@@andrealuisecandido1154 South Tyrol will never be italian. Yes, italians moved there but locals kept their traditions, their language and (to some extend) their will to fight. Italians on the other hand never really found a home in that german dominated area which is a good sign since they don't belong there. Go back where your roots are and where you're welcome. We don't need no occupiers.
Considering that Austria was the dominant power in the Holy Roman Empire for over 300 years, the real question should be: Why isn't Germany part of Austria?
because the austrians as HRE emperors had to defend the lesser german states, not conqur them, + if austria had tried to invade them, the german states would've likely allied and formed a coalition against austria. the austrians would be utterly outnumbered + such a coalition would attract france, as they were traditional rivals with austria, and would do anything for an opportunity to kick austrias butt.
Austria couldn't fight their way out of wet paper towel. Uncle Germany always saved them...Germany could have won WW1 if they didn't have to carry around the Habsburgs
Hello there from Germany. Thats an integral part of german History which you brought up here in english and which is a topic in every german school in history lessons .I'm very astonished that u made it to explain that within 7 minutes as it is a very complex topic. I didn't see any mistake in your explanation - keep up the good work :) You might could have gone a bit more in detail with the northern german and southern german confederation, the french and also the german republic idea right before, but as far as I see it, there is so far nothing missing.
Indeed, you see, most other countries have a history that follows a structure such as A, B, C, D. German history follows a structure that goes: A, B, c, C, ƒ, ∂, 16, L, p, p, ∫, p, p, Fredrick µ. the Great ∆, bratwurst, , 3.14159, Adolf.
@@andylawcc Well, first of all, we once again were not allowed to. The Soviet Union, Britain and USA were highly interested in keeping Germany as small as possible, But more importantly, most Austrians did no longer support that. We had our "Anschluss", it went horribly wrong, so rather not do that again. It takes time to build up a national identity. Austrias identity always was "we're a big, influential empire in central Europe". But all those people have died in the last 100 years. Nowadays our identity is pretty much: "we're a small country, almost entirely german speaking, but NOT Germany, we have a rich history, we're neutral and we're fine that way." This, BTW is one the reasons why Putin attacked Ukraine. As time went by, more and more of the old "soviet people" died out and the young Ukrainians only knew an independent Ukraine. So over time the old connections deteriorate and new ones are formed. And in that case, Ukrainians began to believe that EU and NATO membership were way better goals for their country - something that Putin could not allow. So, what I am saying is: this is all fluid, as generations of people grow old, die and are replaced over time. The windows for German-Austrian unification is closed now. It could have happened in the 30ies, maybe under some nice, democratic German leader. But it just didn't and now it won't happen. Of course now we have the EU, so all the member nations got closer anyway.
@@andylawcc the allied forced austria to stay separated after the second WW. Beofre the war austrians considered themselves as german as well. But after the war the austrian began to develop their own identity.
One thing regarding 1:06 The Kingdom of Prussia had it's capital in Berlin. It was a part of the empire, the name was just derived from East Prussia, because in 1701 the first king could not crown himself a king within the HRE because it was against the rules. Therefore he essentially crowned himself "King in Prussia" technically not being a king within the HRE. But the country he ruled over was Brandenburg-Prussia with it's capital and center of power in Brandenburg, not Prussia.
As an Austrian: I think it is important to note, that most of the Austrian population happily became part of Nazi-Germany. It is a quite popular but revisionistic narrative that Austria was Nazi-Germany's first victim, a role Austria tried to take after WWII... Of course the "Anschluss" wasn't exactly voluntary, which didn't exactly matter due to widespread Nazi-enthusiasm in 1938 (3 days after annexation Hitler was frenetically received by 250.000 Austrians on Vienna's Heldenplatz).
@Schwainer mit ai Well I do also believe that forbidding that Austria and Germany could unite after WWI was wrong since it clearly contradicted the self determination of people, wich was the justification of the dissolution of Austria Hungary and the polish corridor. But: the Anschluss was still illegal. Having a referendum in a occupied country is simply wrong no matter if the people would have voted in your favor anyways. That's why we as Europeans can pretty confidently judge the UK (as u mentioned them) for blocking the independence referendum of Scotland. People should be free to choose who they want to be governed by. Selfdetermination of the people is a great thing as long as it is actually secured. I wish you a wonderful evening.
@Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation🇩🇪 That's true but a rival one to the German if I recall correctly. Schuschniggs regime is often referred to as "austrofascism" or "halffascism" and he denied a referendum to the German government. And the rest is history.
@Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation🇩🇪 If all german-speaking territories of the former German Empire and Austria-Hungary had been allowed to become a part of the Weimar Republic, ww2 wouldn't have happened as germans would not have seeked revenge for ww1
It's always asked why austria isn't part but never why the other countries (benelux, switzerland) aren't part despite being part of the holy roman empire
They have their own histories, the old Swiss confederacy was made up of independent counts and princes and lords of the Alps who united to gain freedom from the Holy Roman beaurocracy. Meanwhile the Low Countries are a whole different thing but they came to develop their own unique distinctions and cultures over time through history also. Austria seems striking because they are German speakers as much as Bavarians but they don’t identify as Germans. It’s almost the same situation with English speaking Canadians and the US
@@awesomemantm2000 no. Austrians identified as Germans until the 1960s. LoL. Switzerland originally identified themselves as Germans also when they even had the Eidgenossenschaft von Schwyz. They gained independence in the 18th century, but exited almost 250 years earlier as the Eidgenossenschaft within the Empire. Luxembourg also until the French Frenchised them. The Dutch speak even today as duitse (duitsche originally) in their national anthem. Some dislike it or want to redefine it because of ”recent“ history (hehem Hitler).
@@JustAPintOfMilk it's both true. But it was true, the fascists in Austria opposing Nazi Germany said, they are the better Germany of all times. They did. And I said they don't do that anymore since the 1960s.
@@SchmulKrieger but you said no to the point of Austrians not identifing as Germans and then proceed to claim a point where they dont identify as Germans anymore. So you disagree with that point while describing how the point is true.
You forgot to mention the fact in order to get the soviets and Americans out in the 50s they had to sign a treaty where it is stated under literally any circumstance can not join Germany
@@Who_can_save_you_from_hell It's not. Actually Austria had a similar law not being able to join Germany before WW2 to prevent loosing souvereny (And you see what happpend :) ). Now Austria's neutrality forbids to join any other state or military organisation at all (e.g. Nato).
This does not change the fact that in Australia there are 48 million Kangaroos and in Uruguay there are 3,457,380 inhabitants. So if the Kangaroos decide to invade Uruguay, each Uruguayan would have to fight off 14 kangaroos
@@PinguinKeks Germany as a country as such didn't exist until 1871 after Prussia won the Franco-Prussian war. Before there was no Germany. Only small German states like Hannover, Baden, Bayern, Sachsen, Mecklenburg -Strelitz and many many more. They had Kings and dukes who rules those kingdoms independently and above them was the Holy Roman Emporer. After Napoleon it fell and the states had to reorganise themselves. But at that time no-one spoke of Germany. Only German states.
Short answer: The 1955 Austrian State Treaty, which let Austria gain independence from the Allied occupation while also banned the reunification of Germany and Austria forever.
I don't know, if somebody already did tell you, but the "Really not cool" at 6:42 from Austria shouldn't be there. We have a term for this in Austria "Die Opferrolle Österreichs" or "Opferthese", meaning "the role of victim of Austria" or "Austrian victim theory". Look it up on Wikipedia. Austria really wasn't a victim. The Austrians greeted Hitler in Austria. And of course some people where against Austria joining the German Empire, but a great ammount of Austrians voted for the anixasion.
Thats true. Sure, the British and American newspapers had front - page articles about the "r*pe" of Austria, but the Austrians welcomed Adi with open arms. They only cried r*pe after they lost the war.
great video,,,,,,, but i have a tip, i would suggest not making your youtube icon the union jack, i say this cus ppl might think that you might be biased towards Britain or that you only do british history. Anyway great vid!
My main motivation for using the Union Jack was that I'm British (Well, British and American, but originally British) and as the flags-with-eyes are all over the place on my channel, I decided it would be the best one to represent me. Ultimately though it is a little bit of an acknowledgment of the truth; at the end of the day, I am going to be slightly biased in favour of the UK, US, and the English-speaking world more generally. Not consciously, but there's no such thing as a truly unbiased summary of a historical event or history RUclips channel. I think its better to have that sort of thing out in the open, rather than try to pretend that I'm a robot. Anyway, thanks for the tip, glad you enjoyed! :)
Austria WAS a part of Germany already. But havent you heard, Germany lost WW2? So Austria had to be removed to make Germany smaller. Weaker. So Britain and France can make Germany behave according to the Anglo-French european order.
Why isn't Transylvania Hungary? Why isn't Moldova Romania? Why isn't Monaco France? Why aren't Vatican and San Marino Italian? Why isn't Mt Ararat Armenian? Lots of other similar questions.
Well since it's first Dynasty (the Babenberg Dynasty) even when Part of the HRR, the Austrian Lands and were granted several special rights through imperial privileges, mainly the privilegium minus and the privilegium maius that enabled the Duchy not only to become an Archduchy which elevated it in all but in Name to the honors and symbols of a kingdom within the old empire, this paved the way for developing statehood within the empire, and from the time the Habsburgs had risen to the Imperial Throne and held it for more than six centuries, the Austrian Lands were constituent part of the HRR but never felt German as the Habsburgs also ruled over Bohemia, (greater) Hungary, big parts of modern Italy, the Netherlands and not to forget Spain, which within the empire it made their holdings more diverse and multi lingual so were the rulers themselves. Within the realm not only the nobility but the people mixed over the centuries. The princely states of the HRR felt and spoke german (Bohemia was the only but partial exception, it had a significant german speaking middle and upper class and nobility). But german nationality in the modern sense did not develop before the Napoleonic wars started. Which also saw the end of the HRR which had become unrulable for a truly european dynasty also due to this fact the last HRR Emperor first kept held as the only Person in history two imperial titles for two years and then dropped the HRR Title and declared the Holy roman empires ending via formal announcement through a herald and went with the austrian imperial title in his own power. That and many more occurances led to the fact that austrians are central europeans but only partially german. The mix of all allmost all european countries heritage is to be found within the austrian population, making it unique. Fun fact: nowadays the austrian population is the most EU sceptic within the continent, the loss of imperial and mainly cultural power is still felt.
It would be more correct to say: "Why is Germany not Austrian?" For centuries, Austria was an infinitely superior power to old Prussia (at least until the wars of the 19th century, when the Prussians unified all the various German statelets). In fact, Austria was the backbone of the Holy Roman Empire. Until 1939, the cultural center of Germany was Königsberg - current Kaliningrad -, the central city of Teutonic civilization and Kantian philosophy... Vienna, on the other hand, was the true "capital" of the Germanic world, as well as of all Central Europe. It is no coincidence that the Turks, in the siege of 1683, aimed to destroy this city: it was the gateway to the Holy Roman Empire and to Italy, as well as the major cultural center of the time together with Paris, Venice, Rome and London. In fact, destroying and conquering (in primis) Vienna, (et in secundis) Venice and then Rome meant depriving Western Civilization of its socio-cultural and political identity. Berlin certainly cannot compete with Vienna on that point of view.
It would not be more correct because Austrians are ethnic germans. Just like Prussia united Germany its name was Germany not Greater Prussia because Prussians are germans. They united germany under prussian dominance. If Austria would do that they also would call it germany but then its under austrian dominance.
because austrians are also ethnic germans and considered themselves german until the end of WWII. Prussia also didnt name The German Empire Greater Prussia but germany just under prussian dominance. If Austria would have united Germany then they also would call it Germany and exclude Prussia who are also germans. Then it would be Germany under Austrian dominance and not greater austria
If Austria Empire dissolved earlier, it may have been annexed by German Empire. German Empire just does not want the non germanic population of Austria Empire.
@@Ch-xk5tv bullshit. Like many other multi-ethnic countries, Austria had to struggle with extreme nationality problems. It was very important for Bismarck to form a homogeneous state in order to prevent these problems. An annexation of Austria, with all other nationalities within, would have brought more problems than advantages in this case.
@@Ch-xk5tv Who is talking about being against minorities here? The main issue with the nationality problems in Austria was that these minorities wanted their independence. So in your opinion, should Germany take in these minorities, only that they then fight for their independence in Germany? So Germany is racist for you because they themselves renounce territories that are not German? Where's the logic?
Well that's a really hard question. A greater Germany led by prussia probably would have caused no war to break out since there wasn't any Archduke Franz Ferdinand to get shot but I guess your just wanting to now how it would have impacted Germany in a similar war against similar enemies. Then it depends on the extent of the greater Germany. If it was the entirety of Austria-Hungary they would have been doomed. There is no way Germany could've handled all the german states in a federal system aswell as all of the ethnicity in the Habsburg empire. They would have collapsed in the span of months I think. If it was only german Austria and the Sudetenland it would have granted Germany a significant boost since those were industrialized and highly developed regions that would have contributed well to german war efforts. Would they have been able to win? I don't no. Not if it came to the Trench warfare the same way it did in our reality. As soon as the offensive came to a stand Germany lost. Germany had no chance in the long run with the British naval blockade and the American aid to the Entende. And that's the most likely scenario in my opinion. I don't see how greater Germany could've successfully executed the Schliefen Plan without it ending in a disaster. I hope that answers your question or at least gives food for thought.
I am glad austria is not part of germany because we here in austria have more freedom than strict germany. So less rules useless rules. I am very glad and i would never prefer germany over austria
I think another probable reason why Fredrick William IV turned down becoming German emperor was because he didn't want to risk war with Austria,a war that would've probably involved Russia.
Short answer : because he allies forbid it. The only time Austria gave itself a constitution w/o outside threats was 1919 and paragraph 2 stated: "Austria is part of the german nation and must unify with Germany" The follow on dictate of the allies scrapped this constitution. Even so until after WW2 no one in the world except the US State Dept held that Austria was anything but German. However Austria was only released from allied occupation under the condition it never unifies with Germany again. After WW2 the propaganda in Austria was turned up to 11 and every schoolchild in Austria "learns" that Austria is "not german". This is the sole reason many modern Austrians have been robbed of their heritage. (plus post war treaties forbid Austria once again to unify)
Their is a lot of irony in Austrian-German history, and most times, to Austria’s detriment. The greatest irony, however, in today’s Austria has nothing to do with our relationship with Germany, After the 1st World War, all of Austrian ethnic regions formed their own states and went their own ways. Austria was only a little leftover, impoverished and cut off from all its historic ties, Today, millions of Austrians are more or less recent immigrants from exactly these and some more neighboring countries, who have come here for the better job opportunities, social benefits and living standards. Go figure.
Holy roman empress Maria Theresa was the only woman to have held the title of empress of the holy roman empire. She was the legitimate leader of Austria. Her husband Francis I was the ruler of the holy Roman empire since only men was allowed to be rulers of the holy Roman empire. She got the title of empress of a holy Roman empire as a compromise since she was a ruler of the biggest and strongest german state at the time. This is also why there was a short brake of austrian emporors of the holy Roman empire. Yeah they went back to voting for Austria as the leader of the HRE as soon as she had gotten herself married to Francis I.
Short answer? Because after WW2, being german, wasn't something desirable. In the late 18th and throughout the 19th century, both Prussia and Austria fought for the right to be the leading power in the unification. Both saw themselves and the other as Germans. After Prussia unified Germany, Austria, or at least the Austrian crouwn and aristocracy, didn't want to become the junior partner, but that didn't mean the sentiment in the head of the people was gone. Skip to the pre WW2 era. There were two german states. One germany, and one Austria. Now skip to the post-war era, and after a world war with deaths on a scale, never seen and industrialized killing of 'undesirables', the Austrians had a backup nationality to fall back on to. Their strategy worked! Nowadays, if you're talking to normal people around the world, people who are not history geeks, the dont even know that hitler was Austrian. They know that germany started all and that Austria was the first 'victim'. If they hear Germany, they think first of Nazis, than of all these positive cliches. If they think of Austrians, they think of Sissy, of chocolate, and of mountains.
The video was great and also entertaining, but the end was a bit imprecise. The occupation zones weren't seperate states. Except for the Soviet occupation zone in Germany...
The Question is, why istn Germany not a part of Austria. The Habsburger should be the King of German Empire, Großdeutsche Lösung. But Austria dont want to loose Hungary or Northern Italy.
As a German I am well aware of all that history, which we learn in detail in school. I don't see a valid reason not to re-unify with Austria in modern times, however, as surely our neighbours, all of whom are our allies, are no longer afraid of us, the German people. And all claims by Austrians being a "seperate" culture to Germans nowadays are a bit questionable, as these differences are no larger than any others between regions of Germany. There certainly is a sort of cultural continuum between Bavaria and Austria for example, and Austrians are not much more different from North Germans than Bavarians are, who are already part of Germany.
We have our own rules. We have our own history. And our own culture. I never could understand that argument: "Austrians only speak a different dialect, similiar to the bavarians". In that case you could also reunify the exsoviet states or the exyugo states. Nearly no one feels connected to the germans. And many austrians hate germans like you, that pure arrogance. No respect towards our culture and our Independence.
Den politischen Verwaltungseinheiten wird heute viel zu viel Bedeutung beigemessen. Ich bin als österreichischer Staatsbürger einfach froh um unser gemeinsames deutsches Kulturerbe.❤
Very interesting! As an Austrian, I can tell you, beeing "not German" is a very big part of our identity! It even went so far, the German TV commercials were dubbed with Austrian voices - although the German voice would have been well understood - they both were not an extrem dialect or so. It just felt more "ours" with Austrian voice. Its not that we do not like Germans (most Austrians have German friends and have enjoyed visiting Germany and its all fine between us) it just feels so wrong to "be German".
Stell dir vor deine Nationale Identität basiert auf einer Lüge.... aber hey wir kriegen immerhin Mozart: "was mich aber am meisten ausrichtet und frohen Mutes erhält ist, das ich ein ehrlicher Deutscher bin".
Video games and movies werent dub differnt that is is just in local commercials. that is also the case in baveria or other parts of germany were the marketing companies wanna appear local and then they dub it with the local accents and also some words gets change mentioning a specifc town ect. But that using as not german speaking identiy IDK Baveria also need no leave germany then i wouldt mind if austria join germany also the USA wouldnt mind because than austria would be in the NATO too and in the current situation everyone in Europe would probadly be glad too.
Germany agreed to never allow territory that wasn't a part of West or East Germany to be incorporated into itself in 1990 when it reunified, so yes, it is still forbidden from annexing Austria. However, it also hasn't been done because the issue is no longer a particularly relevant one; Austrians are now much more solidly their own nation and no longer have much of an interest in joining Germany. With the EU and Schengen already in place, it also wouldn't make that much of a practical difference.
@@LookBackHistory the most important thing is Austrians after 1945 don't think they're Germans anymore, yeah we respect their independence but don't need to dislike us much.
When I hear German I have the belief that it’s similar to a category that the Romans used to describe the peoples of Europe similar to Latin or slavic I could be wrong but I understand such as the Spanish & Italian & Portuguese are Latin so are the Austrians and Dutch are Germanic? So yeah the people of Deutschland and Austria are a part of each other in Ancestry
@@ranyl7744 Austria and Bavaria definitely aren't that different in ethnicity. There's supposed to be more slavic influence in middle Germany and of course northern Germans have closer ties to the Netherlands or Denmark. German in the ethnic sense though is who's mother tongue is German.
For all of you wondering if we (the Austrians) would want to unify now, we don't it simply would bring us no benefit now since both countries are in the EU
Why is not the German speaking population in Switzerland part of Germany. Why is not Republika Srpska un Bosnia part of Serbia. Why is not the Sweedish population in Finland part of Sweeden.
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 All these people who greatly expanded their countries' territory and power were from a part of the empire/dictatorship which was forcibly incorporated.
@@tahamuhammad1814Hitler was German and so was Austria. The whole Austria isn’t German thing is a relatively modern idea set in place after WW2 when the two were forcibly split up and the government set about creating a distinctly “we aren’t Germans” identity (made easier when the two were banned from reuniting). Before that Austrians were fully down with being Germans (although Austria wanted to be in charge)) and many even wanted to join the OG German empire. Hell Austrians even cheered as the nazis marched in to annex them.
they say it is because our politicians were able to drink more than Nikta Crustchov. Not sure if that is entirely true. The politicians in question were in Concentrtion camps during teh Nazi aera, BTW.
@@derdude6214 It's not everywhere like in Bavaria. Even the dialect is non bavarian in some places. I for example have an alemannic dialect. So start insulting when you know your shit.
@@europeancuisine4897 Well at least you got the german tradition of overcomplicating jokes. Guess Austria and Germany have that in common. Schönes Wochenende Atze
I've this understand that the Austrians wanted to unite with a german republic, not with the third reich. So is it true force wouldn't have been needed in the refrefendum if Germany was a republic in 1938? Edit: I mean they definitely wanted to do that in 1919 so how much would have changed in under 20 years?
@Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation🇩🇪 yes but I feal like that is mainly because of the war's legacy, extensive propaganda that Austrians aren't germans and allied restrctions
The Holy Roman Empire was not a "Germany 1.0" and its people were not germans. It existed the consept of a "united german speaking nation" but that did not happen until the 19th century. Per definition, the HRE was not even an Empire and had more in common with todays EU than a united Nation. People in the HRE were even fighting more each other than against someone else. People in the HRE were swabians, bohemians etc. but not german. Officially, Germany and german as ethnicity and culture only exist since the unification in the 19th century and even today it does not exist "that one" german ethnicity and culture. A german from north Germany is pretty different from one of south Germany. But it is defined as "german" since the 19th century so they are both germans today.
I should point out that one of the conditions for the Soviet Union allowing all the occupation zones in Austria to be united was that the reunited Austria had to declare permanent neutrality during the Cold War.
In 1938, Austria wasn't a democracy anymore. It already was a fascist regime under the rule of dictator Kurt Schuschnigg. Thus, the Anschluss was just the replacement of Austrian fascism by German fascism.
@@Ch-xk5tv the difference is, Schuschnigg was an unpopular autocrat, while Hitler and the NSDAP were popular within Germany and in Austria. Most saw it as a liberation. The nee Austrian government created by the occupation forces tried to retcon this after the war by claiming Austria was invaded against their will, which is a huge pile of BS.
Ich bin Österreicher. Mich wundert es, dass Leute die keine Ahnung haben mich als Deutschen bezeichnen. Genausogut könnte man sagen, dass die Briten Amerikaner sind. Was für ein Blödsinn.
@@erwinmuller4853 "Deutschland" haben die natürlich nicht gesagt sonder "Alemania". Das ist halt das problem, wenn man den Menschen im Ausland erklärt, dass kein "Österreichisch" existiert, sondern dass man in Österreich Deutsch spricht (damit meine ich auch die regionalen Dialekte in Österreich)
@@gamerdrache6076 es ist schon komisch, dass das was als "typisch" deutsch bezeichnet wird (Oktoberfest, Alpen, Lederhosen) eher auf Österreich (durch die stark bayrisch geprägte Kultur) zutrifft als auf Norddeutschland. Mit Norddeutschland meine ich als Österreicher eigentlich alles, was nicht Bayern ist. Also ob jetzt jemand aus Duisburg, Hamburg oder Berlin kommt macht bei uns keinen Unterschied
I, for one, don't want to be part of germany, secondly last time we were, it was not very popular for other people due to the guy being in charge having a slight führer complex. Also it looks a bit too bordergory to me, yes, easthetic is a valid reason for staying independent
@@viveka2994 i know they did, we do learn that in history. i mean with slight retrospective (talking early 1940s POV while he was already at war) he was not very popular in terms of people abroad - and some individuals inside the state. Also what else could you do in that case? You can't just say no to the Anschluss - it's too late for that from the moment they start planning it. And if there's a certain amount of loud people voicing support - it doesn't need even close to a majority - it makes opponents voice their opinion less for fear of being shunned / prosecuted by the law.
The HRE was a multiethnic empire, and the throne was elective. At some point both Henry VIII king of England and Francis I king of France ran for position of emperor. And in the high middle ages there have been 2 emperors from Italy and one from France. And the original HRE also owned the entirety of France and the entirety of Italy.
I dont feel its right to describe it as German Empire. multicultural would describe it. It was german, Czech, French, Polish, Hungarian, Italian,.... It included sizeable parts of all those cultures durring its lifetime with not only Germanic Emperors. Even Bohemia was on the brink of absolutely dominating the HRE once.
If you're interested in knowing more about Austria-Hungary, find out why and how it collapsed, here: ruclips.net/video/SoL9PyW-K6Q/видео.html
Actually after WW1 Austria wasnt left with just Austria but even less (especially the loss of Southern Tyrolia)
I think they even had the Sudetenland for a short while until the winning powers took that away
ThaT belongs ITaLy
@@andrealuisecandido1154 South Tyrol will never be italian. Yes, italians moved there but locals kept their traditions, their language and (to some extend) their will to fight. Italians on the other hand never really found a home in that german dominated area which is a good sign since they don't belong there. Go back where your roots are and where you're welcome. We don't need no occupiers.
They lost Tyrol, But gained Burgenland from us, Hungarians
South Tyrol Is italian.
Considering that Austria was the dominant power in the Holy Roman Empire for over 300 years, the real question should be: Why isn't Germany part of Austria?
because the austrians as HRE emperors had to defend the lesser german states, not conqur them, + if austria had tried to invade them, the german states would've likely allied and formed a coalition against austria. the austrians would be utterly outnumbered + such a coalition would attract france, as they were traditional rivals with austria, and would do anything for an opportunity to kick austrias butt.
Germany? You mean greater Austria
YES
Austria couldn't fight their way out of wet paper towel. Uncle Germany always saved them...Germany could have won WW1 if they didn't have to carry around the Habsburgs
@@bradbutcher8762 this is a dumb comment
Hello there from Germany. Thats an integral part of german History which you brought up here in english and which is a topic in every german school in history lessons .I'm very astonished that u made it to explain that within 7 minutes as it is a very complex topic. I didn't see any mistake in your explanation - keep up the good work :)
You might could have gone a bit more in detail with the northern german and southern german confederation, the french and also the german republic idea right before, but as far as I see it, there is so far nothing missing.
Indeed, you see, most other countries have a history that follows a structure such as A, B, C, D.
German history follows a structure that goes: A, B, c, C, ƒ, ∂, 16, L, p, p, ∫, p, p, Fredrick µ. the Great ∆, bratwurst, , 3.14159, Adolf.
but how come after WW2 is well over, Austria didn't want to join Germany? Like how it was intended after WW1.
@@andylawcc Well, first of all, we once again were not allowed to. The Soviet Union, Britain and USA were highly interested in keeping Germany as small as possible, But more importantly, most Austrians did no longer support that. We had our "Anschluss", it went horribly wrong, so rather not do that again. It takes time to build up a national identity. Austrias identity always was "we're a big, influential empire in central Europe". But all those people have died in the last 100 years. Nowadays our identity is pretty much: "we're a small country, almost entirely german speaking, but NOT Germany, we have a rich history, we're neutral and we're fine that way."
This, BTW is one the reasons why Putin attacked Ukraine. As time went by, more and more of the old "soviet people" died out and the young Ukrainians only knew an independent Ukraine. So over time the old connections deteriorate and new ones are formed. And in that case, Ukrainians began to believe that EU and NATO membership were way better goals for their country - something that Putin could not allow. So, what I am saying is: this is all fluid, as generations of people grow old, die and are replaced over time. The windows for German-Austrian unification is closed now. It could have happened in the 30ies, maybe under some nice, democratic German leader. But it just didn't and now it won't happen. Of course now we have the EU, so all the member nations got closer anyway.
@@andylawcc the allied forced austria to stay separated after the second WW. Beofre the war austrians considered themselves as german as well. But after the war the austrian began to develop their own identity.
@@TheOldMamba Beautifully said.
One thing regarding 1:06
The Kingdom of Prussia had it's capital in Berlin. It was a part of the empire, the name was just derived from East Prussia, because in 1701 the first king could not crown himself a king within the HRE because it was against the rules. Therefore he essentially crowned himself "King in Prussia" technically not being a king within the HRE.
But the country he ruled over was Brandenburg-Prussia with it's capital and center of power in Brandenburg, not Prussia.
also not king of prussia to not piss the polish.
The
Kingdom of Germany donT exisT any more
as also The Kingdom of Russia donT exisT any more
You see, one Austrian asked himself the same thing about 90 years ago
And many Austrians found that a great idea. They all had some kind of Alzheimer after that.
Amnesia. @@Rondo2ooo
I can't believe I hadn't found your channel until now, great stuff!
Hey, thanks!
As an Austrian: I think it is important to note, that most of the Austrian population happily became part of Nazi-Germany. It is a quite popular but revisionistic narrative that Austria was Nazi-Germany's first victim, a role Austria tried to take after WWII... Of course the "Anschluss" wasn't exactly voluntary, which didn't exactly matter due to widespread Nazi-enthusiasm in 1938 (3 days after annexation Hitler was frenetically received by 250.000 Austrians on Vienna's Heldenplatz).
@keikihaniyasushin8574 👍
The biggest demonstration ever - 250,000 wildly cheering Viennese, the Führer proclaimed the "homecoming of Austria" into the German Reich.
@Schwainer mit ai Well I do also believe that forbidding that Austria and Germany could unite after WWI was wrong since it clearly contradicted the self determination of people, wich was the justification of the dissolution of Austria Hungary and the polish corridor.
But: the Anschluss was still illegal. Having a referendum in a occupied country is simply wrong no matter if the people would have voted in your favor anyways. That's why we as Europeans can pretty confidently judge the UK (as u mentioned them) for blocking the independence referendum of Scotland. People should be free to choose who they want to be governed by.
Selfdetermination of the people is a great thing as long as it is actually secured.
I wish you a wonderful evening.
@Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation🇩🇪 That's true but a rival one to the German if I recall correctly. Schuschniggs regime is often referred to as "austrofascism" or "halffascism" and he denied a referendum to the German government. And the rest is history.
@Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation🇩🇪 If all german-speaking territories of the former German Empire and Austria-Hungary had been allowed to become a part of the Weimar Republic, ww2 wouldn't have happened as germans would not have seeked revenge for ww1
I love how you put your videos together. They educate and have some humor which keeps them interesting. Excellent👍☺!
Thank you very much, I try! :)
@@LookBackHistory You are doing great. Keep it up👍☺. I feel the knowledge starting to stick😂.
It's always asked why austria isn't part but never why the other countries (benelux, switzerland) aren't part despite being part of the holy roman empire
They have their own histories, the old Swiss confederacy was made up of independent counts and princes and lords of the Alps who united to gain freedom from the Holy Roman beaurocracy. Meanwhile the Low Countries are a whole different thing but they came to develop their own unique distinctions and cultures over time through history also. Austria seems striking because they are German speakers as much as Bavarians but they don’t identify as Germans. It’s almost the same situation with English speaking Canadians and the US
@@awesomemantm2000 no. Austrians identified as Germans until the 1960s. LoL. Switzerland originally identified themselves as Germans also when they even had the Eidgenossenschaft von Schwyz. They gained independence in the 18th century, but exited almost 250 years earlier as the Eidgenossenschaft within the Empire.
Luxembourg also until the French Frenchised them. The Dutch speak even today as duitse (duitsche originally) in their national anthem. Some dislike it or want to redefine it because of ”recent“ history (hehem Hitler).
@@SchmulKrieger i think you made a mistake there.
Very first word should be "yes" not no.
As you are basicly saying that they dont identify as germans
@@JustAPintOfMilk it's both true. But it was true, the fascists in Austria opposing Nazi Germany said, they are the better Germany of all times. They did. And I said they don't do that anymore since the 1960s.
@@SchmulKrieger but you said no to the point of Austrians not identifing as Germans and then proceed to claim a point where they dont identify as Germans anymore.
So you disagree with that point while describing how the point is true.
You forgot to mention the fact in order to get the soviets and Americans out in the 50s they had to sign a treaty where it is stated under literally any circumstance can not join Germany
Which is against international law I guess.
@@Who_can_save_you_from_hell It's not. Actually Austria had a similar law not being able to join Germany before WW2 to prevent loosing souvereny (And you see what happpend :) ). Now Austria's neutrality forbids to join any other state or military organisation at all (e.g. Nato).
@@faurix1430But the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore and Russia is the Main problem
So the Situation is Right for Deutschland
@@masfiqratul7559 Do you mean it's Anschluss time?
A jerk with a silly moustache.! Loved it. So informative!.
:) I'm glad!
That was dumb.
Funny, glad we don't live in 30's and 40's Germany where saying this will get us in trouble.
You can blame Hitler for a lot but that's definitely not one of them. I mean hell he's the only one that ever united Austria with Germany
@@HannahHäggAutisticTransWoman Not really. It would have been illegal when you published it. But saying it to a friend, nope, no trouble.
I learned a bit of this researching my Mary Theresa video but this has a lot more depth. Well done.
Nice, you might've noticed that she showed up during the bit about the Silesian Wars? I'll have to check out your video!
@@LookBackHistory I caught that. Your attention to detail is always impeccable.
Another enjoyable and informative video.
Thanks :)
Das wurde sehr gut (und übersichtlich) zusammengefasst.
This does not change the fact that in Australia there are 48 million Kangaroos and in Uruguay there are 3,457,380 inhabitants. So if the Kangaroos decide to invade Uruguay, each Uruguayan would have to fight off 14 kangaroos
Brilliant! Another thing that I never knew :)
Awesome, glad you got something out of it!
Who knew Germany was once the Holy Roman Empire? Well, James did I suppose. Thanks for another great video!
My pleasure!
that’s why hitler’s Germany was called the third reich
the HRE was technically the first reich
Nope, Holy Roman Empire ≠ Germany
@@AustrianEmpire ??
@@PinguinKeks Germany as a country as such didn't exist until 1871 after Prussia won the Franco-Prussian war. Before there was no Germany. Only small German states like Hannover, Baden, Bayern, Sachsen, Mecklenburg -Strelitz and many many more. They had Kings and dukes who rules those kingdoms independently and above them was the Holy Roman Emporer. After Napoleon it fell and the states had to reorganise themselves. But at that time no-one spoke of Germany. Only German states.
Thank you very much for this very informative video!
Short answer: The 1955 Austrian State Treaty, which let Austria gain independence from the Allied occupation while also banned the reunification of Germany and Austria forever.
I don't know, if somebody already did tell you, but the "Really not cool" at 6:42 from Austria shouldn't be there. We have a term for this in Austria "Die Opferrolle Österreichs" or "Opferthese", meaning "the role of victim of Austria" or "Austrian victim theory". Look it up on Wikipedia. Austria really wasn't a victim. The Austrians greeted Hitler in Austria. And of course some people where against Austria joining the German Empire, but a great ammount of Austrians voted for the anixasion.
Thats true. Sure, the British and American newspapers had front - page articles about the "r*pe" of Austria, but the Austrians welcomed Adi with open arms. They only cried r*pe after they lost the war.
Pretty accurate and unbiased summary. Nice one.
Glad you enjoyed it
Germany - Bavaria -> Austria + Bavaria (please!)
the arch in archduke is pronounced like archbishop not like in archangel.
Which is rather weird, given that it's the same arch- every time.
@@Llortnerof It has to do with whether the letter that follows the "arch" is a vowel or consonant.
So am I right that you thought it was ark-duke?
As a South Tyrolean, I'd root for a unification of all german territories.
Südtirol sollte wieder ein Teil Österreichs sein. Hoffentlich untergräbt Meloni nicht eure Autonomie. Grüße aus Württemberg (Süddeutschland)!
Self determination is not allowed for Germans, unfortunately.
Finde, dass Südtirol wieder zu Österreich gehören sollte
Südtirol ist österreich!
@@themfwestcoast und Österreich ist Deutschland !
Servus from Austria
"Sag beim Abschied leise servus, nicht 'goodbye' und nicht 'adieu', diese Worte tun mir Weh..."
Thats from a schmaltzy Viennese song.
So in short, they were too strong to play second fiddle to Prussia, but too weak to launch their own unification project.
great video,,,,,,, but i have a tip, i would suggest not making your youtube icon the union jack, i say this cus ppl might think that you might be biased towards Britain or that you only do british history. Anyway great vid!
My main motivation for using the Union Jack was that I'm British (Well, British and American, but originally British) and as the flags-with-eyes are all over the place on my channel, I decided it would be the best one to represent me. Ultimately though it is a little bit of an acknowledgment of the truth; at the end of the day, I am going to be slightly biased in favour of the UK, US, and the English-speaking world more generally. Not consciously, but there's no such thing as a truly unbiased summary of a historical event or history RUclips channel.
I think its better to have that sort of thing out in the open, rather than try to pretend that I'm a robot. Anyway, thanks for the tip, glad you enjoyed! :)
@@LookBackHistory Thanks, it is also great that you read all the comments
Austria WAS a part of Germany already. But havent you heard, Germany lost WW2? So Austria had to be removed to make Germany smaller. Weaker. So Britain and France can make Germany behave according to the Anglo-French european order.
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The real question here is why isn't Germany called "Westenreich"?
Thats interesting. I never thought of that.
"common blood belongs to a common reich" austrian painter
Do Austrians thnk their country is shaped like a Chicken Drumstick?
And the country of the Americans looks like a far too fat cow on two legs that lifts its head.
@@lennat24 Yes, that is one of many interpreations...sometimes there are ones less clean than that too
Very good summary without mistakes a high light in the english speaking world in regards to this matter, congratulations.
People in the comments: „Lasst die Spiele beginnen!“
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Why isn't Transylvania Hungary?
Why isn't Moldova Romania?
Why isn't Monaco France?
Why aren't Vatican and San Marino Italian?
Why isn't Mt Ararat Armenian?
Lots of other similar questions.
@@Cjnw of course.
Meanwhile Germans: Wait this isn’t actually Germany?
I like the ragtime background music.
Germany is not a sovereign state; it would not be allowed to unite with Austria without consent of the USA
I'm from Italy but sadly all Europe is not sovereign anymore, all our countries are USA colonies now
Well since it's first Dynasty (the Babenberg Dynasty) even when Part of the HRR, the Austrian Lands and were granted several special rights through imperial privileges, mainly the privilegium minus and the privilegium maius that enabled the Duchy not only to become an Archduchy which elevated it in all but in Name to the honors and symbols of a kingdom within the old empire, this paved the way for developing statehood within the empire, and from the time the Habsburgs had risen to the Imperial Throne and held it for more than six centuries, the Austrian Lands were constituent part of the HRR but never felt German as the Habsburgs also ruled over Bohemia, (greater) Hungary, big parts of modern Italy, the Netherlands and not to forget Spain, which within the empire it made their holdings more diverse and multi lingual so were the rulers themselves. Within the realm not only the nobility but the people mixed over the centuries. The princely states of the HRR felt and spoke german (Bohemia was the only but partial exception, it had a significant german speaking middle and upper class and nobility). But german nationality in the modern sense did not develop before the Napoleonic wars started. Which also saw the end of the HRR which had become unrulable for a truly european dynasty also due to this fact the last HRR Emperor first kept held as the only Person in history two imperial titles for two years and then dropped the HRR Title and declared the Holy roman empires ending via formal announcement through a herald and went with the austrian imperial title in his own power. That and many more occurances led to the fact that austrians are central europeans but only partially german. The mix of all allmost all european countries heritage is to be found within the austrian population, making it unique. Fun fact: nowadays the austrian population is the most EU sceptic within the continent, the loss of imperial and mainly cultural power is still felt.
It would be more correct to say: "Why is Germany not Austrian?" For centuries, Austria was an infinitely superior power to old Prussia (at least until the wars of the 19th century, when the Prussians unified all the various German statelets). In fact, Austria was the backbone of the Holy Roman Empire. Until 1939, the cultural center of Germany was Königsberg - current Kaliningrad -, the central city of Teutonic civilization and Kantian philosophy... Vienna, on the other hand, was the true "capital" of the Germanic world, as well as of all Central Europe. It is no coincidence that the Turks, in the siege of 1683, aimed to destroy this city: it was the gateway to the Holy Roman Empire and to Italy, as well as the major cultural center of the time together with Paris, Venice, Rome and London. In fact, destroying and conquering (in primis) Vienna, (et in secundis) Venice and then Rome meant depriving Western Civilization of its socio-cultural and political identity. Berlin certainly cannot compete with Vienna on that point of view.
German was the no 1 language and also the German population was more than austria
It would not be more correct because Austrians are ethnic germans. Just like Prussia united Germany its name was Germany not Greater Prussia because Prussians are germans. They united germany under prussian dominance. If Austria would do that they also would call it germany but then its under austrian dominance.
The question is not why Austria is not part of Germany. Considering European history the only valid question is why Germany is not part of Austria. :)
Wrong
because austrians are also ethnic germans and considered themselves german until the end of WWII. Prussia also didnt name The German Empire Greater Prussia but germany just under prussian dominance. If Austria would have united Germany then they also would call it Germany and exclude Prussia who are also germans. Then it would be Germany under Austrian dominance and not greater austria
If Austria Empire dissolved earlier, it may have been annexed by German Empire. German Empire just does not want the non germanic population of Austria Empire.
That was the start of german racism and racial surpremacism.
@@Ch-xk5tv no
@@Ch-xk5tv bullshit. Like many other multi-ethnic countries, Austria had to struggle with extreme nationality problems. It was very important for Bismarck to form a homogeneous state in order to prevent these problems. An annexation of Austria, with all other nationalities within, would have brought more problems than advantages in this case.
@@-Eisenfaust- So you think it is a just thought to be against ethnic minorities?
@@Ch-xk5tv Who is talking about being against minorities here? The main issue with the nationality problems in Austria was that these minorities wanted their independence. So in your opinion, should Germany take in these minorities, only that they then fight for their independence in Germany? So Germany is racist for you because they themselves renounce territories that are not German? Where's the logic?
3:30 Austria suggested the greater Austrian solution, the greater German solution was suggested by southern germans
Austrians are South Germans, you know
Catholic hybris as always..
in the image of austria after ww1 a bit is missing: the southern part of tyrol ;-)
🇦🇹 Australia is not Part Of Germany
me : oh!!!! Where Is Kangoroo!!! 😁
The upmost reason is battle of koniggratz, everything else is just follow up.
there was a joke in Austria in the early 1930s "Hitler is our revenge for Königsgrätz" That joke did not age well.
Every time our nations joined somehow, it ended in a world war... maybe we should just stay friends xD
You forgot to mention how Arnold came to America.
How would World War I have ended if there had been Greater Germany or Greater Austria?
Well that's a really hard question. A greater Germany led by prussia probably would have caused no war to break out since there wasn't any Archduke Franz Ferdinand to get shot but I guess your just wanting to now how it would have impacted Germany in a similar war against similar enemies.
Then it depends on the extent of the greater Germany. If it was the entirety of Austria-Hungary they would have been doomed. There is no way Germany could've handled all the german states in a federal system aswell as all of the ethnicity in the Habsburg empire. They would have collapsed in the span of months I think. If it was only german Austria and the Sudetenland it would have granted Germany a significant boost since those were industrialized and highly developed regions that would have contributed well to german war efforts. Would they have been able to win? I don't no. Not if it came to the Trench warfare the same way it did in our reality. As soon as the offensive came to a stand Germany lost. Germany had no chance in the long run with the British naval blockade and the American aid to the Entende. And that's the most likely scenario in my opinion. I don't see how greater Germany could've successfully executed the Schliefen Plan without it ending in a disaster.
I hope that answers your question or at least gives food for thought.
I am glad austria is not part of germany because we here in austria have more freedom than strict germany. So less rules useless rules. I am very glad and i would never prefer germany over austria
Ich auch
Ok name 10 of these rules you have not but Germany has.
😁😁😁 Austrians will absolutely HATE this thumbnail hahahaha
I think another probable reason why Fredrick William IV turned down becoming German emperor was because he didn't want to risk war with Austria,a war that would've probably involved Russia.
Short answer : because he allies forbid it. The only time Austria gave itself a constitution w/o outside threats was 1919 and paragraph 2 stated: "Austria is part of the german nation and must unify with Germany" The follow on dictate of the allies scrapped this constitution.
Even so until after WW2 no one in the world except the US State Dept held that Austria was anything but German.
However Austria was only released from allied occupation under the condition it never unifies with Germany again. After WW2 the propaganda in Austria was turned up to 11 and every schoolchild in Austria "learns" that Austria is "not german". This is the sole reason many modern Austrians have been robbed of their heritage. (plus post war treaties forbid Austria once again to unify)
they are not German at all. A lot of them have Czech and Hungarian heritage. We have a saying "The Balkans begin in Vienna".
@@grundgesetzart.1463 This is satire yes?
Why Belgium isn't part of France/Netherlands?
Love your videos but hate the background music. Your videos would be perfection with just your narration.
In that case, you might like this video on Liechtenstein: ruclips.net/video/x3rzYNqHQio/видео.html
A good video indeed but the silent film like background music is indeed annoying and totally unfitting to the subject.
The allies did a bit of trolling
Okay but why isn't Switzerland a part of Germany 🤔
because they have mountains and we don´t want to0 take them and lose 1 million to the bunkers
we tried.
Last time it was shit happened
Their is a lot of irony in Austrian-German history, and most times, to Austria’s detriment.
The greatest irony, however, in today’s Austria has nothing to do with our relationship with Germany, After the 1st World War, all of Austrian ethnic regions formed their own states and went their own ways. Austria was only a little leftover, impoverished and cut off from all its historic ties, Today, millions of Austrians are more or less recent immigrants from exactly these and some more neighboring countries, who have come here for the better job opportunities, social benefits and living standards. Go figure.
Holy roman empress Maria Theresa was the only woman to have held the title of empress of the holy roman empire. She was the legitimate leader of Austria. Her husband Francis I was the ruler of the holy Roman empire since only men was allowed to be rulers of the holy Roman empire. She got the title of empress of a holy Roman empire as a compromise since she was a ruler of the biggest and strongest german state at the time.
This is also why there was a short brake of austrian emporors of the holy Roman empire. Yeah they went back to voting for Austria as the leader of the HRE as soon as she had gotten herself married to Francis I.
She got the title of Holy Roman Empress because she was Francis‘ wife, same goes for every other empress consort
That background music is absolutely annoying for a documentary video 👎
Short answer: Because the Entente (and the Allies later on) denied the Germans their right of peoples to self-determination.
Oh shit the song in the background is that same song that plays in Gray Still Plays videos whenever he does something wacky.
Do you use Tubebuddy?
No, VidIQ
@@LookBackHistory oh
Short answer?
Because after WW2, being german, wasn't something desirable.
In the late 18th and throughout the 19th century, both Prussia and Austria fought for the right to be the leading power in the unification.
Both saw themselves and the other as Germans.
After Prussia unified Germany, Austria, or at least the Austrian crouwn and aristocracy, didn't want to become the junior partner, but that didn't mean the sentiment in the head of the people was gone.
Skip to the pre WW2 era. There were two german states. One germany, and one Austria.
Now skip to the post-war era, and after a world war with deaths on a scale, never seen and industrialized killing of 'undesirables', the Austrians had a backup nationality to fall back on to.
Their strategy worked!
Nowadays, if you're talking to normal people around the world, people who are not history geeks, the dont even know that hitler was Austrian. They know that germany started all and that Austria was the first 'victim'.
If they hear Germany, they think first of Nazis, than of all these positive cliches.
If they think of Austrians, they think of Sissy, of chocolate, and of mountains.
personally i think that Austria should just become part of Japan, the issue of German unification will never come up again.
Troll...
@@karlhintonwilson5111 clearly i said it with 100% seriousness.
@@NiskaMagnusson it would be better if Austria becomes a US state hahaha.
The video was great and also entertaining, but the end was a bit imprecise. The occupation zones weren't seperate states. Except for the Soviet occupation zone in Germany...
Reading this title immediately made me think this video was made by Adolf Hitler
if hitler lived nowadays he'd definetely make a video "why austria is germany and why europe is germany"
Having lived in both countries. Austria IS Germany without all the BS
Why isnt Austria part of Germany? Well why ist the usa part of the uk
Seeing how one state has a bigger GDP than all of the UK, it wouldn't make much sense. Now, England becoming a state? I could see that.
The Question is, why istn Germany not a part of Austria. The Habsburger should be the King of German Empire, Großdeutsche Lösung. But Austria dont want to loose Hungary or Northern Italy.
As a German I am well aware of all that history, which we learn in detail in school. I don't see a valid reason not to re-unify with Austria in modern times, however, as surely our neighbours, all of whom are our allies, are no longer afraid of us, the German people. And all claims by Austrians being a "seperate" culture to Germans nowadays are a bit questionable, as these differences are no larger than any others between regions of Germany. There certainly is a sort of cultural continuum between Bavaria and Austria for example, and Austrians are not much more different from North Germans than Bavarians are, who are already part of Germany.
You germans May not See a valid reason, but we Austrians do.
We have our own rules. We have our own history. And our own culture. I never could understand that argument: "Austrians only speak a different dialect, similiar to the bavarians". In that case you could also reunify the exsoviet states or the exyugo states. Nearly no one feels connected to the germans. And many austrians hate germans like you, that pure arrogance. No respect towards our culture and our Independence.
Wir wollens nicht.
@@theHolyOli1 🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝
Den politischen Verwaltungseinheiten wird heute viel zu viel Bedeutung beigemessen. Ich bin als österreichischer Staatsbürger einfach froh um unser gemeinsames deutsches Kulturerbe.❤
Why isn't Canada part of the US?
Very interesting! As an Austrian, I can tell you, beeing "not German" is a very big part of our identity! It even went so far, the German TV commercials were dubbed with Austrian voices - although the German voice would have been well understood - they both were not an extrem dialect or so. It just felt more "ours" with Austrian voice. Its not that we do not like Germans (most Austrians have German friends and have enjoyed visiting Germany and its all fine between us) it just feels so wrong to "be German".
Just after WW2, because the Aussis also wanted to be the victims and not the bad guys
@@ravanpee1325 I guess, you are right about this ;-)
Stell dir vor deine Nationale Identität basiert auf einer Lüge.... aber hey wir kriegen immerhin Mozart: "was mich aber am meisten ausrichtet und frohen Mutes erhält ist, das ich ein ehrlicher Deutscher bin".
Video games and movies werent dub differnt that is is just in local commercials. that is also the case in baveria or other parts of germany were the marketing companies wanna appear local and then they dub it with the local accents and also some words gets change mentioning a specifc town ect.
But that using as not german speaking identiy IDK Baveria also need no leave germany then i wouldt mind if austria join germany also the USA wouldnt mind because than austria would be in the NATO too and in the current situation everyone in Europe would probadly be glad too.
@@stilicho8762 "Nationale Identität" hat sehr oft mit wissenschaftlich beweisbaren Realitäten nichts zu tun, das ist eher ein Gefühl.
And nowadays is still forbidden by the germain treaty? Or it just hasn't been done because it will be too much paperwork?
Germany agreed to never allow territory that wasn't a part of West or East Germany to be incorporated into itself in 1990 when it reunified, so yes, it is still forbidden from annexing Austria. However, it also hasn't been done because the issue is no longer a particularly relevant one; Austrians are now much more solidly their own nation and no longer have much of an interest in joining Germany. With the EU and Schengen already in place, it also wouldn't make that much of a practical difference.
it is not done because we do not like the germans very much since about 1866, but latest 1938
@@LookBackHistory the most important thing is Austrians after 1945 don't think they're Germans anymore, yeah we respect their independence but don't need to dislike us much.
When I hear German I have the belief that it’s similar to a category that the Romans used to describe the peoples of Europe similar to Latin or slavic I could be wrong but I understand such as the Spanish & Italian & Portuguese are Latin so are the Austrians and Dutch are Germanic? So yeah the people of Deutschland and Austria are a part of each other in Ancestry
Austria is a mixture of slavic celtic germanic. I would say denmark, sweden, germany and everything up north is as germanic as it can get
@@ranyl7744 Austria and Bavaria definitely aren't that different in ethnicity. There's supposed to be more slavic influence in middle Germany and of course northern Germans have closer ties to the Netherlands or Denmark. German in the ethnic sense though is who's mother tongue is German.
Austrians and Bavarians derive predominantly both from the germanic tribe of the "Baiuvarii" (In German: Bajuwaren)!!! That cant be denied at all!!!
because historically it is older than Germany. And it has always been different from Germany, in many ways. Language is not everything.
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For all of you wondering if we (the Austrians) would want to unify now, we don't it simply would bring us no benefit now since both countries are in the EU
Don't call someone jerk, even if that person that a lot of evil things
Austrians are ethnic Germans they speak german
Austrians are not ethnic German, but speak German
of course they are
Why is not the German speaking population in Switzerland part of Germany. Why is not Republika Srpska un Bosnia part of Serbia. Why is not the Sweedish population in Finland part of Sweeden.
Napoleon was Corsican
Hitler was Austrian
Stalin was Georgian
Sea a pattern?
No what is it?
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 All these people who greatly expanded their countries' territory and power were from a part of the empire/dictatorship which was forcibly incorporated.
@@tahamuhammad1814Hitler was German and so was Austria. The whole Austria isn’t German thing is a relatively modern idea set in place after WW2 when the two were forcibly split up and the government set about creating a distinctly “we aren’t Germans” identity (made easier when the two were banned from reuniting). Before that Austrians were fully down with being Germans (although Austria wanted to be in charge)) and many even wanted to join the OG German empire. Hell Austrians even cheered as the nazis marched in to annex them.
Why wasn't Austria split in two like Germany with an "austrian GDR" if you will?
they say it is because our politicians were able to drink more than Nikta Crustchov. Not sure if that is entirely true. The politicians in question were in Concentrtion camps during teh Nazi aera, BTW.
A conversation between two of my friends some time ago:
"Austria is the better Germany."
"Nah, more like a Demo-Version."
Austria is just hardcore Bavaria and that is ment in the most insulting way possible. Greetings from the Elbe ✌
@@derdude6214 It's not everywhere like in Bavaria. Even the dialect is non bavarian in some places. I for example have an alemannic dialect. So start insulting when you know your shit.
@@europeancuisine4897 Well at least you got the german tradition of overcomplicating jokes. Guess Austria and Germany have that in common.
Schönes Wochenende Atze
@@derdude6214 Didn't sound like a joke. Even if it's sarcasm, you're not very good at it.
@@europeancuisine4897 "Austria is just hardcore Bavaria" is something that you take serious? You must be really fun at parties großer Gott.
I've this understand that the Austrians wanted to unite with a german republic, not with the third reich. So is it true force wouldn't have been needed in the refrefendum if Germany was a republic in 1938?
Edit: I mean they definitely wanted to do that in 1919 so how much would have changed in under 20 years?
@Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation🇩🇪 yes but I feal like that is mainly because of the war's legacy, extensive propaganda that Austrians aren't germans and allied restrctions
The Holy Roman Empire was not a "Germany 1.0" and its people were not germans. It existed the consept of a "united german speaking nation" but that did not happen until the 19th century. Per definition, the HRE was not even an Empire and had more in common with todays EU than a united Nation. People in the HRE were even fighting more each other than against someone else. People in the HRE were swabians, bohemians etc. but not german. Officially, Germany and german as ethnicity and culture only exist since the unification in the 19th century and even today it does not exist "that one" german ethnicity and culture. A german from north Germany is pretty different from one of south Germany. But it is defined as "german" since the 19th century so they are both germans today.
I should point out that one of the conditions for the Soviet Union allowing all the occupation zones in Austria to be united was that the reunited Austria had to declare permanent neutrality during the Cold War.
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Wal ma gsogt hom, dass ma des ned wü'
@@trago034 war müde
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@@Astoswoida Oststeiermark
The military occupation of Austria wasn’t done to compel a favorable outcome, Austria overwhelmingly wanted to join Germany.
In 1938, Austria wasn't a democracy anymore. It already was a fascist regime under the rule of dictator Kurt Schuschnigg. Thus, the Anschluss was just the replacement of Austrian fascism by German fascism.
@@Ch-xk5tv the difference is, Schuschnigg was an unpopular autocrat, while Hitler and the NSDAP were popular within Germany and in Austria. Most saw it as a liberation. The nee Austrian government created by the occupation forces tried to retcon this after the war by claiming Austria was invaded against their will, which is a huge pile of BS.
@@Ras_al_Gore That's true
@@Ch-xk5tv no it is not
@@Ras_al_Gore you are wrong - Hitler invaded, because Schuschniggs Referendum would have had a clear majority pro Austria
"Why isn't Austria part of Germany?" Well we were... but it didn't end very well
5:07 perfect Germany
The one and only🥲 germany where robbed
Thanks
Ich bin Österreicher. Mich wundert es, dass Leute die keine Ahnung haben mich als Deutschen bezeichnen.
Genausogut könnte man sagen, dass die Briten Amerikaner sind. Was für ein Blödsinn.
Ich hab einmal als Austauschschüler in Spanien gelebt. Du willst gar nicht wissen, wie oft die mein Land als "Deutschland" bezeichnet ham.
@@Ch-xk5tv Auch in Spanien? Das überrascht mich..
@@Ch-xk5tv östrereich ist halt klein bayern
@@erwinmuller4853 "Deutschland" haben die natürlich nicht gesagt sonder "Alemania". Das ist halt das problem, wenn man den Menschen im Ausland erklärt, dass kein "Österreichisch" existiert, sondern dass man in Österreich Deutsch spricht (damit meine ich auch die regionalen Dialekte in Österreich)
@@gamerdrache6076 es ist schon komisch, dass das was als "typisch" deutsch bezeichnet wird (Oktoberfest, Alpen, Lederhosen) eher auf Österreich (durch die stark bayrisch geprägte Kultur) zutrifft als auf Norddeutschland. Mit Norddeutschland meine ich als Österreicher eigentlich alles, was nicht Bayern ist. Also ob jetzt jemand aus Duisburg, Hamburg oder Berlin kommt macht bei uns keinen Unterschied
we needed a place which people confuse with australia
I, for one, don't want to be part of germany, secondly last time we were, it was not very popular for other people due to the guy being in charge having a slight führer complex. Also it looks a bit too bordergory to me, yes, easthetic is a valid reason for staying independent
the Austrians welcomed the SS with open arms lmao
@@viveka2994 i know they did, we do learn that in history. i mean with slight retrospective (talking early 1940s POV while he was already at war) he was not very popular in terms of people abroad - and some individuals inside the state.
Also what else could you do in that case? You can't just say no to the Anschluss - it's too late for that from the moment they start planning it. And if there's a certain amount of loud people voicing support - it doesn't need even close to a majority - it makes opponents voice their opinion less for fear of being shunned / prosecuted by the law.
so was the holy roman empire germany or austria or both?
The HRE was the HRE, it included mostly Germans, but also Italians, Czechs and what would later become some of the French.
The HRE was a multiethnic empire, and the throne was elective. At some point both Henry VIII king of England and Francis I king of France ran for position of emperor. And in the high middle ages there have been 2 emperors from Italy and one from France. And the original HRE also owned the entirety of France and the entirety of Italy.
Later they changed the name to "Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation", so in a way it was "germany".
It was German.
I dont feel its right to describe it as German Empire.
multicultural would describe it.
It was german, Czech, French, Polish, Hungarian, Italian,....
It included sizeable parts of all those cultures durring its lifetime with not only Germanic Emperors.
Even Bohemia was on the brink of absolutely dominating the HRE once.
0:30 Said this, why isnt Germany Part of Austria would be the more logical question 🤨
Austria was not German it was Holy Roman😌
Love vid...TY