VelocityOne Flight Stick Spring Tension Adjustment | Stiff Stick Fix
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- The VelocityOne flight stick arrives with a super tight stick. When you move it side to side the entire base wants to move with it. Cutting the spring down will fix this issue. Make sure to cut a little at a time until you’re satisfied with the feel!
*I recommend you try the “precision” setting under flight stick profiles on the VelocityOne screen after modifying the spring. It feels much more realistic! Use the large scroll wheel on the base of stick to access the menu. 
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Tension Spring Dimensions:
17mm Length
18mm Outer Diameter
1.4mm Wire Width
Stainless Steel Material
This is the original spring? Isn’t it?
thank you very much, i would get some springs with 1mm wire with and 15mm length to test if it fits me!!!
I would like to point out that using a vice to compress and therefore shortening the spring is the better, less intrusive way of lowering the tension.
Thanks so much for the video, it was a great help !
Could you elaborate on this, not sure what you mean?
@@c20h25n3o. he means:
1. you get a vice (search for bench vice) or go to someone who has;
2. place the spring in between two sides of the vice
3. tighten the vice in the amount you desire. the tighter the vice goes, the more compressed and shortened the spring is
4. put the spring back in and try out. if it's still stiff, tighten it using the vice again.
5. cheers.
@@c20h25n3o. put spring between two metal things and squeeze
Just did this myself after getting my joystick yesterday. Works a treat !! 😀😀
Sweet
Just wanted to add.. I did this mod and it is great. Two things.. 1. If you cut the spring too short, you will notice that the top of the metal washer / housing that sits on top of the spring will be slightly lower that the top of the pole. This will mean that your stick may not fully "center" itself (spring back to center) as there will not be enough tension. (if you are flying gliders for example, this is wonderful). Fear not if that happens.. all you need to do is heat the spring with a lighter for about 45-sec and then using two plyers pull it apart just a tiny bit to expand it, then run under cool water and your set. 2. If you have "creaking" sounds from your stick you can test your tolerance by placing the base cover back on the bottom (with the main spring out) and the stick should be very floppy on the pitch and roll axis (totally dead and free flopping back and forth). Mine was NOT. It had some binding on the roll. Unfortunately, there was no way I can see to easily fix this (so I am returning this one and ordering a new one, thank you Amazon). I spent hours looking at it and thinking. I think the best way, would be to fully take it apart and then measure the male ends of the rocker mechanism, buy 4 bearings with that same ID (inner diameter) and then bore out the sides to support (seat) the bearings. Then, you would have perfection in all accounts, and this would be an amazing stick.
You're a boss my man ! Recently I bought the joystick and it was very hard, see your video and start working on it... I have no words it's like flying from an old airplane to a new airbus, hope turtle beach see this video and make it from the factory... Thanks man!!
I ended up not even cutting the spring. I just made the 4 screws holding the metal plate a bit looser and the stick feels perfect now!
Thanks bro, I will be receiving mine tomorrow and will do this
Just tried on mine. Problem is the plate will be moving/rocking with the joystick, so you're going to be hearing that "clunk clunk" everytime you move the joystick. I'm just going to swap the spring on mine.
@@Diniven Hmm I don't have that issue. Maybe you can thighten the screws a little and make sure that they're even. Might be worth a try.
@@maybe_abdulladid it work loosening the screws?
@@c20h25n3o. Nope i returned it
Not all Hero's wear capes is a fitting saying right here. I got 2 the other day for dual sticks and was seriously thinking about throwing them in the back of the storage cupboard. I just done this to my right stick and holly shit it's like a new stick, this is how it should have come out of the box! Big thumbs up to you Sir
Thanks!
Thanks for the video, great tips! I didn't have a cutting tool strong enough for the hardened steel, but I tried 3D-printing a 2mm-thick spacer for the metal plate to reduce the spring tension; it feels already much better.
Geez thanks, that made a hell of a difference, just modded mines and i love it.
Just unboxed mine, after one flight decided it was unusable. Horribly stiff and unnatural feeling. Definitely going to do this mod!
After you do it change the stick profile to precision. Feels way more realistic!
Did you? Did it work?
Man, you are the boss, you saved me with this stiffness fix. Thanks !!!
I did this mod a few months ago and had great results! Now just to figure out how to reduce the tension of the twist/rudder mechanism
It seems impossible if you dont want to detach cables.
@@yahyakr6903, can you elaborate on this? I am not familiar with the hardware dynamics of HOTAS, and I was hoping that the rudder action was based on that same spring. I actually use my stick to play MMOGs believe it or not, and I'm constantly using the rudder axis while thumbing the analog hat to strafe around while panning the camera.
Most of the time I have to end up twisting the stick with three fingers to and not only does it become quite tiresome due to how much torque is required to twist the dang thing, I end up putting far more pressure on the two hats since my hand is under load even though I'm trying to isolate my thumb. I'm concerned this will prematurely wear them out.
@@daviddjpearlYou need to remove cable attachment welds and reweld them, otherwise you cant change the spring. Remove the plastic covers on the grip and remove the bolts, you will see, but be gentle.
@@yahyakr6903, thanks much for getting back to me. The problem is I won't see what you're talking about nor have the opportunity to carefully get in there because there is no f'ing way I'll ever muster up the courage to attempt that procedure! 😆
Possible Spring Replacement if you cut your original too short.
This spring from Amazon seems to be a replacement for the original spring. The base of the velocityOne is still too light so with this Spring the joystick still will tip when moved to it's extreme positions. I'm looking at some method to increase the weight of the VelocityOne base with maybe lead shot and glue or piece of heavy metal. Amazon descritpion follows:
USD 7.50 gets five springs. With this spring, the centering tension is about the same as my Thrustmaster T160000.
uxcell Compression Spring,304 Stainless Steel,18mm OD,1mm Wire Size,9mm Compressed Length,30mm Free Length,5.9N Load Capacity, Silver Tone,5pcs
I've ordered a pack of these for when my V1 arrives. Thanks for the info. 🤙
@@adybarker4733 How did these springs work out for you?
Im thinking of doing either the washer thing or getting a less stiff spring . Add more lube to the collar thing and then out some tire wheel weights in the base and stick them down with some tape on it not to touch anything electrical
Did it work out @@adybarker4733
How did the spring work out
Just bought the stick and first thing was this hack. I also cut two parts of the spring that the stick just barely centers. thnx !
Nice tip, thanks! Another issue mine has is the post and collar are too tight so it acts like a shock absorber w/ too much dampening... Takes too much to push it down, and it doesn't return quickly enough w/ the lighter spring. re-lubing helps but may have to try honing out the collar a tiny bit to make it return quicker.
AAAAAAAH THIS MADE THE STICK AMAZING.
THANK YOU!!!!!!
The best!
I managed to find a softer spring of about the same size as the original. Now it's perfect and I can easily swap it back if other issues arise.
Nice! Post where you got it for others.
Yeah, I am interested in this new spring too! Please post where to get it 🙂
@@nateice1Sorry I can't really help as it was just a random find in my father in law's workshop. The internal spring of an earlier KWS type tread-down door stopper that I had to demolish with a hacksaw. I'd guess it's approx 1mm wire thickness but I'm not sure if the newer models use the same.
please post a link to the new spring
Thanks for saying this and never posting any description where you got it
Don't cut the spring. Just use 2mm washers (or 3d print some to your liking) and use that to offset the plate from the spring. This is 100% reversable where cutting the spring is not.
which dimensions of washers do you need for it to work properly?
SUCH a great video! I wanted to ask.. I noticed there are 3 tabs on that metal base, but only 2 are on the inside (looks like there should have been 3 to line up in all holes), unless I snapped one off (but I was VERY careful), so I don't think I did.
Dude! That’s so awesome 😂 How does it feel in the sim now? Did it create a dead zone at all? I’d imagine its best on the precision setting, now that the tension is off.
Feels so good! No dead zone. Standard setting feels the same as far as movement of the stick in relation to movement in the sim before but just the base won’t lift up. Precision setting is where it’s at though. Way more stick movement is needed to control the plane which feels more realistic.
Thank You!!!!!
IT DOES HAVE A RUMBLE MOTOR!
I jerryrigged mine up to a lap board when I got it last year and havent had it apart since then.
But I got into an argument with someone across flightsim and turtlebeach discord about it having a rumble motor inside it and that no game that I've found uses it. Why is it there? Nothing in the software or the website or specs sheet mentions and rumble feature.
Its a shame they didnt go that bit extra with adding some kind of screw wind like the old thrustmaster that can be accessed through the bottom with like a coin slot cap.
Also to note. Theres probably a threshold to cut down before that platform no longer centers the stick and it flops at dead center with a deadzone. And that point is probably very close to where I have mine now because I wanted to take almost all of the initial spring tension out of it. I dont think you can. But I cut the spring probably down to about a third of its original height, the plastic sleeve that slips over the shank is just about level with the shank.
The stick still snaps back a bit more than I like it and resists a bit more than it should for a pro setup at dead center. But its massively improved over how its shipped. It feels like a flightstick now, rather than a controller thumbstick. One finger flight control is easily done.
Now the only gripe with the control surfaces is the rudder twist tension. Which I cant go out and spend $200 on pedals for.
So odd that they haven't enabled the rumble motors. Their French site even mentions them "Thanks to the two integrated vibration engines, you will feel the engine reaction and the impact of enemy weapon fire, for more realism."
@@BALLOOROOM Thats bizarre, I havent seen anything about it here.
Could be because of that patent troll that was chasing companies using a certain rumble technology.
wait i have this but mine never vibrates.. does this have vibration feature and if so how to use it with msfs if someone can help please thanks.
I am hours away from receiving my unit and the reports of the stiffness have me spooked a bit. Although I'm not so much a handy guy, this seems simple enough to give it a shot. Honestly, and I'll probably get made fun of this, but the main deterrent is the removal of the hidden screws under the feet. One thing I always avoid is removing pieces with permanent adhesive or fasteners, since you'll likely never get the stock affixation back. In terms of this particular mod, it's very minor and probably just sticks right back on if I had to guess.
You don’t have to remove them completely. Just peel back a tiny bit like I show in the video.
I'm surprised it has a rumble motor? Everything Ive seen online never mentioned it. Wonder how I can get it to work
We had a light switch similar. Was a man holding a bowling ball with his pants down 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️. My step dad was an avid bowler.
Nice, this one was my grandparents.
Unrelated, but I have a problem with the H2 stick. I use it as my cockpit camera as you don’t have VR or head tracking on Xbox. The problem I am experiencing with it is for whatever reason after I downloaded the 1.1.6 update for the TB Flightstick, the camera will point left and down as if it has a stick drift issue. I’ve even tried to recalibrate the stick by holding B2 and B8 buttons for five seconds and going through the recalibration process. Despite this, it still is an issue anyway… Is there a way to either factory reset the Flightstick or to outright fix this issue? I really do not want to spend money on a replacement flight stick.
Hi all! I just received mine this week. The tension is overwhelming. One must do so much downward pressure to avoid raising the device on each side. I tried your method with no luck, as the bottom cover is attached to the device's body. All 8 screws were removed, but still, you can feel that something else is attaching both parts. As far as I could see the board with the USB ports is now attached to the bottom cover with a ribbon to connect to the main board. Unfortunately, I may say. Unless the device is mounted is pretty much useless. I just need to evaluate if I want to force and potentially break the device or leave it as is.
I just modded mine and I had the same problem. I was able to push the small board with the USB ports out of the plastic frame and put it back where it should be (there are two cutouts on the left and right of the USB ports that slot into the frame with the stick attached to it). Next I didn't even cut the spring, I just made the screws holding the metal plate a bit looser. Putting it back together took some fiddling but now the stick feels perfect!
Thanks for the comment@@JarviceI will have another go later, to see if I can find a way to push the board out of the plastic
@@Jarvicethis might be even better solution, to give it less strength by increasing the gap
I wanted to buy this stick, but hearing the stiffness issues makes me not wanna get it, as I can't mount it
@@bosniak006 did this worked out for you? cause i'm having the same issue
what exactly did you use to cut the spring?
I did not know this joystick had a vibration motor in it...
Having a stiff spring would probably be good for helicopter flight.
I have this joystick. Now I look at it, do I see correctly? vibration motor? does he have vibrations? How to run them in mfs 2020?
Yes, I don’t know how to make it work. Has never vibrated for me.
Thank you for the Tutorial! But somehow I failed removing the backplate, it was stuck at the USB-C ports and i couldnt get it out, was that also a problem for you or is it just me?
No, the backing plate comes right off. Are you sure you removed or loosened all 8 screws including the 4 hidden screws enough? If so, just give it a little pry and it should pop off.
Same problem here. Did you ever get it open?
@@nateice1The USB connectors seem to be mounted of the cover and connected with ribbon cables, so I can’t get it off. Did you not have this problem? Could this be a different revision of the controller?
@@GodslayerXUL on mine it looked like it was connected to the bottom cover but the bottom cover actually just popped off and the ports remained in place.
@user-nw6pq4jc9g @GodslayerXUL I just modded mine and I had the same problem. I was able to push the small board with the USB ports out of the plastic frame and put it back where it should be (there are two cutouts on the left and right of the USB ports that slot into the frame with the stick attached to it). Next I didn't even cut the spring, I just made the screws holding the metal plate a bit looser. Putting it back together took some fiddling but now the stick feels perfect!
Thanks for this! It's a really nice joystick but the centering action is ridiculously strong. What diameter / length is the spring? Have you been able to do anything about the rudder axis?
Sorry, I didn’t measure it but the piece I cut off is about 18 mm or 11/16 in diameter if it helps. Also, I don’t use the rudder axis because I use rudder pedals.
I find the throttle is very undesirable
i just bought a box of springs from amazon for 5€ LOL
I DO NOT RECOMMENDED THIS MOD. It eases the controls yes, but in return it also disables the original springs' ability to negate the friction caused by seperate double axis construction.
Imagine you control the mouse pointer with your stick, after you change the spring it becomes harder to draw a shape like a circle. Instead it tends to draw corners in certain positions.
So when you need to use the roll axis while pitch axis is not in neutral, it makes a jumping motion instead of having a smooth simultaneous movement.
Dont forget there is a reason why Manufacturer choose this spring instead of a less tension one.
(Sorry for eng.)
The issue is the collar and post being too tight. Just have to also loosen this up if you find it doesn't return quickly enough. It's almost identical to tuning suspension. Lighter spring, need to lighten the dampening. :)
@@aberg12012 yes you may be right, replacing the spring alone causing this problem.
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