32-34 years ago, had a 14turn double in mine, the car was fully ball raced also had those tires, but from the frog, and the sand tires from the grasshopper, as well as the Grass Hopper body but I also ran taller wheels than those and a custom made 8.4volt panasonic 7 cell SCR pack. I Changed the front diff pickup point to the original grasshopper solid adaptors, to replace the Hornet spring loaded adaptors. It's the two screws each side that locate the differtial to the chassis. Mine also had resoviour oil fill shocks on the rear. I ran the stock 3 speed controller, but with a battery eliminator. I also used the Grass Hopper battery plate. I also had a total of three different gear ratios. At one point in time I also had the Roadrunner body on mine. Have a Hornet now, but it's totally stock.
When I see you grasshopper, it brings me back to the first hobby r/c car that got me into the buggies..the tamyia fox. I went on to race a losi JRX-2 pro at our local track. Fun times! Back into the hobby now and got into crawlers. My gen 8 is in the mail and anxious to get it. Stay safe and thx for all the wicked informative info bro! Always entertaining to watch your vids! Look forward to more gen 8 vids and keep the greasy side down brother!✌
Am i missing somthing? My tamiya subaru brat does 20 miles an hour on a 6c nimh with stock silver can mabuchi 540. 23 miles an hour isn't exactly a rocket lol( or noticable). Good looking hornet though!
Hi it did 23.8mph on the 6 cell nimh almost 24mph most all those stock silver can tamiyas run like 18- 20mph tops and to get almost 4mph more you need a much faster motor. Thanks for watching.
it's possibly also slightly faster with them wheels on as i'm sure they look a fraction bigger than hornet's own wheels so bigger wheel will give higher top speed
Hi that's the nature of this chassis it's a faulty design best you can do is do the fishing string mod I show on my channel to help it out a little bit... for on road probably slicks will be best I think you can find some on e-bay that fit the hornet wheels. Thanks for watching.
at 11:48 side view of front pogo sticks... if'n you remember, I said put on road pan car front springs to the topside of those towers.. or cut pen springs at 5/16" and flatten both new ends (edit: on each) so they're both a little less than 1/4" long. it'll help stabilize a Hornet/Hopper more than you might think. the stock rear springs in the rear pod hangers are a pain and often omitted but its definitely better with them in there and twisted open some to be a little stronger pressing the pivot pin down. they're supposed to do what the fishing line does but right at those rear slotted hangers left+right independently. if they're long gone make a pair from .020 music wire... if you got the good old hangers that were molded to have the springs in there. .020 will be a little stiffer than the stock were.
@@ShenRC how Hornets bump steer with front suspension movement up+down, those little springs on top will put it straight much quicker, and when the rear is lifting the front they're not flopping loose to let the wheels turn a little. kinda similar with the rear springs at the slot pivots, more stable sprung down with a little more force at the ends of that long pin, it keeps it in the round bottom of the slot more often so the pod toggles left+right a lot less. you can also make the new rear pivot springs from a couple medium safety pins works, a little stronger than the stock springs back there. edit: really, try this stuff! I'm remembering my over powered Hornet days here (from 35 years ago!)
very minor differences, 380 vs 540 motor and Hornet are looser rear pod hangers is pretty much all. I think a GH with a newer 390 motor would be pretty happy with a smaller+lighter 2200mah LiPo juicing it.
@@nateg4513 been forever ago mid late 80's and Hornet class racing. had to be a Hornet and had to be a stock motor, 27 turn 20 degree brush timing and bushings (motor). you could do little mods to the suspension and use any car body you liked, it just had to be a Hornet and 6 cell NiCad. VW bug body was a big advantage.
$11.63 shipping included isn't bad for a hot can motor, no replaceable brushes but 17-18 turns with fresh magnets is gonna run strong for quite a while.
What speed is recommended for this car? at 22 mph is the differential or ring gear likely to wear? I don't think it's good to run it at 25 mph... Greetings! (between this and the kyosho axxe) which one do you stay for and why? 
Hi as long as you use a steel pinion with the hornet it can handle modern brushless motors but it don't have a great suspension so a brushed 21T motor is good for it. the axxe I had it and it does drive better than a hornet but dirt always gets inside the gears and messes up the pinion gear and spur gear so I don't like it at all. Thanks for watching.
It was crazy fast for this buggy, I was shocked it did not even break at all, Just popped out of the track that hold the rear on the chassis. Thanks for watching 👍
Nice one, Steve - that motor sure spins up well for a cheap silver can! "^ is good in anyone's books! Too bad about the crash, but thankfully it looks like an easy fix! All the best my friend! :))
Yes the motor went a lot faster than I ever though it would! Nothing broken just popped that swing axle out she's good to go already! Thanks Mark Thanks for watching 👍
Neat Speed test with a bonus durability test too... Jokingly said...That Tamiya was Buzzing around with all that Wltoys Power 😎👍👍 HFLPRCing 🌟 RCFAM4LIFE 🙏 Stay Safe and Play Healthy Brother Steve
Rob I never thought it would go this fast with the wltoys motor! I got lucky nothing broke the rear just popped out of the track. Thanks for watching 👍
my Great Karnac hat is working pretty good! near 24 on NiMh and 26.3 LiPo. weird how that rear pod kicked loose but one side up one side down with stress can do it like that, check the tub where those hangers plug in might be a little crack to throw some CA into isn't anything "bad" really. (previous video I called the speed haha)
@@ShenRC we used a cheap surpass motor. It's rebuildable and a similar price. I didn't want to hijack your comments with a link to the video but feel free to have a look at the video on our channel. Keep up the good work.
I guess thinking about using a Traxxas 12T motor is out of the question for mine. 🤣 Looks like Banggood doesn't sell that specific motor anymore, but they have ample other options.
Well, thank you for providing helpful videos to the masses. Yeah, I'll stick with a cheap brushed combo for mine as the front end is quite weak anyways.
Uhh, axle hopped out? Well, good one. I liked the walk (watching it indoors in the warmth). No idea what 26 mph is but definitely faster than the typical 30 kph a Hopper 540 goes.
These Chinese brands nearly always give you a much beefier motor than Tamiya do in the box and they cost a lot less than a Sport tuned too! Whenever I need a cheap brushed motor with some pep, I always turn to spares for Chinese vehicles. Cheap + fast 540s are in abundance and there's plenty of 390s too which make perfect upgrades to the Tamiya 380 motors if you want something a bit quicker but don't want the full 540. The lower weight of a 390 means less unsprung mass vs a 540 too. Good for buggies with heavy unsprung axles like the Grasshopper and Hornet etc.
32-34 years ago, had a 14turn double in mine, the car was fully ball raced also had those tires, but from the frog, and the sand tires from the grasshopper, as well as the Grass Hopper body but I also ran taller wheels than those and a custom made 8.4volt panasonic 7 cell SCR pack. I Changed the front diff pickup point to the original grasshopper solid adaptors, to replace the Hornet spring loaded adaptors. It's the two screws each side that locate the differtial to the chassis. Mine also had resoviour oil fill shocks on the rear. I ran the stock 3 speed controller, but with a battery eliminator. I also used the Grass Hopper battery plate. I also had a total of three different gear ratios.
At one point in time I also had the Roadrunner body on mine. Have a Hornet now, but it's totally stock.
Cool fun to hear about it! Thanks for watching.
When I see you grasshopper, it brings me back to the first hobby r/c car that got me into the buggies..the tamyia fox. I went on to race a losi JRX-2 pro at our local track. Fun times! Back into the hobby now and got into crawlers. My gen 8 is in the mail and anxious to get it. Stay safe and thx for all the wicked informative info bro! Always entertaining to watch your vids! Look forward to more gen 8 vids and keep the greasy side down brother!✌
STILL got my original Fox, has an old ProLine baja bug body on it oh well.
such a great little driver, it has its fragility factor too of course.
Nice! I had XXT losi RC's back in the day they were good cars. Thanks for watching 👍
It was “ Squirrley” because of that hunk of plastic you had taped to the front..
Yeah that did throw it off but still without it on it was just to much for this thing for my liking. Thanks for watching.
Hi, do you know what the rpm rating is on the WL motor?
was just over 24.000 Rpm
@@ShenRC thanks!
Old buggy have to run in dust for fun
But the sooner, the more careful you should be ;-D
yea I think I need the radiolink with the gyro in this one for sure now! Thanks for watching 👍
Is there any good upgrades for the hornet to make the top speed go higher?, please let me know
Hi if your using the stock kit esc just throw in a cheap RC4WD.com 20 turn crawler motor it will give you a bit more top speed. for like $11 bucks.
@@ShenRC OK thanks
Am i missing somthing? My tamiya subaru brat does 20 miles an hour on a 6c nimh with stock silver can mabuchi 540. 23 miles an hour isn't exactly a rocket lol( or noticable). Good looking hornet though!
Hi it did 23.8mph on the 6 cell nimh almost 24mph most all those stock silver can tamiyas run like 18- 20mph tops and to get almost 4mph more you need a much faster motor. Thanks for watching.
Wow good results Steve!
Thank you! Cheers!
it's possibly also slightly faster with them wheels on as i'm sure they look a fraction bigger than hornet's own wheels so bigger wheel will give higher top speed
I am not sure if they are even larger OD but yea a larger tire will give you a faster top end speed. Thanks for looking.
My Hornet skips around on pavement to much to drive straight. Will replacing the rear knobby tires be enough to help? Thanks.
Hi that's the nature of this chassis it's a faulty design best you can do is do the fishing string mod I show on my channel to help it out a little bit... for on road probably slicks will be best I think you can find some on e-bay that fit the hornet wheels. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for responding. Yeah it's very skippy. I was like what the hell. 😆
at 11:48 side view of front pogo sticks... if'n you remember, I said put on road pan car front springs to the topside of those towers.. or cut pen springs at 5/16" and flatten both new ends (edit: on each) so they're both a little less than 1/4" long. it'll help stabilize a Hornet/Hopper more than you might think. the stock rear springs in the rear pod hangers are a pain and often omitted but its definitely better with them in there and twisted open some to be a little stronger pressing the pivot pin down. they're supposed to do what the fishing line does but right at those rear slotted hangers left+right independently. if they're long gone make a pair from .020 music wire... if you got the good old hangers that were molded to have the springs in there. .020 will be a little stiffer than the stock were.
The fronts working perfect...if only the rear worked a 1/4 as good as the front suspension then it would be pretty good! LOL!! Thanks for watching.
@@ShenRC how Hornets bump steer with front suspension movement up+down, those little springs on top will put it straight much quicker, and when the rear is lifting the front they're not flopping loose to let the wheels turn a little. kinda similar with the rear springs at the slot pivots, more stable sprung down with a little more force at the ends of that long pin, it keeps it in the round bottom of the slot more often so the pod toggles left+right a lot less. you can also make the new rear pivot springs from a couple medium safety pins works, a little stronger than the stock springs back there. edit: really, try this stuff! I'm remembering my over powered Hornet days here (from 35 years ago!)
Thats fast for a brush motor. Nice video
It sure is maybe to fast LOL!! Thanks for watching 👍
26 is moving on that car it got cold fast here to im not ready for winter 💯👍
Wow it really broke i am surprised i haven't broke my hopper its a rocket bash machine
Have frost warning where I live tonight, I pulled my bucket plants into my garage and covered the 2 that are in the ground!
Yea she flew with that cheap wltoys motor!! Yea got cold fast it stinks for sure! Thanks for watching 👍
It just popped out nothing broke I was lucky.
I ment hornet not grasshopper. Lol
very minor differences, 380 vs 540 motor and Hornet are looser rear pod hangers is pretty much all. I think a GH with a newer 390 motor would be pretty happy with a smaller+lighter 2200mah LiPo juicing it.
@@modelnutty6503 first rule in hotrodding....faster n lighter! 👍
@@nateg4513 been forever ago mid late 80's and Hornet class racing. had to be a Hornet and had to be a stock motor, 27 turn 20 degree brush timing and bushings (motor). you could do little mods to the suspension and use any car body you liked, it just had to be a Hornet and 6 cell NiCad. VW bug body was a big advantage.
$11.63 shipping included isn't bad for a hot can motor, no replaceable brushes but 17-18 turns with fresh magnets is gonna run strong for quite a while.
Yea it went a lot faster than I thought!
@@ShenRC yup *really* similar to 27 turn with 34 degree brushes "outlaw stock" motor.
That was cool,awesome motor upgrade
Thanks 👍
What speed is recommended for this car? at 22 mph is the differential or ring gear likely to wear? I don't think it's good to run it at 25 mph... Greetings! (between this and the kyosho axxe) which one do you stay for and why?

Hi as long as you use a steel pinion with the hornet it can handle modern brushless motors but it don't have a great suspension so a brushed 21T motor is good for it. the axxe I had it and it does drive better than a hornet but dirt always gets inside the gears and messes up the pinion gear and spur gear so I don't like it at all. Thanks for watching.
Wicked run with the ol Hornet Steve! Impressive speed for a Tamiya, and good thinking putting the Fast Attack tires on her!👍😊
Yea those hornet tires would suck on the street for sure! Thanks for watching 👍
It's a good speed but it is certain that it weakens the whole, but with a few reinforcements it should get better, very good test .
It was crazy fast for this buggy, I was shocked it did not even break at all, Just popped out of the track that hold the rear on the chassis. Thanks for watching 👍
@@ShenRC 😊👍
Nice one, Steve - that motor sure spins up well for a cheap silver can! "^ is good in anyone's books! Too bad about the crash, but thankfully it looks like an easy fix! All the best my friend! :))
Yes the motor went a lot faster than I ever though it would! Nothing broken just popped that swing axle out she's good to go already! Thanks Mark Thanks for watching 👍
Fast car! Where did you get those Rear wheels that you used?
Hi those are the ones that come on the tamiya fast attack. Thank you
Hey shen im currently building upmy 1/24 rgt defender what tires should i get
Hi I would take a look at RC4wd.com they have a bunch of tires.👍
Shen RC ok thank you
Neat Speed test with a bonus durability test too... Jokingly said...That Tamiya was Buzzing around with all that Wltoys Power 😎👍👍 HFLPRCing 🌟 RCFAM4LIFE 🙏 Stay Safe and Play Healthy Brother Steve
Larry it flew much faster than I expected! you believe the car did not even brake the rear just popped out of the track. Thanks for watching 👍
@@ShenRC Happy nothing actually broke😎👍👍
Well worth the money me thinks Steve. Bummer about the crash but at least it doesn't look like any plastic snapped.
Rob I never thought it would go this fast with the wltoys motor! I got lucky nothing broke the rear just popped out of the track. Thanks for watching 👍
Pretty speed with both types of battery👍👍
Yea she went good! Thanks for watching 👍
did you do any modification to the new cheap motor so it fits to the shell of hornet?
Hi no it fits right in. Thanks for watching
The wind slayer is working
Yea it does a great job I use it for when I go fishing also sometimes. 👍
my Great Karnac hat is working pretty good! near 24 on NiMh and 26.3 LiPo.
weird how that rear pod kicked loose but one side up one side down with stress can do it like that, check the tub where those hangers plug in might be a little crack to throw some CA into isn't anything "bad" really. (previous video I called the speed haha)
It's all good, you guessed it! Thanks for watching 👍
That's a pretty good speed! It's very close to what we did speed wise with 21t on 3s in dt-02 holiday buggy. Nice one.
Yea I never thought that the WLtoys cheap motor would make it go that fast it's crazy! 👍👍Thanks for watching.
@@ShenRC we used a cheap surpass motor. It's rebuildable and a similar price. I didn't want to hijack your comments with a link to the video but feel free to have a look at the video on our channel. Keep up the good work.
Very nicely done video with some great information in it! The car looks great 👍!
Thank you! 👍
Nice speed run Steve cool spot for a drag strip 🐢🐢👍
Yea pretty sweet! Thanks for watching 👍
Great speed run buddy! My Grasshoppers do 31mph on 3S. Im not driving those with 2S anymore :) 👍
Wow that's crazy I could not run this at 26Mph it was insane! 👍👍Thank you
I guess thinking about using a Traxxas 12T motor is out of the question for mine. 🤣
Looks like Banggood doesn't sell that specific motor anymore, but they have ample other options.
Hi I would get like a 20T cheap RC4ws crawler motor for it anything faster just makes driving it sucky! Thanks for looking.
Well, thank you for providing helpful videos to the masses. Yeah, I'll stick with a cheap brushed combo for mine as the front end is quite weak anyways.
It was Beauty right up till ya broke it! way to go eh! LOL! That happens, cool video!
I was lucky the rear popped out nothing broke I was amazed! Thanks for watching 👍
Uhh, axle hopped out? Well, good one. I liked the walk (watching it indoors in the warmth). No idea what 26 mph is but definitely faster than the typical 30 kph a Hopper 540 goes.
Yea it's getting cold! The stock one maybe did 18mph so 26 is much faster, Thanks for watching 👍
Man that sucks hope it pops back in okay. Cool hits though
All good lucky nothing broke at all. Thanks for watching 👍
I got titan 12t it's fast with nihm
Yeah I took this out and put a 21 Turn motor in it because it was to out of control! LOL!! Thanks for watching.
Sweet,, 💯👊
Thank you!
Frankenstein Buggy
to hot to handle! Thanks for watching 👍
Goin great with that motor and so cheap. Bargain!
Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching 👍
Hahaha beauty crash! RCFL.
Yep smashed it! Thanks for watching 👍
I watched the funny and informative video well. You have a good hobby. Want to be a close friend.
우리 친구해요.~😊😊
👍Thank you
WL BEAUTY Hornet!!!
You know it bro!
These Chinese brands nearly always give you a much beefier motor than Tamiya do in the box and they cost a lot less than a Sport tuned too!
Whenever I need a cheap brushed motor with some pep, I always turn to spares for Chinese vehicles. Cheap + fast 540s are in abundance and there's plenty of 390s too which make perfect upgrades to the Tamiya 380 motors if you want something a bit quicker but don't want the full 540. The lower weight of a 390 means less unsprung mass vs a 540 too. Good for buggies with heavy unsprung axles like the Grasshopper and Hornet etc.
😁👍 Yep cheap motors can give better speed than those high $ tamiya ones that's for sure