Hospital: We Can't Deliver Babies Anymore Because of Abortion Ban
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2023
- A hospital in rural Idaho will stop delivering babies because doctors are leaving the state due to a ban on abortion. Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur discuss on The Young Turks. Watch TYT LIVE on weekdays 6-8 pm ET. ruclips.net/user/theyoungturkslive
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"Rural areas in the U.S. have faced a decline in hospitals that provide obstetric services for years, and the fate of one hospital in northern Idaho suggests that abortion bans could worsen the trend.
As The Washington Post reported reported Tuesday, Bonner General Health in Sandpoint, Idaho has been forced to announce the impending closure of its labor and delivery department, citing staffing issues as well as the state's punitive abortion ban-one of the strictest in the nation-and threats from state Republicans to make the law even more stringent.
The state's ban criminalizes abortion cases in almost all cases and threatens doctors who provide care with felony charges, suspension or termination of their medical license, and up to five years in prison. It includes potential exceptions for people whose pregnancies result from rape or incest and people who doctors determine face life-threatening pregnancy complications-but as Common Dreams has reported, such exceptions have led medical providers to withhold care until a patient is sufficiently ill, placing them in danger."
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As a nurse who believe in women’s reproductive and abortion rights, I will never work for any states banning abortion. Abortion is a privacy matter between the woman, her family, and doctor. Politicians need to stay out. Her body, her choice.
Republicans' have stuffed their hands so far up the uterus of a women, that the woman can now ask for rent money.
#NotHerBody k-illed in an abortion - you know that, right?
I'm with u woman. And all women who believes in freedom of to do whatever u want with your own bodies.
I HATE THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT WING WITH PASSION AND ANY PERSON WORLD WIDE WHO WANTS AND THINKS THEY CAN CONTROL PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW.
ANY OF THESE ASSHOLES COME NEAR ME? TWO OPTIONS.
KEELHAULED OR FEED EM' TO MY FRIENDS 🐷🐷🐷🐷FARM.
@@AbdulKhader-786 Then rapists who cause pregnancy in an unconsenting woman should also get the death penalty. They FORCED a baby into her.
I put in actual effort to never do business with anyone in a state with these laws. There's gong to be a ton of unintended consequences from them (brain drain from educated people moving away, work force drain from anyone who can move doing so, existing businesses not establishing factories or offices in them and putting their existing employees at risk, etc) anyway, and I want to play my part. I want to make sure I never give a dime to anyone who supported those absurd laws.
Abortion is a *human right.* Simple as that 🤷🏻♂️
Killing a baby is the antithesis of a "human right."
@@poontang1194 why you ppl fake like you care for kids only to misuse them and starve them and groom and rape them. Straight men🤡
Doctors can Afford to ReLocate. Mothers Stuck in these Dominionist Oppressor States Suffer. ...
Freedom From Religion !!
Foundation 🌞 FFRForg
Republicans will soon categorize women as "non-human beings", therefore stripping ALL of their rights.
Abortion is healthcare
If they act early, they can be sued for unjustified termination of the pregnancy, be fined, maybe imprisoned, and lose their license for not letting the mother get sick enough. If the woman gets too sick and is damaged or dies, the doctor can be sued for negligence and lose their license.
Why would an obstetrician stay in the state?
Even after the heartbeat of a fetus stops, doctors (and hospitals) are being forced to wait for weeks until the mother is in septic shock and near death before operating to remove the fetus that is poisoning her.
Exactly.
It's not even safe to be pregnant in one of those states anymore.
Not at all. Which is why there will be a massive population drain over there next ~10 years. Women, drs, clinicians, researchers, other people with bright prospects, etc will start fleeing the states in record numbers. And businesses looking to expand won't put offices or factories in those states and risk the safety of their existing employees. It's a cartoon clusterfuck, and the poorest in those states are gong to be the ones paying the highest price over the next decade.
It never was Stephen. Wake up! You men really are so behind on this issue. They don’t see us as anything else but white baby makers. Farm animals basically. And if we die or get sick - dump us and get another one.
Don't forget that, in Idaho, if the parent's religious belief includes faith healing, a child can be denied medical care on religious grounds, even if it kills them.
So much for caring about children.
I thought that was Alaska, 😆. "When a kid dies of child abuse, oh well. Think of all that money you'll save." 👿
Why bother having kid's??
Soon all pregnancies will be treated at your local prisons. Thank conservative voters for inventing the hospital-to-prison pipeline.
That's actually a perfect way to put it. "Hospital to prison pipeline." That's horrifyingly accurate smh 🤦🏾♀️
@@Indyawillis85 absolutely brilliant! All the red states can advertise for anti abortion doctors that way. 👍👍👍👍
Yep, sadly spot on 😥
So many normal things can go wrong with a pregnancy that people will start getting locked up for very soon.
For profit prisons! There was always a plan!
@@scots_knight4706 most abortions have nothing to do with a woman's life being endangered from a pregnancy. Don't you at least agree money is a horrible excuse k!ll a child - born or unborn?
My Abortion at 17 years old saved me from a life of abuse, neglect, depression, and possibly even death! My ex became abusive after we discovered I was pregnant, and the day he tried to hit me with brass knuckles I decided enough was enough. I told my mom I was pregnant and needed an abortion. My parents supported my decision, and thankfully I was able to escape that relationship.
Are you saying that if you gave birth to a child and then your partner started ab using you that it needs to be OK to kill your child to escape the relationship?
@@mathildeyoung1823 You clearly have no idea what it's like to be in the position I was in and you obviously are not my OBGYN. Therefore, your opinion about whether my abortion was necessary, is mute. Until both of these are true, I care 0% what you say because NOTHING--and I mean literally NOTHING--you say will ever change my mind or feelings towards the decision I made between my provider, my parents, and myself! I have lived a very happy life since then, and I did escape. We was threatening my life, my family's lives, and I surely was not going to continue a pregnancy with a person that said he was going to kill me. No way! Now I have a beautiful family, and I love love love my children with my loving husband!!!
If teens aren't qualified or mature enough to adopt a baby then why are they being forced to have a baby?
So there will be More in the system to traffic as the church and red swamp republicans can abuse remain the predators they all are. Demons need their feeding too🤫
They are not being forced to raise a baby.
@Bonnie Bucks Bar I didn't say they are being forced to raise a baby. I said they are being forced to have a baby.
Also, what's the alternative? Give the baby up to an overloaded and underfunded fostercare system that is notorious for abuse and neglect?
@@HackModNerd People who adopt a baby are going to *raise* the baby. Your comparison doesn’t work, that’s the point I was making.
@@jskyler7 And what about the babies that don't get adopted?
If this keeps up: ALL doctors in Idaho should leave, medical students; avoid Idaho and other similar states at all costs
that would be great but Americans can hold to a protest to save their lives they cant look at France and do what they are doing since they don't have the balls
Actually, they are already doing that ! 👎
Nothing says freedom like taking it away from those who don't agree with you.
Pretty sick that some equate freedom with having the ability to k-ill a vulnerable human being to make their life easier.
@@mathildeyoung1823 Only if you're an idiot. Freedom doesn't exist in any fashion if people don't have dominion over their own bodies first. More than that, these asinine laws are expected to kill more than one million more women annually, because they were written so broadly that doctors can barely do anything without risking their licenses, careers, and possible time in jail. In what brain dead universe does that equate to freedom for medical professionals? Women with high risk pregnancies? Or the 10 year old little girls we've already seen being forced to carry to term in at least two of these garbage states?
You assholes understand freedom about as well as you understand anything else, it seems. Nothing more than bumper sticker bullshit.
It's not close to death, I have dealt with multiple pregnant women who have gone septic due to non-viable pregnancy. They show up initially and are discharged out and told "come back when you show signs of sepsis". At that point they are beyond treatment and usually die. If they are lucky the pt will just be sterile. These are married women not the single mothers that the supposed " christians" claim to be.
Absolutely *nothing* good comes from these laws. A bunch of brain dead garbage feels better about themselves, but real women suffer tremendously under these laws.
I remember seeing a video before Roe was actually killed off, talking about how many women were at increased risk from the SCOTUS leak alone.
All these anti abortion laws do is put more than one million women a year at increased risk of death during pregnancy. In a country that already had piss poor maternal mortality rates going in. If I were a woman, or even a decent human being stuck in one of those garbage states, I'd be doing everything possible to get the hell out before I risk becoming part of that growing number of unintended victims.
What a sad situation-we are going backwards so quickly!
@@brendathosath3983 but wait there's more dumbassery. Since some medications jeopardize pregnancies some women who are older or even tweens for FCK sake have been forced to go on birth control... They're making women jump another hoop for healthcare and billing and theyre screwing over tweens who take these medicines (arthritis ulcers, etc)
And sometimes they lose their uterus,... or die. I've met the widowers. Your experience is not everybody's experience.
"We doubled down on not understanding science, we've declared our hostility toward medical professionals and women, and we criminalized these people for doing their jobs. Wow, we did it! Three cheers, a great day for Ida- wait, where's everyone going?"
To all states that are banning abortion, please send your very best doctors who don’t want to go to prison to states like Massachusetts or others that actually want women to have good health care, and you will be honored here, paid well, and not sent to prison! Please flee the red states that want to imprison you before they do exactly that!
I agree. They will be welcomed in Nevada as well.
Let's make sure we also help women in red states get abortions as well. Communication is universal and free. If you want to help in other ways, donate to organizations that will help provide for reproductive rights.
@@PerryIceFire
Hate to say it, but in Texas communication about abortion, any communication that might help the woman, can lead to immense lawsuits. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Texas is planning right now to, somehow make it illegal for people from other states to help women in Texas from across the border on the phone or on chat or on RUclips or by letter or any other way of communicating
@@PerryIceFire lol, nope, I dont give a single shit about people in red states. they allowed this, they can suffer through it. Or do what any rational person would, which is leave.
And Kansas 👍
To make things worse: Often what happens when a woman reports rape is awful. Officers tend to consider her guilty of lying until proven innocent and then proceed in to interrogate her in this matter, trying to get her to admit her lie. I know that things have improved in these matters in a lot of places, but not everywhere.
I agree with you except for one part, I don't think "things have improved in these matters." I think that women who are victims of rape still face slander, character assassination, and vilification. From what I've seen of the courts, men are believed and/or excused for their actions, and women are not believed.
Women who die due to pregnancy complications, their family should sue the government in the millions. If people in states can sue a Dr. or a person who's helped or had an abortion. Then people should be allowed to sue the government over their screwed up laws
I didn't vote for my representative to be my doctor. Stay in your lane.
Well I'm not surprised! If I had a job that I could do anywhere like a physician can, why would I want to live in a state like that?
The entire US medical system is so broken... Up here in Canada, no such issues exist anywhere in our country. We get lots of physicians moving here, where doctors cannot be sued for malpractise, so they don't need ridiculously expensive insurance. And abortion is legal everywhere, of course. I can't believe how screwed up your little country has become.
Sodom and Gomorrah of the North.
Trust me, we can't either. It's depressing. We can't stand each other.
@@poontang1194 says a guy named poon tang, without a hint of irony
Little Country? Don't down play it.
Lack of education and deep state conservative talk radio and churches is why!
I can't help but wonder what Idaho will do if all of their Gynocologistes and Obstitions leave the State and there is NO Maternal care.
They will pass laws that criminalize leaving the state for meternal care, probably.
The same thing that happened in the 70s. More and more women will die gruesome deaths and that's what it will take for the tide to turn again.
Invest in funeral homes and cemeteries. Dying women will be highly profitable for those who care more about a make-believe "child" than a living, breathing person.
Those kind of people don't care about health at all. They would rather have women without health care than abortions.
They are the Taliban of the west.
When you elect people that base their entire existence on 2000 year old fairy tales, stupid things will begin to happen.
@@marcosolo6491 religion is the greatest threat to the survival of the human race.
Stupid things already are happening! Women are willing and heartless enough to kill their own offspring and yes it is based on a 2000 year old (as you put it) "fairy tale".
Yeah, I don't blame doctors for not wanting to help. This will just increase the issues that women already have.
This back sliding into the 1800's is absolutely revolting.
Lawmakers practicing medicine without a license.....ARREST THEM!
Honestly, women in anti-abortion states should start suing, and saying something more often. The public needs to know the truth straight from the civilians.
5 women are in Texas atm
@Tammy love The 5 women in Texas is a good effort. However, if we have more than 5, we can get more information on what's going on in other anti-abortion states, and people see that more women and people are fighting back the state legislators abortion bans.
@@PerryIceFire absolutely 👍🏼
I think they should be more concerned with convicting the people who ejaculated where they weren’t wanted ..
A friend of mine was planning a holiday over in the US for this year but recently found out that she was pregnant. Her and her husband had been trying for a long time and sadly they suffered 2 miscarriages. Now after Roe V Wade being overturned they have cancelled their plans. They were both extremely worried about having a problem with the pregnancy while over there. Here in the UK they know that if any problems were to arise putting the unborn child or the mothers life at risk they would get the best care possible without the Doctors and Hospital worrying about the Government interfering. It is disgusting that the country that boasts about being the freest on earth can dictate what a woman can do with her own body. I am sick thinking about how many women will have to suffer needlessly because a room full of geriatric men decided to interfere in the law.
tell them to stay there.
Urwomansfantasy OK i will tell them to stay in England where they will get World Class Treatment and afterwards will leave the Hospital with just a Goodbye rather than a BILL for Thousands and Thousands of $$$$. I don't think it will be that much of a let down.
@@colleenburns5827 👍
I don't blame your friend at all for canceling her plans, it's just getting crazy here in the US. Besides since she has already had two miscarriages it's probably better if she didn't travel
That's unfortunate that they had to cancel their plans, but I agree. It's for the best. I'm in America and so many of us are hurting over here. This country is in real bad shape. I hope the best for your friend and her husband- I hope they have a baby!! 🌻
They say "Abortion is murder"; unless it's a Right Wing politician. Then, they had to do it because their Mistress would have ruined their career or (if female Republican) they should be allowed to be the exception.. How could you punish them?
If they're criminalizing abortion in all circumstances, then criminalizing miscarriage must surely follow, and if you have an ectopic pregnancy, leave the state or face certain death. Wow. Just wow. WA state is right next door, luckily, and Idahoans are welcome here
Seattle native here and I concure.
Why? They voted for it. You think these jackaloons would get elected if at least some women were voting for them? I've seen the returns from ID. Those ID Republicans win with 60-90% of the vote. Women vote for these clowns. Those women just never thought it would happen to them.
There have *absolutely* been women who were arrested after a miscarriage. And the bans effects with regards to ectopic (and similar) pregnancies alone mean upwards of another potential 1 million more dead women in the US every year. And we weren't exactly doing great with those maternal mortality numbers even before all those bans hit.
Miscarriage is a natural death. Like SIDS or cancer in a born child. No one has criminalized SIDS and Cancer.
Nice attempt at fear mongering to try to justify ALL abortions.
It's so simple... If you do not believe in abortion, don't get one.
How can I possibly live a quiet and productive life knowing that there are others that exist that aren't like me in every single way?
Vote Republican to have those disgusting people removed from society. /s
The GQP have done everything in their power to criminals doctors and teachers. Those two careers are hard to fill when things are normal, but they are nearly impossible.
The GOP is a garbage party for garbage people. Period, full stop.
Ob/gyns and midwives, fearful of being accused of terminating a pregnancy when there is for instance a stillbirth, and losing their licence to practice and their livelihoods; then, how many technicians will throw up their hands and say there’s no point in doing ultrasounds, perhaps finding a deathly abnormality that in a sane world would action an abortion only to leave the poor woman totally desperate or needing to get out of town and access proper care elsewhere, so those professions will head to a blue state as well.
Those states with their blanket bans may end up with a higher birth rate, including births of infants that are in dire need of medical intervention on an ongoing basis and so are either a burden on the state to provide that care, or are left with their unwilling mothers to die or live in medical poverty.
But, there would also be a rise in maternal deaths due to insufficient facilities and staff to care for them, or women who cannot afford medical care any more than they can afford to support a child, will just die due to undiagnosed pregnancy-related issues.
And then there’s the issue with how many businesses will depart those states due to not being able to find staff willing to live in a state with repressive laws? How many military bases will take themselves and their personnel to a state where those people will be willing to work? Even soldiers get pregnant, or their family members, and then there’s the transgender angle, because red states don’t like them any more than they like women.
Think of all that lost revenue, all the ancillary businesses that would have serviced the population that has up and gone elsewhere. All that lost income tax.
And what about the newly widowed men who now have to care for a newborn? Do they get paternity leave? Do they take their baby to work? Do they get a supporting parents pension?
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The fact that we are now not being able to deliver our children in safe environments with professional obgyn s, nurses etc bc they’re in fear of having legal action pressed against them bc of doing their jobs or having to remove dead or dying fetus from a mother womb is shocking & should be very much enough warrant to sue the state & Supreme Court. It’s terrifying to not know if my children’s (boy & girl) medical privacy can be used against them or me. It’s also extremely exhausting not knowing what future this leaves for their generation. I am pagan & usually I try to see the good in everyone & every religious faith. But how am I to tell a glass of water from a glass of poison if they both appear the same?
By your "logic" we need to get rid of all laws saying doctors can be sued... They panic during an amputation over fear of being sued and cut off the wrong leg - that has to mean no more lawsuits EVER against doctors...
Unborn children now have a better chance at a future - and that's a good thing.
Very well said. Wishing those in the profession All the Best...in an impossible situation..
I'm so lucky, in a way, to be old, and certainly not of a child bearing age...
Doctors and hospitals won't even operate on a mother with a fetus whose heartbeat stopped days ago for fear of criminal prosecution. These mothers are being forced to wait a month or more until the fetus has poisoned the woman to the point that she's in septic shock and close to death. Even then, some are fearful of taking steps to save her life and some of these unfortunate mothers don't make it. Those that do often have ongoing medical issues, and all have psychological repercussions
@@B_Bodziak it's the doctors fault then... If someone came into the ER with a gun wound to the leg and the doctor is like "I might need to amputate to save his life, but I could get sued when the guy wakes up if I made the wrong decision! Guess I'll just push the gurney to the door and go to the next patient cause I don't wanna get sued and lose my job"
@@mathildeyoung1823 No, it's the state's fault for such poorly written laws. They were too busy taking advice from quarter wit religious leaders instead of any medical professionals, and that left doctors in many states unable to do a damned thing until the dead fetus is literally ready to take its mother life. This started manifesting in some states within days of the trigger laws passing, and will inevitably result in more than a million more dead women annually. In a country that already had terrible maternity mortality rates to begin with.
Because some idiotic belief and brain dead faith always trumps medical expertise for those kinds of clowns. And the doctors aren't 'risking being sued', they're risking their medical license (that thing they spent multiple years and hundreds of thousands of dollars acquiring), and even time in jail every time they do something now deemed 'risky'. And if you lose your medical license before you can move away, there's no guarantee you'll be able to get it back again in another state, especially after any time in jail.
So their whole life's work could be for nothing if they made one wrong move in one of those garbage states, which is why so many of them are already moving elsewhere.
How can lawmakers decide what's wrong or right on medical procedures? My son is finally about to graduate from medical school after 11 years in college (he has a Master's in Molecular Biology) . How can a lawmaker know what should be done in different medical situations???
Congratulations to your son! What an amazing accomplishment!
it's not about knowledge or doing the right thing. It's about power.
Any woman or parents with daughters who can afford to should leave Idaho. It is the Afghanistan of America.
It's the Taliban that like to k-ill vulnerable human beings. That make abortionists more like the Taliban.
There's Tennessee, Floriduh, Texas and just about all red states.
@@lynnebarrett9912 I'd rather live in Texas than California... Many businesses in Cali think the same and have moved to Texas
When human health is politicized with no one to defend medical professionals accept a lawyer, I'd leave too.
"You have to let this fertilized egg grow inside of you because I care more about it than I do about you." - Republicans talking to pregnant women
'Birthing person' you bigot!
Precisely
Right up until it is born. Then i don't give a f***.
Ban Viagra & make it law that the father is financially responsible until the child is 18. I bet those creepy old men would rethink it a bit
UK has 10 000 doctor vacancies free , so plenty of work and they wont put doctors in jail .
This is one of the reasons that I am trying to leave Idaho
Come to Nevada. You will be welcome.
Come on over to the Oregon Coast! 🥰 It's wonderful here!
@Ingrid Malik-Connor I am trying to move to a different state like Nevada and I have the money to support myself but it is very difficult to find a place when you don't even have a job lined up there which is a requirement to rent an apartment and it is very difficult because many out of state employers are only looking to hire people who live in the area
Flee the madness! Leave all the Republican cesspool
@@GamerNate30 Good luck - perhaps you can team up with other "blues"...
Declining birth rate. Well, raising a child is a luxury many of us can no longer afford. I can't afford a pat anymore either. 700 A month for health insurance. 1500 for rent. Utilities, transportation, food, clothing......who TF can afford themselves anymore, let alone another person?
My parents voted republican my whole life. I had the choice of kids or pets. I have pets. Wonderful dogs. They’ll get no grandchildren and when they ask when they’re getting grandchildren I tell them “You voted them away a long time ago.”
I can barely afford to take care of myself. I will never have children.
@@jenniferr9624 65 and childfree - zero regrets. I highly recommend it.
I live in Mississippi. I want to know who is going to pay for all of these babies that are going to be born. These governors don't give a damn about our children!! It's disgusting.
Wow.. so you promote abortion for poor people who WANT to keep their babies. so sad
@@mathildeyoung1823 On the contrary, you are sad.
@@mathildeyoung1823 why do you care what other people do with their own bodies?? It cost zero f*cking dollars to find your own gd business. 🙄
@@cheesehead4670 Should child endangerment be legal then? Because that's a man or a woman doing something with their own body - i.e. walking away from a child and leaving them to die... you see, child endangerment and abortion are not about someone doing something with their own body - they are about harming or k-illing the body of ANOTHER human being. I hope that helps you understand why abortion needs to be illegal.
It should ALWAYS be a womans right to decide whether she wants an abortion or not.
On 24 October 1975, Icelandic women went on strike for the day, no cooking, no laundry ,no looking after the kids all this left for the men to do. this "demonstrated the indispensable work of women for Iceland's economy and society" . TIME TO STRIKE for your rights .🥂
leave it all for the men to do until your rights are restored 🥳
Highly skilled physicians are not scared of not getting job elsewhere. Who the hell would want to work in a state where they can't freely practice? My advice is to leave these states asap.
this is the answer. your state starts taking rights? leave.
The majority of eggs that get fertilized don't attach to the uterine wall and a law that says life begins at fertilization makes almost all adult women murderers. Think about that.
very true but they don't care about that of course because they don't actually care about life.
Actually, they should indict god, since that quarter of all pregnancies are spontaneous miscarriages
But guys are mass murders when they self-pleasure. To the gallows!
The hanmaids Tale was intended as a warning - not a guide....
As with _Mein Kampf_ , they see it as a playbook.
Why is everyone in control of healthcare besides healthcare professionals??
This so hilariously funny and sad at the same time. This is what happens when you live in an idiocracy.
Who would've thought that banning abortion wasn't so black and white? Gee wizz!
Your politicians are banning books too to keep the population stupid so it’s easy to control you. Look at trump and his sheeps.
Thats almost the exact same words trump said re his health plan.. that he never produced.
If they start calling school shootings, late term abortions, the right might be compelled to do something about them! #LuckytobbeanAustralian
Sad lol.
I'm a doctor in the UK, this is insane to me.
Talk about going back to the middle ages, where women didn't know anything about their chances of a healthy baby until it happened, and where - due to a lack of care - tons of women died during or after birth or even before due to illnesses having to do with their reproductive systems. This is what Republians want - they want the middle ages back.
Hell, tons of women died in childbirth even in the 1800’s and early 1900’s. Until we figured out how to do reliable blood transfusions, delivering babies was really risky.
Remember when Ron DeathSantis passed a law that allows veterans to become teachers without entrance testing or a four-year degree?
Maybe Idaho can do the same thing with the doctor shortage, just recruit veterans without medical summer.
Yes let republicans treat other republicans would love to see the outcome
The _REAL_ cost of these restrictions, beyond the political losses or anything else--which pale in comparison, will be *ACTUAL* human lives. And not just the obvious ways either, i.e., severe medical emergency (which childbirth is, at its heart) + no doctors for hundreds of miles = skyrocketing mortality rates, and an increase in back alley abortions gone wrong, but also deaths of despair possibly by those who are victims of sexual assault and abuse now being forced to carry to term, further disadvantaging them to now have to care for result of that abuse and also ironically facing the very severe medical emergency that increases their chance of dying anyway given no doctors. It's a vicious cycle that is going to get people killed--doing the exact opposite of what they claim they are trying to prevent. And this isn't even counting all the babies that won't be born because people are going to straight up do everything to avoid getting pregnant in the first place. Why put yourself at risk in the first place if your chances at surviving the ordeal have been significantly diminished?! Good job red states, way to be pro-life.
They don't care. Alaska's David Eastman says its financially good if abused children die, it saves the public the costs of caring for them.
@@mamatrain100 demonic statements
Exactly, and Republicans want to claim that Liberals live in a fairy-tale land. What do you call abstinence-only sex-ed and "adoption is a choice" rhetoric, it's a god damn fairy tale. We live in a complicated world where people struggle to take care of themselves let alone another human because of poor mental health or poverty where women and children get pregnant because they were raped. Where the majority of children put up for adoption never get adopted unless they are able to get into the system under the age of 2 and then it is only 62% of those babies that actually get adopted before that happens. We live in a world where there are medical complications that come with pregnancy, that can kill you. It's not pretty a lot of the time but human nature is never even close to perfect.
Bingo not to mention with people with situations like ours. I was 23 when I had my daughter. She was born with lack of oxygen from a placental abruption & umbilical entanglement. My body went septic and I was extremely sick. Unfortunately it left our daughter with severe cerebral palsy. Our system is a joke, let alone supporting kids like ours. We never put our child into an institution and still care for her ourselves at home. One most people cannot even afford to do so and second most would not. I can't imagine how many more kids with disabilities will be turned into the state. These kids are rarely adopted and suffer greatly with no loving homes. I was lucky I didn't die at 23 from being pregnant. Some women's bodies cannot handle pregnancy well, and mine is one. This younger generation can barely take care of themselves, hence don't want the responsibility of raising kids. And the horror stories I know from people adopting, because they couldn't get pregnant. Many times the women don't bond with the adopted babies and I know two male friends that were left with the responsibility of raising the adoptive kids alone. As you can imagine the kids now older are a mess and always in trouble in school. Not to mention, forcing meth heads, fetanayl users, and obese women procreating for our future population, doesn't exactly sound like a win/win for country's future citizens.
Tell me again how prolife republicans are when they could care less about children once they're born, no prenatal care, maternity paid time off, etc. The US is a 3rd world country when it comes to childbirth!!
Pro-life is a lie
Good for them !!!!
This should be what every doctor does in every state that bans abortion
Cenk hit the nail on the head calling Idaho a "Taliban State". I would suggest that all medical personnel there leave before the all the politicos and lawyers in that state come to jail you.
With narcissists, EVERYTHING is, "projection or confession".
Good for these physicians. They need to do this en masse and see how that goes over in these indigent red states.
It has been happening in a trickle across all these states for years already. They're going to discover what happens when the flood gates open, and they're not going to like it. They'll like how it all shapes their economy and population even less over the next few years.
We lost control over our bodies…now we lose our doctors and health care…..this is not normal…
You can control your body - but you cannot (or should not) harm or k-ill the body of ANOTHER innocent human being. That's why child abuse and abortion need to be illegal (just like the law telling you not to strike a child is not about controlling your body, neither is the law telling a man or a woman not to k-ill their unborn child).
@mathildeyoung1823 why?
@@mathildeyoung1823 Child abuse will skyrocket as more unwanted babies are born. Republicans are notorious for not spending on social programs to help with child and mother. It's not in their DNA.
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Nobody is killing unborn 'children'.
Stop being hysterical.
@@jaynecobb6711 The unborn child was alive before the abortion. Abortion k-ills a human being. That is a fact.
Another component of losing rural healthcare is that Red states refused to buy into the expansion of Medicaid enacted under the Affordable Care Act.
Poor people, who might have qualified for Medicaid, couldn’t get health insurance, leaving the economic burden of their care on the struggling hospitals.
Back when the ACA was passed, we knew that rural hospitals would go out of business if states did not expand their Medicaid programs.
Some rural states are so hard up for doctors and OBGYNs that whole regions aren't crossing babies anymore, even if abortion isn't illegal in them. Dedicated care has been fleeing rural areas for over a decade already, and this all guarantees that's only going to get worse for the foreseeable future. It's disgusting.
A pregnant woman must be forced to give birth so the child can grow old enough to become the latest victim of gun violence in schools and in public spaces. 🤔
Once you become pregnant you are not considered a human but a vessel and the vessel has no rights except those that dr politician says they may have.
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There was recently a woman in Texas pregnant with twins, one was determined unviable in vitro. She had to go to Colorado to be treated with a partial "abortion". Texas wouldn't allow her to be treated. It's horrible! Women that can't afford to go to another state are at risk of dying.
Next time you write a fairy tale in a YT thread, try and also make up some details other than "recently a woman."
@@georgeglass3680 You are clearly uninformed. The saddest part... this absolutely true and she isn't the only one.
@@georgeglass3680 Here you go dumba$$.
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@@georgeglass3680this is true and she is one of the five women suing the state of Texas, all who had non viable pregnancies and had to wait until they were near death before an abortion was performed.
@@georgeglass3680 This story is confirmed. Miki Meek, the interviewer of Dr. Huntsberger for her podcast, talked to two OB-GYNs - one had just left Texas, the other, Tennessee. One of them had to send a patient to another state in an ambulance. It was a five-hour ride. The patient's blood pressure was rising, and by the time she got to a hospital, her kidneys were starting to fail. The other doctor had to turn away a patient pregnant with twins. One of the twins was going to die and the doctor needed to intervene to save the other's life, but he couldn't because of the laws.
I bet that women who are forced to have their rapist's babies will also be forced to co-parent with the rapist. Utterly disgusting.
Forced marriage is next.
@@clydecash5659yeah they're trying to get rid of no fault divorce.
No, states have laws where woman can sever parental ties in that case. Nice try at fear mongering to try to justify ALL abortions though
@@mathildeyoung1823 That's a bullshit lie and you know it. In many states, rapists are granted visitation rights and even joint custody. I know this for a fact because I know two different women who are forced to allow their rapists to see their kids. And yes, both rapists were tried and convicted of rape. This is after they served time and were released from prison.
Nice try at bullshit lies to try to justify forcing rape victims to endure the further trauma of carrying and giving birth to their rapist's baby. You're not pro-life, you're just heartless.
No, because the rapist will be in prison.
When Atwood wrote The Handmaid's Tale I thought it was too farfetched to make good fiction. I was so naive.
Accidentally getting pregnant doesn't make you a Handmaid.
Christian fundamentalists seek to create a dystopia far worse than anything in fiction.
idaho is a cesspit of empty land
How to become a third world state within the richest nation on earth.
Legislating religious beliefs is the most unpatriotic thing anyone can do.
Separation of church and state. Republicans are cheating by using their beliefs and ideologies by merging the two.
Separation of church and state was never a thing and Republicans don't even pretend anymore to care about it.
Let republicans deliver at home. Let every doctor leave Idaho. They asked for it, give it to them.
If they can afford it at all. On the other hand, those states are more dependent on welfare.
Good maybe this will wake people up and realize that banning abortion is a bad thing
I still haven't figured out why anyone would vote republican.
@@deez3913 At least we're not bigots.
@@deez3913 no, but all republicans are dangerously ignorant of reality.
@@coasterblocks3420 To put it another way: they're dumd as f*ck!
What did the idiots think would happen? Why would doctors practise there?
repus don't think "it doesn't feel right".
Streets will be over-run with unhoused kids and it will cause more problems.
That’s what I’m saying … like, what’s their objective with this plan?
The most moronic argument keep being brought up is that abortion kills black babies and its like... isn't that what you want? Less kids born into poverty that worsen the conditions of that child and the parents?
Among Basic Human Rights,
Privacy. Privacy in Healthcare Reproduction and Family Planning, Privacy in Religious avoidance, Belief, or Free Will Choice, Privacy in Bodily Autonomy.
Also among Basic Human Rights, The Humane Basics: affordable housing, transportation, education, healthcare, childcare, food security,clean water, air, and soil, Actual Cost of Living Wages and Benefits, Cost of Living Retirement and extenuating circumstances funding, ( disability, displacement, illness and yes, also Pregnancy, full coverage & Wages, for Mothers and Children) !
The Service Sector Economy literally underpins Everything else.
We can afford Humane Community Accountability and Social Responsibility!
Business and Government is meant to Serve Humanity, Humanity does Not exist to Serve Corporate Government Oligarchy, & Narrative masquerading as Democracy.
Humane, Fair Play Democracy, Now! Political Policy that elevates the General Welfare of The People above and before Corporate Government.
what about all the seriously disabled and sick kids born that will require extensive expensive lifelong care that would have otherwise been aborted?
I hope people begin to "connect the dots": Esp. poor women/poor kids having more babies - what's their end game?
I'll tell you what their end game is - as a few others have noted - poor street kids... Those poor kids and poor women and families will be the new supply for - child labor, and little, if any wages for them, and their family members; a new supply for human/ child sex trafficking (necrophilia is a big draw for those sicko types); a new supply for "cannon fodder".
Here's an example: In ~ 2010, Sarah Cunningham, Republican (of course) of Missouri proposed that the child labor laws be greatly LOOSENED. However, at that time, that sub human's proposal met with great opposition, and rightly so.
If a sleaze would propose laws that that now, I'm wondering if they would pass, instead of being rejected; people seem to be more stupid by the month in those red neck states.
It really is not far anymore to the ban of medical treatment for females in general in some states. Disgusting.
So let me get this straight.
Doctors in Idaho cannot deliver babies because of the abortion ban and because the Republicans do not know the difference between an abortion and trying to save a mother and a baby from dying during the birthing process? If the baby is breech or suffocating because the cord is wrapped around it's neck, then medical interference is needed. How is saving the life of a mother and a baby considered an abortion? That's a good way for a mother to die and then she won't be able to reproduce which is another drop in the birthing rate.
Now onto the doctors and nurses who work OB/GYN. If they can't deliver babies, then that's a he'll of a lot less of pay for them. I was going to say that if they can't deliver babies, then they would be out of a job, but they would have to see the patients on a monthly basis.
So, what are we supposed to do? Go home, make bread, gather the eggs, milk the cow, then squat in a field to give birth, like this is freakin' "Little House on the Prarie," which is a great show by the way, or "Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman?"
The Republicans want us to give birth, yet they also want us to die before, during, or after childbirth. Make up my mind, Republicans.
I can't believe that the Idaho Supreme Court would even allow this. This sounds kind of fishy, to a sense. If Republicans want children bad enough, then they would see to it that the woman would get the best care possible, even if it means doing a cesarean section on a baby who is choking on the cord wrapped around it's neck. Go figure.
They think it's the handmaids tale..
A lot more people are cruel than most people believe. Those people are called conservatives.
I predicted this years ago. Young doctors will not choose to practice in these red states.
For the record (not that they care), when I hear someone say that abortion should be banned even in cases of rape and incest, I ALWAYS assume that they are rapists or wannabe rapists. If they haven't done it yet, it's just because they haven't had the opportunity. People who understand why rape is bad don't need these things explained to them.
Yeah, what if a woman goes into labor earlier than 9 months. Could that be considered to be an abortion?
Its been criminally charged that way already.
A miscarriage is also known as a spontaneous abortion. Food for thought
It could put a woman, who has a late miscarriage, in the position of being put on trial and having to prove it was not an abortion.
I don't understand how people have a right to tell other people what to do, what to read, what to learn. If you don't like it, don't participate.
It hurts their feelings if the whole world doesn't do everything their way. Ugh
laws tell people what to do (or not do) all the time.
Slave owner from when slavery was legal "Don't like slavery, don't get a slave! You have no right to tell me what to do. It's all about me, me, me, me, me, me OH and me!"
I don’t blame the doctors for leaving Idaho. If you’re treating a patient and you interpret the law wrong. Or you know the law is wrong to begin with. You don’t want to have the liability, why would you be a doctor especially a OB/GYN in the state of Idaho.
Right
When the hell did our reality become 'the handmaids tale"??????
I like the woman who wrote the book. But from the day it was published I wished she had never written it.
She saw what would happen but did not make this happen!
Why are these legislatures not being sued for practicing medicine without a license? Where are the AMA, hospital systems and who ever insures these doctors?
What? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
@@lynnebarrett9912Thanks. Probably due to my not rechecking auto corrections. It is illegal to practice medicine without a license. The state legislatures are doing that for both women and Trans citizens. The American Medical Association, hospital systems in these states and the physician insurance companies should sue the states' legislatures and Governors (if they did not veto this medical legislation). Unless one is a medical doctor of course.
And (related topic,) how does an abortion drug, that has been safely used for twenty years, come under the authority of one Texas judge who may be able to make that drug illegal over all the country, even in states where abortion is legal? Approved by the FDA, a Federal agency tasked with approving medicine based on safety and efficacy? Man, we need to change some laws to reset the balance of power between the branches of government.
@@ariasiriuscouldbe9457 The am way citizen rights and liberties are being removed. Fascism's legal stage.
Idaho. Politically backward and nuts in so many ways. I left 5 years ago and haven't regretted it for a second.
I knew it was coming down to this just like teachers are walking off their teaching jobs and going into private schools and tutoring as well as going back to college to obtain degrees in other profession.
GQP doesn't care. Barefoot and pregnant. Have that baby in the kitchen while you're fixing dinner women.
I want to hear more nuanced arguments for pro-choice, from men not just women. There are many reasons why women and couples decide to terminate a pregnancy. Tell our stories. I am 100% pro choice. I had an abortion when I was young. But not for health reasons, but financial and social. I was living in a far away country, in poverty, no security and in a bad relationship. There was no way I wanted to subject a child to that kind of life, and I was so down on myself at the time I couldn't see a way out. I acted out of love and although it was a hard decision, I have never regretted it.
There are 1,000,000's of different stories and reasons why people choose not to continue with a pregnancy. There are 1,000s of young women who can't afford to be pregnant - even if the baby is adopted. Many are kicked out of home and forced to live on the streets. This is a social problem - not just a women's health issue. Removing a feutus is NOT murder. It is NOT killing a baby. But banning abortion kills women.
Tell our stories
The thing is there is no common sense or ryme or reason to any of what passes as logic to these right wingers. They will read your story and to them you are a baby killer and should be in prison. All the logic and common sense in the world does no good when they can just say you and your woke thinking is the problem.
The problem is that the pro life side doesn't care. It's only about making you live the way they do because they don't approve. They will never care until the situation happens in their lives.
There are 1,000s of teenage girls when forced to carry to terms will have their mother hormones kick in during the pregnancy & not be able to give their babies up for adoption & will live on the street with a newborn. The decision to abort is never made lightly. And if all the Pro lifers were truly conservative, they would realize that the government has no business telling anyone what medical procedure to have. If you want to eliminate abortion raise your daughter right, raise your niece right, & keep the government out of it.
The GOP doesnt give a damn about life. Its just to convince simpletons to get their vote. If the GOP was pro life, gov healthcare would be the main talking point since 45k Americans die every year from lack of healthcare.
Before Roe v Wade - back alley abortions
After Roe v Wade overturned - back alley births
*Back alley births and abortions
Politicians need to keep their noses out of other peoples business.
So no more laws EVER then is what you are saying...
Politicians show great interest in women and their bodies
- just not so much when it comes to protecting them!
We need to push legislation that bans all medication to treat erectile dysfunction! That is where those old male lawmakers' brains are located!
How about all women just start to refuse having sex. Its too dangerous at this point. It might just be fun for men, but at this point it might actually endanger your life as a woman. With stuff like stealthing on a rise, this is such a dangerous time to be a female.
LYSISTRATS UNITE!
Did you miss the part about incest and rape , Republicans want to be able to force you to have their child !
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The right wants the death penalty for the rapist. The left wants the death penalty for the innocent.
@@georgeglass3680 Bullshit. They don't even test most rape kits and the right blames the woman anyway. They'll just make a law that says she'll have to marry him like it says in that stupid Bible and swear up and down they have a higher authority that says it's a good idea.
This is great. I’m glad the doctors are leaving these fascist states.
Idaho GQP has implemented Shari'a law.
Hypocrisy isn't a problem for them.
How many women have died as a result of "pro-life" laws? How many children have died?
1. I would leave state if I was a doctor
2. Clearly women voted against their own interests or didn't vote in Idaho. .. It's on them ..
Oncologist; Yes congress person you have cancer but, its only stage two, so its too soon to determine if an operation is needed because you aren't sick enough yet.
Congress person; what do I do then?
Oncologist; nothing, come back when you're stage four and we'll offer you some treatment.
This is Perfection
Brilliant!
I was appalled with the number of female politicians viewed saying horrific things about abortions even in rape or incest.
Unintended consequences ..... careful what you wish for .
Why are the anti-abortion fanatics taking and taking and not giving? I want to see a certain percentage of men agreeing to getting a vasectomy. I want to see birth control pills showing up free in women's mailboxes every 30 days. I want women who give birth being paid to stay home and getting free food for a few years. Free medical care for mom and baby. STRICT child support enforcement from daddy! AND, I can think of about 100 other things handmaids should be getting.
They care very much about the birth part but once the baby is born they disappear like the deadbeat fathers they criticize.
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I can surely says that if that happens to a GOP senator's child, he/she would flip his/her decision very fast or like others go to other states to do an abortion where it is legal.
Unfortunately it will likely never happen to a wealthy GOP senator
You know what we noticed in Poland after the anti-abortionists international managed to hoodwinked our government into introducing an effectively total abortion ban in the whole country (despite Poland being one of the first countries to legalise abortion and where it was legal and accessible for ~ 70 years, and where the majority of people are pro-abo)? Abortion (illegal or abroad) cases stayed pretty much the same. Deaths and serious complications of pregnant/in labour women skyrocketed. Birth rates plummeted. In case you know someone who is at the same time atni-choice and anti-migrants ;).
That's why abortion in the UK was legalised in the first place. Banning abortion doesn't save babies. It kills women.
Why do people keep voting these people in???
because they are better than the politicians that support the k-illing of vulnerable human beings for convenience.
No because most people no longer think when they vote you could put a chimpanzee up for election if it was republican or democrat they would vote for it as long as it’s their party the us is facing the same problem Scotland faced with labour where the worst people for job where guaranteed for life as they will vote for you no matter what meaning many of them are the people you don’t trust with the milk money let alone the a state.
This is the expected "unintended consequences " of virulent abortion rules. No doctors want to be potentially jailed for providing needed women's health care.
Small town Idaho.....it's increasingly tough to live here as a woman.
If you can, leave. I'm pretty sure if all women left GOP controlled areas over their misogynistic policies that their tune will change crazy fast.
Well woman have been given the right to vote SO GET OUT AND VOTE BLUE!!!!!
What's all the fuzz about? Idaho, along with all the other Red States got EXACTLY what they (including women) voted for.
It might sound cold, but It's what they deserve. And it'll be a "lesson" they have to learn by themselves.
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There are still liberals caught over enemy lines, ddi they also deserve this?
And some babies will be born with serious disabilities (mental, intellectually and physically) with no care or support from the people that caused it.
Exactly 💯 I say the same about Chicago, San Francisco, New York City, and Los Angeles...
@@sandraspengler4740so you think 🤔 people born with mental or physical disabilities should be aborted. That's really fuckin' ablist you elitist scum.