First Time Serving LATIN MASS - What I Learned!

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @kellywillis7238
    @kellywillis7238 3 месяца назад +7

    What a beautiful witness you provide! I appreciate your sincerity and straightforward sharing of your experience and insight. I’m so blessed to live in the wonderful Diocese of Lincoln in Nebraska and the novus ordo mass is very reverent. But you are so right about the many sad occasions in various dioceses where reverence is lacking. I have only recently been learning more about TLM and hope to continue exploring and understanding TLM. Thank you for reminding us that it’s not “them versus us” we are all called to help grow the church and serve for the greater glory of God. May God continue to bless you with zeal for the Catholic faith!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @deserttrainguy3235
    @deserttrainguy3235 Месяц назад +3

    Not only is the TLM more reverent, it is a holy sacrifice with the focus on the worship of God and not man. Nice to see more young people attending the TLM.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  Месяц назад

      @@deserttrainguy3235 Amen!

  • @magn630
    @magn630 3 месяца назад +17

    Thank God for this young man and other young people like him. He is right that recent past generations were wrong in changing tradition and now need to push to have the traditional mass restored. God bless him.

  • @mariedsilva8610
    @mariedsilva8610 3 месяца назад +3

    Yes I loved the Latin mass which was celebrated fifty years ago there was tradition beauty reverence and solemnity beautiful Gregorian chants I wish it is restored again. You have spoken the truth about it. God bless you

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      @@mariedsilva8610 Thank you!

  • @Hail_Full_of_Grace
    @Hail_Full_of_Grace 3 месяца назад +7

    The young Catholics , our next generation always impress me , i do believe the future is bright.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +2

      Thank you! I think so too

  • @xiomarablanco5598
    @xiomarablanco5598 3 месяца назад +11

    I love our altar boys. They’re so faithful, always serving in the mass as well as in Adoration on Thursdays. I pray for them as well as the priests in thanksgiving for the blessing of their service.

  • @north2alaska
    @north2alaska 3 месяца назад +10

    Jacob; lovely video you have made. Your enthusiasm and excitement is infectious, hopefully you have planted some good seed in rich ground. THANK YOU for seeing yourself as an Altar Boy. In this day of sexual confusion we need to reinforce in these young minds that they are boys/men, doing a function that is ordained by God for males.
    I pray you continue your studies of the Latin Mass “Usus Antiquior” as it is rich in fixed prayers and rubrics, said in a sacred language, with reverence, sacred decorum, incorporating sacred music, is Christ centered, offering a TRUE propitiatory SACRIFICE , offering facing God.
    The Usus Antiquior is the closest thing to Heaven you will ever find on earth.

  • @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
    @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh 3 месяца назад +15

    I became an "altar boy" in my thirties - for the TLM. It's the authentic extra-terrestrial experience.

  • @JohnLovesMary
    @JohnLovesMary 3 месяца назад +5

    As a 14 year old Altar boy, I agree with you 100%! I am planning on getting gloves for me and my other altar server friends so we do not have to touch the sacred vessels and also for the procession. I'm so glad I found your RUclips channel. I'll make sure to add you to my daily Rosary. God Bless You!

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. God bless you

  • @Myohomoto
    @Myohomoto 3 месяца назад +4

    ❤ This is one of the most well informed and charitable explanations of both rites I have ever heard! And I have sought out a few hundred! You are a blessing 🙏 ❤❤❤

  • @TheVietnameseCatholic
    @TheVietnameseCatholic 3 месяца назад +3

    This video provides alot of insight accurately. I might make something on this. The youth need to be heard.

  • @senan.sheedy
    @senan.sheedy 3 месяца назад +5

    I'm been serving the Latin Mass for about 11 years now, I've worked my way up to MC, and I'm now 17 , I teach to serve the Latin. mass, and I'm sacristan

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +1

      Awesome! You sure got an early start

  • @rdm47579
    @rdm47579 3 месяца назад +8

    Wow! You gave an absolutely moving testimony of your faith, your devotion to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and the inspiration you have found in the Usus Antiquior liturgy. You were confident in expressing your thoughts, and you were conciliatory toward those who prefer the Novus Ordo liturgy. I really mean this: Out of the whole RUclips universe, I have never heard anyone explain why they are devoted to the Extraordinary Form of the Mass better than you did in this video. Way to go, young man! (And by the way, I can definitely picture you offering the Holy Mass as a priest some day, if God wills.)

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +7

      Thank you so much! I get asked all the time if I'm going to be a priest. Honestly, I'd prefer to get married and have a family, but only God knows the future!

  • @SharonJacobs-r2h
    @SharonJacobs-r2h 3 месяца назад +3

    Thank you, Thank you, Thank you !...🥰 I'm a convert to holy mother church. I've been very ill for decades and found Mother Angelica on EWTN on t.v. She and St, Pope John Paul II lit a fire in me and a love for the Latin mass. I was raised in the Baptist Church, quite a change to the Catholic faith. Many that I knew were displeased with my decision,There are no traditional mass churches in my area. Although I do love the mass when I'm able to go, I miss the traditional mass I feel we're short changing, not only ourselves but, more importantly, our Lord. I'm the only woman that wears a veil and has been asked several times why. I believe it's pleasing to Him since He asked women to cover their heads when they prayed. A small thing to do to please Him. I truly miss it with all my heart. I can only pray that the church reconsiders a change "forward" to draw ever closer to heaven and return to the Latin mass. Thank you for your work on behalf of our church...🫂..✝️

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      Thank you for your beautiful story! God bless you, and I pray for the healing of your illness🙏

  • @silvierousso3995
    @silvierousso3995 3 месяца назад +5

    God Bless you young man !

  • @katpellot5898
    @katpellot5898 3 месяца назад +2

    💯 on sacred music! Thank you for sharing your experience! Great video

  • @PatriciaCooksey-wr8hd
    @PatriciaCooksey-wr8hd 3 месяца назад +3

    I am glad to hear that you are familiar with St John Cantius in Chicago. I have been a member of a different parish served by the Canons Regular for a long time and get to sing in the choir there. We do Gregorian chant for the Novus Ordo as well as the Latin form and are privileged to have four choirs one of which is a men’s schola. I appreciate your enthusiasm for a reverent tradition in the Catholic Church.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! That sounds amazing

    • @Myohomoto
      @Myohomoto 3 месяца назад

      ❤St.Peter Volo❤

  • @anonymouscrank
    @anonymouscrank 3 месяца назад +4

    Your future seminarian reminds me of a TLM where the shortest altar boy served as MC. It was a kick to see him direct the other servers, even adults, toward their proper places.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +1

      I would love to see that! 😂 The Altar Server ministry is such a blessing

  • @mazikode
    @mazikode 3 месяца назад +6

    Excellent episode. Thank you for detailing your experience serving the Latin mass. Serving the Latin mass is amazing, I always watch the servers and pray for them because it's just amazing how everything flows, i never see anything go wrong. I would be so nervous and I always pray for them. Thanks and God bless you.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      Oh things definitely go wrong all the time, you just don't notice it because they have to act professional 😂Thank you so much for the kind words!

  • @nathanvangoor4979
    @nathanvangoor4979 3 месяца назад +3

    I too was standing out as an altar servant in the NOM because I wasn't as casual as others.
    It was al too clear that I would fit much better in the TLM.

  • @picklej5313
    @picklej5313 3 месяца назад +3

    I’m a volunteer for our choir for the big masses and I agree with the music choice. If I have to sing ‘Los peces en el río’ again I’m going to be sad. I want reverence 😢

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      Me too. "One Bread, One Body" just doesn't
      do it for me 😂

  • @davidhirt9129
    @davidhirt9129 3 месяца назад +2

    I attended my very first latin mass in Nuremberg, Germany this Sunday. It was something special, no normal mass has given me that sense of the presence of god before. I am thinking about serving the traditional mass too.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      I'd definitely recommend it!

  • @adonaisimage
    @adonaisimage 2 месяца назад +1

    I've been altar serving almost weekly since my baptism (this year) and I've quickly noticed a lot of the formalities I was taught / picked up on are verbatim the same as the latin mass. Very interesting!

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  2 месяца назад

      Which rite do you serve in?

    • @adonaisimage
      @adonaisimage 2 месяца назад

      @@Altare_Dei Roman rite Novus Ordo. Our priests are very keen on tradition, though. Little things such as extra rings during the bells have been carried over from the latin mass

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  2 месяца назад

      @@adonaisimage Interesting!

  • @myronmercado
    @myronmercado 3 месяца назад +3

    This is a great video. I'm sad that many fans of the TLM are causing division within the Catholic Church, but happy that many young cradle and converts are attracted to the Latin mass. It's ok to love the TLM. But no divisions please. Remember satan is the lover of divisions.

  • @JackieArmB
    @JackieArmB 3 месяца назад +5

    I was 12 years old when they first started shoving the new catechism. I immediately recognized the hypocrisy and refused to return to the Novus Ordo. My mom tried to get me to return, but I had to refuse. I couldn't find a TLM until I became an adult. Thanks be to God that Archbishop Lefebvre resisted the changes or we wouldn't have a TLM today.

  • @jameskearney4100
    @jameskearney4100 3 месяца назад +2

    Pray to GOD !!!

  • @pticman
    @pticman 3 месяца назад +4

    I love the TLM. I attend this mass at our local SSPX chapel here in Las Vegas

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +2

      @@pticman TLM is great! I hope the SSPX can return to full communion soon

    • @pticman
      @pticman 3 месяца назад

      @Altare_Dei they are in full communion with the Vatican. They pray for the pope as part of the liturgy. They teach that NO is valid but they advise us to attend TLM because the NO has a protestant twist.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +2

      Nevertheless, their situation is regarded as canonically irregular. I simply hope we can see a full reconciliation between them and the Holy See so they can enjoy full canonical regularity once again

    • @pticman
      @pticman 3 месяца назад

      @Altare_Dei Pope Francis hates TLM and he wants to ban all TLMs all over the world. It has started is some diocese in the US.

    • @henryvonblumenthal7307
      @henryvonblumenthal7307 3 месяца назад +1

      The Holy Father said in writing that those who go to SSPX Masses are faithful Catholics

  • @xiomarablanco5598
    @xiomarablanco5598 3 месяца назад +4

    The Pope needs to promote the TLM not restrict it to the point of prohibit it. Unacceptable!

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +2

      Agreed!

    • @maricamarkovic3305
      @maricamarkovic3305 2 месяца назад

      Pa to je. presveta Misa ali to je prava sveta Rimo Katolička misa a daju nam moderne Satanisticke cirkuske i grijeh u moderne Crkve ja sam davno. okrenula ledja modernizma

  • @annfarmer7966
    @annfarmer7966 3 месяца назад +1

    Articulate and insightful view of the traditional Latin Mass. Many years ago, the Church gave children the compliment of treating them as grown-ups; then they started dumbing-down the liturgy because they thought that little children couldn't understand it. Now, as this young altar server observes, only old people like the modern Mass, while young people are flocking to the Latin Mass. The Latin Mass is ever young; it never grows old, as people do. Our ancestors died for the Latin Mass - how can we throw it away? Many thanks for this very pertinent contribution to the debate.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! Well said

  • @christopherdeleon5600
    @christopherdeleon5600 3 месяца назад +3

    Exactly what we talked about it’s that we all follow and believe in the same God and he died for us all there’s no point in having a division. Jacob for Pope 💪🏼

  • @daffodilstang5292
    @daffodilstang5292 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks be to GOD,✝️✝️✝️ that Novos Ordo TLM is attracting many Altar servers n faithful attending in this beautiful Church. Keep it up, bros n sisters in Christ.🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️💞💞💞
    Greetings from a faithful in Japan attending SSPX mass in Osaka, Tokyo n other big cities in Japan, n we too are having many newcomers, converts n Protestants reverting to our Catholic faith n TLM.
    ALL PRAISE N GLORY BE TO GOD.❤❤❤✝️✝️✝️🙏🙏🙏
    GOD N Mother Mary wants us, Catholics n Christians from other denominations to unite n fight this Spiritual Warfare against these evil group that has been destroying GOD's children n taking them to Hell.🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️

  • @LisaKnobel
    @LisaKnobel 3 месяца назад +4

    I highly recommend learning how to pray the Rosary in Latin. You will be able to find some familiar things and not feel so lost.
    Also, learn the basic N.O. responses in Latin. The Gloria, Sanctus, Agnus Dei.
    These will give you familiar spots so you stay oriented in the mass.
    Finally, remember, the TLM is a mass of Trust, Rest, & Surrender. The priest and servers know what they are doing & have all the responsibility. Allow them to offer the sacrifice for you. Invite Jesus & Mary to minister to your soul and teach you what to do.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +4

      @@LisaKnobel Amen! Latin has essentially become my second language, and oftentimes I can understand what the priest is saying at TLM even without translation

    • @pticman
      @pticman 3 месяца назад +3

      @LisaKnobel I pray the whole rosary in Latin from the Credo to Salve Regina, to Sancte Michael Archangele and the Magnificat. I love praying the rosary in Latin.🥰

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +1

      @@pticman Me too!

  • @daviddragona1853
    @daviddragona1853 3 месяца назад +2

    MORE ALTER BOYS PLEASE LISTEN 👂 THANK YOU

  • @robertshillenn6404
    @robertshillenn6404 3 месяца назад +1

    The ideal of the liturgy is to bring the faithful closer to the mystery of faith. According to the general tradition of the Church, the liturgy must be comprehensible to the faithful. At the same time, the liturgy must harken back to the ancient Tradition of the Church. True liturgical practice must bring these aspects together.

  • @NicelyNicelyJohnson2
    @NicelyNicelyJohnson2 2 месяца назад

    @Altare Dei : after watching this per your recommendation, I did indeed agree with quite a few points you made in addressing the differences between the ordinary and extraordinary mass. Of course I agree with unity in the Church, as all Catholics should. The most important point you made was about the inconsistency with the ordinary mass, and that has always been my problem with the modernized form of Catholic worship. True, the same sacrifice happens during the mass, and is a perfectly valid sacrament and form of worship, but by changing the rituals of the worship post Vatican II, they took the first step from solid ground (tradition) onto a slippery slope. We've seen through the years how it continues to evolve (or as some might say devolve) and in many cases like some of the examples you gave from your own personal experience, get further from the traditional rituals. As they do get further from tradition, they change more rules, have women as priests, have lay people handling the sacred host, and in many places it seems to become more of a performance for the people, and more about feeling good than it is about prayerful worship. I just think we, the Church as a whole, need to stop and realize that there is a point where progress is no longer progress. Being too progressive and adapting the Church to the people, rather than leading by example, will ultimately result in not only not progressing toward heaven, but moving further away from God.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  2 месяца назад +1

      @@NicelyNicelyJohnson2 I agree! In fact, the GIRM says that we should use the Tridentine Rite to inform our N.O. celebrations in any case of uncertainty, which I wish we would do more often.

  • @johnbradbury4000
    @johnbradbury4000 3 месяца назад +3

    At our church we have five year old boys training for the TLM. They are very devout and a joy to watch.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      My TLM has a bunch of little altar boys who serve devoutly. One is so young he hasn't even received his first communion yet!

    • @johnbradbury4000
      @johnbradbury4000 3 месяца назад

      @@Altare_Dei same here.

    • @johnbradbury4000
      @johnbradbury4000 3 месяца назад

      @@Altare_Dei Our church is St Anne's in Belmont in Perth West Australia. Our Archbishop is agaimnst the TLM. He sacked our Rector who hasa been told he caqnnot say Mass in any church in the archdiocese of Perth but he is welcome to celebrate the NO. He put severe restrictions on the Masses he was allowed to say. Over 800 of us petitioned him and he changed his mind b uit the day will come when he shuts us down because that is what Pope Francis wants and the Archbishop is very ambitious and probably is looking for a red hat.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      @@johnbradbury4000 I used to follow St Anne's until that situation happened back in January. So sad! Those livestreams were how I learned the TLM. Praying for you guys 🙏

  • @johnchung6777
    @johnchung6777 3 месяца назад

    Exceedingly excellent gorges blessed truthful testimony from this young man,and I must say this that what he had said that when he was serving the traditional Catholic Mass he felt that he was an angel while serving the Holy Mass which is exactly what he’s doing for it’s what Jesus said to his Apostles that they shall see heaven open and the Angels of God descending and ascending upon the Son Of Man.May the All Powerful Glorious Exalted Praise Worthy and Thankworthy Holy Trinity Bless and Fill You Abundantly with Truth Graces and Virtues for the rest of your life Amen Deo Gratis Alleluia Hosanna In Excelsis Deo Gloria In Excelsis Deo 🙏🐑🕊️✨🔥

  • @robertdunn6064
    @robertdunn6064 3 месяца назад +1

    I placed your video in my blog. I'm a member of FSSP and SSPX churches in Sacramento. I trace the Latin Mass to Pope St. Victor I, give extensive coverage to Mass of the Ages, and uncover the secrecy surrounding the New Mass of 1969. Please comment. My readers and I appreciate that. Belen, Miami - I attended St. Ignatius, SF. -Bob

  • @TheVietnameseCatholic
    @TheVietnameseCatholic 3 месяца назад

    The Tridentine Mass IS the Roman Use of the Western/Roman Rite, but codified and formalized. Many variants had existed such as Lyons, Sarum, the various Gallican ones, Braga, York, Durham, and many, many more. The Tridentine Mass was a standardization in accordance to Quo Primum which still permitted the usage of these rites but ensured a standard for Mass. This was to create a universal liturgy for the Latin Church and ensure that the liturgy would not fracture. The liturgy has evolved as any other liturgy, nothing more or less. Other than that, I'm listening to this video from an audio download.
    I love your content.
    God bless man. Sancta Pie V, ora pro nobis.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      Thank you! I love your content as well. God bless!

  • @DigitalMan1100
    @DigitalMan1100 3 месяца назад +2

    I hope you continue to deepen your understanding of the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) and the Catholic faith. TLM is more than elegance or aesthetics; the fruit it bears is a different faith from the Novus Ordo (NO), which is why modern Rome opposes it. At the end of the video, you suggest that the Society of Saint Pius X (FSSPX) is in a similar situation to the Eastern Orthodox Church, which is incorrect. FSSPX is part of the Catholic Church, IMHO serving as protectors of the Mass of all Ages, priesthood and the Catholic faith until the errors of modernism are eradicated from Christ's Church.
    You either believe the Church is passing through a deep crisis - Passion (as the FSSPX position holds) or that there is no real problem, just a matter of taste, and we should adapt to the times and the world.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      That wasn't what I was suggesting. I was merely saying that the SSPX (which operates outside of Rome's authority and is considered to some degree separate) and the Orthodox Church are the main places people go when they aren't satisfied with their local Catholic Church. I would also object to your characterization of the N.O., which contradicts Church teaching, and I would argue that you are making a false dichotomy about the state of the Church.

    • @DigitalMan1100
      @DigitalMan1100 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Altare_Dei Honestly, that's how it appears, and you've hinted at it as well. However, that's alright. I believe you will eventually understand the situation.
      I'm confident you'll one day grasp the crisis within the Church and recognize those who remain faithful Our Lord.
      God bless you.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +2

      @@DigitalMan1100 Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.

    • @ryanscottlogan8459
      @ryanscottlogan8459 2 месяца назад

      Amen 1000%

  • @agentbrian8485
    @agentbrian8485 3 месяца назад +2

    I watched in 1.5 times speed am I cooked

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      Bro can't spare 29 minutes to watch me talk at a normal speed

  • @bamesjond7495
    @bamesjond7495 Месяц назад

    Rest assured things will return back to tradition. It will take time and the church at large will need to shrink more before any more changes would occur. My guess is we are going to see a Vatican 3 in our lifetime which will include sweeping liturgical changes.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  Месяц назад

      My thoughts exactly. And we should distinguish between "shrinking" and "dying". The Church is already shrinking, but definitely not dying. If anything, she's getting stronger imo

  • @agentbrian8485
    @agentbrian8485 3 месяца назад +1

    I love traditions in the mass I’m not Latin type of guy tho

  • @dariusclovis1374
    @dariusclovis1374 3 месяца назад

    So, you think that the Novus Ordo Missae can cohabit with the TLM in an adulterous union?

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      Well, when you say it like that it sounds weird 😅

  • @CDave1972
    @CDave1972 3 месяца назад +2

    The Tridentine mass was codified in 1570 in Quo Primum by Pope Saint Pius V. This mass goes back to Saint Peter and the apostles. This is the only true Roman Rite of the Mass.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +1

      The ONLY Roman Rite? What about the different Pre-Tridentine liturgies that existed and were used before Trent? And the additions that were made to the Canon in the fifth century? I love Tridentine Mass, but to say that it goes back to the apostles directly and is the only Roman Rite is not true.

    • @CDave1972
      @CDave1972 3 месяца назад

      @@Altare_Dei Father Ripperger did the research and did say that he traced it back to the apostles. This mass has developed into what it is today. Quo Primum and the Council of Trent codified the mass and the only changes at this time was clarifications of some of the more confusing text. Prior to 1570 there was slight differences in the mass depending on where you were. This was corrected so that the mass is said the same no matter where in the world you go to mass.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      @@CDave1972 Fr. Ripperger also acknowledges the validity of the N.O. and criticizes those traditionalists who hold exclusivist views about TLM as Gnostics. (Series on Tradition 10/10: Problems Today ~ Fr Ripperger - Sensus Fidelium)

    • @markkirkland561
      @markkirkland561 3 месяца назад

      Enjoyed your video very much. As a point of interest more Catholic altars were destroyed by Vatican II liturgists than during the Protestant reformation. I also think that the pope should make the Anglican Ordinariate rite the new ordinary rite, keep the TLM and lose the Novus Ordo.

    • @CDave1972
      @CDave1972 3 месяца назад

      @@Altare_Dei it’s valid, but also illicit. Father misses the mark on this. Father Hesse had more input into this with years of studying this.

  • @paulmurray3671
    @paulmurray3671 3 месяца назад

    I was not "wrong" t0 support Mass in the language 0f the people. I am fed up with Traditionalists with their "h0lier than th0u" attitude passing judgment 0n those 0f us who enjoy the contemporary Mass.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад +2

      I wasn't trying to pass judgment on anyone. I agree that certain parts of the Mass should be said in the vernacular, like the Readings or the Collect, since they change daily. However, I think it was a mistake to totally abandon the holy language of the Church and of our Roman Catholic heritage, one which unites people across language barriers. Rather than setting people apart, it can bring them together in faith.

    • @paulmurray3671
      @paulmurray3671 3 месяца назад

      @@Altare_Dei The earliest liturgies would have been in Greek 0r Aramaic, n0t Latin. I think it is wrong to EQUATE holiness with Latin.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      @@paulmurray3671 That's true, but I wasn't equating it with holiness, I was just saying that the Roman Catholic Church considers it a holy language

  • @challengable
    @challengable 3 месяца назад

    Humility is bound to prayer and truth. A man who is not humble is a man who has shallow faith. The Latin Mass teaches mankind dependence. Dependence on the Father as little children.
    Those who are easily humiliated are also suffering from shallow faith. Christ allowed Himself to be taken care of and raised by a woman and a step father. He is God, humility. The Latin Mass teaches mankind his rightful place at the foot of the cross on Calvary. The new mass has no such capability.

  • @nathanvangoor4979
    @nathanvangoor4979 3 месяца назад

    Incorporating the NOM aspects you prefer into the TLM is a terrible idea.
    It's pride that makes us want to redesign the Mass into our own sacrifice.
    Especially false antiquarianism is a big danger; we should always remember that responsorial psalms and the like were replaced for a good reason that is now lost to time. Only if we trust the Church, trust the tradition, we can appreciate the TLM the way we are meant to.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      I appreciate the TLM for what it is, but the TLM itself saw liturgical reforms over time according to the pastoral guidance of Rome. My argument is simply that the N.O. reforms could've been done more moderately, without drafting an entirely new version of the Mass.

    • @nathanvangoor4979
      @nathanvangoor4979 3 месяца назад

      @@Altare_Dei But who decides what reforms get to stay? If the answer is Rome, we simply get the current situation, which is not what you want.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      @@nathanvangoor4979 hasn't the answer always been Rome?

    • @nathanvangoor4979
      @nathanvangoor4979 3 месяца назад

      @@Altare_Dei Then you should just accept the reforms as immoderate as they are.

    • @Altare_Dei
      @Altare_Dei  3 месяца назад

      @@nathanvangoor4979 would a wholesale return to TLM everywhere overnight be feasible?