France's Dassault Rafale Is No Competition for the F-35
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2020
- France's Dassault Rafale Is No Competition for the F-35 - What’s new in the Rafale F4? Dassault produces three basic types of Rafales: the single-seat Rafale-C, the two-seat Rafale-B (the additional weapon systems officer being preferred for strike and reconnaissance missions) and the carrier-based single-seat Rafale-M, which has an arrestor hook, reinforced landing gear and buddy-refueling pod capability. Each type has evolved in common generations designated F1, F2, F3 and F3R.
The F4 generation introduces additional network-centric warfare capabilities and data-logistics similar to those on the F-35 Lightning, enabling Rafales on patrol to build a more accurate picture of the battlespace by pooling their sensors over a secure network, and even exchange data using new satellite communications antenna. The pilots also benefit from improved helmet-mounted displays. 
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Got to respect the French for building their own hardware: nuclear missiles, nuclear powered aircraft carrier and jets....
missile, helicopter carrier, tanks, they build so much.… not surprising, it's the country who spent the most time at war in the history. They're good at war stuff :)
Baguette man here : thanks for your comment ! We are very proud of our military capabilities, especially the production in France of our needs. Not only do we have the best hardware in the EU, we produce our own ammunition etc. But we want to share our knowledge and hardware to the EU, mainly because of the budget but also because an EU army would be a great way to go toward more unity between our countries. This is why the French President Macron (and the previous one Hollande) with Deutschland Chancellor Merkel signed a treaty that will allow the creation and production of the future generation of fighter and tanks by four countries in the EU (France, Deutschland, Italy and Spain today).
If we achieve this goal, and to create a unified European army, it will be a great way to increase the budget overall and to make the EU a more respected "country" for its diplomatic and military capabilities.
We face many challenges in this world, especially in Europe, so the military will be a massive weapon in our hands if need be. It's sad because our continent has been to many time shred apart because of war, this is why we must achieve unity to protect our democracy, liberties and land.
@@Galadonin have to admit Europe has a very interesting history
@@ghostwarrior-ni1xb Yes Indeed, our History is a mix of sadness, greatness, domination and pride. For an exemple we remember the damage caused by the Nazi occupation and the War because our country was deeply changed by the occupation and the Résistance. Many Americans (for exemple) can't understand how we feel because they did not face war on their own land.
And we still face consequences from different wars. France and the UK have a strange relationship because there is still some kind of competition and pride, but they are one of our closest ally. This is the consequence of the Hundred years war (in the 14 century) and of course the Napoleonic wars.
@@Galadonin très belle résumé, J’apprécie ! 👍
You have to compare what is comparable. Two completely different planes with different objectives, the Rafale has proven its effectiveness in war zones, is multirole, extremely maneuverable, and agile and has one of the most important carrying capacity. The Rafale was built for the defense of France, home and overseas. Proud of my country.
Lu et approuvé
Pas mieux! Prenez soin de vous!
We will work with our French allies to make Rafale's better. F-35 can go undetected and track enemies using their advanced sensors and Rafale can shoot them down with long range missiles.
Pour reprendre le commentaire perfide d'un anglophone
" Le F35 est si furtif que personne ne l'a jamais vu voler"
A l'exception près et ceci et ma remarque personnelle der voler en faisant les poches des pays alliés des USA qui ont prés commandé des modèles.
No no no no no. As a proud "Froggy" you are absolutely obliged to condemn and mock the F-35! (..and any other presumptuous competitor). Shame on you! Any more of this and I'll have you put on the S list!
I'm an American and a retired Army. The Rafael is a true fighter and omni role aircraft. The F-35 is a first day strike aircraft. I love my country but the F-35 is NO match for the Rafael.
Or the Typhoon if it was to dog fight, but the F-22 would destroy both as it doesn't dog fight, it kills you at distance , might as well use a spitfire for what good a F-22 will do in a dog fight, it's one of so many jets the US have in their arsenal to do what it intended to be designed to do
@@glastonbury4304 That's what Americans say about the F22 so it's going to be biased rubbish. Typhoons and Rafales beat F22s at close and medium ranges at Red Flag and the Americans refused to take any of the jets on from long range despite the Luftwaffe and the French Air Force asking whether a BVM engagement with F22s to test the aircraft capabilities would be possible. The Americans refused to do this and banned the French from participating in future Red Flag exercises. The French then released a video of a Rafale beating an F22, annoying the Americans even more. The US clearly got worried about the capabilities of the European designs.
@@markscarisbrick1534 I think that's all fake, the Rafael's fly from US Carriers , there's huge inter military cooperation between the US and France, hardly going to ban them from red flag???...to what end??
@Lawda Ka Baal Fake News
Yup, rafale is better at WVR combat, but f-35's stealth makes it superior against air defense systems. It makes sense for USAF, which already have excellent interceptors (f-16, f-22) to develop a stealthy attack aircraft
Awesome fighter jet. !Coming soon to Greece!Thanks France!
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Yes and not turkey ! Hahahaha 😂🤣 only sanctions from the USA! Keep it up idiots !
Germany giving money. France taking it 😉
Must be paying for them in 🫒 🍅
JUST WATCHING MOTHERF@CK€S
It's flying in India. It's a beast!!.
Rafale for war.
F-35 for Hollywood.
well the french r all about sanctions so these will never probably go to war.If the egyptians or the indians use them its not gunna be effective because israili air will beat the shit out of egypt and their air force in the first few daya and china has gotten 5th gen stealth aircraft.In my view the f35 is much more effective and op than the rafale
@@generalmcarthur8401 F35 is a flying Iron. F22 (out of production) is considered as the "jewel of the crown" US jetfighter that can not be defeated and superior in a dogfight to F35. In UAE in 2009, Rafale defeated very easily F22 in a Dogfight
ruclips.net/video/KOswfrc7Xtg/видео.html
To be noted that Rafale defeated Typhoon during the same event (4 to 0 and 4 to 1).
USA has never accepted to face Rafale again with F22 or F35. So did other European countries that never accepted again to challenge the Rafale with the Typhoon.
@@jlazard2065 "Rafale defeated very easily F22 in a Dogfight" Don't lie. The F-22 never lost to the Rafale. Here's a F-22 pilot talking about how the F-22s were undefeated: ruclips.net/video/qMitljiECKg/видео.html
What's most impressive is that the F-22 pilots were rookies with less than 100 hours in the F-22.
The pilot in the video that you cited never says Splash" meaning kill. By merely saying Fox 1, Fox 2, or Fox 3, does not mean a kill, just a missile shot. The F-22's stealth has made it very difficult to get a lock onto, even in WVR.
"In air-to-air clashes, the Rafale "put sheets" on the Typhoons of the Royal Air Force, Lt. Col. Grandclaudon assures. In a degraded version, at four against four, the Rafale achieved scores of 4 to 0 and 3 to 1.
The French fighter aircraft also rubbed shoulders with the F-22, the most modern fighter of the USAF. During a game, they played each other six times, with the F-22 taking just one shot at goal. "
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And then here's the pilots quotes that further clarified the above comment: "LCL G: I did not say we 'rubbed them', I said that there was only one shot claimed (ie a simulated kill) for the six that were set-up. I read in a recent issue of Air et Cosmos that it was two. As far as I am concerned, one or two shots of six Basic Fighter Manoeuvres (BFM) encounters is a victory for the F-22 but not an overwhelming one. Not like the one we claimed against the Typhoons after combat in Solenzara, Corsica during September (9 set-up: 8 to 1 for the Rafale*). The other set-ups versus F-22s were terminated for combat deck, an un-decisive situation or lack of fuel. We never shot them down, but we hope to do so soon since we are quite good opposition for them, and it is in the pilot's spirit not to give up!"
You also need to remember that the exercises were limited to dogfights and the Rafale flew clean with no ordinance. You add some weight to those wings like at wartime and that diminishes its agility, speed, and recovery from bleed.
The F-35 is no slouch, and it would have the upper hand, especially at BVR. The simple fact that its stealth makes it very difficult to get a radar lock will allow the F-35 to get the first shot off. And even in WVR, it's no slouch, especially since it flies clean, and doesn't have ordnance hanging from its wings creating drag and wing weight,. Not only does the weapons load reduce the Rafale's agility, speed, and ability to recover from high-g turns, but they also increase the Rafale's RCS, making it an easier target.
Nevertheless, I am glad that the Rafale is with an ally, and I have have no doubts that it and the F-2235 working together will have no trouble defeating any Russian threat.
@@Thetequilashooter1 the whole idea of the F-22 is not to get into dog fights, the Rafael would be dead before it knew it was being attacked
Glastonbury I agree, but to those who think it cannot dogfight, they’re sadly mistaken. For it to come out undefeated with rookies says a lot about its abilities.
Us propaganda cannot reduce my love for rafale. Welcome to India tiger. ♥️
Or your love for rafale can't be reduced by facts and superior technology.
... "superior technology".....so : where's the result please? 😁
@@entrancemperium5506 superior technology but lol, f-35 cant even fly in a thunderstorm and cost too much, plus, rafale already wiped the f-35's ass so yh, rafale>>>f-35, its a fact dude
@@entrancemperium5506 The only thing "superior" about stealth aircraft compared to the rafale is their RCS and thermal stealth. The rafale is technologically the most advanced jet superseded only by the F-35 and the F-22.
@@yusufn7467 cap cap and cap, rafale is also stealth and can dodge any missles easily, if the rafale detects the f35 and shoot an meteor missle its over for the flying rock because u know, too slow and cant ever turn properly so no, rafale is a waaaaay above the f35
FROM ROMANIA WITH ADMIRATION AND RESPECT FOR FRENCH NATION👏👍
Welcome to Greece Rafale.
love to our Greek brothers
Nuke turkey
Hope they serve you well against your persky neighbor.
Welcome to Croatia Rafale ✌
youre bankrupt already if we fucking send you millions of money at least buy our eurofighter thats better anyway
The fact that this competition is taking place shows how good Rafale is.
Bruh rafale bad
@@Dan-zc7ut Naaaah man, rafale good
ruclips.net/video/ioTTnjxNc7o/видео.html
Dharmvir Bharti I was joking, the rafael is obviously a great plane, but the typhoon had proven many times that it is stronger
Well both China and Russia failed to bring it sooo you're all we got
im british and we invested heavily in the f35 program. certainly no expert but in a dog fight?? the raf would murder it!. glad france is on our side.
aim 9x with helmet mounted cuing system says no.
A rafale did win against a f35 so yes
@@MrGGlafrite and b17s shot down 109s. doesnt make it a better fighter. Manuevering is still important but the best modern fighters gather the most information in the shortest amount of time and make that available to allies in the area. The f35 does this much better than the rafale, all while being very hard for the enemy to detect, much less complete a kill on.
The rafale would win a guns fight but those are extremely unlikely circumstances. in a bvr fight the f35 has huge advantages. even in a close range missile fight the f35s aim 9xs can finish any maneuvering fight before it starts.
I would like to know the circumstances in which the rafale beat the f35, the excercise could have been one that it had a clear advantage in such as a bfm fight where they are both looking to get guns on one another.
F-35 is an assassin not a wrestler. Shoot down your enemy without even knowing you were there
Nobody does dogfight anymore.
Jimo Olakintan f35 isnt even battle ready what are you talking about. It’s not an assassin it’s a project
Aviation is one sector where France was always advanced. France is also a major contributor to the Airbus industry. Croatia just bought Rafale F3R fleet and it looks like a good choice.
Why are there so many dyslexic people commenting here?
It’s RAFALE, not RAFAEL !!!!!!
I know right...
C'est par ce que chez eux ils disent comme ça... du coup maintenant il sera question du typhune du gripune et du f32 vu que chez moi on dit comme ça...
Vrai! tu m'as tué de rire là! merci, à force de corriger dans les commentaires sur le Rafale et non Rafaellle raphaele. Rafaël..etc j'en ai plein les couilles
@@Fabio-om4kb 🤣😂😂🤣
@@marc9080 tellement vrai, les 5 dernières vidéo sur le Rafale que j’ai vu j’ai du faire une trentaine de commentaire c’est abusé
F-35 cost --> 400billions, Rafale-->50billions.
With the same money the French would build an X-Wing Lmfao
No shit, the F-35 is way overpriced and there are so many cheaper alternatives out there. They may not be as fancy as the F-35, but capable enough for most countries airforces.
$400 billion is the whole project cost for F-35, and has (so far) provided ~530 units.
$50 billion is the whole project cost for Rafale, and it has (so far) provided ~200 units.
so.. 8 times as much money, yes, but for 2 2/3 times as many aircraft.
@@jqbogus yep and getting shot down by a Rafale in simulations LoL
@@jqbogus 400 billion because the military complex rips of America
I'm from India we have 5 rafale thank you France, india gov ordered 36 rafale, 5 rafale already have 😊😊😊
actually french use rafale for war ... F35 just for fly 😂😂
What a stupid ass statement..
The Rafal entered service in 2001, the F4 is the 4th iteration of that design; it is not a brand new aircraft like the F35 Lightning II.
This is so dumb. The f-35 JUST entered service.
@@eddiegaltek - The stealthy setup of F35 has only 4 missiles on itself. Out of which 2 can be BVR missiles. American AIM-120 has only half the range of Meteor missiles, and much worse accuracy. I don't think Rafael is too bad compared to F35. In Lybia war, Rafael's were the front line fighter jets. I believe, even F16 can shoot down F35. F35 can never enter the heat of battle - it always has to stay on the outskirts, then hit and run.
@@coolfreaks68 The F16 - F35 incident you heard about was when they were testing some manoeuvring software for the F35.
It doesn't matter what the range of the Meteor missiles is compared to whatever the F35 has when fully deployed, it's how close you have to be to get missile lock; and radar tracking and missile lock are two very different things.
Hello Rafale, Guardian of the sky, and Welcome to Croatia! 🇭🇷 🇫🇷
Rafale F3R is the greatest 4+ generation fighter jet in the world, easily comparable to the much more expensive and unproven F-35.
Hello Croatia🇭🇷💪
I love how everyone in this comments section is an aeronautical engineer.
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Just like the guy who made this video who confuses personal opinions, glaring omissions, mistakes etc... one thing is certain Rafale works, whereas F35 is riddled with issues, late and over costs. The fact that both the US Navy and US Air Force are continuing to develop and order new variants of the F15 and F18 speaks volumes on the F35's shortcomings. We already have a pretty good idea just reading annual DOT&E and GAO reports on F35 issues.
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Max11well 001 no need to be an engineer in this case, the Rafale works, the F35 doesn’t...
Max11well 001 no need to be an engineer in this case, the Rafale works, the F35 doesn’t...
The Rafale is an excellent fighter even if it isn't truly a stealth aircraft. It's limitations are in line with France's intended use of them, basically defending French airspace over France or were ever French forces might be deployed. The Rafale makes sense for France and punches all the "tickets" for France's near-to-medium term needs.
Trish Foley and the french knows how to make good jet engines
@kevin lawrence why then are china , Russia and the USA all developing next gen stealth bombers?
@Rae West that is about fighters, bombers do not have parts small enough to "resonate" on any of those frequencies. I know it is counter intuitive but larger "bomber" sized aircraft are more stealthy . I find it hard to believe that china, Russia and the USA are all making the same mistake.
@Rae West 2014! Were doing and reporting. 6 years is a long time.
ruclips.net/video/iJX3HzFq-Xc/видео.html
Vive la France 🇮🇳🙏🏻✌️🇨🇵
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The last chapter I think 🤣
@@prasmitkumarpradhan1497 definitely
@@prasmitkumarpradhan1497 I think it was The Last Lesson
@Izno Iznogoud 👌🏻😍✌️
“Rafale is no competition for F35”
Of course not! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Rafale is flying and in combat while the F35 is in a maintenance hangar with technicians trying to deal with its 800 FLAWS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rafael been used to bomb at countries that have no air defense or jet fighters. Practice bombing doesn't count.
@@zertexz574 Talking about practice bombing for bombing Japan twice with nukes?
@@homelessstudio7960 bigg oooofffff
Zertex Z actually it was sent to take down Libyan air defenses and aircrafts altough those where inferior.
@@zertexz574 They litteraly say in the video that the Rafale bombed Libya when they still had air defense.. were you listening ?
Finally a military video that doesn’t have a robot voice.
Lol
Thats where the Indians rule
And actual facts not reading the plane's dimensions and top speed from Wikipedia
@@xingxanghanji6583 your comment has no relevance at all.
@@darkansh2291 ig u dont watch much defense videos from India, mostly the shorts, Informative Videos from India especially the defence related videos in english have this weird autotuned robot voice which just reads out facts from Wikipidea along with some rumours.
Having these US propaganda videos on my recommended is really pissing me off seeing I’m into aircraft not politics.
Yea .. 😩
Its like a Joint Strike Force for Propaganda too, I think my nation is in on it as well
This Video is Very Poorly and Inaccurately Named. It actually winds up talking about purely the Rafale and what's great about it. The Title is click-bait propaganda, but the video outlines how the Rafale is better in almost every way to the F-35, minus the lack of stealth.
By itself the video is great I Think and very informative. I would ignore the title.
Ikr
Jeese, get over it princess.
F-35 is so advanced that even its own pilots are afraid to use it.
Sarcasm at its best .
Rafale is good no doubt in that
@@MrJerrad79 you don't own shit
No they are afraid of use it, because they know it can crash if the air is too hot, screens don't work, and nocturn vision is shit.
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@@fxnap2326 source
Greece is getting 18 of these bad boys
It's a girl, she's too sexy to be a guy : )
RAFALE IS SOOooooooooo BEAUTIFUL
More than that, EFFICIENT and has proven it in war zones.
The Rafael is probably one of my favorite looking jets it’s got something that modern stealth fighters lack I don’t know how to describe it it’s just awesome
Exactly. I just can’t think how can someone make a jet fighter this pretty
Multirole capacity? :)
Marcel Dassaut, the foundator of Dassaut aviation (who made planes such as the Mirage, Etendard and Rafale) always said that a good plane that doesn't look great isn't a good plane.
The Rafale is his final work, he died just before the first flights.
The beauty of this aircraft is undeniable
@@tangilehenaff7954 CLASSIC WORDS
Well this is the first time I'm using the expression, but what Trevor means is the Rafale has a certain...... je ne sais quoi! lol
A Rafale Engine will be changed in 2 hour. Everything in Rafale is modular organized. The f-35 Technician are still searching for tools and equipment.
2 hour for an engine change is nothing to boast about. It takes a ground crew using only basic (i.e. unpowered) tools 40 to 50 minutes to change out a Saab Gripen's engine.
@@F15ElectricEagle but can a Gripen detect passively an aircraft up to 150km? To track it in network and engage it passive with LAL missile? Can a Gripen track, aquire and destroy up to ten ground targets at the same time while remaining undetected by ground defences? Can a Gripen detect LPI radar with its own electronic warfare system? Can A Gripen nullify incoming radar wave 360° and generate false radar wave behind it to actively being stealthy? Can a Gripen bring a nuclear warhead? Can a Gripen be launch from a carrier? Can a Gripen make a F22 pilot sweat so much his general had to lie, saying the F22 was too heavy due to droptanks, and when busted saying that the pilot was a rookie (yeah, sure, rookies on a 320M$ fighter) and strangely stop inviting Rafale for exercises?
the Gripen is a nice cheap light fighter, but it's not even close to the Rafale's league in terms of capacities not to mention its max take off weight is closer to the dry weight of a Rafale than its max take off one. That's why it can be quite simpler to maintain. It's a smaller, cheaper, with not even 20% of the Rafale's capabilities. that's comparing a Lada to DS. Both are useful, not for the same tasks.
No mention the fact that the comparison is between the Flying Iron/Turkey/F-35 and the Rafale since the video do this comparizon.
@@DC2022 Yes
@@F15ElectricEagle 🤣 thank you! I had a good laugh. Good New Years Eve
@French Street what made you think I wasn't calm? Being thorough doesn't imply being angry ; )
Comparer le Rafale à ce fer à repasser hors de prix qu'est le F-35 !!! Ils ne manquent pas d'air les amerloques ;-))
Tu l'as dit !
@Izno Iznogoud And yet another lie.... I am done wasting my time on you. You're not worth it.
Le F-35 est très avancé technologiquement. Oui les Américains aiment trop dépenser très souvent mais il s'assurent toujours d'être dominant dans leur secteur alors je ne sais plus qui croire lol. Qu'est-ce que le F-35 cache qui pourrait bien faire fermer la bouche à tout le monde dans un conflit?
@@zoommaroctv5225 une barre de chocolat en cas de crash
@@zoommaroctv5225 une bouteille d'oxygène de secours réquisitionnée dans un hôpital
Rafale, launched in early 2000's, still make jaleous the world in 2020. :)
@Izno Iznogoud are you dumb
go back to school you still dont know how to spell jealous.
@Izno Iznogoud The F35 is proven worldwide to be a 5th generation multirole aircraft.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II.
@@generalmcarthur8401 I'm not English, but i bet i speak a better English that you'd speak in my native language so learn respect for starters. :)
@@tonyhawk94 Whats ur native language.Mine is ancient aztec.
Rafael with brahmos 🤩
It's have its own weapon package don't need brahmaos
Rafel is best! Buuut f35 is better than the best!
@@JehadiHellTransportAgency bruh they don't have better cruise missiles than Brahmos
@ nirbhay is there dude 😉👍
Rafale !!!!! Not Rafael
F35 is 5 gen aircraft while Rafael is 4.5 gen.ur comparison is result of ur anxiety about success of Rafael
nobody cares of the so-called aircraft's géneration ....And in terms of generation F 35 should be only fourth
@@clavier2560 true,it should be
The Rafael Works the F-35 does not
Both are f35 and rafals are superb. But f35 is better than the best.
What success has the Rafael had honestly ?
France brought it into service May 2001. Its 2020 and there are barely 201 built with 84 external orders.
India was supposed to be 125 planes and ended just 36 . Dassault pulled planes that were supposed to be for the FAF to give to Egypt
Despite having 24 Rafales, Egypt signed an order for 46 MIG-29M, plus 24 Su-35 and 50 MiG-35?
Same with Qatar ,21 Rafales plus additional orders 36 F-15QA and 24 Typhoons
Hell even India is looking else where for more fighters
This is one amazing fighter jet, and I hope that Croatia will have them soon.
I want directly from USA f 16.
Soon in Croatia!
Done 💪.
Update : Croatia chose Rafale ! :)
It was just anoounced today. They got em
The F-35 is so stealth, no one has ever seen it flying!
Hahahahaha NOT. 1 to 3 to Rafale???? And the battle was in the United States.
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The F35 is made to fly high and remain furtive. However the extent of its stealth can be discussed : radar signature in VHF and L bands is the same than conventional fighter jets. And it has only partial stealth in S and X bands (depends on the angle).
Rafale is meant for automated extremely low altitude (30 meters) and hypersonic flight during ground attack (advanced avionics for this purpose). Russian S-400 does not commit to such target either.
As allies, we should be happy to have complementary approaches rather opposing the two. 🤷🏻♂️
@Blob B From time to time even sinking it.
Pfft
You're right, the Rafale is no competition for F35..... When it comes to scam buyers or being useless
The F35 is the most capable combat aircraft ever designed.
@@cbaylor0369 🤣 most overpriced toy, with confusing purpose
@@cbaylor0369 Ummm the rafale can defeat the F35, is good to be stealth but when you can be defeat by a 4.5 generation plane that not the same and radar is going to be better in years so after maybe you can't be stealth so you will need to fight and take sometime to see the price give it to Dassault aviation they made you a better plane than the F35
@@cbaylor0369 most capable of what ? It's not the fastest, not the most agile, it doesn't have a huge payload or a great combat range. F 35 is just the US trying once again to have a single plane for all it's armies, and failing, while France succeeded 20 years ago without even tryingn
McDonnell Douglas kind of proved that with the F-15X. Let's not forget the cost overruns and delays of the F-35 programme. At one point, it was rumoured that the USN was thinking of resurrecting the F-14 while waiting for delivery of the F-35. Canada has pumped way too much money into this project while not receiving one operational aircraft.
This is not what we see in simulation and dog fight exercices where french airforce destroyed everyone in US. France and Rafale are not invited anymore in those exercices and sim.
the U.S. has even ruled out the Rafale because "it's out of competition"
Not invited anymore, really?
@@radjalomas8854 😂😂😂
@@pranamsharma1141 what? it's a serious question
@@radjalomas8854 Yup, not invited. Even claimed falsely that the pilot was a beginner or that the french were cheating. But that's a lot of balooneys. The French are fairplay.
Even in engineering the French create works of art. There is an undeniable beauty to the Rafale, like Vulcan whispered the design into the minds of men.
Congrats to all our French allies.
@@jasc4364how is it useless??
Merci la france 😊😇
It's a beast . Comes to Croatia next year . Vive la France !!!!
F35- doesn't let u know if its there
Rafale- u can't do anything even if u know its there
@Izno Iznogoud all fictional nonsense. It does not have emitters all around the aircraft for active cancellation, it's IR stealth is a myth and based on videos where the aircraft is flying slower, on lower power settings, and using a different IR camera, and plasma stealth has never been stated to ever be used for the F4 variant. All of what you speak is unsupported nonsense and it's laughable.
@Izno Iznogoud you killed it 😂😂😂 that dude just got owned
Can i let u know what happend To ur stealthy f117
@Izno Iznogoud Literally everything you said is wrong.
Spectra does not consist of 31 emitters/ receivers around the aircraft. Spectra consists of the following systems. The number of transmitters and receivers you cite is not correct or even in the ballpark. Rafale's Spectra's electronic warfare in the electromagnetic spectrum consist of standard RWRs and jammers. Thee integrated jammers cover the frontal and rear aspects of the aircraft respectively. The REB2 AESA radar on Rafale lacks the power of US AESA arrays such as APG-81. In addition, the inclusion of dedicated jamming arrays was due to the fact that the original PESA radar that Rafale had absolutely no electronic warfare capability. Thales has not advertised any built in jamming capability to the RBE2 and its low TR count of around 900 TR modules would back up my claim here. www.thalesgroup.com/en/active-electronically-scanned-array-aesa-rbe2-radar
Nonetheless, my point still stands. While rafale includes an RWR, it does not have the transmitter capability for active cancellation technology. This would require not only omni-directional receivers, but omni-directional transmitters which rafale DOES NOT have. You can actually see a detailed outline of what systems are included in the SPECTRA suite.
There are a altitude of sources claiming active cancellation technology on the Rafale. The origin of this claim is from Bill Sweetman: www.defenseindustrydaily.com/frances-rafale-05991/ who supposedly interviewed some Thales engineers who talked about it. Your source is literal hearsay. What actually happened is Thales and MBDA confirmed the use of active cnacellation technology on the F4 Rafale against the small and single-frequency arrays on Missiles. Measuring the wavelength of enemy radar and cancelling it with an opposite phase return would again, require omni-directional transmitter capabilities and radars that use the same frequency. Frequency hopping radars such as those seen on most modern fighters would render the technology useless. No plasma stealth has ever been talked about for the F4. Prideful French people will love your rebuttal because active and plasma stealth is a comfortable fiction that makes Rafale relevant on the modern battlefield, but regardless of the nonsense you talk, there is no active stealth or plasma stealth on the Rafale.
Onera did not solve issues related to plasma stealth. Again, you are speaking nonsense. Literally none of this happened and all available research proves without a doubt that everything I am saying here is correct. How dare I insult the French by suggesting they don't have technology out of a sci-fi novel. In fact, I've found you talking all over the internet about active stealth and plasma stealth. You literally never site anything credible. You just claim ONERA figured it out just because they've been at it for 10 to 15 years. www.quora.com/Will-France-try-to-develop-its-own-stealth-jet-or-decide-to-buy-F-35-stealth-plane-from-the-USA Look at you here spouting nonsense with unsubstantiated claims. You have ZERO confirmation of its application on any aircraft and at best it may be applied to FCAS and even that is unlikely. Speaking of which, why does FCAS use traditional planform alignment stealth as a means of reducing its RCS? Could it be that plasma stealth is nonsense? ABSOLUTELY.
@@bazzooka96 the only one getting owned is the overly confident French who are a decade behind, and Indians if you want to fight the Chinese. What are you people so proud of anyways? You bought a second rate 4+ gen fighter from another country.
Rafal for war.
F-35 for Hollywood & branding only. 🤣🤣
Only a jealous Rafale fanboy would say so, the F-35 has already seen more combat than Rafale
@@F22raptor46 no it hasn't
@@atomic_s0n1 Yes it has, and more countries operate it than the Rafale, plus it's cheaper than the Rafale while being a whole generation ahead
It's true, F35 is a very good product to sell, but USA army just want F15II, a lot more reliable, costless, and efficient plane. F35 is for the show, F15II for war... As the Rafale.
@@mcduftv9367 lol 🤣🤣🤣
i love France!!
Merci beaucoup
India needs 36 more in addition to the 36 ordered its more than enough to counter both China and its Son pakistan at the same time!!
India needs min 100 rafale jets
India also need french pilots to fly these planes.
@@askhan111 lol
@@askhan111 🤭🤭🤭 Pakistan pilots are banned in EU in fake degree 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭. Forget about india..
@@askhan111 hello fake account Chinese guy.
The Rafale is recognized by all pilots around the world as a amazing warplane.
It shows and has shown its full potential on numerous battlefields. Also, the F4 standard is on the way.
On the other side, the F35 is still not able to fly without restriction.....
I am new to this. What is "flight without restrictions" ?
@@johndavolta3124 just restrictions to what you can do in the f35 or go near like it is not allowed to fly within 20 nautical miles(?) of a thunderstorm
@@sabre6464 ahh makes sense.
Rafale does have some stealth it's just not as stealthy as the f35.@@jasc4364
@@jasc4364 no plane can be truly stealthy, and trust me even the mighty F-22 can still be easily spotted by a MiG-21 because even with all the stealth that could disguise him to a mosquitos, to the ennemie, a mosquitos spotted alone in high altitude is no mosquitos, and stealth isn't the main argument as to why a plane can be usefull or not to any army in the world (its true that it can help though but stealth has multiple factor and Rafale does have active stealth capability)
I had the honour to work in the rafale department in Paris as an intern. This aircraft as seen more than 4000 modifications since the first prototype to make it the best military aircraft in the world. Amazing!
Thank You Dassault Aviation for Rafael. From India
You know nothing of what you're talking about. You take the US military doctrine and think of it as universel truth. Well, it doesn't work that way.
The Rafale embodies another doctrine, where, among other things, stealth characteristics are active and adaptative, as opposed to the passive approach of the F-22 / F-35. Funny you mention the Spectra system but failed to include it in your evaluation. With the Spectra system, the Rafale's radar signature is not significantly greater than that of the F-35. So in terms of stealth characteristics, it's a wash. But the Rafale is way more agile and versatile than the F-35.
When evaluated side-by-side, absent any politically motivated arm-twisting, the Rafale is considered far superior to the F-35. The Rafale is undisputadely the best versatile jet fighter in the world right now (the Typhoon is superior in air superiority missions but lacks the Rafale's versatility).
You are assuming active stealth or active cancellation technology is currently active on the Rafale, and I've seen this assertion many times. There was talk of active cancellation technology being implemented on the B-2 spirit. The way this technology works is by sending an exactly opposite out of phase signal at the incoming radio wave and thus destroying it so nothing can be reflected. The origin of active cancellation technology claims being from Bill Sweetman: a former Janes editor known for his persuit of the Aurora project. That being said, the only positive confirmation of active cancellation or "active stealth" technology being implemented on Rafale is from Thales and MBDA claiming it may be developed for the purpose of cancelling missile seekers, but not large x band arrays on fighters. www.defenseindustrydaily.com/frances-rafale-05991/ This will be implemented on Rafale F5 in the form of a pod.
Active cancellation technology is very difficult to achieve, and even more difficult to achieve against an AESA radar changing frequencies 1000 times per second. It is my opinion that the technology may be implemented for missile defense, but implementing this for general stealth into SPECTRA would be near impossible. This has also not been confirmed by any official source, nor has the effectiveness of active cancellation been documented against VLO tech on F-35. Your conclusion is little more than conjecture.
Now as for your other claims, I would like to politely debate you on that because I disagree.
1. The Rafale is not necessarily more agile or more versatile than F-35. In in clean to light air to air configuration Rafale is probably more agile, but even equipping 4 AAMs and 5,100 pounds of fuel to both aircraft results in a thrust to weight advantage to F-35A. The gap only increases in F-35's favor as more weapons are added. With regards to versatility, F-35 holds a significantly larger internal fuel volume allowing it a much greater combat radius without equipping draggy external tanks. To achieve any real combat range, Rafale needs 3 external tanks. Rafale's actual useful combat load is less than F-35. In addition to this, we know active stealth is not what you claim it to be. F-35 has the option to strike deeper in contested airspace.
2. The F-35 in pretty much every metric other than clean configured top speed and maneuverability actually comes out on top. It has more range, a higher thrust to weight ratio where it counts, larger useful weapons payload, a more comprehensive electronic warfare suite, better situational awareness thanks to DAS, internally integrated towed decoys, and a radar with 676 more TR modules than the AESA on Rafale. Not only this, but Rafale's unit price is the same, while F-35's cost per flight hour is projected to drop to near that of Rafale.
The F-35 is the better multirole platform.
Lol, did this dude just compare the stealth capabilities of this jet with a fifth generation stealth fighter? Was this post satire?
Real American at 03:40 rafales entred contested airspace in 2011 with active stealth..
@@anteeko no they didn't, thats pure nonsense. They have dedicated phased array antennas for jamming. This is not active stealth. This system is part of SPECTRA and allowed the airplane to fly alone without additional SEAD aircraft. Jammers are not active stealth. If this were the case, any aircraft equipped with the phased array radars could have "active stealth". Not only this, but Rafale does not have omnidirectional transmitters. It has passive sensors for use as missile launch detectors.
Hahahahah
Egypt has 54 of these Rafales second largest to France of course Love to our French brothers 🇪🇬❤️🇫🇷
❤ from France
Welcome to Indonesia Rafale 🇮🇩🇫🇷
Blm juga deal
F35 doesn’t stand a chance against French Rafale, the Rafale proved its performance in a dogfight against a F22 which ended up loosing by far. And overall Rafale has better performances for a much lower cost, Americans being just irrational again 🌚
Le combat contre le f22 s'est fait au canon à courte distance. Le F22 semblait avoir un pilote débutant où faisant des erreurs.
Do you have a link to that video?
John Smith just type Rafale vs F22
Eric terrier il y aura toujours une excuse, comme si un débutant aurai pu relever d’un tel niveau de pilote
Eric terrier le pilote du rafale également j’imagine, aucun pilote n’est parfait
So basically, it kicks the f35's ass
yeah easily, rafale is a god plane
Yeah Rafael is better
Loool not even close
not only the ass but it's whole family XD
it real doesnt. In a Dog Fight, 100%. But Dogfights don't happen anymore, the F35 would shoot an AMRAAM at the Rafale without the Rafale even seeing it
Eagerly awaiting for... welcome to India...🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳...jai hind...
Soon rafale will be knock down by Pak/China.😁
Zawwar Ahmad dude really pakistan with f-16 will knockdown rafale? Grow up kiddo.
@@pakfood4033 😝😝😂😂
@@user-iw5pe5dj9f what about China 🤣🤣🤣
@@pakfood4033 ur f16 shoot down by might 21 lol
From what i have read about the new f4 Rafale,it will also have some stealth capabilities and can lock multiple targets and chose the most dangerous to shoot down and all of that from quite a distance of over 100 klm.Been looking at the Greek airforce who still use the Mirage-5 and give the f16 a run for its money.France always made great fighter planes.
F-16, has never been good. Its just a very cheap plane where you can buy alot of, which can carry some decent missiles.
Rafale already has some stealth to begin with, they're just going to make stealthier than it already is.
The F-35 is an excellent plane as long as it isn't used in actual combat
@@MrMach30 I think he means that if things get ugly and you have to fight head to head
I can tell that you get your information from Russian propaganda
That’s what happens when you make a one Trick pony
@@owencrofford9152
A BVR kill is a good trick to have.
@@JoeRogan898 can tell you get your information from American propaganda
Lol, call us when the F35 will be able to take off before saying it's superior to the Rafale.
@leonardimas1 euro fighter or rafale? Bc the eurofighter is in use with the British(royal air force) and german(luftwaffe)
Whats your number. British have them on their new carriers.
There's HUNDREDS of them in service now, Johnny.
@@aarty-fox-7294 defence.pk/pdf/threads/swiss-air-force-documents-on-the-evaluation-of-the-eurofighter-gripen-ng-rafale.408245/
@leonardimas1 Italy tested nothing and said nothing. More fictional bullshit. F-35 has more fuel, longer range, better avionics, larger payload, can perform missions rafale cannot dream of. "only stealth". How about in most useful areas? The Rafale is only better at flying air shows with clean configuration. F-35 is built for war. If i wanted middleweight 4th gen fighter, ide buy an upgraded F-16 for half the price of the overhyped rafale.
for the price of one F35 you can have 12 Rafale. One F35 Vs 12 rafale, the f35 loose.
The Rafale costs $85 mil, while the F-35 is now selling for less then 80.
@@Thetequilashooter1 Of course, I don't believe it. And if they ever did it's probably because that plane is a failure.
@@homelessstudio7960 Blah, blah, blah, all your personal opinion, which means nothing to me. If it was a failure, and you're such an expert, you better hurry up and go tell Japan and Israel that they are both making huge mistakes by placing additional orders for more F-35s. It's obvious that you're just an anti-US troll who refuses to hear the truth. What trolls like you don't understand is that all aircraft go through a maturation cycle, where early on their problems are exposed, and it takes time to fix them. Don't be such a jerk.
@@Thetequilashooter1 Sure, the americans never ever had claimed the F-35 was the best in the world and they also never flexed on the price of the plane too. I'm not anti-american I'm anti-fake news and pardon my sarcasm that you aren't able to take.
@@homelessstudio7960 Nah, you're just a jerk. I can take whatever words you deliver, but I don't like people who claim fake news when it's the truth, or when they automatically revert to childish insults without even looking into the facts.
Have you seen the price of the Rafale being sold? Before being so judgmental you need to research into it. The reason why the F-35 can be sold at a low cost is because of economies of scale, lower costs because they're spread out over more units.
"Also, Qatar bought its Rafales at $292 million per unit, Egypt bought the same fighter for $246 million per unit and India paid $243 million."www.dnaindia.com/blogs/column-india-s-tryst-with-rafale-modi-s-new-india-triumphs-2834813
Great jet, thanks for the video.
Welcome to Croatia Rafale!! ✌🇭🇷✌
The Dassuakt Rafale is a sexy killer machine. One of the best of its generation.
I don't understand a lot of airplanes... But this seemed an really weird comparison. I mean you are comparing a Fighter with a Ninja. Both have different functions
F35 can rip the ass of rafale..... No one can defeat USA jet fighters
@@jahangirali6225 never in my life have I laughed so hard
True
@Ahmed Tupajic F22 is the best ever
Omoma Omoma search on yt rafale vs f22 pls and come back later 😉
Comingg sooon to Croatiaaa
Thanks France🇨🇵🇭🇷
Welcome in Croatia army! ❤️
2 engines in the Rafale. That's all I need to hear.
They will shake your house. Trust me.
Good usa propaganda. Your f16 was downed by an MIG by abhinandan in pakistan.
Our neighbours will tell they have captured Israeli pilots from the Indian airforce jets, funny liars of Pakistan
F16 usa has far better then the one sold to pakistan ad it probably didnt have upgrades
@Narendra Modi pentagon confirmed no F16 was shoot down , just another indian media propaganda .
@@razakamran367 pentagon never confirmed it ,it later denied it ,I think your fake news agency which denied Osama bin Laden presence at Pakistan didn't update you
@@razakamran367 Pentegon is in Shame of its F-16 collapse to an old Bison
As a french citizen, i feel so proud when our engineers achieve such a work... Dassault made its combat masterpiece with this one. That's unfortunate so few country bought it, we french are not good salesmen, we never were... I think the F-35 is a different machine, stealth means something, it is a strategic path U.S. Air Force followed since a while, maybe combat to come will prove they are right, even now it is questionable stealth is key for fighters.
American are very good lobbing , f 16 more then 1000 sell.around the world , Rafael only 200 model made ,24 Qatar, 24 Egypt and now 36 India
@@anysam2061 The Rafale has 321 orders for now, the F-22 were built at 183 unit, and i don't think you can compare efficiency by the production numbers anyway...
F-104 (official nickname "starfighter") nicknamed in real world "widowmaker" have been produce at about 2500 units.
Buying a war plane is not like buying a car, there is politics behind and if you want to be friend with the US, you have to buy US planes, if you want to be independent you make your own planes, if you want to develop your aerial industry you buy some ToT and you develop partnership or if you don't give a single s*** you copy the few units you've buy ... etc
Military markets are 80/90% politics.
Rafale armed with brahmos & hammer missiles = destruction
Rafale could carry Brahmos but SU-27 would be a better platform for missiles of that weight.
French rafales with israeli and russian bombs, flown by indian pilots will be nice combination
@@janegerrard1073 it's su 30 mki my friend.
@@sree716 actually brahmos is both Russian and Indian.
Able to use unprepared airfields is one KEY factor for operating in Indian conditions. Finicky planes are unsuitable, especially since India is also using highways for combat operations.
Personally, I'm extremely pleased that India opted for this fighter.
The rafale is the only jet than carries Triple it’s weight
As a French person, it’s nice to see all these positive comments ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Merci beaucoup
Meteor are not British missiles, but it is produced by French MBDA based company with HQ in Le Plessis-Robinson. By sharesholders it is European company, but French division of MBDA produce Meteor.
source?
Welcome to Croatia Rafale !!
That aircraft seem to be great in the air and must be really excellent at close air support for ground troops as well as fighter roles.
WOW, good and newish info. Nice
I think the Rafale is one of the most beautiful and lethal fighters around.
Man are you comment on every statement? I hope you are paid for that otherwise it's pathetic to be polite
Unlike the F-35 which is an abject failure, the Rafale is actually working.
This must be a joke! - right.
Actually at this past Red Flag rotation (20-05) Red Air consisting of Viper Blk 50s and 8 Rafale B/C destroyed (training) all of the F-35s in 3 Separate strike groups with zero losses. Although Red Air gets only rudimentary AEW support ("go that way"), the Rafale's SUPERIOR data link, ISR and EW suite allowed Red Air to locate the so-called "Stealth" F-35s and close to WVR undetected to destroy the
ungainly, low kinetic performance Lightning II, or as US Hornet pilots call it the Intruder MK2.
This is the first time the French Defense authorities have allowed the full use the Spectre system at Red Flag, the USAF wasn't prepared for its performance.
Also here at Nellis ATC we tracked Rafale multiple times over flight level 65.
The Hammer is nothing like the JDAM, as Raytheon Technologies has signed a contract with France to produce the Hammer under license for the USAF, USMC and USN.
The MBA Meteor is a European consortium under the Airbus Military umbrella, it's mostly French.
You should probably study a bit before making misleading videos.
New radar technology and sensers will always be a threat to stealth aircraft, even the f35 and f22 or any other stealth aircraft over time as its developed.
Welcome to Hellas Rafale! Fear for the enemys!!!
That's a lot of good points for an aircraft that is "no competition"
French Rafale is a really excellent aircraft.
Rafale not Rafael
Great video 🎉
Rafale is a complement to stealth fighters, not a replacement for them. It is one of the best fighter options for this purpose, bringing impressive firepower to assist stealth fighters in combat and having lower operational cost than stealth fighters for daily patrols outside of conflicts. Rafale also has about as low radar cross section as the external stores that it carries. Anything stealthier would still be just as easy to spot when carrying external stores but cost more to maintain.
Thats why they have internal stores....
@@EnglishScripterbut if you use only internal space ur not gonna have enough weapons or fuel for a mission
Not true. You have air to air refueling. And they can carry enough munitions.@@KenzoMain
@@EnglishScripter still not as much as the Rafale and air to air refueling is a complicated procedure that can't be done in contested airspace
Better some stealth than no stealth, every little bit helps.
Rafale I can do perform air supremacy, interdiction, aerial reconnaissance, ground support, in-depth strike, anti-ship strike and nuclear deterrence missions...
F35 on the other hand I am stealthy so your performance doesn't matter..
Saved your 10 minutes
Rubbish its not an air supremacy jet. its a ground attack jet that can work of an ACC. If this went up against a typhoon, f-35 or f-22 it would get owned.
Absolute BS show evidence!
The problem i see with the F-35 is that they put all their eggs into one basket, its slow, less manuverable, poor weapons payload, short range, and when a radar is developed that is able to detect stealth aircraft it will probably be known as the flying coffin.
@@shaundouglas2057 Poor weapons payload (it has 40% more load than rafale and has a more exstensive range of missiles tha the rafale? Making it more capable at mission specific tasks than the Rafale. f-35 is far more Manuverabley in full loadout than any 4th gen jet. If the rafale is caught in a situation it dumbs its payload and fuel and would keep only its A2A missiles unlike the f-35 that would still be able to have the same capabilities in full load out. Huge differece. Also the f-35 will always have the advantage as know jet can ever sneak up on it before detection. The AI would make the tactical decision to either attack or find a find another solution to combat the threat. The f-35 is designed to survive far more than the rafale.
As for short range you do understand that the next engine upgrade is a ramjet engine that will increase speed and range? The jet also will have a drone fueling option soon that mitigates the lower range you state.
The stealth fueling drones are just one of many new tech that is already designed into the f-35 program. Lasers and magnetic pulse ordinance is also int he pipeline.
When people say the jet is not nimble they are so wrong. Every jet has trade offs but to say the jet is not good in a dogfight is a huge mistake. Its just that the f-35 does not need to rely on a dogfight. If it gets to that stage then the pilot has made multiple errors which would never happen.
Whoever can gather, process and exploit the most information in the quickest time will win the information war and ultimately the fight. With fifth generation aircraft being able to instantly share data with their fourth generation cousins they are the most effective and leathal jets in the World. The rafale is not a stealth jet or 5th gen. Its a 4th gen jet with Radar absorbing paint job. and slightly better thermal image. It was not design from the bottom up as a stealth jet period.
@@llamudos9809 9 T payload for the Rafale 8.2 T for the F 35... where are your 40%
F-35 pilots make movies. Rafale pilots make history.
Which history you have made???Surrender against Germany???.
@@thetopsecretpentagonsclass6350
I didn't know rafale were used during WW2.
@@thetopsecretpentagonsclass6350 the only people who fought at the beginning of the war were the Poles and the French, the English fled, the other Europeans bowed down and the Americans who had soldiers in France did not intervene, they put a year to return to the states, their officers made routs with the Germans, ref this French bashing on the part of people who are hiding stuffed me.
Recently started to appreciate the beauty of this aircraft
Beautiful, versatile and effective plane
F-35 is monomaniac of money.
Yes, but it is now on track to make back every dollar spent to make it, plus, a hefty profit for the next project. In fact, the F-35 is on track to be the best selling fighter jet the US has ever created.
Not to mention the 10's of thousands of Jobs it has created across the US in order to produce it.
O yes? better ask Israel, they love it, and these guys don't fool around, also ask Japan, UK and Australia.
@@calden74 hundreds of thousands of jobs across the whole world actually.
@@calden74 thats one way of putting it
@@calden74 it will never make back every dollar it costed to us gov
F35 is a technology showcase not a combat aircraft
F35 is not war proven - Rafale is
@@sheelmirji5494 F35 isnt war proven, spitfire is. you see how broken that argument is?
Air force pilots love the f35, even those who fly other airframes say it has unbelievable capabilities.
@Northern Lad lol man this is rediculous here americans are comparing Rafale with f22 and f35 and u illetrates compare it with ur Junker 17
Is that why Israel is using it at will in Syria, and Russian SAMS cannot do anything about it? OR how about how Israeli F-35's flew over Iran undetected, and it resulted in an Iranian general getting fired?
I hate praising the French but the rafale looks absolutely awesome
France as always discreet and elegant
The Zero fighter has tighter radius turn than F35.
Cost (with inflation added): $ 0.95 million / unit.
Welcome to Greece 🚀🏅
The Rafale has proven itself in combat. We know what it's worth. Sometime the old and tested proves itself better than the flashy novelty. The F-35 is still a work in progress and has had many growing pains.
The F-35 is flying missions over Syria and Afghanistan. Israeli F-35s have also flown over Iran undetected, something the Rafale cannot do. Of course the F-35 has growing pains. All aircraft have them.
@@Thetequilashooter1 The Rafale isn't a stealth airplane mate. The F35's main goal is stealth, stealth comes with a lot of drawback in maneuvrability, firepower, aerodynamism and overall performance. Therefore only useful on precise applications but I'm not an expert.
@@homelessstudio7960 I never said the Rafale wasn't stealth, which you seem to think is good. Not only does not being stealth mean its a larger target on radar, but it also means it carries its ordnance externally, creating a larger RCS, making it a larger target. From what I've seen the F-35's maneuverability is quite impressive, and so is the F-22's. A legacy aircraft has to carry its ordnance on the wings, creating wing and drag weight, reducing its agility and speed. The F-22 and 35 don't have that problem since their weapons are stored internally and neat the center of the fuselage. Of the two, the F-35 is less maneuverable than the F-22, but even so, it's still quite impressive. Check out its instant and sustained turn rates in this video: ruclips.net/video/-m6cmcWNxFU/видео.html Those are essential to survival in a dogfight.
By the time it gets finished other more reliable and capable 5th gen fighters would be operational in numbers.
wtf are you talking about, the F35 isnt work in progress, its in service for over 5 years now, has been delivered to multiple countries and saw combat in Syria. But nice uneducated bs take
Who just came here to see how many times the Rafale is misspelled Rafael? 😂
Zy-va l’aut, comment y’m parle là ?!?
wow the 2nd line of ur comment is so cringe
@@IStMl It's not as bad as your missing capitalisation, grammar and spelling failure.
@Izno Iznogoud je sais, et c'est super cringe de le mettre dans un com pour donner un style.
@@Kyrelel It's way worse, only 3 words in the line are correctly spelled or exist.
Something that has nothing but stealth to show for itself is better than a masterpiece of an Omnirole jet with SPECTRA.
Makes sense !
If you are building a "one" plain air force then the omnirole jet makes sense. BUT if like the UK or Germany you plan to have more than one combat aircraft in service, then an air dominance fighter (typhoon) and another for ground attack and ECM (F35 or f18 ) makes more Spence .
Its not just stealth its the situational awareness the plane provides. It can get closer to the enemy without revealing itself and send its data and information to friendly aircraft, making every other plane in the areas job easier. Its essentially a fighter, bomber and mini awacs all mixed into one.
@Izno Iznogoud I dont think you understand how stealth works my friend. It is to do with radar cross section and your profile within that which is provided by the aircrafts airframe shape and any weapons and hardpoints it has on it in addition. The packages added to the Rafale that they call stealth cannot hide the fact it was never designed as a stealth aircraft and it is extremely easy to detect and track on radar. Trying to compare a stealth aircraft with an internal weapons bay to a delta wing with canards and external weapons is laughable. The Rafale is nowhere near the F-35 in terms of stealth. The ROFAR is nice and can detect stealth aircraft but lots of things can detect stealth aircraft. Stealth doesnt mean invisible. It does however, mean that it is very hard for any radar to keep it locked for a long period of time, which means it cannot be shot down as any missile fired at it is getting inconsistent tracking/targeting data from the radar guiding it. The only thing the Rafale can compare to the f35 in is close range dogfighting, something the F35 was never designed for nor should it ever be in that situation. Keep in mind that whenever US stealth aircraft train with friendly countries they have external pods attached to the aircraft to make them easier to detect on radar so that the US doesnt give even their allies knowledge on the true capabilities of the aircraft.
Absolutely right. When it comes to shooting itself down with its own cannon, the Rafale fails miserably.
A round exploded. Could have happened to any cannon, let alone any aircraft.
"France's Dassault Rafale Is No Competition for the F-35" ur right, the rafale is way way better
welcome to greece rafale! 🇫🇷 🇬🇷 🇫🇷 🇬🇷
The channel's discription (go see by yourself) :
"US Military News & Video RUclips Channel brings you contents and communications from the United States Armed Forces Department of the Army, Department of the Navy, Department of the Marine Corps, Department of the Air Force, and Coast Guard."
Make me doubt just a little bit about this video's purpose... :)
Yes Rafale is no competition, the Rafale is far superior in every categories
Swiss evaluation says otherwise.
Bullshit.
nice video ! :) nice Rafale
I really would like to have one!! 😁