One Year Update - OLED Burn-in Test - RTINGS.com
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
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In this video, we will go over the results so far from our two ongoing burn-in tests.
Our current stance is that if you vary your content and don’t display static areas then you’re unlikely to experience any issues. If you do plan to watch a lot of static content with bright, saturated colors, then an OLED TV probably isn’t for you. There has been no appreciable change to the brightness or color gamut of these OLED TVs which is great.
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3:46 I think that figure burned into the screen is actually the soul of the TV trying to escape after being subjected to nonstop cable news for so long.
Like that horror movie The Ring ?
lmao
These panels do use organic materials, so wouldn't surprise me haha.
ahhaahah oh my God, you should go be a comedian if you're not already yet.
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I cannot express enough how thankful I am for channels like Rtings that honestly review consumer products to better inform the buyer. THANK YOU.
Yeah dude, too many youtubers in niches these days get paid to promote things. I was looking for bedding recently and my GOD that industry is corrupt. All the youtube channels and websites that review bedding are paid by, and sometimes are OWNED by, big bedding companies
oled is great,i never go back to normal lcd,but i dont watch cable . the lcds with local dimming are also great,but people coplain about blooming for no reason
It's because of people like you guys that big companies are forced to improve their shitty quality. Thank you so much for what you do!
Maybe some shitty quality, but also the newest state of the art tech that will most definitely have drawbacks in it's infancy. Most every benefit has a drawback associated. It's just a matter of mitigating those drawbacks.
4:50 "and have been running them for 20 hours continuously each day, which doesn't correspond to anybody's normal usage" oh I, umm, absolutely agree.
Gotta love normal people and their mundane usage patterns, ey? :))
Yep, probably 4 years worth per year.
I don't want the Brazzers logo burnt into my tv...
Karel Carbonneau Montpellier 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😉😏🤭🤫
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I do.
The most hilarious and unique comment 😂😂😂. You deserve a medal 🤗.
Lmfaoooo
You gentlemen really do go above and beyond. I salute you kind sirs!
So what's the the answer
curious if they went to 2 years
Brad Haines they have further updates on their website if you just google oled burn-in test rtings.
This is why I love you guys and share your work with everyone I know when they are looking for new tv's or monitors. Thanks a bunch
Great job, guys! So generally trying to avoid any live news will help both your OLED TV as well as you mental health 😎A win-win situation
No news is the best news. I figure of something important happen someone will tell me about anyway. I did not even know about 9/11 until the evening. It was probably for the best then as well.
@@toriless That's kind of stupid in this situation though, I want to watch what I want to watch on my expensive $1K+ display.
@@transfo47 Then don't get an OLED. It is clearly obvious if you actually watched the video that watching the news only caused burn in when watching extreme amount of hours consecutively. I would bet 99% of people do not watch CNN for 5000 hours a year.
@@jaketapper8910 Exactly, don't get an OLED if you have those viewing habits.
@@transfo47 yeah, if you want you mistook stories watch the news. Most reporters are so dumb the do not even know if a phage is a bacteria or virus nor the difference between any of them.
wtf man you guyz did it for 1 years??? hats off!!
#respect
Well In the end they just turned on the TVs and never turned them back off for a year without looking at them lol
Respect for what? Turning a tv on?
@@ToldYouSo18 that's not it, it's the dedication of going through this that's impressive
@@yab3146 sorry.. not so much..
@@ToldYouSo18 yeah that's why this isn't the only 1 year burn in test on yt.. oh wait, it is -_-
What a great content, what a dedication! Content aside, I just noticed chapters, a feature that was absent when video was uploaded. This shows how much this channel creators care about quality. Instant subscribe.
Really appreciate this top-notch work. You approach these tests with good rigor, and I appreciate when you plainly state the limitations of the conclusions you can draw with your tests (as with the 100 TV longevity test).
We need to see the results again for burn-in since it's been 2 years from those tests.
pointless, oled screens are already damaged to much
Would love to see that
@@gatygun not mine. Have had for 3 years and 8,000 hours no burn in or noticeable downgrade in picture quality
@@sharebear421 how many hours a day do you use it? And what do you use it for .. gaming? Cable tv? Streaming apps? All of them?
Thanks for taking the time to make this, your efforts are greatly appreciated!.
You guys are doing amazing work. well done!
UPDATE REGARDING A NEW TEST:
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should I buy C2??? can't decide!!! I watch anime+subtitle + gaming
@@Wanted1Sama i think it would be alright for 3-5 years
You guys do good work. You are the most credible source of reviews online, keep it up!
Thanks for the kind words!
A huge huge THANK YOU GUYS!!! You are doing an amazing and very informative work! It helps us customer a lot to see your reviews and get in this technical world. Keep going
The person shape is actually OLED jesus, burned for our sins
Jesus has been crusefid not burned!
bro wtf oled jesus haha Im dead
Made my day
@@MrStatusqwo5 that's in reference to the holy shroud
Someone give this guy a Nobel prize 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤘🤘🤘🤣🤣👌👌
This is what has always worried me about OLED panels. It's obvious they are better sets in terms of picture but the TV's in general seem to have a shorter lifespan. If I find a great TV I tend to stick with it until a jump in technology or an upgrade is needed, so OLED has always worried me because of burn in since I keep my TV's for a while.
I would love to see this done again with newer panels that have burn in prevention software built in to see whether or not it works.
These videos are great and super informational.
Exactly this....Do you know of reputable RUclips channels that have done it?
If it works, why wouldn't burn in protection be included in their warranty?
@@kenny-tu2bu Because I would assume that there’s a caveat to using it. Hence why i’d like a video made.
@@kenny-tu2bu that’s why I buy from Best Buy they have the burn in protection included
@@kenny-tu2bu alienware have some
Him: "We've got limited resources"
Me: **silently gestures at the 9 TVs they spent a year destroying just to make one video**
At least he is doing something to help other people. Have you ever watched “will it blend”?
Its because usually in research it is not favorable to just take 1 sample of a kind. It would be more accurate with 50 tvs of the same kind
yeah... totally... we can't be mad.. they've already gone above and beyond to give us these results... :)
limited doesn't necessary means LOW.
@@Remy.- Great idea. I await your test results!
Wow! These tests must have been expensive $$$. You guys are really serious about reviewing televisions. You really helped me make up my mind. I'm not getting an OLED.
Impressive work and attention to detail. Your channel is fast becoming the go to source for product and technology reviews. Well done.
Would love to see this with current technology. Great channel guys!!
Please keep these units running into the future for continued analysis! After YEARS of use I'd love to see you directly compare them to the same unused models, and not in regards to specific burn in spots, but rather their overall loss of brightness and function. If burn-in is really just a result of pixels losing their mojo by being on too long and bright in certain areas at one time, then doesn't that mean ALL diodes lose their juice over time?? If so, you'd conclude that all OLED tvs degrade over time uniformly (minus the user 'errors' of specific burn in), and basically your tv is downgrading itself from its original state from which you bought it?
I like how this guy wasn’t concerned with shaving or combing his hair. It shows an unwavering dedication to OLED burn testing, and absolutely nothing else.
Wow there aren't a lot of channels that are so dedicated in testing . Great video! Thanks a lot ! ^^
I reached out to LG- and they replaced my OLED C8 panel free of charge... one time... my OLED was out of warranty so I salute LG for this replacement. Thanks
Good for you...they told me to pound sand after 3mos. CS sucks at Less Good.
Our LG burned right away and the local electronics shop was no help.
@@bohofoto6929 was it within warranty - because all you have to do is take pictures email the burn in and as long as it’s screen image burn in they can help
(LG Customer service) was excellent for me.
I have an LG OLED C7 and I always go to settings and then Screen Off when I am away just to avoid burns when I am playing games. Also I play games with the HUD off. My t.v. still amazes me and I take care of it like a child. Thank you LG for making me take care of my t.v. I wish the Screen Off be conveniently placed as a button on the remote. 👍
Lots of games you surely need the HUD though?
The C1 has an automatic screen saver.
Hats off to you guys, someone had to do the test
You guys are hands down the best. Thanks for this!!
No, you're the best! Thanks for watching :)
Wow for lack of better words, awesome work thank-you
reminds me of my dads old projection TV (remember those huge boxes?) had the Weather Channel bars burnt into the screen!
Cool video! Thankyou for taking the time to make this :)
Nice work dude... These kinds of reviews we actually want
You did a great job. Still relevant in 2021
*How much were your electric bill in 2018* ?
Tv's use way less power now.
Imagine if they were plasma tvs...
@@gabrieleorioli1760 Yup plasmas are very good but they get warm and use good amount of electricity.
OLED TVs is the most energy efficient TVs, so no worries about the electricity bill.
@@tacoengineer6660 oled tv has very similar advantage with plasma TV. Real black, wide colour space. I doubt that plasma is not even comparable with modern LCD with local dimming
My girlfriend prefers having subtitles on pretty much everything we watch. This video was informative in steering me away from OLED. Thanks!
set subtitles to a color that has no red in it, maybe make a bit dimmer
@@AlexanderBukh bit of a rude thing to say about his girlfriend
@@yamabushi170 she is irrelevant in the question here. that was a tv related suggestion
@@AlexanderBukh yeah I know, I was making a silly joke :)
@@yamabushi170 f her and u 😂
WOW!! Thank you so much for the time and effort!
Thanks for the comprehensive deep dive tests. I found you guys through a link from Linus and I'll definitely be subscribing
You guys are doing god's work. thank you!
I would love to see this test re-run with the panels from the last couple of years including EVO, QD and standard OLEDs.
This is something we've been discussing internally for quite some time. While we'd absolutely love to do this, it takes up a huge amount of time and resources. So, if we do run this sort of testing again, we want to make sure were doing it the right way and providing value to users. All this to say, even though we don't have any current plans to do this, we'll continue to keep it in mind for future consideration!
Great content. And, Daniel, your speaking has greatly improved since then :)
Thank you 1,000 times. This was comprehensive and scientific. My $300 LG 65" that I bought 10 months ago has turns of permanent burn in and in general brightness and resolution are failing. I think I got a bad luck situation as you mentioned since up until about a month ago, I had none of these problems and never leave a static image on my screen for more than 20 minutes at time (when used as a pc monitor and even this is rare).
My 2012 plasma has no burn-in. It all depends on how you use it.
@@toriless of course, if that plasma was always off then there's no burn in
Like many, I'm here from LTT. This is amazing work, Thank You!
Gentlemen, I am thoroughly impressed by this longterm test and results. I have also informed a family memeber of your employment opportunity. I am hoping she will contact you. Congratulations on conducting such a test. I would say this is almost a research study :). I love it!
I really appreciate you guys. Keep up the good work.
Apparently, you don't have a wife who dozes off while browsing through a TV listing schedule.
Good information. I bought an LG 65 inch C8 almost a year ago, and it's still going strong. Totally satisfied. I don't bother with CNN though.
You guys doing awesome job, very thorough!
Still one of the best if not THE best coverage of OLED burn in.
Linus sent me here to watch his OLED assertions for PC use be totally shown up.
Hi, I have an LG55C7V, I’ve never had burn in due to content watched, but I have had an issue where bright sunlight on the screen has caused a burnt in image of plants from outside.
The black spots on LED could be a result of micro dust that collects between panel layers due to constant air convection there. Usually it appear as darkened lower left/right corners though. In many cases it can be cleaned if that is the case. Or alternatively it could be light-reflecting layer deforming under constant heat. Still a reminder that LCD are not perfect either
Very interesting to see the test results of burn-in so far.
Great video! I'm actually looking into getting a 77" LG C1 to replace a 2016 LG. Ironically, it's actually the same LG @ 5:40, the UJ6300 with the same LED failure with them turning blue.
I find the burn in related to subtitles most problematic.
Have you experienced burn in due to subtitles?
I always watch subtitled movies! Do you guys have problems of burn in because this??
For Netflix and Prime you can set more options for Subtitle style via the webpage user profile settings rather than just the in-TV app (wait a bit & restart the tv app to pick up the changes). I was originally trying to solve that the white subtitles were waaaay to bright and distracting in dark scenes but I think I’ve totally solved the burn in issue too. I added the black box surround to the text which normally annoyingly blocks too much of the scene but here is the trick; Set the *opacity* for both the text and the surround to low. Now the subtitles will be much more subtle yet very readable because of the contrast between surround and text. They don’t interfere much with the scene because they’re semi transparent. Burn in should be almost eliminated because the saturation is low due to the subs now being ‘blended’ with the scene by the transparency.
Aexoero V see my reply above, problem solved!
@@FearTheTaswegian thanks, good info! Problem is that i watch subtitled movies from other sources too and my media player doesn't let me adjust the subs too much except the position and size! What about movies with letterbox? Is letterbox a problem for OLED TV's?
I own monitor with LG IPS panel from ~2011 and it also has darkened areas. It was barely visible when I bought it, but after ~6 years it became much more pronounced.
Wow this is awesome test. You guys are very dedicated. Subscribed.
Really looking to upgrade my old school flat screen with the LG CX. What are your thoughts on the burn-in potential? Seems to be a hot topic regarding the LG OLEDs.
Did you carry on this test after 2 years? It would be great to see those results!
B7 3+ years of gaming and no burn-in on color slides. Very happy with this tv
I just bought the C1. I didn't really think much of burn in until I started seeing damaged OLEDs. Can you let me know what games you play and if they have static HUDS that are always on the screen? I'm going to use mine for gaming almost exlusively. May watch some sports too. I'm a little worried now after spending 2k on this thing and mounting it lol
If you plan to play alot I wouldnt use an Oled. Im using a c7 and burn in started after 2,5years and degraded rather quickly. From slight burn in to highly visible (health bars, group member bars, chat box etc). I have been playing pretty much the same game for about 10000h over a 4year period and the TV is now going in the bin.
If you play different games on a casual scale you will probably be fine, but why risk it?
2500£ for a TV that lasted 4years. Not my best purchase.
@@vinjackps5892 which game did you put 10000h on
@@jonallender6959 Elder Scrolls Online
@@vinjackps5892 Well I am sorry for your experience, but your use case isn’t for oled. I play different games, the longest of which I played for 300-400 hours and I have no burn in. If you plan to play the same game, which has a static hud for thousand of hours you better go with a LED tv. :)
Have you tested with any of the TV's burn reduction features enabled?
Great video as alway’s, I suffered really bad screen burn on my LG Oled after 11 months. Faulty technology, what is reasonable usage???
Interesting information I hope you guys do a similar test on the 2019 TVs as well to see if the issue has been fixed.
Spoiler alert, it hasn't. OLED and burn in are inseperable. Never gonna eliminate it.
Oled are extremly inferior due to the burnin and lackofbrightness.
@@ruben7937 lack of brightness? Bro my Oled is plenty bright if it goes any higher i’ll go blind
@@craziigaming9202 I have mine set down at 24%, you just have to adjust a few other settings and it is fine.
That extra bit of picture quality ain't worth all this stress. No thanks. Hats off for the hard work!
It’s not a bit it’s a ton of quality
@@pepchristian I concur, Once you use a 2020 model oled compared to a cheap 4K tv ... absolutely no competition.
it impossible for most people to get burn in. who tf playes the same shit for 400 hours?
I like the hand gesture when he says hi
Great and extremely useful test. Thanks a lot.
why dont you test oled for pc display monitor? that would be very interesting.
I can't imagine spending $2k plus on a TV and then experiencing burn in.. unless you had another $2k laying around for a new tv.
@Bryce Czirr Imagine liking and watching CNN.
@Bryce Czirr you don’t have to watch the same thing for 24 hours a day for a year to experience burn in genius.
@@JTCPingas well said.
It is the time of CIVID-19 and a lot of people are watching the current development. So do OLED TV owners have to buy newspapers and be afraid to turn on their TV? Who is the genius here?
@@mirekandelpraha3916 you still watch linear television? What year is it!
Such a Great Video!
Thanks a lot for making it :)
Thanks for watching it :)
Amazing effort
thanks a lot for your hard work
I see alot of sport bars been interested in your results. Good gj and cool topic
I experienced burn in on my LG OLED C7 after 2 years of use, I was very aware of the possibility of burn in and did attempt to avoid any static images however from regular watching of youtube I have mild burning in of multiple small logo's which is very annoying. If you are purchasing an OLED please make sure you get the extra warranty. To be fair, before the burn-in occured the image quality was fucking sensational.
I want to buy CX, but not for only 2 years...
Montażownia nr1 idk what to buy now
Montażownia nr1 I might go with 900h
@@montazownianr1 Yeah. TV's are not phones. You keep them for 5+ years. Unless you're rich, OLED doesnt seem to be worth it
@@prosperitynuggets I mean, a Flagship phone costs as much as an Oled tv, and as the test showed, Burn in risk is much lower now than what many people fear.
Thanks for the information. You guys rock!
You rock! Thanks for watching :)
Thanks this video answered all my questions good job
No matter what the situation is, regular use of any tv should not make it useless within a year.
Yeah, my current TV is 26 years old and cost around £2000 when it was new, thats the sort of life I want from a TV that costs as much as car, anything less than 5 years is insane. I'll probably just have to wait for Micro LED for that longer life span though.
@@VeyronBD that's why I won't pick the B8 oled for €960, but will go for xf900 for €1000. Q8dn costs the same but I prefer Sonys upscaling, motion options and more natural colors.
Yes and normal usage of OLED does not make it useless within a year. If you think watching CNN for 20 hrs/day is normal usage then IDK what to tell you.
I'd just rather not be paranoid of burning the screen on my super expensive tv all the time tbh.
@@VeyronBD I understand but coming from a plasma TV for 8 years the transition was pretty streamline. I spent this summer reselling clearance TVs many of which were the displays and I would try them out for a week to make sure they worked. It was hilarious to see my 8 year old 1080p plasma destroying LCDs left and right. Eventually I got a 65" C8 OLED for $700 and decided to keep it instead of reselling.
Are the TVs actually still up and running? I wonder how they look after 2 years.
the tv are burned after 3500h
Rtings had The tvs on for 20 hours a day for a whole year. That is 7300 hours already. With average use of average 3 hours a day that would give you 6+ years.
Wow u guys put in a lot of effort here thanks
how do I get these test colors opened on the LG CX? Thank you very much
I hope MicroLED developement will finish soon... hate to fear Burn-In
stick with crt tv meanwhile
You'll be waiting a while.
Don't LEDs suffer over time as well, as shown by the extreme example with the three screens side by side (two LEDs one OLED)? The OLED screen looked much better than the one with the clouding backlight.
I hope your wallet is extremely heavy, because so will be the bill when you shop for it within the first 2 years of commercial release.
I think what this video shows is you have to be watching the same content for 5hrs straight for a year and really has to be something like a static logo to burn in. With normal varied use patterns it really shouldn't be a problem.
Imagine seeing the test for these tvs and seeing burn in on your screen lol
Great research we all needed to know.
Great information. Thank you very much.
Should've tested CP24 as well. It's on 24/7 at many offices, restaurants, etc. It's probably the most watched at home too.
rarely see businesses buy OLED tvs, they usually go with LED
what is cp24
I can't imagine how much this video has cost to make.
The hardware, the work, the electricity, the data collection and analysis, the presentation...
I hope it paid off.
This was really helpful. we watch with subtitles all the time and I did not consider that this could cause burn in
If you use them on youtube subtitle burn-in can be an issue, some playback devices shift then around.
This is why I love rtings there the best and they get to the point
Congratulations, great job! I would just like to see the addition of OLEDs used as computer monitors, as televisions are increasingly used for this function every day. Thanks a lot.
Lower the brightness users at over 60% have reported burn-in. Do not go over 40% I find the difference between 24% and 36% to be nothing with a slight tweak of the other settings.
OLED is amazing but I might have to go with a decent VA with local dimming until burn in gets improved, I want to use it with alot of static sites and PC UI etc. The deep blacks and Contrast Ratio is tempting I know
What did you get?
@@rhumash5977 A gaming monitor with good color accuracy, I wanted to get the Sony HX95 but shipping in my country has been sus so I didn't want to risk unnecessary long wait times. still holding out for a TV as monitor, but I'm not really excited for it at the moment. Are you looking for a display?
@@ItsAkile Bro I have the X900H and yes its a fantastic tv man. The blacks are inky black and the contrast and brightness is fasntastic.
Yep, avoid OLED for PC use.
Mini LED sets help with some led set issues including deeper blacks.
Valuable feedback. Thanks. Wish u good.
Curious if the TV's were calibrated or factory settings when doing the test bench 🤔🤔
I was hopefull till the part of the subtitles, I watch series and films mostly, so they have subs, and seeing this, I know it will have burn ins..
I pretty sure that the subtitles he was talking about is *closed captions* (always have a hard dark background behind then), not subtitles from movies, who varies in length and location.
@@renatocron I don't know. My plasma tv has burn in issues with regular subtitles after a while. Which sucks because like you said they vary in size and placement but it's not enough. Oleds aren't as bad as plasma of course, but I can still bet it would happen over time.
3:49 WOW this is scary though
What a very enthusiastic chap :)
I just got a 48” C1. I go back and forth between 21:9 and 16:9. Also play some games in each of the ratios. With that being said I bought some insurance but I also done mine upgrading next time around if the tech gets better.
Just too scary to spend this kind of money and have any risk on burn-in, no matter how small the chance.
These were old c7s. In newer models like cx or c11 you'd have to try very hard to get burn in. Lg has got very good in preventing burn in.
@@dominikkuzila A friend of mine has the CX and the GTA 5 map has been burned in of the left corner of the screen...
@@ThatAwesomeUsername He should have got a QLED or something else if he just plays gta all day. That's the same as if he was watching CNN nonstop.
“If you are unlucky then you may experience an early failure” ....kinda like life.
Thank you I appreciated this video.
I really appreciate your help. Very informative