What does KISS Really hear LIVE on Stage?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- When KISS Perform LIVE what does the band hear in their inner ear monitors, Lets take a Look and a Listen to what KISS actually hears on stage, and we will take a look at KISS doing Strutter when they might not have the help of the Back masked vocal and timing ques.. let's go!
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Kiss was THE band of my teenage years. If they have to rely on technology in their 70s for a show...so be it. Respect.
The click is also there for production. The videos they play behind them have to be sync’d so that’s why all of that including the pyro is in time with elements of the music. I’ve been a fan since 1975 and I hate to see them getting old but it’s a fact of life. Live and let live!
It's also there for the production of DVD, video for sale etc............They can go in the studio and overdub really missed parts vocally and on all instruments..........This is standard.......Ever notice how "live" shows on TV or on DVD all sound great and perfect, yet the artists are jumping around/dancing, etc.?.......Never a missed note on the guitar...ahajahaja..... there you go........
The only thing that should ever be said to, or about KISS is thank you for all the wonderful years of great music.
You bet, for the rest of time.
You should Also say the Play disco and that it is about a hundred years ago they had a hit.
And that they do playback. And that they cant Sell out anymore. They Also Sell strings to your airguitar. They make Monet om nothing. If they retired in time they would deserve the respekt you talk about
Sorry for my bad english
@asteinmann 💯✌️
Agree 100%🔥🤘
You can trash them now. But not the 50 years they gave me as sound track of my life. Thanks KISS!
I get totally what you are saying. I love them too. But... when you are charging fans hundreds of dollars a ticket you need to play naturally or pack it in. They have millions of dollars in the bank. At some point it becomes fraud. And how many farewell tours are you going to do?
@@JamesLoop-gd8jk I agree with you brother. They need to leave the stage. It's sad, but people will buy the tickets. Young and old fans need too understand. They are older than me (58 years) stop buying the tickets. I love them! But yes, you are right. 😥
AS many as people continue to pay or untill someone passes from the band @@JamesLoop-gd8jk
Please a couple of good songs in the 70s and the rest was all fluff and Gene's ego. Used to love em, but now their a joke.
So what. Time to retire, then, not to ripoff fans.
The host interrupts too much. Don't need to hear everything in your head.
I agree. I had to quit watching because of his interruptions.
Agreed 💯
Amen
Same. Couldn’t watch this to the end. Too much talking.
Thanks for warning me , it will bother me less knowing ahead time. Not kidding
I'm not sure If anyone involved in the making of this video or anyone in the comments section plays in a band. I've played in live situations hundreds of times. And ANYTHING extra in your in ear monitor other than the rest of the band makes it that much harder when trying to play songs.
I don't believe that you could pull just any musician on stage, hand them the in ears, and an instrument, and tell them, "Just follow the instructions you hear In the in ear monitors and follow the click." And they would do better than these guys do. Love these guys since the 70's and think they were and still are INCREDIBLE!🤘
Amen to that! Most people here are clueless and bitter about KISS because the band are so successful and still tour all over the world
@@InspiredFortunes 👍💯
And I saw them May 17th 2022 (like last week) and had a great time and I didn't care how they were singing!! I was focusing on the great time I had and how great my first concert was.
Who cares , kiss is a great band and at 70 years old still rock the house down. And I agree we should thank them for all the great music
Because they should have hung it up 20 years ago
Who cares is right. Hell yeah, we're American, we're Kiss fans. We have the god given right to be dumb mofo's who don't care!
Who cares? Its lip synching and from a band who is known to sell anything for a buck. Gene Simmons cant stop saying Rock and Roll is dead and he does this? Haha I like Gene but he's out of touch.
@@donaldcummings8407 What's funny is they did hang it up 20 years ago lol.
Paul sounds absolutely terrible,it’s horrible.
When he does the opening of cold gin he literally sounds like a dying animal.
The click track doesn’t mean they are not playing. Even sweetening the sound with backing vocals that would otherwise require more singers doesn’t mean they are not singing. The click track and the stage manager’s directions are needed because it’s such a complex production, syncing lights and pyro and cameras with the music. That stuff doesn’t make them lousy. All that production is actually the impressive part of what they do.
What makes them lousy is that the songs are just not very good, and they don’t play and sing very well, and never really have. To their credit, they’ve never pretended to. They claim to put on the biggest spectacle, not the best music. And they are correct. Lots of people love the shows. So it’s all OK.
This is truth right here.
I've never been a KISS fan but I respect them for always being about putting on a big show for their fans.
They are using fake lead vocal tracks.....happened at last nights show too when eric singer fucked up and the tracks didnt line up after.
@@SuperSteelyGlint A live performance should be fast, slow or whatever they feel at the time. Metronomic tempos is not live it's--autopilot. It's not live rock n roll and never will be. Frauds!
I like to watch my musicians live, warts and all. No matter how good all musicians make slight mistakes or deviations and that's what makes live music great. If you just want a great production, go to a FECKIN MUSICAL of Starlight Express.. Kiss have below average songs and fake live show...
Their show is awsome the music is great no matter the line up I have never been disappointed everybody who says its fake is because they are poor and have no friends KISS was always about having a good time
All because someone uses inner ear monitors - doesn't mean they are not playing!
I am a semi-pro musician and on certain songs - we use samples and inner ear monitors.
Why use inner ear monitors? Because it makes the setup easier and being able to control the volume is so key. Not every venue is MSG and if you actually want to get paid to play music - you better be able to control your volume for your circumstance.
Why use samples? I am not carrying a keyboard player or a horn section for a handful of songs. In my case, it's more a matter of economics. It doesn't pay to drag out all that equipment - play for hours - be away from your family - for $50.
Typically, only our drummer hears the click track but he is so good you would never know there is a click track.
As for KISS: If you think logically for a minute - it's clear they are orchestrating fireworks, lights, and video to the music. It's all run by computers now so how else would you coordinate all that? You could SERIOUSLY get hurt by those fireworks if you're in the wrong spot and you would want to know WHERE you were in the song when that stuff is going off.
As for Paul's voice: Yeah it's shot! 50 years of rock n roll singing/screaming at your top register has taken its toll. Clearly at times - he singing along to a track of his own voice but if he was faking it all the time - wouldn't he get a better track of his voice?!?!
How the hell are they supposed to pull off such hugely complex shows without coordination, like, seriously? The experience you get as a listener is fantastic -- that is what they're working for, and they're doing it well. Excellently, in fact.
Exactly. I dont get what is the big deal? This dude sounds like he's just complaining. haha! Complaining about the crowd humming. Complaining about them adding a song in promptu. Complaining that they have an in-ear countoff. hahah. so what!! using in-ear monitors to help remind Paul what to say, what the next song is, .etc. doesn't mean they are cheating. haha. Complaining about this is karen-esque.
This just popped up on my feed. Watched it.
We could analyze ANY artist/band for doing all of this stuff. It's been going on for a couple of decades now with most artists/bands.
To me it is really simple, if it bothers you, stop bitching about it, don't spend the money, and don't go. Go scream at the sky, go to your safe space, go seek therapy, go eat Cheetos in your basement, etc.
There are literally thousands of people that pack the venues who don't care. They are there to have a good time and see their favorite artists/bands before they no longer tour.
What they do with THEIR money and time is THEIR business. No one else's.
Now I will step off of my soapbox.
PS: Shane this is not necessarily directed to you. To the Fonz and others....it is.
Well said donovan....that fonz guy though? Needs a life
Thank you! We're literally watching a 70 year old man- for people to say shit like "they can't perform like they used to" is ridiculous. Yes, he's been doing this for half a century while aging- he's a badass for continuing and I doubt a single soul left there feeling like their money was wasted.
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@@mooch514 👍💯🤣😂
cool technology they are using,, I love that! Definately helps make them stay tight and give the audience a great show after 50 years, I'm excited to see them on their last leg in Germany this summer
As a performer myself, Ive worked with bands that pressed a button and mimed their whole show, and having seen Kiss in Verona in 2022 and the magnitude of the production, its nothing less than astounding ! What a show and performance! irrelevant of whether they use click trax prompts etc.. well worth the money just for the experience and i feel for the poor guy with the vacumm cleaner who has to clear up all those paper pieces at the end of each show! Fantastic Kiss.. You really were awesome !
I'm a sound engineer in Las Vegas! You wouldn't believe the tracks, and click cues that go on. 😂
Show us, let us hear some of it
Then you should be aware that most cases are related to the visuals on screen, everything is synched these days.
I've used click tracks in the past live on stage when the band have been using specific visuals, meaning everything sync's up.
Now tracks, don't get me started on those 😂
I just saw them the other night at Rockville and they sounded great, yes Paul struggles at times but like you said their in their 70's. They still put on the best show of the day.
paul sings to tracks for about 85 percent of show thats why
yeah, i agree, no bands of today can compete with them my opinion.
I've noticed a trend in a lot of older bands, they'll do a few songs acoustically so they don't have to strain their vocal chords
Big live shows are always now very tightly controlled and setup. Everything is running from a control track, lights, rigging, screens, stage effects, pyro. The 'artists' today are just following the cues. Nothing new or special at all. Been going on for many years. Maybe get to the point about Strutter without the obvious padding out going on, the audience hates wasting their time of fluff.
Dont even try to justify this shit /
Look at the real bands they dont need 1% of this show😅😅/
go see Michael Shenker live 2016 Japan go see anything at all /
Iron Maiden is big production but dont need big bombs and flames in every song and do ya ever think Bruce will lipsynch😅😅
And Maiden fans would be like i dont care???
Just think about it 😅😅😅😅
@@terjeweum3677 I went to see Twenty One Pilots a few years bank and for a show with only 2 musical performers they had a huge all backing track sound and high tech stage show thats all preset. Kiss are only doing what all the acts do these days. Iron Maiden would have a tight set show like everyone else
The first time I saw KISS live in concert was more than a half a century ago. When you can measure their live performance history in centuries, the fact that they are still performing is miraculous no matter what it takes to keep going. That said, they still perform with more musical integrity than MOST. They are amazing, you have to give them that.
great comment! 🏆
What I would like too see from kiss is that they do away from the huge stages and do a classic tour. The songs costumes and pyrotechnics from the first alive album. I think that's when they were the best but that's just me..
Douglee I think your on to something with that.. if they went back to Alive style I think that would be cool.
@@ShaneDiablo check out these guys, they do a lot of early classic KISS as well as make up free / acoustic set a la the "unplugged" show from '95 at some venues... ruclips.net/video/zF9xqE7BV2Q/видео.html
Vegas is calling! That's the future of Kiss. Anyone want to bet me, any amount above $1000 only please!
Of course anyone who has ever been to a major league stage show or Broadway musical assumes that everyone is performing off the cuff, naturally as they feel inclined and whatever suits the moment... 😂
Making it look and sound perfect, easy and natural is what's called being PROFESSIONAL
I love KISS regardless of what goes on. Maybe they have offstage assistance, maybe they don’t. One thing is for sure, they have NO PROBLEMS selling tickets to their shows! ROCK ON!!! 🤟😎🤟
before the pandemic, they WERE having a hard time selling tickets. not sure about now, but before Covid, they were playing to half empty arenas. look it up!
@@markpetarde346 Fair enough! 🤟😎🤟🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@markpetarde346no they had no problem selling tickets . Rush uses clic tracks....fonz is a hater
@@gianni9415 👍
Of COURSE their padding the audience sound during a covid live stream, EVERY band who did a live stream show had crowd noise, why is that so surprising?
Newsflash... Rockstars have been doing this for years. Styx, Aerosmith
All bands use click tracks!
Rush uses them too....the youtube fonz is a clown...kiss is a big live show with pyro and everything is timed and it would be crazy and dangerous without click tracks
Exactly. They've timed the pyro like this with the vocals for 25 years.
@@joshualove5920 nothing to do with tricks or lip synching. Its about a proffessional show.
Back in the day you had guys doing the pyro timed, you didn't had click tracks. You think Priest needed click tracks in 1984 or turbo tour or ram it down ?
@@Nissardpertugiu like i said, technology back then wasnt the same...when it did come out. All bands started using it.
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The "double voice" in the beginning is Eric Singer doing the backing vocals... not a backing track. It's almost impossible to trigger a backing track like that live without a click.
Another thing, and i listen to the song, he didn't sound that bad. Of course, he doesn't have the same power to keep the vibratos plus it sounds he's being extremely careful with those. Plus, the sound it's raw, not mastered and post processed. If you find any other live raw footage of any band will sound similar. If you add a bit of reverb or delay, it's not bad.
Anyways, good you bring the discussion, but i don't find it that bad for two 70yo dudes rocking the stage. This is remarkable.
Right. You can literally see Eric lean over to his mic right before the camera cuts away from lmao.
Lots of artists use click tracks live. Often times the click will be pre-recorded on one side of a stereo mix that the drummer hears through headphones or an in-ear monitor, and on the other channel there will be pre-recorded backup vocals or other sound efx, or instruments such as horns or keyboards. It's all about making the sound full and as good as possible. Don't overthink it man.
Right, clicks aren't cheats.
Playing to a click takes so much practise too. This narrator is clueless.
@@williamboyle8918 all big arena shows are following this trend whether you like it or not stay home and complain noone will miss you
Complete bs. LOL
It's well known Paul was struggling vocally a couple years ago, and even had to have a procedure done. But I saw them in November a couple weeks before their last show, and it was 100% live. And while he obviously didn't sound as good as prime years, it was damn good ENOUGH and I loved the show.
An absolute shell of their former selves. As a KISS fan from the beginning, it hurts my heart to hear and watch this. 😢
I'm sorry my friend! I am with ya though.
They aren't the same as the were in the 70s but that's what happens as you get older! But they can still put on a great show!
I am totally with ya but this has been going on for years this is sad just so sad/ they where a part of me growing up and God bless the 4 originals /
It is so hard to even like this person Paul Stanley for all the bullshit he has propped those Kith tards for years and many of theme dont care if they lipsynching /
Really ??? Not a band but a brand??? OMG what a total moron /
WTF well,no surprise /
Read his books /
Man is a fraud /
Fraud Panley 😅
@@ShaneDiablo no tricks. Its a professional band. All big bands use Click tracks!
@Necramonium actually ,pauls voice in alive 35 was still strong. I say his vocals were weaker from 2015 plus
Playing guitar and singing at the same time is not an easy skill. Add in that they also have a click track and countdowns to also process in their ear, it must be challenging.
You and whoever Fonz is...do you have jobs? Like what joy do you get from digging into a band so that you can tear them to shreds with your negativity? If you don't like it, then don't listen. Don't watch. Don't go. Let the rest of us enjoy KISS. It is cool to hear what they hear in the monitor but it doesn't take anything away from the band.
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It's just sad to go out this way. I think the criticism of "newer" acts like Britney Spears is that they have ALWAYS lip synced.....have always used backing tracks. even during the beginning of their careers. They are true pop acts who can't and have never played a truly live show or even in the studio. A band like Kiss paid their dues, so I think that's where the right to put down those acts comes from. Do I think it's ok? Well, I'm with you Shane. I would rather they just own it and state "hey, this is it and we can't do the set at the level we used to."
I don’t know what you mean doing it without in ears. They would still have in ears. And the 1,2,3,4 is most likely the drummer counting it in. Other than maybe not having a click or backing track or pyrotechnics there is no real difference.
Dude, I play drums in bar bands and I'm on click all night long. It certainly doesn't mean I'm not drumming live, I most certainly am, but I'm playing in time keeping the dancers happy by staying in great time, at the tempo the songs were recorded, making the line dances and two steps they've learned and practiced with the records feel natural and at ease. I also cue the band in to every single song. I say the name of the song, what the count is if a musician has a pick up and count it in. So if we're gonna cover Don't Rock The Jukebox by Alan Jackson, the vocalist sings a 3 beat pick up before the band kicks in, so I say, "Don't Rock on 5." The guitarist strums a G chord for the singer to get his note and I give a 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, and the vocalist starts singing on beat 2, band kicks in on 1. What part of this is cheating?
I dont think they lip sync like most pop bands do, they might have backing vocals but whatever, for 50 years of singing and screaming his voice is going to have a hard time. I think they sound good, their sound checks sound good too without all the pizazz.
I finally just went and looked up the Fonz's video. Stop rambling and get on with it.
I will never stop rambling Thump. It's in my DNA
@@ShaneDiablo I can't fault a man for that. As an apology I offer my upvote.
Bullshittt... bad analysis.. don t know bout details... nor what issss ... so it seems... becaus' you mistake Paul 's counting for in-ear-technique/spokesman... also not able to distuignish original song(s) and who originally sings etc
My first gig I made the mistake of announcing we made a couple mistakes. No one notices if you don’t say anytning
For me idc what they sound like, idc if they use ear plugs. They probably use them cause they are getting older and need cues because they are songs from the 70s!! They have been around for 40+ years and is gonna need cues, heck I would need cues because I have horrible memory. If they lip sync that's fine cause it's their life and their concert!! People paid to SEE them and make a memory, they didn't pay to care how they sing, they paid to see them and have a good time!! And their getting old so they need it.
Many many many bands have done this and more forever. Some have no idea and it’s called a show. People pay 300 to see magicians in Vegas. Need I say more
Ya know DJ that is a great point, If mentally you just think of KISS as Magicians, doing slight of hand and trickery.. it works. Thank You. 🏆
How many stadium shows have you done, dude? :D
DuDe. Lol.
The steady flow as you put it of the crowd is gear hum and hiss.............yes...it sounds like a huge crowd with their volume turned way down.....
They should have quit before Paul was forced to lip-sync the full show
Agreed. These fellas have been crapping on their legacy for 25 years now. BUT no one forced anyone to pay to see these gigs. It’s all on the fans. Had they stopped spending money on this comedy, they’d have stopped. Simple supply and demand d demand, folks.
I saw W.A.S.P. last year and I've noticed the vocals were too perfect. Turns out they were mimicking their instruments and vocals. It was very noticeable. And after that, I heard Eddie trunk confronting Blackie Lawless about this. And black it was making. I will never see Wasp, Kiss, or Motley Crue again.
Sit on it Fonz !
You are aware most bands use click and guide tracks in their in ears. It's a widely used method in the industry. Lots of autotune as well. Oh well.
Huge difference between guide and backing tracks.
Also PS is def in one ear so God bless him for playing all these years.
NOTHING HAS OR IS IN PIPELINE TO REPLACE ANYTHING LIKE KISS SO THEY MUST BE PRETTY UNIQUE AND SOMETHING TO RESPECT
A BIG PERFORMANCE LIKE THAT NEEDS LOTS OF STAGING ITS NOT A STUDIO SHOOT OR A SING SONG IN A PUB
Bands have been doing this for a long time
You didn’t prove anything here except that you just winged your show without homework. I didn’t hear the backing vocals you spoke of here.
Kiss should of used that extra time to go into Jazz Odyssey, hell Spinal Tap did it at the show when they co-headlined with the puppet show.
As a sound engineer for quite a while I saw the transition from always using monitors to some bands using in years. And in my experience it was like night and day. The inner bands sang and performed with way less mojo. They stop pushing against the monitors. They stop pushing against the crowd. They basically stop moving air and sit inside their own heads and make music. It basically was like bands turning into robots rather than analog human beings. I always know when a band has in years and even before I see if there’s monitors on the stage or not. It’s like they’re neutered.
LMAO. In ear monitors are the best thing to happen to live bands in decades. It allows for decreased stage volume so the PA system can do the work, allows vocalists to hear themselves much better than floor wedges and side fills ever could (which in turn facilitates saving the voice, not to mention allowing greater pitch accuracy) and save hearing to boot. The idea that a singer should have to "push back against the monitors" is ridiculous. If you're singing that damn hard it just means you can't hear the monitors well enough to begin with.
Reading the comments and it seems to me that this HATING ON KISS video has completely backfired. I've seen Kiss many times and I never saw a bad show. How many bands have lasted 50 years and then end it with a 50 date sold out tour. Big respect to Kiss and ALL Members past AND present. Thanks for the memories guys x
I love KISS but they are a trainwreck now.
They can still put on a great show! Paul's vocals are just a little rough
@@The_Original_Alex_Channel A little rough? 😆
A little rough the man is lipsynching 90% other show ???
Get real go see Michael Shenker that has 1% of this stupid show /
And Iron Maiden is a big production but do you even think Maiden fans would justify lipsynching???
See if ya put thing s in perspective it is so stupid it is unbelievable 😅😅😅😅
Well we have 40 pounds of armour???
Paul,is using a sports bra 😅
We are using makeup ???
Well nothing can justify lipsynching
@@terjeweum3677 not lip synching....too many "experts" out there
@@mooch514 well look up this brand live Madrid 2016/ and see and hear what they sounded like and Fake F and Stan P not doing chorus at all and playing are a mess/
The whole band is on tracks on many songs / look how Paul counting himself in on every song he is starting/ WTF counting himself in on Duece/
Something is very wrong/🤔
I've been to OSAKA to see Priest. The crowd is absolutely silent between songs. Kiss is legendary. Period.
It’s not KISS without Ace and Peter
I worked with Kiss monitor guy and he had nothing good to say about them.
LOTS of bands play to clicks, trigger samples etc and have done for years. Shit, I was in a rock band in the early 90’s that had a click and we had some samples and some layered extr aBV’s on some songs!
Paul can’t even talk
They never needed a click track before
100,000 years was so painful to listen to ,no I don’t feel alright at all
That's might be y they done the end of the road last concert in New York Madison square gardens.
Got tickets to The Stadium Tour here in Jacksonville on July 4th weekend I sure hope it's a lot better then that last "improvised" song's performance.
in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, KISS could live their lives in peace because their was no such thing as You Tube--
All bands do this man
Not sure what you’re doing here…. I’m a huge kiss fan & support the use of technology to play a good show…. Let me ask you this…. What band are you covering when they retire??…. This you tube is destructive, with the intent of destruction… but good luck… they had great albums before you were born… just stop
I can guarantee you anyone out right now Saying they can't stand bands that play click and que track have never played anything bigger than bar, everything is automated now and if you get off the click your light, videos and FX or all off, and when you're playing with everything synced you need it so the band don't get off, with a big show there is no (oh my God we actually skipped a whole section of the song) because everything is synced together, only a $500 a night bar band can get away with that, and in today's world you have to sound like the CD because your competition is one man DJs... And if you think different than you will always be a bar band!
As a musician, I find it really hard playing to a click track and for me it ruins the feel - the natural push/pull of the song. I understand why when they have to sync things like video playback and other sounds that the band can't achieve, but it's always feels restrictive. Plus the sound is irritating in my monitors!
I don't understand what the big deal is it's just a kiss show
I really dont give a shit.kiss is the best band ever I have seen them best show I ever saw .
I am still waiting for people to talk or show there kiss Dubai vip packade
I don't know how people like this band.
Shocker. They choreograph concerts.
~I Think,. Considering They Followed The Cues Of Management
Back In The Day,. An They Changed With The Times, Held On, An
``Continued On`` ..It's Something They Are Still Marketable,. They
Did Something NEW / And Different, Now EVERYBODY Whitens
Their Face, etc. (So, I Think Your Just Putting Too Much In Finding
The Flaw, Which Causes You To Miss The Awe, And Feel The Duress)
All I Can Say Is; They Weren't LAZY, And They Got Up, Sick An All, And
Pursued What They REALLY Wanted, Cuz`It Could've NEVER Happened!
If we found out Rush used click tracks and such would we be pissed
These guys have been doing this forever...they should be able to to Strutter in their sleep.
Still I give them cred for being old fucks and still trying to rock.
The problem is obvious. Paul is not adjusting his voice to the aging process. If he sang lower on the register he’d stop straining his voice. As you age your vocal muscles gets harder to control. He needs extensive work with a vocal coach.
I'm not a kiss fan but this dude doing the video is by far a absolute nobody . So for him to rag on these guys is absolutely ridiculous.
well, I mean you're not wrong.
I never got to the ear monitor part.
What is your point??
Cant tell if youre shitting on them or praising them?
To me they should be only respected!
Gianni, I am doing neither, just conversation is all, KISS got me through very rough times as a kid and I love them.. BUT I also realize for many years KISS has talked a bit of trash on anyone and everyone who use backing tracks.. now they do it, pot calling kettle black... but this video was interesting to me, I have heard a click track in ear mknitor before but never a man telling you what to do, that is just plain weird to me.. that's all.
Saw them in 2012 and they blew Motley Crue off the stage. They've earned whatever cheating and trickery they need to do.
Weird how much the feed sounds like one of those Sanders' fake "Shred" videos...
They should have 'really' ended in 2000 and done a few special appearances ...it's just embarrassing for them now. They did not leave on top.
How do you know how others feel from watching a video?🤷♂️
Let them be real musicians… And don’t forget they are old.
Although I can't say I'm a fan of todays KISS ... but what do you expect from a group that's been 'retiring' for the last 20 years? They have two guys pretending to be the other two guys ... it's safe to say they really don't care.
Well, his voice is going. We all can hear that. If he's singing his RealVoice 99% of the time. He has balls to get up there and finish the tour sounding like that. Like Motorhead said. We're here to see the event. Not a perfect album
My father grounded me from kiss because I was too obsessed but this is shameful
They’re down to G in Cold Gin now.
This video could’ve been two minutes long
They have nothing to proof man. There having fun making more money than you and providing an old school style concert for true KISS fans. Of course there's behind the scenes stuff. This new generation of sound techs are crazier than they've ever been man.
Ease up.... 👊
Someone needs to be brutally honest with Paul, he sounds GOD awful. I’m a huge Kiss fan and Paul sounded great for years and years but what I just heard him talking to the crowd and singing is horribly embarrassing. Sounds like he’s developed a new scream that we never heard before. I can’t believe Paul is willing to sing like that in public. I don’t know what he sounds like in 2023, maybe he was sick and lost his voice in this video clip?
Where Was This Concert? Daily Paul has Gray in His Hair. Nightly It's Solid Black.
so literally the live set up every modern live band uses? you need this to keep the show down to a science.
There's nothing wrong being done here. There's nothing that invalidates the cost of a ticket. Everyone always get their money's worth out of a KISS show. I'm thinking these "in ear monitor" feeds being made public was done by KISS themselves. It's all show business. All that matters is to keep the drama going. Controversy is great for keeping a concept alive and kicking.
You have a very good point, first on in ear monitors, I understand having them for timing issues, but there is just something mechanical and training wheels about having someone in your ear explaining ever step of a live performance.. also I think the reason why Paul gets so much ire from people is because he is well documented talking shit on everybody who used backing tracks, from Britney Spears ond so on... so now Paul uses the extra help.. he's gotta get a little bit out of that coming back at him... plus.. it's just interesting to watch and discuss... great comment Nelson
she put on 5-10 lbs....but i still love her ..... thats kiss.
The general public would be surprised to know that 99% of any&every A-level (& B & most of C!) bands use in-ears with timing cues and clicktracks and whatever else each performer wants in his or her personal mix. Stage Manager warnings & cues for upcoming pyro or CO2, lyric cues or key cues, and on & on. There's plenty of bands playing 2,500-cap rooms using tracked audience swells from 7,000-seat stadiums, through the p.a. to trigger the live audience to react the same way. The "casual banter" and interaction with the crowd by the frontman is on the setlist in between certain songs, sometimes for guitar changeovers, and that banter is 90% the same every night except for the name of the city (which is also in big letters at the top of the frontman's setlist taped down in front of him).
There's lots more, but it would spoil a lot of visions people have about their favorites...
I also think it's a feed from the production team. No Artist wants to hear everything in their mix, especially the special effects that could damage their hearing.
I think it's probably a feed for the lighting cues.
Well it is one more of this kind that justify this???😅😅😅
No keep going this is interesting...
Hit the nail on the head. I was a drummer in a touring band for a few years, i had a click in my ears, TM giving me time cues, communicating with my band without the audience hearing it. Just because you get assistance during a show doesnt mean jack. You NEED certain things to be able to run smoothly that have nothing to do with the actual ability to play, and that was just a little opening band.
@@edallen1921 they play to tracks because most of pauls vocals are pre recorded . because his voice is gone karma for that pompous ass always crapping on ace peter and numerous other people
Dude they’re like 70 years old. These tricks are called “professionalism” in my book. They’ve learned through trial and error over the course of 50 years of playing shows that this is the way to give the audience the best show they possibly can. They still play the guitars and drums live and those are definitely not fake solos either. And Paul isn’t faking it when he swings around over the audience with sparks and smoke shooting out of his guitar either. Unless you’ve spent 50 years playing rock concerts in front of tens of thousands of people I don’t think you have a right to criticize how they do it.
I totally agreed 👍🏼
KISS has earned my respect. The fact that they are able to do this into their 70's is amazing.
There is nothing to add. respect from me too.
Most every major bamd with effects and video have the voice cue and "3, 2, 1" in their IEM feed. U2, The Who, etc...lots of bootlegs from IEM recordings have that. They aren't on a club stage anymore where they can read each other and change tempo, etc. When you have video interaction and effects, and are a mile from the rest of the band, you get the "3, 2, 1" in your ear
Saw KISS in 2000 and 2004 enjoyed it because of the production. You don't go to see KISS and expect a show from a club in 1974. Also saw Paul Stanley as the Phantom in 1997 he was awesome. "Christine!!!"
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Penn Jillette talked about how when you’ve done the same show so many years, your mind wanders off to grocery lists and such. The in ear cues have their purpose
Honestly the whole IEM thing doesent bother me. It makes sense considering how technical the show is with pyro and other effects. It guarantees a smooth running show. However it also kills a bit of the live vibe.