I've got over 8,000 rounds through my Sig P320 with a Holosun EPS Carry MRS Green. The only advice I have is to use Vibra Tite or frequently check that your battery door hasn't become loose. I also have about 2,000 rounds through the same optic on a Sig P365X. It is my absolutely FAVORITE optic! I've got 4 so far and will be adding more soon. BTW, I only recommend the GREEN MRS Version. Because the Green Emitter is more energy efficient, which enabled Holosun to give us more Control over it. In AUTO Mode you still have Manual Control over what I'll call the "Minimum Brightness Setting". So you can manually adjust the reticle to be as Bright or Dim as you want it, while remaining in AUTO Mode, meaning the optic will Automatically Brighten when exposed to a brighter environment. And another thing you didn't mention is that there are Shorter SCREWS available (including from Holosun upon request) that will eliminate the need for that adapter plate. And that way, your Stock Sights will still be useable with the EPS installed.
You don't need the OEM adapter plate. Mounts just fine. Use M3 0.5X10mm screws, which Holosun will send when you call them. That will allow you to use the irons.
On older 365 XL’s that remove rear iron sights w plate, having the mount plate installed w Holosun skinny screws is the way to go, sets the red/green dot right on top of front iron….fyi. Where is dot buried in front sight without plate…again this is for older Sig XL’s w irons removed on rear plate. On newer XL’s I would remove plate.🎉
The EPS MRS is hands down the best pistol red dot I have ever owned. They are not cheap, but they are totally worth it. When I bought mine it cost just as much as the glock I mounted it on lol
Great video and finally somebody doing a review with the macro non-comp I know they got the Tech Ops now but they got a x macro non-comp version they made after the comp version and it's like you can't find nobody doing no reviews on them it's always the comp version and the only difference between the non-comp in the tech Ops is the Magwell but great video thinking about putting this on my macro
Thanks for the review . I have the P365 optics ready and my EPS carry 6 MOA was a direct mount without any adaptor plates and the factory irons ( the best factory sights available imho) co witness perfectly. I’m very happy with the Holosun and my Sig. I also have the 509T mounted on my Walther PDP and that did require a plate and finding sights high enough to co witness was a pain but love the optic , closed emitter is the way to go imho , cheers
Do you have the version where the rear iron sights are removed when mounting an optic? Or do you have the version where the rear irons are still on the side?
@Hamchuck112 nah the screws that came with the optic were just too tall, I’ve heard that Holosun has began including the correct length screws for the XMacro, if you have one and it doesn’t have the right screws you can reach out to Holosun and they’ll send them to you.
@ShinaniGunz I noted in the video when you mentioned you'd like to have a 20 MOA circle only option on the EPS. That would be TERRIFIC. The one reticle I wish we could also get in an EPS is the Primary Arms ACSS Vulcan. I've been running the 507C with it on my Echelon, Staccato C2, and CS for a few months now. Something about having a Chevron in the window that's got a 1 MOA point at the top and a 10 MOA base circled by that huge 250 MOA outer ring that easily guides you back to center if you lose the Chevron in the window. It really takes things to a whole other level for me. I'd sure love for Holosun to hook up with the guys at Primary and give us an EPS option with it (in green of course). As a novice shooter it's the only reticle that lets me get fairly consistent hits inside the 7 ring at 75'. Would love to have this or that 20 MOA circle only option that you mentioned. ✌️
Great review! I'm looking at the EPS Carry MRS (possibly the PA version with ACSS), and the 507k for my XMacro, which has become my new EDC. Love how low it sits being able to be directly mounted vs having to deal with mounting plates.
I have astigmatism and green is NOT easier to see. It all depends on the individual. The way you test this is to look at traffic lights at night from our far. Whichever blooms the most to you is the reflex sight color you should avoid. For me, the cooler the color, the worse the bloom.
It can vary from person to person, for me green is a lot better. I’ve got a lot of responses saying red is better and green is better, the best thing you can do is try to look at them before you buy one.
When it comes to red verses green dots I’m very fortunate. I can see both without any issues. I do prefer the green though because it’s more pleasing to my eyes. Again, this is what works best for me.
10:10 Hi There, enjoying the videos. You are definitely a “Real Shooter” as our group would say. I’m a member of a group of highly skilled shooters. So I’m a bit confused about my Holosun EPS Carry MRS Green. I have Failsafe. I only have one short shooting session as I mounted it today. When mounted on my Sig P365XL I didn’t notice the screws being too long? The sight came with three sets of screws. Two of the sets were clearly to large a diameter. I used the proper threaded screws which were equipped with Blue Locktite. I removed the Swampfox Sentinel and mounted the Holosun with screws provided and had no issues. After reading this and another post I’m reading mounting screws provided are too long for P365XL and I need to call Holosun for the correct (Shorter) screws. Has Holosun possibly corrected this or am I running a loose optic? I removed the slide and tried to more the optic, it seemed solid and tight. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
It’s possible they’ve started to include the correct screws for mounting to the P365, which would make life easier for those with one lol. If that’s the case good on Holosun for recognizing the need and making that change! As long as the optic is mounted tight to the pistol I think you’re good to go. If they were too long you’d definitely notice it moving around.
At the time this was filmed Holosun was not including the screws of the correct length, the provided screws were a bit too long. I believe they’re now shipping the optic with shorter screws but if you don’t have the shorter screws to direct mount you can reach out to them and they’ll send you proper ones.
You can as long as it’s direct mounted with the proper screws, I did not have the correct screws for mine but it seems Holosun is sending the correct screws with the EPS Carry for the XMacro now.
Thx for pointing out issues with those with astigmatism. More common than you think. Red dots are just out of the question for my astigmatism since all I see is the comet ☄️ or starburst at even the lowest settings and smallest dot size. Green, like you said, especially with the MRS really seems to mitigate it. Went with the green EPS carry and haven’t regretted it. Btw, I had to call Holosun to get the correct size screws to direct mount the EPS carry to my X Macro. Don’t know why they don’t include them 🤦 since several sets are included.
I picked up the the RMR HD and for being a red dot it’s the most crisp red dot I’ve ever had, I don’t know what they did with it but Trijicon nailed it. Green is my go to because of my astigmatism and I think a lot of people aren’t aware of the differences and how it works with different sight conditions. I’m glad it works for you! Sucks you had to reach out to get the appropriate screws though.
It works fine, I’ve got somewhere in the neighborhood of 1k rounds through it like it is and I’ve never lost zero or had any issues. I’m using the plate because the screws provided by Holosun were too long however it seems they are shipping the correct height screws with the optic for a direct mount without worrying about the plate. If you can direct mount it definitely do it, you should be able to cowitness with the irons that way.
Back straps are from F-Dez Werx and they’re a great addition to your XMacro without breaking the bank. I did a review of em! F-Dez Werx X Macro Back Strap Review ruclips.net/video/5FZfIk1PjSo/видео.html
I use 2 EPS carry. I milled the footprint directly to the slide the rear notch of the optic co-witnesses with the original frontsight. 1. Sig P 290 RS, micro 9mm single stack 6+1 & 8 & 15 in the hot sommer. Good for a 100 yard! 2. CZ P10 S. I would never carry a dot with an open emitter. A wipe with the T shirt and I'm done. I had never a prob finding the dot. I use dot and circle. One time I did. The trainer was pushing me from behind forward and I had to do a mag dump on a moving target. I didn't fire one round to the surprise of the trainer. I saw NO dot. He said: next time you at least fire. You would hit even without sights. And if not it would be at least suppressive fire. It was a deap lesson. But I trained then to find the dot under any crazy situation in the small window. Thanks for your content from South America
I believe before long open emitters are going to be a thing of the past, there’s so many benefits with enclosed emitters and more companies are definitely going to jump on the bandwagon, especially after Trijicon debuting the RCR. I appreciate you stopping by and sharing your thoughts!
I’ve used both red and green with yellow tinted shooting glasses and they both seem very bright and clear. My thoughts on it come down to personal preference.
If you have the available cash, yes I would. If your budget is tight the 407k is a great choice still. For durability and keeping debris or rain out of your optic it’s worth the money (I was shooting the 507 Comp over the weekend which is an open emitter and it rained while I was out and it did impact my reticle and distorted my dot). If you’re going to keep it for a while it’s a solid investment and having the 407k footprint you can put it on a lot of other guns if your EDC changes.
Thanks! Not gonna lie I like the look of the 407k vs the “box” look of this. But function over form I suppose 😂. Closed emitter does make more sense for edc I
407k is great, and looks better IMO. I think I am now officially spoiled by the closed emitter. No lint/dust on my glass is very nice, and I feel much more comfortable with this as my carry.
Can this be mounted to the X Macro without the adapter plate with different screws to tighten it. I would like to be able to see a little of the iron sights.
It can, you just have to contact Holosun and request the necessary screws, they’ll send you shorter ones that will allow direct mount without the plate.
Was considering the new sig romeo x compact due to the low profile and facotry iron seight co withness but now the green multiritcle inclosed housing for my sig p938 sounds like the best option for my edc. Porbly will put the sig romeo x on my sig p229 elite
The only thing that disappoints me about the Romeo X is they made it with all that housing and still it’s an open emitter. Seems like a nice optic though, haven’t got my hands on one yet.
Im new to optics on a pistol. Having a really hard time deciding between the EPS MRS and the RPS Carry 6. I Guess as a newb it seems the Mrs is a safer buy because of the choices in cycling through the 2 vs 32 circle ⭕️ etc
Regardless of which one you go with it’ll take time to get used to, I think the MRS is a great way to get used to finding your dot and aligning your sights correctly if you’ve never used a red dot before. The 32 MOA circle only is great on the range, the bigger size makes it easier to see and make corrections under live fire and then you can move to smaller dot only when you’re feeling more confident or want to try more precise shots. Whatever you train with you’ll be proficient with.
You’d be better off having the correct screws to direct mount it to the slide than finding taller sights. I’ve been told Holosun is including the correct screws so you shouldn’t need the adapter plate. In that case your stock sights will cowitness just fine.
I’d really love to know how you managed to shot 1000 rounds “through the optic.” I would definitely be interested in how this works as I will not have to purchase a gun to go with the optic. Please let me know when you get the chance! Thank you!
Sort of, it does make it easier to keep the glass clean but it works to keep out foreign objects like dirt or rain. I’ve used open emitters like the 507c/k in the rain and I’ve had the rain interfere with my reticle displaying properly so that’s going to be the biggest advantage but it goes hand in hand with making it easy to keep clean.
3:20ish mark “If I could get a 20 Moa circle without the hashes, I’d never use anything else” idk what it was about the way you said this, but I was convinced and curious at same time…..lol
That’s a good question. I know the solar panel does require a certain amount of light so indoor dry fire makes sense as to why it wouldn’t come back on. I did test it and it ran outside with no battery at all. That being said I’ve probably got about another 1,000 rounds through this optic and it’s never happened since.
I have noticed a glitch on my EPS Carry. If you are close to a fluorescent tube light fixture, the reticle dims rather than brightening. I suspect that it may have something to due with this kind of light source which flashes at 120 times a second. You have to be within ten feet of the light or so......
Yeah I noticed that as well. I don't use the auto brightness setting though, I don't trust it. I had my buddy point his flashlight at me and the reticle did not brighten up. I wish they would put a sensor on the front of the optic so that it would react to something like that.
Since i posted this, i found that the problem was a weak battery. When i changed it out, the EPS worked perfectly.....Brightens when the ambient light is bright and dims when the outside light is weak....I love it!
I’ve got a couple thousand rounds through this optic. Love it for the most part, only problem is occasionally I will lose the dot momentarily if my grip deteriorates too much. It is not as forgiving as my SRO.
I debated red vs green for a while, green just happens to sometimes be a bit blurry compared to red and i can focus my eyes better on red, it’s completely personal however
The best part is with the current technology trends you have the ability to find what works best for you both in optic style and reticle color! Red or green just make sure you’re hitting the range!
Unfortunately, I'd have to stack 2 plates since the CZ I'm getting doesn't come with a footprint. It uses the adapter plates and no one is making a 507k plate yet.
It would with the correct EPS/EPS Carry/507k adapter plate. Though for a firearm that size the full size EPS might interest you more. I did a review on that too 👇🏼 Holosun EPS Green Dot | Review ruclips.net/video/NUFtigDeREo/видео.html
@@ShinaniGunzso the EPS carry is more for 43x size or a compact 509 I have a Walther PDP Pro Compact SD, was thinking of putting EPS Carry on it but that PDP Pro Compact is as big as my fullsize 509 So the EPS is better for Midsize to fullsize and the EPS carry is more for a compact to micro size.
@2aisabsoluteTim I wouldn’t label it as “made for” but if you want a carry package that is as small as it can be the EPS Carry may make concealability easier. But if you have a standard sized pistol it may be worth taking advantage of the bigger optic. That being said I’m about to throw my EPS Carry on a Glock 19 clone build when my slide comes in and I’m very comfortable with that choice.
@@ShinaniGunz thanks for quick response and will you make a video about it once it gets finished. The Glock 19 is around the same size as my 509 and like I said 🤣 Walthers Compact is not so compact being close to the size of my Fullsize 509 But that gun is a beast and I've put a DPM Captured Guide Rod on it and a Lok grip brass backstrap with the Floyd cut
I think pistol lights do have specific use depending on your mission such as security or law enforcement or maybe a dedicated home defense firearm. For daily concealed carry I would rather have a flash light in my pocket so I can identify anything that might be a non threat all the way up to a deadly threat.
It’s an EPS with a fancy laser engraving. They probably should have put the solar panel on there but you’re really not losing much. In my opinion it’s just a gimmick to get more sales, there’s nothing functionally different about it.
In the evening/night would be the best use for it as you’re moving from bright rooms to darker rooms or waking up in the middle of the night but there is definitely drawbacks to relying on it as your primary mode.
This is all personal opinion of course, I find the EPS Carry easier to see through, it may be the boxy design but I like it better than the window on the 507k. The enclosed reticle, as you noted, is the biggest benefit, keeping your emitter and windows clean of debris. The EPS Carry also has better waterproofing (if it ever comes into play) and it can withstand different temperatures better (which can be important say if you’re leaving it in your car because GFZ). But just based on feel and experience using it at the range I’d go EPS Carry every time.
Everyone should take into consideration their own vision issues and find what works best for them. That being said the wavelength of green is more accessible to eyes with refractive eye conditions such as astigmatism.
. I believe it’s the RMSc footprint, which the 507k can fit but there is an adapter plate in the box to accommodate the RMSc footprint if you have four of those little stabilizing posts instead of two.
I've got over 8,000 rounds through my Sig P320 with a Holosun EPS Carry MRS Green. The only advice I have is to use Vibra Tite or frequently check that your battery door hasn't become loose. I also have about 2,000 rounds through the same optic on a Sig P365X. It is my absolutely FAVORITE optic! I've got 4 so far and will be adding more soon.
BTW, I only recommend the GREEN MRS Version. Because the Green Emitter is more energy efficient, which enabled Holosun to give us more Control over it. In AUTO Mode you still have Manual Control over what I'll call the "Minimum Brightness Setting". So you can manually adjust the reticle to be as Bright or Dim as you want it, while remaining in AUTO Mode, meaning the optic will Automatically Brighten when exposed to a brighter environment.
And another thing you didn't mention is that there are Shorter SCREWS available (including from Holosun upon request) that will eliminate the need for that adapter plate. And that way, your Stock Sights will still be useable with the EPS installed.
I have the carry and love it on my P365X, it is a great product and ideal for the micro compacts.
I think it’s hard to beat when compared against the current offerings on the market and it’s not too big to easily conceal!
You don't need the OEM adapter plate. Mounts just fine. Use M3 0.5X10mm screws, which Holosun will send when you call them. That will allow you to use the irons.
These are facts, it baffles me why they wouldn’t just include them in the box though
On older 365 XL’s that remove rear iron sights w plate, having the mount plate installed w Holosun skinny screws is the way to go, sets the red/green dot right on top of front iron….fyi. Where is dot buried in front sight without plate…again this is for older Sig XL’s w irons removed on rear plate. On newer XL’s I would remove plate.🎉
The macro changed to a standard rail and standard Holosun K footprint. I have the 507K on mine.
I'm about to order one for my Xmacro , the optic screws don't come in the box?
@goodintentions8714 I believe they ship with the correct screws now
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Very helpful. Thanks for the straightforward and pertinent content. Keep it up!
I greatly appreciate your kind words! Thanks for stopping by and taking a look!
The EPS MRS is hands down the best pistol red dot I have ever owned. They are not cheap, but they are totally worth it. When I bought mine it cost just as much as the glock I mounted it on lol
I’ve got probably in the range of 7,000 rounds between the full size EPS and the EPS carry and they’ve held up great. Definitely worth the investment!
Great video and finally somebody doing a review with the macro non-comp I know they got the Tech Ops now but they got a x macro non-comp version they made after the comp version and it's like you can't find nobody doing no reviews on them it's always the comp version and the only difference between the non-comp in the tech Ops is the Magwell but great video thinking about putting this on my macro
I have plans for a review on the pistol after the new year so stay tuned for that. I appreciate you checking out the video!
Has nothing to do with the optic being reviewed
Thanks for the review . I have the P365 optics ready and my EPS carry 6 MOA was a direct mount without any adaptor plates and the factory irons ( the best factory sights available imho) co witness perfectly. I’m very happy with the Holosun and my Sig. I also have the 509T mounted on my Walther PDP and that did require a plate and finding sights high enough to co witness was a pain but love the optic , closed emitter is the way to go imho , cheers
It’ll definitely be hard to convince to go back to an open emitter, closed is the way 🙌🏼
Do you have the version where the rear iron sights are removed when mounting an optic? Or do you have the version where the rear irons are still on the side?
@sloanv2610 the irons do not come off, the optic cut is independent of the irons.
Did you have to get aftermarket screws to direct mount the EPS Carry to the P365?
@Hamchuck112 nah the screws that came with the optic were just too tall, I’ve heard that Holosun has began including the correct length screws for the XMacro, if you have one and it doesn’t have the right screws you can reach out to Holosun and they’ll send them to you.
Which grip are you using, 2 or 3? I have a 507k green on my 365 Macro. I much prefer green reticles. Another great review.
I’m using the #2. I’ll have a comprehensive review on all three in a couple weeks!
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@ShinaniGunz I noted in the video when you mentioned you'd like to have a 20 MOA circle only option on the EPS. That would be TERRIFIC. The one reticle I wish we could also get in an EPS is the Primary Arms ACSS Vulcan. I've been running the 507C with it on my Echelon, Staccato C2, and CS for a few months now. Something about having a Chevron in the window that's got a 1 MOA point at the top and a 10 MOA base circled by that huge 250 MOA outer ring that easily guides you back to center if you lose the Chevron in the window. It really takes things to a whole other level for me. I'd sure love for Holosun to hook up with the guys at Primary and give us an EPS option with it (in green of course). As a novice shooter it's the only reticle that lets me get fairly consistent hits inside the 7 ring at 75'. Would love to have this or that 20 MOA circle only option that you mentioned. ✌️
@BullockInvestments an ACSS EPS/EPS Carry would be amazing! I’d snatch one up right away.
Great review! I'm looking at the EPS Carry MRS (possibly the PA version with ACSS), and the 507k for my XMacro, which has become my new EDC. Love how low it sits being able to be directly mounted vs having to deal with mounting plates.
If and when PA comes out with an EPS/EPS Carry with the ACSS reticle I won’t have anything else!
I have astigmatism and green is NOT easier to see. It all depends on the individual. The way you test this is to look at traffic lights at night from our far. Whichever blooms the most to you is the reflex sight color you should avoid. For me, the cooler the color, the worse the bloom.
It can vary from person to person, for me green is a lot better. I’ve got a lot of responses saying red is better and green is better, the best thing you can do is try to look at them before you buy one.
Genius!
Bro just blew my mind. Good to know. I’ll test tonight since I also suffer
When it comes to red verses green dots I’m very fortunate. I can see both without any issues. I do prefer the green though because it’s more pleasing to my eyes. Again, this is what works best for me.
I agree about green, my eyes like the color better than red. Astigmatism or no astigmatism there’s just something about it!
10:10 Hi There, enjoying the videos. You are definitely a “Real Shooter” as our group would say. I’m a member of a group of highly skilled shooters.
So I’m a bit confused about my Holosun EPS Carry MRS Green. I have Failsafe. I only have one short shooting session as I mounted it today. When mounted on my Sig P365XL I didn’t notice the screws being too long? The sight came with three sets of screws. Two of the sets were clearly to large a diameter. I used the proper threaded screws which were equipped with Blue Locktite. I removed the Swampfox Sentinel and mounted the Holosun with screws provided and had no issues. After reading this and another post I’m reading mounting screws provided are too long for P365XL and I need to call Holosun for the correct (Shorter) screws. Has Holosun possibly corrected this or am I running a loose optic? I removed the slide and tried to more the optic, it seemed solid and tight. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
It’s possible they’ve started to include the correct screws for mounting to the P365, which would make life easier for those with one lol. If that’s the case good on Holosun for recognizing the need and making that change! As long as the optic is mounted tight to the pistol I think you’re good to go. If they were too long you’d definitely notice it moving around.
Thanks - thorough and informative! May I ask why you did not direct-mount to your slide? Is it an issue with the provided screws?
At the time this was filmed Holosun was not including the screws of the correct length, the provided screws were a bit too long. I believe they’re now shipping the optic with shorter screws but if you don’t have the shorter screws to direct mount you can reach out to them and they’ll send you proper ones.
@@ShinaniGunz Ah! Thanks for the info.
Can you still use the stock sights on the xmacro with this rewith the EPS attached?
You can as long as it’s direct mounted with the proper screws, I did not have the correct screws for mine but it seems Holosun is sending the correct screws with the EPS Carry for the XMacro now.
Thx for pointing out issues with those with astigmatism. More common than you think. Red dots are just out of the question for my astigmatism since all I see is the comet ☄️ or starburst at even the lowest settings and smallest dot size. Green, like you said, especially with the MRS really seems to mitigate it.
Went with the green EPS carry and haven’t regretted it. Btw, I had to call Holosun to get the correct size screws to direct mount the EPS carry to my X Macro. Don’t know why they don’t include them 🤦 since several sets are included.
I picked up the the RMR HD and for being a red dot it’s the most crisp red dot I’ve ever had, I don’t know what they did with it but Trijicon nailed it. Green is my go to because of my astigmatism and I think a lot of people aren’t aware of the differences and how it works with different sight conditions. I’m glad it works for you! Sucks you had to reach out to get the appropriate screws though.
For the P365 is it working well with the optics plate? Or would you recommend removing the optics plate?
It works fine, I’ve got somewhere in the neighborhood of 1k rounds through it like it is and I’ve never lost zero or had any issues. I’m using the plate because the screws provided by Holosun were too long however it seems they are shipping the correct height screws with the optic for a direct mount without worrying about the plate. If you can direct mount it definitely do it, you should be able to cowitness with the irons that way.
Direct flush mount, for co witness
Great Review and I concur, on size and efficiency. It’s top 💪🏽
I appreciate you checking it out! If they come out with an ACSS reticle it’s game over.
Great video! Great review n coverage
I appreciate that! Thanks for checking it out 🙌🏼
Who makes the custom backstrap you have, and how do you like it?
Back straps are from F-Dez Werx and they’re a great addition to your XMacro without breaking the bank. I did a review of em!
F-Dez Werx X Macro Back Strap Review
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I use 2 EPS carry. I milled the footprint directly to the slide the rear notch of the optic co-witnesses with the original frontsight.
1. Sig P 290 RS, micro 9mm single stack 6+1 & 8 & 15 in the hot sommer. Good for a 100 yard!
2. CZ P10 S.
I would never carry a dot with an open emitter. A wipe with the T shirt and I'm done.
I had never a prob finding the dot. I use dot and circle.
One time I did. The trainer was pushing me from behind forward and I had to do a mag dump on a moving target. I didn't fire one round to the surprise of the trainer. I saw NO dot.
He said: next time you at least fire. You would hit even without sights. And if not it would be at least suppressive fire.
It was a deap lesson.
But I trained then to find the dot under any crazy situation in the small window.
Thanks for your content from South America
I believe before long open emitters are going to be a thing of the past, there’s so many benefits with enclosed emitters and more companies are definitely going to jump on the bandwagon, especially after Trijicon debuting the RCR. I appreciate you stopping by and sharing your thoughts!
Which color is best with yellow shooting glasses?
I’ve used both red and green with yellow tinted shooting glasses and they both seem very bright and clear. My thoughts on it come down to personal preference.
I've got Holosun on all my pistols. A 507C on my PSA Dagger and a 507K on my G 48. I plan on picking up an EPS Carry MSR for the G 43X when I buy it.
I’ve used a lot of Holosun optics too and I’ve never been disappointed by them. You’re gonna enjoy the EPS Carry!
Would you go for the 6 MOA eps carry over a similar 407k for a Glock 43x MOS? Been debating back and forth if it’s worth the extra $100
If you have the available cash, yes I would. If your budget is tight the 407k is a great choice still. For durability and keeping debris or rain out of your optic it’s worth the money (I was shooting the 507 Comp over the weekend which is an open emitter and it rained while I was out and it did impact my reticle and distorted my dot). If you’re going to keep it for a while it’s a solid investment and having the 407k footprint you can put it on a lot of other guns if your EDC changes.
Thanks! Not gonna lie I like the look of the 407k vs the “box” look of this. But function over form I suppose 😂. Closed emitter does make more sense for edc I
@grantarbaugh923 I’ve compared it to the 507k I have and when you look through it you really don’t notice the difference
407k is great, and looks better IMO. I think I am now officially spoiled by the closed emitter. No lint/dust on my glass is very nice, and I feel much more comfortable with this as my carry.
I have 3 and I love them… great video, Brudda.
I appreciate you, fam! I really like it and for being a box it doesn’t feel closed in they did a great job with it for sure. 🔥🙌🏼
Can this be mounted to the X Macro without the adapter plate with different screws to tighten it. I would like to be able to see a little of the iron sights.
It can, you just have to contact Holosun and request the necessary screws, they’ll send you shorter ones that will allow direct mount without the plate.
Yup, so long as you have short enough screws.
Was considering the new sig romeo x compact due to the low profile and facotry iron seight co withness but now the green multiritcle inclosed housing for my sig p938 sounds like the best option for my edc. Porbly will put the sig romeo x on my sig p229 elite
The only thing that disappoints me about the Romeo X is they made it with all that housing and still it’s an open emitter. Seems like a nice optic though, haven’t got my hands on one yet.
So yours hangs off the side p365 xmacro as well?
Slightly. I have the full size EPS on it now and it hangs off but it’s honestly not that bad.
@@ShinaniGunz yeah I just picked one up and it hangs off the side just a tad.
@frankmancina22 nice. Yeah it’s certainly not enough to bother me
Im new to optics on a pistol. Having a really hard time deciding between the EPS MRS and the RPS Carry 6. I Guess as a newb it seems the Mrs is a safer buy because of the choices in cycling through the 2 vs 32 circle ⭕️ etc
Regardless of which one you go with it’ll take time to get used to, I think the MRS is a great way to get used to finding your dot and aligning your sights correctly if you’ve never used a red dot before. The 32 MOA circle only is great on the range, the bigger size makes it easier to see and make corrections under live fire and then you can move to smaller dot only when you’re feeling more confident or want to try more precise shots. Whatever you train with you’ll be proficient with.
What are the taller sights called.Where can I get them and how do I install them.Is this a better option than eliminating the adapter plate
You’d be better off having the correct screws to direct mount it to the slide than finding taller sights. I’ve been told Holosun is including the correct screws so you shouldn’t need the adapter plate. In that case your stock sights will cowitness just fine.
So you can select between the 3 combos of reticle on the MRS? That wasn't clear on the website.
Yes! You can cycle through the different options.
I’d really love to know how you managed to shot 1000 rounds “through the optic.” I would definitely be interested in how this works as I will not have to purchase a gun to go with the optic.
Please let me know when you get the chance!
Thank you!
😂
You know exactly what it means you just hope other people are gonna think this comment is funny.
Would you say the main advantage of the EPS Carry over the 507k is ability to keep optic clean ?
Sort of, it does make it easier to keep the glass clean but it works to keep out foreign objects like dirt or rain. I’ve used open emitters like the 507c/k in the rain and I’ve had the rain interfere with my reticle displaying properly so that’s going to be the biggest advantage but it goes hand in hand with making it easy to keep clean.
@@ShinaniGunz Thanks , I was thinking about getting a 507k but the EPS sounds like a better option being I’m in the very dusty desert Southwest .
@propblast82nd you definitely appreciate the EPS more in that case.
3:20ish mark “If I could get a 20 Moa circle without the hashes, I’d never use anything else” idk what it was about the way you said this, but I was convinced and curious at same time…..lol
It’d make for a great EDC dot where rapid sight acquisition can be the difference between winning and losing.
When the screw had backed out during live and dry fire the dot kept going off, why didn’t the solar panel keep it on?
That’s a good question. I know the solar panel does require a certain amount of light so indoor dry fire makes sense as to why it wouldn’t come back on. I did test it and it ran outside with no battery at all. That being said I’ve probably got about another 1,000 rounds through this optic and it’s never happened since.
Thanks! I’m wanting to purchase one. Just trying to get all the information I can.
Any time!
That's the version of the P365 to have: XL slide w/ macro grip.
Just bought the green will be here two days. Got it for my sig p938
Nice! You’re really going to enjoy it.
It fits your P938 well? Did you need an adapter plate?
@richardj3715 yes needed a plate due to slide not milled. But works great. Got a mount for sig for all thier p series and works great
How does the adapter plate attach with no mounting holes.
@richardj3715 the screw posts on the slide go through two holes in the plate, screws for the optic secure everything in place.
Did the EPS mount easily on the 365?
It did yeah, I believe Holosun is now shipping the proper length screws for the XMacro so it should mount right to your XMacro.
I have noticed a glitch on my EPS Carry. If you are close to a fluorescent tube light fixture, the reticle dims rather than brightening. I suspect that it may have something to due with this kind of light source which flashes at 120 times a second.
You have to be within ten feet of the light or so......
That’s interesting, it’s not something I thought to try out 🤔
Yeah I noticed that as well. I don't use the auto brightness setting though, I don't trust it. I had my buddy point his flashlight at me and the reticle did not brighten up. I wish they would put a sensor on the front of the optic so that it would react to something like that.
Iron sights are king 👑
Since i posted this, i found that the problem was a weak battery. When i changed it out, the EPS worked perfectly.....Brightens when the ambient light is bright and dims when the outside light is weak....I love it!
@user-cr5yy4te3i that’s a nice easy fix!
I’ve got a couple thousand rounds through this optic. Love it for the most part, only problem is occasionally I will lose the dot momentarily if my grip deteriorates too much. It is not as forgiving as my SRO.
This is a fact! It’s a really small window and you’ll definitely know if your presentation was a bit off.
You people and shooting rounds “through the optic.” 😂
I debated red vs green for a while, green just happens to sometimes be a bit blurry compared to red and i can focus my eyes better on red, it’s completely personal however
The best part is with the current technology trends you have the ability to find what works best for you both in optic style and reticle color! Red or green just make sure you’re hitting the range!
Apparently if you have a p365 x or xl to mount it without plate you have to call Holosun to send you the shorter screws.
They’d definitely be helpful if you want to cowitness with the factory irons.
Unfortunately, I'd have to stack 2 plates since the CZ I'm getting doesn't come with a footprint. It uses the adapter plates and no one is making a 507k plate yet.
That’s a bummer! Which CZ do you have coming?
Shadow 2 compact. I've decided to finally get an SA/DA pistol.
@frankopanklaric oh man that’s a good one to go with!
Im very happy with my 6 MOA version
I have the 6 MOA with the full size EPS and it’s a great option I really like it!
I have a 407k and the EPS in 6 moa. The eps dot is way smaller. It looks like 3moa
I said the same thing! Went with 6MOA on my EPS carry. I say it “tracks more like a 3MOA”
Will this fit on a full size Glock 21 45 ACP? Thanks in advance 😊
It would with the correct EPS/EPS Carry/507k adapter plate. Though for a firearm that size the full size EPS might interest you more.
I did a review on that too 👇🏼
Holosun EPS Green Dot | Review
ruclips.net/video/NUFtigDeREo/видео.html
@@ShinaniGunzso the EPS carry is more for 43x size or a compact 509
I have a Walther PDP Pro Compact SD, was thinking of putting EPS Carry on it but that PDP Pro Compact is as big as my fullsize 509
So the EPS is better for Midsize to fullsize and the EPS carry is more for a compact to micro size.
@2aisabsoluteTim I wouldn’t label it as “made for” but if you want a carry package that is as small as it can be the EPS Carry may make concealability easier. But if you have a standard sized pistol it may be worth taking advantage of the bigger optic. That being said I’m about to throw my EPS Carry on a Glock 19 clone build when my slide comes in and I’m very comfortable with that choice.
@@ShinaniGunz thanks for quick response and will you make a video about it once it gets finished.
The Glock 19 is around the same size as my 509 and like I said 🤣 Walthers Compact is not so compact being close to the size of my Fullsize 509
But that gun is a beast and I've put a DPM Captured Guide Rod on it and a Lok grip brass backstrap with the Floyd cut
I got you
Id love to heat your thoughts on carrying either a pistol light
I think pistol lights do have specific use depending on your mission such as security or law enforcement or maybe a dedicated home defense firearm. For daily concealed carry I would rather have a flash light in my pocket so I can identify anything that might be a non threat all the way up to a deadly threat.
I really wish other companies would make green dot optics
I wish Trijicon would jump on the green bandwagon and on more than their Dual Illumination dots.
I opted for green 6 MOA dot only
How are you liking it?
Curious how you like it as well debating which size and color to go with too
So did i understand right I need to put plate on for 365xl
I believe the optic is being shipped with the correct screws now but you can contact Holosun to get the correct screws if not.
@@ShinaniGunz do I need to put plate on for it
For the XL I believe you do need it unless they updated the model recently. The XMacro you should not need it to my knowledge.
@@ShinaniGunz thank you
I use the 6 moa green dot
6 MOA is probably my favorite dot size. 🙌🏼🔥
Does lock out mode kill shake awake ?
It does not, I use the lock out on mine and my shake awake still works.
Whats up with the eps carry mrs ronin?? It doesnt have the solar panel but no reviews
It’s an EPS with a fancy laser engraving. They probably should have put the solar panel on there but you’re really not losing much. In my opinion it’s just a gimmick to get more sales, there’s nothing functionally different about it.
Yes
Auto brightness sounds like night mode
In the evening/night would be the best use for it as you’re moving from bright rooms to darker rooms or waking up in the middle of the night but there is definitely drawbacks to relying on it as your primary mode.
the EPS looks comically huge and boxy. I don't think i could look at it, it would drive me crazy. I think i'm just going for the 407k
The EPS Carry is the same size as the 407k. The EPS is the same size as the 507c. For comparison.
Wait till you see the acro!
Only 5in/lbs?
You’re the first one to catch that and even I missed it. It should be 15 in/lbs. looking back at my notes I had it in there as 5 and not 15
@ShinaniGunz I was thinking it would be 15. 10 at the least but thanks for the reply and happy holidays to you and yours!
@rywar9125 I appreciate you pointing it out! I hope you have a great holiday with your friends and family as well!
Pro: closed emitter
Cons: shape looks strange compared to 507k and it’s .050” wider than 507k.
I’ve got a lot of time behind both, it’s definitely better than the 507k
In what way? I can’t tell a difference
This is all personal opinion of course, I find the EPS Carry easier to see through, it may be the boxy design but I like it better than the window on the 507k. The enclosed reticle, as you noted, is the biggest benefit, keeping your emitter and windows clean of debris. The EPS Carry also has better waterproofing (if it ever comes into play) and it can withstand different temperatures better (which can be important say if you’re leaving it in your car because GFZ). But just based on feel and experience using it at the range I’d go EPS Carry every time.
Should be 15 inch lbs for the screws, not 5 lbs👍
You are correct, someone else pointed that out as well, I’m not sure how I messed that up 😂
Got a 507k green for sale! Lol
Why the white lettering looks cheap. Looks better without.
Engraved would be cooler.
Green is not clearer for all stigmatism. For some people it makes no difference. While for others Red may distort less.
Everyone should take into consideration their own vision issues and find what works best for them. That being said the wavelength of green is more accessible to eyes with refractive eye conditions such as astigmatism.
If you have astigmatism, green will make it much worse not better..
My research and personal experiences have found a different conclusion. Your personal experience may differ though.
I have astigmatism, green is way better. My red dpp is tough. My green eps carry is way nicer
Is the EPS Carry come with a plate adapter for the Shield Plus?
. I believe it’s the RMSc footprint, which the 507k can fit but there is an adapter plate in the box to accommodate the RMSc footprint if you have four of those little stabilizing posts instead of two.
Will the adapter plate fit the Shield Plus?
@tonyanderson2269 yes, it’s designed for that style footprint.