I haven't put this into practice, but I also heard that a good way to structure the midpoint is to juxtapose it against the climax. If your book will end in a defeat, then you want the midpoint to be a false victory. So your characters get a small taste of victory before they ultimately fail. But if the story will end in a victory, then you want your midpoint to be the false defeat so that your characters experience those true lows which will make the victory at the end more satisfying.
Interesting! I haven’t heard of that one but that does make sense to me? Though I feel like characters win at the end in so many books 🤔but I guess maybe that’s why midpoints are often tragic haha
Thank you so much for this video, I feel much clearer on the midpoint after hearing you talk about it. I've been having trouble with my plotting and I think this helped!
I loved this video so much! It's the so helpful that you talk about these beats through *your own filter* and what you change or remove. I'm looking forward to the next video, will be grabbing my popcorn! 😄
So happy you enjoyed it! And yeah I figured this was kind of the best way to present this because I really don’t always follow the rules haha and honestly the save the cat authors have a lot of their own videos explaining the strict structure, so I didn’t want to just do that again
Thank you for creating this series, Liselle! I came across your channel/this series after reading Save the Cat! Writes a Novel, imposing some much-needed structure on my pantser approach to writing, and realizing I still had questions. I saw the Debate video first, then watched the series in order plus a handful of your other videos, all in two days. Your content is excellent: informative, example-based, and so kind and patient. Can’t wait for the next video in July!
So helpful! You should check out screenwriter Michael Arndt's video on writing toy story 3's midpoint, it's a great example of what you're talking about.
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I haven't put this into practice, but I also heard that a good way to structure the midpoint is to juxtapose it against the climax. If your book will end in a defeat, then you want the midpoint to be a false victory. So your characters get a small taste of victory before they ultimately fail. But if the story will end in a victory, then you want your midpoint to be the false defeat so that your characters experience those true lows which will make the victory at the end more satisfying.
Interesting! I haven’t heard of that one but that does make sense to me? Though I feel like characters win at the end in so many books 🤔but I guess maybe that’s why midpoints are often tragic haha
Thank you so much for this video, I feel much clearer on the midpoint after hearing you talk about it. I've been having trouble with my plotting and I think this helped!
Yay!! I’m so so happy that it helped you!
I loved this video so much! It's the so helpful that you talk about these beats through *your own filter* and what you change or remove. I'm looking forward to the next video, will be grabbing my popcorn! 😄
So happy you enjoyed it! And yeah I figured this was kind of the best way to present this because I really don’t always follow the rules haha and honestly the save the cat authors have a lot of their own videos explaining the strict structure, so I didn’t want to just do that again
19:38 I agree with you and have been writing like that, as well!
I think it’s a good method! And I do wonder if they meant it in a different way because it seems like that would be the ideal way to do it???
This video series is everything. 🙌
Glad you’re enjoying it!!
This is just so helpful, I love hearing your interpretations of these beats!
Yay! Always glad to hear that these are helpful!
This series has been so helpful. It's made some things make sense and given me fuel for thought! Thanks for making them!
So happy to hear that!! And happy to keep making the videos ☺️
Love this series! I've just started re-reading "Save The Cat Writes A Novel" in preparation of drafting and the Midpoint is one of my favorite beats.
Thank you! And the midpoint is really fun so I get why it would be a fav beat for you. I do love the drama of it
Thank you for creating this series, Liselle! I came across your channel/this series after reading Save the Cat! Writes a Novel, imposing some much-needed structure on my pantser approach to writing, and realizing I still had questions. I saw the Debate video first, then watched the series in order plus a handful of your other videos, all in two days. Your content is excellent: informative, example-based, and so kind and patient. Can’t wait for the next video in July!
I’m so happy you found this series and that it’s been helpful to you!! That’s always what I hope it’ll do so I’m so glad
Thanks for this, Liselle ❤
No problem!!
This was so helpful! thank you.
Happy it helped!!
So helpful! You should check out screenwriter Michael Arndt's video on writing toy story 3's midpoint, it's a great example of what you're talking about.
Thanks for the recommendation! I’ll have to look it up
Oof. Writing is HARD!!!
As always we super appreciate you doing this deep dive! 💛
It is!! But I also think I would be concerned if it ever got easy 😂