass plugged in on the last tour which makes his stage moves hilarious as he really tries to sell it! 😂
TIL I learned air bass guitar is a thing 😂
It's total horseshit - You can clearly hear the bass and drums, plus on 100's of other videos. People should look more instead of believing the first thing they read
@@rockpirate2748 Thats the back track you hear. That's a different tape.🤣
YES!!! This sounds like REAL ROCK 'N ROLL!!! Thank you for keeping _real, live music_ alive Motley Spew!!
I'm amazed how well you managed to pull off the backing vocals as EXACTLY as you did on the albums decades ago!
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Wanna learn a Crüe song on guitar, this is you best lesson ever!!!
That. Is. Awesome. Mick is the real rockstar!!!
Mick is the best always has been!
Mars playing is spot on! Vince is fat voice cracked!
I’m not the biggest Mick Mars fan at all especially after hearing how he treated the great Jake E. Lee back in the day. But I have to admit it, cat is CRUSHING all his parts, and is totally rhythmically in sync! Kudos to the Crypt Keeper!💯👏🏾👏🏾🤘🏾🤣🤣🤣
What happened with Jake E Lee?
If only they could manipulate the click track in Vince's ear to be a half second ahead of the rest of the band, he might sing in time. Someone needs to do a video of them playing bass to what Nikki is miming.
Mick is such an underrated rhythm player 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Easily in the top 3 rhythm guitarists of the 80's. I'd put him up with Izzy Stradlin and Malcolm Young.
No one ever underrates him
@@Brand73 disagree
Dude is spot on!!! Huge fan of Mick
That actually sounds amazing! Great guitar sound!
Wow. 🙄 They should have called themselves The Has-Beens with special guest star: Mr Mick Mars. That poor guy. I hope he gets every damn cent out of those posers. He deserves it all. Long live Mick Mars!
Team Mick,the guys a legend.Not fake.
This was amazing thank you so much for sharing this - wherever it came from! Mick is just a level above :) Such a shame Vince doesn't even try to put the effort in.
The other 3 guys are just about the cash. Why push your performance when suckers pay money anyways? The only one that seems to have integrity up there is Mick. Maybe I can cut Tommy some slack as I couldn't hear him very well but when I did, he was out of time. Which that's fine as long as you snap back in the pocket within a beat or 2. Vince and Sixx are just mailing it in.
I'd love to hear an audience tape of this to hear the difference between what the band produces and whats going into the PA
Frank just walks around playing air bass and pumping up the crowd. He just has to show up for the show.
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Mick is the unqualified backbone of crue.. he's the best at what he does... and to do all that and endure all the pain he goes thru each and every day with his back condition is just phenomenal !
Keep up the great work Mick ! Proud of you brother !
🤯 Now I love Mick even more. Great document.
Love it. Vince, and a click track! True professional!
So basically Mick is one of the only ones to still play at a high level #TeamMick
It was always about Mick’s riffs for me.
WOW!!!! I've always wondered what they heard? Now I know.. I have a new found respect for MM.. listening to that in my ear would drive me crazy!!
Nikki’s ear monitor all he hears is his bass techs saying “ hey Nikki wanna learn how to play bass after the show?” Lmaooooo
Yup, in 50 years of being in a band he hasn't learned how to even tune a bass...
Ya but he sure knows how to shoot up some smack 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽way to go Nikki😂🤣😂
@@patrickhale424 lol
@@andrediaz392 true dat
Am I the only one who will play this occasionally just to listen to Mick’s playing?
It's the best mix to hear Mick. I wish the lead vox were mixed even lower.