@@ctr289 Our posted specs are correct. Sealing a port does grant the user more extension, but not within a +/-3dB window. If looked at within a strictly +/-3dB window, all ports open does enable more extension. Those specs are copied directly from Arendal’s product page, by the way.
James never say sorry for writing long reviews. Absolutely love and admire your attention to detail. Also appreciate the huge amount of work you put into these reviews. A lot of heavy lifting both physically and mentally.
I completely agree: the long reviews mean to me the seriousness that you put into your work. This gives us the perfect assessment we need from an expert we are not... Thanks James Larson!
James Larson is one of the most respected reviewers in my opinion. He and Erin from Erin's Audio Corner are the two people that I find the most informative and reliable. James explains what he hears and measures in a way that makes sense to me and he's phenomenal at it. He never seems to over hype things and he can be complimentary while taking a critical look at the small details. I hope you know how valued your work is James.
Audioholics is my favorite channel on High-End audio. It's High-End audio conversation without all the pretension. Also, the equipment preferences are closest to my own. Keep up the good and entertaining reviews. I kind of prefer elegant towers to little bookshelf speakers on stands. Physics can by manipulated, but never fooled. Authentic Bass reproduction requires a woofer to room dimension equation to be convincing. Although, I have been impressed with small powered towers that can surprise! However, and generally speaking "size matters".
1723 Tower S owner and despite the review saying DO NOT close the ports, I do. Why? Well to my ears they sound better as simple as that. More accurate sound in the mids and bass and the treble just sings, listening to music with these in the that config is sublime. If it was movies only and I didn't want the accuracy then sure, maybe leave them both ported so they go a bit lower but that for me isn't optimal for all scenarios. They are partnered with a sealed Arendal Sub but I don't use that in 2 channel at all only movies. Using a standard Denon 4000 series amp and a power amp for the L+R and that offers plenty of power and control. My ears give out way way before the speakers do and there is zero distortion before I wimp out and at that point the pressure levels in the room in 2 channel sealed is still crazy.
I’m running a complete Arendal 11.1.6 theater system with the 8” 1723 THX towers for LCR sealed and it’s amazing! Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but if you’re on the fence, do not hesitate to go with Arendal. The 2V sub and surrounds give much more than could ever be needed.
Great video review! I have the 1723 Center. I have been somewhat up in the air of the 1723 Monitors vs the 1723S Towers but James answered my biggest question at the 40:00 mark recommending the 1723 Monitors over the 1723 S Towers when used with dedicated subs which matched exactly what Arendal recommended to me via email so now i have my second opinion answered from a trusted source, Thank you.
Another awesome review by both of you, thanks for sharing Gene. If you had choice between the Arendal 1723 or Paradigm Founder 100F, which would you choose? I know there is price difference, but is Paradigm worth the extra money? Or possibly the Paradigm 80F which is much closer in price. I'm wanting to upgrade my speakers and I'm interested in both of these.
In my opinion, such an analysis does not have to apologize for the length of this one, James and Gene It is rather a pleasure to read such a substantial work. James Larson is an expert in whom I will give my full confidence without any hesitation.
It's funny looking at these speakers because in the early 1990s I designed a speaker with 4 6.5" Peerless woofers as a 2.5 way system and a D Appolito top part like these. I still have the catalog I printed up back then with all of my designs. I am revamping my line-up as we speak since being out of the business for a while. Time to re-imagine what speakers should be these days.
@@davidjudd951 3 ways are a bit more complicated in the crossover. A 2.5 way is a 2 way with a low pass on the other woofer(s). The 2.5 way is an easy way to get around the baffle step compensation as well, which usually ends up with higher output for a given amount of power.
I tried running these full range for a while but I went back to sealed. They do sound really good full range but I prefer sealing them and crossing over to my subs. I think this goes back to the fact that the best place for bass is almost never the same spot as your L&R speakers. My subs are placed properly in my room and just do a much better job.
@@CptaiNPogo in my room and my setup, the best locations for both subs ended up being on the front wall out from the corners several feet. Every room will be different
Great review as always Gene & James. I almost went this route (towers & monitors) for my bed layer. I ended up with Premier 800f & 500b instead. What changed my mind was wider dispersion & the center channel design (wtmw vs mtm) of the Paradigms.
Thank you for this review! I've been waiting for this one! Very informative. These towers have moved to the top of my list for my new 2 channel set up!
Really? Your impressed that they have a massive dip in compression at 85db and and up in the upper frequency range? Did you not watch the same video I did?
So how do these compare to the raal ascend sierra towers and the bmr philharmonic? The monitors seem like the better buy. S model smaller room regular 1723 large room?
So many speakers in this price range, and you probably can't hear/audition most of them in your town, least I can't. I listened to kef, klipsch tannoy, linn, and finally based my choice on an amazing open box sale of Martin logan 60xti for 1300. They all sounded great and it's really a matter of taste.
@@raidergainzx5290 I still have the ml 60xt, the only ones that I consider a big upgrade would be the Kanta 2, but it really matters on what you like. The sonus faber have a following and they have their own sound. I would love to be somewhere In between like the two is ATC I do like those, but they don't have waf .
Based off your review and a few others, I decided to get a pair of the Arendal 1723 S Towers. They just got here today. As you know, these things were packaged amazingly well. The US military probably doesn't use this much care when transporting a nuke. I realize there's a 50 hour break in period, but these sound amazing right out of the box. Can't wait to see what they do later. The 1723 center channel arrives in a few days. Running them with a Marantz Cinema 50. There's a process to switch the amplifier impedance to 4 Ohm in the Marantz user manual, which I recommend everyone remember to do if you get these speakers. Thanks again guys.
Andrew reviewed the 1691 not 1723 S. I am also very interested in how the R700 compare to the 1723 S. Jay says the 1723 towers (8" verison) out performed the R700 but they also are $1500 more. But he also says the KHL Kendell sounds better in the midrange and highs than the R700, he says the Kendell only falls short to the R700 in bass. He says the Kendell sound more highend/audiophile. He says the R700 to him is not quite there in the midrange and highs
Hate to throw in another thought but the new martin logan xt motion f100s are the one to get. I currently use my 15 year old polk lsi 15 speakers , 4 of them and the lsic center. I did update my prosessor the an anthem avm 60 a few years ago. I was ready to get the R700 but after the reviews on the motions for me they are the one. Especially the white. I can wait to save up for 4 of those and a center. Just played Gaucho in sacd surround and with my powersound 15 inch subs dialed in and running anthems arc, those old speakers sound pretty good. Some magnolia best buys might have the logans available to demo. Its a 5k speaker that sounds like a wilson or a high end b&w. For just a 2 channel, you might consider the logans.
I have a pair of the 1723 S Towers and I'm delighted with them. Watching this video tempted me to try them out and I'm glad I did. I use with one port plugged and I have not noticed any lack of bass. For example in bass dominant tracks such as Genesis: Dance on a Volcano and Squonk from Trick of the Tail the bass come thru' loud and clear. Detail seems better defined particularly on the "vibrato tone" on the bass during the above two tracks. Hope this helps.
Hi Gene/James, would the Arendal 1723 s thx towers , bookshelves, and center be a noticeable worth while upgrade over the Svs Ultra towers, center, and bookshelves? Really value your guys expertise opinions and reviews thank you
Having just finished watching the 3 part series on getting the best bass in a room. It would seem that the recommended crossover to the subs is usually no lower than 80Hz. Yet we see most systems have full range towers for the L&R. Why would a full range speaker be recommended at all vs a speaker that was strong down into the 65Hz range? Thanks for all the great info you have made available over the years.
I'm stuck upgrading my front 3 (currently run rtiA9 and legend L400) and I'm unsure if I should stick with the legend line or try out Arendal's 1723 thx line with their S surrounds
Beginning to sparkle clarity definition, you need a good high current amp with low distortion and they sing. I’m using 500 and their wonderful wonderful.
Beautiful speakers but Im a bit concerned with how the Center channel sounds because of its MTM configuration ? I only have one center seat in my home theater so it might not be a concern.
I'd like to see a comparison of the Double Impacts and anything else by a reputable reviewer. Seems like candid reviews or objective measurements of Tekton DI are a rare thing.
17:06 Crossover guy! LOL. I know who you guys are talking about. He really hates them sand-cast resistors. The feud between Crossover guy and Measurement guy seems to have ended last week with an apology from Crossover guy.
@@audiotechguy This is what I've thought since the whole topic came up. I respect them both and think we all could learn something from them having a nice long chat about audio :)
Thanks for this. I currently have 2 Arendal 1V subs and thinking of which to upgrade to as I currently have Monitor Audio silver 8i first British series and still good but they are beasts and not sure if they would fit in my room. For amps i have Iotaavx17 and power amp and running 5.1.2 on this so not sure if it would be enough? Thanks
Yeah they look like a good make well built sensibly priced nice to see these days! they work really well if you bi-amp them with a valve amplifier and that doesn't have to be expensive and the class D or class A B for the woofers you have a really great system
I'm on the fence I'm debating between The Arendal 1723 vs the JBL HDI-3800. I would love to hear the 1723 in person to be able to make a real comparison.
Hi Gene. I'm also using these along with 3 SVS PB1000 Pros I believe you said to run these FULL RANGE? So instead of the usual 80HZ Xover I should set them at a lower value in the Anthem? I'm using the Anthem MRX740 but the fronts are powered externally using a McIntosh MA8900.
@@Audioholics I do want to get a sub and go atoms with these speakers but that will take time. For now, I will get 2 towers and center. Also, my place is under 3k ft so I will do the S version
@@Audioholics If listening 10-15db below reference, would you still choose the 8" version for 5000 ft3 room (but short 2.35m listening distance, it's open space)? Or will the 6.5" be enough then (and would they be better)? What is "wrong" with the 8" for a
Gene and James, I’m on the fence and I gotta know what you guys think. Arendal 1723 Towers or Paradigm Founder 100f? You’ve had em both, I haven’t. Dedicated 20x15 theater, Parasound power, 70/30 music to video.
I own both. I prefer the founders for music and arendal for movies. For both applications I’d chose the arendal. Both powered by parasound a51 and anthem avm90
@@Smellslikegelfling I've also heard a couple of reviewers mention that some may perceive them as bright. I have the 1723 Monitor and I haven't experienced any brightness myself. Medium sized room with no treatment but it's carpeted and has very large heavy furniture. I've heard speakers in the same room that sounded bright in the past. Svs ultra in particular was very hard sounding in all rooms I tried it in and unfortunately had to return them. Klipsch was a little bright in here also. I'd say try the Arendal as it's a very low risk demo.
I've got prime pinnacles and dual sb 2000 pros, but if the day ever comes when I got nothing better to spend my money on I wanna up them to the equivalent arendal setup.
Great no BS review as always going way back ! I saw on the web site you were planning to review the Monitor Silver 500 7G. My list is either that or these Arendal tower S speakers. Will the Silver 500 review happen ? Thanks
I'm in the exact same boat. My room is not ideal...but I have to live with it. I have a pair of 803 Nautilus right now. And although they are good speakers. The are just too bright/forward for me, but I also know my room plays a big part in in. I've eq-ed it a bit..but I know there's better stuff for less money. This or the Polks are on the top of my list to try out. But I'm extremely sensitive to bright tweeters.
After seing your review I am considering changing my more expensive Dynaudio Contour 30 for Arendal 1723... Dynaudio looks kind of cheap comparing to those...
I've heard the 1723 compares favourably to the KEF R series, although I have not personally heard these as they don't use dealers. I am looking to upgrade from KEF Q Series to these speakers potentially.
Those speakers looks really good for the money, what kind of output are those speakers cabable of, if i would not run b&w 702 s2, i would try those, i discovered Arendal just recently, 1723 1s is pared with my b&w speakers and i can only say good things about it, looks very solid very well built, i really trumps my old b&w asw610 in every way not just in terms of output, also much better in sq, and settnings you can do with the app
@@chriss881000 yes they look impressive but i will stick with my 702 s2, they are really impressive with sq in my opinion but kind of bad with poor recordings i never find them boring through they give me goosebumps plenty of times too but the Arendal sub is must in my opinion to get the full experince
Is THX still a useful certification now that it's been bought and sold and sold and bought? I know good speakers don't need to be tested and certified to THX, but it used to be that if the speaker was THX certified, it was some good stuff.
Heys guys I listen to a lot of ROCK & Blues music what would u recommend for towers (6k Budget) that just overall kill it? I'm running Anthem STR components with 2 Velodyne SPL1000 subs. Thanks!
Paradigm Founder 100F is very good. Revel Performa3 F208 ought to be considered. JBL HDI-3800 is a good one. The Arendal 1723 THX Tower is killer as well.
@@jameslarson2277 hi James, I have a question that I hope you can answer here since I'm not a forum member. I just bought a pair of Polk R700 for $825 each, a steal in my opinion. I got them set up and calibrated and they sound terrific. I can only imagine it will be even better once I have the L400 center and upgrade my sub to duals. My question is, would I be better served by Arendal 1723 S towers or 1723 THX monitors? I have a fairly large room but usually watch movies at a moderate level so I'm not sure if I would benefit from the extra output. For the price of the Polks I feel like I'm getting more value considering I can get a full LCR for less than the Arendal towers alone. I'd audition them at home but that's a lot of cash to pay out even if it gets refunded. Plus I'm pretty sure the Polk center channel is superior. Thanks for your thoughts.
It's ok to need help putting a 70lb speaker on a raised platform, regardless of the condition or finish. Don't let meat heads pressure you into justifying. lol
They just look so meh(!) If they had different options on grill colours or the white options could have white drivers etc people like me who care would be much more likely to buy them 😅 For many people speakers are in a central part of the home and viewed throughout the day especially if you work from home.. I'm probably going to dabble in making DIY speaker grills before considering buying these.. ✌️
is it just me or does it seem unusually off-putting to hear a god-awful sound clip as the introduction to the show i am hoping to learn from in the areas of sound and music? i love the content you put out, please stop punishing me with that dub track every time I tune in 😅
1723 S are not the biggest ones. 1723S 3K +Tax a pair direct, if you where to buy them retail, which they do not do. They probably would be in the 5K + range and the 1723 THX in the 7K to 8K range. 1723 THX is their biggest tower and best sounding.
They just look so meh(!) If they had different options on grill colours or the white options could have white drivers etc people like me who care would be much more likely to buy them 😅 For many people speakers are in a central part of the home and viewed throughout the day especially if you work from home.. I'm probably going to dabble in making DIY speaker grills before considering buying these.. ✌️
Read our Arendal Sound 1723 Tower S THX Speaker Review:bit.ly/Arendal1723towerS
Arendal 1723 Tower S: bit.ly/Arendal1723s
Arendal 1723 Center S: bit.ly/3c2Zfos
Arendal 1723 Surround S: bit.ly/3uA2OZG
Arendal 1723 1V Subwoofer: bit.ly/3nSeweI
The specs are wrong, the extension is reversed between the port settings. The 2 vents should be less extended in bass frequency.
@@ctr289 Our posted specs are correct. Sealing a port does grant the user more extension, but not within a +/-3dB window. If looked at within a strictly +/-3dB window, all ports open does enable more extension. Those specs are copied directly from Arendal’s product page, by the way.
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James never say sorry for writing long reviews. Absolutely love and admire your attention to detail. Also appreciate the huge amount of work you put into these reviews. A lot of heavy lifting both physically and mentally.
I completely agree: the long reviews mean to me the seriousness that you put into your work. This gives us the perfect assessment we need from an expert we are not... Thanks James Larson!
James Larson is one of the most respected reviewers in my opinion. He and Erin from Erin's Audio Corner are the two people that I find the most informative and reliable. James explains what he hears and measures in a way that makes sense to me and he's phenomenal at it. He never seems to over hype things and he can be complimentary while taking a critical look at the small details. I hope you know how valued your work is James.
For sure. It's why I have him under lock and key in my Florida basement and only let him out to test speakers and subs 😉
@@Audioholics 🤣Thanks for what you do to Gene. Audioholics is one of the few trustworthy sources out there!
@@Audioholics hilarious!!
Audioholics is my favorite channel on High-End audio.
It's High-End audio conversation without all the pretension.
Also, the equipment preferences are closest to my own.
Keep up the good and entertaining reviews.
I kind of prefer elegant towers to little bookshelf speakers on stands. Physics can by manipulated, but never fooled. Authentic Bass reproduction requires a woofer to room dimension equation to be convincing.
Although, I have been impressed with small powered towers that can surprise!
However, and generally speaking "size matters".
1723 Tower S owner and despite the review saying DO NOT close the ports, I do. Why? Well to my ears they sound better as simple as that. More accurate sound in the mids and bass and the treble just sings, listening to music with these in the that config is sublime. If it was movies only and I didn't want the accuracy then sure, maybe leave them both ported so they go a bit lower but that for me isn't optimal for all scenarios. They are partnered with a sealed Arendal Sub but I don't use that in 2 channel at all only movies. Using a standard Denon 4000 series amp and a power amp for the L+R and that offers plenty of power and control. My ears give out way way before the speakers do and there is zero distortion before I wimp out and at that point the pressure levels in the room in 2 channel sealed is still crazy.
Always pick the sound you like. Everybody have different kind of taste so I'm with you on this one.
Enjoy your speakers!
On the Arendal 1723 chart when you seal the ports the chart looks so much smoother. My SVS SB-16's are sealed so I run my 1723 S LCR all sealed.
I’m running a complete Arendal 11.1.6 theater system with the 8” 1723 THX towers for LCR sealed and it’s amazing! Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but if you’re on the fence, do not hesitate to go with Arendal. The 2V sub and surrounds give much more than could ever be needed.
How these compared with the svs ultras
How are you liking them as sealed? Would you prefer it over ported?
Yeah, go for the full sized ones.
James is the definition of pragmatic. He has perfect human characteristics to test and report on speakers I consider spending my money on.
Great video review! I have the 1723 Center. I have been somewhat up in the air of the 1723 Monitors vs the 1723S Towers but James answered my biggest question at the 40:00 mark recommending the 1723 Monitors over the 1723 S Towers when used with dedicated subs which matched exactly what Arendal recommended to me via email so now i have my second opinion answered from a trusted source, Thank you.
Another awesome review by both of you, thanks for sharing Gene. If you had choice between the Arendal 1723 or Paradigm Founder 100F, which would you choose? I know there is price difference, but is Paradigm worth the extra money? Or possibly the Paradigm 80F which is much closer in price. I'm wanting to upgrade my speakers and I'm interested in both of these.
How do they compare to the Polk R700 you guys reviewed?? I hope one day the Ascend Acoustics Tower gets reviewed.
In my opinion, such an analysis does not have to apologize for the length of this one, James and Gene It is rather a pleasure to read such a substantial work. James Larson is an expert in whom I will give my full confidence without any hesitation.
Looking great! I'm excited to get my 7.2.4 Arendal system going with the 1723 S Monitors for LCR!
I have 7.2.4 1723s set up.. Its lovely
Would the 8” version of this speaker have treble/midrange disadvantages due to larger drivers compared to the 6.5” driver?
It's funny looking at these speakers because in the early 1990s I designed a speaker with 4 6.5" Peerless woofers as a 2.5 way system and a D Appolito top part like these. I still have the catalog I printed up back then with all of my designs. I am revamping my line-up as we speak since being out of the business for a while. Time to re-imagine what speakers should be these days.
2.5 was pretty rare back then wasn`t it
@@hotdog9262 I guess they were but I think a few were around.
Just curious, why go 2.5, when 3 way seems just as easy to go ahead and do?
I'm just getting into this audiophile thing.
@@davidjudd951 3 ways are a bit more complicated in the crossover. A 2.5 way is a 2 way with a low pass on the other woofer(s). The 2.5 way is an easy way to get around the baffle step compensation as well, which usually ends up with higher output for a given amount of power.
@@analogkid4557 Makes sense. Thank you.
I tried running these full range for a while but I went back to sealed. They do sound really good full range but I prefer sealing them and crossing over to my subs. I think this goes back to the fact that the best place for bass is almost never the same spot as your L&R speakers. My subs are placed properly in my room and just do a much better job.
Where do you place your subs? I’ve heard of diagonal works well.
@@CptaiNPogo in my room and my setup, the best locations for both subs ended up being on the front wall out from the corners several feet. Every room will be different
Where did you cross these over with your subs? Are your subs sealed or ported?
@@stagmeyer I cross them at 80Hz. Subs are two Monolith 13's which are ported
@@hifihometheater Thanks for the reply!
Great review as always Gene & James. I almost went this route (towers & monitors) for my bed layer. I ended up with Premier 800f & 500b instead. What changed my mind was wider dispersion & the center channel design (wtmw vs mtm) of the Paradigms.
really the Arendal 1723 has 500 watts at 4ohms? that blows your premier's out of the water
@@adolphblackstone902 wattage really does not matter
Thank you for this review! I've been waiting for this one! Very informative. These towers have moved to the top of my list for my new 2 channel set up!
Really? Your impressed that they have a massive dip in compression at 85db and and up in the upper frequency range? Did you not watch the same video I did?
So how do these compare to the raal ascend sierra towers and the bmr philharmonic?
The monitors seem like the better buy. S model smaller room regular 1723 large room?
So many speakers in this price range, and you probably can't hear/audition most of them in your town, least I can't. I listened to kef, klipsch tannoy, linn, and finally based my choice on an amazing open box sale of Martin logan 60xti for 1300. They all sounded great and it's really a matter of taste.
Which did you go with?
@@raidergainzx5290 I still have the ml 60xt, the only ones that I consider a big upgrade would be the Kanta 2, but it really matters on what you like. The sonus faber have a following and they have their own sound. I would love to be somewhere In between like the two is ATC I do like those, but they don't have waf .
Based off your review and a few others, I decided to get a pair of the Arendal 1723 S Towers. They just got here today. As you know, these things were packaged amazingly well. The US military probably doesn't use this much care when transporting a nuke. I realize there's a 50 hour break in period, but these sound amazing right out of the box. Can't wait to see what they do later. The 1723 center channel arrives in a few days. Running them with a Marantz Cinema 50. There's a process to switch the amplifier impedance to 4 Ohm in the Marantz user manual, which I recommend everyone remember to do if you get these speakers. Thanks again guys.
How are they sounding with the Marantz?
@@davidjudd951 they sound great. Two SVS PB-3000’s as well. It’s a beast
@@happydogg312 yep, I found that out later too...
@@pnwdood1758 Audioholics prefer 8 Ohm setting, else you loose power.
I hesitate between these or the Buchardt s400 mk2. Can you suggest me what would work best for my Hegel H190?
Can’t decide between 1723 S tower and the Polk R700 for a dedicated 2-channel music listening setup. What are your opinions between the two?
Id go with the polks, check Andrew Robinsons review on Yt.
Andrew reviewed the 1691 not 1723 S. I am also very interested in how the R700 compare to the 1723 S. Jay says the 1723 towers (8" verison) out performed the R700 but they also are $1500 more. But he also says the KHL Kendell sounds better in the midrange and highs than the R700, he says the Kendell only falls short to the R700 in bass. He says the Kendell sound more highend/audiophile. He says the R700 to him is not quite there in the midrange and highs
Hate to throw in another thought but the new martin logan xt motion f100s are the one to get. I currently use my 15 year old polk lsi 15 speakers , 4 of them and the lsic center. I did update my prosessor the an anthem avm 60 a few years ago. I was ready to get the R700 but after the reviews on the motions for me they are the one. Especially the white. I can wait to save up for 4 of those and a center. Just played Gaucho in sacd surround and with my powersound 15 inch subs dialed in and running anthems arc, those old speakers sound pretty good. Some magnolia best buys might have the logans available to demo. Its a 5k speaker that sounds like a wilson or a high end b&w. For just a 2 channel, you might consider the logans.
I have a pair of the 1723 S Towers and I'm delighted with them. Watching this video tempted me to try them out and I'm glad I did.
I use with one port plugged and I have not noticed any lack of bass.
For example in bass dominant tracks such as Genesis: Dance on a Volcano and Squonk from Trick of the Tail the bass come thru' loud and clear. Detail seems better defined particularly on the "vibrato tone" on the bass during the above two tracks.
Hope this helps.
So you would recommend running these speakers as full range, or large?
Hi Gene/James, would the Arendal 1723 s thx towers , bookshelves, and center be a noticeable worth while upgrade over the Svs Ultra towers, center, and bookshelves? Really value your guys expertise opinions and reviews thank you
Having just finished watching the 3 part series on getting the best bass in a room. It would seem that the recommended crossover to the subs is usually no lower than 80Hz. Yet we see most systems have full range towers for the L&R.
Why would a full range speaker be recommended at all vs a speaker that was strong down into the 65Hz range?
Thanks for all the great info you have made available over the years.
the only reason for a tower is(a probable) higher db before compression and distortion
Considering the Arendal 1723 S pairing with Emotiva BasX A1 mono block. Would the Emotiva be enough to power the 1723’s?
I'm stuck upgrading my front 3 (currently run rtiA9 and legend L400) and I'm unsure if I should stick with the legend line or try out Arendal's 1723 thx line with their S surrounds
What's wrong with the L 400? I've heard it's great.
For a room sized about 16x18 feet, would you get these or the monitors? Or just go all the way and seal the sub ports of the big towers :P
Beginning to sparkle clarity definition, you need a good high current amp with low distortion and they sing. I’m using 500 and their wonderful wonderful.
Beautiful speakers but Im a bit concerned with how the Center channel sounds because of its MTM configuration ? I only have one center seat in my home theater so it might not be a concern.
I’d like to see a head to head with the Tekton double impacts and Adendal 1723s.
I'd like to see a comparison of the Double Impacts and anything else by a reputable reviewer. Seems like candid reviews or objective measurements of Tekton DI are a rare thing.
It says the competition is focal chora's. So if I own focal Aria towers and centre would I be wasting my time / money changing to these?
17:06 Crossover guy! LOL. I know who you guys are talking about. He really hates them sand-cast resistors. The feud between Crossover guy and Measurement guy seems to have ended last week with an apology from Crossover guy.
I really want a nice live stream between Danny the Crossover guy and Gene. Would be fun
@@audiotechguy This is what I've thought since the whole topic came up. I respect them both and think we all could learn something from them having a nice long chat about audio :)
Are these as good as focal kanta
Are the POLK R700 in the same class as the 1723 towers?
How would these compare with Polk r700 in terms of bass mods and high quality in general?!
Thanks for this. I currently have 2 Arendal 1V subs and thinking of which to upgrade to as I currently have Monitor Audio silver 8i first British series and still good but they are beasts and not sure if they would fit in my room. For amps i have Iotaavx17 and power amp and running 5.1.2 on this so not sure if it would be enough? Thanks
Yeah they look like a good make well built sensibly priced nice to see these days!
they work really well if you bi-amp them with a valve amplifier and that doesn't have to be expensive and the class D or class A B for the woofers you have a really great system
I'm on the fence I'm debating between The Arendal 1723 vs the JBL HDI-3800. I would love to hear the 1723 in person to be able to make a real comparison.
@@robertstokes7518 what did u go with? This is my present dilemma - thanks!
Is a center not required for either the monitor/Sub combo or Towers? Is the center over doing it with either setup?
Hi Gene. I'm also using these along with 3 SVS PB1000 Pros I believe you said to run these FULL RANGE? So instead of the usual 80HZ Xover I should set them at a lower value in the Anthem? I'm using the Anthem MRX740 but the fronts are powered externally using a McIntosh MA8900.
Which 1723 towers you recommend? I heard THX is really good and S version is really good. I want to buy the towers but I am stuck on which one to get
S version if your room is under 3,000 ft3. Towers if no subs and focused on 2CH, monitors if you have 2 really good subs.
@@Audioholics thank you
@@Audioholics I do want to get a sub and go atoms with these speakers but that will take time. For now, I will get 2 towers and center. Also, my place is under 3k ft so I will do the S version
@@Audioholics If listening 10-15db below reference, would you still choose the 8" version for 5000 ft3 room (but short 2.35m listening distance, it's open space)? Or will the 6.5" be enough then (and would they be better)?
What is "wrong" with the 8" for a
They really don't go for the deeper bass, which is quite odd
Gene and James, I’m on the fence and I gotta know what you guys think. Arendal 1723 Towers or Paradigm Founder 100f? You’ve had em both, I haven’t. Dedicated 20x15 theater, Parasound power, 70/30 music to video.
these are better made
I own both. I prefer the founders for music and arendal for movies. For both applications I’d chose the arendal. Both powered by parasound a51 and anthem avm90
@@jamespark1855 Audioholics says the Arendal are somewhat bright, do you find that to be the case?
@@Smellslikegelfling not at all. The founders are brighter to my ears. Then again all my speakers are calibrated and that maybe be part of it
@@Smellslikegelfling I've also heard a couple of reviewers mention that some may perceive them as bright. I have the 1723 Monitor and I haven't experienced any brightness myself. Medium sized room with no treatment but it's carpeted and has very large heavy furniture. I've heard speakers in the same room that sounded bright in the past. Svs ultra in particular was very hard sounding in all rooms I tried it in and unfortunately had to return them. Klipsch was a little bright in here also. I'd say try the Arendal as it's a very low risk demo.
I've got prime pinnacles and dual sb 2000 pros, but if the day ever comes when I got nothing better to spend my money on I wanna up them to the equivalent arendal setup.
How do these compare to the JBL HDI -3800?
how would they compare to bmr philharmonitor towers? these seem better except for people that demand ribbon tweeters
Just picked up the 1723thx about a week ago
The one thing I dislike about the Arendal is the grilles, they honeycomb pattern shows in your measurements. I prefer a fine cloth grille.
If you're reviewing $3,000 speakers, can you please do the Tekton Double Impact?
Great suggestion.
Great no BS review as always going way back !
I saw on the web site you were planning to review the Monitor Silver 500 7G.
My list is either that or these Arendal tower S speakers.
Will the Silver 500 review happen ?
Thanks
That little brightness leaves me a bit hesitant to buy these, Erin also measured that. Otherwise it would be a no brainer Revel alternative
Just EQ them, not really an issue.
Revel are extremely neutral and laid back sounding with lean bass. I have to EQ my F328Be in order to find them pleasing. Food for thought.
I'm in the exact same boat. My room is not ideal...but I have to live with it. I have a pair of 803 Nautilus right now. And although they are good speakers. The are just too bright/forward for me, but I also know my room plays a big part in in. I've eq-ed it a bit..but I know there's better stuff for less money. This or the Polks are on the top of my list to try out. But I'm extremely sensitive to bright tweeters.
. Did u resolve your situation? I am the same. Cheers!
After seing your review I am considering changing my more expensive Dynaudio Contour 30 for Arendal 1723...
Dynaudio looks kind of cheap comparing to those...
I'm really curious to try this speakers at my place.
Who pays for return shipping?
Gene needs to add batteries to the cable interconnects within his computer. 🙂 JK. Great video for a great speaker. Thank you both.
I'll take the Tekton Double Impacts with the beryllium tweeters.
Kef Q950 or Arendal sound 1723 Towers S??
I've heard the 1723 compares favourably to the KEF R series, although I have not personally heard these as they don't use dealers. I am looking to upgrade from KEF Q Series to these speakers potentially.
Please for 50/50 HT hifi
This or focal aria 946 system
From what I have heard, looks like a Marantz SR6015 can drive these just fine.
Those speakers looks really good for the money, what kind of output are those speakers cabable of, if i would not run b&w 702 s2, i would try those, i discovered Arendal just recently, 1723 1s is pared with my b&w speakers and i can only say good things about it, looks very solid very well built, i really trumps my old b&w asw610 in every way not just in terms of output, also much better in sq, and settnings you can do with the app
Selling the 702 and going for these will get u a better experience overall. The 702 can be wery boring speaker ans spec if the recording is just ok
@@chriss881000 yes they look impressive but i will stick with my 702 s2, they are really impressive with sq in my opinion but kind of bad with poor recordings i never find them boring through they give me goosebumps plenty of times too but the Arendal sub is must in my opinion to get the full experince
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Is THX still a useful certification now that it's been bought and sold and sold and bought? I know good speakers don't need to be tested and certified to THX, but it used to be that if the speaker was THX certified, it was some good stuff.
Good luck grabbing the regular 1719THX with those white gloves. LOL.
Great review. I would definitely be interested in a review of the 1723 1S and 2S subwoofers
Me too i have 1723 1s my self
I love subs of theirs but i think theres better option for speakers like Dali Oberon 9 Opticon 8 mk2 and so on.
I doubt those dali are better to be honest
Totally different kind of speaker. Arendals are very neutral.
But for the money, you can't go wrong.
Crossover guy......LMAOOOOO!! Love the going into a whisper.
Larson is tha man!!
Heys guys I listen to a lot of ROCK & Blues music what would u recommend for towers (6k Budget) that just overall kill it? I'm running Anthem STR components with 2 Velodyne SPL1000 subs. Thanks!
Paradigm Founder 100F is very good. Revel Performa3 F208 ought to be considered. JBL HDI-3800 is a good one. The Arendal 1723 THX Tower is killer as well.
@@jameslarson2277 hi James, I have a question that I hope you can answer here since I'm not a forum member. I just bought a pair of Polk R700 for $825 each, a steal in my opinion. I got them set up and calibrated and they sound terrific. I can only imagine it will be even better once I have the L400 center and upgrade my sub to duals. My question is, would I be better served by Arendal 1723 S towers or 1723 THX monitors? I have a fairly large room but usually watch movies at a moderate level so I'm not sure if I would benefit from the extra output. For the price of the Polks I feel like I'm getting more value considering I can get a full LCR for less than the Arendal towers alone. I'd audition them at home but that's a lot of cash to pay out even if it gets refunded. Plus I'm pretty sure the Polk center channel is superior. Thanks for your thoughts.
Even a Emotiva BasX A3 with 140w/cha should help these and that is $550
The price is low, Becasue sold direct, if you got them at a store they would be around 6K +
these or the polk r700s
😅😅what a discussion. 6.5" or 8". Cheap peerless Chassis for 50$,65$. 4000$/€ pair now. Made in china. A good Marge for arendal. 😅😅
It's ok to need help putting a 70lb speaker on a raised platform, regardless of the condition or finish. Don't let meat heads pressure you into justifying. lol
They just look so meh(!) If they had different options on grill colours or the white options could have white drivers etc people like me who care would be much more likely to buy them 😅
For many people speakers are in a central part of the home and viewed throughout the day especially if you work from home..
I'm probably going to dabble in making DIY speaker grills before considering buying these.. ✌️
is it just me or does it seem unusually off-putting to hear a god-awful sound clip as the introduction to the show i am hoping to learn from in the areas of sound and music? i love the content you put out, please stop punishing me with that dub track every time I tune in 😅
The stereo business is just a hobby for rich people who want what no one else can afford. Good for the EGO
1723 S are not the biggest ones. 1723S 3K +Tax a pair direct, if you where to buy them retail, which they do not do. They probably would be in the 5K + range and the 1723 THX in the 7K to 8K range. 1723 THX is their biggest tower and best sounding.
They just look so meh(!) If they had different options on grill colours or the white options could have white drivers etc people like me who care would be much more likely to buy them 😅
For many people speakers are in a central part of the home and viewed throughout the day especially if you work from home..
I'm probably going to dabble in making DIY speaker grills before considering buying these.. ✌️