I just ordered these today for my Ram 1500. We occasionally tow a 5700 lb travel trailer and as soon as I hook it up to the truck, it sags the back end. Can't wait to try these out. I almost bought the heavy duty springs and was going to change them out until I researched these. They look so simple to install vs. having to replace the springs. The springs are actually a few dollars cheaper, but a lot more work to do. If I end up not liking these, I will then change the springs. Anyway, great video and thanks for posting!!
@@jimschm Type in Timbren Suspension Enhancement System on a search engine. It will bring up plenty of places where you can buy one for your particular vehicle. I paid around $225 or mine about 5 months ago. I see they have gone up around $20 or so. Still, they are good in my Ram 1500. Took 15 minutes to install and the truck doesn't sag when I hook up my RV.
I'm having the BDS 3" Ram 1500 Rear Spring Mod & the SUMO SPRING SSR-407-47 1800lb installed on my Jeep Gladiator. After installing a RSI Smart Cap I had about an inch of sag in the rear due to the 270lb weight of the cap. I have JKS springs that was installed with my lift that wasn't heavy duty enough in the rear to support the cap. This is what the Jeep shop recommended to fix the issue.
If you don’t want air bags and each has pros & cons the Timbren bump stops work. although with some draw backs Wash board roads, expansion joints, speed bumps can be harsh even make the rear suspension kick the bed, lose tire contact with the road, even kick out on a curve etc. Try the Sumo neoprene springs. They accomplish the same goals only with a better transition and less draw backs. Either though if you have heavy tongue weight say 1,000 plus pounds possibly with more in the back of the bed should be used to compliment a WDH and not used in place of a WDH. Without a WDH to replace weight to the steer axle the Timbrens/sumos/air bags will after a point actually work to make the drive axle like a teater totter fulcrum to lift weight off the front of the truck. In which case sag becomes replaced with something worse. Anyway just fwiw info.
Great video. Thank you for putting this together. I’m Looking at Ram with both factory air ride Limited and Laramie with factory coil system. Nice to know this was successful if I go with Laramie.
Interesting approach to limiting sag. I've been towing travel trailers since the 80's. Currently on our 5th one. I would not dream of towing without a Weight Distribution/Sway control hitch. Just not worth the risk.
Air lift makes an air bag that goes inside your coil springs and can be adjusted for a better ride. These bump stops work but always give you a stiff ride even with out weight on your truck. Plus the air bags are half the price
I just installed the AirLift 1000HD bags. Easy install (aside from the inner fenders being a bear to remove and reinstall) and made a very positive difference in towing our 36 foot travel trailer.
Since the rear suspension flexes more easily than the front there's a guy that has a RUclips channel called tinkers off-road adventure and you should see what he does to improve off-road suspension balance on his Toyota FJ cruiser He actually stiffens the rear (with a really strong rear swaybar) since the front is so stiff to balance the suspension So even if you weren't pulling a trailer if you were going to off-road with this truck I think it would have better suspension balance if you had something like Sumo springs on the rear to be honest since the back is a solid axle in the front is independent suspension. It's a motion ratio thing.
This buy of this rubber stop is not the correct way to fix your issue. This buys you time until you fix the issue correctly. This is an accident waiting to happen. You hit multiple bumps in succession and your rear end can and will bounce around uncontrollable. If you are camping and spinning on a dirt road and hit a few holes, this can cause drive train issues with unnecessary back feed. with one inch of room before engaging is a mistake waiting to happen. What if you are using your bed just for a simple load of some fire wood, groceries, fencing material, hay or straw for your animals, hitting the bump stop will definitely be contentious and scary if you let your family member drives this machine who will be unfamiliar with the new driving characteristics. Air bags, or weight distribution hitch. Once again disappointed in your decision making. Be careful letting your family drive this vehicle now.
This kit is really no different than the "overload springs" that have been factory equipment as well as aftermarket add-ons to 3/4 and 1 ton trucks for decades. The only difference here is that they're rubber (more forgiving) instead of steel. The odds of damaging anything on the truck are extremely low.
I’ve had the Timbrens on my Ram for 2 years now. Absolutely no complaints whatsoever, it rides stock when unloaded and doesn’t sag too much when loaded. Very happy with them and the truck is absolutely safe and I trust my family in it 100%.
I've also purchased a cheap version of the timbrens which I will be receiving today I'm going to try them out but already have my eyes set on the sumo springs after watching a few videos I can tell they are better at reducing sag because they leave less of a gap than the timbrens they are pricey but would be worth every penny if they work as advertised
Good looking truck. Tasteful mods. My Limited has air suspension so I don't have to worry about sag. I love it!
Great videos. Always very informative. Thanks for sharing.
I just ordered these today for my Ram 1500. We occasionally tow a 5700 lb travel trailer and as soon as I hook it up to the truck, it sags the back end. Can't wait to try these out. I almost bought the heavy duty springs and was going to change them out until I researched these. They look so simple to install vs. having to replace the springs. The springs are actually a few dollars cheaper, but a lot more work to do. If I end up not liking these, I will then change the springs. Anyway, great video and thanks for posting!!
Do you have a link or the name of this product?
@@jimschm Type in Timbren Suspension Enhancement System on a search engine. It will bring up plenty of places where you can buy one for your particular vehicle. I paid around $225 or mine about 5 months ago. I see they have gone up around $20 or so. Still, they are good in my Ram 1500. Took 15 minutes to install and the truck doesn't sag when I hook up my RV.
Well done. Great video. Great explanation! Thank you.
I'm having the BDS 3" Ram 1500 Rear Spring Mod & the SUMO SPRING SSR-407-47 1800lb installed on my Jeep Gladiator. After installing a RSI Smart Cap I had about an inch of sag in the rear due to the 270lb weight of the cap. I have JKS springs that was installed with my lift that wasn't heavy duty enough in the rear to support the cap. This is what the Jeep shop recommended to fix the issue.
If you don’t want air bags and each has pros & cons the Timbren bump stops work. although with some draw backs Wash board roads, expansion joints, speed bumps can be harsh even make the rear suspension kick the bed, lose tire contact with the road, even kick out on a curve etc. Try the Sumo neoprene springs. They accomplish the same goals only with a better transition and less draw backs.
Either though if you have heavy tongue weight say 1,000 plus pounds possibly with more in the back of the bed should be used to compliment a WDH and not used in place of a WDH. Without a WDH to replace weight to the steer axle the Timbrens/sumos/air bags will after a point actually work to make the drive axle like a teater totter fulcrum to lift weight off the front of the truck. In which case sag becomes replaced with something worse. Anyway just fwiw info.
Great video. Thank you for putting this together. I’m
Looking at Ram with both factory air ride Limited and Laramie with factory coil system. Nice to know this was successful if I go with Laramie.
Interesting approach to limiting sag. I've been towing travel trailers since the 80's. Currently on our 5th one. I would not dream of towing without a Weight Distribution/Sway control hitch. Just not worth the risk.
Great video
Great video! Thank you!
excellent video, just bought Tieben
haven't installed yet
what if i added a 3 inch lift. would it still be effective to use?
It would be interesting to see a comparison if you later decide to give the Timbrens a try.
Tuff Truck TTC1223VT HD coil springs...look into it. Got them on my19 1500...no more sag!!
How do they ride with no load?
Do you have a part no. or link? I would like to try these for my ‘16 Ram 1500.
I put something similar on our 2014 ram 1500, they made the ride very harsh, and we still had trailer sway. I Switched to air lift 1000hd air bags.
Wondering if your truck at the time the video was released if it had a leveling kit in it already?
Air lift makes an air bag that goes inside your coil springs and can be adjusted for a better ride. These bump stops work but always give you a stiff ride even with out weight on your truck. Plus the air bags are half the price
I just installed the AirLift 1000HD bags. Easy install (aside from the inner fenders being a bear to remove and reinstall) and made a very positive difference in towing our 36 foot travel trailer.
Since the rear suspension flexes more easily than the front there's a guy that has a RUclips channel called tinkers off-road adventure and you should see what he does to improve off-road suspension balance on his Toyota FJ cruiser He actually stiffens the rear (with a really strong rear swaybar) since the front is so stiff to balance the suspension So even if you weren't pulling a trailer if you were going to off-road with this truck I think it would have better suspension balance if you had something like Sumo springs on the rear to be honest since the back is a solid axle in the front is independent suspension. It's a motion ratio thing.
I tried them and with trailer I could tell that chassis was constantly on axel, I'm going to change my springs out instead of airbags
How about 5 adults in the truck? Does it rest on the stop?
Do you have a link to the mudflaps you used?
I bought sheets of rubber from eBay and made them into mud flaps.
you bought a counterfeit? or it is same factory but unauthorized production? weird. it worked properly??
do you have link for buy it ??
This buy of this rubber stop is not the correct way to fix your issue. This buys you time until you fix the issue correctly. This is an accident waiting to happen. You hit multiple bumps in succession and your rear end can and will bounce around uncontrollable. If you are camping and spinning on a dirt road and hit a few holes, this can cause drive train issues with unnecessary back feed. with one inch of room before engaging is a mistake waiting to happen. What if you are using your bed just for a simple load of some fire wood, groceries, fencing material, hay or straw for your animals, hitting the bump stop will definitely be contentious and scary if you let your family member drives this machine who will be unfamiliar with the new driving characteristics. Air bags, or weight distribution hitch. Once again disappointed in your decision making. Be careful letting your family drive this vehicle now.
This kit is really no different than the "overload springs" that have been factory equipment as well as aftermarket add-ons to 3/4 and 1 ton trucks for decades. The only difference here is that they're rubber (more forgiving) instead of steel. The odds of damaging anything on the truck are extremely low.
I’ve had the Timbrens on my Ram for 2 years now. Absolutely no complaints whatsoever, it rides stock when unloaded and doesn’t sag too much when loaded. Very happy with them and the truck is absolutely safe and I trust my family in it 100%.
🙄 right…
Been driving my Jeep Gladiator with timbrens for 5 months now and now issues what so ever!! Best move ever!!
I've also purchased a cheap version of the timbrens which I will be receiving today I'm going to try them out but already have my eyes set on the sumo springs after watching a few videos I can tell they are better at reducing sag because they leave less of a gap than the timbrens they are pricey but would be worth every penny if they work as advertised
Talk way too much